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    Everything’s Relative with Eve Sturges

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    With heart and humor, Eve Sturges explores the modern landscape of DNA testing after a single phone call turns her world upside down. By talking with others who have had “DNA discoveries,” Eve hopes to change the conversation around secrets, shame, family, and identity.

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    Freya Lyon: A Rare Dual Citizen in the Donor Conception Community Jul 07, 2023
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    Freya Lyon finds herself a rare bird: she is a Donor Conceived Person who has also used Donor Conception to create her own family. She is finding her voice as a "dual citizen," and offers insight from her own experiences through various channels in the community.

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    Ivan: A Birth Certificate Father's Story Jun 30, 2023
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    Ivan is a longtime listener of ERWES, and is ready to tell his side of the story as a BCF (birth-certificate father) to an NPE.

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    Lezlee Liljenberg: If You Only Knew Jun 22, 2023
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    Lezlee Liljenberg is a firecracker storyteller in Dallas Texas who started investigating when her dad kept saying "If you only knew what your mother has done." She's blogged about her journey at iamlezlee.com

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    Ancestors of Influence: Cairelle Crow, author of The Magic In Your Genes Jun 16, 2023
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    Genealogist Cairelle Crow is the first person Eve has ever talked to who offered an alternative to the strictly scientific way of looking at our family tree. The Magic In Your Genes, Your Personal Path to Ancestor Work (Bringing Together the Science of DNA with the Timeless Power of Ritual and Spellcraft) is available now on Amazon.

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    21 Siblings and Counting: Kiara Rae Schuh, author of Chosen Family; A Donor Conceived Woman's Journey to Redefining Family Jun 09, 2023
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    Kiara Rae Schuh talks with Eve about about her DNA Discovery journey, learning that not everyone feels the same way about being donor conceived, and navigating a plethora of new relationship dynamics. For more information, visit https://www.kiararaeschuh.com , and to buy her book at Amazon, link here.

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    David Berry, Fertility Fraud, and Dr. Morris Wortman of Rochester New York: You Are Definitely The Father Jun 02, 2023
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    Blogger and advocate David Berry talks about his DNA Discovery as a Donor Conceived Person, and the way he was thrust into the world of Fertility Fraud. Like Eve Wiley, David Berry is hoping for the passage of HR 451, a federal law designed to protect families from Fertility Fraud.

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    The Double Life of an Adoptee: Emma Stevens, author of "The Gathering Place," and "The Fire Is Coming." May 26, 2023
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    Emma Stevens discusses her identity as an adoptee, and her journey to find her relatives and the truth. To buy The Gathering Place, about Emma's adoption journey, follow this link here.

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    Holy Buckets! Fred Nicora, author of Forbidden Roots: A Memoir of Late-Discovery Adoption May 12, 2023
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    Fred Nicora was just minding his own business at a family BBQ one minute, and experiencing the annihilation of his identity the next minute. His DNA discovery is what we call "LDA," Late-Discovery Adoption. His journey is one that many in the community of Misattributed Parentage will relate to. Go to frednicora.com to order Fred's book, Forbidden Roots: A Memoir of Late-Discovery Adoption.

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    Jersey Girl: Annette Becklund, author of Ancestry Discoveries, What Happens Under The Sheets Doesn't Stay There May 05, 2023
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    Annette Becklund and Eve explore her NPE DNA Discovery, how she came to write a book, and how it's affected her role as a licensed therapist. Buy Anette's Book here.

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    Tonnocus McClain is still navigating the awkward and difficult world of meeting new family after his DNA test results confirmed what he already suspected: Kenny is not his biological father.

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