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    Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

    Join Joseph Scott Morgan every week as he explores a world that not many have had a chance to visit, the realm of death. Jo Scott will lead listeners on a journey through the blood soaked death scenes of America and then into the autopsy room to fully understand the science behind each case. Jo Scott is one America’s leading experts on applied forensics and is regularly featured on ‘Crime Stories with Nancy Grace’, ‘The Piketon Massacre’, Court TV and more.

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    The Case For An Autopsy: Who Decides? Feb 06, 2025
    Show notes

    In Nebraska a 56-year-old man dies alone in his apartment. He seemed to be in good health and his family wants to know what happened. A police officer decides the man died of "Natural Causes" so no autopsy is performed. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack talk about legal death investigation and who makes the call when it comes to the "Manner of Death".

    Transcribe Highlights

    00:00.00 Introduction

    04:38.56 Story of regret

    10:35.89 Things that appear to be "natural"

    15:35.28 When the coroner is elected position

    20:18.72 Who makes a great legal death investigator

    25:37.62 Determining manner and cause of death

    30:50.66 Discussion of Coroner state

    35:20.27 What qualifies a police officer to determine "natural causes"?

    37:06.32 Conclusion

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    Ellen Greenberg Update: ME Says He Was Wrong! NOT Suicide! Feb 05, 2025
    Show notes

    The death of Ellen Greenberg was initially ruled a homicide, but without warning or explanation, Doctor Marlon Osbourne changed the ruling to suicide. Ellen's parents have spent the last 14 years trying to have it changed back to homicide, or undetermined. The Greenberg's have two civil suits about the case, one headed for the state supreme court later this year, but on the first day of jury selection for the other case, a settlement is reached. Doctor Marlon Osbourne, who conducted the autopsy on Ellen Greenberg as the former assistant medical examiner with the ME's office, signed a sworn verification statement in which he says he now believes Ellen's manner of death should be designated as something other than suicide. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the case and breakdown how this change impacts the case today and in the future.

    Transcribe Highlights

    00:00:00 Introduction

    03:29.50 Dr. Osbourne changes ruling from homicide to suicide

    07:23.79 The life of Ellen Greenberg

    12:21.71 location of injuries

    17:19.04 Joe talks about autopsy

    22:22.18 Greenberg had active day, no issues

    27:36.97 Classification of "manner of death"

    32:45.96 Giving a statement to police

    37:06.32 Steps in death investigation

    42:48.71 Conclusion

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    Serial Killer Sings "99 Bottles of Beer" At Sentencing in Front of Victims Families Feb 04, 2025
    Show notes

    Best Friends Jennifer Duey, 20, and Michelle Xavier, 18, attended a birthday dinner for a family member and are last seen together around 10:15 p.m Saturday, February 1, 1986, at a convenience store. Just over two hours later Jennifer and Michelle are found dead on the side of the road, nude, their clothing hung on a barbed wire fence. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the crime scene and how DNA was used to get a conviction after 40 years as a cold case. In a shocking turn, after being convicted of the double homicide, David Misch sings "99 bottles of beer" during victim impact statements and sentencing

    Transcript Highlights

    00:00.71 Introduction

    01:29.45 Last Photo taken of victims

    04:48.63 Joe Shares personal story of recent health issue

    08:06.47 February 2, 1986, Jennifer and Michelle go to dinner party

    10:50.46 Discussion of how victims came in contact with suspect

    15:22.11 Jennifer and Michelle bodies found by person on motorcycle

    20:06.70 Victims were nude, clothing hung on barbed wire fence

    24:56.80 Jennifer killed by gunshot wounds

    30:01.86 In rape cases, searching for forced sexual trauma

    35:15.81 In 1986 DNA was known, but it wasn't until 2016 it was used to find suspect in this case

    40:00.58 Convicted individuals acting out in court

    46:01.90 Conclusion

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    SHOCKING AUTOPSY Who or What Killed Noah Presgrove "The Best of Body Bags" Jan 30, 2025
    Show notes

    The autopsy of Noah Presgrove is released and for the first time in the history of Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan, Joe is going to issue you a warning for what you are about to hear. Noah Presgrove is at a birthday, end of summer, labor day party with friends all weekend. But something happened Sunday night to cause Noah to leave the party by himself. He is found the next morning at 5:53am, alone, dead, on the side of a rural highway. He is naked except for a pair of shoes, but one of the shoes isn't his, it belongs to a guy asleep at the house where the party took place. The "friends" he has known all of his life aren't talking. His brother sees teeth scattered near his brother's body and pieces of chain. Who or What killed Noah Presgrove? Will the autopsy help answer the question?

    Transcript Highlights

    00:00:08 Introduction: Growing up in rural area

    00:03:10 Talk about List of Injuries

    00:05:17 Discussion of group dynamics

    00:09:12 Discussion of what happens to clothing

    00:12:27 Talk about social media evidence

    00:16:11 Discussion of internal injuries

    00:20:26 Discussion of injuries cased by falling out of a truck

    00:24:14 Talk about skull fractures 00:28:32 Discussion of brain fluid

    00:32:52 Discussion of broke teeth 00:36:03 Talk about animals and body on road

    00:37:52 Discussion of cervical injuries 00:40:00 Discussion of abrasions

    00:41:47 Talk about being hit by car

    00:43:59 Discussion of data

    00:44:17 Conclusion; After the autopsy we still don’t have answers

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    173 days, 100 feet: The Death of Valerie Tindall - "The Best of Body Bags" Jan 30, 2025
    Show notes

    A family moves to the country to get away from the crime of the big city only to find that evil exists in small towns and big cities alike. A 17-year-old girl develops a close bond to a harmless older neighbor, but the harmless old man is really a wolf in sheep's clothing and when the 17-year-old goes missing the neighbor helps look as hard as anyone. As long as nobody comes to his house to look too close. For 173 days the girl is missing, her heartbroken parents don't realize she is only 100 feet away from their front door. Buried in a homemade box, just for her.
    Joseph Scott Morgan breaks down the case of the teen girl hidden away in a homemade coffin and how difficult it will be to get the evidence to determine what really caused her death. Dave Mack joins in on the search for facts, and Valerie Tindall.

    Transcript
    00:01:02 Discussion of 173 days without knowing location of your child
    00:02:26 Valerie Tindall, 17, and missing
    00:03:29 Mother said Patrick Scott acted like jealous boyfriend
    00:04:21 Discussion of age difference
    00:06:55 Valerie Tindall is missing
    00:10:00 Talk about Forensic Anthropology
    00:11:28 Disturbed areas of soil in backyard
    00:12:30 17-year-old girl bonds with 59-year-old man, odd
    00:13:22 What does FBI mean to a case
    00:14:32 The neighbor Valerie has “bond” with charged with lying to police
    00:16:03 Discussion of providing false hope to lure out suspect
    00:17:24 Investigators wonder if someone is helping her stay gone
    00:18:29 Victim has been missing since June
    00:22:24 Bright Orange fingernail polish Valerie Tindall was wearing
    00:23:29 Taking down a structure, burning, why?
    00:27:17 Talk about the VHS tapes found in box
    00:29:11 Discussion of murder weapon, a belt
    00:30:56 Suspect claims he is the victim?
    00:32:29 Discussion about condition of the body
    00:33:39 Why did the suspect dig holes in his property?
    00:35:17 Talk about the story from the suspect does not make sense
    00:36:35 Some evidence might have been lost

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    12 Dead Bodies in 22 Months; Does Austin Have A Serial Killer? 'The Best of Body Bags' Jan 28, 2025
    Show notes

    At least 12 bodies have been pulled from "Lady Bird Lake" in Austin, Texas in the last 22 months. Some can be explained as deaths that happen on or near a lake, but not all. On this episode of Body Bags Joseph Scott Morgan will break down the difference between a regular death in a lake and a possible serial killer, while Dave Mack breaks down the stories behind the victims.

    Transcript Highlights00:16.18 Introduction about water and murder
    03:37.66 Discussion does Austin have a serial killer?
    08:13.12 Discussion what does "serial killer" do to an area
    13:22.11 Talk about other serial killers, were they really caught
    17:54.47 Talk about witnessing a death on the water
    22:03.17 Discussion of toxicology
    27:53.13 Discussion of victims
    32:38.32 Talk about water as a dumping ground
    36:26.16 Discussion of decomposition in water
    40:04.57 Talk about water flow
    47:42.83 Discussion about rumors over fact
    Conclusion

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    Murder or Self Defense Shocking New Info - Only Fans Model Covered in Blood "Best of Body Bags" Jan 23, 2025
    Show notes

    OnlyFans and Instagram model, Courtney Tailor, is rich and famous. She is living in a luxury high-rise in Edgewater, Miami, Florida and has banked over $3 Million dollars in the two years leading up to the death of her boyfriend, Christian Obumseli.
    Her real name is Courtney Clenney and she is charged with second-degree murder with a deadly weapon in the death of Christian Obumseli, 27, in her high-rise Miami-area apartment on April 3, 2022. Clenney claims she killed Obumseli in self-defense.
    Joseph Scott Morgan takes an up-close look at recently released information about what happened that fateful night and provides new insight into the death of Christian Obumseli. Was it self-defense or murder?

    Transcript Highlights

    00:00:00 Introduction of case - why would you throw your only weapon?

    00:02:00 A single stab wound by a thrown knife

    00:06:37 Courtney Clenney and boyfriend fought

    00:10:56 Funny stuff about throwing knives

    00:15:26 911 call, victim says "I'm going to die"

    00:19:43 Clenney claims she through kitchen knife from 10 feet away

    00:24:16 Discussion of laptop, text messages, email

    00:28:26 The Love of Money

    00:30:55 Courtney Clenney, drunk, approaches teen in parents neighborhood

    00:33:23 Conclusion – portent of things to come

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    Sex, Deception, and Murder: The Chilling Story of Shaye Groves and the Brutal Death of Frankie Fitzgerald - "Best of Body Bags" Jan 22, 2025
    Show notes

    In this episode of "Body Bags," we unravel the harrowing story of Shaye Groves, a woman consumed by her obsession with serial killers and ultimately implicated in the brutal murder of her boyfriend, Frankie Fitzgerald Delving into the chilling fascination that permeated her life and relationships, the hosts uncover the disturbing evidence that led to the gruesome crime. Hosts Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack explore the challenges investigators face when encountering an unfamiliar crime scene and the unsettling environment they discover including a macabre collection of serial killer images and the couple's history of violent, videotaped sex acts. They discuss Shaye Groves' possible premeditation of the murder, her manipulation and blackmail of previous partners through recorded sex acts, and her meticulous execution of the crime, such as using bleach to clean up the scene.

    Shownotes:

    00:20 - Intro to case.

    02:10 - Dave Mack gives background and overview of case.

    04:10 - What impact did having serial killer images in her home have on Shay Groves and her mindset?

    05:25 - The disturbing nature of Shay Groves' obsession and how it relates to the crime and her life.

    07:10 - Shay Groves and Frankie Fitzgerald's romantic relationship and Shaye's controlling nature.

    09:25 - Challenges investigators face when entering an unfamiliar crime scene and disturbing evidence and how their first impressions can impact their investigation.

    11:50 - The couple's history of violent sex acts captured on video and how this escalated.

    14:00 - The use of bleach in morgue cleanups and how the smell of bleach can linger, connecting it to the crime scene.

    15:10 - Possibility of Shea Groves planning the murder and the use of bleach to clean the crime scene.

    19:50 - Shea's obsession with serial killers, dark imagery, and the types of knives used in the murder.

    21:55 - JoScott talks about the differences between single-edged and double-edged knife wounds.

    24:40 - The catastrophic loss of blood that led to Frankie's death and Shaye’s possible motives and methods during the attack.

    26:40 - Determining if any wounds were inflicted post-mortem and whether the crime was a torture event or a dark fantasy acted out by Shaye.

    28:54 - Outro.

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    Sins of the Father: The Death of Dylan Redwine "The Best of Body Bags" Jan 21, 2025
    Show notes

    Dylan Redwine is forced to spend Thanksgiving with his father in Colorado. He doesn't want to be there because he knows some things about his father, secret, disgusting things, and he just doesn't want to be around him. But due to his parent divorce he has to go. Dylan Redwine goes missing, his dad suggests a bear might have got him. It takes time, but in the end, Forensics will tell the entire story of what happened to Dylan Redwine.Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they break down a story that took years to finish and includes blood, sex, knives, and bones.

    Time Code Highlights.

    00:01:40 Redwine Murder was one of the first Joseph Scott Morgan covered in media

    00:04:00 Dylan must go to his father’s house in Colorado for Thanksgiving

    00:05:08 Mark Redwine house burned down previously

    00:07:03 Discussion of children of divorce, Dylan did not want to be with his father

    00:08:20 Talk about pictures Dylan and his brother saw on their dad’s computer

    00:09:30 Joe talks the information he was given to cover story on network show

    00:11:03 Pictures of Mark Redwine in lingerie, makeup, eating out of diaper

    00:13:09 Joe tells story of being embarrassed comparing it to how Mark Redwine was embarrassed his children found out about secret pictures

    00:15:00 Discussion about the boys confronting their father over his pictures

    00:16:50 Talk about Mark Redwine responding to Corey about the pictures

    00:19:25 Joe talks about Mark Redwine being humiliated and angry

    00:20:45 Redwine claims he went to store, Dylan was gone when he got back

    00:21:35 Discussion about Corey Redwine being several years older than Dylan

    00:22:45 Talk about forensics and how nothing is ever hidden

    00:24:04 Joe talks about a dog finding blood in the home

    00:26:05 Blood from Dylan would have to have been from recent visit

    00:30:04 Joe talks about a murder case without a body

    00:31:00 Both femurs of Dylan Redwine found 8 miles from Mark Redwine home

    00:32:43 Bones found on a road could have been drug by an animal

    00:34:14 Determining whether the bones were separated by human using tools

    00:36:05 Talk about Mark Redwine mentioning something to a friend about blunt force trauma and they would need to find his head

    00:37:45 Dylan Redwine skull found

    00:39:00 No animals in the area that would drag remains up the mountain

    00:40:10 Talk about surface deposition

    00:41:05 Mark Redwine said Dylan may have been attacked by a bear.

    00:43:50 What the skull tells investigators. Took several months to identify

    00:45:12 Joe explains using sinus for identification

    00:46:45 Skull fractures show blunt force trauma. Two linear marks consistent with a knife blade found on skull.

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    Teen Missing Two Months, Found Naked, Shot in Back of Head "Best of Body Bags" Jan 16, 2025
    Show notes

    Recorded LIVE at CrimeCon Nashville, 2024:In this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan explains how he challenges his class at Jacksonville State University to try and solve a cold case. Two years in a row, two different classes and students chose the unsolved murder of Blake Chappell. Blake Chappell tells his mother he is having the best night of his life with his girlfriend at the East Coweta High School Homecoming Dance.Within a matter of hours, Blake will find himself chased out of his girlfriend’s house in the middle of the night, walking down the road at 5 a.m. texting his girlfriend, and telling her police just stopped and talked to him. One last text to his girlfriend that he is getting cold, and his phone goes quiet.Blake Chappell is 17 and he never makes it back to his friend’s house. He just vanishes into thin air. It is October 16, 2011. Two months later on December 17, 2011, his nearly naked body is found floating in a creek, he has been shot in the back of the head.The case is still unsolved. But new search warrants were served in March 2024, will there be justice for Blake Chappell?

    Transcript Highlights

    00:00:13 Introduction Blake Chappel Case

    00:04:40 Discuss of family financial issues

    00:08:28 Blake finds ex-girlfriend who ran away

    00:10:32 Blake beaten up by ex’s stepfather

    00:12:26 Blake put in jail for finding his ex

    00:17:35 Mother takes Blake and date to homecoming dance

    00:20:48 Discussion of Blake activities walking in the night

    00:24:24 Talk about Blake walking miles to see girlfriend

    00:28:08 Talk about Blake texting girlfriend

    00:31:49 Talk about Blake doesn’t make it back to Austin’s house

    00:37:36 Discussion Blake shot in back of head

    00:43:22 Discussion rumors about Blake’s death

    00:48:12 Discussion Blake found wearing underwear, no shoes

    00:52:34 Conclusion Joseph Scott Morgan lets his JSU class pick unsolved crime to solve Two years in a row the case of Blake Chappel is chosen for the project

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