Chief Change Officer™: Ensemble

#427 Waverly Deutsch: Love and Logic—Building Businesses That Actually Work—Part Three Jul 09, 2025

Waverly Deutsch doesn’t just coach entrepreneurs—she translates English to English, reframes stories with strategy, and helps even the most logic-trained professionals tap into their conviction. In this three-part series, we walk through her unusual path from consulting to Chicago Booth to founding WyseHeart, her pitch strategy firm.

Each episode reveals a new dimension of her journey: the personal (Part 1), the academic and instructional (Part 2), and the entrepreneurial, including her bold take on how to co-exist with AI (Part 3). Across every chapter, Waverly models what it means to coach with both love and logic—bringing clear frameworks to messy human dreams.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

What Investors Actually Want

“Good ideas are everywhere. I invest in people who know how to execute.”

Lessons from both sides of the table: raising capital and writing checks.

You Are Not Your Company

“When a startup fails, it doesn’t mean you failed.”

Helping founders detach identity from outcome.

The Metrics That Really Matter

“Sometimes traction isn’t revenue—it’s retention, referrals, or even the right kind of no.”

How she helps founders track the right signals.

Managing the Urge to Please

“Women, especially, are taught to be agreeable. That doesn’t work in fundraising.”

Teaching confidence without arrogance.

Love and Logic, Always

“Lead with empathy. Decide with data. And know which one to use when.”

Her golden rule for founders—and herself.

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#426 Waverly Deutsch: Love and Logic—Building Businesses That Actually Work—Part Two Jul 09, 2025

Waverly Deutsch doesn’t just coach entrepreneurs—she translates English to English, reframes stories with strategy, and helps even the most logic-trained professionals tap into their conviction. In this three-part series, we walk through her unusual path from consulting to Chicago Booth to founding WyseHeart, her pitch strategy firm.

Each episode reveals a new dimension of her journey: the personal (Part 1), the academic and instructional (Part 2), and the entrepreneurial, including her bold take on how to co-exist with AI (Part 3). Across every chapter, Waverly models what it means to coach with both love and logic—bringing clear frameworks to messy human dreams.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

From Book Smarts to Business Savvy

“Entrepreneurship is a process—whether you’re 20 or 50.”

At Booth, Waverly coached a wildly diverse mix: undergrads with unchecked imagination, MBAs with ideas but risk aversion, and execs who played it too safe. Her role? Adjusting the dials between wild dreams and grounded strategy—always pushing people to think just a little bigger (or a little sharper).

Love for the Logical Skeptics

“If you, the entrepreneur, don’t believe you’re building a $50M company, why should the investor?”

Her job wasn’t to sugarcoat—it was to stretch minds. She shares how she helped overly rational MBAs move from “safe” ideas to bold, fundable visions—and overly optimistic young founders get real about execution. Her coaching mantra? Meet them where they are—and nudge from there.

The Muffin That Grew a Billion Dollars

“This could be the Betty Crocker of the 21st century.”

A standout case: Simple Mills founder Caitlin Smith. What began as a gluten-free side hustle turned into a billion-dollar brand—thanks in part to Waverly’s nudge to imagine bigger. It’s a masterclass in how one coach reframed a story and sparked a scale-worthy vision.

Coaching in the Wild

“I’m an English-to-English translator.”

Post-Booth, Waverly now works with a broader crowd: from seasoned pros to small business owners without MBAs. Her key lesson? Listen deeply, strip away jargon, and tailor advice to meet people where they are—because real coaching starts with trust, not templates.

Can AI Be Your Coach? Nope.

“If marriage is ‘til death do us part, investment is ‘til exit do us part.”

Waverly doesn’t see AI as competition—yet. A pitch deck might be AI-generated, but building investor trust, interpreting nuance, and navigating founder doubt? That’s strictly human territory. Coaching is about relationships, not just logic—and for that, love still wins.

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#425 Waverly Deutsch: Love and Logic—Building Businesses That Actually Work—Part One Jul 08, 2025

Waverly Deutsch doesn’t just coach entrepreneurs—she translates English to English, reframes stories with strategy, and helps even the most logic-trained professionals tap into their conviction. In this three-part series, we walk through her unusual path from consulting to Chicago Booth to founding WyseHeart, her pitch strategy firm.

Each episode reveals a new dimension of her journey: the personal (Part 1), the academic and instructional (Part 2), and the entrepreneurial, including her bold take on how to co-exist with AI (Part 3). Across every chapter, Waverly models what it means to coach with both love and logic—bringing clear frameworks to messy human dreams.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Computer Scientist Who Loved Shakespeare

“I’ve always had a foot in both worlds—logic and emotion, code and creativity.”

How Waverly’s dual passions for computer science and theatre shaped her approach to business.

The Pivot Into Entrepreneurship

“I didn’t want to write code anymore. I wanted to solve problems worth solving.”

Why she left tech to help build a startup—and never looked back.

Real Lessons, Not Just Case Studies

“Harvard cases are great, but I wanted to teach with my own stories.”

How she built her curriculum at Booth from lived experience.

Founders Aren’t Born

“They’re shaped by experience, community, and the right mindset.”

What makes someone capable of starting—and sustaining—a business.

Emotion Belongs in the Room

“Business is about people. If you’re not teaching that, you’re missing the point.”

Why she teaches soft skills just as seriously as finance and ops.

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#424 Brian Sims: When Truth Gets Political — Part Two Jul 08, 2025

In Part Two, Brian opens up about what it really cost him to tell the truth inside a political system built on avoidance. From surviving misinformation attacks to refusing to play nice for the sake of power, he reflects on the risks and responsibilities that come with using your platform when it might backfire. We also hear how he rebuilt after the storm—why starting over matters, and what he’s doing differently this time around.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Price of Authenticity

“I didn’t lose because I lacked support—I lost because I refused to lie.”

What really happened during his run for lieutenant governor.

Party Loyalty vs. Personal Truth

“I wasn’t going to smile and play along just to move up.”

When doing the right thing means going against your own team.

Retaliation Isn’t Always Loud

“It’s the silence. The meetings you stop getting invited to.”

How quiet resistance can be louder than shouting.

Redefining Leadership

“I don’t want to lead the way they taught us. I want to lead in a way that reflects my truth.”

Why he’s rebuilding his leadership from the ground up.

The Work Continues—But Differently

“My goal now isn’t to win office. It’s to win trust.”

From political power to public service, on his own terms.

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#423 Brian Sims: When Truth Gets Political — Part One Jul 07, 2025

In Part One, Brian walks us through the pivotal moments that shaped his path—from coming out as a college athlete to confronting power structures as a civil rights lawyer. He shares how being raised by military parents shaped his moral compass, how football taught him about leadership under pressure, and why he believes his queerness has made him a better, sharper advocate. This is the story of a public servant forged in fire—and not afraid to stay loud.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Day Job and the Gay Job

“There was work I did to earn a living. And work I did to sleep at night.”

Brian’s legal path wasn’t linear—it was moral. Disability law by day, LGBTQ+ advocacy by choice. The real career came when he fused both.

Feminist Lawyer at Age 12

“I told people I wanted to be a feminist lawyer… before I even knew what that fully meant.”

His mother’s defiance of gender roles shaped more than his politics. It gave him a framework for justice—before he ever came out.

Raised by a Combat Nurse with a Crew Cut

“She probably got accused of being a lesbian once a week in the military. It didn’t harden her—it strengthened her.”

Growing up with two military parents meant discipline and love. But it was his mother’s quiet power that taught him to be an upstander, not a bystander.

Coming Out—and Coming Into Power

“My teammates waited until they knew I’d be safe to ask me if I was gay.”

Brian’s coming out wasn’t loud—it was supported. That emotional safety net shaped how he now builds space for others.

From Closet to Capitol

“Eight months before I took office, I knew I was the only out person in the room. But I also knew I wasn’t the only one.”

Brian didn’t just fight for LGBTQ+ rights—he stood up for racial justice, reproductive rights, and equality as a full strategy. Being gay got him elected. Being an ally kept him effective.

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#422 Kevin Eikenberry: Leading on Purpose, Not by Default — Part Two Jul 06, 2025

In Part Two, Kevin Eikenberry challenges the myth that leadership is just for those with formal authority. He unpacks the idea of “leadership by choice,” reflects on the rise of remote work, and shares practical advice for building influence, trust, and connection—especially when you’re not in the same room. With insights from decades of coaching and his own mistakes, Kevin makes a compelling case: the future of work belongs to people who choose to lead, wherever they are.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Leadership Isn’t a Title

“You don’t need a position to lead. You just need to make the choice.”

Why influence, not authority, defines real leadership.

From Compliance to Commitment

“Command and control can get people to do the work. But it won’t make them care.”

How great leaders inspire action—not just obedience.

Remote Work Is Here to Stay

“Hybrid is the reality. The leaders who adapt will win.”

Why resisting change isn’t a strategy—and what to do instead.

Trust Can Travel

“Distance doesn’t have to mean disconnection.”

Building rapport, connection, and shared purpose in remote teams.

Be a Student of Your Own Leadership

“Every leader needs a development plan—just like athletes have coaches.”

Why leadership is a daily practice, not a fixed identity.

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#421 Kevin Eikenberry: Leading on Purpose, Not by Default — Part One Jul 06, 2025

In Part One, Kevin shares the personal and professional journey that shaped his leadership philosophy—from farm life to corporate training to becoming a global thought leader. He explains why leadership isn’t about innate traits or job titles, but about everyday choices. Drawing from his early career, client work, and lessons from home, Kevin lays out why leading by default isn’t enough—and how you can start leading by design.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

From the Farm to the Front of the Room

“I didn’t grow up thinking I’d teach leadership. But I grew up watching it.”

How growing up on a farm quietly planted the seeds of leadership.

Default Mode Isn’t Leadership

“Too many people lead by accident. They react. They wing it. And it shows.”

Why awareness and intention are the real foundations of influence.

Leadership Is Learned, Not Born

“No one gets promoted and magically becomes a leader.”

The myth of the ‘natural leader’—and why it holds people back.

Everyday Moments Matter Most

“Leadership shows up in the way you write an email, run a meeting, or give feedback.”

The seemingly small actions that build—or break—trust.

The First Step Is a Mirror

“If you want to lead others, you have to lead yourself first.”

Why self-awareness is the starting point of every leadership journey.

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#420 Adaira Landry MD: From Mentorship to Micro Skills—Tools for Thriving at Work — Part Two Jul 06, 2025

In Part Two, Adaira Landry goes beyond storytelling and gets strategic—explaining how to stop saying yes to everything, avoid burnout, and take back control of your time. She shares how the original title of her book almost became Chisel, why Micro Skills isn’t meant to be read cover to cover, and what FOMO vs. JOMO really means in your career.

This episode is a mindset shift for anyone who’s overcommitted, overextended, or overdue for some clarity. Her message is simple but powerful: just because you can do something, doesn’t mean you should.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Book Almost Had Another Name

“We wanted to call it Chisel. But it didn’t land the way we hoped. Micro Skills captured it better—it’s about precise, meaningful action.”

Ambition Without Boundaries Isn’t Sustainable

“I used to say yes to everything. Then I realized—none of it was helping me grow upward. It was just clutter.”

Say No to Say Yes

“JOMO—the joy of missing out—is real. You don’t need to chase every opportunity. You need to choose the right ones.”

The Burnout Trap

“If you’re always working horizontally, you never move vertically. That’s not growth. That’s noise.”

Fast Impact, Not Magic

“You don’t need a new degree or a big life change. You just need to start—small, now, and with purpose.”

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#419 Adaira Landry MD: From Mentorship to Micro Skills—Tools for Thriving at Work — Part One Jul 05, 2025

Before she became a physician, educator, and mentor to hundreds, Adaira Landry felt out of place in nearly every professional room she entered. In Part One, she opens up about entering college at 16, watching a man collapse on campus, and how that moment -- and a painful accident -- pulled her toward medicine. She reflects on growing up without access to mentors, and why that made her even more intentional about creating useful, inclusive career tools later on. This episode is a behind-the-scenes look at what shaped the voice behind Micro Skills.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

When Life Said “Step In”

“He collapsed right outside my class. And I just walked toward him. I didn’t know what I was doing—but I knew I had to do something.”

The moment on campus that first pulled her toward medicine.

Burned and Alone

“I remember laying on the floor thinking—this isn’t how it’s supposed to be. I couldn’t even call for help.”

A personal injury that left her with pain—and perspective.

No One Called It Mentorship

“We never used that word growing up. It wasn’t until grad school that someone even explained what a mentor really does.”

Why finding guidance felt so unfamiliar at first.

The Confidence Gap

“I had to teach myself to stop over-explaining—to just say the thing.”

On growing into her voice in high-pressure environments.

Why Micro Skills Mattered

“I was tired of career advice that was abstract. I wanted to write something people could actually use Monday morning.”

The motivation behind a book built for practicality, not prestige.

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#418 Resa Lewiss MD: Building a Career with Both Hands — Part Two Jul 05, 2025

In Part Two, Resa gets tactical. She explains why Micro Skills begins with time, trust, and self-care—because none of the communication tricks matter if you’re running on empty. She unpacks workplace blind spots that slow careers down, shares why she wrote this book for more than just doctors, and explains why clarity, not complexity, wins in high-stakes situations. Also: BCC etiquette, post-traumatic growth, and the exact moment she realized the workplace comes with an unwritten playbook—and how she set out to write it.

This is about what really sustains you: self-respect, situational fluency, and knowing what’s worth your time.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Workplace Doesn’t Come with a Playbook

“I didn’t get the playbook—so I wrote one.”

Why Micro Skills is the field guide she wishes she had years ago.

Why the Book Starts with Time

“Time can only be spent. You can’t save it. You can’t refund it.”

What trauma bays taught her about urgency, and how it applies to every job.

Letters of Recommendation and Hidden Rules

“No one told me how the game worked. That one insight saved me years of inefficiency.”

The invisible workplace norms that trip people up—and how to name them.

Rest Is Strategy, Not a Luxury

“If you’re not well, nothing else works. We call that micro skill #1.”

Why self-care opens the book—and isn’t just about bubble baths.

Intentional Email Etiquette

“BCC isn’t sneaky—it’s smart. You’re protecting privacy and reducing clutter.”

How respect shows up in the smallest digital behaviors.

Practicing Under Pressure

“People think it’s all adrenaline. But real calm comes from preparation.”

What she teaches students who want to stay grounded in chaos.

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#417 Resa Lewiss MD: Building a Career with Both Hands — Part One Jul 05, 2025

In Part One, Dr. Resa Lewiss reflects on the experiences that led her to emergency medicine, from early memories of gender inequity at the dinner table to the interdisciplinary studies that shaped her worldview. She shares why she chose a career in high-pressure medicine, how a love of procedures led her to ultrasound, and why teaching globally changed how she practices and leads.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Medicine Was a Calling, Not a Family Trade

“I didn’t grow up around doctors. But from early on, medicine was in my bones.”

Resa explains how her internal pull toward healthcare was stronger than any external influence.

The First Fight for Fairness

“My dad said, ‘Girls, clear the table.’ I said, ‘What about the boys?’”

She recalls early moments that sparked her refusal to accept unequal expectations.

Finding Her Fit in Emergency Medicine

“Once I rotated in emergency, I thought—this is it. This is where I belong.”

Resa describes the moment she discovered the dynamic, procedure-driven specialty she’d been looking for.

The Power of a Liberal Arts Education

“My literature and sociology classes made me a better doctor. They taught me empathy.”

She shares how studying beyond science helped her connect more deeply with patients.

Teaching Around the World

“When I went to India, Rwanda, Jordan—these were not lectures. These were collaborations.”

Why global teaching in ultrasound expanded her understanding of medicine and leadership.

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#416 Sienna Jackson: Culture, Capital, and the Courage to Start Young — Part Two Jun 17, 2025

Sienna Jackson, the CEO of Nortera.io, walks us through her unexpected shift from entertainment executive to impact strategist.
In Part Two, Sienna Jackson dives deeper into the business of social impact—from why she walked away from Hollywood to how she’s now helping build one of Africa’s largest funding summits. She explains how impact is more than a buzzword—it’s a measurable, strategic discipline. Sienna shares how to bridge silos, build coalitions, and roll up your sleeves to help the helpers. From the boardroom to Ethiopia, she shows that real change isn’t about ego or noise—it’s about clarity, community, and execution.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Off-Ramp to Impact

“I didn’t have a master plan. I just started doing small things—bought a domain, formed an LLC, sent one email: ‘I’m doing social impact now.’ That was the pivot.”

You Can’t Improve What You Don’t Measure

“Impact is the net positive change rendered as a direct and material result of your actions. If you can’t model it, predict it, or quantify it—it’s just branding.”

Culture, Cause, Capital

“My work lives at the intersection of culture, cause, and capital. You need all three to drive sustainable, global change.”

Building a Real Profession

“We don’t have a bar association or CPA license for impact work. That’s a problem. I’m creating a survey to start defining our industry.”

Don’t Silo—Build Coalitions

“You have to speak multiple professional languages. That’s how you bring nonprofit leaders and private sector players into the same room—and actually get something done.”

Help the Helpers

“If you feel overwhelmed, find the people already solving the problem—and ask how you can contribute. That’s how real change starts.”

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#415 Sienna Jackson: Culture, Capital, and the Courage to Start Young — Part One Jun 17, 2025

Sienna Jackson’s career began fast and early—college at 14, internships with The Weinstein Company, and leadership roles in the entertainment industry by her twenties. But behind the résumé was someone quietly questioning the rules of success. In Part One, Sienna shares how a childhood of contradictions, an early taste of toxic power, and a deep sense of cultural responsibility led her to rethink everything.

She didn’t just pivot—she designed a new model where impact isn’t a bonus, it’s the baseline.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

From Piano Lessons to Policy Debates

“I was born into a family where both Chopin and Noam Chomsky were dinner table topics.”

How her childhood shaped a unique blend of creativity, intellect, and global curiosity.

College at 14, Hollywood by 17

“I was eager—but also uneasy. I knew I was being shaped by systems I didn’t yet understand.”

The rush of early opportunity—and its hidden costs.

Power Without Guardrails

“I learned very quickly that intelligence didn’t guarantee safety.”

What she witnessed inside the entertainment industry—and how it changed her.

Walking Away From the Dream

“I had to ask: Is this ladder leaning against the right building?”

Why she left behind a promising executive path to build something better.

What Stays, What Goes

“I kept the parts of me that loved storytelling. I let go of the ones that craved approval.”

The beginnings of her journey toward purpose-driven entrepreneurship.

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#414 Jevon Wooden: From the Military to Mindset Mastery — Part Two Jun 16, 2025

From facing seven years in prison at 17 to leading soldiers in Afghanistan, Jevon Wooden’s story is more than a redemption arc—it’s about owning your power the moment you realize you’ve still got one.

In Part Two, Jevon gets tactical. He breaks down the frameworks behind his coaching work—from redefining confidence, to managing emotional triggers, to the underrated power of setting non-negotiables. We talk inner dialogue, identity shifts, and what it means to actually “own your kingdom.”

This isn’t just mindset—it’s method. And it’s built on real scars, not theory.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Confidence Isn’t Loud

“Confidence isn’t ‘I know everything.’ It’s knowing you can figure it out.”

Why true confidence starts with humility—not bravado.

Triggers Are Teachers

“If something sets you off, it’s pointing to a wound. Not the world.”

How to decode your emotional responses instead of avoiding them.

From Victim to Victor

“You don’t need to wait for closure. You get to choose the story you tell yourself.”

How Jevon reclaimed his narrative after being wrongfully accused.

The ‘Own Your Kingdom’ Philosophy

“Your kingdom is your mind, your energy, your space. Guard it like royalty.”

What leadership looks like when it starts from within.

When to Say No

“If it doesn’t align with your purpose, it’s a distraction—no matter how good it sounds.”

The power of non-negotiables in building a life by design.

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#413 Jevon Wooden: From the Military to Mindset Mastery — Part One Jun 16, 2025

Before Jevon Wooden became a business coach, author, and speaker, he was a 17-year-old on trial—facing up to seven years in prison. In Part One, Jevon shares how that moment became the turning point that led him to the military, and how the battlefield taught him about clarity, purpose, and emotional control.

This isn’t just a story about second chances—it’s about deciding who gets to write your next chapter.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Moment Everything Changed

“I was 17, on trial, and scared out of my mind. That’s when I realized—I had to make a choice.”

The day that forced Jevon to take back control of his story.

Discipline with Direction

“The military gave me structure. But more importantly, it gave me a reason to use that structure.”

Why accountability means more when it’s personal.

Clarity Is a Weapon

“You need to know who you are before you can lead anyone else.”

How the battlefield shaped his inner compass.

The Power of Emotional Control

“I couldn’t afford to break down. Not in the middle of a mission.”

What combat taught him about staying steady when everything else isn’t.

Redefining Masculinity

“We were taught to suppress everything. But real strength is being able to handle your emotions, not hide them.”

Jevon’s take on emotional intelligence, especially for men of color.

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#412 Mark Bayer: From Ivory Tower to Power Play — Helping PhDs Get Heard (and Hired) — Part Two Jun 14, 2025

You’ve got the credentials, the data, and the ideas. But how do you make people actually care?

In Part Two, Mark unpacks his 11 Keys to Translating Complexity (complexitymadeclear.com) —an actionable framework to help scientists communicate clearly, concisely, and with impact. He explains why it’s not about dumbing down your message but lifting it up so others can meet it. From the science of metaphor to the neuroscience of attention, Mark arms PhDs with tools to shift from overlooked to influential—without losing their intellectual edge.

This episode is your field guide to getting heard, hired, and respected beyond the ivory tower.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The 11 Keys That Cut Through

“People aren’t persuaded by volume. They’re moved by clarity.”

Why precision—and not more PowerPoint slides—is your best communication strategy.

Neuroscience for Nerds (And Everyone Else)

“Our brains reward novelty. That’s why metaphor works better than math in a pitch.”

How attention works, and what science communicators can learn from it.

PhDs Speak Another Language—Here’s How to Translate

“You’re crossing cultures. Treat it like that.”

Why business communication isn’t just a tone shift—it’s a worldview shift.

Connection Before Communication

“Until someone trusts you, they won’t hear you.”

The hidden role of empathy in making technical ideas land.

AI Has Data. You Have Voice.

“AI can’t tell a story it hasn’t seen. You can.”

Why human communication still matters more than ever in a post-ChatGPT world.

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#411 Mark Bayer: From Ivory Tower to Power Play — Helping PhDs Get Heard (and Hired) — Part One Jun 13, 2025

Before founding Bayer Strategic Consulting, Mark Bayer led communications on Capitol Hill for nearly two decades—helping politicians cut through noise, make arguments stick, and win support under pressure. These days, he brings that hard-earned clarity to a new crowd: scientists, researchers, and PhDs who need to get their message across in rooms that don’t speak science.

In Part One, Mark unpacks why so many highly educated experts still struggle to connect—and why messaging isn’t about making things simpler, but sharper. He shares stories from Congress, contrasts the cultures of academia and advocacy, and reveals the single most important mindset shift for researchers who want to be heard.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

First Day in Politics, First Misunderstanding

“I thought ‘R&D’ meant research and development. It meant Republicans and Democrats.”

What getting thrown into the deep end of political culture taught him about insider language.

The 8% Reality Check

“Only 8% of PhDs stay in academia. But the training assumes 100% will.”

Why the pipeline is broken—and who’s getting left behind.

From Data Dump to Message Discipline

“Academics want to show the depth of their knowledge. But the real skill is answering the question in front of you.”

How political strategy flips the communication playbook.

Beauty Doesn’t Equal Buy-In

“You can build something beautiful. But if it doesn’t solve a stakeholder’s problem, it won’t land.”

Why relevance trumps brilliance.

You’ve Got 10 Seconds

“Start with the point. Don’t make them dig for it.”

Why headlines—not history lessons—open doors.

Communication as a Career Lever

“This isn’t soft stuff. It’s the stuff that gets you hired.”

How learning to communicate is learning to lead.

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#410 Sande Golgart: Climbing the Wrong Mountain — Part Two Jun 12, 2025

After decades of chasing external wins, Sande Golgart decided to stop running. In Part Two, he shares the uncomfortable, intentional work of stepping back—what it took to unplug from achievement addiction and start redesigning a life that fits from the inside out.

This isn’t a story about reinvention through ambition. It’s a blueprint for growth through subtraction: less noise, more clarity; fewer roles, deeper connection; no hustle, just truth. From mending his marriage to redefining success, Sande opens up about what he calls “Life Peels”—and why letting go is the new way up.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Listening Over Learning

“I wasn’t trying to fix anything. I just got quiet and listened.”**

Sande explains how stepping back from self-optimization gave him the clarity he had missed for years.

The Life Peels Method

“David was always in the marble. Michelangelo just removed what wasn’t him.”**

He introduces his philosophy of growth by subtraction—peeling away the excess to uncover what truly fits.

When Growth Isn’t More

“I’ve had enough of strategy decks and hero stories. I want to feel ease in my own skin.”**

Why he redefined ambition not as stacking wins but as feeling aligned, grounded, and whole.

Relearning Partnership

“When the noise died down, we both realized we’d never had stillness before.”**

How the transition to an empty nest revealed unspoken gaps in his marriage—and led to new connection.

Letting Life Lead

“I used to control everything. Now I just pay attention—and things unfold better than I planned.”**

What happened when he stopped pushing for outcomes and started trusting the process.

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#409 Sande Golgart: Climbing the Wrong Mountain — Part One Jun 12, 2025

Before he became a coach and founder, Sande Golgart was addicted to acceleration. He said yes to every challenge, thrived in high-stakes boardrooms, and made a name for himself as a relentless performer. But behind the energy and accolades, something didn’t sit right.

In Part One, Sande retraces his early life as a dunk contest champion, his rise through the corporate ranks, and the moment he realized the game he was winning wasn’t one he wanted to keep playing. What started as hustle became habit. What looked like progress felt like pressure. And what came next was a reckoning.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Playing to Win—Even in a Suit

“I approached sales the same way I approached dunk contests: high energy, no fear, go all in.”

How a competitive spirit helped Sande rise fast—but also masked the cost.

Yes Man Syndrome

“I never said no. I didn’t even know what no sounded like.”

Why overcommitment isn’t ambition—it’s avoidance in disguise.

Movement as a Mask

“As long as I kept moving, I didn’t have to think. Stillness scared the hell out of me.”

When action becomes a coping mechanism, not a strategy.

The Wrong Summit

“You keep pushing for the top, then get there and realize… it’s not your mountain.”

Sande explains the disorienting moment that sparked his pivot.

Forgotten Self

“I knew my job title. I knew my revenue targets. But I couldn’t tell you what I liked.”

How busyness blurred his sense of identity—and what came next.

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#408 Jodi Silverman: When the Kids Grow Up, But You’re Just Getting Started — Part Two Jun 07, 2025

Jodi Silverman never expected reinvention to arrive between carpools and client meetings. But once her kids left and the hustle paused, she realized success had masked something deeper: restlessness.

In Part 2, Jodi shares the emotional (and practical) shift from parenting full-time to rediscovering your own interests. She walks us through her signature DARE Method and dishes out real talk on marriage, identity, and why your kids aren’t your best friends (even if you really, really like them).

This isn’t just an episode about empty nests. It’s about refilling your own life—on your own terms.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

“You’re always their mom—but not always their problem-solver.”

Letting go means shifting from fixer to coach, giving your adult kids space—and yourself permission to grow.

Best Friend? Nope. Mom Forever.

“They have friends. What they need is a parent who actually knows when to walk away.”

Jodi explains why clinging to closeness can backfire—and how healthy detachment brings deeper connection.

The Real Empty Nest Challenges

“It’s not just missing them. It’s not knowing who you are without them.”

It’s not about quiet halls—it’s about a loud identity crisis. Jodi breaks down the emotional vacuum no one warns you about.

The DARE Method

“Decide. Awaken. Reimagine. Experience.”

Jodi’s four-step formula to reclaim your identity—starting with a brain dump, not a five-year plan.

Rediscovering You

“What did you used to like—before you were someone’s plus one?”

She urges listeners to list lost joys, try without judgment, and welcome failure as a doorway to rediscovery.

Day Swaps, Not Date Nights

“Plan a day around what lights them up. You’ll learn more than any heart-to-heart.”

From partners to adult children, this method rebuilds connection through shared experiences and mutual curiosity.

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#407 Jodi Silverman: When the Kids Grow Up, But You’re Just Getting Started — Part One Jun 06, 2025

Jodi Silverman never expected reinvention to arrive between carpools and client meetings. But once her kids left and the hustle paused, she realized success had masked something deeper: restlessness.
In this episode, Jodi shares how she walked away from a print business, wrestled with guilt, and built Moms Who Dare—a movement for women redefining purpose in the second half of life.
This isn’t about motherhood or milestones. It’s about refusing to shrink when your old identity no longer fits.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Accidental Entrepreneur

“I had no business background. I didn’t even know what the word ‘entrepreneur’ meant.”

What started as a favor to a friend turned into Jodi’s first business—and taught her that grit beats a business plan.

The Silent Shock of an Empty Nest

“Suddenly, I had all this time. And I didn’t know who I was without the doing.”

With her kids grown, the quiet forced Jodi to confront the identity she had deferred for years.

The Dare That Sparked a Movement

“I dared myself to figure out what I wanted. And I didn’t stop until I did.”

The origin story of Moms Who Dare wasn’t about strategy—it was about survival and self-permission.

From Guilt to Growth

“I felt guilty for wanting something more. But I also knew: guilt doesn’t mean you’re wrong.”

Jodi confronts the emotional friction of wanting purpose beyond parenting—and what it took to say it out loud.

Midlife Isn’t a Crisis—It’s a Crossroads

“This stage of life? It’s not the end of the story. It’s the best chapter if you let it be.”

Redefining the narrative around aging, purpose, and starting over—without the clichés.

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#406 Richard Carson: Diagnosing Dysfunction, One Broken System at a Time — Part Two Jun 04, 2025

Before Richard Carson wrote The Book of Change, he was writing letters to newspaper editors and fixing chaos in city hall.
In Part 2, we unpack how Richard’s 39-step framework came to life—from a career shaped by failures to a model refined by fieldwork. Richard explains why he borrowed diagnostic tools from medicine, how COVID and AI are reshaping his thinking, and what consultants often forget: you’re not there to impress, you’re there to listen. It’s a masterclass in what it really takes to move people—and systems—without losing your common sense.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Model That Stuck

“Every step in the 39 comes from something that broke.”

Richard’s framework isn’t theoretical—it’s field-tested.

You’re Not a Consultant. You’re a Doctor.

“I borrowed from the NIH diagnostic model.”

Why organizational dysfunction is more like illness than inefficiency.

Don’t Skip the Kickoff

“You don’t send an email. You sit down, answer questions, get buy-in.”

The part of change most leaders rush—and shouldn’t.

AI Isn’t a Leader

“You can’t automate trust. You can’t outsource belief.”

His biggest concern about the rise of artificial intelligence.

How Change Shows Up at Home

“I told my boss I was going back to school. He said no. I quit.”

Why he applies his own model to life, not just work.

Listen Like It Matters

“I don’t need your advice—I need you to hear me.”

The line from his wife that became a leadership principle.
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#405 Richard Carson: Diagnosing Dysfunction, One Broken System at a Time — Part One Jun 02, 2025

Before Richard Carson wrote The Book of Change, he was writing letters to newspaper editors and fixing chaos in city hall.
In Part One, he retraces the early detours—from archaeology hopeful to urban planner to accidental consultant. With every chapter, one theme stayed constant: real change happens when you stop assuming and start listening. Whether it’s a time-tracking nightmare or a consultant who forgot to swap client names in the proposal, Richard’s stories cut through the noise to reveal why change fails—and what to do instead.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

From Trowels to Town Halls

“I was studying archaeology. Then I realized I liked systems, not shovels.”

Why solving institutional puzzles beat digging for ancient ones.

Everyone’s Lying—But They Don’t Mean To

“The problem they describe is never the actual problem.”

Richard explains why surface issues are just the smoke, not the fire.

The Timecard Horror Story

“They tracked every 15 minutes. It was organizational madness.”

A micromanagement case study that went down in flames—and what it taught him about autonomy.

Consulting Found Him First

“One day I was hiring consultants. The next, I became one.”

A random audit leads to a career revelation.

Communication Rule #1: Pass the Grocery Store Test

“If you can’t explain it in plain English in front of the broccoli stand, it’s too complicated.”

What city planning taught him about clarity—and why most leaders flunk this test.

Crisis Is a Terrible Thing to Waste

“People don’t want to change unless there’s blood on the floor.”

How to turn urgency into alignment without fearmongering.
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#404 Lora Chow: Trading Wall Street for a Steinway — Part Two Jun 02, 2025

What does it really mean to follow your heart—without losing your head?
Lora Chow shares how her music venture, Virtuoso Fiesta, brings classical music to new audiences while keeping its soul intact. She opens up about funding live concerts, launching her new album Reveries on Ivories, and composing as a form of storytelling. This is more than a career pivot—it’s a case study in blending logic and intuition, technology and art, structure and spirit.

Whether you’re chasing harmony or still stuck in the noise, Lora’s story will tune you back in.
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Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Head Doesn’t Disappear—It Backs You Up

“I still use my analytical skills. I just apply them to something more personal now.”

Why Lora’s shift into music was powered by belief, not rebellion.

Virtuoso Fiesta: Where High Art Meets Real Joy

“Fiesta means party—and we want classical music to feel that way.”

The mission to make elite music more inviting, not intimidating.

Composing for Peace, Not Just Performance

“We write music that addresses social issues and inspires change.”

When harmony becomes a form of activism.

Patronage and Purpose

“We invest everything back into creating great music.”

How the business model of Virtuoso Fiesta is built on community support and access.

Tech with a Soul

“AI can mimic sound. But it doesn’t have feelings.”

How Lora uses AI as a tool—without letting it replace the human connection.

Pen, Paper, and Confidence

“You need to believe it’s possible before anyone else does.”

Journaling, meditation, and why belief is the real starting point of change.
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#403 Lora Chow: Trading Wall Street for a Steinway — Part One Jun 01, 2025

Lora Chow didn’t abandon ambition—she just rewrote its score.
In this episode, we trace her unusual arc from elite finance to classical composition. She opens up about choosing Yale over Cambridge, chasing Wall Street dreams, and what it really took to reclaim her voice—literally. This isn’t a story about dropping out or burning out. It’s about tuning into the parts of yourself that never stopped playing.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Choosing Yale Over Cambridge Wasn’t Just About Prestige

“My heart wanted music. But my mom majored in math—and Hong Kong wanted finance.”

Lora opens up about the early tension between cultural expectation and personal calling.

Fitting Into the Ivy League Mold—Until It Didn’t

“Everyone was applying to Morgan Stanley. I followed the crowd—and got the job.”

At Yale, ambition and conformity collided. She got the offer, but the itch for music never left.

A Grand Piano, a Grand Salary—But Something Felt Off

“I loved music. But I also wanted a home with a grand piano.”

Trading dreams for stability was logical—but it came with a cost.

Silence Sparked the Return to Sound

“I lost my voice for a year. That’s when I started composing.”

An unexpected health detour brought her back to the keyboard.

Bulgaria, Opera, and a Creative Awakening

“A summer program opened a door I hadn’t dared to knock on before.”

A trip abroad flipped the script—and planted the seed for Reveries on Ivories.
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#402 Helen Hanison: Success Isn’t Always Success — Part Two May 31, 2025

You’ve admitted the career no longer fits. Now what?

In Part Two, Helen Hanison, former global PR executive turned executive career coach, walks us through what real change takes—beyond pep talks and pivot memes. She unpacks her three-act framework (Alignment, Redesign, and Transformation), explains why people cling to jobs they secretly loathe, and warns against the “anchor bias” that keeps us chasing the same dream long after it’s stopped making sense.

From spotting your outdated success scripts to mapping out future obstacles, Helen makes the case that career reinvention isn’t linear—it’s a zigzag of bold choices, mindset shifts, and quiet resilience. If you’re ready to do the inner work instead of just tweaking your LinkedIn title, this episode is your field guide.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Alignment Before Action

“If you skip alignment, you’re just kicking the wrong can down the road.”

Why getting unstuck starts with strengths, values, and purpose—not a job board scroll.

Beware the Anchoring Trap

“The first idea you fall in love with? It’s probably not the right one.”

How to test-drive multiple versions of your future instead of clinging to the shiny one.

Redesign as a Contact Sport

“Agile career design means you keep moving, even when the path gets messy.”

Helen shares how mini-experiments and pilot tests beat fantasy-level planning.

The Psychology of Not Quitting

“Hitting the wall isn’t failure. It’s a push-off point.”

Hope Mapping, resilience habits, and the real mindset work behind meaningful transformation.

Outgrowing the Old Career Narrative

“Perseverance is not always noble—it can be your trap.”

Letting go of the stories, scripts, and social prescriptions that no longer serve you.

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#401 Helen Hanison: Success Isn’t Always Success — Part One May 30, 2025

Helen Hanison was a high-flying PR executive with a passport full of stamps, million-dollar campaigns, and a board-level title. But after 20 years in the industry, she found herself questioning everything. Motherhood collided with her career, success lost its sparkle, and the feeling of being “stuck-but-still-good-at-it” became suffocating.

In Part One of this two-part conversation, Helen shares the moment she realized her success was seducing her into staying in the wrong life. She opens up about the subtle signs of misalignment, the “lost years” between knowing something’s wrong and doing something about it, and how her pivot into psychology laid the groundwork for a new career—one that finally fits. If you’ve ever felt competent but not alive in your work, this one’s your mirror.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

When High Achievement Turns into Quiet Misery

“I was flying everywhere, leading campaigns—and I still felt hollow.”

Helen unpacks the disconnect between outer success and inner dissatisfaction, especially when you’re too good at a job that no longer excites you.

The Motherhood Collision

“I hadn’t seen it coming, but it hit hard.”

Becoming a mother didn’t just change her home life—it cracked open the illusion that her career and identity were truly aligned.

Good At It, But Dead Inside

“I wasn’t unhappy… just not lit up.”

Helen describes the in-between phase where nothing is obviously wrong, but everything feels subtly off—a quiet crisis that many professionals ignore for too long.

The Clues Were Always There

“I was coaching before I knew what coaching was.”

Helen reflects on how her leadership style—taking colleagues out for coffee, asking them what they wanted—was already pointing toward her next calling.

Seduced by Success, Trapped by Titles

“It’s a long way down when the ladder’s leaned against the wrong wall.”

She reveals why people get stuck in senior roles they don’t love, and how fear of the unknown keeps them climbing in the wrong direction.

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#400 Jean Zhou: Flipping the Script—From Spreadsheets to Storytelling May 30, 2025

Jean Zhou’s journey defies every linear career chart.
After starting in accounting and dabbling in venture capital, she found herself chasing something spreadsheets couldn’t capture—emotion. That led to Wind Entertainment, a bold bet on storytelling rooted in sociology, psychology, and a lifelong obsession with television. In this episode, Jean reveals the early frustrations that sparked her producer dreams, why she believes storytelling is a survival skill, and how her sociology background became the secret sauce to building character-driven dramas that resonate worldwide.
This is the story of how data met drama—and lost.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

How Bedtime Curfews Sparked a Creative Fire

“Growing up, I had to go to bed at 9 p.m. while TV programs ran until 10. It wasn’t fair—and it burned into my brain. One day, I wanted to be the person who decided how stories end.”

From Sociologist to Storyteller

“Sociology gave me a backstage pass into human behavior. Understanding people—not just markets—is what powers great storytelling. It’s my foundation, even in business.”

Wind Entertainment: Building Stories That Travel

“In 2019, I launched Wind Entertainment to nurture writers. By 2020, we were producing our first TV drama. That show, The Starry Love, aired on four stations and sold in over 30 countries.”

Why AI Can’t Write Your Script

“AI summarizes the past. It can’t write to surprise, or break molds. A drama needs rhythm, tension, and emotion tailored to the buyer—it’s art, not automation.”

Finding the Market in Emotion

“In venture capital, I was taught to find value through data. In storytelling, I learned to find it through emotion. A great script isn’t just written—it’s felt.”

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#399 Nellie Wartoft: Global Fix—Change Management Without the Migraine — Part Two May 29, 2025

Nellie Wartoft is the founder and CEO of Tiger Hall, a change enablement platform built for teams tired of stale workshops and change theater. In Part One, she takes us from her tiny hometown in Sweden to the boardrooms of Asia, where flipping burgers at McDonald’s, carrying an ice hockey trunk to Singapore, and watching companies struggle with real transformation all shaped her mission. This is change management with edge—equal parts adventure, insight, and rebellion.

Key Highlights of Our Interview

Change Theater vs. Real Impact

“Most companies don’t fail at change because of bad tools. They fail because they bring people in too late and communicate like robots. Change has to feel human to work.”

Same Emotions, Different Timelines

“Fear, chaos, resistance—these show up everywhere, regardless of geography. The real difference is how cultures structure leadership and how fast they move. The U.S. wants speed. Asia wants legacy. Both come with tradeoffs.”

Ego: The Silent Killer of Transformation

“The higher the ego of a leader, the lower the success rate of their transformation. Fear of feedback, obsession with control—it turns a team into a compliance machine instead of a change engine.”

Tech Isn’t the Problem—Leadership Is

“People love apps—just not the ones that feel forced. If your tools aren’t solving real problems or making life easier, the issue isn’t the platform. It’s the person who bought it.”

Walking the Talk at Tiger Hall

“We use our own platform to manage internal change. No Zoom fatigue, no death-by-Slack. One short recording can replace hours of town halls and still hit harder—because it’s fast, direct, and straight from the source.”

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#398 Nellie Wartoft: Global Fix—Change Management Without the Migraine — Part One May 29, 2025

Nellie Wartoft is the founder and CEO of Tiger Hall, a change enablement platform built for teams tired of stale workshops and change theater. In Part One, she takes us from her tiny hometown in Sweden to the boardrooms of Asia, where flipping burgers at McDonald’s, carrying an ice hockey trunk to Singapore, and watching companies struggle with real transformation all shaped her mission. This is change management with edge—equal parts adventure, insight, and rebellion.

Key Highlights of Our Interview

Sweden, Cows, and a One-Way Ticket

“On my 18th birthday, I booked a one-way flight to Singapore, packed my life into an ice hockey trunk, and left my small Swedish village—where the cows outnumbered the people. That was the real beginning of everything.”

From Fries to Founder: Discovering Her Professional DNA

“I call McDonald’s my most transformative experience. That’s where I learned what I now call my three professional addictions: high pace, commercial thrill, and leadership. Everything I’ve done since started there.”

The Real Meaning of Resilience

“Workshops don’t build resilience. Hard times do. Either you win, or you build character. That’s the trade-off. And the only way through it is through it.”

Don’t Build Your Identity on a Job Title

“If your sense of self is built on a title, what happens when that’s gone? I don’t define myself by being a CEO. I define myself as someone who works hard, learns fast, and has good intentions. That can’t be taken away.”

Why She Launched Tiger Hall (Spoiler: It Involves SharePoint Rage)

“Too many companies still think change means mass emails, intranet black holes, and jargon-filled PDFs. I wanted to build a platform that makes transformation actually work—for real humans, not just consultants.”

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#397 Colin Savage: Why Skill Stacking Is the New Lifelong Learning — Part Three May 28, 2025

In this final part, we go beyond buzzwords. Colin breaks down how to make AI work for you—not replace you. He explains how human intelligence and machine intelligence can combine to create authentic, enhanced value. From warning students not to cheat with ChatGPT to showing executives how to tailor their own AI strategy, Colin’s message is clear: You don’t need every tool. You need the right ones—and a deeply human way to use them.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

You Don’t Need Every Tool—Just the Right Ones

“People want a silver bullet—one AI tool that solves everything. But like any good toolbox, the magic lies in how tools are combined and applied, not how many you have.”

Skill Stacking Isn’t Hoarding—It’s Connecting

“Collecting skills is easy. What matters is how you use them together. Communication, judgment, and emotional intelligence are what give your technical know-how real power.”

Human Intelligence = Authenticity

“AI might write your speech, but it’s your lived experience that makes it land. Audiences can smell a fake. Human intelligence—time-tested, real, and grounded—is irreplaceable.”

The Penalty of Skipping the Work

“If a student uses AI to cheat, they fail. If a banker uses it to write a pitch, it could be fraud. As stakes rise, so do the consequences of skipping the human part.”

Authentic + Artificial = Amplified

“When human intelligence and AI align, you don’t just get automation—you get amplified value. That’s the combo to aim for: authentic, enhanced, and scalable.”

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#396 Colin Savage: Why Skill Stacking Is the New Lifelong Learning — Part Two May 28, 2025

In this episode, Colin deconstructs the romanticism of “lifelong learning” and makes a sharp case for skill stacking—not as a buzzword, but as a career imperative. From the strategy rooms of Japan to the boardrooms of Canada, he unpacks the realities of navigating change in cultures, families, and workplaces. Plus, why some organizations say they want transformation but are actually addicted to the comfort of legacy systems.
If you’re tired of collecting degrees that lead nowhere, this one’s for you.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Illusion of Change-Readiness

“Some companies claim they want transformation, but really, they’re just addicted to the status quo. I’ve seen firms hire me as their ‘change guy,’ only to resist every proposal I made. You can’t retrofit a new future if people are still clinging to an old playbook.”

Measured, Not Maniac: Change the Japanese Way

“In Japan, change isn’t chaotic—it’s deliberate, strategic, and often unspoken. Success meant listening, researching, and quietly building allies one by one. Change doesn’t have to be noisy to be real.”

No More MBA Decisions in a Vacuum

“Career decisions ripple through families. Too often, we forget that behind every ‘yes’ to an opportunity is a spouse, a child, or a life partner who wasn’t asked. Real transformation involves everyone at the table.”

Lifelong Learning Is a Vibe—But It’s Not Enough

“Learning for learning’s sake isn’t a strategy. Without direction, it becomes a distraction. The future belongs to those who don’t just keep learning, but stack those learnings to build something sharper, deeper, and more useful.”

Skill Stacking vs. Degree Collecting

“My bookshelf has diplomas and dust-covered guitars. Not all knowledge needs to be monetized—but if you want to be valuable in a complex world, stack your skills like a staircase. That’s how you move up and across.”

Tools, But No Toolbox?

“We live in a tool economy. Got a problem? There’s an app for that. But most people aren’t solving root issues—they’re patching over symptoms. Without connecting your skills with insight, it’s just noise.”

Personal vs. Professional Learning

“Skill stacking is for the professional you. Lifelong learning is for the human you. You don’t need to turn your love of modern African history into a job. Sometimes learning is just for joy—and that’s okay.”

From Change Addict to Change Architect

“I used to go full throttle. Now I slow down, talk more, and push less. Change is a collective journey. It doesn’t matter how fast you’re driving if no one’s willing to ride with you.”

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#395 Colin Savage: Why Skill Stacking Is the New Lifelong Learning — Part One May 28, 2025

If reinvention were a passport, Colin Savage’s pages would be full. From global projects across seven countries to helping old-school industries like Japanese insurers modernize with tact, Colin’s career isn’t just built on change—it thrives on it.

In Part One, we go deep on the difference between chasing novelty and building purpose. Colin dismantles the dated idea of “lifelong learning” and replaces it with something sharper: skill stacking. You’ll also hear how he developed change muscles by moving countries, industries, and ideas—without ever losing sight of what matters.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Purpose Behind the Pivot

“Change is exciting—but if there’s no deeper reason behind it, it’s just noise.” Why purpose should lead, not lag, behind transformation.

Skill Stacking vs. Lifelong Learning

“Lifelong learning sounds noble—but it’s often aimless. Skill stacking is intentional.” Colin’s case for mastering combinations over collecting badges.

Japan: Where Change Means Patience

“In the Japanese life insurance industry, I learned that fast isn’t always smart.” Why transformation in traditional sectors demands humility and consensus.

The Trap of Unfinished Adventures

“You can jump into change for the thrill—but it’s the follow-through that matters.” Why Colin says completion is underrated in careers.

Addicted to Change? Own It.

“I love novelty—but I’ve learned to pair it with discipline.” Colin’s method for staying curious without burning out.

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#394 Rebecca Sutherns: Career on Her Terms—From Global Aid to Solopreneur Strategy — Part Two May 27, 2025

Rebecca Sutherns didn’t follow a straight path—and she’s the first to say that’s the point. As a strategy coach and solo entrepreneur for 27 years, she’s helped leaders rethink what’s next while doing the same for herself. In this two-part series, we talk about work-life trade-offs, momentum, and why imagining your future might be the most strategic thing you’ll do.
If you’ve ever hit pause or felt stuck in place, this one’s worth a listen.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Midlife Isn’t a Crisis—It’s a Cue

“I wasn’t burning out, but I could tell I was flatlining.”

How Rebecca used a sabbatical to catch up with herself—not because she broke, but because she was ready for something deeper.

What Comes After ‘I’ve Got This’

“I kept getting hired for things I could do in my sleep. That’s when I knew it was time to stretch again.”

The danger of being competent—and the invitation to do more than just deliver.

Stop Filling Gaps You Don’t Want to Own

“I could solve the problem, but that didn’t mean I should.”

Why she stepped back from team leadership roles—even when others saw it as a step up.

Sabbatical as Prototype

“It was a test. Could I shift the pace and still be useful?”

Why her sabbatical wasn’t a break from work—it was a strategic experiment in working differently.

A Career Built Like a Hammock

“The structure holds me, but it flexes.”

Her metaphor for a work life that stretches without snapping—anchored but adjustable.

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#393 Rebecca Sutherns: Career on Her Terms—From Global Aid to Solopreneur Strategy — Part One May 27, 2025

Rebecca Sutherns didn’t follow a straight path—and she’s the first to say that’s the point. As a strategy coach and solo entrepreneur for 27 years, she’s helped leaders rethink what’s next while doing the same for herself. In this two-part series, we talk about work-life trade-offs, momentum, and why imagining your future might be the most strategic thing you’ll do.
If you’ve ever hit pause or felt stuck in place, this one’s worth a listen.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

27 Years Solo—By Design

“I’m in year 27 of my own solopreneurial journey.”

Why she stayed intentionally solo—and never looked back.

The Business Started in the Gaps

“If it sounded interesting… and if I could find some childcare, then it was like, okay, I’ll say yes.”

How her career grew between naptimes and network calls.

The Flight That Changed Her Fees

“This guy said, ‘You’re charging what?’ And I ended up in this business school program that totally transformed how I priced.”

One plane ride, one wake-up call, five times the income.

Why She Chose Not to Scale

“I didn’t want the responsibility of paying someone else’s mortgage.”

Her unapologetic answer to the growth-at-all-costs model.

Reinvention, Repeated

“I would just change how I looked at the work.”

Why she never pivoted industries—but constantly evolved her lens.

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#392 Robert MacPhee: From Parking Cars to Coaching Clarity—Lessons from a Chicken Soup Insider — Part Two May 26, 2025

Robert MacPhee didn’t start out teaching values—he started out parking cars. But somewhere between the valet stand and becoming Jack Canfield’s right-hand man (yes, that Chicken Soup guy), Robert found his lane. Now the author of Living a Values-Based Life, he’s guiding people to stop driving in circles and finally align their actions with what truly matters.

In this second half of the series, Robert breaks down how to live out your values in everyday life—not just name them. We dig into why values change with life stages, what to do after you’ve identified your top five, and how to keep them visible and active as your world evolves.
If you’ve ever felt stuck, misaligned, or unsure what to prioritize, this episode gives you the clarity compass you didn’t know you needed.

Key Highlights of Our Interviews:

Why It’s So Hard to Define Our Own Values

“Most people’s initial list of values often reflects what they think others want to hear.”

We’re conditioned to impress, not reflect—until we learn how to tune out the noise and tune into what really matters.

How a Values-Based Life Can Improve Work

“Clarity about values doesn’t just make personal life better—it’s transformative for work too.”

Whether it’s contribution, integrity, or service, values-aligned action makes work more purposeful and less draining.

Do Values Change Over Time? The Short Answer: Yes.

“What mattered in high school may be worlds apart from your sixties or seventies.”

Life events—from caregiving to career pivots—reshape our internal compass. Values aren’t static; they evolve with us.

Keeping Values Visible

“Have them on your phone, your mirror, your nightstand—whatever it takes.”

Don’t just declare your values. Revisit them, reflect on them, and let them guide your daily decisions.

Borrowing Values When You Need Them

“Discipline and strength may not be on your list—but sometimes, you’ll need to call them in.”

Complementary values can be summoned in certain seasons—without betraying your core.

The 4 A’s: A Framework for Application

“Assess, pick an Area, choose Actions, and create Accountability.”

Robert’s system helps you go from intention to implementation—because without action, it’s just a nice conversation.

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#391 Robert MacPhee: From Parking Cars to Coaching Clarity—Lessons from a Chicken Soup Insider — Part One May 26, 2025

Before he was coaching CEOs or co-creating workshops with Jack Canfield, Robert MacPhee was parking cars. That detour became a defining feature—not a footnote.

In Part One, Robert shares his unlikely path from backstage support to clarity coach. We explore why most people struggle to name their values, how he built the “Excellent Decisions” framework, and why aligning your choices with your core values is less about woo-woo ideals and more about long-term clarity.

Forget vibes—this episode is about learning to steer your life with your own internal compass.

Key Highlights of Our Interviews:

From Jack Canfield to Clarity Coach

“I had the great pleasure of working with Jack Canfield for close to 10 years… and then I developed Excellent Decisions, about making choices from vision and values.”

How working with the Chicken Soup for the Soul co-founder led Robert to create his own framework for alignment and success.

The Definition of Values (Without the Fluff)

“Our values are what’s most important to us… the areas we want to put time and attention on, and how we want to show up in the world.”

Robert demystifies “values” into two key categories—priorities and ways of being—and why this distinction matters.

Dust-Free and Proud: How Values Show Up at Work

“One company literally listed ‘dust-free’ as a core value—because they cared deeply about being a good neighbor.”

A surprising story about a construction company that proves values don’t need to be lofty—they just need to be lived.

A Workshop, a Wake-Up Call, and 35 Pounds Lost

“She just got clear that health mattered. Seven weeks later, she lost 35 pounds.”

Why values clarity can be more powerful than any diet plan, productivity hack, or goal-setting framework.

Why Most People Can’t Name Their Values

“Schools don’t teach it. Parents rarely do. We’re basically flying blind through life.”

Robert explains why we inherit others’ values by default—and how to break the cycle with conscious exploration.

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#390 Erin Diehl: From Talk Show Dreams to a Business Built on Bombing — Part Two May 26, 2025

Part Two.

The queen of corporate improv is back—and this time, we’re going deeper into the messy, magnificent art of failing forward. In this episode, Erin Diehl shares her Worst Terrifying Failure (aka WTF moment): how the pandemic brought her business to a standstill, her body to a breakdown, and her mindset to a crossroads. But instead of spiraling, she built a comeback rooted in self-healing, radical joy, and a step-by-step method called MOVE ON.

From chronic pain to corporate reinvention, this episode is a masterclass in resilience—with punchlines. Spoiler: the joke’s not on you. It’s for you.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

WTF = Worst Terrifying Failure

 “2020 was my crash course in failure.” Erin unpacks the three Ps—pivoting, people-pleasing, and pain—and how they nearly broke her until she rebuilt with purpose, priorities, and peace.

Marinate: Sit With It, Not In It

“Failure isn’t a bruise—it’s a process.” Erin’s MOVE ON method starts with pausing and processing, not pushing through.

Own It: Forgive and Face the Thought Worms

“80% of our thoughts are negative—and we repeat 95% of them.” Learn how Erin rewired her mental patterns with self-compassion and honesty.

Verify the Lessons & Evaluate the Plan

“Every faceplant teaches you something—if you’re paying attention.” Erin explains how reflection plus action equals transformation.

Observe and Next Failure: Keep Going

“The N stands for the Next Failure—because there will be one.” Erin’s method is built for real life, where the next curveball is always around the corner.

Joy as a Strategy, Not a Side Effect

“My goal every day is to feel good—because if I don’t, I can’t help anyone else.” Erin closes with a message on generosity, energy, and the contagious power of a smile.
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#389 Erin Diehl: From Talk Show Dreams to a Business Built on Bombing — Part One May 25, 2025

Before Erin Diehl was training Fortune 500 teams to think on their feet, she was juggling job fairs by day and Second City by night.

In Part One, we go back to the origin story—how a recruiting job collided with a comedy stage and sparked a business idea no one saw coming. From cold pitching United Airlines with zero credentials to redefining ROI as “Return on Objective,” Erin shares how improv became her leadership laboratory. Along the way, we talk about joy, failure, and what really happens when you turn your side hustle into your full-time mission.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

From Stage Lights to Slide Decks

“I was working in recruiting by day and performing improv by night. Eventually, I realized improv wasn’t just funny—it was functional.”

How Erin’s stagecraft became a corporate tool.

United We Improv

“My first client was United Airlines—and I didn’t even have a logo yet.”

How one bold pitch turned into a paid pilot and a new career.

In the Business of Joy

“I just knew I wanted to help people and bring joy.”

Why Erin sees her work as more than training—it’s emotional transformation.

Forget ROI, Focus on ROO

“We don’t measure ROI—we measure ROO: Return on Objective.”

How Improve It tailors every session to real business outcomes.

From Talk Show Dreams to Leadership Teams

“I wanted to be Oprah. I ended up helping people lead better lives through improv.”

The full-circle moment that turned childhood dreams into professional purpose.
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#388 Todd Davis: Inside 30 Years at FranklinCovey—What Most Leaders Still Get Wrong — Part Two May 25, 2025

In a world obsessed with AI, automation, and the next big tech trend, Todd Davis believes human intelligence is more valuable than ever.

Sure, AI can crunch numbers—but can it build trust, resolve conflicts, or make people feel heard?

In Part 2, we go straight into the human side of leadership—why most people don’t actually listen, why trust is like a bank account, and how one employee nearly lost her career over a simple blind spot. Todd also shares a powerful story about a prison inmate who transformed his life using The 7 Habits—a reminder that leadership isn’t about titles. It’s about impact.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Art of Actually Listening

“Most people aren’t listening. They’re just waiting for their turn to talk.”

The leadership skill no one teaches—but everyone needs.

The Trust Bank Account

“Withdraw too much without making deposits, and you’ll be bankrupt.”

How trust works just like money—and why leaders must invest in it.

A Career Almost Ruined by One Blind Spot

“She was the smartest person in the room. But no one wanted to work with her.”

How self-awareness can make or break careers.

The 7 Habits… In Prison

“An inmate wrote to us saying the book changed his life.”

How leadership principles apply anywhere—even behind bars.

Why Human Intelligence is the Competitive Advantage

“Companies are chasing AI skills. But what they actually need? People who can think, communicate, and lead.”

Why interpersonal skills—not algorithms—will shape the future of work.

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#387 Todd Davis: Inside 30 Years at FranklinCovey—What Most Leaders Still Get Wrong — Part One May 25, 2025

Todd Davis didn’t just teach The 7 Habits—he lived them for 30 years inside the leadership company that built its name on them.

As the former Chief People Officer at FranklinCovey, Todd spent three decades coaching teams, executives, and entire organizations on what truly drives effectiveness—and what quietly kills it. In this episode, he unpacks why trust is more than a buzzword, how most leaders think they’re being clear (but aren’t), and what’s gone missing in today’s fast-changing workplace.

Whether you’re leading a team or just trying to survive your next meeting, this is your crash course in timeless leadership with zero fluff.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

From Recruiting to the C-Suite

“I was just hiring people. Then suddenly, I was leading them.”

How Todd built a 30-year career at FranklinCovey without ever planning for it.

The Secret to Long-Term Career Growth

“I didn’t hop around jobs. I stayed put and made an impact.”

Why depth, consistency, and trust still beat flashy résumés.

The 7 Habits Still Work—Here’s Why

“They’re not business tactics. They’re human principles.”

Why The 7 Habits remain relevant—even in an age of AI and burnout.

What’s Wrong With Workplaces Today?

“People don’t hate work. They hate how work is designed.”

The real reasons employees disengage—and what better leadership could fix.

The #1 Leadership Skill People Get Wrong

“Most leaders think they’re clear. They’re not.”

How miscommunication erodes trust—and how to stop it from happening.

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#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two May 23, 2025

What if the biggest barrier to innovation isn’t a lack of ideas—but a mountain of pointless work?

In Part Two of this series, Lisa Bodell, CEO of FutureThink and one of the world’s top speakers on simplification, walks us through her strategy to make work—and life—less overwhelming and more meaningful. She shares how organizations like Pfizer and Google cut clutter to free up creativity, and how we can do the same in our personal lives. Lisa also gets personal about parenting, mental health, and why she believes simplicity is a survival skill in the age of AI.

From ditching unnecessary meetings to raising future-ready kids, this episode is a manual for letting go of the noise and doubling down on what matters.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Why Simplicity Is a Leadership Strategy

“Simplification isn’t organizing. It’s deletion. If you removed just 10% of your clutter—mental or physical—your life would transform.”

Kill a Stupid Rule (Redux)

“Pfizer didn’t need more innovation. They needed fewer barriers. Killing one pointless process saved them thousands of hours.”

Busy ≠ Valuable

“We’ve rewarded ‘more’ instead of ‘meaningful.’ Hustle culture thrives on this lie—and it’s breaking people.”

Personal Simplicity Starts with Self-Audit

“Write down everything you do in a month. Circle what’s meaningful. Now ask: what can you delete, delegate, or decline?”

How to Say No Without Burning Bridges

“Try saying: ‘Yes, if…’ instead of ‘Yes, and…’ Boundaries are the gateway to better work.”

AI vs. Human Intelligence

“AI gives you answers. But it can’t ask the right questions. That’s where human intelligence still leads.”

What Schools Get Wrong About the Future

“We’re training kids to be future employees, not future humans. That’s got to change.”

Redefining Learning with Power Skills

“Forget soft skills—they’re power skills now. Curiosity, resilience, empathy: these will matter more than any degree.”

Raising Future-Ready Humans

“My daughter trained with the FBI. My son wants to be an entrepreneur. I bring them to my talks so they see work in action.”

Why Simplicity Is a Mental Health Imperative

“It’s not about doing less—it’s about doing more of what matters. Simplicity doesn’t just help work. It heals people.”

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#385 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part One May 23, 2025

Lisa Bodell didn’t just study the future—she built a career helping others prepare for it.

In Part One of this two-part series, the CEO of FutureThink shares how her path from advertising to futurism led to a global mission: helping teams simplify, innovate, and stop drowning in busywork. She breaks down what it really means to be a futurist (hint: no crystal balls involved), why complexity is the true enemy of innovation, and how she’s helped companies like Pfizer kill zombie meetings and make space for what actually matters.

If your calendar is packed but your brain is fried, this episode is for you.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

From Ads to Innovation Strategy

“I was great at selling creative ideas—but I realized people needed help generating them.”

What a Futurist Actually Does

“It’s not about trendspotting. It’s a structured approach to planning multiple scenarios—and preparing for them.”

Why Simplicity Comes First

“People aren’t tired of innovation. They’re tired of all the unnecessary stuff that gets in the way.”

The Leap into Entrepreneurship

“When you work for yourself, there’s no safety net. But that’s what makes it exciting—and all yours.”

Pivoting with Purpose

“Nothing stays the same. The best entrepreneurs know how—and when—to shift.”

Futuring ≠ Trendspotting

“Real futurists use models, not guesses. It’s about resilience through structured foresight.”

Kill a Stupid Rule (Yes, Really)

“When Pfizer saw that employees couldn’t get things done, we trained 40 champions in one simple tactic: kill a stupid rule. The result? Thousands of hours—and dollars—saved.”

Make Room for What Matters

“Simplification isn’t about doing less. It’s about doing more of what’s meaningful.”

Busy ≠ Valuable

“We reward people for doing more, not for doing what matters. That’s the problem.”

Personal Simplicity = Mental Clarity

“Write down everything you do. Circle what’s meaningful. Then start deleting what’s not.”

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#384 Deborah Perry Piscione: From Power Plays to Pay-It-Forward—How Work Got Rewritten — Part Two May 23, 2025

Part Two of a 2-part series with Deborah Perry Piscione.

She’s been a White House staffer, a Silicon Valley founder, and now co-author of Employment is Dead. In this final chapter, Deborah unpacks the future of learning, hiring, and leadership. Her son skipped college, built a six-figure business, and learned survival in Antarctica—and she says that path may be more relevant than a classroom.

From blockchain credentials to portfolio careers and life-stage flexibility, Deborah lays out what’s next for both workers and employers. She also answers the big question: does “employment is dead” mean we stop working? Not even close. But we do stop settling.

If you’re a leader, parent, or Gen Zer trying to understand what the future holds—this one’s for you.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Degrees Are Optional, Grit Isn’t

“My son crossed the Drake Passage and got left on a roadside in Argentina. He didn’t go back to college—but he learned more than any syllabus could teach.”

Employment Is Dead? Not Quite

“I’m not saying sit in the basement and play video games. I’m saying don’t tolerate a system that treats you like a cog.”

The Rise of Life-Stage Flexibility

“Whether you’re 25 or 55, you deserve a career path that adjusts to your life—not the other way around.”

Why Employers Must Wake Up Now

“One person can now do the job of three. If leaders don’t plan for that shift, they’ll lose talent before they know what hit them.”

The Most Important Executive Role? CHRO

“Yes, you need a chief AI officer. But you need a human-centered CHRO even more—to help people evolve with the tech.”

The IBM Example

“IBM’s CEO told employees: ‘If this next chapter isn’t for you, we’ll help you find a new path.’ That’s empathy in action.”

Let’s Talk T-Shaped Talent

“It’s not just about your vertical expertise—it’s what else you bring across disciplines that makes you valuable now.”

Redefining Work in the AI Age

“New tech like smart contracts and DAOs will let us work on our terms, from anywhere, on things we actually care about.”

Why Gen Z Might Be Right

“We were told to follow one path. They’re building ten—and most of them don’t involve climbing a corporate ladder.”

What ‘Employment Is Dead’ Really Means

“Traditional jobs may be fading, but work isn’t going anywhere. What’s dying is the idea that your life has to fit inside someone else’s system.”

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#383 Deborah Perry Piscione: From Power Plays to Pay-It-Forward—How Work Got Rewritten — Part One May 23, 2025

What happens when a political insider, a Silicon Valley entrepreneur, and a bestselling author walk into a podcast? You get Deborah Perry Piscione.

In Part One of this two-part series, Deborah shares her wild career ride—from shaping policy in Washington to pioneering bottoms-up innovation in tech. She breaks down why fear is a tool in politics, but collaboration fuels real change—and how a chance encounter in a coffee shop led to her first startup and a new lens on what work could be.

From co-founding six ventures to co-authoring Employment is Dead, Deborah’s story is a masterclass in trusting your instincts, failing fast, and knowing when to break the rules. Part Two will dive deeper into AI, upskilling, and why Gen Z might be the smartest workforce we’ve ever had.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

From Capitol Hill to Palo Alto

“In D.C., I learned how to divide people. In Silicon Valley, I learned how to bring them together.”

The Starbucks That Changed Everything

“A stranger asked, ‘How can I help you?’ Three weeks later, I had venture capital.”

Six Companies, Six Books, No Master Plan

“I didn’t have a big strategy—just instincts, observation, and the nerve to try.”

Innovation Isn’t Top-Down Anymore

“The best ideas often come from the people with the smallest paychecks.”

Risk Is the Real Skill

“You can throw ten ideas at the wall. One might stick. The rest will teach you.”

Founders Dilemma: Know When to Let Go

“Sometimes it’s not about the perfect number—it’s about moving the mission forward.”

Why She Launched Work3 Institute

“People spend most of their waking hours at work. So why do so many feel terrible doing it?”

Old Model, New World

“I never understood why finishing work early meant I had to sit until 6 p.m. Taylorism still haunts us.”

Empowering Workers, Not Just Employers

“We’re not just talking to companies—we’re telling workers: you have choices now.”

Gen Z Knows More Than the Bosses

“For the first time, a generation entering the workforce understands the future of work better than the people in charge.”

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#382 Josh Drean: Employment Is Dead—Now Let’s Rebuild It — Part Three May 22, 2025

Part Three of a 3-part series with Josh Drean.

Josh isn’t here to tweak the old system—he’s here to build a new one. In this final chapter, the Work3 Institute co-founder and co-author of Employment is Dead goes deep on what it actually takes to evolve.

Vince and Josh tackle the hard stuff: Are degrees still relevant in a skills-first world? How does blockchain flip the hiring process? What if your next “employee” is actually a DAO participant with token voting power? And what happens to companies who still think Zoom fatigue is the biggest problem facing the future of work?

If your HR strategy still lives in a Word doc, this episode is your sign to evolve—or get left behind.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Degrees vs. Skills: Why the Shift Is Happening Now

“Degrees used to guarantee employment. Not anymore. Employers are waking up—skills win.”

The Truth About Ivy League Pedigree

“At Harvard, the education’s fine—but it’s the connections that count. That’s the real ROI of the degree.”

AI Has Already Broken the Hiring Process

“You’ve got AI writing job descriptions, AI writing résumés, and AI screening candidates. Humans barely touch the funnel anymore.”

Blockchain and the Rise of the Verifiable Résumé

“With blockchain, we don’t have to trust you—we already know. Your digital wallet becomes your skills passport.”

DAO 101: Flattening Hierarchies and Sharing Power

“A DAO lets frontline workers vote on strategy, not just execute it. It’s work by consensus, not command.”

Why Micromanagers Should Be Nervous

“We don’t need six layers of oversight. Tech lets teams self-govern and move faster—with less drama.”

The Gen Z Warning Shot

“Gen Z isn’t lazy—they’re just not buying the 9-to-5. If you don’t offer autonomy and impact, they’ll leave.”

Spotify’s Win: Let Work Fit Life, Not the Other Way Around

“Companies like Spotify get it—flexibility, rhythm, and respect lead to loyalty.”

From Analog to AI: Vince’s Gen X Reflection

“We learned on Lotus, adapted to Excel, and now manage in the age of ChatGPT. Tech is the bridge, not the barrier.”

Final Advice for Employers: Evolve or Be Replaced

“Change isn’t optional. Either reshape your workplace—or get ready to lose your best people to the ones who did.”

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#381 Josh Drean: Employment Is Dead—Now Let’s Rebuild It — Part Two May 22, 2025

Part Two of a 3-part series on Josh Drean.

Josh has worn many hats—Harvard MBA, psychology grad, co-founder of Work3 Institute and now, co-author of Employment is Dead (Harvard Business Review Press).

In Part 1, we tore down the outdated rituals of traditional employment, including the performative disaster that is the annual engagement survey. Today in Part 2, we go behind the scenes: how did a random cold call spark a bestselling book that landed at HBR?

Josh shares the publishing highs and headaches—crafting a 120-page proposal, keeping the book relevant in a fast-changing world, and building an audience in real time on social media while the manuscript sat in editing limbo. This one’s for every creator, innovator, and future-of-work disruptor trying to stay ahead of the curve.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

A Book Born from a Cold Call

“I know this sounds completely random, but do you want to write a book together?” That’s how co-author Deborah Perry Piscione kicked off Employment is Dead. One unexpected phone call, a big idea, and a sticky title later—they caught Harvard Business Review’s attention.

Publishing in a Real-Time World

“Imagine writing a chapter a year ago, only to have it go live twelve months later—it’s outdated by then.” With AI and Web3 changing everything weekly, Josh kept the conversation fresh through TikTok, LinkedIn, and YouTube while waiting for the book to hit shelves.

The Proposal That Was ‘Way Too Long’

“We ended up with 120 pages—which everyone said was way too much.” But that oversized pitch sparked a bidding war. Why? Because they weren’t just selling a book. They were calling out a broken system—and offering a blueprint to fix it.

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#380 Josh Drean: Employment Is Dead—Now Let’s Rebuild It — Part One May 22, 2025

What if employment as we know it has already died—and we’re just pretending not to notice?

In Part One of this three-part series, Josh Drean—Harvard MBA, startup founder, and co-author of Employment is Dead(Harvard Business Review Press)—joins Vince to dissect the slow death of traditional work. From the failure of annual engagement surveys to the false promise of “people-first” slogans, Josh makes it clear: the current system was built for the factory floor, not the future.

We trace Josh’s journey from studying psychology to working in corporate consulting during the pandemic, and now building the Work3 Institute to help leaders redesign employment itself. Why is HR still feared? Why are employees called “assets” but treated like expenses? And how can new technologies like Web3 create better human systems?

Part Two digs into how a cold outreach led to an HBR publishing deal—and the 10 principles Josh says every modern worker wants now.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Why Engagement Surveys Are a Broken Ritual

“Surveys are the dumbest way to build a relationship. They’re not designed for honesty—and most leaders don’t really want the truth.”

The False Math of ‘People Are Our Greatest Asset’

“If people were really assets, they’d show up on the balance sheet. But they don’t. They’re an expense—and treated like one.”

The Pandemic Wake-Up Call

“I started consulting right as COVID hit. It forced companies to rethink safety, remote work, and what their employees actually needed.”

The HR Dilemma: Protector of People or Risk Manager?

“Most employees still associate HR with layoffs. That’s a brand problem—and a system design failure.”

From Assembly Lines to AI: Why Taylorism Is Still Haunting Us

“Modern work still clings to an industrial-era model—check the box, don’t ask questions. That doesn’t fit the information age.”

How Psychology Led Josh Into Web3 and DAO Culture

“My reason for doing this never changed—it’s about building better experiences. But tech gave me the tools to scale that.”

Meet the Digital Native Workforce (a.k.a. Your Kids)

“My 8-year-old builds real friendships through Fortnite. If you think digital community isn’t real—you’re already behind.”

The 10 Operating Principles of Work3

“From flexibility and autonomy to interoperability and ownership—these are the non-negotiables for the next generation of work.”

Why Forcing People Back to the Office Will Backfire

“Employees don’t want the typewriter factory version of work. RTO is a backwards step—and they know it.”

From Psychology Grad to HBR Author: Josh’s Journey Begins

“I didn’t have a tenured chair or a best-selling track record. Just a cold outreach, a clear message—and a broken system to fix.”

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#379 Alison Stewart: Building a Life Concierge Startup From Scratch—Part Two May 19, 2025

Overwhelmed by life? Alison Stewart gets it—and she’s building a startup to help fix it.

In Part Two, the Overalls COO shares how her team is rethinking employee benefits by offering something surprisingly human: life support, literally. Whether it’s booking a plumber, navigating eldercare, or finding summer camps before the January rush, Overalls acts as a concierge for the chaos of modern life.

Alison also opens up about what it really takes to scale an idea from zero—while trusting yourself to write the policies, run the ops, and still answer the phones. Spoiler: she’s done it all. If you’ve ever dreamed of building something meaningful from scratch, this is your operations masterclass.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:

What Overalls Actually Does (Hint: It’s Not Laundry)

“We’re your life concierge—handling everything from vetting plumbers to eldercare planning. Our job is to give your time and sanity back.”

The Startup Test: From Strategy to Scheduling Cleaners

“Two weeks in, I was calling Colorado well inspectors, pitching insurance partners, and writing job descriptions. All in one day. That’s startup life.”

Why a Stay-at-Home Mom Might Be Your Next Concierge

“We tapped into an overlooked talent pool—retirees, caregivers, underemployed parents—and gave them flexible, meaningful work. It’s a win-win.”

HR Is Finally Getting Thank-You Notes

“Employers tell us: this is the first time employees are actively thanking HR for a benefit. That’s unheard of.”

The Burnout Solution That Isn’t Therapy

“Burnout isn’t always solved by meditation apps. Sometimes, it’s about having someone book that MRI or call the insurance company for you.”

Confidence as a Startup Operator: Earning It Day by Day

“Do I know how to write an HR policy? Not at first. But I figured it out. In a startup, everything’s your job.”

Why Big Company Life Doesn’t Prepare You for This

“In corporate, you focus on one slice. In startup life, you are the pie. You handle everything, whether or not you’ve done it before.”

From Lean to Leveraged: Hiring with Intention

“Writing job descriptions meant I could finally hire someone to take something off my plate. But no one else was going to write them.”

Mindset > Metrics (At Least in the Beginning)

“Don’t just optimize for titles or compensation. Start with: What am I actually excited to build? What problem do I care enough to solve?”

Advice for Fellow Change Progressives

“Talk to people. Write it down. Be honest about what lights you up—and patient with the timeline. Growth is a slow burn. Trust it.”

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#378 Alison Stewart: The LinkedIn DM That Launched a Startup—Part One May 18, 2025

Not all career changes are dramatic. Some are deeply deliberate—and a little serendipitous.

In Part One, Alison Stewart, COO of Overalls, walks us through her transition from 10+ years in the financial sector to co-founding a startup she discovered on LinkedIn. With two kids at home and a stable job in a Fortune 100 company, Alison didn’t jump recklessly. Instead, she asked the hard questions: Am I fulfilled? What do I want next? And how much risk am I really willing to take?

This episode unpacks what happens when you combine career intuition with operational precision—and how a well-timed DM can change everything.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:

From Corporate Climb to Personal Wake-Up Call

“Time started blending together during the pandemic. I had to ask: Am I actually happy? Or just coasting in a cycle of constant resets?”

The Treadmill of Big Company Life

“With every leadership change, we took ten steps back before we moved one forward. I was learning—but I wasn’t growing.”

Childhood Moves, Adult Adaptability

“Moving five times by age 14 taught me to see change as an opportunity. That mindset still guides me today.”

The Pregnancy + Merger Combo

“Just weeks before giving birth to my second child, my business unit was sold. The uncertainty could’ve been paralyzing—but I chose to treat it as a new beginning.”

Risk—But Not Reckless: Mapping a Smarter Pivot

“I didn’t quit cold. I asked: What am I good at? What fulfills me? What can my family support? I gave myself permission to explore—and permission to say no.”

The Non-Obvious Job Search Strategy

“Instead of applying for jobs I knew I could do, I reverse-engineered what I wanted: values, pace, purpose. I wasn’t chasing a title—I was chasing a fit.”

The Moment Overalls Popped Off the Screen

“When I read about Overalls, something clicked. I didn’t even know if they were hiring. I just knew I had to reach out.”

Why LinkedIn Isn’t Just Noise

“It wasn’t a random scroll. I used LinkedIn intentionally—to research, reflect, and eventually connect. That DM changed everything.”

Communicating Across Industries

“Moving out of insurance meant translating my skill set. I had to show how what I did mapped onto what I wanted to do.”

Community + Clarity = Career Confidence

“A networking group of MBA alumni helped me spot my own excitement. They said, ‘This one lights you up. Go for it.’ That feedback made all the difference.”

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#377 Ral West: From Charter Planes to Real Estate Empires—Systems, Grit, and Reinvention May 18, 2025

Most people retire after one successful business. Ral West kept building.

In this episode, Ral shares how she co-ran a charter airline between Alaska and Hawaii for 25 years—eventually selling it to Alaska Airlines—and then launched into her next chapters: owning cruise ships, investing in real estate syndications, and helping other entrepreneurs find sustainability without burnout.

From navigating gender bias in a family business to designing automated booking systems and letting go of control through delegation, Ral’s story is a masterclass in evolving through every season of life. Whether you’re in the startup grind, planning an exit, or rethinking what “retirement” means—her story will get you dreaming smarter and bolder.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The 25-Year Flight Plan: From Tourism to Aviation

“I started in Alaska tourism. My husband was in real estate. Together, we launched a charter service to Hawaii—and turned it into a full airline.”

Selling to Alaska Airlines: A Strategic Exit

“We knew they were entering the Hawaii market. Instead of competing, we showed them why buying us was smarter.”

When Cruise Ships Became the Next Chapter

“We bought five small cruise ships out of bankruptcy, redesigned the Alaskan travel experience—and then pivoted again after COVID shut everything down.”

Why Real Estate Was the Right Post-COVID Play

“We own part of over 6,000 apartment units in five states. Why? Because homeownership is becoming harder, and rental demand is rising.”

From Exhaustion to Empowerment: Lessons from the Middle Years

“Between 35 and 55, I was stretched thin—business, babies, burnout. I had to build systems and teams to stay afloat.”

The Real ROI of Delegation

“Delegation isn’t about giving things away—it’s about building trust and giving others space to shine.”

Turning Intuition into Systems

“I realized I made ad-spend decisions based on 3-day sales trends. Once I named it, I turned it into a repeatable formula my team could follow.”

Reservation System Reinvention

“We invested two years into building an online booking system that ran 24/7—freeing us from the phones and doubling our revenue.”

Not Your Typical Retirement Plan

“I could’ve retired 16 years ago. I didn’t. I love working. My retirement plan is doing what I want, when I want, with the systems to support it.”

Advice for Entrepreneurs at Any Age

“Be bold. Stay curious. Watch the world. And don’t let age—or fear—be the thing that keeps you small.”

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#376 Athena Brownson: Healing in Real Time—The Comeback Behind the Chronic Pain — Part Two May 18, 2025

Comebacks rarely happen all at once. They’re built in small moments, with slow wins.

In Part Two, Athena Brownson opens up about what it really takes to rebuild when chronic illness becomes your new normal. She walks us through her mindset rituals, the power of written affirmation, and how she finally learned the one thing no athlete ever wants to admit: she couldn’t do it alone.

From retraining her brain to let go of pain patterns, to redefining leadership through delegation, Athena shares a playbook for resilience that’s part spiritual, part practical, and 100% earned.
Whether you’re healing from illness, burnout, or just life’s curveballs—this is your reminder that growth is still possible, even in survival mode.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Training Her Brain to Stop Listening to Pain

“Our brains get stuck in pain patterns. I use breathwork, affirmations, and routines to teach mine a new message: You’re safe. You’re healing.”

Why Routines Became Her Lifeline

“Every day starts with journaling, breathwork, affirmations. I write: I am healthy. I am healing. My body is getting stronger. I speak it until I believe it.”

Delegation as a Leadership Superpower

“Being sick taught me what being a leader really means—letting go. Delegation isn’t giving up control; it’s giving others a chance to thrive.”

How Chronic Illness Redefined Her Business Model

“I couldn’t keep doing it all. So I built a team that could run without me on bad days—and succeed with me on the good ones.”

Your Tribe Is Everything

“After ten years, I finally found people who want me well. Who care more about my health than a commission. They’re my family now.”

The Mental Game of Chronic Recovery

“You don’t need to fix it all today. Start with one percent better. That’s how I got out of survival mode.”

Accountability on Paper

“I print out my must-do list and check it off every day. If I don’t write it down, it doesn’t happen. It’s how I stay in motion.”

Pen, Paper, and Confidence

“Writing makes the healing real. Every word reinforces a new belief system—one I can see and hold.”

Jodie Foster, Masterclass, and the Simplicity of Creation

“All you need is pen, paper, and confidence. That line hit me. You don’t need a perfect plan. You just need to start.”

Her Message to Anyone Struggling

“It’s okay to acknowledge pain. Just don’t stay stuck in it. Tiny steps add up. Your healing doesn’t need to be loud—it just needs to begin.”

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#375 Athena Brownson: Lyme Disease, Real Estate, and Radical Resilience — Part One May 17, 2025

At 25, Athena Brownson was a rising star in real estate with a pro skiing past and unstoppable energy. Then came Lyme disease—a diagnosis that would upend her health, identity, and entire way of life.

In Part One, Athena shares the unfiltered truth of what it means to live with a chronic, invisible illness for nearly a decade. From neck surgery to plasma transfusions, she walks us through the daily battles, emotional toll, and quiet strength it takes to show up—even when she doesn’t want to.
This episode is a reminder that resilience isn’t loud or pretty—it’s built moment by moment, one breath at a time.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

From Pro Skier to Top Agent: The Unexpected Pivot

“I never thought I’d end up in real estate. But once I did, it clicked—relationships, homes, design. It all came together.”

At the Peak—and Then Everything Changed

“Three years in, I was at the top of my game. Then came the diagnosis: Lyme disease. My body started falling apart.”

What Lyme Disease Actually Does (And Why It’s Hard to Diagnose)

“Lyme attacks your body where you’re genetically weakest. For me, that meant chronic nerve pain and multiple autoimmune issues.”

From Athlete to Patient: Learning to Survive in a New Body

“I don’t remember what it’s like to feel okay. Every day, I wake up in pain. That’s been my life for almost eight years.”

Plasma Transfusions and Mental Fog: A Day in the Life

“I get plasma removed and replaced four days a month. My life revolves around staying alive and staying upright.”

Invisible Illness, Visible Impact

“People don’t see it—but that doesn’t mean it’s not real. Lyme is the fastest-growing epidemic in the U.S.”

Toolkit Mentality: How Music, Coffee, and Podcasts Keep Her Going

“I don’t always want to get up. But music, good coffee, a favorite podcast—those little rituals make it possible.”

Why You Must Be Your Own Advocate

“With Lyme, you have to fight for your care. You have to find the right doctors, the right support, the right rhythm.”

Grit Over Glamour: Lessons from the Ski Slopes

“Skiing taught me everything—discipline, failure, grit. That training saved me when life got really hard.”

The Power of Mental Focus When the Body Fails

“It’s not just physical. The mental part—the decision to keep going—is what gets me through every single day.”

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#374 Nicole F. Roberts: Turning Science and Story into Impact—Part Two May 17, 2025

What do janitors, jazz musicians, and neuroscientists have in common? According to Dr. Nicole F. Roberts, everything.

In Part Two, the Doctor of Public Health and co-author of Generosity WINS unpacks how she and Monty Wood turned a business book into a narrative experiment—part fiction, part real-world leadership case study. She shares how they chose a fictional hotel manager named Emily to guide readers through generosity’s ripple effects, and how each chapter’s QR code links to a real leader with real lessons.

We also explore her annual Brain Health Summit, hosted during Super Bowl weekend with NFL stars, neuroscientists, and 5,000 guests. It’s science, story, and social impact—all rolled into one unforgettable conversation.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Why No One Buys Healthcare Books—But Everyone Needs This One

“People won’t read about systems. They’ll read about people. So we built a fictional character, Emily, to carry real wisdom forward.”

Inside the Writing Process: Spreadsheets, Stickies, and Storytelling

“We tracked every theme. We mapped each arc. It was my dissertation mind meets Monty’s business brain—and it worked.”

Real Leaders, Fictional World: How Emily’s Journey Became Everyone’s

“Each person Emily interviews is real. Every QR code leads to their profile. We didn’t make this stuff up—we brought it to life.”

Redefining Generosity: It’s Not About Giving Money

“Generosity is any act of kindness or support, given without expectation of return. If you expect something back, it’s just a transaction.”

The Ripple Effect Is Real—And Unmeasurable

“You can’t plug karma into a spreadsheet. But trust, reputation, and relationships? They’ll open doors years later.”

A Thank-You Changed Everything

“One reader started thanking hospital staff daily. It brought him—and others—to tears. That’s the ROI no one talks about.”

Why They Made Emily a Woman—and Placed Her in Hospitality

“Hospitality is about anticipating needs. It’s the perfect metaphor for generosity. Emily’s age and role made her ready to learn, not perfect.”

Can Generosity Be Taught? Yes—With Grief and Grace

“We found our answers in boys’ schools and in people who’d lost everything. Generosity grows when modeled—and when it’s all you have left.”

Brain Summit at the Super Bowl? Yes, Really.

“5,000 guests, jazz museums, NFL players, and neuroscientists. Every year, we throw a party with a purpose.”

Next Year: San Francisco, Brain Health, and the Environment

“Mark your calendar: Super Bowl weekend in SF. Brain Summit’s next theme? The intersection of neuroscience and nature.”

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#373 Nicole F. Roberts: How a Neuroscience Dropout Built a Life Around Purpose—Part One May 17, 2025

What happens when your five-year plan falls apart—and you start to like it that way?

In Part One, Nicole F. Roberts—Doctor of Public Health, human rights founder, and co-author of Generosity WINS—shares the real story behind her very unpolished path. From flunking chemistry and walking away from med school dreams to launching a human rights firm mid-dissertation, Nicole proves that success isn’t always strategic—it’s responsive, human, and messy in the best way.

We explore how her neuroscience roots shaped her curiosity, why she walked away from Washington policy to chase impact, and what changed when she started listening more to real people than political agendas. This episode is for anyone who’s ever hit pause—and realized the reroute was actually the destination.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

When the Neurosurgeon Dream Crashed—and Something Better Emerged

“I realized I was terrible at chemistry… and didn’t want to spend life writing prescriptions.”

How Policy Lost Her—and Public Health Found Her

“Policy’s great—until politics gets involved. I needed to see real change, not just write about it.”

A Six-Month Pause That Turned Into Six Years (and a Human Rights Firm)

“My dissertation chair died. I got divorced. So I started a human rights firm. As one does.”

The Problem with Think Tanks (and the Need to Do, Not Just Think)

“I could write papers forever—but what if no one ever acts on them?”

When Real Life Rewrote the Dissertation

“Those six years gave me a new lens. I rewrote everything—from the topic to the way I thought.”

Her Final Research Topic: Why Neuroscience Can’t Scale Without Generosity

“It turns out collaboration doesn’t come easy in science. Ownership often trumps impact.”

Why Her Dissertation Still Sits on a Shelf

“It was supposed to be my first book. I haven’t opened it in years. I just burned out.”

Co-Authoring Generosity WINS: When a Business Book Becomes a Neuroscience Playbook

“Monty had this premise: success follows giving. I knew the science could back it up—we just had to find the story.”

A Business Fable, a Fictional Heroine, and Real-Life Interviews

“Every chapter has a QR code that takes you to a real leader’s profile. Fictional story, real lessons.”

Why Kindness Is Strategic, Not Soft

“You can’t show the ROI of karma—but the people who give are the ones who last.”

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#372 Building a Life (and Career) on Everyday Generosity — Part Two May 16, 2025

What does generosity look like in a divided, distracted world?

In Part Two, Monte Wood—former CEO of Opus Agency and author of Generosity Wins—dives deeper into how generosity gets lost in the noise of modern life and what it takes to reclaim it. From quiet reflections on Steve Jobs’ legacy to a chance encounter with Elon Musk in a hotel hot tub, Monte shares how generosity can take many forms—and why practicing it daily is the ultimate leadership move.

He also unpacks the forces working against generosity: media polarization, digital disconnection, and our culture of performative success. But with optimism, awareness, and a bit of handwritten gratitude, Monte believes we can rewire how we relate to ourselves—and each other.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

What Generosity Isn’t: Learning from the Hard Edges

“Steve Jobs wasn’t always kind—but his mission was generous. He wanted everyone to access technology. That matters.”

The Hidden Generosity of Power Players

“Elon Musk sat in a hot tub and talked German cinema with strangers. That moment of presence? Pure generosity.”

Why Greed and Media Noise Make Generosity Harder

“Our media doesn’t report anymore—it polarizes. It’s designed to divide us, not connect us. That’s why generosity is revolutionary.”

Connectivity ≠ Connection

“Texting someone in the same room isn’t connection. Real generosity requires presence—not just Wi-Fi.”

A 600-Day Habit That Changed His Life

“For nearly two years, Monte has written down one act of generosity and one moment of appreciation. Every. Single. Day.”

How to Start Your Own Generosity Practice

“It doesn’t have to be dramatic. A smile. A name remembered. A moment of full attention. That’s the starting line.”

The ROI of Generosity Isn’t in Metrics—It’s in Meaning

“You won’t find it in a spreadsheet. But the return? Real connection. Better leadership. More joy.”

Be Generous With Yourself, Too

“Monte exercises daily. Not for performance—for self-gift. Being generous starts with how you treat your own body and mind.”

Hope Isn’t Naive—It’s a Form of Generosity

“Monte calls himself ‘appropriately optimistic.’ His optimism is calibrated—not blind. It’s a gift he gives carefully to others.”

Why He Still Believes in a More Generous World

“We can’t control the noise—but we can choose how we show up. And small, consistent acts of generosity still move the world.”

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#371 Monte Wood: Why Generosity Isn’t Just Noble—It’s Strategic — Part One May 16, 2025

Is generosity a nice-to-have—or a career superpower?

In Part One, Monte Wood, former CEO of Opus Agency and author of Generosity Wins, makes the case for generosity as a leadership strategy with real-world ROI. Drawing from personal stories, his time working with legends like Steve Jobs, Andy Grove, and Mark Benioff, and life lessons from his own mentors, Monte shares how small acts of generosity can ripple out into long-term success—and why true generosity isn’t transactional, it’s transformational.

This episode explores what it means to give without expecting anything in return—and how doing so just might give you everything you’ve been looking for.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The 16-Year-Old With a Generosity Formula

“My mentor told me: believe you can succeed, live a good life, and be generous. That’s it. That’s what I followed.”

From Milton-Freewater to CEO

“Even in a town of 3,500, I believed I’d lead a $100 million company. Generosity helped me get there.”

The Real Test of Generous Leadership

“Great leaders don’t just care about your output—they care about your growth, your family, your life beyond work.”

The Taco Bell CEO Who Taught His Team to Change Tires

“Leadership isn’t just coaching performance. It’s preparing people for life—even if that means teaching them how to balance a checkbook.”

Why Remembering Someone’s Name Is a Leadership Move

“Mark Benioff would walk into a room of 2,000 people and greet them by name. That’s not ego—that’s care.”

The Toyota Truck and the Corner Cubicle

“Andy Grove reinvented Intel—and drove a beat-up Toyota. That’s not performative humility. That’s values in action.”

Is It Generosity If It Helps You Win?

“If generosity leads to success, is it selfish? No—it’s just wise. When done with pure intent, generosity multiplies.”

Defining Generosity (Without the Guilt Trip)

“It’s not about money. It’s any act of giving or kindness done without expecting a return. Even a smile counts.”

Smiles, Bathrooms, and the Chemistry of Connection

“A smile can save a life. Cleaning a public restroom can create joy for someone you’ll never meet. This is the power we all hold.”

The Ripple Effect Is Real—And It Changes Lives

“When you’re generous to one person, they’re more likely to be generous to someone else. The ROI? It might not be financial—but it’s exponential.”

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#370 Paul Austin: Can Psychedelics Unlock Performance—Without Losing the Plot? May 16, 2025

Paul Austin isn’t here to evangelize psychedelics. He’s here to demystify them.

As the founder and CEO of Third Wave, Paul has spent a decade educating the public on responsible psychedelic use—from microdosing protocols to full-dose journeys. In this episode, he shares how psychedelics are being used not just to treat mental health conditions, but to enhance leadership, decision-making, and personal clarity.

We explore the science of neuroplasticity, the legal gray zones, and the risks of skipping the prep work. For high-performers feeling stuck or burnt out, Paul outlines a roadmap grounded in safety, structure, and serious self-inquiry. Whether you’re curious, skeptical, or somewhere in between, this conversation is a guide—not a push—for what transformation can look like when approached with respect.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Why He Started Third Wave—and Why His Dad Tried It Too

“My dad once told me he hadn’t been that disappointed since his brother died. Years later, I guided him through his first psilocybin journey.”

From Microdosing to Life Design

“Microdosing isn’t about escape—it’s about reprogramming. You still have to show up and do the hard stuff.”

Psychedelics as a Skill, Not a Fix

“Just like cooking or martial arts, this is a practice. You get better with time, feedback, and intention.”

When Leaders Feel Stuck, This Is the Pattern Breaker

“For many execs I work with, it’s not about trauma—it’s about lost clarity, emotional fog, or a 360 review that hit too close to home.”

Start Low, Go Slow: Why That Advice Matters More Than Ever

“You can always take more—you can’t take less. Begin with microdosing. Build awareness before diving deep.”

The Snow Globe and the Ski Slope: Two Metaphors That Explain It All

“Think of psychedelics as shaking up the snow globe. Or fresh powder on a slope—you’re no longer stuck in someone else’s ruts.”

Legal Doesn’t Mean Safe. Illegal Doesn’t Mean Dangerous.

“Psychedelics became illegal for political—not medical—reasons. But that doesn’t mean you can skip the legal risks.”

Where It’s Legal—And What to Do If It’s Not

“Colorado. Oregon. The Netherlands. Costa Rica. Go where it’s legal. Work with a guide. Respect the law.”

The Five Elements of a Safe Psychedelic Journey

“Assessment. Preparation. Facilitation. Integration. Microdosing. Miss one, and the whole thing can derail.”

Why No One Should Be Talked Into It

“Don’t do it for your friend, your spouse, or your coach. You have to want this for you.”

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#369 Chris Schrader: From Rainy-Day Idea to Global Movement—The 24 Hour Race Story–Part Two May 14, 2025

After launching a global anti-trafficking movement in his teens, Chris Schrader didn’t settle down—he leveled up.

In Part Two, the founder of the 24 Hour Race draws parallels between navigating the Gobi Desert and leading high-growth businesses across continents. From dropping out of Harvard to leading expeditions and scaling software companies, Chris shares why building teams isn’t about maximizing your strongest players—it’s about supporting your weakest. And why sometimes, real leadership means being the “secretary of the team,” not the star.

This episode goes beyond business tactics and into the mindset behind meaningful leadership. It’s a deep dive into servant leadership, self-doubt, ruthless decision-making, and how to chase your personal North Star—even if you never reach it.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

When ISIS Threats and Identity Crises Collide

“Some challenges are existential—like not knowing what we are. Others are urgent—like whether to cancel an event after a terror threat.”

The Expedition Analogy: Climbing Unmapped Peaks

“Trying to grow an organization is like summiting a mountain no one’s climbed before—you’ll miss things, reroute, and sometimes have to turn back.”

The Gobi Desert and the North Star

“You navigate by stars knowing you’ll never touch them. That’s what great goals are—worth chasing even if you never arrive.”

The Secret to Team Performance

“You’re not defined by your best players. You’re defined by your weakest. Great leaders either lift them—or make hard calls.”

Servant Leadership Isn’t Just Humility—It’s Precision

“As a leader, I’m the expedition secretary. My job is to clear the path so my team can outperform me in every way.”

When to Cut Loose and When to Coach

“Too many leaders let low performers drag down morale. In expeditions, that mistake can get someone killed. In business, it just slowly kills momentum.”

The Myth-Building Side of Leadership

“Sometimes leadership means becoming something aspirational—a myth people can believe in. But you still serve the mission, not yourself.”

Between What You Want to Be and What You Need to Be

“I want to be the first man to circumnavigate the moon. But I need to be a good son, a great partner, a reliable chairman—and pay my sous-vide-powered electricity bill.”

The Hardest Impact Isn’t Global—It’s Personal

“It’s easy to romanticize Musk or Zuckerberg. Harder? Being the friend who actually shows up. That’s the real Paragon of humanity.”

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#368 Chris Schrader: From Rainy-Day Idea to Global Movement—The 24 Hour Race Story–Part One May 14, 2025

Sometimes the biggest movements begin with a simple question: What can I do?

In Part One, Chris Schrader, founder and executive chairman of the 24 Hour Race, shares the unfiltered origin story behind the world’s largest student-run movement to fight human trafficking. What started as a walk across England in memory of a friend became a 24-hour endurance race, then a global platform that’s raised over US$20 million across 25 cities.

But Chris doesn’t romanticize it. He breaks down how it all came together—messy, accidental, and fueled more by belief than a master plan. From skeptical school principals to six-figure fundraisers, this episode explores what happens when students stop waiting for permission and start building real impact from the ground up.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Walk That Started It All

“Six months after a joke about walking across England, we were actually doing it—and raised HK$200,000 for rare diseases.”

From Expedition to Endurance Sport

“We turned a 150km trek across Hong Kong into a run-swim-row challenge—just to prove what students could really do.”

The Birth of the 24 Hour Race

“A simple idea: teams running a 24-hour relay. No elite athletes, just anyone willing to push themselves for a cause.”

Why He Chose Human Trafficking—Without Knowing Much About It

“It wasn’t the topic at first. It was the intensity. We needed a cause strong enough to power people through the pain.”

Ignored by Schools, Backed by Students

“Principals laughed us out of the room. So we went straight to students—and they built the movement themselves.”

From One-Off Event to Global Force

“What was supposed to be a one-time race exploded. Within a year, we were oversubscribed and scaling city by city.”

Beyond Fundraising: Creating Life-Defining Moments

“It’s not just money. Over a million young people have done the race. We want them to remember it when they’re 80.”

Why They Treat Charity Like a Marketplace

“People come for the music, the sleepover, the fun—and that’s fine. We win them over without preaching.”

Raising Future Leaders, Not Just Dollars

“Student directors interview NGOs, ask hard questions, and learn how to be real fiduciaries—not just fundraisers.”

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#367 Michael Sakraida: Money, Media, and the Myths That Keep Us Stuck—Part Two May 14, 2025

In today’s world, financial advice is everywhere—but rarely helpful.

In Part Two, Michael Sakraida continues dismantling outdated ideas about wealth, offering a fresh framework that centers emotional intelligence and personal values. He explains why legacy isn’t just about what you leave behind, but how you live today. From the limits of “aggressive investor” labels to the chaos of unregulated financial influencers, Michael unpacks the hidden damage done by bad advice—and what real financial coaching should look like.

This episode is a must-listen if you’re tired of one-size-fits-all strategies and ready to treat your money like an extension of who you are, not just a number on a screen.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Redefining Financial Independence

“Real financial freedom is when you can work for joy—not for a paycheck. It’s about building a life and a legacy, not just hitting a number.”

Why Risk Tolerance Tests Don’t Work

“You can’t reduce human emotion to a 10-question quiz. And when fear hits, those ‘aggressive’ investors often panic first.”

The Emotional Blind Spot in Wealth Planning

“Advisors must ask three things: Where did your money come from? What do you want it to mean? And what’s your experience with Wall Street?”

From Bull Market Bravado to Bear Market Breakdown

“Long bull runs create fake confidence. The minute the market drops, people flip—and advisors are caught off guard.”

Why Financial Influencers Should Be Regulated (or Shut Down)

“If licensed advisors need approval for every email, why can anyone post financial advice to millions on TikTok without oversight?”

The Financial Media Smut Club

“Some writers don’t even understand what they’re publishing. They confuse inflation with inflation rate—and no one catches it.”

Investing Isn’t a DIY Project When Emotions Are Involved

“This isn’t like assembling IKEA furniture. When fear and greed show up, it’s not about logic—it’s about who you are.”

Money as a Mirror

“The more your investments reflect your values, the less likely you’ll get spooked by the market. That’s the power of alignment.”

Why He Wrote Money, Balance and Joy

“People don’t need another retirement calculator. They need a language for their emotions—and a way forward that actually fits who they are.”

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#366 Michael Sakraida: Rethinking Wealth, Balance, and What Really Makes Us Happy—Part One May 13, 2025

Michael Sakraida didn’t write a money manual. He wrote a mindset shift.

In Part One, the author of Money, Balance and Joy shares how his upbringing, career in finance, and burnout led him to a new definition of wealth—one that includes time freedom and emotional fulfillment, not just financial metrics. He questions why Wall Street ignores the emotional toll of economic instability and how media-driven fear only adds to our sense of isolation and failure.

This episode covers the emotional underbelly of money: why we feel stuck, what control really looks like, and how to take back our narrative without a million-dollar bank balance.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Road Less Paved: Michael’s Unconventional Journey

“I took the road that wasn’t finished. It had potholes, wrong turns—but it made me who I am.”

Mentors, Musicians, and Money Lessons from Long Island

“Growing up, I met people who had money—and had fun. That stuck with me.”

Why He Turned Down the High-Paying Job

“I didn’t want to cold-call my way through life. I took less money for more meaning.”

The First Investor Who Hung Up—Then Jumped In

“He slammed the phone down. I called back and said, ‘You just made a mistake.’ He became our first big client.”

The Real Wealth Equation: Money, Time, Joy

“We’ve built a system that glorifies income but ignores how people spend their time—or who they spend it with.”

Why Wall Street Doesn’t Understand Real People

“For the top 10%, inflation is inconvenient. For the rest, it’s identity-shattering. And no one talks about it.”

Triage Your Change: Where to Focus, Where to Let Go

“Some changes aren’t worth the emotional capital. Focus on the ones that truly move your life forward.”

How Action Shapes Outlook

“You don’t change how you think by thinking. You change how you think by doing something different.”

Feeling Powerless Is the Real Crisis

“Money brings control. When we don’t have it, we need other ways to reclaim power—and move forward.”

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#365 Darcy Eikenberg: How to Rescue Your Career Without Quitting May 13, 2025

You’re exhausted. The meetings are pointless, the politics are draining, and your boss sends Slack messages that trigger a fight-or-flight response. It feels like the only answer is to walk away.

But what if there’s another way?

In this episode, executive coach and author Darcy Eikenberg shares how to turn burnout into clarity without updating your résumé. Drawing from her book Red Cape Rescue: Save Your Career Without Leaving Your Job, Darcy walks us through how to reset how you think, revise what you say, and reinvent what you do—starting from exactly where you are.

With practical strategies, human stories, and a little neuroscience thrown in, this episode is your guide to taking back control without burning bridges—or burning out.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Red Cape Metaphor: Confidence, Not Costumes

“When you feel like your shoulders are back and you’re in control—that’s your red cape moment. And yes, you can create that at work.”

The Lizard Brain Is Lying to You

“Our primitive brain can’t tell the difference between a tiger and a tough email. Fear isn’t the problem—it’s how you respond to it.”

The Three Levers of Change

“We only control three things: what we say, what we do, and what we think. That’s it. But it’s enough.”

You Can’t See the Label From Inside the Jar

“Try this: record yourself venting about work, then play it back. Pull out the facts. Ditch the stories. You’ll be shocked at what you hear.”

Rewriting the Story Without Leaving the Company

“One client didn’t get the promotion. She wanted to quit. But instead, we helped her speak up—and now she leads the entire agency.”

When Mindset Blocks the Next Move

“Another client thought he was just being realistic. Turns out, everyone else thought he was negative—and it was holding him back.”

Fear Strategy > Fearlessness

“You don’t need to be fearless. You need a plan for when fear shows up—and it always does.”

What to Do First (Before You Quit)

“Get clear. What’s actually happening? What do you want? What’s in your control? Clarity is the first rescue step.”

Self-Awareness Is the New Leadership Superpower

“Your values matter. So does how you’re wired. One person’s burnout is another person’s boredom—know your triggers.”

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#364 Sihame El Kaouakibi: Burnout, Bankruptcy, and the Beauty of Reinvention—Part Two May 12, 2025

What happens after you’ve lost everything—status, stability, and even your sense of self?

In Part Two, Sihame El Kaouakibi goes deeper into her journey of rebuilding: not just her career, but her core identity. From leaving toxic environments to redefining ambition, Sihame breaks down how Women Leaders OS came from her own healing, and how she now helps high-achieving women across cultures do the same.

She also opens up about why global coaching requires cultural fluency, why some success stories are just polished pain, and what it really means to be “enough” in a world obsessed with more. Whether you’re stuck in a golden cage or preparing for your next chapter, this episode is a lifeline—and a mirror.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Rock Bottom Was the Starting Line

“When you lose everything, the first thing to rebuild is belief—especially in yourself.”

Rejection = Redirection

“If you’re surviving instead of thriving, it’s time to quit. The environment shapes the outcome.”

You’re Not Too Emotional—You’re Just Not in the Right Room

“I was labeled difficult for being passionate. Turns out, I just needed a different tribe.”

What Women Leaders OS Really Means

“It’s not software—it’s a full system for healing, repurposing, and thriving after the fall.”

Building a Global Sisterhood, Not a One-Size-Fits-All Program

“My clients are from Belgium, the U.S., India, Singapore. Their pain is personal, but the patterns are universal.”

The Persona She Works With

“High-performing women who feel stuck, confused, or secretly miserable—those are my people.”

Career Pivots With Purpose

“Whether it’s closing a chapter or launching a new venture, I help women transition with clarity—not burnout.”

What Success Really Looks Like

“It’s not Instagram-perfect. It’s stumbling, growing, and showing up—again and again.”

Three Pieces of Advice for the Lost, Burnt Out, or Confused

“You don’t have to be perfect. The learning is in the doing. And no matter what—you are enough.”

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#363 Sihame El Kaouakibi: Burnout, Bankruptcy, and the Beauty of Reinvention—Part One May 12, 2025

What happens when a rising political star crashes—publicly, painfully, and all at once?

In Part One, Sihame El Kaouakibi, Moroccan-born former Belgian MP and five-time founder, shares the deeply personal story behind her public unraveling. Once a celebrated social entrepreneur and national leader, Sihame faced burnout, betrayal, and bankruptcy—all while navigating racism, politics, and impossible expectations.

But instead of disappearing, she rebuilt. This episode is a raw look at what it means to hit rock bottom, question your worth, and slowly rise again—stronger, clearer, and more committed to purpose than ever. If you’ve ever felt stuck, silenced, or lost in your own ambition, this one’s for you.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Burnout, Bankruptcy, and the Breakthrough

“I lost everything—my energy, my confidence, even my bank account. But it became fertile ground.”

When Validation Becomes Addiction

“I built my identity on achievements. Without them, I felt like nobody.”

Politics Was a Zero-Sum Game. So She Quit.

“Entrepreneurship was about creation. Politics was about survival—and I was dying inside.”

The Messiah Complex Trap

“I believed I could change everything. I was wrong—and I paid the price.”

The Privilege of Slowing Down

“I had to let go of control, ego, and my former self. Healing took three years—but it gave me my life back.”

The Environment You Choose Shapes the Outcome You Get

“You’re not stuck—you’re just in the wrong pot. Rejection can be redirection.”

Women Leaders OS: Built From Her Own Scars

“I help women go from burnout to breakthrough—not with hustle, but with internal belief and system-level support.”

The Ugly Side of Glamour

“People you envy might be drowning. Success isn’t always Instagram-pretty.”

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#362 James Hilovsky: From Pro Athlete to Franchise Matchmaker—Part Two May 12, 2025

Starting a franchise isn’t just a business move—it’s a mindset shift.

In Part Two, James Hilovsky—former athlete turned franchise consultant—goes beyond playbooks and into the real psychology of success. He explores why some athletes stumble when they let ego overtake strategy, how corporate professionals can regain control after layoffs, and why betting on yourself only works when you’re honest about what kind of help you need.

From risk tolerance to leadership, coachability to due diligence, this episode is packed with reality checks and real encouragement for anyone eyeing a second career through franchising. Whether you’re leaving the field or the boardroom, this is your roadmap for moving forward without going it alone.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

When Ego Derails the Dream

“Some athletes think, ‘I can do it better than the franchisor.’ That mindset usually ends badly.”

Coachable or Combative? Know the Difference

“If you hated taking advice on the field, franchising might not be for you. Try entrepreneurship instead.”

From Control to Chaos: Managing the Transition

“Athletes are used to structure. Business is messy. That gap has to be managed with education and support.”

Risk Is a Feature, Not a Bug

“Franchising reduces risk—but it doesn’t remove it. You still have to lead, decide, and adapt.”

Franchisor as Business Partner, Not Boss

“The best franchisors act like coaches. They’ll guide you—but they won’t run the plays for you.”

Red Flags in the Franchise World

“If someone tells you it’s a ‘hands-off’ business or dodges your due diligence questions—run.”

Advice for Non-Athletes

“If fear is stopping you, ask yourself: what’s the real cost of staying stuck?”

Doing the Homework Before the Leap

“Talk to existing franchisees. Read the FDD. And never skip the financials.”

The Impact That Keeps Him Going

“I love helping people find a franchise they didn’t even know existed—and watching it change their lives.”

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#361 James Hilovsky: From Pro Athlete to Franchise Matchmaker—Part One May 11, 2025

What happens after the cheering stops?

For James Hilovsky, it meant trading his baseball uniform for business ownership—and helping other athletes do the same. In Part One, James shares how his short-lived pro sports career led to 25 years in restaurant franchising, including scaling Pieology from one store to over 100.

Now, as a franchise consultant, James works with NFL and NBA players looking to invest wisely, build generational wealth, and transition from the field to the franchise world. He explains how the mindset of elite athletes—structured, coachable, and risk-tolerant—makes them natural fits for franchise success. If you’ve ever wondered what it takes to make the leap from sports to business, this episode is your playbook.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

From Dugout to Dining Room

“My playing career ended fast—but the restaurant world gave me a new team and a new game to master.”

Scaling Pieology: A Fast-Casual Success Story

“We went from one location to over 100 franchises. That’s where I really learned what franchisees need.”

Helping Athletes Avoid Bad Deals

“I saw too many players get pitched sketchy investments. I wanted to be a safe, informed resource.”

What COVID Taught Us About Franchising

“People were stuck at home, rethinking their jobs—and ready to bet on themselves.”

Sports Teams and Franchise Systems: More Alike Than You Think

“Both have playbooks. Both have coaches. And success comes from following the system.”

Why Athletes Thrive in Business

“They’re used to risk, coaching, and performance pressure. That’s the foundation of good franchisees.”

Case Study: From NFL to Mental Health Franchise

“A retired Super Bowl winner found purpose building a clinic network for athletes dealing with post-concussion trauma.”

Case Study: A Family Franchise Plan in Atlanta

“A former MLB player launched a dog grooming business—with his wife and kids running the first store.”

The Top 3 Qualities That Make Athletes Business-Ready

“Risk tolerance, coachability, and natural leadership. That’s the winning combo.”

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#360 Bridget Burns: Breaking the Higher Ed Hunger Games—Part Two May 11, 2025

If students are graduating into a broken job market, can we really call that success?

In Part Two, Bridget Burns, CEO of the University Innovation Alliance, zooms out to expose the cracks between graduation and employment—and shares what it actually takes to close them. From outdated career services buried in basement offices to siloed AI initiatives happening in secret, Bridget makes the case for a total redesign of higher education’s operating system.

With a blend of empathy and systems thinking, she outlines how her team redesigned career prep using design sprints, empathy interviews, and playbooks adopted across campuses. If you care about mobility, modern learning, or making education work for today’s students, this conversation goes beyond policy—it gets personal.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Nobody Likes Change—Unless It’s Theirs

“Everyone who says they like change is a liar. You only like the change you helped create.”

Empathy Is a Skill, Not a Soft Word

“People are walking around with broken hearts—because leaders shelved the thing they built or made them feel disposable.”

AI in Higher Ed: Same Problems, New Arms Race

“Thousands of staff are working on the same AI problem in silos. What a waste.”

The Risk of Reinventing the Wheel—Again and Again

“Everyone’s designing alone, heads down. Students lose while schools compete.”

Career Services, Reimagined from Scratch

“We mapped the mess, interviewed students, and redesigned career prep as part of the classroom—not just a résumé workshop in the basement.”

Faculty as Career Coaches? Yes, and Here’s How

“We embedded career activities into every course, starting from day one.”

From Data Deserts to Playbooks

“Most schools didn’t even track career services usage. That’s not strategy—that’s hiding the scoreboard.”

The Real Measure of Value: Social Mobility at Scale

“We’re done with ‘graduate and goodbye.’ Now we’re building systems that track—and improve—students’ lives after college.”

Designing a Smart Future, Not Just Smart Classrooms

“Higher ed wasn’t built for today’s students. We’re fixing that—with urgency, alignment, and a new North Star: mobility.”

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#359 Bridget Burns: Breaking the Higher Ed Hunger Games—Part One May 11, 2025

If higher education feels like the Hunger Games, Dr. Bridget Burns is building the resistance.

In Part One, Bridget shares her journey from growing up in rural Montana to becoming CEO of the University Innovation Alliance—a national coalition of public research universities working together (yes, together) to improve outcomes for low-income and first-generation students.

She pulls back the curtain on the real problem in academia: a culture of competition, hierarchy, and duplicated failure masked as innovation. Instead, she offers a new model: universities learning from each other, mapping broken processes, and holding themselves accountable to real results. This episode is for anyone tired of hearing that higher ed can’t change—and ready to hear from someone who’s actually changing it.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Out of the Cul-De-Sac: Bridget’s Escape from Rural Isolation

“I grew up surrounded by racism, misogyny, and homophobia. Getting out was everything.”

From Student Leader to System Architect

“At 22, I went from student government to hiring university presidents. That’s when I saw how broken the system really was.”

The Problem Isn’t Resistance to Change—It’s Bad Design

“No one resists change when it’s their idea. We resist top-down mandates that ignore lived experience.”

Why Higher Ed Feels Like a Zero-Sum Game

“Presidents are rewarded for beating each other in rankings, not for helping more students graduate.”

Building the University Innovation Alliance

“I wasn’t trying to form a club. I wanted to create a working lab for collaborative problem-solving.”

The Trust-Building Work No One Sees

“I flew to 11 campuses, built real relationships, and got them to sign off on data sharing and joint accountability.”

How Process Mapping Saved 450 Emails and 50 Student Holds

“Michigan State found it was overwhelming new students with hundreds of emails and dozens of unknown account blocks—just by putting everyone in the same room.”

From Bureaucrat to Entrepreneur

“Michael Crow told me I’d need to break out of my bureaucratic mindset. He was right. I had to become a builder.”

Innovation Isn’t Flashy—It’s Often Inconvenient

“We glamorize innovation, but it’s messy. Slower. More painful. That’s why it needs to be built around people, not power.”

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#358 Mary Shea: From Oboe Solos to Sales Strategy—A Career Reinvented — Part Three May 10, 2025

Let’s be honest—today’s job search often feels like shouting into the void.

In Part Three, Mary Shea—former General Manager at HireQuotient and co-CEO at Mediafly—tackles the modern job market from both sides of the table. She pulls back the curtain on how AI is reshaping recruitment: from sourcing passive candidates to fighting unconscious bias, automating outreach, and uncovering overlooked talent. But this isn’t a tech sales pitch—Mary gets real about what AI can’t do (like fix a broken candidate experience) and why human empathy still matters most.

Whether you’re a recruiter overwhelmed by applications or a job seeker ghosted by someone half your age, this episode is your career compass for a chaotic hiring landscape.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

AI That Actually Helps Recruiters Breathe

“We offload 75% of the workload—so recruiters can stop drowning in admin and start connecting again.”

Talent Hiding in Plain Sight

“Using multiple data sources, we find candidates others miss—especially underrepresented voices skipped by bots.”

When the Résumé Lies—or Leaves Too Much Out

“Some of the best candidates don’t list everything. That’s where smart prompting and human judgment must align.”

Automation ≠ Apathy

“Done right, AI doesn’t depersonalize the process—it gives recruiters more time to be human.”

Recruiting for the C-Suite? Yes, AI Can Help There Too

“I used it to hire my Chief Customer Officer. Diverse candidates, faster process, better outcome.”

The Real Human Cost of Getting It Wrong

“First impressions matter. A bad recruiting experience damages more than the candidate—it hurts your brand.”

Vince Shares His Story—And It Hits Home

A real-life example of age bias, HR tech gone wrong, and why leadership still requires presence and respect.

Mary’s Advice to Job Seekers

“Be granular. Use LinkedIn wisely. But never forget—every opportunity still starts with a relationship.”

Networking Isn’t Dead—You’re Just Doing It Wrong

“In-person, virtual, or omnichannel—connect deeply, not just digitally. That’s how humans hire.”

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#357 Mary Shea: From Oboe Solos to Sales Strategy—A Career Reinvented — Part Two May 10, 2025

Is two better than one?

In Part Two of this series, Mary Shea—former co-CEO of Mediafly and former General Manager at Hire Quotient—shares how she navigated one of the most unconventional leadership models in business: co-CEOship. From building trust with her co-leader to balancing responsibilities across time zones and product lines, Mary unpacks the human side of shared power—and why mutual respect beats ego every time.

She also explores how AI is transforming sales effectiveness, not just efficiency, and why today’s revenue teams need to look more like collaborative ecosystems than traditional hierarchies. Plus: what every leader can learn from marriage, tennis, and the occasional business referee.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

AI for Sales: More Than Speed, It’s Strategy

“We’re not replacing reps—we’re freeing them up for high-impact work. That’s the real ROI of AI.”

The Death of the 80/20 Rule?

“With smarter tools, smaller teams can do more. We’re heading toward 80% of sellers driving 100% of revenue.”

AI as a Coach, Not a Crutch

“Think of AI as a coach on your shoulder. Helpful, but never a substitute for personalization or judgment.”

Behind the Scenes of Co-CEO Life

“It works because we trust each other. We split duties, share a vision, and treat decisions like a dialogue—not a turf war.”

The Marriage Metaphor (Yes, It Fits)

“Being a co-CEO is like a professional marriage. You need communication, shared values—and sometimes an executive coach.”

Slower Decisions, Stronger Outcomes

“We may debate more than solo CEOs. But those debates lead to smarter, more resilient choices.”

When the Umpire Steps In

“If we hit an impasse, we turn to our board and investors. Every partnership needs a higher court.”

Scaling Without Silos

“We empower leaders as mini-CEOs—but only if we keep the org aligned. Otherwise, remote work just breeds islands.”

The Bigger Game: Building Equity Through Leadership

“AI, revenue, strategy—it all comes back to who gets to lead. And how we help more people rise.”

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#356 Mary Shea: From Oboe Solos to Sales Strategy—A Career Reinvented — Part One May 10, 2025

Mary Shea didn’t follow a traditional path. She composed her own.

In Part One of this three-part series, Mary walks us through the bold decisions that took her from professional oboist to PhD to sales analyst—and eventually to co-CEO of Mediafly. Along the way, she’s picked up more than titles: she’s developed a philosophy that blends intellectual rigor, creative play, and social equity.

She opens up about what it’s like to enter the business world a decade “behind” her peers, the financial freedom sales can offer underrepresented leaders, and how she’s helping build not just tech products—but leadership pipelines that reflect the real world.
This episode is for anyone thinking of switching lanes, catching up, or starting over.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

From Mexico to Management: Her Unlikely Start

“I played oboe in symphonies, earned a PhD in musicology—and then started over in sales.”

Sales as a Social Equalizer

“If you’re good at it, you can rewrite your life. It gave me the power to fund causes, uplift others, and lead on my own terms.”

Behind, But Not for Long

“I came into business 10 years behind my peers. That lit a fire—I moved fast, and I moved with purpose.”

Creating the Playbook, Not Just Following It

“I need intellectual stimulation. Managing is fine, but building strategy? That’s what lights me up.”

Enabling Others Is the New Power Move

“My role now is to empower my team like mini-CEOs. Their wins are my metric.”

Scaling With a Human Lens

“We acquired five companies in under two years—not to show off, but to build something smarter, faster, and more inclusive.”

Pushing for True Diversity in Sales

“Only one-third of B2B sellers are women. That has to change—and I’m using my platform to help drive it.”

Mediafly’s Mission: More Than Sales Enablement

“From revenue intelligence to buyer engagement, we’re building the full tech stack—without losing sight of people.”

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#355 Tin Pei Ling: Making Motherhood, Parliament, and Progress Work—Her Way May 08, 2025

Becoming Singapore’s youngest parliamentarian was just the beginning.

In Part Two of this conversation, Tin Pei Ling reflects on how she’s evolved as a leader, mother, policymaker, and public voice. From walking the campaign trail just days after giving birth, to pursuing an MBA mid-term while managing a constituency, her path isn’t about having it all—it’s about knowing what to give, and when.

She opens up about the guilt of missing milestones, the value of learning from older peers, and the real cost of public service. She also shares her ongoing fight for women’s empowerment, elderly inclusion, mental wellness, and Singapore’s digital future. For anyone navigating multiple roles at once, Pei Ling’s story is a case study in conviction—and quiet strength.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Why She Chose an MBA—After Already Getting Elected

“Politics was public. But I needed something personal—to grow, stretch, and see the world differently.”

What Booth Taught Her (Besides Economics)

“I wasn’t just learning frameworks. I was building a new lens through which to see leadership.”

Motherhood, Duty, and the Election That Didn’t Wait

“Two weeks after giving birth, I was out campaigning. I came home to a baby who’d grown before my eyes.”

There’s No Perfect Balance—Only Trade-Offs

“As an MP, an employee, and a mother, I’ve had to make hard choices. But I’ve never walked alone.”

Why Support Systems Are Everything

“Behind every successful woman is an ecosystem. Mine includes teammates, voters, bosses, and family.”

From Guilt to Advocacy: Fighting for Women’s Aspirations

“Not everyone has what I had. That’s why I fight for better policies—for every woman with a dream.”

Mental Health, Aging, and the Power of Policy

“Youth need tools. Seniors need dignity. My job is to speak for both.”

Why Digital Fluency Is a Women’s Issue Too

“Tech can empower women—if we help them unlock it. That’s what smart nations really need: smart, supported women.”

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#354 Tin Pei Ling: What It Takes to Be Singapore’s Youngest Member of Parliament May 08, 2025

What happens when your first job in politics comes with public ridicule, online harassment, and sky-high expectations?

At 27, Tin Pei Ling became Singapore’s youngest female Member of Parliament. But what looked like a bold milestone from the outside was also the darkest chapter of her life. In Part One of this candid conversation, Pei Ling opens up about walking away from a stable consulting job, the backlash she faced as a “too young” candidate, and why she chose to fight for trust instead of attention.

This is not a story about instant triumph. It’s a story about resilience in public, self-doubt in private, and choosing to grow anyway. Whether you’re 22 or 52, this episode redefines what it means to earn your place—without needing to shout for it.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

From Psychology to Politics: A Career Rerouted by Life

“My dream was to be a clinical psychologist—but when my father had a heart attack, everything changed.”

The Consulting Detour That Built Her Backbone

“Ernst & Young taught me structure, speed, and how to handle steep learning curves. I still use that training today.”

The Election That Changed Everything

“I was the youngest, the newest, the most criticized—and it nearly broke me.”

A Sacred Duty, Not Just a Title

“Once I got elected, I quit my job. If people trusted me with their votes, I had to give them my full time.”

No Days Off: What Real Ground Work Looks Like

“Parliament, emails, grassroots events—being an MP means being on call, always.”

How She Faced Ageism—and Turned It Into Strength

“People looked at me and asked, ‘Who are you to understand my life?’ I answered with presence, not perfection.”

Silence, Cynicism, and Social Media Attacks

“People made up stories about my personal life. Every night I cried, every morning I showed up again.”

Why She’s Still Grateful for the Pain

“That period shaped my emotional growth. Today, I’m more resilient—and I have a story that might help someone else.”

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#353 Fatou Sagna Sow: From French Banking to Building Africa’s Next Generation May 08, 2025

Would you leave a powerful career in global banking, pack up your family, and start over in a developing country?

That’s exactly what Fatou Sagna Sow did. Born and raised in Paris, she built a high-flying legal career at some of the world’s top banks—leading teams, managing billion-dollar deals, and thriving in the French system. But it wasn’t enough. In 2016, she returned to Senegal to write a new playbook—one rooted in identity, impact, and intercontinental connection.

In this episode, Fatou shares how she navigated fear, culture shifts, and politics to become a driving force in Senegal’s economic development. From banana-fiber sanitary pads to Japan-Africa tech exchanges, she’s creating a cross-border entrepreneurship model that blends French precision with Senegalese ambition.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

From Paris to Dakar: Why She Left It All Behind

“I had a great career in France—but I wasn’t challenging myself anymore. Senegal was calling.”

Motherhood as Motivation

“I wanted my kids to know their roots. To grow up understanding both cultures, without borders.”

Building Power Through Politics

“Politics helped me understand Senegal’s real economy—and gave me a network I still rely on today.”

Becoming a Technical Advisor to the Prime Minister

“Just two years after I moved, I was advising on blue economy, green economy, and industrial policy. It changed how I saw my role.”

Banana Fiber Meets Social Innovation: The Luna Na Project

“We’re turning banana waste into sanitary pads. It’s never been done before in Senegal—and it’s changing lives.”

Creating Bridges, Not Borders

“I bring together young talent from France and Senegal. They collaborate, co-create, and even co-own the ventures they launch here.”

From France to Monaco, Then Japan: Global Partnerships for Local Growth

“I’m working with embassies, economic councils, and corporate leaders to connect young Africans with opportunity around the world.”

The Hardest Part: Letting Go of Stability

“I left a stable job with great pay. The fear was real. But so was the mission.”

New Deal Consulting: Writing Her Own Law Book for Change

“As a lawyer, I followed rules. Now I create new ones—for impact, for equity, and for the next generation.”
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#352 Wayne Turmel: Leading Without Micromanaging in the Hybrid Mess May 07, 2025

Hybrid work was supposed to be the future—but it’s feeling more like a tug-of-war.

Wayne Turmel, co-author of The Long-Distance Leader, has spent two decades studying how we lead across distance—and what falls apart when we don’t. In this episode, Wayne explains why most return-to-office plans are more negotiation than strategy, how unexamined proximity bias silently shapes promotions, and why hybrid leadership isn’t about place—it’s about intentionality.

Whether you’re managing global teams or trying to avoid burnout-by-Zoom, this conversation will help you rethink what modern leadership actually requires—and how to do it without micromanaging or burning people out.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Leadership Before Location: The First Rule of Remote Work

“If you’re a weak leader in person, remote will make it worse. Hybrid just exposes the cracks faster.”

Genghis Khan Didn’t Need WebEx—You Don’t Need Chaos

“Leading from afar isn’t new. But today, we confuse tech tools with leadership itself.”

Proximity Bias: The Promotion No One Talks About

“People in the office get more attention—whether we mean to favor them or not. That’s not strategy. That’s inertia.”

Why Hybrid Isn’t Really Hybrid

“Three-day compromises aren’t hybrid strategies. Most companies are just seeing how far they can push before people quit.”

Deep Work, Loud Offices, and Cake in the Break Room

“Don’t bring people back just to distract them. Save the office for coaching, collaboration, and trust-building.”

Synchronous vs. Asynchronous: It’s About Time (Literally)

“If you’re clocking in remotely on someone else’s schedule, you’re not working hybrid—you’re just working differently.”

Amazon, Turnover, and the Future of Micromanagement

“With 150% annual churn, maybe it’s not a location problem. Maybe it’s a leadership one.”

High Finance vs. High Flexibility

“Jamie Dimon’s playbook may work for Wall Street. But others are asking: does it have to be that way?”

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#351 Juliana Schroeder: AI, Power, and the Psychology of Human Connection May 07, 2025

The way we communicate is changing—but what does that mean for the humans doing the talking?

Dr. Juliana Schroeder, associate professor at UC Berkeley Haas, has spent her career unpacking how we perceive other minds—both human and machine. In this episode, she breaks down how AI isn’t just reshaping tech—it’s reshaping the psychology of communication itself. From virtual assistants to algorithmic bias, and from voice cues to power dynamics, Juliana offers a grounded look at what we gain (and risk losing) as AI enters our social and professional lives.

For executives, educators, and anyone raising kids in a world of voice bots and Zoom calls, Juliana’s insights are both sobering and empowering: technology may evolve, but the need for mindful, human-centered interaction is here to stay.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Mind Behind the Mind: Why She Studies Perception

“Humans can’t read minds—but we act like we can. I study how we form beliefs about others’ thoughts and feelings—and where those beliefs go wrong.”

From Hard Science to Human Behavior

A former physics student, Juliana fell in love with psychology’s messier questions: persuasion, power, and decision-making.

Alexa, Am I in Charge?

“When we treat virtual assistants like humans, we start to feel powerful. That shift can change how we act—sometimes for the worse.”

The Confirmation Bias Trap of AI

“LLMs like ChatGPT often reflect what we say, not what we need. They’re agreeable by design—and that creates a unique kind of echo chamber.”

Medium Matters: Why Voice Beats Text

“Text strips out nuance. Voice restores it. If you want to be seen as warm, competent, or persuasive—don’t rely on email.”

Hiring, Algorithms, and the Need for Transparency

“When high-stakes decisions get outsourced to black-box AI, people rebel. We still want a human in the loop.”

Designing Better Conversations—With Humans and Machines

What if your AI pushed back? Juliana imagines future assistants with ‘sass’ to counteract human overconfidence.

What Leaders Should (Still) Master

“Great communicators don’t just speak—they switch modalities when needed. They know when to email, when to Zoom, and when to step away.”

More Tech ≠ Better Talk

“Too many tools can backfire. The best leaders know how to reduce distraction and amplify meaning—whether talking to humans or machines.”
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#350 Lucy Gernon: Redefining Confidence—No Quotes, No Apologies May 07, 2025

Confidence might be the most overused word in leadership—but Lucy Gernon is here to give it teeth.

After two decades in the pharmaceutical world, Lucy faced a moment of reckoning when a family tragedy pushed her to stop waiting and start living on her own terms. Now, as a multi-award-winning executive coach and founder of the Executive Presence Blueprint, she helps high-achieving women get out of their own heads—and into positions of power.

In this episode, Lucy opens up about overcoming self-doubt, people-pleasing, and the inner critic that once held her back. From side hustle strategies to emotional intelligence and inclusive leadership, she shares what it really takes to build confidence that lasts—not the kind that sounds good on Pinterest, but the kind that actually gets you promoted.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

From Science to Stage: A Career Rewired by Purpose

“Even as a microbiologist, I always loved people more than Petri dishes.”

The Wake-Up Call: When Life Says ‘Go Now’

“When my father-in-law died suddenly, I realized: I was living to please others, not myself.”

Why She Stopped Quoting Gurus and Started Trusting Herself

“I used to borrow quotes—until a coach said, ‘What about your frameworks?’ That changed everything.”

The Confidence Myth, Debunked

“It’s not about being loud. It’s about being certain—in your voice, your value, your vision.”

Motherhood, Mortgages, and Making It Work

“I didn’t leap blindly—I side-hustled, saved, tested, and built. Strategy beats spontaneity.”

What Executive Presence Looks Like Now (Hint: Not a Guy in a Suit)

Harvard data, leadership shifts, and why charisma, inclusion, and vision matter more than ever.

Her Signature Framework for Female Leaders

Gravitas, communication, appearance—and the one trait that still tops them all: confidence.

Learning to Let Go: Why Clients Must Do the Work

“It’s not my job to fix someone. The right clients are ready to act, not just listen.”

AI and Coaching: Collaborators, Not Competitors

“I use AI every day—to refine frameworks, spark ideas, and scale tools. But human connection? That’s irreplaceable.”

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#349 Benedikt Oehmen: Layoffs, Level-Ups, and the ‘Big Three’ for Starting Over May 06, 2025

What happens when the dream job turns into a corporate casualty?

Benedikt Oehmen spent nearly two decades at Blizzard—first as a support staffer, then a beloved team leader—only to watch the company’s gamer-first culture erode after its merger with Activision. When layoffs came, it wasn’t just a paycheck he lost. It was identity, community, and certainty.

But Benedikt didn’t stay stuck. He pivoted from game development to career redevelopment—first coaching his own team through grief and transition, then launching a business to guide others through the same.

In this episode, he shares his powerful “Big Three” framework—Be Kind, Be Present, Be Open—along with practical tools for anyone facing layoffs, career upheaval, or a post-corporate identity crisis. It’s not just theory—it’s lived wisdom from someone who’s been there.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Blizzard Beginnings: From Physics to Warcraft

“I took a semester off physics to try working at Blizzard… 17 years later, I was still there.”

When Work Feels Like Family—Until It Doesn’t

“It wasn’t just a job. We played together, worked together, partied together. And then came the layoffs.”

Culture Clash: When Epic Games Turn Into Earnings Reports

“After the Activision merger, all we heard was: how do we make more money?”

Career Plot Twist: Coaching Instead of Collapsing

“I stayed to help my team transition. That’s when I discovered coaching—and myself.”

No More Overlords: Why He Chose Life After Layoffs

“I didn’t want to keep making rich people richer. I wanted to help geeks like me take back control.”

The Big Three: A Framework for Reinvention

Be Kind. Be Present. Be Open. Simple words, real results.

Mistakes = Learning in Disguise

“Writing a book felt impossible—until I reframed it. Not ‘write a book.’ Just ‘become a person who writes daily.’”

From Grief to Growth: Why Change Can Still Be Kind

“It’s okay to mourn the past. But if you listen to your future self, you’ll start moving again.”

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#348 Ian Myers: From Tintin to Talent—Building Global Teams With Soul May 06, 2025

Ian Myers isn’t here to give you startup hacks—he’s here to tell the truth.

At just 26, he became a CEO. By 30, he’d built Oceans, a $10 million agency connecting skilled professionals in Sri Lanka with U.S. startups. But his story isn’t a straight line—it’s an open map. From literature to venture capital, Japan to New York, success and failure, Ian has treated life like a Tintin adventure: follow the clues, embrace the chaos, and keep going.

In this conversation, we dig into what really fuels a global entrepreneur—from Buddhist philosophy to a bias for action—and how Ian’s building a future-of-work company that’s human-first, not hype-driven. For anyone rethinking college, career paths, or the AI takeover, Ian offers something rarer than advice: perspective.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Tintin Over Tech Bros: Why Curiosity Beats Calculation

“My role model isn’t Musk or Zuck—it’s Tintin. He’s fearless, inquisitive, and always exploring something new.”

Zen and the Founder’s Mind

“Buddhism taught me how to stay grounded through chaos. That mindset shaped how I lead.”

LinkedIn Paralysis Is Real. Here’s What to Do Instead.

“People tell me, ‘My classmate’s a VP already—I’ve failed.’ That thinking’s toxic. Just follow what’s interesting.”

Ageism, Across Borders

“In Japan, your age trumps your ideas. It pushed me toward entrepreneurship.”

Oceans: Talent Without Borders

“We embed Sri Lankan professionals into U.S. startups—not as temps, but as core team members.”

AI, Hype, and the Reality Check

“Yes, AI is impressive. But like every tech wave, adoption will take longer than people think.”

The Diversity Dilemma: Who Gets a Seat at the (Remote) Table?

“We’ve turned down clients who wanted ‘an attractive female EA.’ We hire for skill, not stereotypes.”

Don’t Overplot Your Life.

“The world’s chaotic. You won’t chart a perfect course. Just keep moving—and recalibrate as you go.”

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#347 May Yeung: Sculpting Impact from Dim Sum to Disability Inclusion May 06, 2025

For the first time, the Chief Change Officer podcast returns to its birthplace—Hong Kong—to spotlight local artist and community builder May Yeung.

From doodling on walls at age two to sculpting giant dim sum steamers for public exhibitions, May’s journey is anything but typical. She swapped Goldman Sachs for gallery spaces, battled cancer with faith (and clay), and now leads Art of My Family, a charity that brings art, healing, and heritage to underprivileged youth across Hong Kong. Whether it’s mental wellness programs, intergenerational education, or marine-themed installations made from recycled shells, May turns every life experience into a canvas for good. Bonus: her baby son Archer makes a surprise guest appearance—arguably stealing the show.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Draw First, Write Later: A Childhood in Color

“I drew on walls before I could write my name… by twelve, I knew I’d be an artist.”

When Music Shapes the Clay

From piano lessons with Hong Kong’s top musicians to dance-sculpture mashups, May’s art listens before it speaks.

The Goldman Pivot: Finding Purpose Through CSR

“I helped organize community art after Hurricane Sandy. That’s when the impact bug bit.”

From Cancer to Conviction: The ALT of Art

“Faith, feeling alive, touching lives—cancer gave me a new mission, not just new scars.”

Archer Joins the Show: A Toddler-Sized Shift in Artistic Purpose

“Motherhood made me realize: my art must nourish the next generation—his and others’.”

Dim Sum, Ping Pong, and Bamboo Dreams

From Chinese checkers to handmade steamers, May’s art honors Hong Kong’s everyday beauty.

‘What If’ and ‘Blossom Love’: Sculpting Global Conversations

“What If” made her the first Asian sculptor to exhibit at Rockefeller Chapel; “Blossom Love” built a cultural bridge between Hong Kong and the Netherlands.

Why ‘Art of My Family’ Isn’t Just a Name

May’s nonprofit uses art to serve mental health, sustainability, and inclusion—with the three C’s: co-design, co-create, co-learn.

Mission: Teaching Artists Who Teach From Life

“I’m not just instructing—I’m modeling the mess, joy, and resilience of the creative path.”
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#346 Vince Jeong: Scaling Learning Without Losing Soul May 06, 2025

Vince Jeong isn’t your typical edtech founder—and this isn’t your typical training conversation.

After immigrating to Canada at 12 and learning English from scratch, Vince chased uncertainty across five continents and a dozen careers—from McKinsey to NGOs in Tanzania to Latin American startups. That winding path led him to one insight: real learning happens when real people engage together, not alone.

Now as CEO of Sparkwise, he’s scaling live group learning in ways that mirror the best of Harvard and McKinsey—without the tuition price tag or talent filters. In this episode, we unpack how Vince is reimagining adult learning for corporations, creators, and communities alike. If you’re bored to tears by lifeless courses and stale corporate training, tune in for a vision that makes learning social again.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Immigrant Experience 101: Rebuilding Myself at Age 12

“Moving from Korea to Canada without speaking English forced me to rediscover who I was.”

Curiosity Beats Certainty: The Career Built by Exploration

“I chased the unknown—Tanzania, Colombia, consulting—because experience is the only way to find what matters.”

Why Group Learning Beats Solo Slides

“Learning isn’t about dumping information. It’s about building shared understanding in real time.”

From Stage to Startup: Live Group Dynamics Are in My DNA

“I hosted live shows on Korean TV, emceed weddings, and ran workshops—I’ve always brought people together.”

Scaling Harvard-Style Learning Without the Harvard Price

“We’re making elite-level training experiences accessible to more people—without compromising quality.”

Human > Hashtag: Rebuilding Community That’s More Than Skin Deep

“Social media gave us networks, not connection. We’re creating the space for meaningful group interaction again.”

Partners in Impact: Who Sparkwise Was Built For

“Our tools are for those who want richer learning—or want to scale what they offer without losing touch.”

The Content Wake-Up Call: AI Can’t Replace Real Dialogue

“Content’s getting commoditized. The future lies in how we apply, discuss, and activate it together.”

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#345 Sienna Jackson: From Hollywood to Hard Metrics — Part Two May 05, 2025

Sienna Jackson, the CEO of Nortera.io, walks us through her unexpected shift from entertainment executive to impact strategist. Rather than chasing a title, she followed a thread—registering an LLC, collecting ideas, and finally stepping into work that aligned with her values. Now, she’s helping professionalize the field of social impact by focusing on measurable outcomes, not slogans. From impact modeling to cross-sector coalitions, Sienna shows how complex change starts behind the scenes—with better systems, shared language, and a refusal to settle for surface-level good.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

When Pivoting Isn’t a Plan—but a Pattern

“I just said, ‘I’m doing social impact now.’ But it was a pattern—an arc I had been on for a while.”

She slowly started buying domains, registering an LLC, and collecting ideas. By 2020, she sent one email—“I’m doing social impact now”—and launched into a new chapter that was already quietly in motion.

Why ‘Impact’ Needs More Than Good Intentions

“Impact is the net positive change rendered as a direct and material result of your actions.”

She calls out the performative fluff in corporate social messaging—empty slogans with no metrics behind them.

Building the Back-End of Good

“I learned about logic models, stakeholder analysis, systems mapping… It’s data modeling, it’s survey design.”

Armed with two master’s degrees, Sienna dove deep into IMM—impact management and measurement. She joined Social Value US to help professionalize the field with standards, surveys, and frameworks.

Coalitions, Not Silos

“The left hand often doesn’t know what the right hand is doing. I see my role as making connections.”

Sienna flags a recurring problem: siloed thinking. Her strength lies in speaking both, creating coalitions where collaboration and systems alignment make real change possible.

Everyone Has a Piece of the Puzzle

“Go find the people who are already doing the work—and support them. That’s where the results come from.”

You don’t have to start the movement; just roll up your sleeves and help those already in it.

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#344 Sienna Jackson: From Hollywood to Hard Metrics — Part One May 05, 2025

From film sets to SaaS, Sienna Jackson has lived through more than one reinvention. A two-time founder, former entertainment executive, and current tech CEO, she joins Chief Change Officer to break down what it means to build, to create, and to change—on your own terms.

In Part 1, she shares what it was really like working in the music and production trenches at the Weinstein Company, how she navigated a high-glamour industry with clear-eyed curiosity, and why she never let a job title define her.

But it’s her unfiltered take on generative AI that steals the show. Sienna dismantles the hype, calling it what it is: regurgitated content dressed as intelligence. From energy waste to algorithmic bias, she unpacks the hidden cost of convenience—and why human storytelling still matters.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

From Red Carpets to Real Work

“All the Quinton Tarantino films, all the Oscar Batty films… Project Runway… I also worked on our internal music catalog… and it would just be usually me and Richard for most of that run.”

Curiosity > Career Ladder

“I thought I was going to be the rebel… I was doing things during the Arab Spring… I also reported on the honor killing of one of my classmates when I was 16.”

AI ≠ Creativity

“Some people will say AI-generated art is art. And I think that’s a misnomer… Art is an action. It’s something that you do. It reflects technical skill that you have to develop over time.”

The Hidden Cost of ‘Smart’

“There are human beings at the other end of the pipeline… being paid pennies on the hour to train chatbots… it uses up 10 to 30 times more energy.”

Garbage In, Garbage Out

“GenAI will reify or reinforce patterns… there’ve been significant issues with algorithmic bias on the axes of race… who gets an insurance policy or not.”

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#343 Brian Sims: From State House to Soul Work—Driving Change With Smarter Tools — Part Two May 05, 2025

Brian Sims, the CEO of Agenda PAC, walks us through what it was really like inside the halls of power—getting his mic cut on the House floor, confronting closeted anti-LGBTQ colleagues, and learning the limits of both strategy and ego. Now in the private sector, he’s using data to fight back—not with louder voices, but with smarter ones.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

When the Mic Goes Dead

“I got half a word out. Then it cut. They didn’t even pretend it was technical.”

No Friends Across the Aisle

“They all voted against us—100% of the time. Colleagues? Yes. Friends? Absolutely not.”

Losing the Big Fights

“I wrote the Equal Pay Act. I wrote the state’s Marriage Equality bill. Neither passed. And I had to learn: that’s not failure—it’s legacy work.”

Arrogance vs. Strategy

“I thought just being bold was the answer. It wasn’t.”

A New Way to Win

“Now I use data to expose the gap—between what voters want and how leaders behave.”

Fighting Dirty ≠ Fighting Back

“There’s a difference. And it matters. You can run into the fire without lighting yourself on fire.”

Change the Decision Makers, Not Just Their Minds

“Every single thing I’ve ever cared about gets better when more women, more people of color, and more LGBTQ people hold power.”

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#342 Brian Sims: From State House to Soul Work—Driving Change With Smarter Tools — Part One May 04, 2025

From a military childhood to a college football captain, Brian Sims didn’t exactly grow up in activist circles. But a fiercely independent mother and a slow-burning coming-out story set the stage for something bigger.

In Part One, Brian, the CEO of Agenda PAC, opens up about finding his voice, leaving law for civil rights work, and eventually winning his first election—becoming the first out gay man elected to Pennsylvania’s state legislature.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Raised by Leaders

“Both my parents were lieutenant colonels. I grew up on army bases, but my mom was always the only woman in uniform.”

Confidence Is Contagious

“She wasn’t arrogant. She just always knew who she was.”

Coming Out Through Brotherhood

“My football teammates asked if I was gay… and then wrapped me in the most awkward but beautiful kind of love.”

A Gay Job and a Day Job

“I had a law firm paycheck. But my soul work? LGBTQ civil rights.”

Why He Ran

“I couldn’t change their minds. So I ran to change the people holding the power.”

David vs. Goliath

“She’d been in office since I was three years old. I beat her by 233 votes.”

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#341 Jennifer Selby Long: Politics, Power, and the Choice to Stay or Go May 04, 2025

In this final installment, Gen X executive coach Jennifer Selby Long goes deep on the real decision behind office politics: should you stay or should you go?

Drawing from decades of experience guiding leaders through complex change, she lays out the subtle dynamics that determine whether a culture is salvageable—or just stuck. From the hidden toll of hybrid models to bosses who subtly push out high performers, Jennifer offers tools for cutting through confusion. And with a memorable framework inspired by civil rights leader Clarence Jones, she helps listeners evaluate not just what they want—but whether the system they’re in will ever let them have it.

For Gen Xers caught in the gray area between loyalty and realism, this episode offers clarity with no illusions.

>>Why Toxic Cultures Repeat

“People leave a bad boss… only to land in a similar situation.”

Jennifer explains how unaddressed internal patterns can reappear in new jobs—and what to do before making another move.

>>Hybrid Work, Hidden Agendas

“If your team isn’t working together in person, politics won’t disappear—they’ll just change form.”

She discusses the tradeoffs of hybrid workplaces and how physical distance can mask, not eliminate, power struggles.

>>When the Best Performers Leave

“I’ve seen bosses quietly engineer ways to push out brilliant people.”

Jennifer and Vince unpack the dynamic where insecurity—not excellence—shapes who gets to stay.

>>Conflict is Not the Enemy

“Most people waste time fighting battles that could’ve been solved with a conversation.”

She breaks down how conflict-avoidance fuels politics—and why stepping back to understand styles and misalignment is essential.

>>Clarence Jones’ Test for Staying or Leaving

“You won’t prevail unless the powerful majority sees that what you want is in their interest.”

Jennifer shares hard-earned political wisdom: how to evaluate whether your values and goals can survive the system—or if it’s time to walk.

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#340 Jennifer Selby Long: Office Politics Without the Eye-Roll May 04, 2025

In this third installment with Gen X executive coach Jennifer Selby Long, we zoom in on one of the messiest, most misunderstood realities of modern work: office politics.

Jennifer breaks down why politics often stem less from individual egos and more from structural dysfunction, emotional disconnection, and leadership blind spots—especially in hybrid teams. She explains how outdated views of leadership, chronic misalignment, and even cost-cutting decisions like slashed T&E budgets can quietly poison team trust. But this isn’t just a takedown—Jennifer arms listeners with a real-world playbook to navigate power struggles without becoming part of the problem.

For seasoned professionals tired of performative team building and empty culture talk, this episode reframes politics not as inevitable—but as solvable.

>>Politics ≠ Power-Hungry People

“The majority of leaders are not political animals.”

Jennifer challenges the stereotype that all office politics are about ego—revealing how misaligned strategy and trust gaps often create dysfunction.

>>Remote Work’s Invisible Cost

“You might not feel like getting on that plane… but complex decisions require in-person time.”

She explains how budget cuts, virtual distance, and hybrid habits are quietly damaging team cohesion.

>>Toxic by Design

“I’ve worked with clients who were pretty mercenary at first… but some became the most dedicated leaders.”

What happens when cold-blooded management isn’t an accident—but a strategy?

>>Five Moves to Navigate a Political Culture

“Stop venting. Start observing.”

Jennifer offers a practical five-step approach to surviving—and even reshaping—a political workplace, starting with curiosity, not complaints.

>>Why Some People Don’t Struggle with Politics at All

“There’s a portion of the population just wired to be unbothered by it.”

From temperament to neural wiring, she explains why some Gen Xers are naturally equipped to handle the drama without burnout.

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#339 Jennifer Selby Long: Gen X Wisdom for Saboteur Survival May 03, 2025

Jennifer Selby Long is no stranger to messy transformations. With three decades of experience in executive coaching, digital change, and tech leadership, she helps seasoned professionals navigate the personal minefield that comes with professional change.

In this second installment, Jennifer dives deep into neuroscience-backed insights on why we sabotage ourselves—and how to stop. She breaks down how our brains are wired for fear, how to spot the voice of the “judge,” and how misplaced loyalty to bad bosses or toxic companies keeps people stuck. But she doesn’t stop at analysis—she arms Gen Xers with tactical empathy, reframing techniques, and political savvy to make their next move smarter.

Because in a world where everyone’s changing, the winners aren’t the loudest—they’re the most self-aware.

>>The Science of Self-Sabotage

“Those negative voices? They’re not you. They’re old neural pathways—and you don’t have to obey them.”

Jennifer explains how childhood-formed saboteurs derail adult decision-making—and what to do about it.

>>How Judgment Blocks Reinvention

“If you’re judging yourself or others, the judge neural network is in charge—and it’s contagious.”

Learn how to spot the “inner judge” sabotaging your growth and weaken its grip before it wrecks your next chapter.

>>Escape the Bad Boss Loop

“Most people don’t leave bad bosses—they recreate them.”

Jennifer outlines five traps professionals fall into when trying to escape toxic leadership—and how to break the cycle for good.

>>Office Politics Without Selling Your Soul

“You’re not imagining it—some power games are real. But empathy is your best defense.”

From defensive email habits to managing power dynamics with grace, Jennifer offers non-sleazy tactics for Gen X leaders navigating messy org charts.

>>Redefining What ‘Winning’ Looks Like

“Change that sticks often doesn’t look like the win you planned—but it’s the win you needed.”

A fresh lens on how to reframe wins, even if they come in smaller, slower, or stranger packages than you expected.

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#338 Jennifer Selby Long: Personal Change First, Tech Change Second May 03, 2025

Jennifer Selby Long has spent 30 years helping leaders navigate change—long before “change management” became a buzzword.

In this episode, the Gen X executive coach reflects on how she stumbled into her calling during the early days of IT transformation, and why emotional intelligence—not just operational efficiency—is what drives successful digital change. Drawing from her own career pivots and coaching experiences, Jennifer explains how change must be mastered on a personal level before it can be led across an organization.

For Gen Xers who’ve seen multiple waves of tech disruption and economic downturns, her story reminds us: experience isn’t old news—it’s the operating system for modern leadership.

>>The Accidental Change Manager

“I became an accidental change manager in the early 90s.”

Jennifer shares how a basic IT training request exposed a deeper problem—one that launched her decades-long journey into change leadership.

>>Coaching Tech Leaders Through the Chaos

“We help leaders win at change.”

From digital transformation to cybersecurity to user experience, Jennifer explains why leadership—not just management—is the biggest missing link in most change initiatives.

>>A Gen X Career Rooted in Both People and Process

“I kept trying to do stable things, but the change kept coming at me.”

She describes how she went from resisting change to becoming its strategic champion—shaped by trial, error, and real-world messiness.

>>The Power of Performance Psychology

“Coaches aren’t therapists. They’re here to help you win.”

Her earliest coaching experience came from a sports psychologist—and that mindset still guides how she supports high performers today.

>>Understanding the Natural Process of Personal Change

“There are three stages: endings, transition, and new beginnings.”

Jennifer walks us through Bill Bridges’ model of change—and how leaders often forget their teams are still at the beginning when they’ve already moved on.

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#337 Waverly Deutsch: Coaching the Founders Most Systems Miss May 02, 2025

In Part 3, Waverly Deutsch steps into her latest role: founder of Wyseheart, a coaching firm designed to help the most overlooked founders build ventures that last. Focused on meaningful business, not unicorn exits, she brings her full career of coaching, teaching, and hard-won insight to early-stage leaders across age, gender, race, and identity.

For Gen Xers who aren’t ready to “retire,” this is a playbook for doing your best work—on your terms, with your values, and no need for external approval.

>>What Retirement Really Means to Her

“Retirement means you no longer have to work to cover basic necessities… but you work because you want to.”

Waverly explains why Wiseheart was never about building a high-growth company, but creating space for meaningful work in the next chapter of life.

>>Who Wiseheart Is Really For

“I might have a session with you and turn you down as a client.”

She describes her ideal clients: early-stage founders with strong ideas and potential—but she’s selective, because she coaches from belief, not obligation.

>>Opening Access Where Systems Don’t

“I want to make myself available to people who don’t always have access to someone like me.”

Waverly shares how Wiseheart is designed to serve women, BIPOC, LGBTQ+, rural, and underestimated founders who often face systemic barriers.

>>LGBTQ+ Advocacy Through Data and Action

“You can ask: do you choose to publicly identify as an LGBTQ+ founder?”

She calls out the data gap and cultural risks still facing LGBTQ+ entrepreneurs—and how her work with StartOut aims to help change that.

>>Advising Older Entrepreneurs With Realism

“You may have to go back to the work that got you there.”

She offers grounded advice to Gen X and Baby Boomer entrepreneurs who face ageism and cost-cutting—and encourages them to translate wisdom into flexible, consulting-based careers.

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#336 Waverly Deutsch: Coaching the Logical, Leading with Love May 02, 2025

In Part 2, Waverly Deutsch opens up about her decades at Chicago Booth, where she helped founders refine not just their business models but their ability to lead. She discusses how emotional connection strengthens logic, why confident delivery isn’t enough, and how AI is changing but not replacing human insight.

For Gen Xers mentoring across generations or rethinking their own leadership, this episode is a reminder: great guidance begins with deep listening.

>>Coaching Across the Confidence Spectrum

“Some people came in over-confident. Some barely made eye contact.”

She explains how coaching required tailoring—not templating—entrepreneurs’ thinking.

>>Why Love Belongs in Leadership

“If you can’t connect with your idea, why should anyone else?”

Waverly talks about the human element most founders overlook when presenting.

>>Building Trust Across Generations

“EMBAs bring wisdom. Undergrads bring fire.”

She shares the challenge—and joy—of coaching both seasoned execs and young dreamers.

>>Relearning Her Own Leadership

“Coaching taught me how much I still had to unlearn.”

She reflects on what working with thousands of students revealed about her own blind spots.

>>AI Is Here—Now What?

“AI can write your pitch. But can it build your conviction?”

She discusses how tech is changing communication—and why human trust still drives every great pitch.

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#335 Waverly Deutsch: Computer, Broadway, and the Beautiful Mess of Career Design May 02, 2025

We meet Waverly Deutsch not as a Chicago Booth professor or coach for entrepreneurs, but as a real human navigating career decisions in a world that often asks us to pick between passion and practicality.

From falling in love with theater to entering computer science as one of only three women in a class of 30, Waverly’s story is one of blending head and heart across every career twist. She shares the real story behind leaving academia for Forrester Research, breaking down in a meeting and still making her case, and learning how to navigate gut instinct and logic without losing either.

For Gen Xers raised on rules, she shows what it means to rewrite your own—with emotional truth and strategic clarity.

>>Two Majors, One Mindset

“I ended up with two majors—one in theater and one in computer science.”

Waverly explains how her early passions—performance and programming—formed a lifelong blend of emotion and logic.

>>Early Outsider, Early Awareness

“There were three or four women in a class of 30.”

She shares what it was like being one of the only women in computer science, and how that shaped her views on identity and acceptance.

>>Teaching as a Lifelong Thread

“I knew that what I wanted to do was teach. That was truly my calling.”

From undergrad to her PhD in theater history, teaching remained her throughline—even as industries changed.

>>Forrester and the First Real Pivot

“I was employee number 27.”

She tells the story of joining Forrester Research during its startup phase, helping it scale through the internet boom, and falling in love with entrepreneurship.

>>The Crying Meeting

“George, I can cry and think at the same time.”

Waverly recounts the pivotal moment when she stopped hiding her emotions at work—and started integrating her whole self into how she leads.

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#334 Dominic Carter: Future-Proofing Life After 50 May 01, 2025

Dominic Carter, CEO of the Carter Group, shares how a personal frustration with his aging parents’ care became a long-term mission: building real, user-driven aging tech in one of the world’s oldest—and most demanding—markets. From human-centric research to venture studio development, Dominic shows how Gen Xers can lead the future of aging by solving the problems we’re all going to face. This isn’t just eldercare innovation—it’s preemptive, practical system design.

For those over 50 building what comes next, this episode is a field guide to action rooted in empathy, not hype.

>>From Personal Wake-Up Call to Business Blueprint

“I wanted better options for my parents—and for myself one day.”

Dominic shares how watching his parents’ struggle with aging became the catalyst for a venture into real, human-first aging innovation.

>>Aging Tech Isn’t Just for the Elderly

“Aging begins at 50—and the opportunity starts there.”

He reframes aged tech not as a niche, but as a massive, underserved market hiding in plain sight.

>>Start with the User—or Don’t Start at All

“If you don’t listen, you’ll waste time, money, and trust.”

Dominic explains why most aging tech fails: founders fall in love with ideas, not problems—and skip the hard part: listening.

>>Culture Is More Than Geography

“The cultural gap between 55 and 75 is as wide as the one between Japan and the West.”

He unpacks why aging solutions must be co-designed with users—and adapted not just to national cultures, but age-based subcultures.

>>Building Credibility One Win at a Time

“Get the use case. Prove the value. Then scale.”

Dominic outlines his venture studio strategy—prioritizing two user-validated products (a friction-reducing linen set and a wearable tremor device) to establish proof before expansion.

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#333 Dominic Carter: Burnout at 24, Building for 2040 May 01, 2025

Dominic Carter, the CEO of the Carter Group, didn’t become an aging tech founder by chasing trends—he got there by building slowly, listening deeply, and surviving the kind of early burnout that forces reinvention.

In Part 1, he shares how moving to Japan, launching businesses, and failing hard shaped the systems-thinking approach that now powers his work on aging innovation. This isn’t a startup story—it’s a Gen X blueprint: steady, lived, built from purpose long before it had a name.

>>Leaving, Burning Out, Coming Back

“I opened a Tokyo office at 24—and broke myself in the process.”

Dominic talks about how early success nearly ruined him, and why walking away was the start of everything good that followed.

>>A Life Rebuilt Through Listening

“Research made me better—not just at business, but at understanding people.”

He shares how market research and consulting sharpened his ability to listen deeply and solve real problems over time.

>>No Pivot. Just Evolution.

“Every business I built grew from the one before it.”

Dominic explains how his work in research, media, and software wasn’t a series of pivots—it was a slow, deliberate build toward relevance.

>>Staying in Japan by Choice

“I could’ve gone home—but Japan became the place I wanted to change from.”

He reflects on the emotional pull of Japan and how the country’s demographic trajectory mirrored something deeper he was starting to feel.

>>When Profit Isn’t the Point

“I’ve never been obsessed with money. I’ve been obsessed with meaning.”

Dominic explains why mission-aligned work—not exits—has always been his driver, even if it meant a longer, less glamorous path.

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#332 Kevin Eikenberry: How Great Leaders Flex Without Losing Themselves — Part Two Apr 30, 2025

This episode offers you $79 worth of value—completely free. Read till the end for the gift.

In Part 2, Kevin introduces the core ideas behind his latest book, Flexible Leadership. He explains why leading isn’t about finding the perfect style—it’s about flexing based on the situation without abandoning your principles. We break down how intention, context, and flexors all work together, why rigid leadership labels backfire, and why the best leaders never stop adjusting how they show up.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Why Human Nature Hasn’t Changed

“The tools have changed. People haven’t.”

Start with Intention

“Flexibility doesn’t mean random. It means choosing your leadership moves on purpose.”

Context Is Everything

“If you don’t read the situation right, no style will save you.”

Flexors, Not Labels

“You’re not just a ‘visionary’ or a ‘coach.’ Labels can help, but they can also trap.”

Compliance vs. Commitment

“Sometimes you need quick compliance. Sometimes you need lasting commitment. Know what you’re asking for.”

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#331 Kevin Eikenberry: How Great Leaders Flex Without Losing Themselves — Part One Apr 30, 2025

Kevin Eikenberry didn’t start in a leadership lab—he started on a farm where animals had to be fed no matter what else was happening. In Part 1, he shares how early lessons in discipline and systems thinking carried into his leadership work decades later. From his unexpected pivot from fertilizer sales to corporate training, to founding the Kevin Eikenberry Group, Kevin talks about the mistakes, pivots, and realities that shaped his approach to helping others lead better.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Feeding Hogs, Learning Discipline

“No matter what else was happening, you had to feed the animals. Non-negotiable.”

From Agriculture to Human Systems

“I studied mechanical and biological systems. Now I work with human ones.”

An Accidental Pivot into Training

“I volunteered once at Chevron—and ended up reshaping my whole career.”

The Easy Exit, the Harder Lesson

“Leaving with projects lined up made it easier—but delayed learning how to market myself.”

Keeping the Business Alive

“You can’t just be good at the work. You have to keep finding the next work.”

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#330 Gary Bremermann: Clarity Over Comfort—Career Change on Your Own Terms Apr 29, 2025

In Part 2 of his conversation, Tokyo-based American Gary Bremermann moves beyond his own story to share the frameworks and realities that shape career reinvention today. From his Seven Steps to Career Clarity to his candid views on Japan’s ageist hiring market, Gary offers a Gen X blueprint for change: slow, thoughtful, grounded in values, and fiercely human. For anyone tired of chasing titles and ready to build a career worth living on their own terms, this episode delivers both the hard truths and the hope.

>>Coaching the Opportunity Seekers

“Mid-career professionals weren’t asking what they wanted—they were asking what was available.”

Gary explains why so many talented people get trapped following default paths—and how coaching helps them reconnect with what they actually want.

>>Your Story Is the Starting Point

“Your past holds the clues to your future—you just have to read it differently.”

He breaks down why career clarity begins with mining your real life for patterns, strengths, and missed signals.

>>Values Before Vision

“Forget the mission statement—start with your values.”

Gary shares why starting with personal values, not corporate buzzwords, is the foundation for sustainable career growth.

>>Practical Dreaming

“One dream job without limits. One dream job grounded in reality.”

He explains how a two-track dream job exercise helps people balance ambition with achievable moves.

>>Japan’s Aging Workforce and Recruiting Reality

“The labor pool is shrinking, but the hiring practices haven’t caught up.”

Gary shares firsthand insights on ageism, cultural resistance to change, and why Japan remains one of the hardest recruiting markets in the world.

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#329 Gary Bremermann: Hitchhikes, Burnouts, and Building a Career Worth Living Apr 29, 2025

Tokyo-based American Gary Bremermann didn’t stumble into career clarity—he fought for it across countries, careers, and crises. From hitchhiking North America to building and burning out of his first company, Gary’s story is a blueprint for real Gen X reinvention: practical, nonlinear, and painfully honest.

In this first of a two-part series, he shares how early travel, entrepreneurial scars, and the brutal experience of misaligned success shaped the recruiter and career coach he is today. For Gen Xers still figuring out their next chapter—or building a life while surviving their own rough drafts—this episode offers both grit and grounded hope.

>>The National Geographic Kid

“I grew up with every issue ever printed—and a mind wired to explore.”

Gary shares how childhood dreams of travel sparked a lifelong hunger for exploration, curiosity, and career experimentation.

>>Hitchhiking Lessons You Don’t Learn in Business School

“I learned how to talk to anyone, anywhere, about anything.”

Gary reflects on how crossing the U.S. and Canada on foot and rail taught him real-world communication skills he still uses as a recruiter and coach.

>>Dropping Out—Twice

“School couldn’t hold me—but neither could drifting forever.”

He talks about his struggles with traditional education, dropping out, traveling the world, and ultimately rebuilding himself on his own terms.

>>Entrepreneurial Burnout: The Hidden Cost of Chasing Money

“I was expanding globally—and being crushed by my own business.”

Gary shares how chasing financial success without personal alignment almost destroyed him—and why selling his first company saved his life.

>>Finding Freedom on Different Terms

“Money isn’t the goal. Alignment is.”

After exiting his business and hiring a life-changing coach, Gary explains how he reframed financial success as a byproduct of purpose, not the point.

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#328 Collin Plume: Ownership, Not Optics—Teaching Real Wealth to the Next Generation Apr 28, 2025

In the second half of his conversation, Collin Plume moves beyond financial products into financial legacy—sharing how Gen Xers can teach resilience, ownership, and critical thinking to the next generation. From diversifying income streams to protecting family futures with real assets, Collin reveals why wealth isn’t about a flashy portfolio—it’s about building something that lasts, even when systems shift.

For Gen Xers tired of flashy advice and ready to raise wiser, stronger humans, this episode delivers the quiet tools for lifelong financial independence.

>>Inflation, Instability, and the Fight for Financial Control

“Gold has kept up with the cost of living for over 150 years.”

Collin explains why owning tangible assets isn’t just smart investing—it’s a fight for personal freedom and future-proofing your life against system shocks.

>>Diversification Isn’t Optional Anymore

“The mistake isn’t just losing—it’s being stuck in one idea forever.”

He shares why today’s market demands diversified thinking, constant learning, and rejecting loyalty to any one asset class—including real estate.

>>Retirement Will Never Look the Same

“People aren’t retiring—they’re reworking life.”

Collin talks about the shifting realities of work, aging, and how side gigs, flexible income, and purpose-driven work are rewriting retirement for Gen X and beyond.

>>The Rise—and Risk—of Finfluencers

“Algorithms reward appeal, not expertise.”

He calls out the dangers of taking financial advice from unverified influencers, and why critical thinking is the real currency in today’s information economy.

>>Teaching Kids the Real Value of Money

“Experience and education over stuff.”

Collin shares how he’s raising his three kids to value assets over toys, experiences over things, and knowledge over hype—with gold and silver as real-world teaching tools.

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#327 Collin Plume: Golden Rules for People-First Wealth Building Apr 27, 2025

Collin Plume didn’t build Noble Gold to chase hype—he built it to restore trust in a system Gen X knows can break.

In this first of a two-part series, Collin shares how early lessons from insurance sales, real estate, and recession-era survival shaped his people-first approach to wealth building. He explains why real assets like gold and silver aren’t just investments—they’re anchors of ownership in a world increasingly built on debt and paper.

For Gen Xers who value resilience over rhetoric, and control over hype, this episode delivers the human side of financial security.

>>Learning the Hard Way

“Customer service wasn’t a department—it was survival.”

Collin reflects on early lessons selling insurance and real estate, where trust and loyalty mattered more than shiny marketing.

>>Why People Stay—and Why They Leave

“Employees don’t stay because of ping-pong tables. They stay because they’re seen.”

He shares how mentorship and genuine relationship-building shaped his leadership style at Noble Gold.

>>Selling Without the Sleaze

“I don’t care what you’re selling—if you don’t care about people, you lose.”

Collin talks about why prioritizing people over products isn’t soft—it’s the only strategy that survives downturns.

>>Precious Metals: The Ownership Play

“When everything else feels intangible, gold and silver are still yours.”

He explains why real assets like precious metals offer Gen Xers a hedge—not just against inflation, but against an unstable system.

>>Family, Fear, and Financial Freedom

“You’re not just buying an asset—you’re buying options.”

Collin connects gold ownership to a deeper human need: protecting family, future, and dignity through real, controllable wealth.

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#326 Nina Sossamon-Pogue: Build a Life You’re Proud Of—Not Just a Career You Survive Apr 27, 2025

In Part 2 of her conversation, Nina Sossamon-Pogue moves from storytelling to strategy—offering real-world tools for navigating change, resilience, and reinvention. From building a reverse resume to mapping your own success timeline, she shares frameworks that help Gen Xers (and anyone feeling stuck) turn lived experience into a launchpad.

Instead of chasing corporate validation or viral moments, Nina reminds us that real success is slow-built, self-defined, and deeply human. For those designing their next chapter, this episode offers not just hope—but a real blueprint for building forward.

>>Your Reverse Resume: What You’ve Survived Matters

“It’s not just what you’ve achieved—it’s what you’ve overcome.”

Nina introduces the concept of the reverse resume, helping people recognize the hidden strengths built through life’s hardest chapters.

>>You Are Not Your LinkedIn Headline

“We are so much more than our last job title.”

She challenges the conventional resume model, urging listeners to view their lives as full stories—not highlight reels.

>>Resilience = Adaptation, Not Just Persistence

“Grit keeps you going. Resilience changes you.”

Nina explains why true resilience requires positive adaptation, not just stubborn endurance.

>>The Successful Timeline: Redefining What Really Counts

“A career milestone isn’t the same as a life well-lived.”

She shares how mapping your life as a timeline of both triumphs and setbacks can reframe your sense of success.

>>The Lego Mindset

“We each have a unique set of building blocks. The masterpiece is yours to create.”

Using a brilliant Lego analogy, Nina shows how your skills, experiences, and choices can assemble into something no one else can replicate.

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#325 Nina Sossamon-Pogue: Reinventing Before Reinvention Was a Buzzword Apr 27, 2025

Nina Sossamon-Pogue didn’t build a personal brand around change—she built a life out of it.

In this first of a two-part series, she shares how elite gymnastics hardwired her resilience, how journalism sharpened her communication instincts, and how a strategic leap into tech proved that reinvention is less about following trends—and more about knowing who you are at the core.

For Gen Xers who’ve quietly navigated identity loss, layoffs, industry shifts, and market crashes, Nina’s story is a masterclass in evolving without losing yourself.

>>From Falling Down to Rising Up

“Gymnastics taught me resilience before I even knew the word.”

Nina explains how falling and failing hundreds of times a week built the muscle memory for lifelong adaptability.

>>Losing an Identity, Finding a New One

“I had to figure out who I was without gymnastics.”

She shares the emotional collapse and slow rebuilding that came after losing her first major identity—and how it shaped every future chapter.

>>From Laundromats to Live TV

“One walk through a TV station—and I knew this was it.”

Nina recounts the random campus job that led her from washing football uniforms to anchoring live television for 17 years.

>>Laid Off at the Top

“Voted favorite news anchor—and still shown the door.”

She talks about navigating a devastating layoff that blindsided her mid-career—and the recalibration it forced.

>>Jumping to Tech Before Tech Was Cool

“I didn’t know what SaaS was—but I knew where the world was going.”

Nina shares how she mapped her next career move by combining self-awareness, external advice, and market trends—long before career pivots were branded movements.
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#324 Erica Sosna: Build the Career You Want—Before Someone Else Designs It for You Apr 27, 2025

In Part 2 of her conversation, Erica Sosna bridges personal resilience and professional wisdom—sharing how The Career Equation helps both individuals and organizations build careers that actually fit. Instead of offering empty advice, Erica gives a practical, human-centered model that empowers people to align their skills, passions, impact, and environment into a sustainable career path.

For Gen Xers tired of ad-hoc career advice and vague empowerment slogans, this episode offers a grounded, actionable framework to take back control—whether you’re rebuilding, pivoting, or designing your next decade.

>>Turning Recovery Into Renewal

“I used the same frameworks I teach—because they work when life gets real.”

Erica reflects on how personal recovery deepened her belief that career design must be rooted in human needs, not corporate scripts.

>>The Power of Acceptance

“Accept it as if you chose it.”

She shares the life philosophy that fueled her healing—and how it applies to navigating career setbacks, redundancies, and reinventions.

>>Start With the End in Mind

“What do you want to experience—not just achieve?”

Erica explains how vivid future visioning, tied to emotion not status, creates a powerful magnet for sustainable action and career progress.

>>The Career Equation, Demystified

“Skills + Passion + Impact ÷ Environment = Career Sweet Spot.”

She walks through the four critical elements employers and individuals need to align for lasting engagement, growth, and loyalty.

>>Career Conversations That Actually Work

“You wouldn’t run 10 accounting systems. Why have 10 ways to talk about careers?”

Erica shares why companies like Amazon and Nomura are adopting The Career Equation to bring structure, simplicity, and human connection back into career development.

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#323 Erica Sosna: Walking Again, Working Again—Redesigning Life on New Terms Apr 26, 2025

Erica Sosna was already a respected career strategist, author of The Career Equation, and founder of a successful consultancy. But when a near-fatal accident left her paralyzed in 2022, everything changed.

In this first of a two-part series, Erica shares how she rebuilt her life—and her career—on new terms. From learning to walk again to rethinking the purpose of work itself, she offers a blueprint for reinvention that doesn’t rely on hype or hashtags.

For Gen Xers who know real change isn’t a pivot—it’s a practice—this episode delivers both grit and guidance.

>>The Moment Everything Changed

“One minute I was driving. The next, I was under a car, paralyzed from the waist down.”

Erica recounts the life-altering accident that fractured 15 bones—and forced her into a physical and emotional rebuild.

>>The Career Equation: Born from Personal Experiment

“I had to use my own frameworks to get unstuck.”

She shares how the same career model she teaches—the Career Equation—became her personal blueprint for choosing how to work, live, and heal after trauma.

>>Reinvention Isn’t Always Glamorous

“Returning to work was like returning to solid ground.”

Erica explains why work—done right—became a pillar of stability, not just a paycheck, during the chaos of recovery.

>>Three Days, Full Impact

“I rebuilt my business on a three-day workweek.”

Balancing parenting, rehabilitation, and entrepreneurship, Erica redesigned her career around what mattered most—without apology.

>>Podcasting as Healing, Not Hustle

“The podcast wasn’t a brand move. It was a way to reconnect with my purpose.”

Launching her show was less about expansion—and more about returning to her original mission: helping others design lives worth living.

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#322 Adaira Landry MD: From Mentorship to Micro Skills—Tools for Thriving at Work — Part Two Apr 25, 2025

In Part 2, Adaira shares how she and Resa shaped Micro Skills into a fast-impact, high-utility guide for early career professionals—and why it intentionally skips fluff in favor of action. She opens up about saying yes too often, burning out from “non-potable work,” and how she finally embraced what she calls JOMO—the joy of missing out. We also hear how they trimmed the book’s original title (“Chisel”) and why ambition without discernment leads to a flat career, not a rising one.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:

How the Title Came to Be

“We almost called the book Chisel—but MicroSkills came from a medical lecture I never forgot.”

The Real Goal

“We wanted people to finish the book Friday and be better at work Monday. No degrees, no fluff.”

The Myth of Saying Yes

“I believed the mantra: say yes to everything. I ended up burned out, doing too much that didn’t scale.”

From FOMO to JOMO

“The joy of missing out means you choose what matters. You don’t chase everything.”

Horizontal vs. Vertical Growth

“I wasn’t climbing—I was just adding. A real career needs strategy, not just more.”

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#321 Adaira Landry MD: From Mentorship to Micro Skills—Tools for Thriving at Work — Part One Apr 25, 2025

Dr. Adaira Landry grew up in an under-resourced city, entered Berkeley at 16, and faced early career confusion without access to mentors or professional networks.

In Part 1, she shares the formative life moments that led her into emergency medicine—from stepping in to help save a man’s life on campus to surviving a painful burn injury alone. She also reflects on how mentorship found her late, how her master’s in education shaped her communication style, and why she chose to build a practical, inclusive language around career growth in MicroSkills.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The First Time It Got Real

“He collapsed outside my classroom. I had no medical training, but I stepped in—and that changed everything.”

Burned and Alone

“I lay on the floor in pain for hours. No phone. No help. That moment never left me.”

Why Mentorship Felt Foreign

“My parents never used the word mentor. It wasn’t part of our world. I had to figure it out late.”

Building Her Own Playbook

“I didn’t know how to navigate the system. Once I learned, I wanted to help others do it faster.”

Education by Design

“I didn’t want to be the kind of teacher who talks to themselves at the front of the room.”

How Micro Skills Got Its Name

“We wanted to go deep on the small things—those overlooked moments that make the biggest difference.”

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#320 Resa Lewiss MD: Micro Skills for Moments That Actually Matter – Part Two Apr 24, 2025

In Part 2, Resa explains why she and Adaira started their book MicroSkills with the most overlooked chapter: self-care. From emotional and civic health to better rest and boundaries, she unpacks how showing up well starts before you speak. She also shares practical tools for navigating hard moments—like having a failure buddy—and reveals why thoughtful email etiquette isn’t just about manners, but about professional respect.
This episode is about what sustains you—before, during, and after the work. Micro skills begin with you.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Why Micro Skills Start with Self

“We opened the book with self-care—because everything else depends on it.”

Physical, civic, emotional, and financial health are non-negotiables.

Support Isn’t Optional

“Have a failure buddy. Or a personal board of directors. Someone you can call when things go wrong.”

What Real Rest Looks Like

“Rest isn’t just sleep. It’s knowing what recharges you. And choosing to protect it.”

Respect Through Email

“BCC isn’t a trick—it’s about being thoughtful.”

Communication is a reflection of how much you value someone’s time and dignity.

Small Language, Big Impact

“Even experienced professionals said, ‘I didn’t think I’d learn anything from a book on communication—but I did.’”

Thoughtful communication isn’t about polish. It’s about presence.

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#319 Resa Lewiss MD: Micro Skills for Moments That Actually Matter – Part One Apr 24, 2025

In Part 1, Dr. Resa Lewiss shares how growing up in Rhode Island, challenging gendered assumptions at home, and studying the liberal arts all shaped her path to medicine. She opens up about the moment emergency medicine clicked for her, and how her love for procedures and working with her hands helped her find her place in a specialty that sees everything, all at once.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Why She Chose Medicine

“It was always in me. Nobody in my family was a doctor, but medicine was the path.”

Breaking Gender Roles Early

“When my dad asked the girls to clear the table, I said, ‘Why not the boys?’ I wanted to take out the garbage.”

When Emergency Medicine Clicked

“I did a rotation and thought—where have I been? This is what I was looking for.”

Studying Outside the Sciences

“Literature, religion, sociology—those made me a better doctor. They helped me understand my patients.”

Teaching Ultrasound Globally

“I practiced and prepared so I could show up and teach people in different parts of the world—nurses, midwives, physicians.”

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#318 Edward & Tricia: Collaborate to Compete—The Human Advantage Apr 24, 2025

In the second half of their conversation, Edward J. van Luinen, Ed.D. and Tricia Cerrone reveal the system behind their decade-long collaboration—and the framework that became their book, Collaborate to Compete.

But this isn’t just theory. It’s a Gen X playbook for how to lead, design, and scale collaboration that actually sticks. Grounded in five core behaviors—generosity, resourcefulness, co-creation, action, and gratitude—and powered by a noble purpose, their method flips the script on outdated workplace thinking.

For Gen Xers who’ve quietly led with trust and integrity, this episode validates everything you’ve practiced—and gives you the language to teach it forward.

>>Start With Self, Scale With Systems

“Collaboration isn’t a team sport—it’s an individual practice.”

They explain why collaboration isn’t about tech or tools, but behaviors—and why it must be designed into people first, not platforms.

>>Five Behaviors, One Noble Purpose

“Generosity. Resourcefulness. Co-creation. Action. Gratitude.”

Edward and Tricia walk through the five behavioral anchors of collaboration—and why the ‘how’ must come before the ‘what.’

>>Why the Old Workplace Models Are Failing

“We’re still running on 1900s bonus structures—and wondering why collaboration breaks down.”

They unpack how outdated incentive systems kill trust and team performance—and how leaders can redesign for shared wins.

>>The Disney Story That Brought It Home

“I watched a father put his arm around his son—and almost cried.”

Tricia shares the moment that reminded her why collaboration must be human-centered—because when it’s done right, it doesn’t just produce results. It heals.

>>From High Concept to DIY

“Take the five behaviors and run a self-check. Which ones are you already living?”

They offer tangible steps for leaders, founders, and managers to assess and apply collaborative behaviors today—without waiting for a reorg.

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#317 Edward & Tricia: The Gen X Way to Build Trust That Lasts Apr 23, 2025

Edward J. van Luinen, Ed.D. and Tricia Cerrone didn’t build a personal brand around collaboration—they lived one.

In this first of a two-part series, they reflect on the working relationship that began at Disney and slowly evolved into a business, a book, and a model for how Gen X builds enduring trust.

Forget quick team-building hacks and shallow LinkedIn takes—this is collaboration done the Gen X way: built slowly, refined over time, and grounded in shared values.

If you’re tired of performative partnerships and want to know what staying power really looks like, this is your episode.

>>The Relationship That Didn’t Expire

“Most work relationships fade. This one evolved.”

Edward and Tricia share how a three-year collaboration at Disney grew into a decade of trust, business, and a co-authored book on leadership.

>>No Hierarchy, No Ego

“We weren’t assigned roles—we built the rules together.”

They reflect on leading a global initiative without clear power dynamics, and how mutual respect became the real structure.

>>The First Coffee Was the Turning Point

“That coffee wasn’t about a project—it was about character.”

Tricia recalls how her initial skepticism melted when Edward showed up with presence, empathy, and zero pretense.

>>Why It Worked: Five Behaviors, One Blueprint

“We didn’t write the book first—we lived it.”

They walk through five consistent behaviors—generosity, gratitude, grace, curiosity, and accountability—that made their team the one others wanted to be on.

>>Tech Can’t Fake Trust

“You can’t app your way into a good relationship.”

Edward and Tricia challenge today’s obsession with productivity tools, arguing that collaboration starts with who you are—not what you use.

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#316 John Gates: Stop Leaving Money on the Table Apr 23, 2025

John Gates has been on the inside of more salary negotiations than most of us will see in a lifetime—over 75,000 offers across industries and levels. From a scrappy upbringing in Oregon to global recruiting roles at Capital One and beyond, John learned how the game works. And now, he’s helping jobseekers stop lowballing themselves and start playing smarter.

In this episode, he debunks the biggest salary myths, shares the scripts that work, and explains why salary negotiation starts long before the offer lands. For Gen Xers navigating job transitions or prepping for the next big move, this episode is both a wake-up call and a negotiation playbook.

>>From Pizza Delivery to Pay Negotiation Powerhouse

“I worked 30 hours a week at Domino’s and crammed two degrees into two and a half years.”

John shares how a scrappy start built the systems thinking and urgency that now powers his work with jobseekers and executives alike.

>>Recruiter, Interrupted

“I was laid off before my first job even started.”

He reflects on the early career shock that forced him into recruiting by accident—and the surprising skills he found along the way.

>>The Capital One Lightbulb Moment

“I got the offer, the bonus, the relocation bump—and still felt I’d left money on the table.”

That one regret launched his obsession: learning how recruiters really build offers and how much most candidates are missing out on.

>>The Salary Lies That Get Recycled on LinkedIn

“Know your worth and demand it? That’s how you get ghosted.”

John unpacks the worst advice online and explains why collaboration—not confrontation—is the smarter way to negotiate.

>>When to Talk Money (and What to Say)

“Most people wait until the offer. By then, it’s too late for the Mercedes—you’re getting the Beetle.”

He reveals the step-by-step strategy that builds leverage from the first click, not the final call.

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#315 Jason Bloomfield: From Survival Mode to Systems Change Apr 22, 2025

Jason Bloomfield didn’t learn change in an MBA program—he learned it through real life.

As a teenager, he became the de facto head of household. Now, as Global Head of People Change and Experience Design at Ericsson, he leads transformation across 180 countries. In this episode, Jason shares how active listening, design thinking, and human-first systems have helped him move organizations from dysfunction to alignment. From M&A integrations to HR tech failures, from -83 NPS scores to user-designed wins, his work proves one thing: change only sticks when it’s built with—not for—the people it’s meant to serve.

For Gen Xers who’ve lived through chaos and are now leading through it, this episode is a blueprint in action.

>>From Family Collapse to First Acquisition

“I was the only one with income. So I had to figure it out.”

Jason opens up about his early years, navigating a broken home while building stability from scratch—and how that experience shaped his instincts in business.

>>Career by Constraint

“They asked if I’d move to 1 Madison Avenue. I said yes—and just kept saying yes.”

From wiring cables to managing a global acquisition across 13 countries, Jason shares how constraints—and curiosity—turned into growth and global opportunity.

>>Change Starts with Listening

“Active listening sends a signal: you care.”

Jason breaks down why empathy is not a soft skill—it’s the hardest one. Especially when leading transformation across 100,000 employees and 180 countries.

>>Turning a -83 NPS into a Shared Win

“The tool was hated. But people started feeling heard.”

He recounts how a globally despised HR tool became usable—through co-creation, honesty, and building feedback loops that actually changed things.

>>From Paper to Trust

“They didn’t hate digital. They didn’t trust institutions.”

Jason explains how assumptions kill adoption—and how design thinking and diverse input helped his teams shift deeply entrenched behaviors.

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#314 Erika Ayers-Baden: Grit, Goals, and the Generational Advantage Apr 22, 2025

In the second half of her conversation, Erika Ayers Badan—CEO of Food52, former CEO of Barstool Sports, board leader, media powerhouse, and author of _No One Cares About Your Career_—lets us behind the curtain.

From negotiating screen time as a kid to rewriting the rules as a high-profile executive, she reflects on how grit, autonomy, and unfiltered curiosity shaped everything—from her parenting to her management style. She shares why she no longer chases titles, what failure really teaches us, and why today’s “toxic culture” talk often needs more clarity than cancellation.

For Gen Xers raising kids, leading teams, or just trying to keep their values intact in a noisy world, this episode is the deep breath you didn’t know you needed.

>>The Original Streaming Negotiation

“My brother and I shared one hour of TV a week. That’s how I learned to negotiate.”

Erika reflects on the creative, disciplined upbringing that shaped her independence—and how it made her a better leader, dealmaker, and parent.

>>Titles Are Overrated. Impact Isn’t.

“I cared about titles in my 20s. Now I care about purview.”

She explains why chasing titles is a trap—and why real career growth is measured in responsibility, resilience, and reach.

>>Fail Always Mode

“If you feel like you’re failing, it means you care—and you’re trying something new.”

Erika breaks down why failure isn’t just tolerable—it’s necessary. And why she rewards effort over perfection every time.

>>Culture > Buzzwords

“I’m allergic to gossip, inertia, and pontificating.”

From toxic culture to real collaboration, Erika shares her no-BS filter for building teams that do the work and actually like doing it.

>>Gen Alpha, Gen X, and the Parenting Gap

“I worry their advantages are actually disadvantages.”

She gets honest about parenting kids in a hyper-stimulated world—and why she’s racing the clock to instill resilience before the clay hardens.

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#313 Erika Ayers-Baden: No One Cares About Your Career—So Build One That Works for You Apr 21, 2025

Erika Ayers Badan isn’t here to polish the truth—she’s here to say it louder.

In this first of a two-part series, the current CEO of Food52 and former CEO of Barstool Sports breaks down the raw realities behind her debut book, No One Cares About Your Career. From writing on commuter trains to fielding hundreds of workplace questions a week, Erika shares why her advice hits different—because it’s honest, hard-earned, and hyper-relevant for a Gen X audience still rewriting the rulebook.

This isn’t a pep talk. It’s a reset.

>>The Title That Says It All

“It’s not just a title—it’s the truth.”

Erika reveals how No One Cares About Your Career went from a casual comment to the book’s heartbeat—and why it resonates across industries, generations, and inboxes.

>>When Creativity Gets Crushed

“I went from running wild to daily reforecasts and regulatory meetings.”

She opens up about the moment corporate structure smothered her spark—and how writing a book on the train became a lifeline back to creative energy.

>>The Mid-Chapter Career Book

“This isn’t for the lost or the legends. It’s for the people in the messy middle.”

Erika explains who the book is for—and why it’s not another glossy manifesto or three-step self-help trick.

>>The Five Things That Actually Matter at Work

“Who you are. What you offer. How you show up. What you do with your time. And how much you care.”

Forget the buzzwords. Erika distills 25 years of media, tech, and executive leadership into five brutally simple career rules.

>>Mentoring at Scale

“I get 200 questions a week—and I try to answer every one.”

She shares how social media became her advice desk, what Gen Z is most worried about, and why transparency—not perfection—is the new leadership currency.

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#312 Mark Bayer: From Research to Relevance—Helping PhDs Get Heard (and Hired) — Part Two Apr 20, 2025

Mark Bayer spent 20 years in the U.S. Congress shaping major policies and managing high-stakes communication for senior lawmakers.

In Part Two, Mark gets practical—breaking down the actual tools and mindset shifts PhDs need to thrive in the private sector. From his 11 Keys to Translating Complexity (complexitymadeclear.com) to why metaphors matter more than models, he shows how scientists can go from overlooked to unforgettable. Plus, what AI can’t do—and why your human voice still matters more than ever.

This one’s for anyone who’s been told their skills are “too academic.” Turns out, they’re your superpower—if you know how to use them.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The “11 Keys” Framework

“Shakespeare said, brevity is the soul of wit. But it’s also the start of strategy.”

Wake Words and Brain Wiring

“Our brains tune into the unexpected. Use that to your advantage.”

Crossing Cultures & Languages

“Being bilingual helps you distill ideas—and respect your audience’s world.”

The Real Meaning of Connection

“You have to connect before you communicate. That’s not soft—it’s strategy.”

AI Can’t Replicate Your Voice

“AI pulls from old ideas. Your job is to bring something new, human, and surprising.”

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#311 Mark Bayer: From Research to Relevance—Helping PhDs Get Heard (and Hired) — Part One Apr 20, 2025

Mark Bayer spent 20 years in the U.S. Congress shaping major policies and managing high-stakes communication for senior lawmakers.

In Part One, he reflects on what those years taught him about messaging, persuasion, and why most PhDs—despite their brilliance—struggle to translate their value. From Capitol Hill to Harvard Medical School, Mark now helps scientists and researchers communicate like insiders.

This episode is a masterclass in what PhDs get wrong—and what they already have right.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The First “R&D” Mix-up

“I thought they were talking about research and development. But it was Republicans and Democrats.”

The 8% Problem

“Only 8% of PhDs stay in academia. But nearly all are trained as if that’s the only path.”

Misunderstood Advantage

“PhDs are analytical, resilient, focused—yet many don’t see those as selling points.”

Beauty vs. Relevance

“Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Importance is in the eye of the stakeholders.”

Your Message Has 10 Seconds

“Lead with the punchline. Or your audience will drift.”

Why Communication ≠ Dumping Data

“Scientists want to show everything they know. But that’s not the job. The job is to answer the question.”

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#310 Jevon Wooden: From Cell Block to C-Suite — Part Two Apr 20, 2025

From facing seven years in prison at 17 to leading soldiers in Afghanistan, Jevon Wooden’s story is more than a redemption arc—it’s about owning your power the moment you realize you’ve still got one.

In Part 1, Jevon, the author of "Functional to Phenomenal" and "Own Your Kingdom", opens up about growing up in one of America’s poorest cities, learning to survive, and ultimately discovering his worth had nothing to do with money.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Veterans Day, Forever Changed

“I watched six people die. A year later, my daughter was born on the same day.”

When trauma and hope collide.

From Pain to Purpose

“That red flash in my nightmares? It stopped the day I forgave my father.”

The invisible work behind healing.

Coaching the “A-hole Executive”

“He said, ‘I care—I just don’t know how to show it.’”

Helping leaders reconnect with their team, and themselves.

Empathy ≠ Weakness

“It’s not about being soft—it’s about being smart.”

Why emotional intelligence is the hardest and most essential leadership skill.

Watch Your Patterns

“Triggers tell the truth. Learn what sets you off—before it costs your team.”

The self-awareness most leaders skip.

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#309 Jevon Wooden: From Cell Block to C-Suite — Part One Apr 19, 2025

From facing seven years in prison at 17 to leading soldiers in Afghanistan, Jevon Wooden’s story is more than a redemption arc—it’s about owning your power the moment you realize you’ve still got one.

In Part 1, Jevon, the author of "Functional to Phenomenal" and "Own Your Kingdom", opens up about growing up in one of America’s poorest cities, learning to survive, and ultimately discovering his worth had nothing to do with money.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Wrong Crowd, the Right Wake-Up Call

“I wasn’t guilty that night, but I was heading there fast.”

How one arrest changed everything.

A Mother’s Sacrifice

“She offered to put up her house to get me a lawyer.”

The first lesson in love, empathy, and accountability.

From Janitor to Army Leader

“I worked two full-time jobs before choosing the military.”

Why service gave him more than stability—it gave him purpose.

Not Just Discipline, But Discovery

“In the Army, I learned I was a leader—and I didn’t need rank to prove it.”

The Value Shift

“I realized value isn’t what you wear—it’s what you give.”

How he redefined self-worth from the ground up.

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#308 Chris Hare: Tools to Rewrite Your Story—and Live It Better Apr 19, 2025

In Part 3 of this series, narrative strategist Chris Hare leaves us with a gift: the tools to take control of our own stories.

Whether it’s envisioning your future in a quiet theater, asking loved ones for feedback through a meaningful 360, or identifying the patterns that shaped your past, Chris’s methods are built for reflection and action. This isn’t productivity advice or LinkedIn bait—it’s practical wisdom for designing a story you can live with.

For Gen Xers rethinking legacy, reinvention, and what success actually looks like, this episode is a toolkit with a soul.

>>The Movie Theater Exercise

“What would your life movie look like if it played tomorrow in an empty theater?”

Chris walks us through a powerful future-visioning tool: a quiet, internal exercise that helps you feel the trajectory of your life—and decide if it’s headed where you want.

>>The Real 360

“Ask people who love you: what’s my superpower?”

Chris explains how to gather stories and values from people who know you best—not for a performance review, but for a pattern breakthrough.

>>How One Story Sparked a LinkedIn Flood

“A fighter pilot shared his lowest moment. Hundreds told him who he really was.”

Chris shares how a client’s vulnerable storytelling post turned into a cascade of unseen feedback—proving that the stories we live often matter more than we realize.

>>Inputs, Not Absolutes

“Be careful—feedback reflects the version of you people saw, not who you’re becoming.”

Chris and Vince dig into the risks of misaligned input, and why choosing a diverse, thoughtful, and intentional group for feedback is everything.

>>Why Machines Can’t Replace Meaning

“If AI read our transcript, it’d miss the one moment that mattered.”

Chris explains why storytelling—and coaching—can’t be fully automated. Because the spark is often in the tone, the pause, the shift. And only humans catch that.

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#307 Chris Hare: Rewrite the Story Before It Wrecks You Apr 18, 2025

In Part 2 of his three-part series, narrative strategist Chris Hare shares the stories he used to survive.

From a near-suicidal season while working at Amazon to a healing moment years later in a record store, this episode unpacks how internal stories—if left unchecked—can become prisons. But when named, challenged, and re-authored, they can also become paths to freedom.

For Gen Xers who’ve spent decades carrying stories they didn’t choose, this is a masterclass in taking your story back—and choosing what to build next.

>>When the Narrative Turns Against You

“I repeated ‘I’m stuck’ like a mantra—for hours, every week.”

Chris reveals how one toxic narrative nearly ended his life, and how a shift in story—triggered by a tragic moment—gave him just enough room to survive.

>>From Mental Health Crisis to Narrative Recovery

“I believed I was going to die. That became my story.”

He shares his journey through depression, chronic pain, and burnout—and the slow, uncomfortable work of rewriting that internal tape.

>>The Most Powerful Story He Ever Felt

“It started with my boss’s tattoo and ended with Eddie Vedder hugging me in a record store.”

Chris tells the full-circle story of how a Pearl Jam song became the turning point in his healing—and why storytelling doesn’t just change businesses, it changes people.

>>Storytelling Is a Risk—and a Return

“Most of us tell curated stories. The raw ones? That’s where the power is.”

He makes a case for telling the stories that aren’t polished. Because those are the stories that truly shift our futures—and invite others to shift with us.

>>From Blame to Responsibility

“I had to stop blaming everyone else for my unhappiness.”

Chris opens up about how his marriage nearly ended, and how rewriting his personal narrative—through new inputs and radical honesty—brought him back.

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#306 Chris Hare: Strategy Starts with the Story You Believe Apr 18, 2025

In Part 1 of this three-part series, Chris Hare shares how a single founder story sparked a strategy pivot inside Amazon—and why storytelling isn’t fluff, it’s infrastructure.

As a behind-the-scenes strategist for some of tech’s biggest companies, Chris has spent decades shaping narratives that align people, purpose, and performance. But his real power lies in his Gen X sensibility: low drama, high pattern recognition, and deep alignment between what’s said and what’s done. This episode explores how narrative becomes strategy—and why the most powerful shifts often start quietly, from the edges.

>>From Ad World to Strategic Narrative

“I started in marketing, but I got tired of talking at people.”

Chris shares how his path from advertising to Amazon and Microsoft led him to discover a deeper kind of storytelling—one that doesn’t sell, but aligns and activates.

>>Stories Fuel the Narrative—But Don’t Confuse the Two

“Stories are time-bound. Narratives are ongoing.”

He breaks down the difference between stories and narratives using a flywheel model—and why most companies misuse both.

>>When a Story Shifts a Billion-Dollar Business

“One conversation in Brooklyn rewrote the future of Amazon Marketplace.”

Chris recounts how a single founder story changed the internal narrative at Amazon, sparking a strategic shift toward supporting brand owners—not just resellers.

>>Narrative Isn’t a Department—It’s the Operating System

“Everyone thinks they own the narrative. The CMO. The CEO. The team.”

He unpacks why narrative must be rooted in strategy, and why trying to split it between brand, marketing, and product only creates confusion.

>>How Change Starts with Listening

“Storytelling isn’t a hero’s journey framework. It’s a pattern recognition discipline.”

Chris explains how real narrative work starts with deep listening and curiosity—and how companies can design strategy around human insight, not hype.

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#305 Sara Lobkovich: Strategy Is Not a Suit—It’s a Skill Apr 17, 2025

In Part 2 of her conversation, Sara Lobkovich doesn’t just tell us what strategy is—she shows us who it’s for.

Her book, You Are a Strategist, is more than a guide to OKRs or goal-setting. It’s a toolkit for people who’ve always felt misaligned, misunderstood, or mislabeled in traditional business environments. Drawing from her own experience as a trauma survivor, neurodivergent thinker, and late-diagnosed ADHD strategist, Sara offers business frameworks that finally include the rest of us.

For Gen Xers who never fit the mold but always saw the system clearly, this episode is both validation and a user manual.

>>From Law School to Strategy Misfit

“I never got the interview. I didn’t have the right name on my résumé.”

Sara reflects on being locked out of big-name strategy firms—and how that exclusion pushed her to build her own frameworks, grounded in human insight, not prestige.

>>Strategy as Shared Language

“The simplest tech in business? Words that mean the same thing to everyone.”

Sara breaks down how misalignment over simple terms like ‘strategy’ or ‘goals’ can waste human energy—and how her frameworks give teams a shared starting point.

>>The Book That Became a Love Letter

“I wrote the book I needed—and cried when I read the proof.”

She shares how You Are a Strategist evolved from a workbook on goal-setting into a deeply personal guide for people who feel unseen in traditional business culture.

>>A Toolkit for the Misunderstood

“This book is for introverts, ADHDers, trauma survivors, frustrated changemakers.”

Sara explains why her audience matters—and how her tools were designed for people often left out of business conversations but full of unrealized insight.

>>Leading Through Questions, Not Performances

“Strategy is asking the question no one else is asking—then listening.”

She closes by reframing leadership as a curiosity-driven practice, not a performance—and why the most powerful change-makers are often the ones who feel like outsiders.

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#304 Sara Lobkovich: When the System Doesn’t Fit, Rewrite the Operating Manual Apr 17, 2025

Sara Lobkovich didn’t pivot to be edgy. She adapted because the system never fit—and she refused to shrink herself to match it.

In this first of a two-part series, Sara walks us through her nonlinear arc: from teen internet entrepreneur to lawyer, from burnout strategist to behavioral goal-setting expert. Along the way, she reveals how quiet defiance, early activism, and radical self-curiosity helped her rewire how she worked and lived.

For Gen Xers tired of being told to “just fit in,” this episode hits like a guidebook wrapped in real talk.

>>Port Townsend Roots, Strategy Brain Wiring

“I was raised where being a writer or artist wasn’t a dream—it was a job.”

Sara shares how growing up in a small creative town and fighting for chocolate milk equity in third grade foreshadowed a life spent rewriting systems that didn’t make sense.

>>Corporate Doesn’t Like People Like Us

“I gave 150% and learned they only wanted 25.”

She opens up about being misread, underused, and professionally ghosted inside organizations that couldn’t make space for someone who thought faster than the hierarchy could handle.

>>Law School, Big Agencies, and That One Job That Broke Her

“I was the person on the plane with no life and a dog living with my parents.”

Sara traces her journey through law, tech, brand strategy, and burnout—highlighting how her performance often outpaced her internal compass.

>>Strategy as a Rebellion, Not a Resume

“Strategy isn’t being the smartest in the room—it’s asking the best questions.”

She unpacks how real strategy is built by misfits, introverts, and pattern-obsessives—not always the polished ones at the front of the pitch deck.

>>Stuck ≠ Static

“I made stuckness into a self-directed MBA.”

For Sara, curiosity is the antidote to stagnation. She reframes “being stuck” as a training ground and offers a mindset shift for anyone feeling locked in place.
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#303 Holly Bond: Fixing Recruiting Without Losing the Human Apr 16, 2025

In this second half of her story, Holly Bond comes full circle—returning to the recruiting world she once left behind, this time to rebuild it from the ground up. At Facets, she’s proving that scaling a business doesn’t require sacrificing soul. From her pay structure to her candidate experience to her team’s human-first process, Holly is quietly leading a revolution in executive search.

She also drops some of the best job-seeking advice on the show to date—especially for Gen Xers navigating reinvention in an AI-shaped job market.

>>Why She Said No for Two Years

“I wasn’t going back unless I could build it on my terms.”

Holly shares how she turned down the offer to lead a recruiting division—until the company agreed to let her rewrite the model with empathy at the core.

>>From Commission to Compassion

“I spent 90 minutes with a man in crisis. And someone called it non-revenue-generating time.”

That moment made her walk away. Now, she leads a team that’s paid to care—not just to close.

>>Human-First Headhunting

“We’re not built for speed. We’re built for connection.”

Facets was founded to serve both candidates and clients—not just fill roles. The process is slow by design, and that’s the point.

>>Can’t-Miss Advice for Job Seekers

“Keep your resume on your desktop—like a living will.”

From networking mindset to real-world resume tips, Holly offers grounded, no-BS advice for job seekers of all ages, especially those in their 40s, 50s, and 60s.

>>What AI Can’t Replace

“We use AI to be more efficient—so we can be more human.”

Holly explains exactly where AI fits into her recruiting process—and where it never will. Emotional nuance, creativity, and human connection? Still 100% analog.

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#302 Holly Bond: From Mom on a Mission to Franchise Founder Apr 16, 2025

Holly Bond didn’t inherit a business or a playbook—she built her own, from the basement up.

In this first of a two-part conversation, she shares how a late return to university, a family health wake-up call, and pure Gen X tenacity drove her to create a kids’ fitness franchise with national impact. Holly’s story is part entrepreneurship, part emotional reckoning, and full of hard-earned wisdom for anyone designing change from the inside out. If you’ve ever thought it was too late, too messy, or too uncertain—this episode proves otherwise.

>>Seventeen Years and One Framed Diploma

“My kids framed my degree—with notes saying ‘You’re the bomb.’”

Holly recounts how she returned to college as a mom of two, taking one course at a time over nearly two decades—proving that starting late doesn’t mean finishing small.

>>Sales from Scratch

“I went from mall dumpsters to headhunter interviews.”

Her first outside sales job was in waste management. The job was unglamorous—but it proved she could sell. And it led her, unexpectedly, to the world of recruiting.

>>The Moment That Changed Everything

“He said our son was overweight. I didn’t believe it—until I saw it.”

A brutally honest conversation about her son’s health launched Holly into action. What began as a home gym turned into Bulldog Interactive Fitness, a children’s fitness franchise powered by gaming.

>>From Basement Prototypes to National News

“I said we’re franchising on TV—before we even had an application form.”

She hustled media coverage, fielded 100+ franchise inquiries in 24 hours, and built the brand on the fly. It was messy. It was bold. And it worked—until the 2009 crash tested everything.

>>The Lessons That Nearly Broke Her

“I stopped listening to the advisors who warned me. Almost lost it all.”

From overconfidence to near-collapse, Holly reflects on how she came close to losing her company—and what pulled her back just in time.

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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two Apr 15, 2025

In Part Two, Sande takes us into the quieter—but more honest—chapter that followed. He shares what happened when he stepped off the growth treadmill, redefined ambition, and began unlearning the beliefs that kept him over-performing and under-listening. From rebuilding marriage to carving out what he calls Life Peels, Sande shares what it means to grow by subtracting—not stacking.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Life After the Climb

“What would happen if I just got really quiet and listened? Not learned—listened.”

The Life Peels Method

“We’re like Michelangelo’s David. You don’t need to add anything—you just need to carve away what’s not you.”

Redefining Growth

“I’m done with strategy decks and trying to prove something. I just want clarity, ease, and to feel good in my skin.”

Marriage in the In-Between

“When our last kid left for college, we both needed space. Not because it was broken—but because we hadn’t had it before.”

How Less Became More

“When I let go of trying to control everything, the right things started happening. On their own.”

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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One Apr 15, 2025

Sande Golgart was the guy who said yes to every opportunity, outran every challenge, and never sat still—until one day, the success story stopped feeling like his.

In Part One, he opens up about going from slam dunk champ to corporate high-performer to someone questioning the very game he was winning. He talks about early ambition, the trap of nonstop action, and the moment he realized: “You climb, climb, climb… then realize the mountain isn’t even yours.”

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

From Slam Dunks to Sales Calls

“I was competing in dunk contests all over the country. I used that same mindset in business.”

The High Performer Trap

“I just kept saying yes. I never said no. I kept moving, kept growing, kept stretching.”

Action Over Inaction

“Even if you take a wrong step, at least you’re moving. Inaction is a choice too—but it gives you nothing to work with.”

The Wake-Up Line

“You climb, climb, climb… then realized the mountain isn’t even yours.”

No Off Switch

“I didn’t even know what I liked. I never stopped long enough to ask.”

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#299 Chris Quek: Building the Next Gen, Starting With His Own Apr 15, 2025

Chris Quek isn’t just building startups—he’s building a generation.

In this second half of his story, he shares how selling his inheritance became the launchpad for Thrive, a VC firm that invests in Southeast Asia’s overlooked next-gen entrepreneurs. From structuring value-aligned startups to teaching his kids the principles behind technology, Chris shows how legacy isn’t something you receive—it’s something you design.

For Gen Xers navigating intergenerational tension, personal ambition, and regional impact, this episode delivers both hard-won wisdom and a hopeful blueprint.

>>From Closure to Creation

“I didn’t inherit a business—I shut it down.”

Chris shares the emotional closure with his father, the sale of the family factory, and how he turned personal loss into a new professional beginning.

>>Southeast Asia’s Family Business Wake-Up Call

“We raised a generation of lawyers and bankers—but who’s left to run the businesses?”

He explains how Singapore’s success came at a cost: the erosion of entrepreneurial drive—and why he’s now building the bridge back.

>>Designing a VC That Feeds the Ecosystem

“Our investors are second-gen family owners. Our startups solve their problems.”

Chris outlines Thrive’s unique model: a purpose-built flywheel that connects capital, tech, and legacy businesses in Southeast Asia.

>>Capital with a Conscience

“We backed a ride-hailing company where drivers take home 40% more pay.”

From AgriMax to Tata, Chris shares examples of startups Thrive has funded that combine profitability with real, human impact.

>>Fatherhood, Values, and the Next Next Gen

“I don’t teach my kids my methods—I teach them my values.”

Chris opens up about parenting three children under 13, mentoring with intention, and why good values—not rigid playbooks—are what truly last.

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#298 Chris Quek: From Inheritance to Identity Apr 14, 2025

Chris Quek could’ve stayed in the family business and lived comfortably. Instead, he chose a life of uncomfortable clarity.

In this first of a two-part series, Chris shares how he rejected expectations, fled the legacy he was born into, and built an e-commerce business in Malaysia with nothing but grit and guidance from mentors. Now 46, he reflects on what identity really means when you’re not handed a playbook—and how each phase of reinvention brings you closer to your core. For Gen Xers rewriting their lives mid-game, this is the kind of conversation that sticks.

>>When Legacy Isn’t Your Story

“I didn’t want to be the son of Mr. Quek. I wanted to be me.”

Chris explains why he left his family’s manufacturing empire and fled to Malaysia—where he started over, with no plan, no capital, and no title.

>>Courage Is Quiet

“I lasted three days in China. Then I left. I couldn’t do it.”

He unpacks the emotional and ethical discomfort that made him walk away from his father’s factory—and the fear he had to face to forge his own path.

>>Lessons from the Streets of Malaysia

“My startup wasn’t sexy. It was survival.”

Chris shares how he built a cross-border e-commerce business using payment hacks, logistics hustle, and gut instinct—long before VC buzzwords existed.

>>Mentorship Over Money

“I didn’t inherit wealth. I inherited wisdom.”

Raised around entrepreneurs and sharp thinkers, Chris reflects on how informal mentoring—from car rides to restaurant napkins—shaped his business thinking.

>>Every Decade, Rediscover Yourself

“At every stage, I found a new part of me I didn’t know existed.”

Chris traces his 20-year journey through reinvention—from entrepreneur to advisor to VC—and why he believes identity isn’t found. It’s built, season by season.
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#297 Gagan Sandhu: Redefining Wealth, Reinventing Work Apr 14, 2025

In this second half of his conversation, Gagan Sandhu pulls back the curtain on what it really means to design financial independence. It’s not about the FIRE movement or early retirement—it’s about knowing your trade-offs and making conscious, math-informed decisions that align with your values. From career reinvention every 10 years to balancing ambition with family time, Gagan offers Gen Xers a refreshingly grounded take on money, identity, and midlife work design.

>>Financial Independence Is a Design Decision

“I didn’t quit to escape. I quit because I could—on my own terms.”

Gagan redefines financial independence not as a finish line, but a framework for how to live, work, and choose with freedom.

>>It’s Not About the Number. It’s About the Math Behind Your Life

“I built a five-year runway—not a fantasy.”

He walks through how he calculated his freedom, X + Y + Z style: long-term retirement, short-term burn, and real-life expenses like college.

>>FIRE vs Philosophy

“Desires evolve. So does your definition of freedom.”

In a head-to-head with Vince, Gagan goes deep on the psychology of wealth—and why independence without self-awareness is just another trap.

>>Ageism or Skill Gap?

“Don’t blame age. Upgrade your playbook.”

Gagan reframes mid-career uncertainty not as an HR problem, but a personal pivot point—and makes a sharp case for reinvention every 10 years.

>>Teaching the Tool, Not the Trick

“You don’t need financial content. You need clarity.”

He explains how Zillion helps busy families and immigrants manage wealth like pros—not through advice, but through intuitive, data-backed modeling.

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#296 Gagan Sandhu: Engineer Your Independence Apr 14, 2025

Gagan Sandhu didn’t chase freedom. He calculated it.

In this first of a two-part series, the Chicago Booth MBA, former tech exec, and founder of fintech startup Zillion shares how he redefined financial independence—moving beyond buzzwords and into practical action. From his immigrant roots to his pivot from mechanical engineering to Silicon Valley, Gagan shows how knowledge—not speed—builds real freedom.

Whether you’re Gen X or Gen Z, this conversation reframes wealth not as a finish line, but as a tool for designing the life you actually want.

>>From Engineering to Independence

“I didn’t change careers at 22—I did it at 30, with a kid on the way.”

Gagan shares how he shifted from mechanical engineering to tech—slowly, methodically, while balancing parenthood and late-night coding marathons.

>>Knowledge Is Currency

“Every leap I made came from learning, not luck.”

He reflects on why knowledge—not connections, not titles—has been the key success driver in his nonlinear, global career.

>>Financial Independence ≠ Retirement

“I didn’t stop working. I stopped relying on someone else to fund my time.”

Gagan breaks down the real math behind financial independence, and why it’s not about quitting your job—it’s about having options.

>>FIRE Without the Hype

“We turned it into a real-time calculator—so people can stop guessing and start acting.”

Gagan explains how his company Zillion helps users understand their path to independence through clean logic, custom inputs, and grounded assumptions.

>>Money, Math, and Meaning

“Independence isn’t a destination—it’s a design challenge.”

In a thoughtful back-and-forth with Vince, Gagan shares why financial planning must merge psychology, lifestyle design, and human behavior—not just numbers in a spreadsheet.

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#295 Jodi Silverman: Parenting, Purpose & the Dare to Begin Again — Part Two Apr 13, 2025

What do you do when the person you’ve been—mom, fixer, chauffeur, planner—is no longer needed in the same way?

In Part 2, Jodi shares the emotional (and practical) shift from parenting full-time to rediscovering your own interests. She walks us through her signature DARE Method and dishes out real talk on marriage, identity, and why your kids aren’t your best friends (even if you really, really like them).

This isn’t just an episode about empty nests. It’s about refilling your own life—on your own terms.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Parenting Pivot

“You’re always their mom—but not always their problem-solver.”

How to shift from fixer to adviser.

Best Friend? Nope. Mom Forever.

“They have friends. What they need is a parent who actually knows when to walk away.”

The Real Empty Nest Challenges

“It’s not just missing them. It’s not knowing who you are without them.”

The DARE Method

Decide. Awaken. Reimagine. Experience. A four-step strategy for rebooting midlife.

Rediscovering You

“Start with a brain dump. What did you used to like—before you were someone’s plus one?”

Day Swaps, Not Date Nights

“Plan a day around what lights them up. You’ll learn more than any heart-to-heart.”

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#294 Jodi Silverman: Parenting, Purpose & the Dare to Begin Again — Part One Apr 13, 2025

Jodi Silverman didn’t set out to lead a movement—she just wanted to figure out what came next.
In Part 1, she opens up about career shifts, midlife transitions, and how becoming an empty nester sent her on a completely different path. Spoiler: it involved leaving behind a successful print business, embracing a “dare,” and launching a community that now supports thousands of women through their own identity resets.

Whether you’re a parent or not, this is a story about transition, reinvention, and giving yourself permission to be more than one thing.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

From Sales Rep to Accidental Entrepreneur

“I didn’t know the word ‘entrepreneur’ back then. I just knew I didn’t want a boss—or a babysitter.”

The Quiet That Changed Everything

“Suddenly, I had free time… and I didn’t want to sell print anymore.”

What happens when the kids leave and purpose takes a nap.

A Guilty No, and a New Yes

“Admitting I was unfulfilled felt selfish—but it was the start of everything.”

Finding the Word That Fit

“I was already doing it. I just didn’t know it was called daring.”

How Moms Who Dare Was Born

From a Facebook group to a full-blown movement, one post at a time.

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#293 Wayland Lum: From Booth to the Battlefield of the Mind Apr 13, 2025

Wayland Lum has built a leadership career that spans tech giants, global consulting, and top business schools—but his boldest move was walking away from all of it to build something from scratch.

Now the founder of Copperbox, he coaches modern leaders through a philosophy that fuses deep psychology, personal courage, and timeless wisdom. In this episode, he shares the moment he chose purpose over prestige, the emotional realities behind true leadership, and why fear and courage are two sides of the same decision. For Gen Xers done with title-chasing and hungry for meaning, this is the episode to come back to—again and again.

>>From Booth to Bold Moves

“Would I keep relying on the building, the brand—or bet on myself?”

Wayland shares the moment he realized he had to stop playing it safe and walk the walk. The leap from corporate prestige to personal practice was years in the making—and worth it.

>>Coaching Is Not a Shortcut—It’s a Mirror

“You push people to become who they could be—not who they think they are.”

Wayland reflects on being coached early in his career, and how that shaped his fierce belief in holding leaders to their highest potential.

>>Leadership Isn’t Status—It’s a Torch

“Real leadership burns. If you’re not sacrificing, you’re not leading.”

Through Copperbox, Wayland trains modern leaders using eight core principles—drawn from nature, history, and human psychology. His goal: transformation, not just transaction.

>>Courage Only Comes After Fear

“You don’t get to feel brave without first feeling scared.”

He breaks down how the most meaningful leadership moments require discomfort—and how emotions like courage and fear, joy and grief, are always paired.

>>Wisdom Over Hype

“Leadership today is louder—but not always deeper.”

Wayland’s work is about rewiring leaders to navigate not just business chaos, but emotional complexity. Because modern leadership demands more than charisma—it demands character.

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#292 César Couto Ferreira: Don’t Believe the Hype—Design the Legacy Apr 12, 2025

César Couto Ferreira spent over a decade deep in the world of global media—shaping MTV across Europe and Africa, working with stars, and riding the wave from analog to digital. But when Amy Winehouse died, something broke. Not in the headlines, but inside him. He saw how the industry treated artists as content—not people—and decided he couldn’t be part of it anymore. That moment became his call to redesign his life.

In this episode, César shares how he left global prestige behind to build systems of real impact—helping governments, mentoring young entrepreneurs, and bringing Web Summit to Portugal.

For Gen Xers questioning the legacy of their work, this episode is a gut-check: you can walk away from the machine—and build something that lasts.

>>The Rise and the Reckoning

“I was living on the same street as Coldplay. But something felt deeply wrong.”

Cesar traces his rise from DJ to MTV exec—and the moment he realized proximity to fame doesn’t mean pride in the system.

>>When Amy Winehouse Died, Everything Shifted

“We prepped obituaries like playlists. And then Amy died. I couldn’t unsee it.”

Her death wasn’t just tragic—it was Cesar’s breaking point. It made him question everything about the machine he helped run.

>>Leaving the Bright Lights to Build Real Change

“I chose to stop. Not because I failed—but because I wanted to design something better.”

Cesar reflects on the long walk away from global media—and into tech, civic transformation, and mentorship across Portugal and Brazil.

>>Legacy Over Likes

“Media taught me how to influence. Now I’m using that skill for society.”

From helping bring Web Summit to Lisbon to working with governments and young founders, Cesar is now designing systems with human value.

>>Advice from a Media Veteran to the Always-Online Generation

“Read more books. Touch more people. Don’t believe the hype.”

Cesar leaves a timeless reminder: attention is power—and what you do with it matters more than who sees it.

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#291 Ryota Tanozaki: Escape the Trap, Redesign the Map Apr 12, 2025

Ryota Tanozaki didn’t pivot because of burnout—he pivoted to avoid a trap. While managing a turnaround project in rural Japan, he saw the writing on the wall: stay too long, and his world would shrink. Instead, he chose to bet on himself. He went global, earned an MBA from Chicago Booth, built a career across Facebook and Tabist (backed by Softbank Japan), and led a hospitality startup through one of the toughest periods in travel history. But his secret wasn’t speed—it was clarity.

In this episode, Ryota shares how to spot when your career path is narrowing, why perseverance matters more than perfection, and how real reinvention often starts with one question: what if I don’t want this to be it?

>>The Moment He Almost Settled

“I started thinking—what if my career ends in this rural city?”

While leading a department store turnaround in a quiet town, Ryota realized he might be stuck in a shrinking path. That moment of clarity sparked his move to go global—and never look back.

>>Escape the Trap, Rebuild the Map

“Challenge more. Risk more. Grow more.”

Ryota didn’t just dream of a bigger life—he designed it. Earning an MBA at Chicago Booth gave him global exposure and the networks to shift from domestic roles to international leadership.

>>Reinvention Isn’t Always Loud

“Sometimes the biggest moves start with a quiet discomfort.”

Ryota shares how he shifted from consulting to corporate roles—not in panic, but through steady recalibration and awareness of his evolving goals.

>>Leading Through Crisis Without Losing Yourself

“Three months in, COVID hit. We had to rebuild everything.”

As CEO of Tabist, Ryota didn’t just navigate crisis—he rewrote the company’s mission, strategy, and structure. All while staying grounded in purpose.

>>Mission Over Compensation

“When they visit those hotels, they see the mission in action.”

Ryota explains how he keeps his team motivated without big paychecks—by giving them something bigger than money: a mission they believe in.

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#290 Lora Chow: Reveries from the Trading Floor to the Concert Hall — Part Two Apr 12, 2025

In Part 2, Lora walks us through the why behind her return to music full-time. From co-founding Virtuoso Fiesta to launching her album Reveries on Ivories, she shares how composition became her storytelling tool—and how she sees music not just as art, but as a way to build peace, shift perspectives, and maybe even fix broken systems.

This isn’t a story about following your passion. It’s a story about building the courage to lead with it.
>>Reveries on Ivories (New Album) by Lora Chow<<
Apple | Spotify | YouTube | Amazon

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Why She Finally Left Finance

“The market felt irrational. Music didn’t.”

When external chaos pushes you inward.

Starting a Movement (Not Just a Company)

“We wanted to make classical music feel joyful—not stiff.”

How Virtuoso Fiesta became a playground for artistic freedom.

Composing for Change

“Music connects people—across language, across class. That’s its superpower.”

Why she writes music that talks back.

AI, Creativity, and Human Touch

“AI can help me transcribe. But it can’t feel what I feel.”

How she uses tech without losing the soul.

Belief Beats Strategy

“You need pen, paper, and confidence.” The advice that stuck—and how she teaches herself to trust her intuition.
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#289 Lora Chow: Reveries from the Trading Floor to the Concert Hall — Part One Apr 11, 2025

You don’t expect a hedge fund manager to also be writing operas. But Lora Chow has always done things differently. In Part 1, she shares how a childhood love of music led her to Yale, how she pivoted from potential math major to economics and music, and how the Hong Kong hustle—and one very lucrative offer—put finance ahead of passion… at least for a while.

This episode isn’t about quitting your job on a whim. It’s about trusting the detours that make the next chapter possible.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Music and Math at 17

“My heart wanted music. But my mom majored in math—and Hong Kong wanted finance.”

Why she chose Yale over Cambridge.

Ivy League Dissonance

“Everyone was applying to Morgan Stanley. I followed the crowd—and got the job.”

When ambition meets expectation.

Hedge Funds and Harmony

“I loved music. But I also wanted a home with a grand piano.”

Trading dreams for stability… and circling back.

A Voice Silenced

“I lost my voice for a year. That’s when I started composing.”

How injury redirected her path.

From Opera to Opportunity

How a summer program in Bulgaria unlocked a deeper calling—and a new kind of creativity.
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#288 Richard H. Carson: The 39-Step Playbook for Change That Doesn’t Collapse — Part Two Apr 11, 2025

Most change efforts fail because they forget one thing: people. In Part 2, Richard breaks down The Book of Change, his 39-step model for leading transformation without leaving common sense behind. We get into the difference between showing up with a framework vs. showing up ready to listen—and what AI might never understand about real leadership.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

What Most Consultants Miss

“They deliver a binder and disappear. That’s not help. That’s homework.”

Why Richard built his own model.

The 39-Step Framework

“Every step fixes something I’ve seen go wrong.”

It’s not bloated—it’s built from battle scars.

Empathy as Strategy

“You can’t shortcut human trust.”

Why listening well matters more than leading fast.

AI Won’t Solve Culture

“You can’t automate belief. You can’t code buy-in.”

Where technology hits its limit.

Advice That Changed His Career

“I don’t need your answer—I need you to hear me.”

His wife’s one-liner that became a leadership principle.

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#287 Richard H. Carson: The 39-Step Playbook for Change That Doesn’t Collapse — Part One Apr 10, 2025

Richard Carson’s career didn’t unfold by design—it unfolded by curiosity. From planning cities to fixing broken systems, he’s never been afraid to say, “This isn’t working—let’s figure out why.” In Part 1, he shares how a job he hated, a grocery store run, and one very weird time-tracking system helped shape his unconventional path to becoming a change consultant.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

From Archaeology to Urban Planning

“I thought I wanted to dig things up. Turns out, I just liked solving puzzles.”

How he traded bones for blueprints.

What They Say Isn’t the Real Problem

“The issue they give you is rarely the one they have.”

Why client work is part consulting, part detective work.

The Grocery Store Test

“If you can’t explain your plan in the produce aisle, it’s too complicated.”

What small-town planning taught him about communication.

The Micromanagement Disaster

“They were tracking tasks every 15 minutes. People were losing their minds.”

The worst system he ever saw—and why it failed.

Becoming a Consultant by Accident

“I hired consultants. They impressed me. So I quit and joined them.”

When one audit changed his career.
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#286 Michael Levitt: Ditch the Phone, Reclaim Your Sanity Apr 10, 2025

Michael Levitt nearly lost everything to burnout—a heart attack, job loss, foreclosure, and total collapse. But what brought him back wasn’t a digital detox retreat—it was Gen X wisdom: learning to reset without relying on tech.

As the founder of the Breakfast Leadership Network and burnout consultant to global execs, Michael now teaches others how to rebuild. In this episode, he explains why recovery starts with sleep, why analog habits like ditching your smartphone alarm matter, and why burnout is a system failure—not a personal flaw. For Gen Xers who straddle both worlds, this is a call to reclaim the best of both—and redesign a life that actually works.

>>The Burnout Spiral That Changed Everything

“In one year, I lost my job, my home, my car—and nearly my life.”

Michael shares the full collapse that led him from healthcare executive to burnout survivor. But the real story is how he rebuilt—on his own terms.

>>Gen X Wisdom: Unplug to Repair

“Buy an alarm clock. Get your phone out of your bedroom.”

Raised in the analog world, Michael draws on old-school logic to fix new-world problems. The simplest habit—sleep—might be your strongest defense.

>>Burnout Isn’t Personal—It’s Structural

“If your workplace is broken, no amount of yoga will save you.”

Michael breaks down how leaders need to stop treating burnout as an individual issue—and start fixing the systems that cause it.

>>Why the C-Suite Stays Silent

“Some of my clients are CEOs. You’ll never hear their names.”

Michael shares why the stigma around burnout runs deepest at the top—and how privacy, trust, and discretion are part of real recovery.

>>You Don’t Need a New Life—Just a New Setup

“Most people don’t need reinvention. They just need smarter defaults.”

With tools from CBT and NLP, Michael explains how changing your inner programming can help you regain control—without blowing everything up.

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#285 Steve Monaghan: The Advantage of Age in the Age of AI Apr 09, 2025

Steve Monaghan flips the script on innovation culture: experience isn’t a relic—it’s a strategic edge.

As General Partner at FinMir.ai, Limited Partner at True Global Ventures, Independent Non-Executive Director at RAK Bank, and former Chief Digital Officer at both AIA and DBS Bank, Steve brings a cross-industry view forged through decades of deep transformation. From aviation to fintech to AI, he shows how age fuels better questions, sharper pattern recognition, and global insight in a world obsessed with novelty.

Whether he’s building Asia’s first unicorn or designing systems that could restructure entire economies, Steve makes one thing clear: for Gen Xers tired of being underestimated, age isn’t a liability—it’s leverage.

>>Built to Learn, Not to Fit

“I wasn’t hired for my experience. I was hired for the questions I knew how to ask.”

Steve’s journey—from pilot to pricing guru to product architect—was never about titles. It was about learning faster than the system could teach him.

>>From N-O to K-N-O-W

“People don’t fear change. They fear not understanding it.”

Steve shares his framework for flipping resistance into insight. At DBS, it became a model: learning, venturing, capital. The goal? Turn skeptics into innovators.

>>Legacy Is Not a Headline

“This isn’t my next startup. It’s my swing-for-the-fences play.”

Steve’s current project could restructure economies by eliminating capital inefficiencies in payroll and supply chains. It’s big, bold—and designed to help the people most hurt by broken systems.

>>The Advantage of Age in the Age of AI

“Older workers know how to ask better questions. That’s the advantage.”

Forget the ageist myth. Steve explains why mature employees are becoming AI’s secret weapon—and why experience, not just coding, is the multiplier.

>>Mental Health Is Not a Risk Factor—It’s a Design Factor

“You can’t build resilient companies without resilient founders.”

As an investor, Steve supports founders with integrity, grit, and humility. That includes stepping back when needed—and being asked, not judged, for how you feel.

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#284 Katie Curry: Mentoring Gen Z Without Losing Your Gen X Soul Apr 09, 2025

In Part 2 of our conversation, Katie Curry flips the script—from navigating her own reinvention to mentoring the next generation through theirs. As a Gen X leader, she draws from both parenting and management to offer real tools for leading Gen Z with clarity, empathy, and pace. Katie doesn’t romanticize change—she makes it strategic. From book recs to career advice to community wisdom, this episode is a field guide for anyone navigating a multigenerational workplace—and still trying to grow on their own terms.

>>Gen Z Doesn’t Want Hierarchy—They Want Honesty

“We need to pick up the pace—and tell the truth.”

Katie breaks down what Gen Z really wants at work: clarity, fairness, and feedback that isn’t sugarcoated. She shares how leaders must shift—fast—or get left behind.

>>The Parenting Playbook That Works at Work

“I don’t lead with answers. I lead with questions.”

As a mom and a manager, Katie shares the same core strategy: focus, simplicity, humility, and curiosity. No, you don’t have to have all the answers. Yes, you still have to listen.

>>Advice for the Anxious Overachiever

“Find your superpower. Build the skill. Then learn how to pivot.”

Katie offers Gen Z three rules for thriving in chaos: develop what makes you valuable, build a true community, and treat change as a skill—not a flinch.

>>The Real Power of Community

“Community isn’t a contact list. It’s people who remember you 20 years later.”

Katie and Vince reflect on what lasting community really means—and how Gen X mastered long-haul relationships before the age of “likes.”

>>The Art of Learning Without Losing Yourself

“I consume books, podcasts, summaries—but reflection is where it all clicks.”

Katie shares her three pillars of learning: exposure, synthesis, and solitude. She explains why quiet time is not indulgent—it’s essential.

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#283 Katie Curry: Risk by Training, Reinvention by Choice Apr 09, 2025

Katie Curry doesn’t follow a path—she redraws the map. In this first of a two-part conversation, we explore her journey from communist Bulgaria to the heart of Wall Street, from technical risk roles to creative leadership. Katie shares how she builds mental toughness, adapts across industries, and leads Gen Z with humor and humility. Through it all, she reminds us that reinvention isn’t something you do once—it’s a muscle you build.

For Gen Xers who know how to change ambitiously, this is reinvention with purpose, not panic.

>>From Bulgaria to the Big Apple

“On that bus in Manhattan, I said—I want to work here one day.”

Katie’s first reinvention wasn’t a job—it was a total life shift. Growing up in a small town under communism, she shares how dreaming big and thinking globally reshaped her trajectory.

>>Credit, Creativity, and Everything in Between

“I’ve led analysts, operators, and creatives. You can’t lead them the same way.”

Katie breaks down how she adapted her leadership style across radically different teams—from rating derivatives to managing editors—and what each one taught her about people and power.

>>Risk Isn’t a Concept—It’s a Practice

“Some of my biggest breakthroughs came from the biggest pivots.”

With a career built around risk—from Citi to S&P to insurance tech—Katie reveals how she balances data and gut instinct, logic and psychology, and why you should never expect certainty before you leap.

>>Fail Fast, Learn Hard

“If you’ve never failed, you’re playing too safe.”

Katie redefines success through her personal KPIs: energy, impact, relationships, and learning. And she makes a strong case for post-traumatic growth—yes, even at work.

>>Leadership with Presence and Punch

“During COVID, my kids watched me lead from our kitchen table. That was my real resume.”

Whether she’s coaching a Gen Z team or raising one at home, Katie leads with clarity, care, and curiosity—and she’s not afraid to be both the strategist and the student.

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#282 Impact Over Egos, Substance Over Soundbites: Josh Geballe’s Real Playbook Apr 09, 2025

Forget hot takes and hustle porn—Josh Geballe has built a career on real outcomes, not optics. As a former IBM exec, startup CEO, crisis-tested public leader, and now head of Yale Ventures, he’s navigated every kind of system—and rewired more than a few. In this episode, Josh breaks down what it takes to lead without ego, make career moves without a roadmap, and support innovation without turning it into performance.
For Gen Xers designing careers that are built, not branded, this is substance over soundbites in its purest form.
>>Career Strategy ≠ Life Strategy

“I never chased titles. I chased impact—and the challenge that came with it.”

From IBM to a 16-person startup, Josh explains why logic alone doesn’t drive bold moves—and how gut instinct often knows best.

>>Public Sector, Private Resolve

“Nothing in my tech career prepared me for a global pandemic—but it helped me lead through one.”

As Connecticut’s COO, Josh didn’t just manage state operations—he ran its COVID response. He reflects on balancing fear, facts, and forward motion in an impossible time.

>>Yale Ventures: Innovation Without the Ego

“PhDs know how to explain ideas to journals. I help them pitch to the real world.”

Now leading Yale Ventures, Josh shares how he mentors faculty and students to translate research into startups—and how real innovation starts with learning to listen.

>>Startup Lessons That Actually Scale

“Startups taught me how to stretch every dollar. Government taught me how to stretch every second.”

Josh draws on lessons from his software CEO days to modernize systems at scale—without turning leadership into theater.

>>Advice for the Impatient Ambitious

“Your first job? Work for someone you want to become.”

Josh offers Gen X-flavored guidance to early-career MBAs: skip the shiny job titles and find mentors who challenge how you think, not just what you do.

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#281 Irina Filippova: Courage Is the Career Plan Apr 08, 2025

Irina Filippova is not here to perform change—she’s here to live it. From her early career as a Russian diplomat to her current role as COO of a BlackRock-backed energy transition venture, Irina has made a habit of rewriting the rules instead of following them. In this episode, she shares what it really means to be a self-starter in a world obsessed with shortcuts, how real leaders use courage to stay in integrity, and why the most meaningful change begins with inner work.

For anyone who’s tired of career templates and startup posturing, Irina offers something better: a real-time masterclass in designing a life and legacy on your own terms.

>>Built for Change—Literally

“I’ve never inherited a job. Every role, I created from scratch.”

Irina walks us through her journey from UN think tanks to BP’s rebrand to leading energy transition from the ground up—each step a reinvention by design.

>>Courage ≠ Chaos

“Leadership is courage. And courage means staying in integrity.”

Forget the bravado. Irina breaks down why real courage isn’t about reckless risk-taking—it’s about showing up, following through, and walking away when the values don’t align.

>>The Myth of the Unicorn

“We glorify unicorns—and then wonder why leaders burn out.”

Irina calls out the toxic myths in startup culture and shares a grounded vision for building businesses that last longer than a product cycle.

>>Change Starts Inside

“I thought I needed to change the world. Turns out, I needed to change myself first.”

Before she could consult CEOs, Irina had to rewire her own beliefs—thanks to deep inner work at the Jung Institute in Zurich. This is change leadership with a soul.

>>Electrifying a New Industry

“We provide the electric fuel. You focus on logistics. Simple.”

Now COO of Electrata, Irina explains her company’s mission to make clean energy logistics seamless for fleets—so the energy transition doesn’t get stuck in jargon or infrastructure nightmares.

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#280 Greg Morley, Author of Bond: Building Belonging in the Age of Burnout Apr 08, 2025

This episode dives into Bond, the new book by Greg Morley—former global DEI head at Moët Hennessy and veteran HR leader at Disney and Hasbro. Vince and Greg unpack the emotional undercurrent of modern work—how a broken culture can push people into burnout and how small moments of recognition can pull them back. With global insight and Gen X clarity, Greg shares what real inclusion looks like on the ground, from Asia to Europe to the U.S. If you’re ready to lead with depth, not just diversity metrics, this conversation is your blueprint.

>>When Belonging Breaks

“There’s a crisis of loneliness at work—and it’s costing us more than we know.”

Greg shares why he wrote Bond and how companies miss the mark when they treat inclusion as a buzzword instead of a survival strategy.

>>From Burnout to Breakthrough

“Once that sense of belonging disappeared, I spiraled into burnout—and then depression.”

Vince opens up about his own career-breaking experience with mental illness, triggering a candid dialogue about what happens when work becomes unsafe, and how fragile even top performers can be without support.

>>Inclusion Starts With the Conductor

“Inclusion isn’t HR’s job—it’s everyone’s job. Especially leaders.”

Greg introduces the five “keys” from his book, including why leadership visibility, emotional presence, and shared stories are more powerful than any KPI.

>>The Myth of a Global Template

“You can’t cut and paste DEI from New York to Hong Kong.”

Drawing from his years across Asia, the U.S., and Europe, Greg explains why inclusive cultures must start with listening, not imposing—especially in diverse regions like Asia where family and collective identity take center stage.

>>Beyond the Culture Wars

“Most people want to feel seen. That’s not woke—it’s human.”

Greg offers a grounded perspective on how to lead through today’s politicized climate without losing sight of what DEI is really about: creating space for people to contribute, grow, and thrive.

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#279 Greg Morley: Built, Not Bought—The Gen X Playbook for Real Inclusion Apr 08, 2025

Greg Morley isn’t reinventing himself at midlife—he’s been reinventing all along. As a Gen X leader who’s shaped HR and DEI strategy at Disney, Hasbro, and Moët Hennessy, Greg represents the quiet force of a generation that never needed to go viral to make an impact.
>>From Complaint Calls to Corporate Change

“80% of the calls were complaints. That’s how I learned to listen—fast.”

Greg started in the trenches and never forgot what real work feels like. That early frontline experience now shapes how he has led global people strategies with heart and head.

>>Gen X Leaders Don’t Wait for Playbooks—They Write Them

“I didn’t plan to be in HR. I planned to understand people.”

Whether designing HR strategy at Hasbro or rewriting DEI systems at Moët Hennessy, Greg leads with insight, not instruction manuals.

>>Diversity Without the Optics

“Rewiring beats rebranding—every time.”

Greg breaks down how he rebuilt DEI from the inside out, ditching the optics for honest structures, tough conversations, and measurable change.

>>Global Insight, Local Action

“Diversity in Cognac, France doesn’t look like diversity in New York. That’s the point.”

From Paris to Hong Kong, Greg’s work proves that inclusion isn’t a one-size-fits-all program. It’s a flexible framework built on understanding where you are—and who you’re there for.

>>Bond: The Book That Calls BS on Performative Belonging

“People don’t want politics. They want to be seen, heard, and valued.”

In his new book Bond, Greg cuts through the noise and reframes inclusion as something human—not hype. This isn’t theory. It’s the Gen X guide to building meaningful connection in work and life.

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#278 Helen Hanison: Outgrowing the Career Everyone Else Envies — Part Two Apr 07, 2025

So you’ve figured out your career isn’t working—now what?

In Part Two, Helen brings in the big guns: her framework for getting unstuck, redesigning with purpose, and navigating the messy middle of change.

We unpack the real reasons people stay stuck, why perseverance isn’t always a virtue, and how to redesign a career that fits who you are now—not who you were five years ago. It’s part psychology, part strategy, and 100% relatable.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Three Acts of Career Redesign

“You cannot skip alignment. That’s the inner work—and it’s where most people rush or skip entirely.”

Helen breaks down the phases of Alignment, Redesign, and Transformation—and why each one matters.

Why Strengths Aren’t Enough

“If you only build around your strengths, you’re just building on sand.”

Strengths are great—but without alignment, they won’t carry you through a real change.

Hope Maps and the Myth of the Linear Path

“We confuse a hard day with the wrong direction. That’s where Hope Mapping comes in.”

How visualizing obstacles in advance helps you stick to the right path, not bail on it too soon.

Letting Go of the Career Lie

“We’ve been told perseverance is always noble—but sometimes, quitting is the smarter move.”

A fresh take on what it really means to be “resilient” in your career.

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#277 Helen Hanison: Outgrowing the Career Everyone Else Envies — Part One Apr 07, 2025

Helen Hanison spent 20 years climbing the ladder in global PR firms. Board-level status, international travel, million-dollar campaigns—on paper, it was a dream. In reality? Not so much. Motherhood collided with management meetings, and suddenly, Helen realized her high-flying career didn’t align with the life she actually wanted.

In Part One, Helen shares her pivot from leading global branding campaigns to guiding leaders out of careers that no longer fit. She opens up about the painful years of career confusion, her psychology degree detour, and how she turned it all into her second act: coaching professionals through career redesign.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:

From Global PR to “Wait… What Now?

“I was flying around the world on million-dollar projects and somehow still feeling hollow.”

Why success metrics lose their shine when they’re no longer aligned with your real life.

Motherhood Meets Management

“I was building a family and being promoted at the same time—something had to give.”

When personal change outpaces professional structure, the misalignment can’t be ignored.

The Pain of ‘Unlit’ Work

“I wasn’t unhappy… but I wasn’t lit up either.”

Helen explains the subtle but serious signs that your career isn’t working anymore.

The Accidental Clues to a Future Calling

“I used to take every team member out for coffee and ask them what they wanted next. That was coaching—I just didn’t know it yet.”

Sometimes your next career is hiding in the way you showed up for others in your last one.

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#276 Change Management Without the Migraine: Nellie Wartoft’s Global Fix — Part Two Apr 06, 2025

While most people treat change like an unwanted software update, Nellie Wartoft builds the system that makes it work.

As the founder of Tiger Hall, she’s on a global mission to turn resistance into results. From Europe to Asia to the U.S., Nellie’s seen it all—and she’s here to share why change isn’t the enemy, but badly handled change definitely is. In this two-part series, we’ll talk about cross-cultural leadership, why change efforts so often crash and burn, and how to make sure yours doesn’t.

Key Highlights of Our Interview

Hating SharePoint and Finding a Better Way

“The inefficiency of tools like SharePoint highlighted a fundamental gap: employees struggling to align with HQ’s vision. Miscommunication bred resistance and fatigue, even when both sides had good intentions. The question arose—why can’t change communication be as engaging as social media or Spotify?”

The Universal Human Side of Change

“No matter where you are in the world, the human psyche reacts similarly to change—fear, chaos, uncertainty, and emotion are universal experiences. Change fatigue and resistance aren’t cultural anomalies; they’re deeply human responses shared across geographies.”

The Ego Factor: A Leadership Killer

“High-ego, high-fear leaders stifle transformation. They resist feedback, take criticism personally, and foster a top-down, do-as-I-say culture. Modern transformation demands collaborative leadership that embraces input, fosters trust, and thrives on dialogue—not outdated command-and-control styles.”

“Short-Term Results vs. Long-Term Vision”

“U.S. organizations prioritize quarterly results and trend-driven decisions, like the AI boom. Meanwhile, Asian companies often take a more measured, long-term approach, rooted in heritage and identity. Both approaches have their strengths but lead to vastly different paces of execution.”

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#275 Change Management Without the Migraine: Nellie Wartoft’s Global Fix — Part One Apr 06, 2025

While most people treat change like an unwanted software update, Nellie Wartoft builds the system that makes it work.

As the founder of Tiger Hall, she’s on a global mission to turn resistance into results. From Europe to Asia to the U.S., Nellie’s seen it all—and she’s here to share why change isn’t the enemy, but badly handled change definitely is. Part One of this international wisdom drop starts now.

Key Highlights of Our Interview

More Cows Than People: The Swedish Small-Town Origin Story

“Growing up in a small village in southern Sweden—population: lots of cows, not many humans—instilled an early drive to explore bigger horizons. For professional and cultural reasons, leaving was a must.”

The McDonald’s Effect: Discovering Professional Passions

“The guest credits their time flipping burgers at McDonald’s as a pivotal moment in shaping their career. It was there they discovered their love for three key elements: a high-paced environment, the thrill of commercial success, and the art of leadership. These ‘professional addictions’ would become the foundation of every role they pursued.”

Resilience and Identity: Anchoring Yourself Beyond Titles

“Basing your identity on external factors like job titles or status is a risky game—what happens if they’re taken away? Instead, ground your sense of self in unshakable traits: hard work, learning, good intentions, or resilience. These are constants, no matter what life throws your way.”

Life of Adventure vs. Life of Leisure

“Challenging societal norms, the guest recounts a thought-provoking quote: ‘A life of leisure is hell, and a life of adventure and purpose is heaven.’ From childhood, we’re often told to seek rest and relaxation, but the guest argues that purpose and adventure are what truly give life meaning.”

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#274 Robert MacPhee: Robert MacPhee: Clarity, Chicken Soup, and a Midlife U-Turn — Part Two Apr 05, 2025

Robert MacPhee didn’t start out teaching values—he started out parking cars. But somewhere between the valet stand and becoming Jack Canfield’s right-hand man (yes, that Chicken Soup guy), Robert found his lane. Now the author of Living a Values-Based Life, he’s guiding people to stop driving in circles and finally align their actions with what truly matters.

In our 2-part series, we dig into the real reason so many of us struggle to name our core values (spoiler: it’s not because we’re lazy—it’s because no one ever taught us how). Robert also breaks down why clarity is the unsung hero of decision-making, and why living out of sync with your values is like following GPS directions with the volume on mute.
Part Two.

Key Highlights of Our Interviews:

Why It’s So Hard to Define Our Own Values

“Most people’s initial list of values often reflects what they think others want to hear. We’re so conditioned to impress others or meet external expectations that it’s challenging to pause and ask: What truly matters to me? The real magic begins when we strip away external noise and align with our authentic priorities.”

How a Values-Based Life Can Improve Work

“Clarity about values doesn’t just make personal life better—it’s transformative for work too. Aligning your actions with priorities like contribution or integrity can help you show up fully, even in challenging moments. That alignment makes work feel purposeful instead of draining.”

Do Values Change Over Time? The Short Answer: Yes.

“Values aren’t set in stone—they evolve with life stages and circumstances. For instance, what mattered to you in high school may be worlds apart from what tops your list in your sixties or seventies. Life experiences, like becoming a parent or caring for aging loved ones, naturally shift our focus, making values an ongoing conversation, not a one-time declaration.”

Keeping Values Visible

“The importance of keeping your values front and center can’t be overstated. Whether on your phone, bathroom mirror, or bedside table, revisiting your values regularly keeps them aligned with your current life stage. A daily reminder to reflect, re-anchor, and adjust ensures your values stay relevant.”

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#273 Robert MacPhee: Robert MacPhee: Clarity, Chicken Soup, and a Midlife U-Turn — Part One Apr 05, 2025

Robert MacPhee didn’t start out teaching values—he started out parking cars. But somewhere between the valet stand and becoming Jack Canfield’s right-hand man (yes, that Chicken Soup guy), Robert found his lane. Now the author of Living a Values-Based Life, he’s guiding people to stop driving in circles and finally align their actions with what truly matters.

In our 2-part series, we dig into the real reason so many of us struggle to name our core values (spoiler: it’s not because we’re lazy—it’s because no one ever taught us how). Robert also breaks down why clarity is the unsung hero of decision-making, and why living out of sync with your values is like following GPS directions with the volume on mute.
Part One.

Key Highlights of Our Interviews:

A Masterclass with Jack Canfield

“I was fortunate to work closely with Jack Canfield, the co-creator of Chicken Soup for the Soul. Over nearly a decade, I learned invaluable lessons about personal development and training, which inspired me to branch out and develop my own concept—Excellent Decisions.”

Living a Values-Based Life

“My current focus, and the heart of my book, Living a Values-Based Life, is helping people clarify their most important values. Once they’re clear on those, they can create a life—and in many cases, a business—that truly aligns with what matters most to them.”

What Are Values, Really?

“At its core, values are what’s most important to us. They define how we want to show up in the world and guide the ways we choose to be. When we are clear about our values, they become a compass, fundamentally shifting how we navigate life and work."

Why Are Values So Hard to Define?

“Most people struggle to articulate their values simply because no one teaches them how. Schools don’t prioritize it, and while parents might model certain values, they often don’t have the tools to guide their children through truly understanding and clarifying their highest values. It’s not intuitive, and it’s certainly not a one-hour workshop—it’s a journey.”

Values Are More Than Ideals; They’re Tools

“Without clearly defined values, navigating life is like walking blindfolded. You may move forward, but without a compass, you risk heading in the wrong direction. Society constantly pushes external markers like money, cars, or houses as measures of success. But aligning goals with deeply personal values, like strengthening family relationships or contributing to a cause, brings fulfillment and focus.”

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#272 Erin Diehl: Talk Show Dreams, Improv Realities — Part Two Apr 04, 2025

Part Two.

Erin Diehl dreamed of being the next Oprah but ended up becoming the queen of corporate improv instead. Now the founder and CEO of Improve It, she helps teams laugh their way to better performance. A self-declared “failfluencer,” Erin turns every faceplant into a feature. In this two-part series, we dig into her journey, her joy-first philosophy, and why bombing on stage—or in life—might be the best thing that ever happened to you.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

WTF: Worst Terrifying Failure

“2020 was my crash course in failure. The pandemic forced our in-person business to pivot entirely online overnight. At the same time, I juggled new motherhood, supporting a recovering parent, and trying to keep my business afloat. It was my WTF moment: my Worst Terrifying Failure.”

This breakdown captures the essence of the MOVE ON methodology:

1. Marinate: Sit With It, Not In It

Failure isn’t something you can brush off overnight. Take the time to sit with your worst terrifying failure—your WTF story. Reflect deeply. Walk, journal, or simply allow yourself to process. It’s about feeling without rushing to fix.

2. Own It: Forgive and Face the Thought Worms

“Own your part in the failure, but more importantly, forgive yourself. We repeat 80% of our negative thoughts daily, so break that cycle. Recognize those thought worms for what they are and stop letting them dictate your story.”

3. Verify the Lessons: What Will You Take With You?

“Failure comes bearing lessons—two or three takeaways that you can carry forward. Identify what you’ve learned and how you’ll avoid the same pitfalls in the future. This step transforms failure into wisdom.”

4. Evaluate: What’s the Plan?

5. Observe the Growth: Prepare for the Next Chapter

6. Embrace Failure as Part of Change

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#271 Erin Diehl: Talk Show Dreams, Improv Realities — Part One Apr 04, 2025

Part One.

Erin Diehl dreamed of being the next Oprah but ended up becoming the queen of corporate improv instead. Now the founder and CEO of Improve It, she helps teams laugh their way to better performance. A self-declared “failfluencer,” Erin turns every faceplant into a feature. In this two-part series, we dig into her journey, her joy-first philosophy, and why bombing on stage—or in life—might be the best thing that ever happened to you.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Improv Meets the Corporate World

“I didn’t plan to merge improv and business. But during my nine-to-five at a recruiting firm, my nights were dedicated to stages at Second City and ImprovOlympic. Suddenly, I saw how listening, empathy, and quick thinking from improv transformed my work life. The dots connected.”

United We Innovate

“Pitching an improv workshop to United Airlines was a gamble, but it paid off—literally. What started as a passion experiment became a calling when United became my first paying client. Improv wasn’t just for the stage anymore.”
The Teacher’s High

“That feeling of guiding someone toward growth is intoxicating. It’s a high I kept chasing, and the more I taught, the more I wanted to do it. Seeing others find joy became my own source of joy.”

From ROI to ROO: The Objective Shift

“We don’t measure ROI; we measure ROO—Return on Objective. Every engagement starts with a consult call to pinpoint your specific challenges and objectives, ensuring everything aligns with the participants’ needs.”

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#270 Nina Sossamon-Pogue: From Olympic Dreams to Pink Slips—and Back Again — Part Two Apr 03, 2025

Nina Sossamon-Pogue knows a thing or two about reinvention. Olympic dreams? Derailed by injury. Journalism career? Cut short with a pink slip. But Nina doesn’t stay down for long.
Yesterday in Part One, we tumbled through Nina’s journey—her high-flying wins, faceplants, and the grit that kept her going. Today in Part Two, we unpack the tools she’s created to help others bounce back from life’s inevitable wipeouts. Because let’s face it: real life doesn’t come with a crash mat.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Why the Reverse Resume Matters

“When hiring, I ask, ‘What’s something you’ve overcome?’ That’s where the magic is. Those bottom-line moments define the strength you bring to every table.”

The Power of Perspective: Achievements and Challenges Together”

“Your resume tells one story, but your reverse resume tells the deeper truth: what you’ve overcome. Together, they define not just what you’ve done, but who you are.”

“Success vs. a Successful Lifetime: Spot the Difference”

“A nice car, a big house, a shiny jet—that’s success. But a successful lifetime? That’s the legacy, the relationships, the impact. The timeline reveals the whole messy, marvelous story.”

Life is a Bag of Legos

“Imagine dumping out a Ziploc bag full of Legos. Same colors, same shapes, same pieces. Yet, you’d build something entirely different from me. That’s your life—it’s uniquely yours to assemble.”
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#269 Nina Sossamon-Pogue: From Olympic Dreams to Pink Slips—and Back Again — Part One Apr 02, 2025

Nina Sossamon-Pogue knows a thing or two about reinvention. Olympic dreams? Derailed by injury. Journalism career? Cut short with a pink slip. But Nina doesn’t stay down for long. In Part One, she walks us through her journey of turning life’s plot twists into podium finishes—and why setbacks are just somersaults in disguise.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Personal Toll of Public Life

“While doing three live shows a day, I went through a divorce, an accident, and some of the darkest moments of my life. I wondered if I’d ever feel happy again.”

Finding Your Sweet Spot: Skills, Opportunities, and Trends

“When making a career pivot, ask yourself three key questions: What am I good at? Where’s the money? And what’s the trajectory of the industry I’m entering? Aligning these answers sets the foundation for a successful transition.”

Coffee, Conversations, and Clarity: Gaining Insight From Your Network

“To discover where I could make an impact, I turned to trusted colleagues and asked: If you had to hire me, what would you hire me for? Their answers revealed skills I hadn’t fully recognized and pointed me toward opportunities I hadn’t considered.”

Your Skills, Seen Through Fresh Eyes

“What others find valuable in you might surprise you. It’s a reminder to seek outside perspectives—they could reveal your next big opportunity.”
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#268 Rebecca Sutherns: Building a Life That Flexes—Not Breaks — Part Two Apr 02, 2025

In Part 2, the focus shifts to how Rebecca helps others through turning points—especially people who are accomplished, capable, and a little too comfortable. She challenges leaders to imagine the future before chasing it, unpacks how midlife isn’t a crisis but a creative window, and talks through what momentum really looks like when you’re not sure what to do next.

Draw the Future – “You can’t walk toward what you haven’t pictured.” Why strategy starts with sketching, not spreadsheets.

Elastic Leadership – A stretched mind stays strong. A stuck one snaps. How to find your own tension point—and work with it.

Rebecca's book: Elastic - Stretch without snapping or snapping back

Midlife Isn’t the End of the Book – It might be the best chapter. Rebecca reframes age as a lever, not a limitation.

Momentum Beats Motivation – Motivation is moody. Momentum is movement. Here’s how to find it again.

Parenting, Coaching & Boundaries – Why coaching your kids is a terrible idea—but letting them crash your book club isn’t.

This isn’t an episode about reinvention theory. It’s about what to do when you’ve stopped moving—and how to start again, without blowing everything up.

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#267 Rebecca Sutherns: Building a Life That Flexes—Not Breaks — Part One Apr 01, 2025

Rebecca Sutherns didn’t set out to become a solo strategy coach. She trained for a global career, then paused it to raise four kids, said yes to client work when she could find a babysitter, and ended up building a 27-year practice on her own terms. In Part 1, she walks us through the pivots and trade-offs that shaped her work—not from a five-year plan, but from being fully in the moment.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

When the Global Plan Hit Pause – How a promising career in international development took a backseat to malaria pills, pregnancy, and timing.

The Business Started by Saying Yes – “If I liked the people and could sort childcare, I did the job.” No vision board, just real life.

The Accidental Mentor – A conversation in Australia flipped how she charged—and earned her five times more.

Why She Didn’t Scale – Rebecca explains why staying solo wasn’t a fallback, but a deliberate choice to stay agile and human.

Reinvention in Real Time – Every few years, she didn’t change jobs. She changed her lens.

If your resume doesn’t make sense on paper, Rebecca’s story will remind you: maybe it’s not the paper that needs fixing.

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#266 Jean Zhou: From Balance Sheets to Box Office Apr 01, 2025

What happens when a sociology major dabbles in accounting, dips into venture capital, and then rewrites her script—literally? You get Jean Zhou. Now a filmmaker and CEO of Wind Entertainment, Jean’s career plotline includes more genre shifts than a Netflix queue. She traded spreadsheets for screenplays and hasn’t looked back since.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Creating Stories: Founding Wind Entertainment

“In 2019, I founded Wind Entertainment. Initially, we incubated writers and even won several Best Novel Awards. By 2020, we ventured into drama series, writing our first script, The Starry Love. It aired on four TV stations in China and was distributed to over 30 countries.”

Sociology: A Bridge Between Business and Humanity

“Sociology opened my worldview and helped me understand people better. Ultimately, the business world is about relationships—between people and people. Sociology gave me insights into the social mind and thoughts, which help decode the essence of business.”

The Seeds of a Producer’s Journey

“As a child, I had to go to bed at 9 p.m., even though TV programming continued until 10. That early frustration planted the idea in my mind—one day, I’d take control of storytelling. Fast forward to 2018, when I watched the TV series Ashes of Love and realized it was the most incredible thing to create a project like that. I decided it was something I had to try, at least once in my life.”

The Limitations of AI in Screenwriting

“While AI brings efficiency, its impact on screenwriting remains minimal. Scripts are tailored works of art, built to surpass expectations. AI, by contrast, is a summary of past material, often resembling a Wikipedia outline. Such drafts lack the depth and creativity necessary for a fully developed script that would appeal to buyers.”

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#265 Colin Savage: The Frequent Flyer of Change Has Thoughts on AI—and Lifelong Learning — Part Three Apr 01, 2025

Part Three.

If change were a sport, Colin Savage would have a trophy room. He’s worked in 70+ countries, lived in 7, and reinvented himself more times than most of us change our passwords.
In this episode, Colin calls out lifelong learning as passé and introduces his take: skill stacking. Plus, we get into why having a personal AI strategy might be just as important as having a LinkedIn profile. Buckle up—Colin’s not slowing down, and neither should you.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Skill Stacking: Building the Professional Toolkit

“Skill stacking, by contrast, is about curating abilities that complement one another professionally. It’s not about learning everything, but about combining practical skills—like emotional intelligence and technical expertise—to tackle complex challenges with a well-rounded approach.”

AI as a Symphony, Not a Solo

“The real power of AI lies in its harmony with other tools and disciplines. No single tool can address every need, but by leveraging the strengths of multiple technologies in concert, professionals can tackle challenges faster, smarter, and more effectively.”

Cheating AI? The Consequences Are Real

“From students to professionals, relying on AI without human effort leads to steep penalties. A student might fail, a professional might face fraud charges. The higher the stakes, the more critical it is to leverage—not outsource—human intelligence.”

From Problem-Solving to Value Creation

“AI isn’t just a tool for fixing problems—it’s a way to grow and extend what’s already working. By pairing the strengths of people and machines, businesses can unlock untapped potential and deliver results that weren’t possible before.

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#264 Colin Savage: The Frequent Flyer of Change Has Thoughts on AI—and Lifelong Learning — Part Two Mar 31, 2025

Part Two.

If change were a sport, Colin Savage would have a trophy room. He’s worked in 70+ countries, lived in 7, and reinvented himself more times than most of us change our passwords.
In this episode, Colin calls out lifelong learning as passé and introduces his take: skill stacking. Plus, we get into why having a personal AI strategy might be just as important as having a LinkedIn profile. Buckle up—Colin’s not slowing down, and neither should you.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Kung Fu Panda Approach to Change

“Wise, measured, and reflective—the best change leaders channel their inner ‘Kung Fu Panda turtle.’ Fewer words, deeper thought, and a collective approach to charting the path forward. Because real insight comes when you listen more than you speak.”

Why Collective Decisions Matter

“Making life-altering changes isn’t a solo act. Consulting with those affected—be it family, colleagues, or friends—adds invaluable perspectives. Ignoring this step risks blind spots and unanticipated challenges that could have been addressed earlier.”

Lifelong Learning: The Good, the Bad, and the Outdated

“While lifelong learning emphasizes constant self-improvement, it often lacks focus. Simply chasing degrees, certifications, or skills without purpose can lead to a disjointed portfolio of knowledge. The real magic happens when learning is intentional and builds toward expertise.”

Skill Stacking as a Career Superpower

“Focused learning that combines seemingly unrelated skills can redefine your career trajectory. It’s not just about learning for the sake of it—it’s about intentionally connecting knowledge areas to create a broader, more adaptable toolkit for the future.”

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#263 Colin Savage: The Frequent Flyer of Change Has Thoughts on AI—and Lifelong Learning — Part One Mar 31, 2025

Part One.

If change were a sport, Colin Savage would have a trophy room. He’s worked in 70+ countries, lived in 7, and reinvented himself more times than most of us change our passwords.
In this episode, Colin calls out lifelong learning as passé and introduces his take: skill stacking. Plus, we get into why having a personal AI strategy might be just as important as having a LinkedIn profile. Buckle up—Colin’s not slowing down, and neither should you.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Chasing Novelty vs. Finding Purpose

“It’s easy to leap into new opportunities just because they look exciting. But what’s the endgame? Without a deeper reason or plan, chasing novelty can leave you with unfinished experiences and a string of ‘almost-there’ moments. Purpose turns adventures into meaningful chapters.”

Addicted to Change: Thrill or Trap?

“Addiction to novelty isn’t inherently bad—it pushes boundaries and opens up opportunities. But unbridled chasing without reflection or completion risks shallow experiences. The key? Balancing the thrill of change with the discipline to extract value from every leap.”

Change as a Tool, Not a Fix

“Change for the sake of novelty often leads to dissatisfaction. Instead, approach change as a tool for growth, not a quick fix. Thoughtfully evaluate your motives, assess your readiness, and embrace change as a means to align with your purpose—not as an escape from discomfort.”

Japan: A Surprising Example of Measured Change

“Even in traditionally conservative cultures, like Japan’s life insurance industry, meaningful change can thrive. Success here came not from disruption but from careful planning, patience, and conversations that built consensus. Change, when handled thoughtfully, can flourish even in the most traditional environments.”

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#262 Erica Sosna: Rebuilding Her Career—and Spine—One Step at a Time – Part Two Mar 29, 2025

Erica Sosna knows about career change—but 2022 brought a plot twist even she didn’t plan for.

A life-altering accident left her paralyzed, and suddenly her to-do list included “relearn walking” and “rebuild everything.” Now, she’s back—walking, thriving, and reminding us that bouncing back takes more than pep talks—it takes grit, grace, and a stubborn refusal to stay down. Part One.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Speaking the Same Career Language: The Foundation of The Career Equation

“The Career Equation is designed to create a common understanding between employers and employees around career development, much like having a shared accounting system. Without it, career conversations risk inconsistency and lack of clarity, but with it, we can truly align aspirations and strategies.”

Building Career Conversations with Four Simple Components

“The Career Equation focuses on four key insights: understanding strengths, uncovering passions, measuring success, and aligning with optimal work environments. These components create a common ground, enabling both employer and employee to understand what’s needed to thrive.”

Insatiable Curiosity: Embracing Unconventional Paths to Healing

"An insatiable thirst for novelty keeps me exploring, whether it’s acupuncture, microcurrent therapy, or spine-specific chiropractic techniques. I’ve discovered that healing requires openness to new possibilities, even when they fall outside the traditional model.”

The Right Environment: The Crucial Factor for Success

“From workspace to team dynamics, the environment is essential to performance. Knowing where a person does their best work and making adjustments as needed creates a space where strengths can flourish.”

Visualizing the Outcome: A Plan Begins with the End in Mind

“I start by envisioning the experiences I want—whether it’s dancing, running, or picking up my child—then map out the steps that would lead me there. By framing it with vivid goals, I find clarity and purpose in the smallest daily actions.”

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#261 Erica Sosna: Rebuilding Her Career—and Spine—One Step at a Time – Part One Mar 29, 2025

Erica Sosna knows about career change—but 2022 brought a plot twist even she didn’t plan for.

A life-altering accident left her paralyzed, and suddenly her to-do list included “relearn walking” and “rebuild everything.” Now, she’s back—walking, thriving, and reminding us that bouncing back takes more than pep talks—it takes grit, grace, and a stubborn refusal to stay down. Part One.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Two Jobs, Two Failures: A Gut Check Moment

“After two roles that didn’t work out as planned, I hit a crossroads. I took a step back and asked: am I in the right place? I needed to rethink my priorities, work style, and the kind of organization that would truly support me.”

The School of Hard Knocks: Rejections and Redirections

“Returning to the corporate world after running my own social enterprise was unexpectedly tough. My CV was different, unconventional, and people didn’t trust me to hold down a job. It took resilience to find an organization that valued my unique experience.”

Shifting Gears: When Your Work Becomes Your Solace

“Returning to my consultancy after a year’s absence was grounding. My work has always been my passion, but after such a physically uncontrollable experience, the familiar structure felt like a comfort. It also became a chance to rethink: How could I reach more people, make a bigger impact? And so, the podcast was born.”

A Balancing Act: Rediscovering Purpose in a Three-Day Week

"Managing a business on a three-day week, while also recovering from a spinal cord injury and parenting, meant redefining success. I’ve refocused on what truly matters, aligning my time with my gifts and refining how I reach people. It’s been a balance of impact and sustainability.”

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#260 Rahshea Cardiff: From Starbucks to Startups—Serving Joy at Work – Part Two Mar 28, 2025

Part Two. Joy, but make it scalable.

After opening up about grief, growth, and career pivots in Part One, Rahshea Cardiff is back—this time to talk about the business side of happiness. As VP of Partnerships at Happy Companies, she’s building tech-driven tools that actually help humans (imagine that!). From burnout prevention to culture repair, this episode explores her vision for making workplaces feel a little less like work.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Unbecoming to Become: Shedding What Isn’t You

"Maybe it’s not about becoming anything. Maybe it’s about unbecoming everything that isn’t who you really are."

The Power of Staying True to Yourself

“I was told I needed to change who I was… to fit into somebody’s picture of what they thought I should be. Instead, I learned to step into who I am and be proud of it.”

Unlocking a Team’s Full Potential through Behavioral Insights

“With Happy, leaders get a snapshot of every team member—how they’re wired, their strengths, their energy drivers, and what drains them.”

Putting a Personalized Coach at Every Leader’s Fingertips

“Happy’s platform essentially puts a one-on-one coach at the fingertips of every leader and employee, including self-coaching to improve communication and motivation.”

Human Stories and Tech-Driven Scalability: A Perfect Balance

“Technology is terrific for us at Happy; it provides the behavioral insight, but it’s that human coach who can tell the story, make it personal, and take it to the next level of impact.”

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#259 Rahshea Cardiff: From Starbucks to Startups—Serving Joy at Work – Part One Mar 27, 2025

Part One. Joy at work? Sounds suspicious. But Rahshea Cardiff is making it happen.

As VP of Partnerships at Happy Companies and a corporate veteran of Microsoft, Starbucks, and Best Buy, Rahshea has serious street cred. But her story isn’t just about big names—it’s about big life lessons.

In this episode, she gets real about love, loss, and career reinvention—plus why she believes your workplace should feel a little less like a chore and a lot more like a choice. Join us as she shares how her personal journey brought her to a company with “happy” in its name—and how she plans to make that more than just branding.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Conditioned Ambition: The Corporate Ladder Wasn’t the Life I Wanted

“As we’re growing up, we go to school, we get good grades, we go to college, we get married, buy a house. Climb the corporate ladder—it’s what we’re taught, what we see. But in 2016, everything shifted—I realized I was chasing something that no longer felt right."

Loss and Legacy: Realizing We’re Not Promised Tomorrow

“Losing my mother and going through a divorce within a year taught me that we all fall into this trap of thinking there’s always tomorrow. I began asking myself, ‘If today were my last day, would I be at peace with how I spent it?’ Too many times, the answer was no. I knew it was time to recalibrate.”

Choosing Purpose Over Position

“I walked away from corporate stability and took a leap into entrepreneurship. And now, working with Happy, I’m able to stay close to my family and focus on meaningful work that aligns with my values.”

The Gift of Presence: Living in the Moment

“When we are able to shift our mindset and perspective to live in the present, it really is such a gift.”

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#258 Alison Stewart: The LinkedIn Message That Changed Everything — Part Two Mar 27, 2025

Most people scroll through LinkedIn to procrastinate. Alison Stewart used it to land her next big thing.
In Part One of this two-part series, Alison shared how she left her comfy finance job mid-pandemic to join a 16-person startup she found—wait for it—through networking online. Today, we dig into Overalls, the startup that thinks your benefits should actually benefit you. Novel, right?
Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Building a Village for Every Stage of Life

“Overalls is essentially your village… supporting you through life’s messier, more complex situations, like helping an elderly parent or finding summer camps for kids.”

A Rare Benefit That Earns Employee Appreciation

“This is one of the first times HR is getting thanked by employees for a benefit… they’re amazed at how thankful employees are for the support.”

Confidence in Uncharted Territory

“The biggest challenge was… do I have the skill set to do these things? Am I qualified to make some of these decisions?… In this environment, it’s all core because again, if you’re not doing it, it’s not getting done.”

Keep Your Goals in Sight: Write Them Down

“We can get distracted… By writing it down, being honest with ourselves, talking to others, that’ll help us hold ourselves accountable to what it is that we’re looking for.”

The Power of Focus and Manifesting the Right Move

“I wasn’t reaching out to a million people… I was focused, determined to put the time and energy in. My excitement led me to take a risk, and it worked.

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#257 Alison Stewart: The LinkedIn Message That Changed Everything — Part One Mar 27, 2025

Most people scroll through LinkedIn to procrastinate. Alison Stewart used it to land her next big thing.
In Part One of this two-part series, Alison shares how she left her comfy finance job mid-pandemic to join a 16-person startup she found—wait for it—through networking online. We talk about career pivots, gut instincts, and how she slid into her co-founder’s inbox like a pro. Tomorrow, we dig into Overalls, the startup that thinks your benefits should actually benefit you. Novel, right?
Key Highlights of Our Interview:

"What Am I Doing?” – Hitting Pause on the Corporate Grind

“During the pandemic, time started blending together. I had to stop and ask, what am I doing? Am I happy?” Those months at home made me realize how I’d been running on autopilot, stuck in a cycle of new leadership teams and constant resets. With every change, it felt like we were taking ten steps back just to make one forward."

“The Safety Net of a Strong Company” – Navigating Stability vs. Fulfillment

“You can get caught up in…having a strong company, great group of colleagues…new opportunities coming at you. But it might not be what truly motivates you.”

“Controlling for Risk Factors” – Making Thoughtful Career Moves

“I was trying to control for those risk factors, or at least account for them…what was I comfortable with? How would it impact my family?”

“Overalls Caught My Eye” – The Power of an Unexpected Spark

“I was sitting at work…reading about the launch of Overalls, and I got really excited. People almost stopped me, saying, ‘Allison, nothing gives you as much excitement as this opportunity."

“Taking Skills Beyond Insurance” – Exploring New Industries on LinkedIn

“I was interested in exploring something outside the insurance industry…how does my experience, how do my skills translate, and how do I communicate them effectively?”

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#256 Nicole F. Roberts: From Neuroscience to Generosity—Changing Lives, One Detour at a Time — Part Two Mar 26, 2025

If your brain just short-circuited at the phrase “Brain Summit at the Super Bowl,” you’re not alone.

In Part 2, Nicole dives into the backstory of Generosity WINS, the book she co-authored with Monty Wood—and how they turned a business idea into a human story with real voices, a fictional lead, and zero fluff. Spoiler: there’s a QR code in the book that leads you to the actual humans behind the wisdom.

This episode is part research, part heart, and all human. If you’ve ever doubted whether generosity can be a strategy, Nicole will change your mind.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

ROI of Generosity? – “You can’t measure karma with a spreadsheet.” But Nicole explains why generosity still pays back—in time, trust, and unexpected career breaks.

Behind the Book – How a business fable with real people became a new kind of leadership playbook.

Meet Emily (She’s Fictional) – Why a made-up hotel manager ties it all together, and what hospitality has to do with generosity.

Can You Teach Generosity? – Nicole’s answer will surprise you—and it involves boys’ schools and grief.

The Brain Summit at the Super Bowl – Concussions, jazz, neuroscience, and 5,000 of their “closest friends”—how Nicole built a brain health movement in America’s loudest weekend.

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#255 Nicole F. Roberts: From Neuroscience to Generosity—Changing Lives, One Detour at a Time — Part One Mar 26, 2025

You don’t earn the title “Dr.” and then co-author a book about kindness by sticking to a script.

In Part 1, Nicole F. Roberts—Doctor of Public Health, neuroscience nerd, and co-author of Generosity WINS—takes us through her very non-linearjourney. From failed chemistry dreams to starting a human rights firm during her PhD “break,” Nicole’s path proves that detours can be more meaningful than the original plan.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Chemistry Flop That Sparked a New Career – “I realized I was terrible at chemistry… and didn’t want to spend life writing prescriptions.”

From Neuroscience to Public Policy to Public Health – The career pivot map that should be framed as modern art.

A Six-Month Break That Turned Into Six Years – “My dissertation chair died. I got divorced. So I started a human rights firm.” (As one does.)

Why Policy ≠ Change – “Policy is great—until politics gets involved. I needed to see the change I wanted to make.”

Finding Her Real Voice – How lived experience reshaped her doctoral research and her purpose.

If you’ve ever hit pause on your career, doubted your direction, or rerouted your GPS mid-PhD—this episode is proof it’s not the end. It might be the best part.

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#254 Deborah Perry Piscione: The End of Traditional Work Begins — Part Two Mar 24, 2025

What happens when a political insider, a Silicon Valley entrepreneur, and a bestselling author walk into a podcast? You get Deborah Perry Piscione. She’s gone from shaping policy in Washington, D.C., to writing Employment is Dead, and she’s here to unpack why work as we know it is crumbling.

Traditional employment is on life support, and Deborah Perry Piscione is here to explain why. In Part 2 of this two-part series, she breaks down the radical shift in how we work, hire, and learn—plus what it means for companies that refuse to adapt.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Future of Learning – “My son skipped college, built a six-figure business at 15, and spent a year in Antarctica learning survival skills. That kind of real-world experience? You can’t teach that in a classroom.” Why degrees are losing their grip, and how alternative education paths are creating a new kind of talent pipeline.

Employment is Dead? – “No, I’m not saying people should sit in their parents’ basement playing video games. I’m saying we don’t have to tolerate outdated, soul-crushing jobs anymore.” Deborah sets the record straight on the book’s provocative title.

What Companies Must Do Now – “One person can now do the job of three or four. So what happens to the others? If companies don’t plan for that, they’ll lose their best people before they even see it coming.” Why leaders need to rethink how they train, retain, and engage talent before AI and Web3 force their hand.

Work3 and the New Rules of Employment – “We built the Work3 Institute to help companies move forward before they get left behind. The question isn’t ‘Will work change?’ It’s ‘Are you ready for it?’” How Deborah and Josh Drean are guiding businesses through the transformation.

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#253 Deborah Perry Piscione: The End of Traditional Work Begins — Part One Mar 24, 2025

What happens when a political insider, a Silicon Valley entrepreneur, and a bestselling author walk into a podcast? You get Deborah Perry Piscione. She’s gone from shaping policy in Washington, D.C., to writing Employment is Dead, and she’s here to unpack why work as we know it is crumbling.

In Part 1 of this two-part series, Deborah takes us on a wild career ride—working in the White House, pivoting to Silicon Valley, and learning that fear and division drive politics, but collaboration fuels innovation. She shares how a single conversation at a Starbucks led to her first venture funding (yes, really), why failing fast is a non-negotiable skill, and how risk-taking has shaped her entrepreneurial journey.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

From Capitol Hill to Silicon Valley – “In D.C., I learned how to divide people. In Silicon Valley, I learned how to bring them together.” Deborah reflects on her 18 years in Washington and how moving west flipped her worldview on work, collaboration, and success.

The Starbucks Moment – “I was in line at Starbucks when a stranger asked, ‘How can I help you?’ Three weeks later, I was sitting with a top venture capitalist who said, ‘I like you. Figure out something to do. I’ll fund you.’” Deborah’s introduction to Silicon Valley’s pay-it-forward culture changed everything.

Entrepreneurial Instincts – “Most of my companies weren’t grand plans—I just saw a problem and built a solution.”From launching a networking platform for women in venture capital to creating a sweat-proof undershirt on a speaking tour, Deborah proves that the best businesses start with simple observations.

Work is Changing—Are You? – “We’re moving into a bifurcated workforce—traditional employment will still exist, but the smartest workers are creating their own playbook.” Why the old career paths are fading, and how the next generation is redefining success.

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#252 Work3 Institute Co-Founder Josh Drean: Employment is Dead. Now What? — Part Three Mar 24, 2025

Part Three of a 3-part series on Josh Drean. Josh has worn many hats—Harvard MBA, psychology grad, co-founder of Work3 Institute and now, co-author of Employment is Dead (Harvard Business Review Press).

We’re kicking off 2025 with a bang—by declaring employment dead. Yes, you read that right. Josh Drean is here to dismantle the traditional job market, toss outdated HR policies into the digital abyss, and redefine what it means to work in the modern world.

In the Part 1 of a three-part series with Josh, where we dig into why the corporate world’s obsession with employee engagement surveys is as effective as asking your toaster for career advice. Spoiler alert: Most companies don’t actually want honest feedback from employees.

Today's Part 3, where we take the conversation even deeper into the new rules of work.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Degrees vs. skills: The battle for relevance – If Josh and Vince, proud Ivy League grads, are questioning the value of degrees, maybe it’s time we all did.

Web3, DAOs, and the digital workplace revolution – Why the next wave of companies won’t have middle managers breathing down your neck.

What happens to companies that don’t adapt? – Hint: They’ll struggle to attract Gen Z, Gen Alpha, and anyone who doesn’t dream of a soul-sucking 9-to-5.

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#251 Work3 Institute Co-Founder Josh Drean: Employment is Dead. Now What? — Part Two Mar 24, 2025

Part Two of a 3-part series on Josh Drean. Josh has worn many hats—Harvard MBA, psychology grad, co-founder of Work3 Institute and now, co-author of Employment is Dead (Harvard Business Review Press).

In the Part 1 of a three-part series with Josh, we dug into why the corporate world’s obsession with employee engagement surveys is as effective as asking your toaster for career advice. Spoiler alert: Most companies don’t actually want honest feedback from employees.

Here in Part 2, where look deep into the book's journey: how did this provocative and ambitious book come about in the very first place?

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

A Book Born from a Cold Call

“I know this sounds completely random, but do you want to write a book together?” That’s how co-author Deborah Perry Piscione kickstarted Employment is Dead. One unexpected call, a bold idea, and a title sticky enough to catch Harvard Business Review’s attention.

The Slow Reality of Publishing in a Fast-Changing World

“Can you imagine writing a chapter about a year ago and then having it publish a year later? It’s outdated week to week almost.” While AI and Web3 reshape the workforce at lightning speed, traditional publishing still takes years. To bridge the gap, Josh turned to TikTok, LinkedIn, and YouTube—engaging with audiences in real-time while waiting for the book’s release.

A 120-Page Proposal and a Bidding War

“Before we knew it, we had 120 pages of this proposal, which was much too long.” What started as an overstuffed pitch ended in a bidding war among publishers. The reason? Josh and Deborah weren’t just talking about changing work culture—they were exposing how outdated employment structures hold workers back.

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#250 Work3 Institute Co-Founder Josh Drean: Employment is Dead. Now What? — Part One Mar 24, 2025

Part One of a 3-part series on Josh Drean. Josh has worn many hats—Harvard MBA, psychology grad, co-founder of Work3 Institute and now, co-author of Employment is Dead (Harvard Business Review Press).

We’re kicking off 2025 with a bang—by declaring employment dead. Yes, you read that right. Josh Drean is here to dismantle the traditional job market, toss outdated HR policies into the digital abyss, and redefine what it means to work in the modern world.

This is Part 1 of a three-part series with Josh, where we dig into why the corporate world’s obsession with employee engagement surveys is as effective as asking your toaster for career advice. Spoiler alert: Most companies don’t actually want honest feedback from employees.

Stay tuned for Part 2, where we take the conversation even deeper into the new rules of work.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Why “people are our greatest asset” is corporate gaslighting – If people were really assets, why are they still an expense on the balance sheet?

The future is flexible, but companies are stuck in the past – Why forcing employees back to the office is like making them commute to a typewriter factory.

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#249 Chris Hare: When the Story Guy Becomes the Story — Part Three Mar 23, 2025

Chris Hare usually helps execs polish their pitches—but now he’s in the hot seat. In this three-part series, we flip the script and unpack the art (and occasional chaos) of storytelling.

• Part 1 dives into the world of corporate storytelling—what works, what bombs, and how to not sound like a robot in a boardroom.

• Part 2 gets personal—Chris shares stories that shaped him, including a few that left lasting impressions (for better or worse).

• Part 3 puts theory into practice—Chris hands us the tools to craft our own stories, and I test them out… possibly with tissues nearby.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Power of a Reflective Movie Theater Exercise

“I have people visualize that movie that plays is actually not the blockbuster. It’s actually your life playing and your career…What might you call that movie?”

Beyond the Corporate 360: Finding Stories That Matter

“This is not the 360 that many of us from corporate America are used to…the goal here is to go and talk to three to five people who know you, care about you, and want you to succeed.”

Feedback as a Double-Edged Sword

“People could give feedback that might reinforce the wrong narrative…we just have to be careful and think about them as inputs, not absolute truths.”

The Weight of Opinions and Invisible Biases

“We unknowingly put more weight on some people’s opinions than others…whether it’s because of the friendship, the level of friendship, or the position they have.”

Rewriting Stories with Every Interaction

“I’m never telling the same story twice. I’m rewriting the story as I’m telling you based on your face, your facial expressions, your body language, your tone of voice. There are all those factors that play into it that make it incredibly complex.”

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#248 Chris Hare: When the Story Guy Becomes the Story — Part Two Mar 22, 2025

Chris Hare usually helps execs polish their pitches—but now he’s in the hot seat. In this three-part series, we flip the script and unpack the art (and occasional chaos) of storytelling.

• Part 1 dives into the world of corporate storytelling—what works, what bombs, and how to not sound like a robot in a boardroom.

• Part 2 gets personal—Chris shares stories that shaped him, including a few that left lasting impressions (for better or worse).

• Part 3 puts theory into practice—Chris hands us the tools to craft our own stories, and I test them out… possibly with tissues nearby.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Rewriting Your Inner Cassette Tape

“I find it helpful and more visceral to think about our personal narratives as a cassette tape—a tape that’s playing in our head that we’re constantly writing, rewriting, and adjusting.”

Building One Authentic Narrative Across Multiple Worlds

“A serial CEO I worked with wanted one narrative that connected his private equity, board roles, and yoga community. The result was an authentic narrative rooted in his true self that could be lensed across different audiences.”

Proximity Blinds Us to Our Own Stories

"We’re so close to our own narrative and stories that we don’t see the broader picture… if you’re building with Lego, you might not see that there’s a gigantic pile of Lego behind you."

Changing the Inputs to Shift the Narrative and Change the Outcome

“If you continue to put in the same inputs, things likely won’t change… One of the positive inputs I changed was I got into fly fishing, and that was part of changing those inputs to shift not only the narrative but the outcomes.”

The Power of Raw Storytelling

"Our stories are not always the really clean, really curated story that makes us look good, but that raw story that has the power to shift the future."

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#247 Chris Hare: When the Story Guy Becomes the Story — Part One Mar 21, 2025

Chris Hare usually helps execs polish their pitches—but now he’s in the hot seat. In this three-part series, we flip the script and unpack the art (and occasional chaos) of storytelling.

• Part 1 dives into the world of corporate storytelling—what works, what bombs, and how to not sound like a robot in a boardroom.

• Part 2 gets personal—Chris shares stories that shaped him, including a few that left lasting impressions (for better or worse).

• Part 3 puts theory into practice—Chris hands us the tools to craft our own stories, and I test them out… possibly with tissues nearby.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Stories Fuel the Narrative

“In my mind, stories are time-bound: this happened, it started here, it ended there. But the narrative is ongoing—it’s an architecture shaping the direction of an individual or company.”

Storytelling’s Overplayed? Think Again

“For years, I wouldn’t even call myself a storyteller because it was so overplayed. Everyone is using frameworks like the hero’s journey as if they’re paint-by-numbers. But storytelling is far more complex.”

The Narrative Flywheel: Stories That Drive Strategy

“The stories are the fuel that flows into the flywheel. We synthesize them, find patterns, and decide where to play and how to win. Then, with experimentation and learning, we create more stories—and the flywheel keeps spinning."

Human-Centered Design in Action: Logitech’s Transformation

“Bracken Darrell took Logitech’s failing narrative and reframed it with a vision: human-centered design across every part of the company. This vision wasn’t pushed from the top but inspired teams, driving Logitech’s turnaround—from 30-day financial reporting to just two.”

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#246 Todd Davis: 30 Years at FranklinCovey—7 Habits They Don’t Teach in Business School — Part Two Mar 21, 2025

In a world obsessed with AI, automation, and the next big tech trend, Todd Davis believes human intelligence is more valuable than ever.

Sure, AI can crunch numbers, but can it build trust, resolve conflicts, or make people feel heard?

In Part 2, we go straight into the human side of leadership—why most people don’t actually listen, why trust is like a bank account, and how one employee nearly lost her career over a simple blind spot. Todd also shares a powerful story about a prison inmate who transformed his life using The 7 Habits—a reminder that leadership isn’t about titles, it’s about impact.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Art of Actually Listening – “Most people aren’t listening. They’re just waiting for their turn to talk.” The leadership skill no one teaches—but everyone needs.

The Trust Bank Account – “Withdraw too much without making deposits, and you’ll be bankrupt.” How trust works just like money—and why leaders must invest in it.

A Career Almost Ruined by One Blind Spot – “She was the smartest person in the room. But no one wanted to work with her.” How self-awareness can make or break careers.

The 7 Habits… In Prison – “An inmate wrote to us saying the book changed his life.” How leadership principles apply anywhere—even behind bars.

Why Human Intelligence is the Competitive Advantage – “Companies are chasing AI skills. But what they actually need? People who can think, communicate, and lead.”

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#245 Todd Davis: 30 Years at FranklinCovey—7 Habits They Don’t Teach in Business School — Part One Mar 20, 2025

Leadership advice is everywhere, but Todd Davis has spent 30 years at FranklinCovey actually proving what works.

As the former Chief People Officer, he didn’t just teach leadership—he lived it. From recruiting and training top talent to coaching CEOs, Todd has seen the best and worst of workplace culture. And in case you’re wondering—yes, The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People still apply (maybe now more than ever).

In Part 1, Todd shares how he accidentally landed at FranklinCovey, built a career around leadership and trust, and why most organizations completely misunderstand what it means to be “effective.” If you’ve ever been in a job where meetings multiply, work feels chaotic, and leaders seem out of touch, this episode is your guide to what actually works.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

From Recruiting to the C-Suite – “I was just hiring people. Then suddenly, I was leading them.” How Todd built a 30-year career at FranklinCovey without a roadmap.

The Secret to Long-Term Career Growth – “I didn’t hop around jobs. I stayed put and made an impact.” Why depth beats breadth when it comes to leadership growth.

The 7 Habits Still Work—Here’s Why – “They’re not business tactics. They’re human principles.” Why Covey’s habits still drive success decades later.

What’s Wrong With Workplaces Today? – “People don’t hate work. They hate how work is designed.” The biggest reasons employees feel drained—and how leaders can fix it.

The #1 Leadership Skill People Get Wrong – “Most leaders think they’re clear. They’re not.” How poor communication destroys trust in organizations.

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#244 Lisa Bodell: The Future is Simple—If We Stop Overcomplicating Everything — Part Two Mar 20, 2025

What if the biggest barrier to innovation isn’t a lack of ideas—but too much unnecessary work?

As the CEO of FutureThink, Lisa Bodell has spent years helping companies cut through the clutter and focus on what actually matters. From eliminating pointless meetings to ditching outdated processes, she’s on a mission to make simplicity a competitive advantage.

In Part 2, Lisa takes us behind the scenes of her work with organizations like Google, Pfizer, and Amazon to help them remove, not add. She also explains why mental clarity and simplicity are just as important at a personal level—and how she applies these principles to her own life.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Kill a Stupid Rule – “Pfizer realized one of their biggest problems wasn’t innovation—it was getting things done.” How eliminating bad rules changed the company’s culture.

Why Simplicity Fuels Innovation – “We don’t have a shortage of ideas. We have a shortage of time to think.” The surprising truth about why most teams struggle with creativity.

The Hustle Trap – “Busy doesn’t mean productive. It just means you’re overwhelmed.” How overwork and hustle culture are hurting both employees and businesses.

Applying Simplicity to Your Own Life – “Simplicity isn’t about organizing—it’s about removing the stuff that clutters your mind.” Why Lisa swears by decluttering for mental clarity.

The Future of Human Skills – “AI is great at giving answers. But humans are great at asking the right questions.” Why skills like curiosity, resilience, and creativity will be more valuable than ever.

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#243 Lisa Bodell: The Future is Simple—If We Stop Overcomplicating Everything — Part One Mar 20, 2025

Lisa Bodell didn’t just study the future—she built a career helping companies prepare for it.

As the CEO of FutureThink, she’s been at the forefront of innovation for over 20 years, teaching leaders how to embrace change before it’s too late. But her path to becoming a futurist wasn’t planned—it started in advertising, took a detour into consulting, and ultimately led her to reinvent how organizations approach creativity and change.

In Part 1 of this two-part series, Lisa shares her personal journey—from selling creative ideas in ad agencies to studying foresight and helping Fortune 500 companies navigate uncertainty. Along the way, she breaks down what it really means to be a futurist (hint: it’s not about predicting trends) and why most companies resist change until it’s too late.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

From Ad Agencies to FutureThink – “I was great at selling creative ideas. But I realized people needed to learn how to generate them.” How Lisa’s early career sparked a passion for teaching innovation.

What the Heck is a Futurist? – “No, it’s not about guessing trends. It’s a structured way of planning for multiple possible futures.” Why real futurists use models—not crystal balls.

Taking the Leap into Entrepreneurship – “When you work for yourself, there’s no safety net. But that’s what makes it exciting.” Lisa’s shift from corporate life to running her own company.

Why Most Companies Resist Change – “People aren’t tired of innovation. They’re tired of all the other stuff getting in the way.” Why complexity kills creativity in organizations.

The Power of Pivoting – “The best entrepreneurs know when to shift—because nothing stays the same.” How Lisa evolved FutureThink over the years.

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#242 Monte Wood on Generosity: The Most Underrated Career Cheat Code — Part Two Mar 19, 2025

Monte Wood, former CEO of Opus Agency and author of Generosity Wins, knows that generosity isn’t just about being nice—it’s a game-changer in business and life.
From working with icons like Steve Jobs and Mark Benioff to lessons from his mom, Monte has seen firsthand how small acts of giving create big returns. In this episode, he breaks down why generosity is the real secret to happiness and career success—and why it’s more powerful than you think.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Generosity Beyond Kindness: Lessons from Steve Jobs, John Chambers, and Andy Jassy

“Steve Jobs’ goal to democratize technology was generous, even if his approach wasn’t. Leaders like Chambers and Jassy showed that while generosity doesn’t always come with kindness, the drive to uplift others’ success is, in itself, a powerful form of generosity.”

The 600-Day Challenge: How Practicing Generosity Daily Transforms You

“Documenting a daily act of kindness, whether it’s a smile or genuine listening, became a habit that revealed a thousand ways to be generous—proof that practicing generosity opens new perspectives.”

Unexpected Generosity in a Hot Tub: A Chat with Elon Musk

“In an unexpected encounter, Musk showed genuine interest and warmth, sharing laughs and stories. It was a small gesture, but a powerful reminder of the impact of unexpected generosity from those at the top.”

The Hidden Costs of Greed and Division in Today’s Media

“With opinion-driven media stirring division, the challenge lies in overcoming these forces with conscious generosity and mutual respect—proving that true strength is found not in agreement, but in the ability to disagree respectfully.”

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#241 Monte Wood on Generosity: The Most Underrated Career Cheat Code — Part One Mar 18, 2025

Monte Wood, former CEO of Opus Agency and author of Generosity Wins, knows that generosity isn’t just about being nice—it’s a game-changer in business and life.
From working with icons like Steve Jobs and Mark Benioff to lessons from his mom, Monte has seen firsthand how small acts of giving create big returns. In this episode, he breaks down why generosity is the real secret to happiness and career success—and why it’s more powerful than you think.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

True Generosity in Leadership: More Than Just Charity

“Being generous isn’t just about grand acts of philanthropy. It’s about caring for the individual. Whether it’s helping employees grow beyond their roles or driving an old Toyota to work, leaders like Andy Grove and Mark Benioff show that humility and connection are what truly drive success.”

Why Generosity is the Key to Confidence, Courage, and Success

“Generosity isn’t just about giving—it’s a strategic move toward success. Helping others builds faster, more meaningful relationships, while also boosting your own confidence and courage. Harvard’s 50-year study shows that close connections are the top predictor of happiness, and generosity is the engine that powers those relationships.”

Tracking the Untrackable: The True ROI of Generosity

“Generosity doesn’t fit into the typical business models of ROI—no one’s handing you a direct return. Yet, the rewards are undeniable. Life has a way of paying you back tenfold, proving that being generous might be the most strategic investment you can make, even if it can’t be measured in dollars.”

Generosity Isn’t Always Grand – Sometimes It’s Just a Smile

“Even the smallest act of generosity can be life-changing. A smile, a kind word, or even cleaning up a public restroom can shift someone’s day. In a world full of loneliness and depression, simple acts of generosity may be the most powerful way to create joy and connection.”

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#240 Dominic Carter: Cracking Japan’s Business Code – From Market Research to Aging Tech – Part Two Mar 18, 2025

If you think aging tech is just about nursing homes and health monitors, think again.

Dominic Carter, CEO of The Carter Group, is uncovering massive, untapped opportunities in the aging population—starting with Japan, one of the most aged countries in the world. From wearable tech that steadies shaky hands to high-tech bedsheets that improve sleep, he’s on a mission to rethink how we age.

In Part 2, Dominic breaks down the challenges, cultural barriers, and business opportunities in aging tech. Whether you’re an entrepreneur, investor, or just navigating the realities of aging parents (which, let’s be honest, is most of us), this episode is packed with insights.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Personal Push – “Watching my parents struggle with aging made me realize how much better it could be.” How a frustrating experience led to a game-changing business idea.

The Tech Struggle is Real – “It’s not the technology that’s lacking—it’s the mindset around adopting it.” Why older generations resist helpful tech and what needs to change.

The Future of Aging Tech – “We tested 26 products, but only a few stood out.” What works, what doesn’t, and the two innovations that are making a real impact.

Japan’s Aging Economy – “30% of Japan’s population is over 65. That’s not a niche—it’s the future.” Why the biggest consumer market is also the most overlooked.

Advice for Builders & Investors – “If you don’t listen to users, you’ll fail. It’s that simple.” The do’s and don’ts of launching a product in this space.

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#239 Dominic Carter: Cracking Japan’s Business Code – From Market Research to Aging Tech – Part One Mar 17, 2025

Not everyone dreams of moving abroad, starting a business in a foreign country, and navigating life in an entirely different culture—but Dominic Carter did. He is now the CEO of The Carter Group (CarterJMRN KK, Living Best™, Carter Executive Search KK, Delacon Japan KK).

Originally from Australia, he found himself drawn to Japan, where he built a career, a business, and a life over the past two decades. But the journey? Far from smooth.

In Part 1 of this two-part series, Dominic shares how he went from feeling like an outsider in his own country to becoming a successful entrepreneur in Japan. Along the way, he opens up about burning out, bouncing back, and why he believes Japan attracts a certain type of person.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

From Australia to Japan—By Way of Curiosity – “I always knew I’d live overseas. Japan fascinated me as a teenager, so I studied the language… but didn’t study enough.” The accidental road to an international career.

Thrown Into the Deep End – “At 24, I was sent to open an office in Tokyo. I was young, underprepared… and burned out fast.” What happens when responsibility comes too soon.

The Boomerang Effect – “I left Japan, thinking I was done. Six months later, I was back—this time, on my own terms.” Why walking away can sometimes lead you right back.

Entrepreneurial Instincts – “I always admired entrepreneurs. Even as a kid, I knew I didn’t want a boss.” The making of a business owner in a country known for its rigid corporate culture.

Building, Pivoting, and Reinventing – “I started in market research, worked with global brands, then expanded into software and aging tech.” The evolution of an entrepreneur who refuses to stay in one lane.

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#238 Paul Austin on Rethinking Growth: Can Psychedelics Unlock Your Potential—Legally? Mar 17, 2025

We’re joined by Paul Austin, CEO of Third Wave, who believes psychedelics can be powerful tools for transformation—when used responsibly. While these substances remain illegal in many places and are wrapped in ongoing medical and legal debates, Paul is on a mission to educate, not evangelize.

As your host, I keep this forum open to diverse voices, not to pass judgment but to spark critical thinking. We explore the myths and realities of psychedelics—how they might enhance mental clarity, creativity, and personal growth, while also addressing safety concerns, legal roadblocks, and the importance of responsible use.

Curious about how legalization and decriminalization efforts are unfolding globally? Check out this BBC article for a snapshot of what’s happening around the world.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Real Risks of Psychedelics: Safety First

“While psychedelics promise transformation, the biggest risk isn’t just physiological—it’s legal. These substances are still illegal in most places, so getting caught can have serious consequences. Beyond that, psychedelics can create instability if not handled with the right support and a safe environment.”

Mindset Matters: Intention in Psychedelic Use

“The real benefits of psychedelics start with intention. Using them to learn, grow, or heal can unlock deep insights, but if it’s just to escape reality, the impact is far less meaningful. For anyone interested, working with a professional—be it a coach, therapist, or shaman—is essential. Preparation and a safe setting are crucial for a transformative experience.”

The Five Elements for a Safe and Meaningful Psychedelic Journey

“There are five essential elements: assessment, preparation, facilitation, integration, and microdosing. From asking the right questions to committing fully to the experience, each step helps build a safe and transformative path. Start low, go slow, and choose to step into this journey for yourself—not for anyone else.”

Microdosing as a Catalyst, Not a Crutch

“Microdosing isn’t about masking problems; it’s about creating neuroplasticity for real change. With commitment—two to three times a week for 30 days—you can catalyze significant shifts in mood, decision-making, and self-awareness. But this journey, like any transformation, relies on intention and responsibility. Microdosing is a tool, but you hold the reins to lasting growth.”

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#237 Stuck in Career Purgatory? Darcy Eikenberg on Turning Work Woes into Wins Mar 16, 2025

If you’ve ever fantasized about quitting in a blaze of glory—or just quietly disappearing—this episode is for you. Career coach and author Darcy Eikenberg believes there’s a better way. In Red Cape Rescue: Save Your Career Without Leaving Your Job, she shares why leaving isn’t always the answer and how to unlock the hidden opportunities right where you are. Tune in to discover the career-saving superpowers you didn’t know you had.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Feeling in Control – How Red Cape Revolution Inspires

“Red Cape Revolution isn’t about superhero costumes; it’s about bringing that sense of confidence, where your shoulders are back, and you’re ready to face the world, into the workplace. With Red Cape Rescue, you can turn those career speed bumps into moments of self-rescue, without waiting on anyone else for change.”

Crafting a Fear Strategy for Modern Life

“We all have that primitive part of our brain—the same one that saved our ancestors from tigers. It kicks in when we see an email from our boss, triggering fear even when there’s no real threat. I call it the ‘lizard brain,’ but we can override it by tapping into our ‘heroic brain’ to control our responses.”

“Our fear responses are overused in today’s world, making us pull back and hide. Instead, I encourage people to forge a fear strategy: decide ahead of time how to respond when fear hits. Ask yourself, ‘What’s in my control here?’ and choose a different thought to keep fear from taking the wheel.”

Can’t See the Label from Inside the Jar? Here’s a Trick

“We’re all stuck in our own jars, so I recommend stepping back by recording yourself venting about a situation. Play it back, pull out the facts, and let go of the stories your brain adds. It’s like listening to a friend’s dilemma—it’s amazing what we hear from the outside.”

Self-Awareness: The Key to Unlocking Clarity

“True clarity comes from self-awareness. If something bothers you, take a deeper look: What personal value feels violated? Self-reflection is vital because the same situation might impact you differently than others, all depending on how you’re wired.”

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#236 From Disney Magic to Real-World Teamwork: Tricia & Edward’s Guide to Collaboration That Works – Part One Mar 16, 2025

We live in a world where “connections” are made with a click, but real collaboration takes more than a follow and a like. How do we build relationships that actually last?

In Part One, I sit down with Tricia Cerrone and Edward J. van Luinen, two former Disney colleagues who turned workplace synergy into a decade-long friendship and a thriving business partnership. Now, they’re co-authoring a book to help others master the art of collaboration.

In Part Two, we’ll break down their framework—five key behaviors and a “noble purpose” approach that makes teamwork more than just a buzzword.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Why Telling People to ‘Collaborate’ Doesn’t Actually Work

“Think you can just tell your team to collaborate and expect magic? Think again. Collaboration isn’t one action—it’s a mix of behaviors, and it starts with the individual, not fancy tools or technologies.”

Why Collaboration Equals Innovation

“Collaboration boosts innovation exponentially. It’s not about wasting time competing with colleagues; it’s about working together to solve problems and deliver innovative solutions that make your company stand out.”

Noble Purpose: More Than Just Vision and Mission

“Leaders need to remind their teams of the noble purpose behind their work. Whether it’s delivering diapers or developing apps, connecting individuals to the bigger impact they have on customers is key to motivation and collaboration.”

The Hidden Barriers to Teamwork: Why Collaboration Fails

“From egos to insecurities, collaboration struggles often stem from within. True teamwork begins by addressing these internal challenges, transforming both ourselves and our workplace relationships.”

Why Gratitude and Generosity Aren’t Just Nice-to-Haves

“Generosity creates safety, resourcefulness unlocks solutions, and gratitude gives teams the chance to rest and recover. Together, these behaviors make collaboration more than a buzzword—they make it work.”

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#235 From Disney Magic to Real-World Teamwork: Tricia & Edward’s Guide to Collaboration That Works – Part One Mar 15, 2025

We live in a world where “connections” are made with a click, but real collaboration takes more than a follow and a like. How do we build relationships that actually last?

In this episode, I sit down with Tricia Cerrone and Edward J. van Luinen, two former Disney colleagues who turned workplace synergy into a decade-long friendship and a thriving business partnership. Now, they’re co-authoring a book to help others master the art of collaboration.

In Part Two, we’ll break down their framework—five key behaviors and a “noble purpose” approach that makes teamwork more than just a buzzword.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Emotional Banking: The Secret to Long-Lasting Work Relationships

“Relationships at work thrive on trust, respect, and mutual goals. By making consistent positive deposits into the ‘emotional bank,’ teams can evolve into high-performing units. Delivering results is key, but so is showing up for each other and building something lasting, as Trish and I found over a three-year project.”

Collaboration Isn’t Just Tools—It’s Human Connection

“The business world is spending almost $40 billion on collaboration tools, which are a band-aid for our failures to communicate. If you don’t have the human behaviours of generosity, resourcefulness, co-creation, action, and gratitude, no technology is going to help your team be happy or collaborate better.”

Be the Change You Seek—Gandhi’s Wisdom for Collaboration

“There’s a great quote by Gandhi: ‘Create the change you want to be.’ That’s the foundation of our collaboration model—being the change and the leader your team is asking you to be.”

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#234 From Hitchhiker to Head-Hunter: Gary Bremermann’s Wild Career Ride — Part Two Mar 15, 2025

So you’re stuck in a job that doesn’t excite you. Or maybe you’re climbing the corporate ladder but have no idea if it’s leaning against the right wall.

Gary Bremermann has seen it all—from ambitious professionals chasing paychecks without purpose to companies struggling to hire the right talent. In Part 2, he lays out his 7 Rules of Career Clarity—a process he developed to help people find meaningful work, instead of just another job.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Step 1: Your Story Matters – “Your past holds clues to your future. Look back to move forward.” Why reflecting on your experiences can reveal what you truly want.

Step 4: Dream Jobs (Yes, Plural) – “One dream job should be unlimited, the other should be realistic. Somewhere in between is your future.” How to define career goals without setting yourself up for disappointment.

Step 7: Action is Everything – “All the career clarity in the world is useless if you don’t act on it.” Why small, consistent steps matter more than waiting for the perfect opportunity.

The Harsh Reality of Japan’s Talent Market – “People are forced to retire at 60, then offered the same job at 40% pay. Meanwhile, companies struggle to find talent. It makes no sense.” Why Japan’s hiring practices are outdated—and how ageism is holding back experienced professionals.

Risk Aversion vs. Career Growth – “The fear of change is stronger here than in most markets. But staying in your comfort zone can cost you more than taking a risk.” Why job seekers and companies alike need to rethink stability.

If you’ve ever felt stuck in your career—or frustrated by job markets that refuse to evolve—this episode is a must-listen. Get ready for a reality check on work, growth, and what’s next.

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#233 From Rainy-Day Idea to $20M: Chris Schrader’s Race for Change – Part Two Mar 15, 2025

Part Two.

A rainy-day idea, a pair of walking shoes, and a determined teenager—what could go wrong? For Chris Schrader, it led to something extraordinary. A simple trek across England turned into a five-figure fundraiser and the start of a global movement. In Part One, the 24 Hour Race founder shares how a tribute to a friend sparked a worldwide fight against human trafficking, raising over $20 million across 25 cities. Turns out, big change starts with small steps.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

From the Wilderness to the Workplace: Business Team Building 401

“Business is a watered-down version of an expedition, and an expedition is a hyperbolic version of business. The success of both depends on understanding team dynamics—bridging the gap between the strongest and weakest players.”

“Your performance isn’t defined by your best players; it’s defined by your weakest. In the expedition world, you have two choices—get rid of your weakest link or rein in your top performers.”

Don’t Be the Adventure Tour Guide—Leadership Takes Tough Calls

“You’re not an adventure tour guide. You’re there to achieve a specific goal, and sometimes that means making tough calls against your team’s individual interests to keep the whole expedition on track.”

Nietzsche, Space Dreams, and Paying the Bills

“Nietzsche teaches us to live life with vitality, to focus on what brings joy in the moment. But, let’s be honest—sometimes that joy includes paying the electricity bill for your sous vide obsession.”

It’s Not All About Musk and Zuckerberg: Real Impact Starts Closer to Home

“The hardest thing isn’t creating global impact like Elon Musk or Mark Zuckerberg—it’s investing in the people around you and making a meaningful difference in their lives.”

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#232 From Rainy-Day Idea to $20M: Chris Schrader’s Race for Change – Part One Mar 15, 2025

Part One.

A rainy-day idea, a pair of walking shoes, and a determined teenager—what could go wrong? For Chris Schrader, it led to something extraordinary. A simple trek across England turned into a five-figure fundraiser and the start of a global movement. In Part One, the 24 Hour Race founder shares how a tribute to a friend sparked a worldwide fight against human trafficking, raising over $20 million across 25 cities. Turns out, big change starts with small steps.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

How a Teenage Charity Event Turned into a Global Phenomenon Fighting Human Trafficking

“On a typically cold, rainy English day, I suggested to my friends, half-serious, ‘Why don’t we walk across England?’… Sure enough, six months later, we found ourselves walking across England.”

“What started as a one-off 24-hour race in 2010 is now the largest student movement fighting slavery in the world, with events in 25 cities and HK$150 million (US$20 million) raised.”

Why Young People Shouldn’t Just Write Checks: Teaching the Fiduciary Side of Charity

“We want students to view themselves as leaders with the fiduciary responsibility of any charity executive—interviewing project stakeholders to see if the money is really being put to good use.”

Charity Is a Marketplace, Not a Moral Obligation

“Our audience doesn’t need to care about human trafficking to join the event. If they come just for the music festival or because it’s a big sleepover, that’s fine. Our job is to win them over positively.”

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#231 From Hitchhiker to Head-Hunter: Gary Bremermann’s Wild Career Ride — Part One Mar 14, 2025

Gary Bremermann’s journey isn’t what you’d call traditional. He didn’t just study, graduate, and land a predictable career—he hitchhiked across North America, dropped out of college (twice!), built a global business, and burned out before finally finding his calling in his mid-30s. Now, as a career coach and recruiter in Japan, he’s helping others navigate their own career paths without the detours and burnout.

In Part 1 of this two-part series, Gary takes us through his unconventional journey—from being an 18-year-old hitchhiker learning life lessons on the road to running a multi-office export business, only to realize financial success wasn’t the key to happiness.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The National Geographic Effect – “I grew up with every issue ever published. That’s how I started dreaming beyond my small town.” How a childhood surrounded by travel magazines planted the seed for a global career.

Dropping Out, Twice – “I quit university, hitchhiked across the U.S. and Canada, and learned more about people than I ever could in a classroom.” Gary’s early lessons on resilience, adaptability, and making unexpected connections.

Building (and Surviving) a Business – “I chased financial success, built an international company, and ended up completely burned out. My business was crushing me.” Why success without purpose isn’t sustainable.

Finding His True Calling – “I hired a coach, and it changed everything. I finally saw a way out.” How coaching saved Gary from burnout—and led him to his real passion: helping others find fulfilling careers.

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#230 Michael Sakraida: Change Your Money Mindset, Change Your Life – Part Two Mar 14, 2025

Michael Sakraida isn’t here to tell you to cut lattes or max out your 401(k)—he’s here to flip the script on wealth and happiness.

In Money, Balance and Joy, he argues that real financial success isn’t just about money—it’s about balancing cash, time, and social wealth. Along the way, he takes jabs at Wall Street, risk tolerance surveys, and what he calls the “Financial Media Smut Club.” If you’re tired of boring money advice, this episode delivers hard truths with a side of humor. Part Two.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Financial Independence: More Than Just a Paycheck—It’s About Legacy

“True financial independence isn’t about working for money; it’s about working for joy. And when you’re gone, it’s the legacy—both financial and non-financial—that really counts.”

When ‘Aggressive’ Turns ‘Anxious’: The Flawed World of Risk Tolerance Tests

“Advisors tick the ‘aggressive’ box, but when the market drops, those same clients can flip out. The problem? Risk tolerance tests don’t dig into the emotional reality behind investing. They aren’t built to handle the emotional rollercoaster of real-life investing.”

Financial Media Smut Club: Why Most Advice Misses the Mark

“Too many financial articles focus on clickbait rather than offering real, actionable insights. The problem? Writers often don’t understand what they’re talking about.”

The Problem with Financial Influencers: Why They Should Be Regulated or Shut Down

“If financial advisors need compliance approval for every email, why do these so-called financial influencers get a free pass to spread advice with zero oversight?”

Financial Advisors: If You’re Not Asking These Three Questions, You’re Doing It Wrong

“Before any numbers come into play, financial advisors should be addressing the emotions tied to wealth: how you got it, what you want to do with it, and your past experiences with Wall Street.”

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Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.

Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligence
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Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.

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>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<

#229 Michael Sakraida: Change Your Money Mindset, Change Your Life – Part One Mar 14, 2025

Michael Sakraida believes wealth isn’t just about your bank account—it’s about how you spend your time and who you spend it with.
In Money, Balance and Joy, he exposes why traditional financial wisdom misses the mark and why the real key to happiness lies in balancing money, time, and relationships. He also dishes out some well-aimed criticism at Wall Street, personal finance “experts,” and the media’s obsession with financial doom and gloom. This episode might just change the way you think about money forever. Part One.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Zen and the Art of Smart Change: Why You Shouldn’t Waste Emotional Energy

“Think of change like triage. Some things are worth saving; others, not so much. It’s about focusing your energy on the changes that actually count.”

The Happiness Equation: Why Money Alone Isn’t Enough

"Money buys happiness when it’s part of a three-part ecosystem—monetary wealth, time wealth, and social joy. Balance the three, and you’ve got the real happiness equation."

Feeling Alone in the Crowd: Why Money Isn’t the Only Problem

“Inflation, Wall Street, and the financial media don’t get it—people feel isolated and misunderstood. It’s not just about cash; it’s about finding control and direction when everything feels chaotic.”

Wall Street’s Blind Spot: The Emotional Toll of Inflation

“While Wall Street and politicians stay comfortable, most people struggle, feeling alone and powerless. The key isn’t just money; it’s reclaiming control in a system that’s stacked against you.”

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#228 John Gates: Sweaty Palms? How to Negotiate Your Salary Without the Panic Mar 14, 2025

If negotiating your salary makes you sweat more than a job interview, you’re not alone.
John Gates, author of ACT YOUR WAGE, knows how to turn those anxiety-fueled conversations into strategic wins. Forget the old-school advice about just “asking for more.” John explains why real salary talks aren’t about throwing out a number, but about controlling the conversation, shifting your mindset, and playing the long game.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Coast-to-Coast Hustle: The Ups and Downs of Chasing the Corporate Dream

“During that process of chasing the Fortune 500 career and climbing that ladder, I moved across the country many times. I was laid off several times. I know how terrifying it is to be laid off or separated from a company that once loved you, but now no longer needs you."

From Prosecutor to Defense Attorney: Why Switching Sides Matters

“I do view myself as a former prosecutor who became a defense attorney. I think the best defense attorneys are people who used to be prosecutors because they understand the tactics and strategy and what the other prosecutor is trying to achieve.”

The Silver Bullet Effect: Practical Steps for Negotiation Success

“I start teaching them how to have safe conversations about pay almost immediately. So, very experimentally, I will teach them and drill them and rehearse with them first.”

Salary Negotiation 101: Gladiators Need Not Apply!

“Know your worth and demand your worth. People say, figure out what you’re worth, insist upon that… When I hear that, what I see is high risk. It’s confrontational. It makes it seem like you’re going to be this gladiator… This sort of ultimatum strategy of ‘take it or leave it’ is problematic.”

6 Rules For Successful Salary Negotiation:

1.Do not put “open” or “negotiable” in the salary requirement field — Always put a number.

2.Reframe your salary number into a range during the phone screen — It’s important to shift into a range rather than sticking to a fixed number.

3.Shift the conversation from salary to total compensation — This includes understanding incentives and bonuses beyond the base salary.

4.Use AI tools like ChatGPT to prepare for interviews — This helps generate potential questions and practice responses.

5.Use interview time to sell yourself instead of satisfying curiosity — Focus on addressing their pain points and demonstrating your value.

6.Avoid moving the goalposts during negotiation — Present everything you want in one batch rather than one at a time to prevent putting your offer at risk.

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#227 Sara Lobkovich: Why Playing Life on Hard Mode Might Be Your Best Advantage – Part Two Mar 13, 2025

Some people color inside the lines. Others—like Sara Lobkovich—ditch the coloring book altogether and make their own rules.

A proud introvert, ADHDer, and change-maker, Sara turned years of navigating life’s twists into two books designed to help others do the same. In Part 1, we’ll hear how she went from feeling like an outsider to building a thriving career by embracing what makes her different. And in Part 2, we’ll break down her books—what’s inside, who they’re for, and why they actually work.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

A Love Letter To Square Pegs Who Don't Fit In

"This book is a love letter to me earlier in my career. I know I'm not alone. I know there are so many other people who are having experiences like I did.

If I had written this earlier in my life, if I had somehow had the capacity to write this earlier in my life, I would have written a book to people who are strategically wired and feel like they don't fit in a world that's really focused on tactics to people who feel like square pegs in their careers, like we're always a square peg trying to fit into a round hole and just don't fit in."

Two Books, One Mission: Simplifying Strategy and Goal Setting

“I realized I had two books: one is the No BS OKRs workbook, and the other is about modernized, human-centered strategic planning.”

The Moment ‘You Are a Strategist’ Became the Book Title I Had to Write

“I knew the title had to be ‘You Are a Strategist.’ I rewrote the book to deliver on that title.”

Empowering Your Inner Strategist: No Matter What Job You Do

“You might be a dishwasher, noticing things in the restaurant—there’s strategy in everything we do.”

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Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligence
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Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.

EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.
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>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<

#226 Sara Lobkovich: Why Playing Life on Hard Mode Might Be Your Best Advantage – Part One Mar 13, 2025

Some people color inside the lines. Others—like Sara Lobkovich—ditch the coloring book altogether and make their own rules.

A proud introvert, ADHDer, and change-maker, Sara turned years of navigating life’s twists into two books designed to help others do the same. In Part 1, we’ll hear how she went from feeling like an outsider to building a thriving career by embracing what makes her different. And in Part 2, we’ll break down her books—what’s inside, who they’re for, and why they actually work.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Milk Activist: Chocolate Milk Equality at Age Nine

“I successfully petitioned the cafeteria ladies for milk equality… so that the bag lunch kids could also have chocolate milk on Friday.”

Job Hopping or Scanning? Redefining a Nonlinear Career

“They called it job hopping, but my career coach reframed it as being a ‘scanner’ with lots of interests. Turns out, I wasn’t hopping, I was just too excited to make things better!”

The Burnout Chronicles: From Always-On-the-Go to Needing a Why

“I was that guy on the plane, always on the go. My dog lived with my parents for way too long. That lifestyle led me to burnout, and I realized I needed to do things differently.”

Curiosity as a Cure: How Staying Curious Helped Me Avoid Feeling Stuck

“Curiosity is an antidote to stuckness and anxiety. Later in my career, I developed the ability to always have a playground in my brain—something to learn.”

Turning a Job Disappointment into an MBA in Enterprise Politics

“Instead of feeling frustrated, I reframed my experience as a mini MBA in navigating large political organizations with resistance to change.”

Strategy Isn’t About Being the Smartest in the Room—It’s About Asking the Right Questions

“Being a strategist is not just being the smartest person in the room. It’s having a toolkit of questions that uncover facts, spark insight, and develop ideas.”
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#225 Love, Logic, and a Reality Check: Waverly Deutsch on Changing for the Better – Part Three Mar 13, 2025

We’re closing out Love and Logic with a powerhouse—Waverly Deutsch, the theater-loving, PhD-earning, startup-coaching dynamo.
A fierce advocate for LGBTQ and women entrepreneurs, Waverly doesn’t just give advice; she gives strategies that work. At WyseHeart Advisory, she’s proving that retirement isn’t about slowing down—it’s about lifting up the next generation with tough love and a little bit of stage presence.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:

A Coach’s Secret Weapon

“The key to trust and transformation in coaching lies in active listening. People often speak in long, winding narratives. The magic is in boiling it down to the core message—a few sentences that make them feel truly understood and heard. By distilling and refining, you don’t just hear—they feel heard, understood, and empowered to act.”

AI Can Polish, But Can’t Replace the Human Spark

“AI can help craft a polished pitch or refine a resume, but it can’t simulate the deep understanding and personal experience that resonate in real-life interactions. The investor meeting? That’s where your own knowledge and authenticity come into play.”

The Dating Analogy for Entrepreneurs

“Pitching to investors is like dating. The 10-minute pitch? That’s the coffee date. The in-depth meeting? That’s the dinner date. The term sheet? That’s the engagement ring. True commitment comes when the contracts are signed and the check is in the bank.”

The Age and Cost Equation

“Older professionals face a harsh reality: companies often trade senior salaries for multiple junior hires. This economic shift means adapting, whether through freelancing, consulting, or pursuing entirely new avenues of work.”

Consulting as the Bridge

“Many transitioning entrepreneurs find opportunities as consultants. Whether it’s an interim CFO role or building sales strategies, the key is to be willing to revisit foundational work while leveraging years of expertise to establish credibility in new ventures.”

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#224 Love, Logic, and a Reality Check: Waverly Deutsch on Changing for the Better – Part Two Mar 12, 2025

If there’s one thing Waverly Deutsch doesn’t do, it’s fluff.

In Part 2 of Love and Logic series, she shares her bold journey from STEM to stage, academia to entrepreneurship, and why she built WyseHeart Advisory to help founders thrive. A champion for LGBTQ and women entrepreneurs, Waverly proves that real mentorship isn’t about hand-holding—it’s about giving the kind of feedback that sticks.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Blending Heart and Head

“Whether it’s calming executives’ cautious approaches or reining in overly ambitious young entrepreneurs, success lies in balancing heart (vision) with head (practicality). It’s about building a compelling story that resonates with both emotions and logic.”

Executives: Breaking the Incremental Mold

“Executives often pitch ideas that feel safe but lack innovation. They’re so aware of corporate barriers that their creativity gets stifled. My role? Push them to think beyond incremental improvements and aim for groundbreaking changes that truly stand out.”

“Executives often present highly calculated plans—‘$5 million investment for $7 million returns.’ While safe, it doesn’t excite investors. Encouraging them to aim higher, to envision $50 million, injects the passion and ambition their pitches often lack.”

Unleashing Undergraduate Imagination

“Undergraduates are brimming with ideas because they haven’t yet encountered the roadblocks of the corporate world. The challenge is teaching them the process—how to take their boundless creativity and add logic, research, and structure to turn dreams into sustainable ventures.”

Overzealous Optimism Meets Reality

“On the flip side, young entrepreneurs brim with optimism, promising billion-dollar outcomes for modest investments. The challenge? Bringing logic into their bold dreams—helping them see the steps, resources, and realistic pathways to scale.”

The Power of Experimentation

“Sometimes, all it takes is encouraging an entrepreneur to think bigger—just as an exercise. That simple shift in perspective can unlock enormous potential, as it did with Simple Mills, now a model for blending passion and pragmatism to scale innovation.”

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Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligence
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Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.

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>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<

#223 Love, Logic, and a Reality Check: Waverly Deutsch on Changing for the Better – Part One Mar 11, 2025

Welcome to Part 1 of “Love and Logic,” where Waverly Deutsch shows us how balancing passion and reason leads to real impact. Today, we explore her journey—how she carved her path and why she’s committed to helping others find theirs. In later episodes, we’ll cover her work at Chicago Booth and WyseHeart Advisory, where she dishes out “tough love for entrepreneurs.”

Waverly is famous for her blunt yet brilliant coaching style—think “Simon Cowell of Chicago Booth,” but with actual solutions. She’ll tell you your business pitch makes no sense, then hand you a roadmap to make it airtight. If you’re looking for sugarcoating, look elsewhere. If you want to grow, listen in.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

A Love for Theater and Logic

“I fell in love with theater and acting as a child. My mother and I would go to the theater together—it was a special time for us. At the same time, I was good at math and logic puzzles. I ended up with two majors, one in theater and one in computer science. They were separate disciplines, but in my mind, I was always bringing them together.”

The Gut-Driven Leap

“At 29, with a fresh PhD, analysis didn’t guide my career move. Joining Forrester was pure gut instinct. I saw it as a chance to dive back into technology, learn from brilliant people, and expand my horizons—no spreadsheets, no market evaluations, just a leap of faith.”

Academia or Impact? The Career Crossroads

“Graduating with a PhD in theater history during a recession, teaching jobs were scarce. Colleges were cutting back on theater programs, and the research focus in humanities felt too esoteric. I wanted to do something more contemporary, more impactful.”

Burnout and Breakthroughs

“After nearly eight years at Forrester, experiencing explosive growth, an IPO, and 60-hour weeks, I needed a reset. By 1999, I was ready for a new direction and decided to approach my next move more strategically.”

Empathy for Everyone

“Emotions aren’t just a ‘women’s thing.’ I’ve sat with many men who’ve cried during challenging discussions. The key is understanding that emotions are human, not a weakness, and they have a place in even the most logic-driven conversations.”

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Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligence
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Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.

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>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<

#222 Inheritance? No Thanks. Chris Quek’s Boldest Bet Yet – Part 2 Mar 09, 2025

Christopher Quek wasn’t built to follow the family script. In this two-part series, we explore how he walked away from the comforts of a well-established family business in Singapore to chase entrepreneurship in Malaysia—much to his father’s dismay. After returning home, he doubled down on his independence by selling his inheritance to launch TRIVE, a venture capital firm built on his own vision.
Last episode looked into his quest for self-identity—the reasons behind his bold moves and how he made them a reality. This time, we’ll discuss his current work as a VC investor, his ambitions for the entrepreneurial landscape in Southeast Asia, and his thoughts on legacy and family at this stage in his life.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Kicking off with a big question: Is Singapore still relevant after 50 years? Here's an entrepreneurial view

"In 2015, when Singapore celebrated its 50th birthday as a nation. Singapore evolved itself out of necessity where it built a whole nation, a workforce of engineers, scientists, bankers, lawyers, doctors, specialists. We started losing a whole generation of entrepreneurs."

Bridging the Generation Gap: How to Turn ‘Parents’ Old Ways’ into a Future-Proof Family Business

"I actually have a network of over 300 family business owners across Southeast Asia. And there's always this common themes that starts first. Number one, how do I talk to my parents? How do I have a good working relationship with my parents and a family relationship back at home? Number two, I don't like the way that my parents are doing things and I need to transform this business. How do I convince my parents that I can transform this business as well?"

Turning Spare Millions into Family Business Magic: The Synergy Cycle of Tech, Money and Southeast Asian Economy

"Everyone gets to have food on the table. What we didn't realize that what this family business did was that it took that technology, have more food, more quantity, and decided to sell it cheaper to a poorer province, where those villagers were now able to obtain more quantity of food for their families."

Breaking the Patriarchal Mold: How Self-Development Earned Me My Father’s Respect

"My father has been an Asian patriarch with an iron fist. He now talks to me about the side businesses that he's doing. He asks me as his advisor and no longer sees the son on whom he used to look down."

Still Figuring It Out: The Never-Ending Saga of Self-Discovery

"I still believe that I'm evolving. I'm still learning more in terms of understanding my identity."

Fatherhood and Fortune: What’s the Game Plan for Your Next Generation, Chris?

"Anybody who wants to help the next generation is to be a mentor of values rather than a mentor of processes."

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#221 Inheritance? No Thanks. Chris Quek’s Boldest Bet Yet – Part 1 Mar 08, 2025

Christopher Quek wasn’t built to follow the family script. In this two-part series, we explore how he walked away from the comforts of a well-established family business in Singapore to chase entrepreneurship in Malaysia—much to his father’s dismay. After returning home, he doubled down on his independence by selling his inheritance to launch TRIVE, a venture capital firm built on his own vision. In this episode, we dive into his boldest moves, his pursuit of self-identity, and what it really takes to break free from expectations.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Father’s Furious Expectations: When a Third-Gen Heir Sneaks Out of the Family Business

"I couldn't stand all the pollution that the manufacturing plant was producing. And finally, after three days, I sneaked back to Singapore and my father saw me. He got angry. He shouted at me."

Family Education 101: Learning P&L Over Dinner with Dad, Where Burgers Come with a Side of Calculating Profits

"He would take me out to restaurants. And he forced me to start calculating out the revenues. He will start telling me like, what do you think is the expenses behind this? And I had to start learning a profit and loss statement just by that very visible conversation itself."

Beyond the Textbook: How Mentorship Shaped Chris' Evolution

"I'm a product of my mentors in my life. So I'm the number two and number three mentors were also very successful businessmen."

Owning My Identity: Mr. Quek or Just Mr. Quek’s Son?

"There was already a trigger point in my value system that was I going to continue as a the next generation of business owners to continue polluting, just to make money for the sake of money."

Finding My Way: From Circumstances to Self-Fulfilment

"It was more of circumstances and situations and opportunities that just appeared. If you ask me like some certain crossroads in my life, for example, heading off to Malaysia instead of China I felt that was the right thing to do."

The Adventure of Self-Discovery: Uncovering Hidden Layers of Yourself at Every Stage

"Give you a little bit of the element of what at every stage is about really discovering yourself, which is really an exciting journey. You don't realize that you have actually a lot of things about yourself that you haven't discovered. "
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>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<&l

#220 Sihame El Kaouakibi: How to Fail Spectacularly—Then Win Even Bigger – Part Two Mar 08, 2025

Part Two.

From politics to entrepreneurship, Sihame El Kaouakibi has faced—and conquered—some serious challenges. Burnout? Check. Bankruptcy? Been there. A political storm? Handled. But instead of breaking under pressure, she calls herself “anti-fragile,” using adversity as fuel for reinvention. In Part One, we explore how she built herself back up as a leadership coach, diversity advocate, and creator of Women Leaders OS. And this is just the beginning.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Burnt Out, Bankrupt, and Back in Business

“I went from being burnt out, confused, overwhelmed, and even bankrupt to now being in the best shape of my life—physically, mentally, and professionally.”

Validation Detox: Kicking the Need for External Approval

“Without success, without my work, without external validation and recognition, I felt like nothing. I felt nobody.”

Politics 101: When Ego Meets Reality

“I made an ego-driven decision, and it was a messiah complex, believing I had everything—like potential and talents to drive change.”

“I wasn’t aligned with my values and beliefs anymore. So my lesson is if you feel you have to give up on your principles, quit.”

Thriving vs. Surviving: Why “You’re Not Stuck, You’re Just in the Wrong Pot” Applies to Your Career

“The most liberating decision can be to move on and find your tribe, find your environment where you can thrive.”

“Sometimes it’s better to accept the rejection than feeling stuck. Rejection can be redirection, and it’s sometimes better to just leave.”

Operating System for Women Leaders: How to Handle Life’s Curveballs Without Crashing

“My mission is to help 1 million women turn life challenges into life changes for the better. These women want to break through in their careers, but they want to do it without the burnouts.”

“Women still lack internal beliefs and also support systems. So it starts really with women deciding that they are worthy and willing to change.”

Success Isn’t Always Instagram-Pretty: The Ugly Side of the Hustle

“There’s so much about glamorized success, but there is always another side. People you envy might be in deep pain, even if they are millionaires or have social status.”

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