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    Designed by Wingnut Social | Interior Design Business

    The interior design business podcast for interior designers, architects, and home professionals. Hosted by interior design and digital marketing pro, Darla Powell.
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    Why You Should Go to High Point Market Aug 12, 2019
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    You’ve heard about it, you’ve seen the Instagram photos, but is hitting up High Point Market worth it for interior designers? The answer, yes, on this week’s Monday Minisode (not poddy).

    Today, Darla and Natalie issue a public service announcement. High Point Market may not be until October, but you should be thinking about it and booking your hotel, etc., now, because lodgings go quickly. In fact, if you’re new to High Point, you can do what Darla and Natalie did their first year there, and use High Point’s concierge to book a room and dinner reservations.

    But beyond the logistics, why should you go to High Point, and what is it? High Point is a giant furniture showroom, and they open it up for interior designers at a massive conference. There are events, speakers, etc., and it’s a rare opportunity for designers to test out furniture you only see online. Of course there’s also ample opportunity to learn, to take photos for your Instagram accounts, and to network like crazy. Darla and Natalie went to their first High Point two years ago, and now they both might be speaking at it again (details coming soon). High Point should be on every interior designer’s calendar, and this episode shows why.

    What You’ll Hear On This Episode of Wingnut Social
    • [0:33] Never call this a minipoddy
    • [2:18] High Point basics
    • [3:31] Why it’s worth it
    • [5:30] Get your room booked
    • [7:35] The High Point app
    • [10:18] Networking at High Point
    Resources & People Mentioned
    • High Point Market
    • High Point’s app
    • Wingnut Social Media Lab
    Connect With Darla & Wingnut Social
    • www.WingnutSocial.com
    • On Facebook
    • On Twitter: @WingnutSocial
    • On Instagram: @WingnutSocial
    • Darla’s Interior Design Website

    Subscribe to The Wingnut Social Podcast on iTunes, Google Podcasts, or TuneIn


    Should Interior Designers Become General Contractors with Nicole White Aug 07, 2019
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    General contractors are a necessary partner when hiring trades to complete the project you designed. But what if you were a general contractor? Today, on the podcast, heading back to school with Nicole White.

    Nicole White is the principal of Nicole White Designs, which was recently voted a top Southern Florida design firm and one of 10 designers to watch by the Black Interior Designers Network. Nicole and her team specialize in renovation work and transforming client spaces. Nicole was born in Jamaica, and is constantly inspired by the bold colors of the Caribbean. She’s also the #renovationqueen.

    What You’ll Hear On This Episode of Wingnut Social
    • [1:15] Get yourself a handy ginger
    • [4:05] Should Natalie become a GC?
    • [7:03] Nicole and Darla may have met in the streets
    • [12:15] Why it was good to smell like a dump
    • [15:50] GCs drive you nuts
    • [19:44] Nicole does the work on her projects
    • [22:00] The savings from becoming a GC
    • [26:05] The renovation queen
    • [31:30] Natalie’s hangup
    • [34:40] Whut up, Wingnut?
    Connect with Nicole White
    • Nicole White Designs
    • Nicole on Instagram
    Resources & People Mentioned
    • LuAnn Nigara
    • Wouldn’t Take Nothing for My Journey Now
    • Wingnut Social Media Lab
    Getting your hands dirty as a general contractor

    Nicole is first and foremost an interior designer, but when she first got into the business, her partner was a general contractor. That meant that often times, she was pitching in and helping out with some of the tradecraft on the job. She cut tile, she help put up walls, everything. So this type of work is in her blood.

    And as she says on the podcast, she manages her projects as a pseudo-general contractor already (no phone calls, please). She has her own trades, so while the GC still needs to be there to get the permits, etc., Nicole sees becoming a GC herself as the next logical step.

    Being a general contractor allows interior designers to be one-stop shops

    Nicole specializes in renovations, which often means clients are out of the house while she and her team are doing the work. So, as she points out, if she can say she’s a general contractor, then the client can just hire her, and not have to worry about signing more contracts and managing more work with a general contractor.

    There’s also a cost-savings to becoming your own general contractor. How much does Nicole estimate she’ll save by becoming a GC? And did she convince Natalie to head back to school? Find out on this week’s episode.

    Connect With Darla & Wingnut Social
    • www.WingnutSocial.com
    • On Facebook
    • On Twitter: @WingnutSocial
    • On Instagram: @WingnutSocial
    • Darla’s Interior Design Website

    Subscribe to The Wingnut Social Podcast on iTunes, Google Podcasts, or TuneIn

    When to Hire for Your Interior Design Firm Aug 05, 2019
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    On this week’s Marketing Monday Minisode, the Head Wingnut and the Hungry Ginger talk about the first time they delegated work. Darla was asked to do a 3D rendering of a room, and it took her way longer than could be financially justified. And after hiring out that work, and consulting with a copy of The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks, Darla realized she should be focusing on the work that leverages her strongest talents.

    And nearly two years ago, Darla Powell Interiors made its first hire of an interior designer, without actually having the financial means to do so. And that was because they were juggling so many clients, they needed someone to not only take some of that work, but fill in gaps in the company’s skills. It’s worked out great, and now that they can work with so many more clients, that hire has paid for itself again and again. But this episode isn’t just about hiring designers, Darla and Natalie also give tips on small ways you can delegate so you’re doing what you should be doing.

    What You’ll Hear On This Episode of Wingnut Social
    • [0:33] Natalie’s a hungry ginger
    • [3:00] Juggling clients early on
    • [7:57] When to hire without the means
    • [11:10] What’s your vision for your company?
    • [13:45] Other ways to delegate
    Resources & People Mentioned
    • The Big Leap
    • Wingnut Social Media Lab
    Connect With Darla & Wingnut Social
    • www.WingnutSocial.com
    • On Facebook
    • On Twitter: @WingnutSocial
    • On Instagram: @WingnutSocial
    • Darla’s Interior Design Website

    Subscribe to The Wingnut Social Podcast on iTunes, Google Podcasts, or TuneIn


    How Interior Designers Can Get Featured in Magazines with Sara Lynn Brennan Jul 31, 2019
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    Getting published in magazines can be huge for an interior designer’s business? So how has one designer, who’s only been in the biz 18 months, been published so much? Find out on today’s episode!

    Sara Lynn Brennan is an award-winning entrepreneur, CEO and Principal Interior Designer at Sara Lynn Brennan Interiors, the first and only full-service interior design firm in Waxhaw, North Carolina who specializes in transitional design. She and her design-build team take spaces from bare bones to beautiful by utilizing her exclusive, approachable and stress-free design process, transforming and renovating homes from start to finish. She’s also been published in magazines a bajillion times.

    What You’ll Hear On This Episode of Wingnut Social
    • [5:30] How much is a bajillion?
    • [7:25] Why Sara niched her design style
    • [10:23] What do you do if your client doesn’t like your style
    • [14:15] How Sara landed her first publication
    • [18:50] Sara still sends out her own pitches
    • [21:15] Patience with editors
    • [24:00] Send your vision boards
    • [28:05] What Sara does to promote her publications
    • [30:30] Credibility boost
    • [34:00] Applause for Sara
    • [37:12] Whut up, Wingnut?
    Connect with Sara Lynn Brennan
    • Sara Lynn Brennan
    • Sara on Facebook
    • Sara on Instagram
    Resources & People Mentioned
    • LuAnn Nigara
    • Amy Flurry
    • The Lean Startup
    • Wingnut Social Media Lab
    Build relationships

    Sara first got started publishing her work in magazines by first focusing on her own home. Her very first feature was her own house, and from there she was able to establish a relationship with that editor so her client work could be featured as well. And how did she do that? By making it very easy for the editor to work with her. She keeps in touch with editors to foster a relationship, and she lets them in early in the process, sharing vision boards so they know what she’s working on for their upcoming editorial calendars.

    How does getting published change things?

    The short answer from Sara is that it doesn’t. That doesn’t mean it hasn’t been good for business, but she says she hasn’t seen any clients come through her door saying, “I saw you featured in this magazine.” But the benefits go beyond direct client bookings. For instance, Sara throws events in her hometown, so people can “meet the designer” who has just been featured in a magazine. And getting into magazines has helped her establish her aesthetic in a clear and easy-to-communicate way.

    Connect With Darla & Wingnut Social
    • www.WingnutSocial.com
    • On Facebook
    • On Twitter: @WingnutSocial
    • On Instagram: @WingnutSocial
    • Darla’s Interior Design Website

    Subscribe to The Wingnut Social Podcast on iTunes, Google Podcasts, or TuneIn


    The Top 4 Apps for Interior Designers Jul 29, 2019
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    Apps make life easier for you in 100 different ways. But for interior designers, there are four that can really be game changers. Darla and Natalie break them down on this episode.

    The first app the two recommend is a graphic design program that is cop- and firefighter-proof: Canva. Canva is an online app that’s plug and play and allows you to make pro-level graphics with a minimum of sweat. Up next is a task-tracking app that has made a huge difference at Wingnut Social, allowing everyone to see who needs to do what to keep a project moving.

    The third app Darla and Natalie recommend is Slack. If you’ve never used Slack, it’s like a group-text for work, where everyone can see what’s happening. It’s a really powerful tool that allows you to discuss projects even if some of your staff are remote, you can create different channels for different clients or topics. You can DM and you can have public conversations. It really does change how a workplace communicates. And the fourth app? Well, you’ll have to listen to find out what that is (and don’t scroll down any further).

    What You’ll Hear On This Episode of Wingnut Social
    • [0:55] Can a plug not be shameless?
    • [1:35] The #4 app for interior designers
    • [2:40] The #3 app
    • [6:00] The #2 app
    • [8:45] The #1 app
    Resources & People Mentioned
    • Cheryl Kees Clendenon on the pod
    • Canva
    • Asana
    • Slack
    • Mydoma Studio
    • Wingnut Social Media Lab
    Connect With Darla & Wingnut Social
    • www.WingnutSocial.com
    • On Facebook
    • On Twitter: @WingnutSocial
    • On Instagram: @WingnutSocial
    • Darla’s Interior Design Website


    Subscribe to The Wingnut Social Podcast on iTunes, Google Podcasts, or TuneIn


    Could A Showhouse Be In The Future Of Your Design Career? with Corey Damen Jenkins Jul 24, 2019
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    One of the most prestigious showhouse projects in the nation is the Kips Bay Decorator Showhouse - a project that benefits the Boys & Girls Clubs of America. This past year Corey Damen Jenkins received a personal invitation to participate in the project - and the work his team did in that house was UH-MAY-ZING!

    In this episode of Wingnut Social, we talk with Corey about how he became involved with the project, what is typically involved in doing a showhouse project from a practical standpoint, and what he recommends you do if you are considering participation in a showhouse project as part of your business strategy. You’ll learn what is needed in terms of budget, participation, marketing, and more - and hear why we politely declined a showhouse invitation early in our design career.

    What You’ll Hear On This Episode of Wingnut Social
    • [1:12] Our 4th of July recap (and the PTSD and K9 terror that ensued)
    • [4:18] The amazing Corey Damen Jenkins on this episode!
    • [6:18] Corey’s experience doing the Kips Bay Showhouse
    • [9:56] The uptick in business since doing the showhouse project
    • [14:14] How can local designers get started working on showhouses?
    • [20:11] When a designer should NOT participate in a showhouse
    • [27:39] How Corey determined the design for his room
    • [33:26] The marketing balance needed when participating in a showhouse project
    • [38:50] The Whatup Wingnut round
    • [44:01] Wrap-up and summary of the conversation
    • [47:54] Blooper reel
    Connect with Corey Damen Jenkins
    • Corey’s website: https://coreydamenjenkins.com/
    • On Instagram: @CoreyDamenJenkins
    • On Facebook
    • On Pinterest: @CoreyDamenJ
    • On Twitter: @CoreyDJenkins
    Resources & People Mentioned
    • Leathercraft
    • Hudson Valley Lighting
    • HGTV: Showhouse Showdown
    • The Kips Bay Showhouse Corey worked on
    • Corey’s spread on Traditional Home Magazine
    • Junior League
    • Holiday House
    • Design on a Dime
    • Theodore Alexander
    • Kravet
    • Courier Company
    • Arteriors
    • Lee Industries
    • The Fisher Mansion showhouse Corey worked on
    • BOOK: The Bible
    Participating in a showhouse project can radically grow your business

    As you might expect, a showhouse project as prestigious as the Kips Bay Decorator Showhouse can garner a lot of attention for the designers who participate, and Corey made the most of his opportunity by being on-site during the tour. He stayed in his room the whole time, interacting with those who came through, discussing his inspiration and purpose for the room, and answering any questions those touring the house may have had.

    As a result, the phone has been ringing off the hook ever since. That’s what you’d hope for but given the quality and stunning nature of what Corey was able to create, you’d also expect that to be the case. On this episode, Corey generously shares how he made the most of the opportunity and gives sensible and practical advice about how to get your foot in the door with showhouse organizers in your neck of the woods.

    The strength of your showhouse participation is your relationships

    While the prestige and notoriety of being involved with a showhouse are typically very beneficial to you as a designer, you can’t do it alone. Corey explains that much of his success with the Kips Bay project flowed out of the existing relationships he had with General Contractors, photographers, manufacturers, and more. In his mind, the real strength behind your participation will come from the relationships you’re able to forge.

    Corey explains why you should work to ally yourself with reputable vendors and manufacturers long before a showhouse project comes on your radar, how to go about it, how to negotiate donations or cost-splits for the showhouse design, and what it takes to work as a team to pull off an incredible effect from your room(s).

    The secret behind successful press coverage for your showhouse room

    When Corey approached the design of his room in the Kips Bay project - the library - he approached it from a very different angle than you might expect. Historically, the library would have been a gentleman’s office or “man cave” of the day, so Corey wanted to bring a 21st-century approach to the room. He reversed that traditional approach into a way to pay homage to the significant role women have played in society.

    He suggests that designers have a very clear plan and inspiration behind their room design in a showhouse so that they can easily and passionately talk about it with those who are interested - including the press. There’s nothing more un-press-worthy than a designer who only talks about color palettes and furniture choices for their room. Engaging with reporters about your room’s theme and inspiration provides a spin on the work that interests a wider audience and attracts press coverage.

    Listen to hear the entire conversation. Corey is a gifted, generous guest who made this episode a delight for both of us… and we’re confident you’ll feel the same as you hear it.

    Connect With Darla & Wingnut Social
    • www.WingnutSocial.com
    • On Facebook
    • On Twitter: @WingnutSocial
    • On Instagram: @WingnutSocial
    • Darla’s Interior Design Website

    Subscribe to The Wingnut Social Podcast on iTunes, Google Podcasts, or TuneIn

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    Is Your Design Business Missing In Google Local Search? You Need Google My Business Jul 22, 2019
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    Let’s do a little experiment: search for “Interior Design YOUR CITY” right now on Google - and you’ll see Google Local Search listings right at the top. Is your business shown there? It SHOULD be… but if it’s not, never fear. This minisode is all about helping you get set up on what’s now called “Google My Business.”

    Listen to learn what Google My Business is and where it appears on search results, why it’s a good idea for you as a designer, how to set it up so that it’s accurate and helpful to searchers, AND why it’s important to stay on top of the details of your GMB profile so that you can always be found in Google Local Search.

    What You’ll Hear On This Monday Marketing Minisode of Wingnut Social
    • [1:41] What IS Google My Business (and why is it important)?
    • [3:40] Why GMB is a good idea for interior designers
    • [4:58] How to set up your Google My Business account
    • [7:57] Why you need to stay on top of your GMB profile
    Resources & People Mentioned
    • Google My Business (set yours up NOW)
    You do design work in a particular area, so you need to be sure you can be found in that area

    These days most people find everything they need through a web search. That includes interior design services like yours. It’s important that your business shows up in the local results when people search for a local designer.

    Google My Business is a special service that you have to tap into beyond just having a website. When you go to their site, you can actually submit your information and get listed in their results for local businesses - stuff like your address, phone number, hours of operation - you get the idea. On this episode we share the quick and easy way to get your interior design business listed.

    Once your business is listed in Google My Business, stay on top of it

    Just a few days ago we referred someone to an architect we’ve worked with before. He does fabulous work. That person called us later in the day saying that our friend architect looks like a great person to work with but that his business is closed. We were shocked because we’d just talked to him the day before.

    The problem is that when she searched for him on Google, his local search results page said that the business was permanently closed - because he’d changed physical locations and had not updated his Google My Business profile. The same thing could happen to you if you’re not able to stay on top of your GMB listing. Don’t shoot yourself in the foot by failing to keep your business in the public eye through Google local search results. Listen to find out how!

    Connect With Darla & Wingnut Social
    • www.WingnutSocial.com
    • On Facebook
    • On Twitter: @WingnutSocial
    • On Instagram: @WingnutSocial
    • Darla’s Interior Design Website

    Subscribe to The Wingnut Social Podcast on iTunes, Google Podcasts, or TuneIn

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    Why You Should Be a DesignHound with Veronika Miller Jul 17, 2019
    Show notes

    Ever see pictures of an incredible event with, say, brands, designers, and a cupcake buffet? That was probably hosted by today’s guest, Veronika Miller, and you probably want to be a part of it.

    Veronika Miller is a kitchen and bath designer, and marketing specialist, who combined those two superpowers when she founded Modenus Media in 2010. Modenus is a marketing platform that seeks to pair designers and bloggers with forward-thinking brands. After years of hosting wildly successful blog tours, Veronika founded DesignHounds, an events and touring company that connects bloggers, designers and brands at amazing events.

    What You’ll Hear On This Episode of Wingnut Social
    • [2:25] Consultations from Instagram
    • [6:02] The Veronika Coup
    • [7:33] How she got started
    • [12:10] Twitter’s early days
    • [16:00] Veronika is not a business strategist
    • [21:15] Release the DesignHounds
    • [28:00] How designers get picked for events
    • [31:10] How to become a DesignHound
    • [26:10] Rendering converts
    • [35:00] Whut up, Wingnut?
    Connect with Veronika Miller
    • Modenus
    • DesignHounds on Instagram
    • Veronika Miller on Instagram
    Resources & People Mentioned
    • DesignHounds
    • The Goldfinch
    • Wingnut Social Media Lab
    Making Social Media Social

    Veronika was a pioneer when it came to proving the value of social media to brands. She took to Twitter when many still weren’t sure what to make of it, and was able to forge relationships there that turned into real-life friendships. Those friendships then formed the basis of what she does today: Bringing people together in real life, and connecting them at amazing events.

    One of the things Veronika became best-known for were her blog tours, that would allow designers and bloggers to connect with brands in meaningful ways. As blogging has risen and fallen over the years, she’s faded out the blog tours and moved on to creating DesignHounds, a platform that connects brands, design pros and bloggers on trips around the world.

    Connect With Darla & Wingnut Social
    • www.WingnutSocial.com
    • On Facebook
    • On Twitter: @WingnutSocial
    • On Instagram: @WingnutSocial
    • Darla’s Interior Design Website


    Subscribe to The Wingnut Social Podcast on iTunes, Google Podcasts, or TuneIn


    How to Get Your Trades on Instagram (Seriously) Jul 15, 2019
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    How to Get Your Trades on Instagram (Seriously)

    It can be hard to find the right general contractor or tradesman for your interior design projects. So today, Darla and Natalie give tips on how to find trades on, you guessed it, Instagram.

    On this week’s Marketing Monday Minisode, Darla and Natalie admit that when it comes to working with trades, they’ve kissed a few frogs and have the warts to prove it. But they found their current general contractor through Instagram. And that’s vital because then Darla can say that her firm has vetted the workers who will actually execute the project.

    Finding a great general contractor can feel impossible, but Darla did it through social media. She opened up Instagram and started searching for trades in Miami, Florida, and found contractors whose work she admired. She then DM’d them and asked them for coffee. And the important, crucial step: She trusted her gut when meeting them. And now one of the GCs she works with came from one of those meetings. But don’t ask her or Natalie who that contractor is. Those are fighting words.

    What You’ll Hear On This Episode of Wingnut Social
    • [0:55] Natalie’s birthday wishlist
    • [2:00] Question from the media lab
    • [3:00] You have to make out with some frogs
    • [5:10] Don’t share your trades with your mother
    • [6:45] Working with the trades goes both ways
    Resources & People Mentioned
    • Julie Lampe
    • Wingnut Social Media Lab
    Connect With Darla & Wingnut Social
    • www.WingnutSocial.com
    • On Facebook
    • On Twitter: @WingnutSocial
    • On Instagram: @WingnutSocial
    • Darla’s Interior Design Website


    Subscribe to The Wingnut Social Podcast on iTunes, Google Podcasts, or TuneIn


    How Outsourcing Renderings Can Save You Time and Money with Kelly Fridline Jul 10, 2019
    Show notes

    Rendering can be key for communicating with a client on how a space should look. But it’s also time-consuming and resource-intensive. Should you outsource it, and how does that work? Ace architectural artist Kelly Fridline tells Darla and Natalie.

    Kelly Fridline is an architecturally trained interior designer who specializes in providing 3D-renderings for interior designers and their clients. Kelly partners with interior designers, architects and contractors to help their clients see their vision in all its 3D glory prior to implementation. Kelly is based in Texas but works with designers from all over.

    What You’ll Hear On This Episode of Wingnut Social
    • [2:25] Consultations from Instagram
    • [4:59] How Kelly got her rendering business started
    • [8:48] Laurie’s first business
    • [10:05] How Kelly works long-distance
    • [11:50] When should renderings be used?
    • [15:05] Should you let clients keep drawings?
    • [18:00] When to work with a chief architect
    • [21:10] Renderings for marketing
    • [26:10] Rendering converts
    • [35:00] Whut up, Wingnut?
    Connect with Kelly Fridline
    • Kelly Fridline Design
    • Kelly Fridline on Facebook
    • Kelly Fridline on Instagram
    Resources & People Mentioned
    • RevIt
    • Kick Ass with Mel Robbins
    • A Knight in Shining Armor
    • Wingnut Social Media Lab
    How to work with a rendering pro

    Kelly obviously doesn’t fly around the country to visit every site for which she’s creating a rendering. So how does she create accurate renderings without being in the room? She says the more information she can get from the designers the better. So that’s room dimensions, product information, etc. She’s actually gotten pretty good at figuring out dimensions off a few bits of information, but the more you can provide the better.

    When are renderings a good thing?

    In addition to rendering designs in 3D, Kelly provides an extra layer of quality control for designers. So a designer may have a great idea, but once it’s rendered, it may look a little wonky, which allows Kelly to flag that for the designer, or the designer to change it on the fly. It’s also really great for a designer (or client) who’s having a difficult time making up their mind. By creating a 3D rendering, they can see how something would look and make a switch if necessary.

    Connect With Darla & Wingnut Social
    • www.WingnutSocial.com
    • On Facebook
    • On Twitter: @WingnutSocial
    • On Instagram: @WingnutSocial
    • Darla’s Interior Design Website


    Subscribe to The Wingnut Social Podcast on iTunes, Google Podcasts, or TuneIn


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