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    Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast

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    Monthly Roundup #45: August 2026 Aug 12, 2026
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    * 00:00 - Introduction

    * 01:03 - Plagiarize

    * 02:10 - The Jury Duty Scam

    * 03:16 - Play The Good Guy

    * 04:32 - Don’t Dither

    * 06:49 - UVC Lighting

    * 07:34 - Goal Factoring For Relaxation Time Is Underrated

    * 10:08 - Protein Is Mostly A Solved Problem

    * 11:37 - Twitter Changes Payment Programs

    * 13:14 - Wikipedia

    * 14:30 - Minds Mostly Do Things For Reasons

    * 15:52 - Woke 1 Was Crazy

    * 17:39 - For Your Entertainment

    * 23:58 - The Unicontext

    * 26:23 - Gamers Gonna Game Game Game Game Game

    * 30:34 - I Was Promised Flying Self-Driving Cars

    * 31:02 - Sports Go Sports

    * 31:36 - To Last a Lifetime

    * 33:37 - Government Working

    * 35:54 - Jones Act Watch

    * 36:37 - Variously Effective Altruism

    * 37:19 - The Lighter Side

    https://thezvi.substack.com/p/monthly-roundup-45-august-2026


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    Various Reflections About What Happened With OpenAI's Internal Models Aug 12, 2026
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    * 00:00:00 - Introduction

    * 00:00:08 - Pre Post Mortem

    * 00:01:11 - Important Correction: OpenAI Didn’t Know About First Message Board

    * 00:04:27 - There Were No Snitches And No AIs Got Stitches

    * 00:08:47 - I’d Like To Speak To My Supervisor

    * 00:12:10 - I Am Jack’s Relative Lack Of Surprise

    * 00:14:26 - One Does Not Simply

    * 00:15:46 - Once You Start Down The Dark Path

    * 00:16:49 - Original Pastebin

    * 00:22:28 - Judgment Day Is Inevitable, Say Those Working On Judgment Day

    * 00:28:30 - Roon Tells It Like It Is

    * 00:34:53 - OpenAI Knows It Has Some Misalignment Problems

    * 00:37:59 - Others React With Alarm To What Happened

    * 00:38:22 - The Cooperative Alignment Perspective

    * 00:42:41 - Nostalgebraist Is Surprised That They Are Surprised

    * 00:56:19 - If Your Reaction Is Not That We Need To Ban Creating Superintelligence Until We Are Ready, You Need A Damn Good Reason

    https://thezvi.substack.com/p/various-reflections-about-what-happened?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web


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    The Pacing of the Frontier Aug 10, 2026
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    * 00:00 - Introduction

    * 01:24 - Danger, Will Robinson

    * 02:39 - Progress Fast and Slow

    * 05:04 - Statements of Support For Pacing the Frontier

    * 14:46 - No One In Charge

    * 15:42 - Pacing The Frontier

    * 16:49 - Pausing the Frontier

    * 19:18 - Senator Sanders Demands A Pause

    * 22:53 - Moderate Prudence

    * 26:04 - That Escalated Quickly

    * 26:59 - If You Are In Mundane Alignment Pivot To Scalable Alignment

    * 31:34 - Taking It Fast

    * 32:51 - Full Speed Ahead

    * 33:54 - Suicide Squad

    * 35:21 - Prepare To Adjust Your Pace

    https://thezvi.substack.com/p/the-pacing-of-the-frontier?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web


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    What Happened: OpenAI and HuggingFace Aug 08, 2026
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    * 00:00 - Introduction

    * 01:19 - The Even Shorter Version

    * 02:44 - The Shorter Version

    * 05:08 - Phase 1: OpenAI Models Training On Impossible Tasks Try Hacking

    * 06:09 - Phase 1: The Four Failures

    * 07:59 - Phase 2: The Message Board

    * 10:02 - Phase 2: The Total Failure

    * 13:01 - Phase 3: We Get Lucky And Galaxy Mainly Hacked OpenAI and HuggingFace

    * 15:14 - Phase 3: The Details

    * 18:05 - Phase 4: The Investigation and Reaction

    https://thezvi.substack.com/p/what-happened-openai-and-huggingface?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web


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    OpenAI Trained Its Models For Months While Those Models Were Coordinating Exploits Via Message Boards Aug 07, 2026
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    00:00:00 - Introduction

    00:02:51 - Cyber Evals Are A Cursed Basin

    00:05:34 - Outside Of Cyber Evals Is Still Sufficiently Cursed

    00:07:13 - Cheat Cheat Cheat Cheat Cheat

    00:12:51 - Read The Message Board

    00:15:35 - Updating Your AI (Exploitation of OpenAI Internal Systems) Timelines

    00:19:14 - This Is The Way The World Ends

    00:23:12 - Shooting The Messenger Board

    00:29:27 - The Internal and HuggingFace Hacks

    00:32:43 - OpenAI Responds

    00:35:34 - When AIs Tell You Who They Are

    00:38:04 - The Once and Future Rise Of Functional Decision Theory

    00:44:11 - Don’t Panic

    00:46:18 - Hackery In the UK

    00:53:54 - Mythos Knew It Was Real This Time

    00:55:57 - I Got one hundred forty-one thousand six Test Runs With An Unintentional Open Path To The Internet And An Email Alert Aint One

    00:59:56 - Surely By Now You Know These Are Not Publicity Stunts

    01:01:50 - The Future Is Coming

    01:03:59 - The Investigations Begin

    01:06:56 - N Boats And Three Helicopters

    01:08:28 - Always Be Sandbox Red Teaming

    01:20:22 - Halt And Catch Fire

    01:21:56 - Truth and Reconciliation

    https://thezvi.substack.com/p/openai-trained-its-models-for-months?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web


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    AI #180: No Longer In Charge Aug 06, 2026
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    * 00:00:00 - Introduction

    * 00:02:11 - Table of Contents

    * 00:05:07 - Language Models Offer Mundane Utility

    * 00:05:52 - Huh, Upgrades

    * 00:08:44 - On Your Marks

    * 00:10:22 - Choose Your Fighter

    * 00:12:21 - Get My Agent On The Line

    * 00:14:01 - Deepfaketown and Botpocalypse Soon

    * 00:17:06 - Fun With Media Generation

    * 00:18:56 - Cyber Lack of Security

    * 00:25:01 - Some People Need Practical Advice

    * 00:28:09 - A Young Lady’s Illustrated Primer

    * 00:29:46 - They Took Our Jobs

    * 00:33:20 - Get Involved

    * 00:33:30 - Introducing

    * 00:33:40 - Demis Hassabis No Longer CEO At DeepMind, Jeff Dean Leaves

    * 00:38:57 - In Other AI News

    * 00:39:36 - AI Persuasion Exceeds Human Level Over Similar Text Channels

    * 00:44:06 - Show Me the Money

    * 00:47:44 - Bubble, Bubble, Toil and Trouble

    * 00:48:39 - Quiet Speculations

    * 00:49:39 - My Offer Is Nothing

    * 00:57:40 - The Quest for Sane Regulations

    * 00:59:43 - Chip City

    * 01:02:56 - The Week in Audio

    * 01:03:18 - People Just Say Things

    * 01:03:47 - Rhetorical Innovation

    * 01:07:38 - Open Weights Models Are Unsafe And Nothing Can Fix This

    * 01:10:30 - Cooperative Alignment

    * 01:15:19 - Other People Are Not As Worried About AI Killing Everyone

    * 01:16:01 - The Lighter Side

    https://thezvi.substack.com/p/ai-180-no-longer-in-charge?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web


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    The Three AI Pills Aug 05, 2026
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    * 00:00 - Introduction

    * 00:22 - Three Pills

    * 00:57 - The Unpill People

    * 02:00 - The AI Pill

    * 04:09 - Stuck At The First Pill

    * 05:07 - The AGI Pill

    * 06:43 - The Need To Be Prepared

    * 08:36 - The ASI Pill

    * 10:12 - And Then Nothing Much Changes For You

    * 12:19 - Intelligence Denialism

    * 13:41 - Superintelligence Versus Omniscience and Omnipotence

    * 16:19 - Persuasion Persuasion (A Worked Example)

    * 21:49 - Things AI Could Probably Do But Are Not Required For Being Pilled

    * 24:21 - Life Comes At You Increasingly Fast

    * 25:41 - Is It Reasonable To Not Be AGI Pilled?

    * 26:05 - Is It Reasonable To Only Be AGI Pilled?

    https://thezvi.substack.com/p/the-three-ai-pills?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web


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    OpenAI's Unreleased Model Astra Solves Ten Major Open Mathematics Problems Aug 03, 2026
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    * 00:00 - Introduction

    * 06:24 - How Impressive Are These Results?

    * 15:01 - Could We Have Called Sol or Fable?

    * 20:40 - It’s Coming

    * 22:38 - They Still Don’t See What Is The It That Is Coming

    * 26:15 - Is This AGI?

    * 28:09 - The AI Solved His Favorite Problems

    * 33:44 - Was This Surprising?

    * 35:56 - Are People Not Impressed?

    * 38:02 - How Much Does This Change Our Predictions?

    * 41:20 - How Narrow Was This?

    * 43:17 - Seeing Like an Optimizer

    https://open.substack.com/pub/thezvi/p/openais-unreleased-model-astra-solves?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web


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    Further Developments About Internal AI Models Hacking Things Aug 02, 2026
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    * 00:00:00 - Introduction

    * 00:03:25 - OpenAI Is Not Uniquely Bad At Most Of This

    * 00:05:42 - Starting Over

    * 00:05:58 - HuggingFace Offers A Full Technical Report

    * 00:15:22 - HuggingFace Was Not The Only Target Hacked

    * 00:17:07 - HuggingFace Declined To Get Access To Frontier Models For Cyberdefense For Ideological Reasons And Then Tried To Blame Closed Models For Denying Them Access

    * 00:21:30 - HuggingFace Was Vulnerable To Known Exploitation Tactics

    * 00:22:06 - There’s Going To Be An Investigation

    * 00:23:14 - OpenAI Has Internal Models Not Intended For Public Use And Those Models Can Be Rather Horribly Misaligned

    * 00:24:30 - Altman Summarizes What Happened

    * 00:25:00 - Others Offer Commentary

    * 00:36:52 - Cooperative Alignment Perspective on The HuggingFace Hack

    * 00:42:06 - Some Members of Congress Have Questions

    * 00:43:05 - Anthropic Also Found Incidents Where Its Models Hacked Real World Targets During Cyber Evaluations

    * 00:48:59 - Incident 1: Claude Opus 4.7 Realizes The Target Is Real And Keeps Going

    * 00:50:08 - Incident 2: Mythos 5 Uploads a Malicious PyPI Package

    * 00:54:59 - Incident 3: Internal Model Realizes The Target Is Real And Stops

    * 00:55:37 - Incidents 4 Through one hundred forty-one thousand six: Nothing Happened

    * 00:56:53 - Anthropic Speculates About Why This Happened

    * 01:03:01 - We Need Controlled Experiments

    * 01:03:58 - Our Top Two AI Labs Both Made Similar Dumb Mistakes That Everyone Tried To Say Were Obvious In Hindsight

    * 01:08:30 - Anthropic Responds

    * 01:12:37 - Nobody Could Have Predicted The Break In The Levees

    * 01:15:22 - The World Largely Still Thinking This Is Marketing Is Very Bad News

    https://open.substack.com/pub/thezvi/p/further-developments-about-internal?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web


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    AI #179 Part 2: Hearing The Fire Alarm Jul 31, 2026
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    * 00:00:00 - Introduction

    * 00:00:31 - Table of Contents

    * 00:01:55 - The Frontier Act

    * 00:05:02 - The Quest for Sane Regulations

    * 00:12:10 - Leading the Future Never Changes

    * 00:14:02 - Chip City

    * 00:19:26 - The Week in Audio

    * 00:21:09 - People Just Say Yay Open Weights

    * 00:35:07 - Open Weights Frontier Models Are Unsafe And Nothing Can Fix This

    * 00:40:18 - People Just Say Things

    * 00:50:52 - Push The Magic Button

    * 00:54:38 - Rhetorical Innovation

    * 01:00:58 - Joshua Achiam’s Final Message Upon Leaving OpenAI

    * 01:04:15 - Dear Dario and Amanda

    * 01:21:15 - Other People Are Not As Worried About AI Killing Everyone

    * 01:23:49 - How To Contact Me

    * 01:25:56 - The Lighter Side

    https://open.substack.com/pub/thezvi/p/ai-179-part-2-hearing-the-fire-alarm?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web


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