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2016-042-Audio from Source Seattle 2016 Conference Oct 24, 2016

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Join us for a special episode this week! I (Bryan) was able to attend my first Source Seattle convention. Two days of talks, technical and non-technical, combining red/blue team concepts, as well as professional development, to help you navigate the corporate waters easier. I was able to interview a number of people from the conference. You can see a partial list of them here: http://www.sourceconference.com/single-post/2016/09/30/SOURCE-Seattle-Highlights Interviewed Chip McSweeney from OpenDNS (@chipmcmalware) and Rob Cheyne about the conference and got a bit of information about Chip's talk on "Domain Generating Algorithms" (DGA) that #malware use for domain C&C, and how to detect and reverse certain algos. Rob Cheyne is the organizer of Source, so we talked a bit about the history and difficulties putting on 3 of these a year, and what makes the "Source" conference format so different. Masha Sedova was one of the keynote speakersto discuss how she gamified her information security program and got everyone involved. Really excellent talk about changing organizational behavior. Rob Fuller gave two days of Metasploit training, to show the versatility and to teach about the effectiveness of this tool. I also ask if Metasploit has reached it's end, since it's easily detected in many environments. Rob is a great interview and gives me his unvarnished opinion. Mike Shema from https://cobalt.io/ discussed expanding and tailoring your bug bounty program to suit your organization and to ensure that your bug bounty program is mature. Using private bug bounties, and ensuring proper follow through in a timely manner can ensure maximum bang for the buck. Last but not least, Deidre Diamond who did a keynote about 'Words to Stop Using now'. Deidre is the CEO of a national cyber security staffing company (Cyber Security Network) and Founder of a not-for-profit that empowers women in the infosec industry. Hear her thoughts on how leadership training is needed in the corporate environment, I ask her why we still need recruiters with hiring sites and why job descriptions are still a thorn in everyone's sides.

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2016-041- Ben Johnson, company culture shifts, job descriptions, cyber self-esteem Oct 17, 2016

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Ben Johnson has been around the industry for a good while, and has seen a lot of ugly things in our industry.

Ben had written a recent blog post (https://www.carbonblack.com/2016/08/12/benvlog-3-negative-forces-driving-security/) detailing the issues that seem to plague many companies and many people in the infosec community.

We talked about these issues in depth, and how companies and even the employees in a company can ease some of their burdens, and how they can make some changes to make your company culture better.

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2016-040: Gene_Kim, Josh_Corman, helping DevOps and Infosec to play nice Oct 10, 2016

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If you work in a #DevOps environment, you're on one side of the fence... you're either with the devs, you have freedom to make changes, and everything is great.

If you're on the Security and/or Compliance side, it's a desolate wasteland of watching people play fast and loose with policies, no one documenting anything, and you're seen as a 'barrier' to getting the new hotness out.

But does it have to be that way? This week, we sat down with DevOps veterans Gene Kim and Josh Corman to discuss how we can make security, compliance, and DevOps to play nice with one another.

Gene Kim's new book (excerpt): http://itrevolution.com/handbook-excerpt

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2016-039-Robert Hurlbut, Threat Modeling and Helping Devs Understand Vulnerabilities Oct 04, 2016

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Join us this week as Robert Hurlbut (@roberthurlbut on Twitter), is an independent consultant with over 25 years of application experience, helps us understand best methods to getting developers on the same level as security professionals with application security flaws.

We also discuss some of the soft skills involved in bringing new concepts to organizations, like teaching proper coding conventions, changing up the development lifecycle, and helping to improve the skills of developers and managers.

Robert's Website is chock full of good information about threat modeling and secure coding practices at http://www.roberthurlbut.com

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2016-038-Derbycon Audio and 2nd Annual Podcast with Podcasters! Sep 28, 2016

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Mr. Brian Boettcher and I had a great time at DerbyCon. We met so many people and it really was excellent meeting all the fans who came up and said "Hello" or that they really enjoyed the #podcast. It is truly a labor of love and something that we hope everyone can learn something from.

We got some audio while at lunch at #Gordon #Biersch talking about log monitoring inspired by @dualcore's talk on #Anti-Forensics talk (http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=videos/derbycon6/310-anti-forensics-af-int0x80-of-dual-core) and how to evade log monitoring with Mr. Brian Boettcher and Michael Gough. (shout-out to @mattifestation, @dualcore, @baywolf88, @carlos_perez)

We sat down with Mr. Osman (@surkatty) from the Sound Security Podcast (@SoundSec), who was a first time attendee to #DerbyCon. We get his thoughts about DerbyCon and what talks he enjoyed.

Finally, our 2nd Annual podcast with our fellow podcasters was on. We had it in Bill Gardner's room (ReBoot-It podcast) (@oncee), Amanda Berlin (@infosystir) from #Hurricane #Labs Podcast, Jerry Bell (@MaliciousLink) from #Defensive #Security Podcast, Ben Heise (@benheise) from Rally #Security Podcast, Tim DeBlock (@TimothyDeBlock) from Exploring Information Security Podcast, and SciaticNerd (@sciaticnerd) from Security Endeavors podcast

IronGeek's website has all the videos available to listen to here: http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=videos/derbycon6/mainlist

Whiskey Bent Valley Boys: http://whiskeybentvalley.tumblr.com/ or iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/whiskey-bent-valley-boys/id318874442

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2016-037: B1ack0wl, Responsible Disclosure, and embedded device security Sep 14, 2016

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Have you ever found a #vulnerability and wondered if it was worth the time and effort to reach back to the company in question to get the fix in?

This week, we have a story with Mr. "B1ack0wl" who found a vulnerability with certain #Belkin #embedded network devices for end users... We also find out how B1ack0wl learned his stock and trade.

https://www.exploit-db.com/exploits/40332/

Find out how he discovered it, and what steps he took to disclose the steps, and what ended up happening to the finding.

http://www.devttys0.com/ -- #embedded device hacking blog

http://io.netgarage.org/ -- #wargame site #B1ack0wl mentioned

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2016-036: MSSP pitfalls, with Nick Selby and Kevin Johnson Sep 11, 2016

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Nick Selby (@nselby on Twitter) is an independent consultant who works a wide variety of jobs. During a recent engagement, he ran into an interesting issue after a company called him in to handle an incident response. It's not the client, it was with the Managed Security Service Provider (#MSSP). His blog post about the incident made big news on Twitter and elsewhere.

Nick's Blog Post: https://nselby.github.io/When-Security-Monitoring-Provides-Neither-Security-Nor-Monitoring/

So, we wanted to have Nick on to discuss any updates that occurred, and also asked an MSSP owner, Kevin Johnson, from SecureIdeas (@secureideas on Twitter), as Kevin is well versed with both sides, being a customer, and running an MSSP with his product, Scout (https://secureideas.com/scout/index.php)

We go over what an MSSP is (or what each person believes an MSSP is), we discuss the facts from Nick and his client's side, we try and put ourselves in the shoes of the MSSP, and if they handled the issue properly.

We also find out how Nick managed to save the day, the tools they used to solve the problem. We did a whole podcast on it, and maybe it's time to re-visit that...

Finally, we discuss the relationship between an MSSP and the customer, what expectations each party should see from each other, and what are the real questions each should ask one another when you're searching out an MSSP.

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2016-035-Paul Coggin discusses the future with Software Defined Networking Sep 06, 2016

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Paul Coggin is my SME when I need to know about anything network #security related. And this time, we wanted to have him on our show to discuss Software Defined Networking (#SDN)

Software defined networking allows for applications to make connections, manage devices and even control the network using #APIs. It in effect allows any developer become a network engineer. Obviously this could be a recipe for disaster if the dev is not fully understanding of the rammifiications.

And there's more good news (if you're a black hat), there's no role based security, parts of the #specification isn't fully fleshed out yet, and there are vendor specific frameworks of their own, that may not be fully interoperable with each other...

Paul talks to us about some background of #SDN, some of the pitfalls and what you need to think about when implementing Software Defined Networking.

Links referred to in the Show:

https://www.rsaconference.com/writable/presentations/file_upload/tech-r03-sdn-security-v3.pdf

https://www.blackhat.com/docs/eu-14/materials/eu-14-Pickett-Abusing-Software-Defined-Networks-wp.pdf

http://onosproject.org/2015/04/03/sdn-and-security-david-jorm/

https://people.eecs.berkeley.edu/~rishabhp/publications/Sphinx.pdf

https://www.opendaylight.org/

https://www.opennetworking.org/certification

Ras Pi as an OpenFlow controller: https://faucet-sdn.blogspot.com/2016/06/raucet-raspberry-pi-faucet-controlling.html

Zodiac FX SDN boards (Excellent customer service!): http://northboundnetworks.com/

Excellent site discussing SDN: http://www.ipspace.net/Main_Page

Coursera SDN course: https://www.coursera.org/learn/sdn

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2016-034: Sean Malone from FusionX explains the Expanded Cyber Kill Chain Aug 28, 2016

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Another great #rejectedTalk we found was from Sean Malone (@seantmalone on Twitter). The Cyber Kill Chain is a method by which we explain the methodolgy of hackers and the process of hacking.

In this discussion, we find Sean has expanded the #killchain, to be more selective, and to show the decision tree once you've gained access to hosts.

This expanded #killChain is also effective for understanding when #hackers are attacking specific systems, like #SCADA, or other specialized systems or networks, like the #SWIFT banking transfer. This discussion also is great for showing management the time and effort required to gain access to systems.

We also talk about the #OODA loop (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OODA_loop) and how disrupting that will often cause attacks to go awry or to be stunted, reducing the effectiveness.

Sean T. Malone website: http://www.seantmalone.com/

Slides and presentation referred to in the podcast: http://www.seantmalone.com/docs/us-16-Malone-Using-an-Expanded-Cyber-Kill-Chain-Model-to-Increase-Attack-Resiliency.pdf

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2016-033: Privileged Access Workstations (PAWs) and how to implement them Aug 22, 2016

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Bill V. (@blueteamer on Twitter) and was the 1st of a series we like to call "2nd Chances: Rejected Talks". Bill had a talk that was rejected initially at DerbyCon (later accepted after someone else cancelled) Here is the synopsis of his talk that you can now see at DerbyCon:

Privileged Access Workstations (PAWs) are hardened admin workstations implemented to protect privileged accounts. In this talk I will discuss my lessons learned while deploying PAWs in the real world as well as other techniques I've used to limit exposure to credential theft and lateral movement. I hope to show fellow blue teamers these types of controls are feasible to implement, even in small environments.

TechNet article referenced on the show:

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server-docs/security/securing-privileged-access/privileged-access-workstations

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