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    Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

    Join Joseph Scott Morgan every week as he explores a world that not many have had a chance to visit, the realm of death. Jo Scott will lead listeners on a journey through the blood soaked death scenes of America and then into the autopsy room to fully understand the science behind each case. Jo Scott is one America’s leading experts on applied forensics and is regularly featured on ‘Crime Stories with Nancy Grace’, ‘The Piketon Massacre’, Court TV and more.

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    Dismemberment and the Desecration of the Dead Body Bags Live at CrimeCon 2023 "The Best of Body Bags" Jan 15, 2025
    Show notes

    Over the last few years, more and more death scenes involve dismemberment.An "obsessed" true crime fan in South Korea thinks she can pull off the perfect murder, so how did Jung Yoo-Jung get caught? Taylor Schabusiness tells police she doesn't remember strangling her boyfriend, but it felt good. She leaves his severed head in a bucket for his mother to find.And in Tennessee, prosecutors say Joel Guy Jr created a "diabolical stew of human remains" with his mother's head when he finds out his parents are cutting him off.Joseph Scott Morgan breaks down the forensics and Dave Mack keeps the stories moving in this fast-paced edition of Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan in front of a live audience at CrimeCon 2023 in Orlando, Florida

    Time Code Highlights.

    00:02:50 South Korean Woman Jung Yoo-Jung is said to be an obsessed crime fan

    00:03:17 Discussion of how 23-year-old woman pretends to be a 14-year-old school girl

    00:04:19 Jung Yoo-jung wants to commit a homicide and dismember the victim to try and get away with murder..

    00:05:33 Her plan is to kill, dismember, and dispose of the victim.

    00:06:27 Talks about the tools needed to do the job she wants to do

    00:10:19 What would she used to clean up the area?

    00:12:00 Talk about Gilgo and Rex Heuermann

    00:12:44 Talking about the getaway and getting rid of the remains

    00:12:57 To commit the perfect crime she uses a cab as a getaway car, leads to her capture

    00:14:39 Joseph Scott Morgan tells story of transporting a head as a young man working in New Orleans with the coroner.

    00:15:52 Under no circumstances are you to allow this bot this head out of your sight. 00:16:23 Had to use a cooler with ice to transport the head

    00:18:40 Discussion about Taylor Schabusiness case.

    00:19:14 The mother of the victim finds his head in bucket

    00:20:20 Discussion of the relationship between suspect and victim

    00:21:56 Schabusiness told police she didn't remember strangling him, but she remembered liking it.

    00:23:16 She told police, you found this part of him, good luck finding the rest

    00:25:48 Discussion about the types of knives needed to do what was done to the victim

    00:27:46 Talk about the forensics of different types of blades

    00:30:47 Joe Scott Morgan talks about the time it takes to dismember a body

    00:32:09 Joel Guy Jr, created a game plan for what he was going to do to his parents

    00:32:23 Discussion about Joel Guy Jr and why he killed his parents

    00:34:18 Joel Guy Jr stabbed his parents to death, then cut them up.

    00:35:04 Talk about police interrupted Joel Guy Jr and found his "list" of things to do

    00:39:42 Discussion of the medical examiner at the trial

    00:40:09 Talk about anti-mortem and post-mortem

    00:43:11 Joseph Scott Morgan explains the way a body can be disarticulated

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    Live From CrimeCon Las Vegas The Death of Ellen Greenberg "The Best of Body Bags " Jan 14, 2025
    Show notes

    Recorded live in front of a studio audience at CrimeCon in Las Vegas, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan re-examines the injuries to Ellen Greenberg. The teacher and soon-to-be-bride, is found death in her apartment with more than 20 stab wounds, and her death is ruled a suicide.

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    The Ransom Note and Non-Kidnapping Murder of JonBenet Ramsey Jan 09, 2025
    Show notes

    A final look at items brought up in the recent Netflix documentary about JonBenet Ramsey and her death. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack talk about the crime scene with Joe breaking down the mistakes that were made and how they have nothing to do with technology. Also, a question that has never been answered regarding the "ransom" note. What type of "kidnapper" kills the person and leaves a "ransom" note? Who would pay a "ransom" for the "safe return" of a loved one when the "loved one" is already dead and in the house?

    Transcribe Highlights
    00:00.41 Introduction

    02:00.28 No excuses for evidence mistakes

    04:54.75 Never Ask Father of missing 6-year-old search the house

    10:06.27 The physical things seen in strangling

    14:34.80 Why leave the body AND ransom note

    19:53.52 Why ask for $118,000?

    24:28.50 The reason for the ransom note is dead

    29:07.64 JonBenet was beaten, skull was fractured

    32:10.35 Conclusion

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    Burned To Death After 10 Hours Locked In Storage Unit: The Death of Corrine Abosamra Jan 08, 2025
    Show notes

    A fire was reported November 7th, 2024, at Broadmoor Self-Storage in Kentwood, Michigan. Firefighters cut the lock off unit 454, and discovered the body of Corinne Abosamra. Morgan Wingeier rented a storage unit at Broadmoor Self-Storage and allowed Corinne Abosamra to live in the unit. On the day of the fire, Wingeier left Abosamra in the unit and locked it with a pad lock on the outside. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss what is known so far about the death of Abosamra and look closely at the evidence to see if it leads to accident or murder.

    Transcribe Highlights

    00:00.41 Introduction

    02:00.28 Renting a Storage Unit

    04:54.75 At a fire scene, everything looks the same

    09:06.27 Would someone rent a storage unit to render down a body

    14:34.80 Finding charred remains in the storage unit

    19:53.52 Did Morgan Wingeier forget she locked Abosamra in storage unit

    24:28.50 Victim was in the unit for 10 hours before fire was seen

    29:07.64 Wingeier didn't return to the storage unit

    34:10.35 Heat coming off a fire, no escape

    39:47.36 Conclusion

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    SHOCKING SENTENCE: Possible Parole for Architect of Piketon Massacre  Jan 07, 2025
    Show notes

    This is a story of the Wagner family and the Rhoden family. Jake Wagner and Hanna Rhoden began dating when Hanna was 13 and Jake was 18. Hanna became pregnant with Jake's baby when she was 15. Those who knew Jake Wagner and Hanna Rhoden said that Jake Wagner was very controlling and had been verbally and physically abusive to Hanna. Hanna Rhoden broke up with Jake Wagner and they both dated other people. Hanna had a child with another man and Jake Wagner married another woman, briefly. The Wagner family wanted custody of Sophia and accused Hanna Rhoden of dating men that might sexually assault Sophia. There was no proof this was the case, but it fueled the rage in the Wagner family toward Hanna Rhoden. When the Wagner's tried to force Hanna Rhoden to sign papers to turn custody of Sophia over to Jake Wagner, she refused and posted a message on Facebook that she would “never sign papers ever. They will have to kill me first.” That is when the Wagner family decided to kill Hanna Rhoden, as well as her relatives so that custody would fall to them. Jake Wagner allegedly began a relationship with Hanna Rhoden when she was 13, impregnating her when she was 15 and he was 20. In addition to homicide, he has been charged with unlawful sexual conduct with a minor. After she ended the relationship, prosecutors say, he began threatening her.The bodies of the Rhoden family members were first discovered on the morning of April 22, 2016 by Bobby Jo Manley, the ex-sister of Chris Rhoden Sr.There were four locations and eight victims, all killed in one night. The victims were: Hannah Hazel Gilley, 20, Clarence “Frankie” Rhoden, 20, Hanna May Rhoden, 19, Dana Lynn Manley Rhoden, 37, Christopher Don Rhoden Jr., 16, Christopher Don Rhoden Sr., 40, Gary Dwayne Rhoden, 38, and Kenneth Wayne Rhoden, 44.

    Pike County Massacre - sentencing

    Confessed killer gets life in prison with chance for parole

    Angela Wagner - 30 years with possibility of parole (credited with six years and six weeks served)

    Jake Wagner sentenced to Life with Possibility of Parole after 32 years

    Rita Newcomb sentenced to 5 years of probation and $750 fine

    Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack talk about some of the decisions that have been made in the case of the Piketon Massacre. Breaking down the crimes of the night, four locations in one night, wiping out generations of one family, moving an infant child next to the bosom of his dead mother so the baby can suckle if he gets hungry. Joe explains each crime scene to help explain what type of planning was required.

    Piketon Massacre
    Transcript Highlights

    00:00.01 Introduction

    02:55.22 Sentencing at Piketon

    06:05.91 Mother was the Puppetmaster

    10:12.49 Not a death penalty case

    15:21.13 Hannah was 13 when she began dating Jake

    20:01.28 Hannah says "I'm never signing any papers

    25:29.20 Mother bought new shoes at Walmart

    30:29.13 Angela Wagner hung baskets in kitchen

    34:57.12 Piketon Massacre sentencing

    40:35.65 Is this really the best outcome

    46:06.07 Conclusion

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    Top Three Most Downloaded Episodes of "Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan" Part Three Jan 03, 2025
    Show notes

    The top 3 most downloaded episodes of "Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan" over the last year:
    # 3 SHOCKING Crime Scene Photos Tell New Story About Gypsy Rose
    # 2 Missing Mom Murder Trial: Blood Evidence Could Prove She's Not Missing
    # 1 Evil Has a Tattoo Face: The Death of Two Women

    Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack talk about the most downloaded episodes of Body Bags and add some new information and theories to some of the most downloaded episodes of the last year.


    Transcribe Highlights

    00:00.13 Introduction

    00:37.20 Top Three Most Downloaded, #3 Gypsy Rose Blanchard

    06:01.07 Dee Dee Blanchard, hoarder, claims she and Gypsy Rose are refugees from Katrina

    11:14.91 Dee Dee Blanchard was a big woman

    13:21.58 Number Two most downloaded show

    18:51.02 Early on Jennifer Dulos reported missing

    23:20.33 Body of Jennifer Dulos has not been found

    28:15.87 Wade Wilson - Tattoo Face

    33:40.07 Not Deadpool- Wilson charged with two murders

    38:33.79 Wilson Case gets attention because of tattoos

    40:38.31 Wilson Dad believed he would kill again

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    Top 10 Most Downloaded Episodes of "Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan" Part Two Jan 02, 2025
    Show notes

    The top 10 Countdown of most downloaded episodes of "Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan" continues with episodes Six, Five, and Four:

    6. Missing 2-years Before Anyone Looked; What Happened to Harmony Montgomery
    5. Murder of Suicide? The Death of Jeffrey Epstein
    4. The House is Gone; The Idaho Student Murders

    Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack review each of the shows with a critical eye toward new information as well as taking a closer look at decisions made in the cases.


    00:00.51 Introduction

    02:45.81 Harmony Montgomery, missing

    08:38.57 Harmony missing two years before anyone said anything

    11:49.64 Adam Montgomery hits Harmony and kills her

    18:38.50 Jeffry Epstein, underage girls from Europe

    23:14.67 Epstein and Maxwell - what happened to the girls

    28:21.02 Hanging as suicide vs judicial hanging

    33:40.07 Why are there two pronounced marks on Epstein neck

    38:19.47 Time and location - Tearing down Idaho Student murder house

    42:22.67 How important is seeing the actual physical scene of the crime

    48:36.71 Is there any downside to leaving house until after trial

    52:26.83 Conclusion - Coming up the top three

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    Top 10 Most Downloaded Episodes of  "Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan" Part One Jan 01, 2025
    Show notes

    January 1, 2025 WednesdayWe start off the new year by taking a look at the top 10 most downloaded shows of the last year. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack talk about the shows and provide updated information and new forensic information that has come out since the episodes were first recorded. This first episode covers from number Ten to number Seven:#10 SHOCKING AUTOPSY: Who or What Killed Noah Presgrove?# 9. The New Epidemic: Fentanyl# 8. Married Couple Missing 3 Weeks, The Torture death of the Josephs# 7. The Monster is Real: Dad's New Girlfriend Kills Baby with Nail Polish Remover."


    Transcribe Highlights

    00:00.13 Introduction
    01:28.03 The death of Noah Presgrove
    05:27.26 Description of skull fracture
    10:05.70 Moving a body - intent? Was Noah pushed out of vehicle
    15:06.89 Fentanyl - not naturally occurring
    19:15.88 Babies explore the world with their hands
    24:14.86 The Tortue death of the Josephs
    29:21.59 Two kettle bells purchased at Walmart
    34:03.29 "The Monster is Real: Dad's New Girlfriend Kills Baby with Nail Polish Remover"
    39:53.50 Conclusion

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    The Mansion Murder Mystery | The Homicide of Dr. Devon Hoover - "The Best Of Body Bags" Dec 31, 2024
    Show notes

    In this episode of the Body Bags, hosts Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack unpack the chilling homicide of famed neurosurgeon Dr. Devon Hoover, who was found in his Detroit mansion. They discuss the details of the murder, the physical evidence, the complexities of the gunshot wounds, the forensics, and theorize about the identity of the murderer and their familiarity with the residence.

    Time-codes: 00:00 - Introduction.

    01:20 - Dr. Devon Hoover.

    02:45 - of Dr. Hoover's grand home and his profession.

    05:30 - The demanding path to neurosurgery.

    07:40 - Skills required for neurosurgery.

    08:10 - Dr. Hoover's personality and devotion to work.

    0:00 - Introduction to "crawlspace" in relation to the murder.

    12:15 - Discovery of Dr. Hoover's body in the attic crawlspace.

    13:00 - Peculiarities in the murder scene.

    15:30 - Postmortem changes and body positioning.

    16:40 - Importance of postmortem interval in the case.

    17:15 - Speculation on potential suspects and motives.

    18:55 - Dr. Hoover's attic.

    20:00 - Forensic analysis of Dr. Hoover's gunshot wounds and the intimate nature of the crime.

    23:20 - Evidence suggesting the perpetrator's familiarity with the house.

    26:10 - Detailed impact of a close-range gunshot wound.

    28:30 - Examination of the array of forensic tests.

    30:30 - Observations indicating the murderer might be known to the victim, such as lack of forced entry.

    31:05 - Perpetrator's meticulous body cover-up, suggesting a personal connection.

    32:55 - Outro.

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    The Body Bags Ballad of Bonnie and Clyde: The "Best of Body Bags" Dec 30, 2024
    Show notes

    Bonnie and Clyde killed at least nine police officers and four civilians during their 21-month crime spree from 1932 to 1934. The couple were also responsible for several Bank robberies, gas stations hold-ups , and burglaries. They weren't very good thieves, as they rarely got away with more than $80. In this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how Bonnie Parker suffered so many bullet holes her body had to be plugged to hold embalming fluid, and Dave Mack will take you behind the scenes in the woods with Frank Hamer and Manny Gault as they brought down the murderous "Bonnie and Clyde".

    Transcript Highlights

    00:00:10 Introduction of human destruction

    00:02:09 Description of Bienville Parish

    00:05:24 Description of Bonnie and Clyde car on display

    00:08:14 Discussion Bonnie 23, Clyde 25

    00:11:15 Talk about Bonnie and Clyde murder young cop

    00:15:11 Discussion about State Coroners convention

    00:18:05 Discussion about transcribing

    00:21:32 Talk about Bonnie and Clyde murdering cops

    00:25:57 Discussion of BB Episode about Coroner system

    00:28:21 Talk about autopsy of famous people

    00:31:41 Discussion of Dr. Wade and others at the autopsy

    00:35:00 Discussion of injuries suffered by Bonnie Parker

    00:37:42 Conclusion: Bonnie and Clyde meet their end

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