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2016-022: Earl Carter dissects the Angler Exploit Kit Jun 06, 2016

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Earl Carter spends all day researching exploit kits and using that information to protect customers from various malware payloads that spread ransomware. This week we sit down with him to understand the #Angler EK.

He starts us off with a history or where it came from and how it gained so much popularity, evolving from earlier EKs, like #BlackHole, or WebAttacker. We even discuss how it's gone from drive-by downloads, to running only in memory, to being used in malvertising campaigns. We even get to hear about how the creators "rent" out the EK, and how they also control the malvertising side as well. Great insights into how the EK eco-system operates...

We talk about some of the vulns used by exploit kits. Contrary to popular belief, the vulns used don't always have to be 0day. Blue teamers will learn valuable insights in protecting your networks from this EK.

Direct Link:http://traffic.libsyn.com/brakeingsecurity/2016-022-earl_carter_dissects_angler_ek.mp3

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Links referenced during the show:

Earl's slides from Bsides Austin: http://www.slideshare.net/EarlCarter3/bsides-anglerevolution-talk-60408313

http://blog.0x3a.com/post/118366451134/angler-exploit-kit-using-tricks-to-avoid-referrer http://blogs.cisco.com/security/talos/angler-flash-0-day http://malware.dontneedcoffee.com/2014/08/angler-ek-now-capable-of-fileless.html https://isc.sans.edu/forums/diary/Angler+exploit+kit+pushes+new+variant+of+ransomware/19681 http://blogs.cisco.com/security/talos/angler-flash-0-day https://hiddencodes.wordpress.com/2015/05/29/angler-exploit-kit-breaks-referer-chain-using-https-to-http-redirection/ https://heimdalsecurity.com/blog/ultimate-guide-angler-exploit-kit-non-technical-people/

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2016-021: Carbon Black's CTO Ben Johnson on EDR, the layered approach, and threat intelligence May 29, 2016

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Ben Johnson (@chicagoben on Twitter) has spent a good deal of time working on protecting client's endpoints. From his work at the NSA, to being the co-founder of Carbon Black (@carbonblack_inc).

We managed to have him on to discuss EDR (#Endpoint Detection and Response), TTP (#Tactics, Techniques, and Procedures), and #Threat #Intelligence industry.

Ben discusses with us the Layered Approach to EDR:

1. Hunting

2. Automation

3. Integration

4. Retrospection

5. Patterns of Attack/Detection

6. indicator-based detection

7. Remediation

8. Triage

9. Visibility

We also discuss how VirusTotal's changes in policy regarding sharing of information is going to affect the threat intel industry.

Ben also discusses his opinion of our "Moxie vs. Mechanisms" podcast, where businesses spend too much on shiny boxes vs. people.

Brakesec apologizes for the audio issues during minute 6 and minute 22. Google Hangouts was not kind to us :(

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https://roberthurlbut.com/blog/make-threat-modeling-work-oreilly-2016

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2016-020-College Vs. Certifications Vs. Self-taught May 21, 2016

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Dr. Matt Miller is a professor at the University of Nebraska at Kearney. We had him on to discuss a matter that seems to weigh heavily on the infosec community. What will a CS degree get you? What are you learning these days as a future code jockey? Is skipping college altogether better?

We discuss what he does to arm future developers with the tools necessary to get a job. We hear about what they also might be lacking in as well.

Dr. Miller is also spearheading a new cybersecurity degree track at his university. We discuss what it's like to head that up, and we even get into a bit of discussion on Assembly language.

ASM book used in the above class: http://www.drpaulcarter.com/pcasm/

Download here: http://www.drpaulcarter.com/pcasm/pcasm-book-pdf.zip

We also discuss free alternatives for learning out there, and how effective they are.

Show notes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Grimx_OCSURTktzM5QRKqsG9p9G5LljdleplH1DZQv4/edit?usp=sharing

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2016-019-Creating proper business cases and justifications May 16, 2016

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Procurement is a process. Often a long drawn out, tedious process, but it is necessary to ensure that hardware and software is going to be what works in your organization.

We go over what is necessary to make sure your procurement is as smooth as possible. Some of the topics we discuss include:

1. Aligning business goals and operational goals

2. How to discuss ROI with management

3. Getting actionable information for business requirements from affected parties

4. Steering yourself away from confirmation bias or optimism bias, and ensuring you're thinking critically when comparing the current status quo vs. a new solution

5. Information you might want to gather from potential vendors to make a more informed decision as to whether their product is the one you want

And finally, we discuss how to handle the dread vendor demos. There may be a number of them, and they are arguably the best method of knowing the software or hardware is going to work for you.

This is a topic that affects everyone, whether you are a manager, or a user of the technology involved.

We also like to remind people that our DerbyCon CTF and raffle are still going on. There is plenty of time to get involved if you want a chance to get a ticket to Derbycon 2016!

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Links referred to in the show:

http://www.ask.com/business-finance/business-justification-example-cdebe6f929949e8c

http://www.iso20022.org/documents/BJ/BJ044/ISO20022BJ_ATICA_v4_with_comments.pdf

http://klariti.com/business-case-2/business-case-justify-business-need/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_case

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimism_bias

http://www.ehow.com/how_6672801_write-business-justification.html

http://www.acqnotes.com/acqnote/careerfields/establishing-software-requirements

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2016-018-software restriction policies and Applocker May 09, 2016

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Windows has all the tools you need to secure an OS, but we rarely use them. One example of this is 'Software restriction policies'. Which is a method by which you can block certain files from being saved anywhere, what file types can be executed in a directory, and can even whether or not you should allow software to install.

We also discuss the use of parental controls as a cheap, easy method of restricting users to access certain websites, installing software from iTunes store, or restricting access to certain functions or applications.

Also, the 2nd clue for our CTF can be found in this podcast... see if you can find the giant clue... :)

**NOTE: We had an issue with Mr. Boettcher's Windows 10 install, he's using Windows 10 Home, which does not appear to have Applocker or Software Restriction Policy by default. So, I cut a lot of us bickering^H^H^H^H discussing how to get it to work, so the middle around 25:00 mark will feel a tad off. Apologies... I should have stopped recording.

Links referred to during the podcast:

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh831534.aspx

http://mechbgon.com/srp/ - LOL, mentions the use of 'parental controls' to restrict systems

http://www.instructables.com/id/Getting-past-Software-Restriction-Policies/

http://www.itingredients.com/how-to-deploy-software-restriction-policy-gpo/

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/itpro/windows/keep-secure/using-software-restriction-policies-and-applocker-policies

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2016-017-The Art of Networking, Salted Hashes, and the 1st annual Podcast CTF! May 02, 2016

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You might have heard "Network when you can, not when you have to..." The art of network is creating connections and nurturing relationships that benefit everyone. This week we discuss building networks, creating people networks that allow for free sharing of ideas and knowledge. Whether it be a professional organization,like ISSA or ISC2 meetings, or you just get a bunch of people together to have coffee on a Saturday morning.

We also brainstorm ideas on how people in our community keep their skills sharp, and why some seem to allow them to atrophy once they get a specific certification or degree. We cite examples of things and actions that allow you to gain more knowledge, and to ensure your company will still see you as an SME. CPEs can be gained in the most simplest of methods. Just by listening to this podcast, for example, you can receive one CPE (1 hour = 1CPE) there are many other ways of getting them. and we cite several in this podcast.

We also discuss the continued use of unsalted, weakly hashed passwords in systems, and why a recent breach of a custom Minecraft implementation allowed it to occur.

Story: http://news.sky.com/story/1687550/minecraft-hack-exposes-seven-million-passwords

But I think the most exciting part of the podcast is theannouncement of the 1st annual Brakeing Down Security PodcastCTF!The details can be found in the podcast.

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2016-016-Exploit Kits, the "Talent Gap", and buffer overflows Apr 25, 2016

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Angler, Phoenix, Zeus... all famous exploit kits that are used to move malware into your environment. This week, Mr. Boettcher and I discuss the merits of Exploit kits, how they function and what can be done to stop them. They are only getting more numerous and they will be serving more malware to come.

We shift gears and discuss the 'talent gap' the media keeps bringing up, and whether it's perceived or real. We discuss the industry as a whole, and what caused the gap, and if it will get better...

*BONUS*... after the audio, listen to me (Bryan) failing at understanding buffer overflow exercises I'm doing as part of my #OSCP certification...

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2016-015-Dr. Hend Ezzeddine, and changing organizational security behavior Apr 16, 2016

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Dr. Ezzeddine's slides from Bsides Austin (referenced during the interview): https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-qfQ-gWynwiQnBXMnJVeko4M25pdk1Sa0JnMGJrZmltWlRr/view?usp=sharing

You open the flash animation, click click click, answer 10 security questions that your 5 year old could answer, get your certificate of completion... congratulations, you checked the compliance box...

But what did you learn in that training? If you can't remember the next day, maybe it's because the training failed to resonate with you?

Have you ever heard red team #pentester say that the weakest link in any business is not the applications, or the hardware, but the people? If they can't find a vulnerability, the last vulnerability is the people. One email with a poisoned .docx, and you have a shell into a system...

Targeted trainings, and the use of certain styles of #training (presentations, in-person, hand puppets, etc) can be more effective for certain groups. Also, certain groups should have training based on the threat they might be susceptible to...

Dr. Hend #Ezzeddine came by this week to discuss how she helps #organizations get people to understand security topics and concepts, to create a positive security culture. Maybe even a culture that will not click on that attachment...

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2016-014-User_Training,_Motivations,_and_Speaking_the_Language Apr 08, 2016

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Fresh back from my vacation, Mr. Boettcher and I got to discussing things that have weighed on our minds, and I had a story from my travels that fit in perfectly with our discussion.

What does our industry (Infosec Practitioners) to motivate people to be secure? Is it a language barrier? I don't mean Spanish/English, but do we do a good job at speaking "user"? How can we do a better job at that if we find ourselves failing? How can speaking 'manager' or 'VP' help us get help that we need? For many, it's like the difference in communicating with someone who speaks Mandarin.

We discussed the need to educate people against thumbdrive insertion, even in the face of a study of people inserting random thumbdrives into their computers. We discuss the motivation of users who do so, whether it's altruistic, or malicious:

http://www.pc-tablet.co.in/2016/04/07/25826/study-shows-users-access-random-pendrives-computers-overlooking-risk/

We discussed an app logic flaw that were found recently in the news:

http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/free-pizza/

Which is exactly what we were talking about when talking to Ben Caudill a few weeks ago about app logic flaws. This flaw has been in the app for a good long time, and while the security researcher saw fit to report it, the ethical implications of keeping it secret could have cost Domino's a lot.

Mr. Boettcher gives us a report of Bsides Austin, and how it's grown in the past few years. We finish up discussing infosec conferences and how they appear to be thriving. Is it good marketing, or are companies finally understanding their importance?

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2016-013-Michael Gough, the ISSM reference model, and the 5 P's Mar 26, 2016

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We discuss a model that Michael Gough used while he was at HP. The Information Security and Service Management (ISSM) Reference model can be used to help companies align their IS and IT goals with the businesses goals... If you've been a listener of our podcast for a while now, you might have heard our 2-part podcast on ITIL with Tim Wood, which is a service based solution to enable your IT and infosec initiatives to also align with your business needs.

From the ISSM whitepaper:

"organizations need to build and run an integrated service management system that addresses security and risk management as well as the regulatory compliance imposed on the agency while ensuring that agreed services are provided to internal and external customers and managed end-to-end.

For agencies and organizations to achieve meaningful service outcomes, technology and agency decision makers need to align their goals and strategies more closely while dealing with an increasing amount of technologies, threats, and regulatory compliance requirements."

We discuss the idea of the "5 P's", which are "Policy, Process, People, Products (or technology), and Proof", and how they are important to the implementation of the #ISSM reference model

Finally, we discuss a typical engagement using the ISSM model. Creation of the 7 Core components and additional using a maturity model to self-assess your company in an effort to show transparency to your internal processes.

Important links:

http://www8.hp.com/h20195/V2/getpdf.aspx/4AA2-2350ENW.pdf?ver=1.0

http://www.digitalgovernment.com/media/Downloads/asset_upload_file772_2477.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_security_management_system

http://www.davebolick.com/SampleNewsletterHPFinancialAdvisor.pdf

http://media.govtech.net/HP_RC_08/Security_RC/ISSM_for_SLG.pdf

Integrating ITIL into infosec: http://traffic.libsyn.com/brakeingsecurity/2015-018-Integrating_infosec_with_ITIL.mp3

http://traffic.libsyn.com/brakeingsecurity/2015-017_ITIL_and_infosec.mp3

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