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    Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

    Join Joseph Scott Morgan every week as he explores a world that not many have had a chance to visit, the realm of death. Jo Scott will lead listeners on a journey through the blood soaked death scenes of America and then into the autopsy room to fully understand the science behind each case. Jo Scott is one America’s leading experts on applied forensics and is regularly featured on ‘Crime Stories with Nancy Grace’, ‘The Piketon Massacre’, Court TV and more.

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    Hospital Hides Body In Warehouse While Mom Searches For Missing Daughter Mar 26, 2025
    Show notes

    Jessie Marie Peterson, 31, an attorney with Type One Diabetes, is admitted to the hospital for a diabetes-related illness.
    Two days later, she calls her mother around 2:30 p.m. and asks her to come pick her up and take her home. When her mother shows up two-hours later, she is told that Jessie Marie Peterson checked herself out of the hospital, Against Medical Advice (AMA).
    Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack take a close look at what really happened to Jessie Marie Peterson and why was her mother told she had checked out, when according to their own records, she was pronounced dead at 4:27 p.m. at the medical center.
    While the family spent over a year looking for Jessie, her body had been sitting in a storage facility.

    Transcript Highlights

    00:05.18 Introduction

    01:59.25 Hospital tells family patient left AMA

    06:53.65 Family is looking for Jessie Peterson, attorney

    11:48.34 Jessie is ready to leave hospital, accomplished woman

    16:11.54 Lawsuit filed

    21:10.19 She calls her mother at 2:30, two hours later she is gone

    25:20.07 Hospital claims she left AMA

    30:22.43 Mother begins looking for Jessie

    35:15.51 Jessie Marie Peterson was dead and for a year the family is looking for Jessie

    40:06.21 Body is placed into cold storage

    45:08.31 Her body is found after a year, remains are not viewable

    49:01.24 Conclusion

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    Satanist Murders Two, Eats Ears, Drinks Blood From Coffee Cup Mar 25, 2025
    Show notes

    Jared Ondrea, 22, and Deshea Butler, 35, are both living in a halfway house in South Carolina when Marc-Anthony Cantrell is placed in the home. Jared Ondrea goes missing and a search fails to find the young man who was trying to learn to live on his own as an adult. Five months later, Deshea Butler goes missing, and this time when police begin searching they find security footage of Marc-Anthony Cantrell carrying what appears to be the body of Butler out of the house. Confronted with the information, Cantrell confesses to killing both men, and adds some information not everyone was ready to hear. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack take a look at what it was like to have a person called a "Budding Serial Killer" as a roommate in a halfway house. Joe will also explain how the devil worshiping man with tattoos of devil horns, could remove enough blood from one of his victims to drink it from a coffee cup for a week.

    Transcript Highlights

    00:20.04 Introduction

    02:34.85 Marc-Anthony Cantrell, 26, satanist, called a budding serial killer

    09:13.65 Two murders in South Carolina

    14:44.86 Grandmother of Jared Ondrea files suit

    19:28.08 Jared Ondrea, 22, body hasn't been found

    24:21.46 Orders of Protective custody in New Orleans

    29:07.42 People in need of help, not getting it

    33:11.64 Why has this story stayed under the radar for two years

    37:22.67 Removing the ears, ritualized

    44:20.51 Conclusion

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    Cartel Concentration Camp Crematory Uncovered In Mexico Mar 20, 2025
    Show notes

    Families and friends looking for answers about what happened to their loved ones who vanished. A volunteer group uncovers a site that looks like a concentration camp out of WW2, but it is in 2025 Mexico! Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack take an up close look at what was found, including three underground ovens used for cremating bodies. Joe explains the forensics in trying to identify some of the souls whose remains, are now cremains.

    Transcript Highlights
    00:00.03 Introduction

    02:38.66 Disposal of human beings like WW2 Concentration camps

    06:53.11 Since 1962, 120,000 people have gone missing in Mexico

    11:09.42 Amongst the horror, children's toys are found

    16:44.94 Volunteers using methods that are not very high tech

    21:33.74 Looking for markers in the ground

    26:36.78 Look for bodies by poking the ground

    31:12.08 Piles of shoes at the Holocaust museum

    35:03.34 Conclusion

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    SOLVED! 35-Year Double Murder Cold Case CONVICTION  Mar 19, 2025
    Show notes

    Kenneth Perry thought he got away with the rape and murder of Pamela Sumter and the murder of her brother, John Sumter. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack dive into a case that remained unsolved for over 30 years but was eventually solved by a combination of good detective work and brilliant DNA work done by Othram labs. Check out www.dnasolves.com to find out how you can help. Joe explains the crime scene and how investigators were able to use a "dying declaration" to get justice for Pamela and John Sumter,
    Kenneth Perry was convicted of the rape and murder of Pamela Sumter and the murder of her brother, John Sumter. He was sentenced on March 18, 2025 to three consecutive life sentences, plus 100 years in custody.

    Transcribe Highlights
    00:00:01.81 Introduction - Malignant Heart

    00:03:19.67 Othram solving the cold cases

    00:05:53.64 Unsolved case of double homicide

    00:09:47.60 DNA And "dying declaration"

    00:14:12.53 Why Would some die after surviving two weeks

    00:20:48.31 Early days of genetic material of sex offenders

    00:25:18.44 Pattern wear of shoe providing evidence

    00:30:01.82 Determining knife, double edge or single edge

    00:36:23.44 Learning about DNA watching the OJ Trial

    00:41:31.50 Crowdfunding and Access to grant writers

    00:46:05.88 Suspect is now 56, got DNA sample that matched victims in Ga and Detroit

    00:49:01.54 Othram helping solve cold cases

    00:53:02.29 Conclusion

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    Teen Shoots Dad To Death, Stabs Mom To Death: Who Is Collin Griffith? Mar 18, 2025
    Show notes

    Collin Griffith shoots his father to death at 15 and claims self-defense. 18-months later, Collin Griffith kills his mother, he is now 17 and claims self-defense again. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack take on the story of the teen who killed both of his parents, in different states and in different years and used two different types of weapons to kill his parents and claims self-defense. It is a story can only be understood when the forensic evidence is brought to the front. Collin Griffith, 15, is charged with killing his father on February 14, 2023 in Oklahoma. Judge drops charges. Same teen, now 17, charged with killing his mother September 8, 2024, jury decision Not Guilty. What Happened!

    Transcript Highlights00:00.23 Introduction

    03:04.77 The Fickle Finger of Fate, defined

    04:59.94 Boys kills dad when he is 15 and mother when he is 1709:53.26 The prosecution walking a tight wire talking about age of suspect

    15:44.30 Finding a weapon doesn't tell the whole story

    20:25.10 Kills dad with a gun, claims self-defense

    25:42.92 Judge drops the charges against the boy30:23.32 How does a teen kill both parents, time and distance apart35:22.38 What evidence is left behind in the blood40:13.23 Griffith claims long fight leading up to fatal injury

    43:03.56 Conclusion

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    Alone, Hungry, Thirsty and Lost: The Final Days of Gene Hackman Mar 13, 2025
    Show notes

    Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the latest information regarding the death of Gene Hackman and his wife, Betsy Arakawa. Their deaths have been called "suspicious" by some in the press, but Joe Scott explains what actually happened and why their deaths, while shocking and sad, are not suspicious.


    Transcribe Highlights

    00:00.90 Introduction - The Death of Gene Hackman

    03:40.86 Gene Hackman found in "Mud Room" and wife found in Bathroom with pills spilled around her

    08:59.26 Dog found dead in bathroom had some type of treatment at the vet

    14:09.85 Actors with dementia trying to perform

    19:03.30 Gene Hackman was totally dependent on his wife

    24:31.11 What does "mummify" mean

    28:59.43 Gene Hackman's wife died from Hantavirus

    33:23.47 Hantavirus is spread by rodents

    39:08.17 Gene Hackman didn't drink any water or eat any food days leading up to his death

    41:44.62 Conclusion

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    "Mad Scientist" and Drug Dealer Charged in Deaths of KC Chiefs Fans Mar 12, 2025
    Show notes

    January 9, 2024, three Kansas City Chiefs football fans were found dead in the snow outside their friend's house where they got together to watch the game between the Chiefs and the Chargers on January 7. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack update the case with the recent arrests of Jordan Willis and Ivory Carson, both charged with three counts of Involuntary Manslaughter and two counts of delivery of a controlled substance.

    Transcribe Highlights
    00:07.65 Introduction - Intentions

    04:06.26 Mixing chemicals in high school

    10:03.72 Mixing Cocaine with fentanyl

    15:00.84 Three men are found dead outside, one asleep inside. No foul play?
    20:00.46 Homicide or accidental death

    24:00.14 Did the three men go outside for a smoke?

    29:08.22 How the men were found

    34:18.27 Police know how to get information

    39:08.15 Intention

    42:13.77 Conclusion

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    Double Murderer Executed by Firing Squad. Why? Mar 11, 2025
    Show notes


    Brad Sigmon was sentenced to death in South Carolina for the double murder of his ex-girlfriend's parents, David and Gladys Larke. He confessed to killing both of them with a baseball bat, then attempted to kidnap his ex-girlfriend, Rebecca Barbare, using a gun stolen from David Larke. Barbare jumped from a moving car and ran to escape Sigmon. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the crimes that led to the confession, conviction, and ultimate sentencing to death of Brad Sigmon, and how Sigmon's own protest over lethal injection caused him to be put to death by firing squad

    Transcript Highlights

    00:00.06 Introduction

    02:05.23 Double murder with a baseball bat

    05:03.73 Description of injuries caused by baseball bat to the face

    10:06.12 Talk about Brad Sigmon

    14:55.81 Sigmon uses bat to kill both parents of girlfriend

    20:09.81 Joseph talks about "Paths of Glory" - movie

    31:31.60 Military executions

    36:12.67 Discussion of execution methods in USA

    41:40.28 Conclusion

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    An Unhappy Anniversary - The Death of Emily Jean Schwartz Mar 06, 2025
    Show notes

    On a camping trip to celebrate their one-year wedding anniversary, Joseph Ferlazzo, 42, and his wife, Emily Jean Schwartz, 22, get into an argument. This much is understood.

    Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the case and the evidence that will reveal who is telling the truth—the prosecution or the defense. The defense claims the couple argued, and Emily stormed out of the converted bus, never to be seen again.

    Prosecutors allege that Ferlazzo shot his wife twice in the head and dismembered her on the bus.

    Transcribe highlights

    00:00.00 Introduction

    03:29.92 Sharing camping stories

    08:00.53 Husband twice as old as wife

    14:20.33 Returns home without wife

    19:16.42 Relax by getting away

    24:26.58 Wife is supposedly in the woods, alone for days

    28:35.69 Husband claims he is the victim

    33:06.37 Dismembering the body

    37:49.67 Father's wife died, never charged

    41:25.68 Conclusion

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    Brother Eats Brother's Eyeball After Allegedly Killing Him with Golf Club Mar 05, 2025
    Show notes

    The Hertgen family is wealthy and full of athletes. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack take a look at the family dynamic that led to one brother allegedly murdering his younger brother, taking out his eyeball and possibly sitting down to a dinner of "brother's eyeball". Joe explains what takes place removing an eyeball and how investigators determine a golf club was used in the murder.


    Transcript Highlights

    00:00.03 Introduction

    02:55.32 Did Brother take eyeball out of brother

    08:20.08 Cat is also dead

    13:03.60 questions about crime scenes

    18:05.90 First documented murder

    23:42.72 Cannibalism

    29:31.53 1500 story of incest and cannibalism

    34:29.38 Golf club used as weapon

    39:54.92 Removing an eyeball

    44:03.91 Conclusion

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