In this Taboo Tuesday discussion, author, illustrator, and mental health advocate, Jordan Sondler, joins Dr. Emily to talk about what it was like going public about therapy and working on her mental health in her book, "Feel It Out: The Guide to Getting in Touch with Your Goals, Your Relationships, and Yourself." Sondler says that what started as an illustrated book for single people on how to survive a break-up turned into a book for every single person that covers many of life’s challenges from strengthening self-awareness to how to adopt a dog.
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Check out Jordan’s book Feel It Out: The Guide to Getting in Touch with Your Goals, Your Relationships, and Yourself
Learn more about Jordan’s work at Jordansondler.com
Photo of Jordan Sondler by @erichelgas
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JUMP STRAIGHT INTO:
(03:27) - Why Jordan started opening up about therapy - “I got into this work when I went through a breakup a few years ago and started suffering from anxiety attacks around that time. I went on medication, but I also felt like I had to find an outlet for myself. I started with the dating, and then, at a certain point in time, I had this idea that I really wanted to work on a book.”
(5:06) - Going from client work to something more personal - “When I sold this book and I started making it, I realized, ‘Uh-oh, this is all I want to do anymore.’ But it's really hard to go to all your clients and be like, ‘Hey, do you want to just hire me for totally different work?’"
(09:06) - Talking about therapy - “I will tell any person—like my barista at Starbucks—I'm in therapy. I will tell the world that I'm on SSRIs, because I really attribute being in therapy to everything great that has ever happened to me.”
(14:29) - The downside of sharing such personal work - “Sometimes I am questioning myself like, ‘Am I posting this because I want a bunch of strangers to like cheer me up?’ And then I'm like, ‘No, that's not why I'm posting it.’ But that just so happens to be a side effect.”
(21:21) - From Jordan’s book “Feel It Out” - “Put your needs first. Don't make yourself small. See a therapist. Compromise, but be sure it's balanced. Never love anyone more than yourself. Don't bury your feelings to avoid confrontation. Take trips without each other. Be open and honest from the beginning.”
(28:03) - Misconceptions about therapy - “A lot of people ask me, ‘Wow, do you always know what you're going to talk about? Or do you go to therapy to talk about a specific thing? The answer is no.”
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