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Rereleasing one of DAT's most popular episodes! Kiera is joined by Tiffany at eAssist to talk all things outsourcing. eAssist is a remote dental billing company that offers a variety of services (like dental billing, patient billing, insurance verification). Together, Kiera and Tiffany touch on the following topics: How outsourcing can help increase your front office's success The best tip for following up on outstanding claims How often billing is touched in a healthy practice How to get buildups paid The rate of appeals And a ton more! Episode resources: Learn about eAssist Email learnmore@eassist.me Reach out to Kiera Practice Momentum Group Consulting Subscribe to The Dental A-Team podcast Become Dental A-Team Platinum! Transcript: The Dental A Team (00:51.47) Hello, Dental A Team listeners. This is Kiera. And you guys, I don't know about you, but billing was my absolute arch nemesis in a dental practice. So I'm super excited with our guests today. They run one of the companies we actually recommend and refer all the time, eAssist. If you guys haven't heard about them, they are fantastic. You can outsource your dental billing. And I am always pro doing that. You can call me lazy. You can call me efficient, whatever you want to call me. Honestly, I'm so jazzed to have Tiffany, Tiffany with E -assist on the podcast today. Tiffany, how are you? I am so good. Thank you so much for having me on here. It's awesome. Yeah, absolutely. We were just chatting about a good old Kansas city. What took you to Kansas city? I should have asked you, but like, let's just air it to the whole team or the whole podcast crew. What took you to Kansas city? I actually was born and raised in liberal Kansas. It's a small town, Southwest Kansas. and then went to school at K state and then moved here. I lived in Denver for a little bit and then ended up coming back. Do you miss Denver? I worked in Denver for a while. Or are you like, Nope. Cause Kansas city has way better sports. mean, you guys just crushed the, you know, March madness. So kudos to you guys. Happy. I'm sure the whole city was like, that's something I do love about Kansas city. It's like a raving city when it comes to sports, you guys love your sports team. So do you miss Denver? You happy with Kansas city? Like, how does that work? I love Colorado. It's gorgeous. When I lived there, my kids were little, so I feel like I didn't really get to, I don't know, explore and, you know, really be involved with all the things that I would like to do. But, and, and one of my best friends lives there, so that's kind of sad to be away from her. But I do love, I love me some Kansas City. We've got good people here. Good people, good food, good sports. I mean, you got the whole shebang. Guys, if you're looking for a good place to go, Kansas City, appears is a great place or Denver, but real topic, Tiffany, kind of walk us through, like if people haven't heard of eAssist, kind of just give us a background on what eAssist is. And then I really want to talk today about how outsourcing billing can help with admin teams because right now we are in the great resignation. Hiring is probably one of the hardest things. And so I think it's a really, really pertinent topic. So tell us a little bit about who eAssist is, what they do, just so people know about what your company The Dental A Team (03:07.864) Yeah, so eAssist is a remote dental billing company that offers a variety of different services. So we do dental billing where you'll have a dedicated team for your office that remotes in and submits all of your claims and attachments and whatnot, and then comes in and posts all of your payments. We also have a patient billing, which then handles things from that point on. where they are sending statements and following up on past due accounts with patients. We also offer insurance verification, which anybody that's It's been so long. I've been waiting for you guys to get to insurance verification. like to hear this, I'm just jazzed because that takes so much time. So thank you. Yes, it's amazing. For some reason, there are unicorns out there who actually enjoy doing insurance verification. And thankfully we have them. It is a weird - talent to obsess, but I'm glad that they do it. I mean, you can really crank that stuff out if you're like on it and that's what you do. I had a girl that I used to work with and she's like, Kiera, I get paid like for all of my, I've just learned how to do it. She like was so fast at it. And I thought, wow, there you go. Like you can have a free day and get all your insurance is verified. She was so quick. So I'm glad you guys have that now. That's awesome. Yeah, well, and it's a easier when that's your only task that you're taking care of, you know, and you're not having to answer the phone or schedule new patients and get all that information or checking patients in there out or working up treatment plans and you know, the list goes on. So insurance verification does, it can be a huge time sucker if you will, but it's also literally the number one missed dental billing And in my opinion, it is one of the most paramount pieces of dental billing because if we don't verify, then patients ask us questions. We're not as confident when we treatment plan, even though everybody knows we do not treatment plan based on insurance. But if they're going to ask me what their insurance is estimated to cover, and I haven't found that information out, I get fumbly. I'm not as confident. Patient's not as confident. And good information in, good information out. You can send cleaner claims, get paid faster. The Dental A Team (05:22.126) it's just, yes, I'm such a pro. Like don't, don't skip it. It does. Yeah, it, has, actually the number two reason why patients leave a dental practice is, because they have lost their trust because they've gotten an inaccurate treatment plan. So insurance verification is the way to, really make sure that the, the, the quotes that we're, giving to patients are as close, as close to true as possible. I mean, with insurance, you know, anything can happen, Yeah. What is the number one reason you've got me like questioning? You number two is due to loss of trust on treatment. What's the number one reason people leave practices? it is because they feel neglected. Interesting. Okay. They don't feel taken care of. Yeah. I talk to people about that all the time. Like what, what can we do today to help our patients, feel safe, seen and heard. Interesting. I like it. I like it a lot. There you guys go like I feel like that was like Dettol Tidbit 101, Tiffany. Thank you for that. But yes, so I am a huge proponent of eAssist. And the reason why I've just fallen in love with you guys is because you do it really well and you have to keep people hired and staffed and I don't have to deal with it. So I think especially right now, so many offices are just realizing like we don't have manpower out there. mean, I ran up, oh gosh, I could be totally lying on this number, but it was about this amount. I'm thinking I'm a little erring on the side of less than more, but I think I ran up a bill of over 12 grand last year on Indeed ads, trying to hire people. And I think that's a pretty hefty cost to try to hire people that weren't out there. Now it's starting to kind of shift, but at the same time, people get sick, people have kids, people have work problems, people have car problems, people get COVID, people get COVID exposures, people The list goes on and on and I just love that e -assist. Like you guys have to deal with that. You guys, I'm sure struggle with it, but me as the client and the practice, I don't have to deal with that turnover when I outsource. So let's kind of talk through this about how outsourcing really can help increase your front office's game and make it easier for them and just have more consistency on the billing side. Sure. mean, you know, it really all, like we said, starts with insurance verification and that takes up so The Dental A Team (07:41.486) time. And we really want to do everything that we can to really create that ultimate patient experience, which as I said before, it's making them feel seen and heard. And you can't, they don't feel seen and heard when you're on hold with the insurance company and the patient walks in and you're not standing up to greet them or see how they're doing because you don't want to hang up because you were just on hold for like 30 minutes. And then it's like, there's no Right? Like you just, it's like, you're weighing the pros and cons. Like what's it worth right now? Because I know that they can't really work up a treatment plan unless I get this done. does the patient even want to go back and be seated if I don't look at them and smile when they walk in the door. So yeah, that's for sure. And then really helping to submit clean claims. So a lot of times, claims are generated and they're put in the queue. And if you're sending them electronically, know, they go out the, they go out and over to insurance to be adjudicated or whatnot. But people are opening up those claims and looking at all the information to make sure that it's accurate, that the codes that are being submitted are actually the correct codes, that there are radiographs attached, intra -oral photos, narratives, clinical notes, period charting. There's just so many things that go into that, in making sure that that click, that claim that's going out is clean and it looks good and everything is being sent the very, very first time. Otherwise, you know, it takes time for claims to be processed and that's just longer and longer that there's money that's not going into the bank. So for sure. And I think it's interesting how you talked about this. Cause I remember I was consulting in a practice. And the gal who was over billing, I said, okay, perfect. Like our AR is really high. Let's look at this. Like why are our accounts receivable so high? And a lot of it was actually insurance. And I said, Hey, we're having like a lot of these insurance claims come back. looks like. And she said, Kiera, it takes way more time to actually check my claims before I send them out. So I just send them out and then I wait for them to come back and then I fix them. The Dental A Team (10:01.998) No! That was due. response was the same as mine. I was like, it actually will save you lots of hours, like tons of hours, if you'll make sure your information's clean before it goes out. That way when it comes back in, we have less and less and less. Dirty claims is what I call them. Like if you have to resubmit, I call that a dirty claim. We like we want clean claims, always clean claims, only clean claims. We want to get paid quickly. I'm like a one and done type girl. do one take podcasts recording 99 % of the time. Like that's how I feel your insurance claim should be. So people who say, oh, that's too much time, Tiffany. I don't want to actually take the time to make sure everything's attached correctly. I'm just going to send it out to get it done. And then whatever comes back, I'll deal with it. And I'm like, oh man. That just like gives me anxiety. I know it's like making me want to throw up a little bit, but yeah, it's a really big deal to make sure that those are going out as clean claims. Now things can happen, right? Like sometimes things will get kicked back. So another really good thing that ESS does is they make sure that you're following up on those outstanding claims on a regular basis. So I can't tell you how many dental offices that I've gone into and I'm running that outstanding claims report. And it's massively long. And I'm asking them, when's the last time, you know, that you looked at this? And sometimes they've never run the report to begin with. I didn't even know that it existed. Or they say, oh, I do that once a month. I print the report like at the beginning of the month and then I work through it. So yeah, best practice is to follow up on every single outstanding claim every 14 days. You gotta touch everyone. Yeah. Yes. So I'm gonna ask because let's just like, let's give offices like above and beyond today. What are your favorite billing reports to run? Like what do you suggest? What's kind of the frequency you suggest? So in case an office is like, no Tiff, I've got this. I'm gonna just call you Tiff because we have a Tiff. I hope that that, like that just got real close right there. But they're just gonna say, you know, I think I can do this in my practice, which I'm all for. If you guys can do this in your practices, rock on. The Dental A Team (12:10.958) I just think outsourcing can free up a lot of manpower to do other things. So what's kind of the cadence of reports that you guys recommend people run? How often, like you just said, run your unsent claims report or all your claims. Like look at those, like every 14 days. But what else do you guys run? What's the cadence? What's the frequency? Just so people get an idea of how often their billing should be touched in a healthy practice. Yeah. So you're, you're going to want to run your, uh, production and collections and look at those numbers. I like to do that every single day. I wanna look and see what has come in and like what production has been done, how much we've actually collected on. And then definitely on a weekly basis, if you have weekly team meetings, I know there's different schools of thought on that and I don't wanna get into the practice. I'm pro weekly, you're good. Okay, good, I love it. So I would always touch bases to review all the numbers with the team on a weekly basis. I think it's important for the team to know what the numbers are. That's how they cash their paychecks. That's how they get paid. And I think it creates incentive to help them work a little harder and kind of have some buy -in as far as that goes. And then definitely on a monthly basis. So the average dental practice has a collection ratio. of 91%. So that means they're only collecting 91 % of money that is rightfully theirs to be collecting to begin with. Whereas - just that a quick personal connection. If your paycheck, if I decide to only pay you 91 % of your paycheck, you wouldn't be super happy about that. You'd be like, what the heck? You ripped me off. Pay me right. People get pissed because they have to pay taxes all the time. I'm like, so that's like rightful money for your practice that's going to help your practice grow and evolve. And it's just because we didn't like look into it. I agree. Like my, I get it. I don't expect people to be perfect. I did just interview a girl and we give scenarios for a consultant. And I said, we asked the question of like, what do you think is a healthy collection percentage? And she wrote back and she said a hundred percent. And yes, it can be done. And I'm like, dang, watch out guys. If she gets hired. The Dental A Team (14:21.934) that those offices are going be pushing 100%. I'll give a little bit of grace. do 98%. I don't know what your number is, Tiffany, but. 98%, right? Yeah. I don't expect perfect, right? 90, I mean, we always say, like at ESS, we say we want to help you collect 100 % of what is rightfully owed to…
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