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    Carry the Two

    Carry the Two pulls back the curtain to reveal the mathematical and statistical gears that turn the world. We’re the show for people who enjoy discovering hidden elements that impact our lives in the most unexpected ways, and math is certainly one of those!

    We are a curiosity-driven podcast that looks to find unique perspectives from the fields of mathematics and statistics.

    We use stories to convey how mathematical research drives the world around us, with each episode tackling a different topic. This can be anything from modeling how bees in a swarm make group decisions to how we can use textual analysis to reveal surprising changes in policy documents.

    You can also find Carry the Two on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher, Google Play, and Spotify.

    Carry the Two is hosted by Sadie Witkowski and Ian Martin. Audio production by Tyler Damme. Music is from Blue Dot Sessions.

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    Tara Kerin on The Last of Us Aug 08, 2023
    Show notes

    Could a fungus really wipe out the majority of humans, as shown in the HBO (Max) series The Last of Us? How realistic is the show’s portrayal of epidemiology? Guest and project scientist at UCLA, Tara Kerin explores these questions and how statistics are a core tool in her field of research.

    Find our transcript here: LINK

    Curious to learn more? Check out these additional links:

    The San Diego Comic Con International masquerade ball: https://www.comic-con.org/cci/newsletter/sunday

    How to calculate R0 (R-naught): https://globalhealth.harvard.edu/understanding-predictions-what-is-r-naught/

    Tara’s work on HIV: https://cch.ucla.edu/about-atn-cares/

    More on R0: https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/25/1/17-1901_article

    More on the science in The Last of Us: https://www.npr.org/2023/02/17/1157842018/the-science-that-spawned-fungal-fears-in-hbos-the-last-of-us

    Entertainment Community Fund: https://entertainmentcommunity.org/

    Science and Entertainment Exchange: http://scienceandentertainmentexchange.org/

    Follow more of IMSI’s work: www.IMSI.institute, (twitter) @IMSI_institute, (mastodon) https://sciencemastodon.com/@IMSI, (instagram) IMSI.institute

    Follow Tara Kerin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tarakerin/, @tarakerin

    This episode was audio engineered by Tyler Damme.

    Music by Blue Dot Sessions.

    The Institute for Mathematical and Statistical Innovation (IMSI) is funded by NSF grant DMS-1929348.


    Robert Rosner and Paul Wilson on Oppenheimer Jul 25, 2023
    Show notes

    The world, and the US in particular, have a complicated history with nuclear fission. Splitting atoms led to both the development of nuclear energy and weapons with catastrophic power. In the film Oppenheimer, director Christopher Nolan explores these issues.

    Here we expand this examination to the seminal work done in the Midwest. In this episode of Carry the Two, we speak with nuclear engineer from the University of Wisconsin, Paul Wilson, and University of Chicago physicist, Robert Rosner. They unveil how the University of Chicago was a key research site that tested theories of Oppenheimer and his colleagues, allowing the United States to win the race in building a nuclear weapon.

    Find our transcript here: LINK

    Curious to learn more? Check out these additional links:

    The first nuclear reactor, explained: https://news.uchicago.edu/explainer/first-nuclear-reactor-explained

    American Prometheus (novel that Oppenheimer is based on): https://www.pulitzer.org/winners/kai-bird-and-martin-j-sherwin

    Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists: https://thebulletin.org/doomsday-clock/current-time/

    Nuclear energy and cutting carbon emissions: https://www.wpr.org/nuclear-key-key-cutting-carbon-emissions-combat-climate-change

    Rosner elected president of American Physical Society: https://chicagomaroon.com/28020/news/theoretical-physicist-robert-rosner-elected-presid/

    Follow more of IMSI’s work: www.IMSI.institute, (twitter) @IMSI_institute, (mastodon) https://sciencemastodon.com/@IMSI, (instagram) IMSI.institute

    Follow Robert Rosner: https://astro.uchicago.edu/people/robert-rosner.php

    Follow Paul Wilson: https://directory.engr.wisc.edu/neep/faculty/wilson_paul

    The Science and Entertainment Exchange: scienceandentertainmentexchange.org

    This episode was audio engineered by Tyler Damme.

    Music by Blue Dot Sessions.

    The Institute for Mathematical and Statistical Innovation (IMSI) is funded by NSF grant DMS-1929348.


    Kevin Grazier on Orbital Dynamics in Foundation Jul 11, 2023
    Show notes

    If you’ve seen the first season of Apple TV’s Foundation, you probably noticed how heavily the show relies on ideas based in mathematics and statistics. However, while the idea of a field of research called psycho-history seems far-fetched, some of the show's scenes are much closer to reality than you might realize.

    In this episode, we hear from planetary physicist and television science advisor Kevin Grazier about how researchers can help advise TV projects and what that actually looks like.

    Find our transcript here: LINK

    Curious to learn more? Check out these additional links:

    Foundation novels by Isaac Asimov: https://www.goodreads.com/series/43939-foundation-chronological-order

    Foundation (tv series) season 1 promo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4QYV5GTz7c

    The Cassini mission: https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/missions/cassini/overview/

    Orbital dynamics: https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-4939-0802-8_10

    Science and Entertainment Exchange: http://scienceandentertainmentexchange.org/

    Follow more of IMSI’s work: www.IMSI.institute, (twitter) @IMSI_institute, (mastodon) https://sciencemastodon.com/@IMSI, (instagram) IMSI.institute

    Follow Kevin Grazier: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-grazier-1057792/

    This episode was audio engineered by Tyler Damme.

    Music by Blue Dot Sessions.

    The Institute for Mathematical and Statistical Innovation (IMSI) is funded by NSF grant DMS-1929348.


    Summer Hiatus Jun 27, 2023
    Show notes

    We're taking a short break to prepare for our next series of episodes, looking at mathematics and statistics in Hollywood. So stay tuned!

    Find our transcript here: LINK

    Follow more of IMSI’s work: www.IMSI.institute, (twitter) @IMSI_institute, (instagram) IMSI.institute

    Music by Blue Dot Sessions.

    The Institute for Mathematical and Statistical Innovation (IMSI) is funded by NSF grant DMS-1929348.


    Dan Cooley on the Colorado Fire Season Jun 13, 2023
    Show notes

    Predicting weather is already a difficult statistical challenge, but it becomes even more complex when trying to predict rare weather events. Dan Cooley, a professor in the statistics department at Colorado State University, uses extreme value analysis to model these rare events. In today’s episode, we ask Dan how his work can help explain the changing frequency and severity of wildfires in Colorado and how climate change might be playing a key role.

    Don’t forget to listen to Dan’s work through a geophysical lens, over at Third Pod from the Sun!

    Check out the episode here: LINK

    Find our transcript here: LINK

    Curious to learn more? Check out these additional links:

    Hear Dan’s talk for IMSI’s Confronting Global Climate Change: https://www.imsi.institute/videos/transformed-linear-methods-for-multivariate-extremes-and-application-to-climate/

    More on the Fire Weather Index: https://www.nwcg.gov/publications/pms437/cffdrs/fire-weather-index-system

    Extreme Value Theory: https://towardsdatascience.com/extreme-value-theory-in-a-nutshell-with-various-applications-3260b6a84316

    Previous Carry the Two episode on 100-year floods: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/richard-smith-on-100-year-floods/id1629115184?i=1000574780329

    Follow more of IMSI’s work: www.IMSI.institute, (twitter) @IMSI_institute, (mastodon) https://sciencemastodon.com/@IMSI, (instagram) IMSI.institute

    Follow Dan Cooley: https://www.stat.colostate.edu/~cooleyd/

    This episode was audio engineered by Tyler Damme. Special thanks to Third Pod’s producer Jace Steiner.

    Music by Blue Dot Sessions.

    The Institute for Mathematical and Statistical Innovation (IMSI) is funded by NSF grant DMS-1929348.


    Angel Hsu on Urbanization and Climate Change Jun 06, 2023
    Show notes

    Researchers become interested in their fields through all sorts of unique paths. Today’s guest, Angel Hsu of University of North Carolina Chapel Hill, came to climate research from a public policy background. She uses her work to help inform local communities how policy decisions affect different groups’ risk to extreme heat and the heat island effect. Specifically, she uses local and global data sets to track heat stress across city neighborhoods and show how those can differ based on neighborhood income.

    Don’t forget to listen to Angel’s work through a geophysical lens, over at Third Pod from the Sun!

    Check out the AGU’s Third Pod from the Sun with Angel: LINK

    Find our transcript here: LINK

    Curious to learn more? Check out these additional links:

    Hear Angel’s talk for IMSI’s Confronting Global Climate Change: https://www.imsi.institute/videos/detecting-and-attributing-disparities-in-urban-heat/

    Data Driver Lab website: http://datadrivenlab.org/urban/

    Carry the Two’s previous episode on Angel’s work: https://www.imsi.institute/podcast/tiffany-christian-on-the-heat-island-effect/

    Carry the Two’s previous episode on community science: https://www.imsi.institute/podcast/kathryn-leonard-and-axel-carlier-on-crowdsourcing-for-math-research/

    Follow more of IMSI’s work: www.IMSI.institute, (twitter) @IMSI_institute, (mastodon) https://sciencemastodon.com/@IMSI, (instagram) IMSI.institute

    Follow Angel Hsu: @ecoangelhsu, https://publicpolicy.unc.edu/person/hsu-angel/

    This episode was audio engineered by Tyler Damme. Special thanks to Third Pod’s producer Jace Steiner.

    Music by Blue Dot Sessions.

    The Institute for Mathematical and Statistical Innovation (IMSI) is funded by NSF grant DMS-1929348.


    Matt Huber on Modeling Paleoclimates May 30, 2023
    Show notes

    Today we speak with a non-mathematician who uses mathematical tools to understand our planet’s past climates and what they might be able to tell us about our future. Matt Huber, from Purdue University, tells us how the paleoclimate had sudden, rapid shifts in the climate that our current climate models aren’t good at predicting. So, if we’re on the precipice of another rapid shift, we might need to start employing different models.

    And don’t forget to listen to Matt’s work through a geophysical lens, over at Third Pod from the Sun!

    Check out the AGU’s Third Pod from the Sun with Matt: LINK

    Find our transcript here: LINK

    Curious to learn more? Check out these additional links:

    Hear Matt’s talk for IMSI’s Confronting Global Climate Change: https://www.imsi.institute/videos/the-dynamics-and-impacts-of-moist-heat-stress/

    Younger Dryas event in Day After Tomorrow: https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/02/25/metro/researchers-say-ancient-day-after-tomorrow-scenario-could-have-been-caused-by-melting-icebergs/

    What is paleoclimatology: https://education.nationalgeographic.org/resource/paleoclimatology-RL/

    Follow more of IMSI’s work: www.IMSI.institute, (twitter) @IMSI_institute, (mastodon) https://sciencemastodon.com/@IMSI, (instagram) IMSI.institute

    Follow Matt Huber: https://www.eaps.purdue.edu/people/profile/huberm.html

    This episode was audio engineered by Tyler Damme. Special thanks to Third Pod’s producer Jessica Buser.

    Music by Blue Dot Sessions.

    The Institute for Mathematical and Statistical Innovation (IMSI) is funded by NSF grant DMS-1929348.


    Kristie Ebi on Climate Change & Global Health May 23, 2023
    Show notes

    Turn on the news during the spring and you’ll hear how seasonal allergies are being made worse by climate change. But it turns out the seasonal sniffles are some of the smallest health consequences of our rapidly shifting climate. Droughts and floods don’t just damage the local ecosystem, they also have real, measurable effects on human health. In this episode of Carry the Two, we hear from University of Washington’s Kristie Ebi, who has helped lead research on the health impacts of climate change.

    And don’t forget to listen to Kristie’s work through a geophysical lens, over at Third Pod from the Sun!

    Check out the AGU’s Third Pod from the Sun with Kristie: LINK HERE

    Find our transcript here: LINK

    Curious to learn more? Check out these additional links:

    Kristie’s presentation at IMSI’s Confronting Global Climate Change: https://www.imsi.institute/videos/detection-and-attribution-of-the-health-impacts-of-climate-change/

    Climate change and allergies: https://abc7chicago.com/pollen-allergies-spring-allergy-climate-central-report/12931026/

    Center for Health and the Global Environment: https://www.washington.edu/research/research-centers/center-health-global-environment-change/

    Kristie’s shared Nobel Peace Prize: https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/2007/summary/

    Follow more of IMSI’s work: www.IMSI.institute, (twitter) @IMSI_institute, (mastodon) https://sciencemastodon.com/@IMSI, (instagram) IMSI.institute

    Follow Kristie Ebi: @kristie_ebi, https://globalhealth.washington.edu/faculty/kristie-ebi

    This episode was audio engineered by Tyler Damme. Special thanks to Third Pod’s producer Katrina Jackson.

    Music by Blue Dot Sessions.

    Turn on the news during the spring and you’ll hear how seasonal allergies are being made worse by climate change. But it turns out the seasonal sniffles are some of the smallest health consequences of our rapidly shifting climate. Droughts and floods don’t just damage the local ecosystem, they also have real, measurable effects on human health. In this episode of Carry the Two, we hear from University of Washington’s Kristie Ebi, who has helped lead research on the health impacts of climate change.

    And don’t forget to listen to Kristie’s work through a geophysical lens, over at Third Pod from the Sun!

    Check out the AGU’s Third Pod from the Sun with Kristie: LINK

    Find our transcript here: LINK

    Curious to learn more? Check out these additional links:

    Kristie’s presentation at IMSI’s Confronting Global Climate Change: https://www.imsi.institute/videos/detection-and-attribution-of-the-health-impacts-of-climate-change/

    Climate change and allergies: https://abc7chicago.com/pollen-allergies-spring-allergy-climate-central-report/12931026/

    Center for Health and the Global Environment: https://www.washington.edu/research/research-centers/center-health-global-environment-change/

    Kristie’s shared Nobel Peace Prize: https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/2007/summary/

    Follow more of IMSI’s work: www.IMSI.institute, (twitter) @IMSI_institute, (mastodon) https://sciencemastodon.com/@IMSI, (instagram) IMSI.institute

    Follow Kristie Ebi: @kristie_ebi, https://globalhealth.washington.edu/faculty/kristie-ebi

    This episode was audio engineered by Tyler Damme. Special thanks to Third Pod’s producer Katrina Jackson.

    Music by Blue Dot Sessions.

    The Institute for Mathematical and Statistical Innovation (IMSI) is funded by NSF grant DMS-1929348.

    The Institute for Mathematical and Statistical Innovation (IMSI) is funded by NSF grant DMS-1929348.


    Jane Baldwin on Modeling Climate Change Hazards May 16, 2023
    Show notes

    We are continuing our collaboration between Carry the Two and the American Geophysical Union’s Third Pod from the Sun with another episode!

    Jane Baldwin’s research centers issues of equity when it comes to understanding climate change’s impact on the global population. In this episode, we hear how Jane gets clever with data sources to better understand risk and vulnerability to tropical cyclones in the Philippines and discusses the importance of building useful climate models.

    And don’t forget to listen to Jane’s work through a geophysical lens, over at Third Pod from the Sun!

    Check out the AGU’s Third Pod from the Sun with Jane: https://thirdpodfromthesun.com/2023/05/12/solving-for-climate-do-go-chasing-hurricanes/

    Find our transcript here: LINK

    Curious to learn more? Check out these additional links:

    Jane’s presentation at IMSI’s Confronting Global Climate Change: https://www.imsi.institute/videos/the-missing-links-in-projecting-impacts-from-extreme-events/

    Jane’s Philippine’s study: https://www.janebaldw.in/publication/baldwin-direct-2019/ & https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/wcas/aop/WCAS-D-22-0049.1/WCAS-D-22-0049.1.xml

    The origin of “All models are wrong…”: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_models_are_wrong

    Follow more of IMSI’s work: www.IMSI.institute, (twitter) @IMSI_institute, (mastodon) https://sciencemastodon.com/@IMSI, (instagram) IMSI.institute

    Follow Jane Baldwin: https://www.janebaldw.in/, @janewbaldwin

    This episode was audio engineered by Tyler Damme. Special thanks to Third Pod’s producer Devin Reese.

    Music by Blue Dot Sessions.

    The Institute for Mathematical and Statistical Innovation (IMSI) is funded by NSF grant DMS-1929348.


    Maike Sonnewald on Modeling Oceanic Currents May 09, 2023
    Show notes

    Welcome to the first episode of Carry the Two’s collaboration with the American Geophysical Union’s Third Pod from the Sun!

    In this episode, we get our feet wet with physical oceanographer, Maike Sonnewald. Maike explains how the ocean currents interplay with our warming atmosphere and what that means for our climate. Using machine learning to build climate models, Maike analyzes how things like greenhouse gases are warming our oceans and changing the pattern of currents.

    And don’t forget to listen to Maike’s work through a geophysical lens, over at Third Pod from the Sun!

    Check out the AGU’s Third Pod from the Sun with Maike: https://thirdpodfromthesun.com/2023/05/05/wave-and-means/

    Find our transcript here: LINK

    Curious to learn more? Check out these additional links:

    Hear Maike’s talk for IMSI’s Confronting Global Climate Change: https://www.imsi.institute/videos/elucidating-ecological-complexity-unsupervised-learning-determines-global-marine-eco-provinces/

    Upcoming paper from Maike: The Southern Ocean supergyre: a unifying dynamical framework identified by machine learning. In press, Nature Communications Earth & Environment.

    A review paper on ML in oceanography: Bridging theory, simulation, and observations of the global ocean using Machine Learning, 2021, Environmental Research Letters

    Paper on the North Atlantic: Revealing the impact of global warming on climate modes using transparent machine learning. 2021, Journal of Advances in Modeling Earth Systems

    For a math and AI twist on predicting ocean dynamics: Explainable Artificial Intelligence for Bayesian Neural Networks: Towards trustworthy predictions of ocean dynamics. 2022, Journal of Advances in Modeling Earth Systems.

    Follow more of IMSI’s work: www.IMSI.institute, (twitter) @IMSI_institute, (mastodon) https://sciencemastodon.com/@IMSI, (instagram) IMSI.institute

    Follow Maike Sonnewald: https://msonnewald.com/

    This episode was audio engineered by Tyler Damme. Special thanks to Third Pod’s producer Anupama Chandrasekaran.

    Music by Blue Dot Sessions.

    The Institute for Mathematical and Statistical Innovation (IMSI) is funded by NSF grant DMS-1929348.


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