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    Cults to Consciousness

    For the curious & compassionate. Firsthand Survivor Stories of escaping cults, high-control groups & people. 

    The Cults to Consciousness Podcast (and YouTube channel) is Hosted by Shelise Ann Sola (a former devout Mormon / CSA survivor) and her Producer husband, Jonathan Rosales. Not anti-religious but firmly anti-abuse, they aim to shed light on manipulative practices and systems, while promoting understanding and accountability. C2C has attracted a kind and engaged community who thoughtfully support their guests. Hit follow to join them on their advocacy mission! 

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    Latest Episodes:
    Lured into the TWELVE TRIBES (Yellow Deli) Cult Oct 07, 2025
    Show notes

    Lured into the TWELVE TRIBES (Yellow Deli) Cult

    TIMESTAMPS UNAVAILABLE FOR THIS EPISODE

    Tamara Mathieu was a new mother in a scary world where Columbine had just happened. Romanticizing a simple life and craving safety for her family, she began visiting the Twelve Tribes. She noticed a village raising the well behaved chiIdren, homemade food and happy families. Feeling alone, isolated and overwhelmed at home with her baby, she spent more and more time at their compounds. She was welcomed with open arms, given gift baskets and the women loved her chiId. It felt like home. She convinced her husband to leave his high paying job, sell their home and all their belongings and completely leave their modern life behind to move into the Twelve Tribes. Assigned one bedroom for their family, everything changed once they moved in. Work became excruciating, chiId discipline expectations were extreme and Tamara would see her husband even less than before. Regret set in, but it was too late. She wouldn’t escape the community until 14 years later.

    Click here to watch on YouTube

    Watch pt 2

    Watch the interview with Tamara's son, Emmet

    Find Tamara!

    FB: Tamara Mathieu Author

    IG: https://www.instagram.com/tamaramathieu4/

    Book: All Who Believed

    Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel!

    Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.

    Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here!

    Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness

    Venmo @sheliseann

    Find us on Social media!

    Instagram @cultstoconsciousness

    Host Instagram @sheliseann

    Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_

    TikTok @cults.to.consciousness

    Twitter @cultstocon

    **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**

    See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.


    She Silenced Whistleblowers of Abusive Evangelical Academy, Then Became One (Why She Flipped) Oct 06, 2025
    Show notes

    Featured in the Shiny Happy People 2 doc-series, Cindy was deep in evangelical nationalism when she was hired as head of PR to silence whistleblowers from the Honor Academy at Teen Mania. She was told they were simply disgruntled chiIdren who were lying to defame the massive enterprise. Years later, she would realize, not only were the alumni telling the truth, but the upper management knew about the tort*re the chiIdren went through and did nothing to stop it, or change their practices for the following group. In fact, it was all part of the system to break the will of the interns and mold them into warriors for Jesus so they could penetrate all facets of society and create a Christian nation. Once Cindy’s eyes were opened, she took all their insider financial information to a news station to blast the story to the world.

    Click here to watch on YouTube

    Email Cindy: CindyMallette@gmail.com

    Watch the interview with Mica Ringo

    Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel!

    Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.

    Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here!

    Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness

    Venmo @sheliseann

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    Instagram @cultstoconsciousness

    Host Instagram @sheliseann

    Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_

    TikTok @cults.to.consciousness

    Twitter @cultstocon

    **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**

    See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.


    Why Fanatical Worldwide MINISTRIES Was Terrified of Silenced Alumni Speaking Out Oct 03, 2025
    Show notes

    Mica Ringo was heavily invested in Teen Mania and went through the whole program completely ignoring xyr inner voice of authenticity. Being yourself was never an option in a group that specifically molds teens to be extremist warriors for Jesus. The program was grueling and even abusive in an attempt to break down the character of teens coming in. Mica would go on to create the Recovering Alumni blog which would lead to the fall of Teen Mania Ministries!

    Click here to watch on YouTube

    Find Mica on social media:

    IG: https://www.instagram.com/mx.micaringo/

    Website: https://www.micaringo.com

    Watch the interview with Cindy Mallette, the person hired to silence Mica

    Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel!

    Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.

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    Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness

    Venmo @sheliseann

    Find us on Social media!

    Instagram @cultstoconsciousness

    Host Instagram @sheliseann

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    TikTok @cults.to.consciousness

    Twitter @cultstocon

    **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**

    Chapter Marks

    00:00:00 intro

    00:05:46 Mica's upbringing

    00:09:38 Things that lead Mica on the path towards Team Mania

    00:15:27 Navigating Mica's s*xuality within purity culture

    00:17:53 Mica's involvement in Team Mania

    00:27:36 The Honor Academy

    00:45:09 Mica's blog

    00:56:55 Mica's Marriage & deconstruction

    01:09:44 Mica goes to the press

    01:15:04 Linda, listen

    01:16:12 What brings Mica joy now

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    5 Women from 5 AMISH Settlements Compare Notes Oct 02, 2025
    Show notes

    TIMESTAMPS UNAVAILABLE FOR THIS EPISODE

    Celebrating 250 episodes with these 5 incredible women! We explore ways in which different Amish and sometimes Mennonite settlements had the same methods of control and even ab*se. We cover their rules, restrictions, medical allowances (or lack thereof), why CSA is rampant and how the perpetr*tors are often protected rather than truly held accountable. The stories and wisdom are beautifully shared amongst survivors supporting each other. They also share ways in which they believe women can take back their power in or outside a cult and gain clarity and freedom.

    Click here to watch on YouTube

    Find and support our guests!

    Lizzie Hershberger

    Swartzentruber AMISH: The Unknown SINISTER Side of the Strictist Settlement

    Swartzentruber AMISH: Seeking JUSTICE Against the Strictest Settlement

    Resources: https://www.theplainpeoplespodcast.com/resource

    Her book: “Behind Blue Curtains: A True Crime Memoir of an Amish Woman’s Survival, Escape, and Pursuit of Justice”

    Website: https://www.lizziehershberger.com/

    IG @lizzie.hershberger


    Naomi Swartzentruber

    AMISH: How Growing Up in the Strictest Settlement Led to Dr*gs and S*x Work

    Naomi’s book: The Amazing Adventures of an Amish Stripper

    IG & TT: @AmishInspiration

    https://www.instagram.com/AmishInspiration

    https://www.tiktok.com/@amishinspiration

    FB: https://www.facebook.com/share/1Aq4Tw6q9h/?mibextid=wwXIfr


    Elizabeth Hilty

    AMISH: Her Unlicensed Midwives Used Veterinary Tools

    Connect with Elizabeth on Facebook


    Meg Delagrange-Belfon

    “Sins of the Amish” Doc: Darker Details than They Were Willing to Release on TV

    Her artwork: https://www.coloringspirit.com/

    Her Blog: https://blendedmix.life/

    IG: @coloringspirit

    Plain Anna


    Mary Byler

    AMISH Woman "Sinned" by Taking Her Brothers to Court for SA

    Mary's Website: https://www.themisfitamish.com/amishresources

    IG @plainrainbows_mary


    Mary's Book: Reflections and Memories of An Amish Misfit: "My therapist says that’s not true, but I digress"

    Fb: https://www.facebook.com/Mary.A.Byler/

    TikTok: the.misfit.amish

    Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel!

    Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.

    Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here!

    Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness

    Venmo @sheliseann

    Find us on Social media!

    Instagram @cultstoconsciousness

    Host Instagram @sheliseann

    Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_

    TikTok @cults.to.consciousness

    Twitter @cultstocon

    **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**

    See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.


    Why Teens are Being Weaponized & Trained for “End Times” Martyrdom (ft. April Ajoy) Oct 01, 2025
    Show notes

    Following up our initial interview with the incredible April Ajoy, we go LIVE with her to further discuss her upbringing as a Christian Nation*list, in which they drilled into teens a persecution complex that would put their life on the line as a declared “believer”. Fresh off the heels of “Shiny Happy People: Teenage Holy War”, April is a successful content creator and podcast host, sharing stories from her past and how she flipped a 180 in her thinking and way of life.

    Click here to watch on YouTube

    Watch April’s initial interview

    Find April:

    Book: Star-Spangled Jesus

    IG: https://www.instagram.com/aprilajoy/

    Podcast: The Tim and April Show

    Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel!

    Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.

    Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here!

    Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness

    Venmo @sheliseann

    Find us on Social media!

    Instagram @cultstoconsciousness

    Host Instagram @sheliseann

    Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_

    TikTok @cults.to.consciousness

    Twitter @cultstocon

    **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**

    See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.


    Mormon Church Loses Appeal After Failure to Report CSA (abuse continued 4 years) ft. Kolby Reddish Sep 30, 2025
    Show notes

    Last month the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints lost an appeal to remain blameless in the case of two bishops not reporting egregious acts of CSA in the state of Arizona. Today we go in depth with former guest and current lawyer Kolby Reddish to further discuss the case and potential legal outcome.

    Click here to watch on YouTube

    Check out our interviews with Kolby:

    Mormon Church SUED for Not Reporting Unspeakable Confessions (the Verdict) ft. Kolby Reddish

    Mormonism On Trial: Ex-Mormon Lawyer Challenges Truth Claims

    How a Mormon Lawyer Lost His Faith Ft. Kolby Reddish

    Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel!

    Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.

    Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here!

    Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness

    Venmo @sheliseann

    Find us on Social media!

    Instagram @cultstoconsciousness

    Host Instagram @sheliseann

    Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_

    TikTok @cults.to.consciousness

    Twitter @cultstocon

    **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**

    See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.


    Taken Back to “The Family” Cult Commune After Mass Police Raid Sep 29, 2025
    Show notes

    After escaping the COG cult in Australia with her husband, Maria Esguerra spent years in higher education so she could become a psychologist and better understand her past. Her mission now is to help other survivors of high control groups and people, move through their trauma and find healing in understanding. She is even doing her best to help legally forge a path for those who are victims of coercive control and help the courts understand that crimes are not always so black and white. Our discussion covers the ways in which children's wiring is not only affected, but hijacked, when growing up in dangerous and or high control cults.

    Click here to watch on YouTube

    Find and Support Maria!

    The Olive Leaf Network:

    Linktr.ee https://linktr.ee/Mariaesguerra

    IG @cultpsyc

    TikTok: @mariaesguerra13

    FB: https://www.facebook.com/maria.esguerra.75436

    DeCult: www.decult.net

    Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel!

    Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.

    Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here!

    Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness

    Venmo @sheliseann

    Find us on Social media!

    Instagram @cultstoconsciousness

    Host Instagram @sheliseann

    Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_

    TikTok @cults.to.consciousness

    Twitter @cultstocon

    **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**



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    Why Daughter of Famous Evangelist Pastor Speaks Out AGAINST Her Childhood Teachings Sep 26, 2025
    Show notes

    Fresh off the heels of “Shiny Happy People: Teenage Holy War” we sit with April Ajoy. She wouldn’t have called herself a Christian Nation*list when she performed her original song “America Say Jesus” on the Jim Bakker show, or when she participated in Jesus Marches across America. April just considered herself a good Christian: faithful, and determined to make America a Christian nation once again. But as her view of the world widened, and she was faced with loss, grief and confronting beliefs, she began to take a closer look at the ideology she fiercely defended and preached herself. A successful content creator and podcast host, April shares stories from her past and how she flipped a 180 in her thinking and way of life.

    Click here to watch on YouTube

    Find April:

    Book: Star-Spangled Jesus https://www.amazon.com/dp/1546006680

    IG: @aprilajoy

    Podcast: The Tim and April Show

    Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel!

    Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.

    Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here!

    Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness

    Venmo @sheliseann

    Find us on Social media!

    Instagram @cultstoconsciousness

    Host Instagram @sheliseann

    Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_

    TikTok @cults.to.consciousness

    Twitter @cultstocon

    **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**

    See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.


    Shiny Happy People 2: Re-living Teenage Torture at Honor Academy Sep 25, 2025
    Show notes

    Featured in the new and second season of Shiny Happy People, Dani was determined to live a life dedicated to Jesus as a young teen. She attended Acquire the Fire events in her early years which eventually led her to officially joining the Teen Mania Honor Academy program. She spent years paying thousands to work for free to travel on a bus and put on these huge events weekends at a time. She would even hang lights as crew, before putting on hour long productions as an actress and singer. At the height of her seniority, someone in the town snitched on her for kissing a boy and her whole world came to a screeching halt. Her friends were no longer allowed to see or speak with her and her unpaid, yet highly coveted position at the Honor Academy was stripped away. Learn more about her journey of working her way back in, with a heavy heart, before finally unraveling it all years later.

    Click here to watch on YouTube

    Find Dani on social media:

    IG: @daniroccamusic

    IG: @theworldinlights

    TT: @danirocamusic

    Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel!

    Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.

    Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here!

    Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness

    Venmo @sheliseann

    Find us on Social media!

    Instagram @cultstoconsciousness

    Host Instagram @sheliseann

    Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_

    TikTok @cults.to.consciousness

    Twitter @cultstocon

    **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**


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    Why Strictly Devout IFB Homeschooler Was Forced to Question God (ft. Genetically Modified Skeptic) Sep 24, 2025
    Show notes

    Isolated within a world of a strict Independent Fundamental Baptist, Drew McCoy was more than invested in his beliefs. He would proselytize to anyone who needed God, even if it meant sacrificing his social status amongst non-believers. The closest he came to breaking the rules as a teen was hanging out with non-church friends who would smoke we*d in front of him. A health scare drew him even closer to his faith and he attended a very strict Christian college that required even more time and devotion than his childhood. Everything came into question, however, when his family bought hard into Young Living Essential oils. It became religion to them. Drew did his research and found glaring issues with the founder, but when he confronted his family about it, they gave cultish responses that left him uneasy. He had no idea that his entire reality was about to come into question.

    Click here to watch on YouTube

    Watch Drew's Cult Leader confrontation

    Follow Drew on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic

    Drew’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gmskeptic/

    Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel!

    Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.

    Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here!

    Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness

    Venmo @sheliseann

    Find us on Social media!

    Instagram @cultstoconsciousness

    Host Instagram @sheliseann

    Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_

    TikTok @cults.to.consciousness

    Twitter @cultstocon

    **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**

    Chapter Marks

    00:00:00 Intro

    00:03:46 Drew growing up as an Independent Fundamental Baptist

    00:06:15 The IFB uses the Bible as historical and scientific evidence

    00:10:21 Growing up as the "good kid" in Sunday school

    00:13:10 13 year old Drew defends the bible at skate camp

    00:17:31 What it was like for Drew being homeschooled and going to church youth group

    00:22:27 Was Drew ever worried about going to Hell?

    00:27:42 Drew didn't realize he was being indoctrinated with white supr*mecy propaganda

    00:34:32 Drew wanted many chiIdren because of the Quiverfull verse

    00:36:53 How the IBLP made an appearance in Drew's IFB experience

    00:39:54 What college was like for Drew

    00:44:32 When Drew started to feel that the environment may have been creating manufactured spiritual experiences

    00:48:03 Drew explains "Collective Effervescence"

    00:52:49 Drew's family's involvement in a pyramid scheme created a divide with him

    01:07:56 Drew's re-interpretations of what he once knew to be "true"

    01:15:19 Why Drew started his YouTube channel

    01:22:59 Is Drew's wife still a Christian?

    01:25:45 Linda, listen

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