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    Government

    ellisconversations’s podcast

    In this podcast, Jamil Ellis talks with his father, retired Federal Magistrate Judge Ronald Ellis, about the historical role of law in shaping the societal structures which act as barriers to attaining the American dream. They discuss why “legal” is not a synonym for “moral” and why law, a prime actor in creating the problems, can and should be a part of the solution. Join them as they talk about wealth, voting, education, criminal justice and other topics which divide the nation.

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    Latest Episodes:
    Claudine Gay: The Latest Victim in the Debate over DEI, Affirmative Action, and Meritocracy Jan 08, 2024
    Show notes

    In this episode, the hosts discuss the controversy concerning the Resignation of Harvard president Claudine Gay.Is Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion undermining merit or does it address a history of Discrimination, Exclusion, and Inequality.

    Claudine Gay's Resignation

    The Claudine Gay Debacle Was Never about Merit

    Claudine Gay and the Limits of Social Engineering at Harvard

    Biden to Appeal to Black Voters in Campaign Trip to Charleston, SC


    From Jamestown to Charlottesville: Virginia and America's racial divide Dec 22, 2023
    Show notes

    In this episode, the hosts discuss the leading role that Virginia has played in the racial divide in America's history. Home to the Founding Fathers and Capital of the Confederacy, the state has been the crucible of the ideals which built this country and the ideas which would tear it apart.

    Washington, DC History

    https://washington.org/DC-information/washington-dc-history

    Virginia 1619

    https://time.com/5653369/august-1619-jamestown-history/

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2019/02/06/virginia-is-birthplace-american-slavery-segregation-it-still-cant-escape-that-legacy/

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Virginia_political_crisis.

    https://blackvirginia.richmond.edu/items/show/873

    https://www.brookings.edu/articles/when-white-supremacy-came-to-virginia/

    https://encyclopediavirginia.org/entries/an-act-concerning-servants-and-slaves-1705/

    https://www.battlefields.org/learn/articles/10-facts-founding-fathers

    https://www.monticello.org/exhibits-events/livestreams-videos-and-podcasts/enslaved-on-grounds-slavery-at-the-university-of-virginia/#:~:text=From%20Thomas%20Jefferson's%20founding%20of,nation's%20most%20prestigious%20public%20universities

    Florida Episode - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/black-history-never-equal-never-protected-first-stop/id1485019282?i=1000623777868

    Indiana Episode - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/black-history-never-equal-never-protected-up-north/id1485019282?i=1000627180421


    Holding the Line: Sandra Day O'Connor's legacy of bringing stability to the Supreme Court by protecting its established precedents. Dec 06, 2023
    Show notes

    In this episode, the hosts discuss Justice O'Connor's role as the "swing vote" as the Court addressed major fault lines in our society on issues such as abortion, affirmative action, and gender equality.

    Planned Parenthood v. Casey

    https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/505/833/

    Grutter v. Bollinger

    https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/539/306/


    Black History: Never Equal; Never Protected: Up North to Indiana Sep 08, 2023
    Show notes

    In this episode, the hosts continue examining how specific states have addressed racial equality, Black history, and White Supremacy. In this episode, they travel outside the Deep South, and focus on the state of Indiana – Klan Capital and home of Sundown Towns.

    LINKS IN THIS EPISODE

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    • Violence in Jacksonville Florida
      • https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/26/us/jacksonville-florida-shooting-multiple-fatalities/index.html
      • https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/30/us/politics/jacksonville-desantis-black-community.html
    • Ax Handle Saturday
      • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ax_Handle_Saturday
    • Indiana History links
      • https://www.wboi.org/news/2020-09-17/sundown-towns-in-indiana-how-a-legacy-of-whites-only-towns-rose-and-continues-to-affect-today
      • https://www.wrtv.com/longform/the-ku-klux-klan-ran-indiana-once-could-it-happen-again
      • https://www.in.gov/history/for-educators/download-issues-of-the-indiana-historian/indiana-emigrants-to-liberia/being-black-in-indiana/#:~:text=The%20culmination%20of%20this%20prejudice,that%20money%20from%20fines%20be
      • https://www.in.gov/history/about-indiana-history-and-trivia/explore-indiana-history-by-topic/indiana-documents-leading-to-statehood/constitution-of-1851/article-13-negroes-and-mulattoes/
      • https://www.in.gov/history/for-educators/all-resources-for-educators/resources/underground-railroad/gwen-crenshaw/the-colonization-movement/
      • https://www.tribstar.com/community/state-didnt-allow-slavery-but-had-other-laws/article_3ebadde5-f5cc-5903-bd0e-985df0f87162.html
    • Rosedale, NY Racist attacks
      • https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/21/nyregion/racist-video-rosedale-queens.html

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    Black History: Never Equal; Never Protected - First Stop: Florida Aug 08, 2023
    Show notes

    In this episode, the hosts begin a series of episodes examining how specific states have addressed the racial equality, Black history, and White Supremacy. First stop: Florida.

    LINKS IN THIS EPISODE

    Smithsonian Magazine

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/one-hundred-years-ago-four-day-race-riot-engulfed-washington-dc-180972666/

    Florida Academic Standards 2023

    https://www.fldoe.org/core/fileparse.php/20653/urlt/6-4.pdf

    Ron DeSantis and the State Where History Goes to Die https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/28/opinion/desantis-slavery-florida-curriculum-history.html?smid=nytcore-android-share

    Removing Relics of "The Lost Cause" | On the Media | WNYC Studios

    https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/segments/removing-relics-lost-cause-on-the-media

    Lost Cause

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Cause_of_the_Confederacy

    Other Related Episodes

    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/colorblind-remedies-for-color-conscious-wrongs/id1485019282?i=1000619289008

    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-fire-this-time-black-history-surviving-in-the/id1485019282?i=1000599386336

    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/it-wasnt-only-tulsa/id1485019282?i=1000523721230

    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/stolen-history/id1485019282?i=1000462863417

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    Colorblind Remedies for Color-Conscious Wrongs Jul 04, 2023
    Show notes

    Photo Credit : Encyclyopedia Britanica

    In this program, the hosts discuss the Supreme Court's decision to forbid race-conscious affirmative action approaches to achieve diversity n higher education. The discussion contrasts Justice Roberts' pronouncement that decisions should be color-blind with Justice Jackson's reminder that the country has been far from colorblind and the effects are not just historical but real in the present because of the intergenerational transmission of inequality. Moreover, the "self-evident" truth that all are created equal has not been applicable to Black Americans.

    Ketanji Jackson Brown's dissenting opinion

    OTHER EPISODES OF INTEREST

    Affirmative Action - How we got to now

    From Loving vs Virginia to Roe vs Wade: Who gets to decide which rights get protected for Americans

    The Hands That Rock The Cradle: Donald Trump, the Supreme Court, and the Federalist Society.

    Whose Constitution is it, Anyway?: Originalism vs. The Living Constitution

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    Not in Our Stars, but in Ourselves: How The Supreme Court Undermined Its Own Reputation May 10, 2023
    Show notes

    Image Credit: Collection of the Supreme Court of the United States

    In this episode, the hosts discuss the Roberts Court's failure to adhere to precedent and the effect this is having on the public's confidence in the Supreme Court. Respect for precedents and the application of the principle of stare desisis provide constancy and comfort and avoids the appearance that the Court is swayed by political consideration. Simple assertions that a prior decision was wrongly decided are inadequate to justify undermining the expectations of parties before the Court and the public at large.

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    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/28/us/alito-supreme-court-abortion-leak.html

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/04/28/alito-leaker-dobbs-wsj/

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    From Loving vs Virginia to Roe vs Wade: Who gets to decide which rights get protected for Americans

    The Hands That Rock The Cradle: Donald Trump, the Supreme Court, and the Federalist Society.

    Whose Constitution is it, Anyway?: Originalism vs. The Living Constitution


    The Fire This Time: Black History Surviving in the Time of Modern-Day Book Banning Feb 10, 2023
    Show notes

    Photo credit: Afro.com EPISODE SUMMARY

    In this episode, the hosts discuss Black History and the historical use of book burning, book banning, and other methods to suppress inconvenient truths. False narratives flourish when voices remain silent are have been removed from the discussion.

    To download the transcript, CLICK HERE

    A FEW KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS EPISODE

    • Denying Black people education and banning books is part of historical pattern to control access to information to control the narrative
    • This practice of banning and burning books has been used throughout history by people in power wishing to keep power
    • ChatGPT disagress with the governor of Florida on the educational value of AP African American History
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    Current effort to ban books

    https://afro.com/10-banned-books-that-are-crucial-to-black-culture/

    These 176 Books Were Banned in Duval County, Florida - PEN America

    Ruby Bridges speaks out on book bans: 'Surely we are better than this' (yahoo.com)

    Why Book Ban Efforts Are Spreading Across the U.S. - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

    https://www.encyclopedia.com/people/social-sciences-and-law/social-reformers/nat-turner

    https://encyclopediavirginia.org/entries/turners-revolt-nat-1831/

    Reconquista

    https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/spain-announces-it-will-expel-all-jews

    https://bennorton.com/the-other-1492/

    The Politics of education and text books

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/01/12/us/texas-vs-california-history-textbooks.html

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    Martin Luther King - Waiting on His Dream

    From Loving vs Virginia to Roe vs Wade: Who gets to decide which rights get protected for Americans


    Martin Luther King: Waiting on His Dream Jan 16, 2023
    Show notes EPISODE SUMMARY

    In this episode, the hosts discuss why Martin Luther King should not be limited by a selection of words from the "I Have a Dream" speech delivered in 1963, and how he pointed out the failings of America, confronted those in power, and challenged them to make that dream a reality.

    A FEW KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS EPISODE

    • If you look at the "I Have a Dream "speech, and you don't look at that one line, but you look at what he said about the state of Black America and how black Americans were shackled in their own country, then you get a better sense of how he was confronting America and his treatment of a large segment of the population.

    • A great starting point to understand that when Martin Luther King Jr. says non-violent, he's confronting a system of American apartheid that is making second-class citizens.

    • America's a violent nation. It was born of violence. It was maintained by violence in the form of a civil war, and it's held together through violence. Martin Luther King was a revolutionary and his revolution wasn't premised on having more guns.

    To download the transcript, CLICK HERE

    LINKS IN THIS EPISODE

    MLK NBC Interview 11 months before his assassination

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xsbt3a7K-8

    Letter From Birmingham Jail

    https://www.africa.upenn.edu/Articles_Gen/Letter_Birmingham.html

    Homestead Act of 1862

    https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/civil_war/Homestead_Act.htm#:~:text=To%20help%20develop%20the%20American,western%20land%20to%20individual%20settlers

    https://www.aaihs.org/race-reconstruction/#:~:text=Since%20the%20Homestead%20Act%20was,and%20immigrant%20%E2%80%93%20profited%20from%20it.

    I Have A Dream Speech Video

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smEqnnklfYs

    I Have A Dream Speech Transcript

    https://www.npr.org/2010/01/18/122701268/i-have-a-dream-speech-in-its-entirety

    Frontline Transcript February 10, 1998

    https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/race/etc/script.html

    Washington Post Story on passage of King Day

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/opinions/articles/solemn_senate_votes_for_national_holiday.html

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    Affirmative Action: How We Got To Now

    John Lewis Voting Rights Act

    Role of Protest in Fostering Change


    They Don't Dare Call It Treason: Our House is Under Attack. Where's POTUS? Jan 06, 2023
    Show notes

    EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode, the hosts discuss the actions and inactions of Donald Trump during the January, 6 2021 attack on the Capitol and why letting it go unpunished is not a positive option.

    A FEW KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS EPISODE

    • Where we stand on the Trump's actions (or lack thereof) from the January 6th, 2021 assault on the U.S. Capitol.
    • Leaders with fascist tendencies have a very good grasp on media and you cannot deny that Trump's skill with the media and communicating.
    • People in authority cannot be excused from the consequences of their actions.

    To download the transcript, CLICK HERE

    LINKS IN THIS EPISODE

    CLICK HERE TO LEAVE FEEDBACK

    Some things from the Nixon Tapes https://www.history.com/news/nixon-secret-tapes-quotes-scandal-watergate

    January 6th Committee Report

    https://www.govinfo.gov/committee/house-january6th?path=/browsecommittee/chamber/house/committee/january6th/collection/CRPT/congress/117

    Full Committee Report https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-J6-REPORT/pdf/GPO-J6-REPORT.pdf Trump's Message to Crowd

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?507774-1/president-trump-claims-election-stolen-tells-protesters-leave-capitol

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