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    Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast

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    AI #183: Pre Post Mortem Aug 27, 2026
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    * 00:00:00 - Introduction

    * 00:00:52 - Table of Contents

    * 00:03:29 - Language Models Offer Mundane Utility

    * 00:04:17 - Language Models Don’t Offer Mundane Utility

    * 00:06:23 - Huh, Upgrades

    * 00:09:09 - Get My Agent On The Line

    * 00:11:12 - Deepfaketown and Botpocalypse Soon

    * 00:16:22 - Cyber Lack of Security

    * 00:22:08 - Reinventing OpenAI

    * 00:27:16 - They Took Our Jobs

    * 00:33:49 - What Is The Law

    * 00:34:50 - Job Retraining Programs Don’t Work

    * 00:35:56 - Get Involved

    * 00:39:26 - In Other AI News

    * 00:46:03 - Show Me the Money

    * 00:47:36 - Quiet Speculations

    * 00:52:07 - If You’re Not Going To Take This Seriously

    * 00:54:07 - Quickly, There’s No Time

    * 00:55:45 - The Quest for Sane Regulations

    * 01:00:47 - Don’t Panic

    * 01:03:54 - Pacing the Frontier

    * 01:06:55 - Chip City

    * 01:10:53 - The Week in Audio

    * 01:11:12 - People Just Say Things

    * 01:12:18 - Rhetorical Innovation

    * 01:18:21 - Mundane Incremental Alignment Is Worthwhile

    * 01:20:40 - New Blog, Who Dis

    * 01:24:11 - Other People Are Not As Worried About AI Killing Everyone

    * 01:25:45 - The Lighter Side

    https://thezvi.substack.com/p/ai-183-pre-post-mortem?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web


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    Against Modesty’s Bailey Aug 26, 2026
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    * 00:00 - Introduction

    * 01:51 - Modesty’s Bailey

    * 02:45 - Epistemic Peerage

    * 03:59 - The Exchange

    * 08:54 - Eliezer’s Explanation

    * 15:10 - A Demonstration That Eliezer’s Translation Accurately Describes Many People Whether Or Not It Describes Leopold

    * 17:13 - Wrong, Stupid and Low Status Are Three Distinct Things

    * 20:18 - A Quick Survey Of Some Reasons To Not Be Epistemically Modest

    * 23:45 - Against Modesty’s Bailey

    https://thezvi.substack.com/p/against-modestys-bailey?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web


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    On Writing #3 Aug 25, 2026
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    * 00:00 - Introduction

    * 00:38 - You Still Got It

    * 03:52 - How Scott Sumner Writes

    * 06:28 - How Scott Alexander Writes

    * 10:34 - How Jasmine Sun Writes

    * 12:50 - How Various Famous Writers Write

    * 14:01 - How Nabeel Qureshi Defines Great Writing

    * 14:46 - Quickly, There’s No Time

    * 15:28 - If At First

    * 18:44 - Writers Have A Harder Time Influencing, But It Can Still Be Done

    * 20:19 - It’s Not (Only) The Incentives, It’s (Also) You

    * 23:54 - Beware The Fetish of the Desk

    * 25:08 - How Orson Scott Card Writes

    * 26:48 - Doing The Math Is Fun And Supererogatory

    * 27:47 - Brevity is the Soul of Wit

    https://thezvi.substack.com/p/on-writing-3?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web


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    The American People Really Hate Data Centers Aug 24, 2026
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    * 00:00 - Introduction

    * 00:48 - The American People Really Hate Data Centers

    * 02:59 - Transmission Lines Are The Control Group

    * 03:43 - Thesis: People Mostly Dislike Data Centers Because They Dislike and Distrust AI, Tech Companies, Big Money And Building Things

    * 05:07 - No It’s Mostly Not the Messaging About AI In General

    * 10:33 - No This Mostly Isn’t An Op

    * 11:40 - No This Isn’t Luxury Belief or Moral Panic

    * 13:46 - A Lot Of People Really Do Want To Stop AI

    * 14:35 - A Lot Of Other People Are Voting No On Tech Or The Man Generally

    * 17:23 - Locals Feel Entitled To Heavily Tax The Gains From Construction

    * 22:15 - Stupid Mistakes Like NDAs Don’t Help

    * 22:43 - People Don’t Like Building or Building New Tech

    * 26:09 - What About The Real Physical Concerns?

    * 27:48 - Find A Place To Center Your Data

    https://thezvi.substack.com/p/the-american-people-really-hate-data?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web


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    AI Text Watermarking Is Free And Good Aug 21, 2026
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    * 00:00 - Introduction

    * 03:56 - This Is Fine

    * 04:37 - Anthropic Derangement Syndrome

    * 07:40 - People Don’t Understand LLM Outputs Are Already Random

    * 08:54 - People Don’t Trust The Method To Be Costless

    * 12:41 - People Are Suspicious Of Any Alteration On Principle

    * 14:36 - Maybe It’s Partly The Word Watermark

    * 15:27 - A Lot Of People Don’t Want To Get Caught

    * 16:09 - There Are Some Times You Prefer Not To Be Recognized

    * 16:23 - There Are Some Good Reasons To Be Concerned

    * 16:41 - Cheat Cheat Cheat Cheat Cheat

    * 18:49 - The Writing In The Middle and Error Rates

    * 21:22 - Millions For Defense But Not One Cent For Tribute

    https://thezvi.substack.com/p/ai-text-watermarking-is-free-and?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web


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    AI #182: Pause For Reflection Aug 20, 2026
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    * 00:00:00 - Introduction

    * 00:01:23 - Table of Contents

    * 00:04:58 - Language Models Offer Mundane Utility

    * 00:06:11 - Language Models Don’t Offer Mundane Utility

    * 00:06:47 - Huh, Upgrades

    * 00:10:21 - On Your Marks

    * 00:14:09 - Deepfaketown and Botpocalypse Soon

    * 00:21:06 - Hello, Fellow Humans

    * 00:23:57 - Fun With Media Generation

    * 00:25:32 - Cyber Lack of Security

    * 00:27:46 - A Young Lady’s Illustrated Primer

    * 00:29:05 - They Took Our Jobs

    * 00:31:19 - Get Involved

    * 00:33:05 - Introducing

    * 00:33:17 - In Other AI News

    * 00:35:27 - Show Me the Money

    * 00:39:13 - And It’s Gone

    * 00:41:20 - Quiet Speculations

    * 00:45:15 - Quickly, There’s No Time

    * 00:46:17 - Singularity Singularity Singularity Singularity Oh I Don’t Know

    * 00:47:48 - The Quest for Sane Regulations

    * 00:53:12 - Chip City

    * 00:54:33 - The Week in Audio

    * 00:55:11 - People Just Say Things

    * 00:57:58 - Rhetorical Innovation

    * 01:03:06 - Loyalty Uber Alles

    * 01:06:16 - A Hive Of Scum And Villainy

    * 01:11:19 - That Would Be Bad Therefore It Won’t Work

    * 01:13:52 - Robert Reich Uses Simple Logic

    * 01:16:26 - People Really Hate AI

    * 01:17:11 - Coordinating An Agent Swarm Is Difficult

    * 01:22:49 - Aligning a Smarter Than Human Intelligence is Difficult

    * 01:24:16 - It’s Not The Incentives, It’s You, Also It’s The Incentives

    * 01:26:16 - People Are Worried About AI Killing Everyone

    * 01:27:00 - People Are Worried About So, So Many Other Things Too

    * 01:32:21 - Cooperative Alignment

    * 01:33:19 - The Lighter Side

    https://thezvi.substack.com/p/ai-182-pause-for-reflection?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web


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    OpenAI Takes Initial Steps To Address Its Alignment Problems Aug 19, 2026
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    * 00:00 - Introduction

    * 02:14 - OpenAI Has Some Alignment Problems

    * 04:36 - Slow Down There Good Buddy

    * 10:50 - What Exactly Is Paused?

    * 13:15 - Three Pillars

    * 16:02 - I’ve Got My Eye On You

    * 19:42 - The Most Forbidden Technique

    * 21:37 - Monitoring Is Only Defense-In-Depth

    * 25:25 - Security

    * 26:07 - Alignment

    * 33:04 - A Crisis of Culture

    * 34:55 - Closer Collaboration

    * 35:59 - Reports of Death of Preparedness Team Greatly Exaggerated

    * 38:11 - The OpenAI Foundation Just Funds Things

    * 40:34 - Quickly, There’s No Time

    https://thezvi.substack.com/p/openai-takes-initial-steps-to-address?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web


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    Anthropic Risk Report: August 2026 Aug 18, 2026
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    * 00:00:00 - Introduction

    * 00:01:07 - Agent Model 1 and Agent Model 2

    * 00:02:53 - Executive Summary (1)

    * 00:04:17 - The Rules Are Serious But Not Literal

    * 00:06:39 - Misalignment Is a State of Mind (2.5)

    * 00:12:28 - Autonomy Threat Model 1: Misalignment in High-Stakes Settings (2)

    * 00:17:30 - Some Strange Uses Of The Word Safe I Wasn’t Previously Aware Of

    * 00:19:19 - Now Versus Future (2.17)

    * 00:19:55 - The Core Claims And Argument (2.6)

    * 00:31:11 - The Rest of the Important Arguments In Section 2

    * 00:33:48 - Risk Assessment (2.19)

    * 00:34:41 - Pre-Internal-Deployment Review (2.18)

    * 00:35:44 - A Guide To Internal Use Monitoring (2.23.1)

    * 00:43:06 - Blocking Interventions (2.23.2)

    * 00:44:25 - The Power Seeking Environment Evaluation (2.24)

    * 00:45:27 - Opus 4.8-Reward-Hacker (2.25)

    * 00:47:34 - Autonomy threat model 2: Risks from automated R&D (3)

    * 00:51:03 - Yes That Does Seem Kind Of Risky

    * 00:53:41 - Could We Replace Our Researchers?

    * 00:55:30 - How Much Could We Be Accelerating Our AI Researchers?

    * 00:58:53 - What Could Possibly Go Wrong If We Replaced Our Researchers?

    * 00:59:35 - Risk Mitigations For AI R&D Automation

    * 01:08:08 - Overall Risk From Automation of AI R&D

    * 01:08:22 - Biological and Technically Also Chemical Weapons Production

    * 01:12:05 - The Threat Models for Biological and Chemical Weapons

    * 01:17:35 - Model Capabilities (4.4)

    * 01:19:06 - Classifiers (4.5)

    * 01:21:07 - Acceleration Dynamics (5.1)

    * 01:22:09 - Distillation (5.1.1)

    * 01:23:22 - Safety Process Failures (5.2)

    * 01:23:34 - Refusing To Find Innovative Misalignment Techniques (5.2.2)

    * 01:24:55 - Exposing the Chain of Thought Reasoning To Grading Pressure Quite a Lot (5.2.3)

    * 01:26:27 - Directly Training On Misaligned Behavior During a Production Training Run (5.2.4)

    * 01:29:06 - An instance of unmonitored unrestricted agents with access to sensitive resources (5.2.5)

    * 01:30:06 - Repeated training on alignment-faking transcript datasets (5.2.6)

    * 01:32:47 - Benefits From Anthropic’s Operating as a Frontier AI company (5.3)

    * 01:34:57 - Model Weight Security (6.4)

    * 01:35:17 - Risk Has Been Reported

    https://thezvi.substack.com/p/anthropic-risk-report-august-2026?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web


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    On Dwarkesh Patel's Podcast With Ryan Greenblatt Aug 15, 2026
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    * 00:00 - Introduction

    * 01:00 - Introduction 2

    * 03:30 - Is AI R&D Verifiable Enough To Unlock Recursive Self-Improvement?

    * 11:28 - Is AI progress bottlenecked by human expert data?

    * 21:41 - Flat token prices suggest scaling has been slow

    * 24:46 - Skills AI can’t train on: does it even need them?

    * 25:29 - Aligned to whom?

    * 36:06 - Recent incidents of AIs colluding and deceiving humans

    * 39:32 - What could possibly go wrong? A concrete scenario

    * 48:05 - From reward hacking to takeover

    * 53:16 - Time To Update

    https://thezvi.substack.com/p/on-dwarkesh-patels-podcast-with-ryan?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web


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    AI #181: Astra Goes Cyber Critical Aug 13, 2026
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    * 00:00:00 - Introduction

    * 00:02:10 - Table of Contents

    * 00:05:12 - Language Models Offer Mundane Utility

    * 00:06:42 - Language Models Don’t Offer Mundane Utility

    * 00:10:07 - Huh, Upgrades

    * 00:18:27 - On Your Marks

    * 00:23:28 - Deepfaketown and Botpocalypse Soon

    * 00:27:36 - Cyber Lack of Security

    * 00:31:50 - Overcoming Bias

    * 00:32:43 - In Which I Feel Compelled To Read six thousand Words From Mark Zuckerberg

    * 00:41:51 - Get Involved

    * 00:43:06 - Slow Down There Good Buddy

    * 00:49:44 - Astra For The People

    * 00:51:36 - Watermarking

    * 00:52:34 - In Other AI News

    * 00:54:44 - Show Me the Money

    * 00:58:07 - Quickly, There’s No Time

    * 00:58:33 - The Quest for Sane Regulations

    * 01:00:15 - The Institute For Marginal Low Regret Progress

    * 01:08:19 - Congress Asks Good Questions

    * 01:10:01 - The Week in Audio

    * 01:14:18 - People Just Say Things

    * 01:15:09 - I’m Telling You For The Last Time

    * 01:17:42 - Uncommon Knowledge

    * 01:21:00 - What Did They Mean By That?

    * 01:21:47 - Too Soon

    * 01:22:47 - The Three AI Pills

    * 01:26:44 - Rhetorical Innovation

    * 01:35:04 - Some People Still Think The HuggingFace Hack Was a Marketing Gimmick

    * 01:36:23 - Aligning a Smarter Than Human Intelligence is Difficult

    * 01:44:11 - Cooperative Alignment

    * 01:45:05 - The Lighter Side

    https://thezvi.substack.com/p/ai-181-astra-goes-cyber-critical?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web


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