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    Cults to Consciousness

    For the curious & compassionate. Firsthand Survivor Stories of escaping cults, high-control groups & people. 

    The Cults to Consciousness Podcast (and YouTube channel) is Hosted by Shelise Ann Sola (a former devout Mormon / CSA survivor) and her Producer husband, Jonathan Rosales. Not anti-religious but firmly anti-abuse, they aim to shed light on manipulative practices and systems, while promoting understanding and accountability. C2C has attracted a kind and engaged community who thoughtfully support their guests. Hit follow to join them on their advocacy mission! 

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    Daughters Confront Past with Former Polygamist Mother Sep 23, 2025
    Show notes

    The Lebaron group fled the US after being excommunicated from the Mormon church for still practicing polygamy. While in Mexico, the group split and the Ervilite side started implementing blood atonement in an attempt to wipe out the other. Pamela Jones grew up in fear that the Ervilites would come for them any moment. To escape the extreme abuse, she got married at 15, not realizing she was entering into the Ervilite family. Her husband went on to marry 5 other women while keeping her and her family in forced poverty, even restricting water. Today we speak with two of Pamela's daughters who give us their perspective on the cult and fleeing to the US to start a new life.

    Click here to watch on YouTube

    Watch part 1 of Pamela’s interview

    Watch part 2 of Pamela’s interview

    Find Pamela!

    Pamela’s website: www.Pamelaspeaks.live

    Pamela’s book: The Dirt Beneath Our Door https://www.pamelaspeaks.live/book

    Pamela’s Podcast: Wicked Confessions Uncensored

    https://www.wickedconfessionsuncensored.com/

    Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel!

    Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.

    Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here!

    Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness

    Venmo @sheliseann

    Find us on Social media!

    Instagram @cultstoconsciousness

    Host Instagram @sheliseann

    Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_

    TikTok @cults.to.consciousness

    Twitter @cultstocon

    **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**

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    I Worked for a Predatory Vampyre Cult Leader in NYC Sep 22, 2025
    Show notes

    Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel!

    Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.

    Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here!

    Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness

    Venmo @sheliseann

    Find us on Social media!

    Instagram @cultstoconsciousness

    Host Instagram @sheliseann

    Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_

    TikTok @cults.to.consciousness

    Twitter @cultstocon

    **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.**

    See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.


    Predatory Vampyre Cult Leader Exploits Vulnerable High Priestess on Altar Sep 19, 2025
    Show notes

    In the Vampyre community that Father S was the head of, it was sometimes the case that the group rituals and spiritual practices were manipulated into something far more insidious. Khassa and Ashra describe what happened at the group ceremony called Babyl*n. They were each told something different by Father S about the intention of the ceremony concerning Khassa’s role. In the end, Khassa was severely compromised by him and left questioning everything.

    Click here to watch on YouTube

    Watch Khassa + Ashra's interviews:

    https://youtu.be/R3SbSxyFews?si=JgIM7Uw8sLKM7l8C

    https://youtu.be/nivycAxCicE?si=du7_tIyQB03UNQTg

    Follow Khassa + Ashra on social media:

    IG: https://www.instagram.com/liana_elizabeth_omar/

    IG: https://www.instagram.com/ashraduvide/

    Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel!

    Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.

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    Venmo @sheliseann

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    Instagram @cultstoconsciousness

    Host Instagram @sheliseann

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    TikTok @cults.to.consciousness

    Twitter @cultstocon

    **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.**

    See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.


    Groomed & Preyed on by Infamous Vampyre Cult Leader ft. Ashra Sep 19, 2025
    Show notes

    Ashra was looking for a sense of community and understanding when she came into contact with Father S, the most public face of the Vampyre community. Eager to learn from him, she entered into a mentor/mentee relationship. Things would eventually devolve into conversations about sex magick and rituals that he wanted her to be a part of. She didn’t realize she was being groomed to be one of his many girlfriends. He would go on to tell her what to wear and confessed he liked dressing his girls like dolls. Ashra would also end up being exploited for her labor, expected to proofread and edit one of his manuscripts for free. After leaving and being lured back in, she would finally make her escape in 2024.

    Click here to watch on YouTube

    Follow Ashra on social media:

    IG: @ashraduvide

    Watch Khassa and Ashra's follow up LIVE interview

    Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel!

    Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.

    Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here!

    Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness

    Venmo @sheliseann

    Find us on Social media!

    Instagram @cultstoconsciousness

    Host Instagram @sheliseann

    Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_

    TikTok @cults.to.consciousness

    Twitter @cultstocon

    **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.**

    See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.


    High Priestess Exposes Insidious Vampyre Cult Leader ft. Khassa Sep 18, 2025
    Show notes

    Growing up, Khassa’ Kaikesi's mother felt plagued by her abilities as a medium. Even though Khassa came from a long line of Magickal practitioners, when she started understanding her own gifts, she was left with no support and felt isolated. She was bullied for her practices and attended 4 different high schools because of it. Once introduced to Vampyrism, the spiritualism resonated and she found herself meeting “the face” and fang master of the Vampyre community, Father S. He quickly showed romantic interest, but Khassa tried to keep her distance as she sensed something was off about him. Serious about her practice and interested in building a community, she set aside her fears about him to help create the inner circle. After a few years, things would take a dark turn and lines between spirituality and self serving ego would be blurred, leaving Khassa as one of many women who would be taken advantage of in more ways than one. For the first time, Khassa steps into the light to expose the inner workings of Father S’s Vampyre community.

    Click here to watch on YouTube

    Find Khassa on social media:

    IG: https://www.instagram.com/liana_elizabeth_omar/

    Watch Khassa and Ashra's follow up LIVE interview: https://www.youtube.com/live/t3jPKLfNhKA?si=ZJ66QhPV88vtQFEc

    Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel!

    Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.

    Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here!

    Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness

    Venmo @sheliseann

    Find us on Social media!

    Instagram @cultstoconsciousness

    Host Instagram @sheliseann

    Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_

    TikTok @cults.to.consciousness

    Twitter @cultstocon

    **Disclaimer: This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.**

    See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.


    Escaping Mexico's LeBaron Cult: Not Allowed to Read or Write to Multi Millionaire Sep 17, 2025
    Show notes

    After 34 years of being abandoned, neglected, and brainwashed, Pamela Jones and her nine children escaped a fundamentalist cult out of Mexico and fled to a new life in the US. She had 2 cars and nothing more than $5 and two credit cards which she didn’t know how to use. Her biggest challenge was acclimating to a life of leadership and tasks she was never allowed to do in the cult. Getting the courage to order food at a drive through was her first huge undertaking. Pamela shares her struggles with helping her children learn in a public school, finding ways to feed and shelter her family, including almost joining an even more insidious polygamous group, and slowly finding her voice and value as a woman. She would go on to found a multimillion-dollar business, Exclusive Services by MyGirls, and has shared her story across the country to show how someone who came from nothing can truly have everything. Her family has grown to include 32 grandchildren, keeping Pamela busier, and more fulfilled, than ever.

    Watch part one (linked below) to learn more about her life growing up in isolation, hiding from a bl*od thirsty rival church and getting married off at 15 to escape her own familial abuse.

    Click here to watch on YouTube

    Watch pt 1

    Watch part 3 with Pamela and her daughters

    Find Pamela!

    Pamela’s website: www.Pamelaspeaks.live

    Pamela’s book: The Dirt Beneath Our Door https://www.pamelaspeaks.live/book

    Pamela’s Podcast: Wicked Confessions Uncensored

    https://www.wickedconfessionsuncensored.com/

    Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel!

    Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.

    Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here!

    Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness

    Venmo @sheliseann

    Find us on Social media!

    Instagram @cultstoconsciousness

    Host Instagram @sheliseann

    Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_

    TikTok @cults.to.consciousness

    Twitter @cultstocon

    **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**

    Chapter Marks

    00:00:00 Intro

    00:05:26 Discovering How To Live in America

    00:10:14 Practicing Reading & Writing

    00:15:12 The Order Cult Almost Recruits Pamela!

    00:22:59 The Struggles of Putting Her ChiIdren in Public Education

    00:28:17 Starting Her Business & How Her Influence Caused More Women to Leave

    00:37:25 Deconstructing the Religion

    00:43:53 Realizations After Leaving the Cult

    00:51:11 The Steps Pamela Continually Took to Heal

    00:55:56 CW: CSA from her brother

    00:59:08 The Ways Cult Survivors Choose to Heal

    01:04:53 The Beginning of Pamela’s Business & Where It's at Now

    01:12:29 Finding Love After Being So Mistreated in Pamela’s First Marriage

    01:23:40 Pamela's Shares About Her ChiIdren

    01:29:50 Final Thoughts and Linda Listen

    See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.


    Lebaron Polygamist Cult: How She Became a 15 yr Old Plural Wife in Mexico (Living in a Sheep Pen) Sep 17, 2025
    Show notes

    Pamela Jones was born in Los Molinos, Mexico to members of the Church of the Firstborn of the Fullness of Times, a fundamentalist, misogynistic cult. She was the 11th of her abusIve father’s 57 biological children and 2nd of her mother’s thirteen children and it was from that moment on that Pamela held one single belief: She existed for one reason and one reason only, to be her eventual husband’s handmaid and to bear him as many children as possible. Fast forward to age 10, Pamela was forced out of school to help her mom care for her 12 children, giving her nothing more than a fifth-grade education.

    At age 15, Pamela married David Lebaron, the grandson of cult founder Alma Dayer LeBaron Jr. and was pregnant 17 times in 18 years. After 9 childbirths and 8 miscarriages, Pamela felt she had enough children to make it to heaven, a fundamentalist belief. One day, she awoke her nine children to escape the neglect and ab*se from her husband, and make their way to the United States to start a new life.

    Click here to watch on YouTube

    Watch part 2 of Pamela’s interview

    Watch part 3 with Pamela and her daughters

    Find Pamela!

    Pamela’s website: www.Pamelaspeaks.live

    Pamela’s book: The Dirt Beneath Our Door https://www.pamelaspeaks.live/book

    Pamela’s Podcast: Wicked Confessions Uncensored

    https://www.wickedconfessionsuncensored.com/

    Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel!

    Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.

    Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here!

    Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness

    Venmo @sheliseann

    Find us on Social media!

    Instagram @cultstoconsciousness

    Host Instagram @sheliseann

    Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_

    TikTok @cults.to.consciousness

    Twitter @cultstocon

    **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**

    Chapter Marks


    00:00:00 Intro

    00:10:31 CW: Murd*r, Pamela Explains the Practices of Blood Atonement and How it Impacted Her ChiIdhood

    00:15:08 Pamela Talks about the Raid on Los Molinos & Her Role of a Mother from an Early Age

    00:22:15 CW: CA, The Ways Pamela’s Father Controlled and Ab*sed Her

    00:28:14 Pamela Shares More About Her Father

    00:33:58 Pamela’s Father’s Reaction to Her Meeting Her Husband

    00:39:30 How Quickly Pamela’s Husband Changed on Her

    00:43:44 Pamela’s Husband's Actions and Infidelity

    00:49:09 How Pamela Was Treated as a Polygamous Wife

    00:54:16 Pamela Makes Plans to Leave Her Husband and the Cult

    01:02:30 CW: Mentions of R*pe, Pamela’s Father Supports Her Against Her Husband

    01:09:48 Pamela’s Escape Story

    01:18:12 Pamela’s Experiences After Leaving Mexico & The Fear that Gripped Her

    01:26:01 Final Thoughts and Linda Listen

    See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.


    TwinRay Cult: Secretly Dosing Devout Followers to Sell Them Expensive Magic Merch Sep 15, 2025
    Show notes

    Demetria is a survivor of an Oregon New Age group called TwinRay. She describes her journey into spirituality after reading Eckhart Tolle's works and being drawn to an online guru who claimed to have achieved spiritual liberation and later claimed he wasn’t even human. He introduced a woman (a former actress) to the leadership and claimed they were 'twin rays' with special spiritual knowledge. Demetria paid these self appointed Gurus $17,000 extra for life coaching and they put her on an all-fruit and charcoal pudding diet for 6 months, on top of charging $9,000 retreats where attendees were given a mysterious 'elixir’, later discovered to be DM.T. Once everyone was in an elevated state and under the influence, they would then make sales pitches for expensive products and future retreats. It was clear that the Twin Rays were living in luxury while their followers were exploited, used for labor, and not given a second thought.

    Click here to watch on YouTube

    Follow Demetria on Substack: Demetriam.substack.com

    Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel!

    Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.

    Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here!

    Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness

    Venmo @sheliseann

    Find us on Social media!

    Instagram @cultstoconsciousness

    Host Instagram @sheliseann

    Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_

    TikTok @cults.to.consciousness

    Twitter @cultstocon

    **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**

    See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.


    OneTaste Org*sm Cult: He Stole My Virginity with Intention to Impregnate and Entrap Me Sep 12, 2025
    Show notes

    Feeling worthless as a young single adult in the Mormon church, Katie was sucked into a relationship with a “worthy priesthood holder” from her ward. Once he discovered her SA, a trauma that others were blaming and shaming her for, he claimed he could cure her using OneTaste’s Orgasmic Meditation. Vulnerable and left in the dark with all things sex related, he groomed her into thinking she needed these sessions with him to release her trauma. Unbeknownst to Katie, OneTaste was another cult who was pushing harmful ideas about SA, exploiting women and much worse. These harmful practices and ideologies combined with his predatory nature, led him to steal her virginity while she was unconscious having a seizure. He later admitted to purposely impregnating her so she would be forced to marry him. Barely 18, with no real support, Katie was left picking up the pieces while continuously being monitored and berated by the Mormon ran Brigham Young University’s honor code office.

    Click here to watch on YouTube

    Watch pt 1 of Katie’s interview


    Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel!

    Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.

    Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here!

    Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness

    Venmo @sheliseann

    Find us on Social media!

    Instagram @cultstoconsciousness

    Host Instagram @sheliseann

    Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_

    TikTok @cults.to.consciousness

    Twitter @cultstocon

    **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**

    See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.


    How a “Tainted” Molly Mormon Was TARGETED for the OneTaste Orgasm Cult Sep 11, 2025
    Show notes

    Born and raised in a Mormon majority town, Katie was doing her best to be the most righteous and worthy Mormon she could be. Everything came crashing down when she was blamed by her mother and shamed by her bishop for being SA’d. They claimed her “purity was tainted” and she needed to repent. Upon graduation, she went to the Young Single Adults ward, where she was primed to be targeted by a “worthy priesthood holder” who tried to lure her into an orgasm cult with promises to “fix” her sexual trauma.

    Click here to watch on YouTube

    Watch pt 2 of Katie’s interview

    Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel!

    Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.

    Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here!

    Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness

    Venmo @sheliseann

    Find us on Social media!

    Instagram @cultstoconsciousness

    Host Instagram @sheliseann

    Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_

    TikTok @cults.to.consciousness

    Twitter @cultstocon

    **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.*

    See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.


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