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    BrakeSec Education Podcast

    A podcast about the world of Cybersecurity, Privacy, Compliance, and Regulatory issues that arise in today’s workplace. Co-hosts Bryan Brake, Brian Boettcher, and Amanda Berlin teach concepts that aspiring Information Security professionals need to know, or refresh the memories of seasoned veterans.

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    2017-012-UK Gov Apprenticeship infosec programs with Liam Graves Apr 05, 2017
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    One of our Slackers (people who hang with us on our Slack Channel) mentioned that he was writing exam materials for one of the programs created by the UK Government to train high school and/or people headed to university in skills without the traditional 4 year education track.

    I was very intrigued by this, since we don't appear to have anything like this, outside of interning at a company, which means you're not considered a full-time employee, have no benefits, and there's no oversight about what you are learning. (Your mileage may vary)

    So we asked Liam Graves (@tunnytraffic) to come on and discuss his experience, and how he was enjoying it. We discuss various methods of alternative educations here and in the UK, as well as why someone should possibly consider an apprenticeship. We also discuss how that would work in the US (or could it?)

    Also, I very sorry Ireland ... :) I did not mean to lump you in the rest of the Commonwealth...

    Direct Link: http://traffic.libsyn.com/brakeingsecurity/2017-012-UK_Gov_apprenticeships_with_Liam_Graves.mp3

    Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZFjAqFb4A60M1TMa0t1KXw

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    Show Notes:

    UK apprenticeship schemes:

    long established though a recent focus shift back from academic achievement to hands-on skills and understanding/applying more than just remembering.

    End Point Assessment - project based final assessment.

    A mix of targeted learning and on-the-job experience working towards a brief: https://www.thetechpartnership.com/globalassets/pdfs/apprenticeship-standards/cyber-intrusion-analysis/occupational-brief-cyber-intrusion-analyst.pdf

    Boring - but some background reading. Apprentices at this level will use levels 1-3 of Bloom's taxonomy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloom's_taxonomy) 1) Remembering (What type questions). 2) Understanding (Which of these/Why type questions) 3) Applying (It this then what scenarios and questions)

    Other schemes include (new and existing):

    • Cyber Intrusion Analysts
    • Cyber Security Technologists
    • Data Analysts
    • Digital Marketers
    • Infrastructure Technicians
    • IT Technical Salesperson
    • Network Engineers
    • Software Developers
    • Software Development Technicians
    • Software Testers
    • Unified Communications Trouble-shooters (no idea what these ones are)
    • Unified Communications Technicians

    https://www.gov.uk/apply-apprenticeship (links for Scotland & Wales on the same page).

    https://www.thetechpartnership.com/about/ - employers drive the training for the type of employees they need.

    Routes to employment - fast paced industry so 1) older pathways may not be relevant. 2) there are so many ways in to the industry pick the right one for you - there's a difference between people who appreciate structured learning, are autodidactic, learn extra and over what's expected, dev, risk, red/blue team, academic, hands-on, etc.

    Internships (rarer, though some degrees offer a year in industry and will assist in making positions available)

    Graduate schemes - very common, will give a grad opportunities to move around the business. Direct hires from uni.

    IBM has a trade school - hiring 2,000 US Veterans in the next 5 years

    https://www.axios.com/ibm-2000-jobs-exclusive-2317626492.html

    Technical schools

    http://www.browardtechnicalcolleges.com/

    http://www.bates.ctc.edu/ITSpecialist

    DoL apprenticeship programs

    https://oa.doleta.gov/bat.cfm

    Difference between 'for-profit' and 'trade schools'

    Internships = some companies are paying fat bank:

    http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/04/summer-interns-at-tech-start-ups-are-making-six-figure-salaries

    Washington State trades/apprenticeships

    Mostly 'blue' collar positions

    http://www.lni.wa.gov/TradesLicensing/Apprenticeship/Programs/TradeDescrip/

    Few 'technical positions'

    Not sure there is an 'apprenticeship' in the US, outside of 'internships' that are given to college students

    No 'junior security architects', or 'junior pentesters'

    Yet non-technical positions have junior slots

    Manager / Senior manager, Project manager / Sr. Project manager

    Difficulty in infosec apprenticeships

    What are the 'starter' jobs?

    IT related

    Sysadmins

    Log analyst

    Useful links:

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/huge-response-to-join-cyber-security-apprenticeship-scheme

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/cyber-security-cni-apprenticeships

    https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/new-talent

    All available apprenticeships:

    https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/apprenticeship-standards

    Employer commitments:

    https://www.gov.uk/take-on-an-apprentice

    For people looking to pivot from non-Infosec jobs into cyber security:

    https://cybersecuritychallenge.org.uk/about/new-to-the-challenge

    https://www.scmagazineuk.com/government-cyber-retraining-academy-graduates-snapped-up-by-industry/article/647986/

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/apprenticeship-levy-how-it-will-work/apprenticeship-levy-how-it-will-work


    2017-011-Software Defined Perimeter with Jason Garbis Mar 29, 2017
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    We talked with Jason Garbis this week about Software Defined Perimeter (SDP). Ever thought about going completely without needing a VPN? Do you think I just made a crazy suggestion and am off my medications? Google has been doing it for years, and organizations like the Cloud Security Alliance are expecting this to be the next big tech innovation. So much so, that they are already drafting version 2 of the SDP guidelines.

    So after talking with a friend of mine about how they were trying to implement it, he suggested talking to Jason, since he was on the steering committee for it. While Jason does work for a company that sells this solution, our discussion with him is very vendor agnostic, and he even discusses an open source version of SDP that you could implement or test out as a PoC (details in show notes below).

    This is a great topic to stay on top of, as one day, your CTO/CIO or manager will come by and ask about the feasibility of implementing this, especially if your company assets are cloud based... So have a listen!

    Direct Link: http://traffic.libsyn.com/brakeingsecurity/2017-011-Software_Defined_Perimeter.mp3

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    Show Notes:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Defined_Perimeter

    https://cloudsecurityalliance.org/group/software-defined-perimeter/

    Hmmm… seems like a standard created by companies selling their products for it

    Have a product, create a problem, fix the problem...

    How much alike is this to things like 'Beyondcorp'?

    https://www.beyondcorp.com/

    http://www.networkworld.com/article/3053561/security/learning-about-sdp-via-google-beyondcorp.html

    De-perimeterization - removing all the bits 'protecting' your computer

    Treat your computers as 'on the Internet'

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De-perimeterisation

    https://collaboration.opengroup.org/jericho/SPC_swhitlock.pdf

    https://github.com/WaverleyLabs/SDPcontroller

    2FA becomes much more important, or just plain needed, IMO --brbr

    Questions:

    How will development of applications change when attempting to implement these technologies?

    If we allow deperimeterization of legacy apps (like Oracle products), with a complicated security model, how do you keep these older apps under control?

    Can this cut down on the "Shadow IT" issue? Does the user control the certs?

    How does this work with devices with no fully realized operating systems?

    Phones, HVAC, IoT

    Legacy SCADA or mainframes?

    What is the maturity level of a company to implement this?

    What minimum requirements are needed?

    Asset management?

    Policies?

    Who/how do you monitor this?

    More blinky boxes?

    Will WAFs and Web proxies still function as expected?

    Are there any companies companies were this is not a good fit?

    What's the typical timeline for moving to this network model?

    What's the best way to deploy this?

    Blow up old network, insert new network?

    Phase it in with new kit, replacing old kit?

    Compliance

    How do explain this to auditors?

    "We don't have firewalls, that's for companies that suck, we are 1337"

    Other than "scalability" (which seems like regular solutions would have as well) I'd like to know what real value they provide


    2017-010-Authors Amanda Berlin and Lee Brotherston of the "Defensive Security Handbook" Mar 22, 2017
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    Our very own Ms. Berlin and Mr. Lee Brotherston (@synackpse), veteran of the show, co-authored an #O'Reilly book called the "Defensive Security Handbook"

    We talk with Amanda and Lee (or Lee and Amanda :D ) about why they wrote the book, how people should use the book, and how you can maximize your company's resources to protect you.

    The best thing is that you can pick up the ebook right now! It's available for pre-order on Safari books (Link), or pre-order on Amazon.com (Link)

    Hope you enjoy!

    Direct Link: http://traffic.libsyn.com/brakeingsecurity/2017-010-Defensive_Security_handbook.mp3

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    Itunes: (look for '2017-010') https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/brakeing-down-security-podcast/id799131292?mt=2

    Previous Lee Brotherston episodes:

    Threat Modeling w/ Lee Brotherston

    Is your ISP MiTM-ing you

    Lee fills in for Mr. Boettcher, along with Jarrod Frates

    TLS fingerprinting application

    #Bsides #London is accepting Call for Papers (#CFP) starting 14 Febuary 2017, as well as a Call for Workshops. Tickets are sold out currently, but will be other chances for tickets. Follow @bsidesLondon for more information. You can find out more information at https://www.securitybsides.org.uk/

    CFP closes 27 march 2017

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    2017-009-Dave Kennedy talks about CIAs 'Vault7', ISC2, and Derbycon updates! Mar 14, 2017
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    Wikileaks published a cache of documents and information from what appears to be a wiki from the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).

    This week, we discuss the details of the leak (as of 11Mar 2017), and how damaging it is to blue teamers.

    To help us, we asked Mr. Dave Kennedy (@hackingDave) to sit down with us and discuss what he found, and his opinions of the data that was leaked. Mr. Kennedy is always a great interview, and his insights are now regularly seen on Fox Business News, CNN, and MSNBC.

    Dave isn't one to rest on his laurels. For many of you, you know him as the co-organizer of #derbycon, as well as a board member of #ISC2. We ask him about initiatives going on with ISC2, and how you (whether or not you're a ISC2 cert holder). You can help with various committees and helping to improve the certification landscape. We talk about how to get involved.

    We finish up asking about the latest updates to DerbyCon, as well as the dates of tickets, and we talk about our CTF for a free ticket to DerbyCon.

    Direct Link: http://traffic.libsyn.com/brakeingsecurity/2017-009-dave_kennedy_vault7_isc2_derbycon_update.mp3

    Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqXGGg7-BlM

    iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/2017-009-dave-kennedy-talks-abotu-cias-vault7-isc2/id799131292?i=1000382638971&mt=2

    #Bsides #London is accepting Call for Papers (#CFP) starting 14 Febuary 2017, as well as a Call for Workshops. Tickets are sold out currently, but will be other chances for tickets. Follow @bsidesLondon for more information. You can find out more information at https://www.securitybsides.org.uk/

    CFP closes 27 march 2017

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    --show notes--

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-10758578

    WL: "CIA 'hoarded' vulnerabilities or 'cyber-weapons'

    Should they not have tools that allow them to infiltrate systems of 'bad' people?

    Promises to share information with manufacturers

    BrBr- Manufacturers and devs are the reason the CIA has 'cyber-weapons'

    Shit code, poor software design/architecture

    Security wonks aren't without blame here either

    http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-39218393 -RAND report

    Report suggested stockpiling is 'good'

    "On the other hand, publicly disclosing a vulnerability that isn't known by one's adversaries gives them the upper hand, because the adversary could then protect against any attack using that vulnerability, while still keeping an inventory of vulnerabilities of which only it is aware of in reserve."

    Encryption does still work, in many cases… as it appears they are having to intercept the data before it makes it into secure messaging systems…

    http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/cia-wikileaks-dump-tells-us-encryption-works-46045668

    (somewhat relevant? Not sure if you want to touch on https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/837846963471122432/photo/1)

    Wikileaks - more harm than good?

    Guess that depends on what side you're on

    What side is Assange on? (his own side?)

    Media creates FUD because they don't understand

    Secure messaging apps busted (fud inferred by WL)

    In fact, data is circumvented before encryption is applied.

    Some of the docs make you wonder about the need for 'over-classification'

    Vulnerabilities uncovered

    Samsung Smart TVs "Fake-Off"

    Tools to exfil data off of iDevices

    BrBr- Cellbrite has sold that for years to the FBI

    CIA appears to only have up to iOS 9 (according to docs released)

    Car hacking tech

    Sandbox detection (notices mouse clicks or the lack of them)

    Reported by eEye: https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/page_2621847.html

    Technique: Process Hollowing: https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/page_3375167.html

    Not new: https://attack.mitre.org/wiki/Technique/T1093

    **anything Mr. Kennedy feels is important to mention**

    What can blue teamers do to protect themselves?

    Take an accounting of 'smart devices' in your workplace

    Educate users on not bringing smart devices to work

    And at home (if they are remote)

    Alexa,

    Restrict smart devices in sensitive areas

    SCIFs, conference rooms, even in 'open workplace' areas

    Segment possibly affected systems from the internet

    Keep proper inventories of software used in your environment

    Modify IR exercises to allow for this type of scenario?

    Reduce 'smart' devices

    Grab that drill and modify the TV in the conference room

    Cover the cameras on TV

    Is that too paranoid?

    Don't setup networking on smart devices or use cloud services on 'smart' devices

    Remind devs that unpatched or crap code can become the next 'cyber-weapon' ;)


    2017-008-AWS S3 outage, how it should color your IR scenarios, and killing the 'whiteboard' interview Mar 06, 2017
    Show notes

    If you were under a rock, you didn't hear about the outage that #Amazon #Web Services (#AWS) suffered at the hands of sophisticated, nation-state... wah?

    "an authorized #S3 team #member using an established #playbook executed a command which was intended to remove a small number of servers for one of the S3 subsystems that is used by the S3 billing process. Unfortunately, one of the inputs to the command was entered incorrectly and a larger set of servers was removed than intended."

    Well... okay, so for companies that do regular IR response tests and have a good majority of their assets and production in cloud based services, is it time to discuss having the 'extreme' scenario of 'What do we do when [AWS|Azure|Google Compute] goes down?'

    We also discuss an article about #developers who want to get rid of the #whiteboard #interview... is it as #discriminatory as they suggest, or is it just devs who aren't confident or lacking #skills trying to get hired? (see show notes below for links)

    Finally, we talk about Ms. #Berlin's talk she will be giving at #AIDE on 6-7 April. It's gonna be a "hands-on" talk. What do we mean? Listen to our show and find out.

    #AIDE - https://appyide.org/events/ $60

    more info: https://appyide.org/1313-2/

    Direct Link: http://traffic.libsyn.com/brakeingsecurity/2017-008-AWS_S3_outage-IR_scenarios_white-board-interviews.mp3

    #Bsides #London is accepting Call for Papers (#CFP) starting 14 Febuary 2017, as well as a Call for Workshops. Tickets are sold out currently, but will be other chances for tickets. Follow @bsidesLondon for more information. You can find out more information at https://www.securitybsides.org.uk/

    CFP closes 27 march 2017

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    ---show notes---

    AWS S3 outage (hopefully more information by the end of the week)

    Massive outages - many sites down

    IoT devices borked https://techcrunch.com/2017/02/28/amazon-aws-s3-outage-is-breaking-things-for-a-lot-of-websites-and-apps/

    https://www.wired.com/2017/02/happens-one-site-hosts-entire-internet/

    TL;DR of the S3 outage - "an authorized S3 team member using an established playbook executed a command which was intended to remove a small number of servers for one of the S3 subsystems that is used by the S3 billing process. Unfortunately, one of the inputs to the command was entered incorrectly and a larger set of servers was removed than intended."

    Brian: Water sprinkler story…

    Do we put too much stock in Amazon?

    Email Story time: Recent IR exercise

    Mostly AWS shop

    "If we suspend reality" drinking game

    World War Z "the 10th man"

    Not the 1st time AWS was involved in an outage:

    http://www.datacenterdynamics.com/content-tracks/security-risk/major-ddos-attack-on-dyn-disrupts-aws-twitter-spotify-and-more/97176.fullarticle

    Realistic IR exercises need to examine the 'ultimate' bad…

    Even if you're in 'suspend reality' mode

    https://theoutline.com/post/1166/programmers-are-confessing-their-coding-sins-to-protest-a-broken-job-interview-process

    http://blog.interviewing.io/you-cant-fix-diversity-in-tech-without-fixing-the-technical-interview/

    No problem with copy/paste, hunting up functions, etc

    Problem comes when failure to understand the code you're using, and the integration of that code therein

    Programming Interviews Exposed

    LOVED this idea….

    https://letsjusthackshit.org/platypuscon2016.html

    "In the spirit of what brought this community together, we're aiming to build a super hands-on event: that is, instead of a series of talks while you plan on missing to catch up with your friends at the cafe down the road, we're putting together a full day of hands-on workshops where you can get your hands dirty and we can all help each other learn something new."

    Patreon - just pop a dollar

    CTF Club - Tuesdays 9am Pacific / 6pm Pacific

    Book club - Defensive Security Handbook - Starting 15 March


    2017-007- Audio from Bsides Seattle 2017 Mar 01, 2017
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    Bryan had the pleasure of attending his 3rd Bsides Seattle a few weeks ago. Lots of great speakers, great discussion.

    We have 3 interviews here this week:

    Justin Case (@jcase) discusses some of his talk about hacking the Google Pixel, an HTC produced phone. We discuss why Android gets the 'insecure' moniker by the media, and whether it's warranted or not.

    Next, Sam Vaughn (@sidechannel_org) talks about setting up the Crypto Village, why he does it, and what you can learn by solving these puzzles.

    Finally, Matt Domko discusses his experiences with Bro, as well as using Bro for packet analysis and what is needed when analyzing packets...

    If you are looking for some great content, a Bsides is nearby, just look around...

    Other Twitter handles mentioned on the show...

    @ben_ra @firewater_devs (both phone hackers)

    Direct Link: http://traffic.libsyn.com/brakeingsecurity/2017-007-bsides_seattle_Feb2017.mp3

    YouTube:

    iTunes:

    Bsides London is accepting Call for Papers starting 14 Febuary 2017, as well as a Call for Workshops. You can find out more information at https://www.securitybsides.org.uk/

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    2017-006- Joel Scambray, infosec advice, staying out from in front of the train, and hacking exposed Feb 19, 2017
    Show notes

    Joel Scambray joined us this week to discuss good app design, why it's so difficult, and what can be done to fix it when possible.

    Joel also co-authored many of the "Hacking Exposed" series of books. We ask him about other books that could come from the well known series.

    We also ask about why the #infosec person often feels like they need to protect their organization to the expense of our own position (or sanity) and how we as an industry should be not 'in front of the train', but guiding the train to it's destination, one of prosperity and security. Conversely, we also discuss why some positions in security are so short-lived, such as the role of CISO.

    From SC magazine (https://www.scmagazineuk.com/joel-scambray-joins-ncc-group-as-technical-director/article/634098/):

    "Security expert and author, Joel Scambray, has joined NCC Group as technical director. He will be based at the Austin, US office.

    Scambray has more than 20 years of experience in information security. In his new role, he will work with some of the company's biggest clients using his experience in business development, security evangelism and strategic consultancy."

    Direct Link: http://traffic.libsyn.com/brakeingsecurity/2017-006-Joel_scambray-infosec_advice-hacking_exposed.mp3

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    Brakesec Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZFjAqFb4A60M1TMa0t1KXw

    Bsides London is accepting Call for Papers starting 14 Febuary 2017, as well as a Call for Workshops. You can find out more information at https://www.securitybsides.org.uk/

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    Show Notes:

    Joel Scambray

    In a bio:

    "Joel's words of security wisdom: Security is a type of risk management, which is about informing a decision. The security professional's challenge is to bring the most evidence possible to support those decisions, both technical and non."

    Building and maintaining a security program

    Which is better?

    starting with a few quick wins

    Or having an overarching project to head where you want to go

    Starting companies (buyouts / stock options / lessons learned)

    Hacking Exposed

    Will you stop at '7'?

    Will there be a "hacking exposed: IoT"?

    Medical devices

    What leadership style works best for you?

    Things we couldn't cover due to time:

    Security Shift from network layer to app layer

    Software defined networking, for example

    How to set policies to keep your devs from running amok

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    2017-005-mick douglas, avoid bad sales people, blue team defense tools Feb 14, 2017
    Show notes

    Mick Douglas is always great to have on. A consummate professional, and blue team advocate for years now, he teaches SANS courses designed to help defenders against the forces of the red team, pentesters, and even bad actors.

    But this week, we have a different Mr. Douglas. This week, he's here to talk about sales tactics, #neuro #linguistic #programming, leading the question, and other social engineering techniques that salespeople will do to get you to buy maybe what your company doesn't need, but thinks it does. We have some good times discussing ways to ensure the buying of your new shiny box at work goes more smoothly, what you should look out for, and ways to tell if they are over-selling and under-delivering.

    Also, Mick has been working on a project near and dear to his heart. After discussing with @carnal0wnage a year or so back, he's fleshed out a spreadsheet that tracks attack vectors, and depending on what controls are in your environment, can show you how well a particular attack is against your environment. This would be a great asset to blue teams who might want to shore up defenses, especially if they are vulnerable in a particular area. Mr. Douglas is looking for comments, suggestions, and additions to his spreadsheet, and you can even download a copy of the Google Doc to try in your own environment, free of charge.

    Book mentioned in the show: (non-sponsored link) https://www.amazon.com/Influence-Psychology-Persuasion-Robert-Cialdini/dp/006124189X

    Mick's document:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pI-FI1QITaIjuBsN30au1ssbJAZawPA0BYy8lp6_jV8/edit#gid=0

    Mick refers the the MITRE ATTACK matrix in the show, here's our show discussing it:

    http://traffic.libsyn.com/brakeingsecurity/2015-051-ATTACK_Matrix.mp3

    https://attack.mitre.org/wiki/ATT%26CK_Matrix

    Mick's last appearances on BrakeSec:

    http://traffic.libsyn.com/brakeingsecurity/2015-024-Mick_Douglas.mp3

    http://traffic.libsyn.com/brakeingsecurity/2015-025-Mick_douglas_part2.mp3

    http://traffic.libsyn.com/brakeingsecurity/2015-032-Jarrod_and_Mick_DFIR.mp3

    http://traffic.libsyn.com/brakeingsecurity/2016-026-exfiltration_techniques-redteaming_vs_pentesting-and-gaining_persistence.mp3

    Direct Link: http://traffic.libsyn.com/brakeingsecurity/2017-005-mick_douglas-attack_defense_worksheet.mp3

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    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3K-2yneKU4

    Bsides London is accepting Call for Papers starting 14 Febuary 2017, as well as a Call for Workshops. You can find out more information at https://www.securitybsides.org.uk/

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    2017-004-sandboxes, jails, chrooting, protecting applications, and analyzing malware Feb 06, 2017
    Show notes

    This week, we discuss sandboxing technologies. Most of the time, infosec people are using sandboxes and similar technology for analyzing malware and malicious software.

    Developers use it to create additional protections, or even to create defenses to ward off potential attack vectors.

    We discuss sandboxes and sandboxing technology, jails, chrooting of applications, and even tools that keep applications honest, in particular, the pledge(2) function in OpenBSD

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    Show notes:

    Sandboxing tech - https://hangouts.google.com/call/yrpzdahvjjdbfhesvjltk4ahgmf

    A sandbox is implemented by executing the software in a restricted operating system environment, thus controlling the resources (for example, file descriptors, memory, file system space, etc.) that a process may use.

    Various types of sandbox tech

    Jails - freebsd

    Much like Solaris 10's zones, restricted operating system, also able to install OSes inside, like Debian

    http://devil-detail.blogspot.com/2013/08/debian-linux-freebsd-jail-zfs.html

    Pledge(8) - new to OpenBSD

    Program says what it should use, if it steps outside those lines, it's killed

    http://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/going-full-pledge

    http://man.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi/OpenBSD-current/man2/pledge.2?query=pledge

    http://www.openbsd.org/papers/hackfest2015-pledge/mgp00008.html

    Chroot - openbsd, linux (chroot jails)

    "A chroot on Unix operating systems is an operation that changes the apparent root directory for the current running process and its children"

    Example: "www" runs in /var/www. A chrooted www website must contain all the necessary files and libraries inside of /var/www, because to the application /var/www is '/'

    Rules based execution - AppArmor, PolicyKit, SeLinux

    Allows users to set what will be ran, and which apps can inject DLLs or objects.

    "It also can control file/registry security (what programs can read and write to the file system/registry). In such an environment, viruses and trojans have fewer opportunities of infecting a computer."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seccomp

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Security_Modules

    Android VMs

    Virtual machines - sandboxes in their own right

    Snapshot capability

    Revert once changes have occurred

    CON: some malware will detect VM environments, change ways of working

    Containers (docker, kubernetes, vagrant, etc)

    Quick standup of images

    Blow away without loss of host functionality

    Helpful to run containers as an un-privileged user.

    https://blog.jessfraz.com/post/getting-towards-real-sandbox-containers/

    Chrome sandbox: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/linux_sandboxing.md

    Emulation Vs. Virtualization

    http://labs.lastline.com/different-sandboxing-techniques-to-detect-advanced-malware --seems like a good link

    VMware Thinapp (emulator):

    https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1030224

    (continued next page)

    Malware lab creation (Alienvault blog):

    https://www.alienvault.com/blogs/security-essentials/building-a-home-lab-to-become-a-malware-hunter-a-beginners-guide

    https://www.reverse.it/

    News: (assuming it goes short)

    SHA-1 generated certs will be deprecated soon - https://threatpost.com/sha-1-end-times-have-arrived/123061/

    (whitelisting files in Apache)

    https://isc.sans.edu/diary/Whitelisting+File+Extensions+in+Apache/21937

    http://blog.erratasec.com/2017/01/the-command-line-for-cybersec.html

    https://github.com/robertkuhar/java_coding_guidelines

    https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/South%20Korean%20Malware%20Attack_1.pdf#

    https://www.concise-courses.com/security/conferences-of-2017/


    2017-003-Amanda Berlin at ShmooCon Jan 29, 2017
    Show notes

    Amanda Berlin attended Shmoocon this year, and sat down with a few people. She discussed a bit with John about what HackEd is about (http://hackeducate.com/) Amands writes: "I had an amazing time at my 3rd #Shmoocon. I was able to interview a handful of really cool people working on several different types of infosec education. I was able to watch a few talks, spend some time in the lockpick village, as well as go to Shmoocon Epilogue. It's always amazing to watch people talk about what they are passionate about, and Shmoocon is a great relaxed environment where that happens frequently." James Green @greenjam94 Aaron Lint @lintile Jon? @hackeducate Melanie Rich-Wittrig @securitycandy Amanda Berlin attended ShmooCon this year, and sat down with a few people. She discussed a bit with John about what HackEd is about (http://hackeducate.com/) Melanie Rich-Wittrig (@securitycandy) discusses how she's empowering kids to get into information security, even as early as age 10 or 11. She discusses how she motivates by teaching CTF and hacking concept, and gamifying by using point systems. www.securitycandy.com

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