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Behind the Markets Podcast

Jeremy Schwartz, Global Chief Investment Officer at WisdomTree and Jeremy Siegel, professor of finance at Wharton and author of Stocks for the Long Run, host this long-running podcast that dives into the how and why of market performance with leading economists and market strategists to inform you what’s ahead for the economy and your portfolio.
Regularly joining the two Jeremys is the Deep Rooted Macro Team that decodes the forces shaping markets and portfolios worldwide.
Chris Gannatti, CFA, Global Head of Research, offers an analytical and thematic edge—bridging macro trends with on-the-ground technology and innovation. Whether unpacking the infrastructure powering the AI age or latest biotech breakthroughs, Chris translates complexity into conviction.
Jeff Weniger, CFA, Head of Equity Strategy, injects the pulse of behavioral markets and valuation discipline. With sharp macro instincts, Jeff dissects cycles, sentiment, and structural change with trademark clarity and wit.
Sam Rines, Macro Strategist for Model Portfolios, ties the threads together—linking policy, politics, and portfolio construction. His pragmatic macro lens captures how geopolitics, industrial policy, and energy dynamics flow into real-world GeoAlpha.
Together, the Deep Rooted Macro squad creates a fusion of rigorous research, accessible insights, and genuine debate.
Behind the Markets provides a regular masterclass in how the world really works beneath the surface of prices, data, and headlines. Tune in to hear where the Deep Rooted Macro team sees the next big shifts taking root.

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Behind the Markets Podcast: Dan Ives Mar 29, 2024

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Show from 03/29/24 Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel begin this holiday weekend with positive reflections on the market. Inflation numbers came out as expected. The Prof notes a surprise rise in personal spending and a decline in the housing prices. (7:20) Dan joins Jeremy and Chris Gannatti to discuss where we are in the current tech cycle. The group talks about the Metaverse, AI development and collaborations between Google and Apple. Jeremy asks if they think there will be competition in the infrastructure as time goes on. The three discuss the potential benefits companies get by investing in Nvidia. Dan and Chris also comment on overseas risks involved with tech and lack of demand from Asia. Guest: Daniel Ives is a Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst covering the Technology sector at Wedbush Securities since 2018. Dan has been a tech analyst on Wall Street for over two decades covering the software and the broader technology sector. He spent the first few years of his career as a financial analyst at HBO and then received his MBA in Finance before becoming a globally known technology equity research analyst and Managing Director with FBR Capital Markets for 16 years, focusing on the enterprise software/hardware sectors including cyber security, cloud computing, big data technology, and the mobile landscape. A major area of his research focus is electric vehicles and disruptive technology over the next decade. Learn more about Dan at: https://www.wedbush.com/analysts/daniel-ives/ Follow Dan on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/daniel-ives-542321a8 Chris Gannatti is Head of Research at WisdomTree Europe Follow him on x(Twitter): @CGannatti

Behind the Markets Podcast: David Rosenberg Mar 21, 2024

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Show from 03/22/24 Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel discuss this week's market and Powels dovish announcement. The Prof states that the Fed believes trends are decreasing however he feels the economy is still moving along nicely. He notes that deflationary forces have begun to ease up. David joins to give his market opinion alongside the Prof as the two discuss their opposing views. (23:42) David continues with Jeremy to talk about how he forecasts the market with his business. Jeremy asks David about consumer sales and how it’s affecting some of the luxury brands. David touches on topics like the employment report, and recent comments from Bullard. He gives his case on why he loves the Japanese Market. David also talks about India as another alternative market to China. Guest: David is the Founder and President of Rosenberg Research. Prior to Rosenberg Research, David was Chief Economist & Strategist at Gluskin Sheff + Associates Inc. from 2009 to 2019. From 2002 to 2009, he was Chief North American Economist at Merrill Lynch in New York. During this time, he was consistently ranked in the Institutional Investor All-Star analyst rankings. Prior thereto, he was Chief Economist and Strategist for Merrill Lynch Canada, based out of Toronto, where he and his team placed first in the Brendan Wood survey of Canadian economists for ten years in a row. Mr. Rosenberg is a frequent contributor to major financial newspapers and publications in North America and makes regular TV appearances in the financial media. He received both a Bachelor of Arts and Master of Arts degree in Economics from the University of Toronto. Learn more about David at: https://www.rosenbergresearch.com/ Follow David on X(Twitter): @EconguyRosie

Behind the Markets Podcast: Thomas Capasse Mar 15, 2024

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Show from 03/15/24 Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel dig in this week on the most current market information, starting off by talking about the CPI and PPI outcomes. The Prof states the market seems to have bottomed out and is not going lower. Tom and Professor Seigel agree that the commercial real estate market has really suffered. (13:31) Jeremy continues on with Tom who gives us a breakdown of what Ready Capital is all about. Tom talks through a normal transaction cycle and explains bridge financing. He comments on how interest rates have impacted the commercial real estate market. Jeremy asks about commercial mortgage REITs and the discounts people are seeing. Tom also gives us more details on how their SBA loans work and what pressures he sees in the banking community. Guest: Thomas Capasse serves as Chairman of our board of directors, Chief Executive Officer, and Chief Investment Officer. Mr. Capasse is also a Principal and co-founder of Ready Capital’s external manager, Waterfall Asset Management, LLC. Prior to founding our Manager, Mr. Capasse managed the principal finance groups at Greenwich Capital from 1995 until 1997, Nomura Securities from 1997 until 2001, and Macquarie Securities from 2001 until 2004. Mr. Capasse has significant and long standing experience in the securitization market as a founding member of Merrill Lynch’s ABS Group (1983—1994) with a focus on MBS transactions (including the initial Subprime Mortgage and Manufactured Housing ABS) and experience in many other ABS sectors. Mr. Capasse began his career as a fixed income analyst at Dean Witter and Bank of Boston. Mr. Capasse received a Bachelor of Arts degree in Economics from Bowdoin College in 1979. Learn more about Thomas at: https://readycapital.com/professionals/thomas-capasse/ Follow Thomas on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/tom-capasse-6470782

Behind the Markets Podcast: Art Berman Mar 08, 2024

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Show from 03/08/24 Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel begin by discussing this week's exciting market moves. The Prof says this week’s employment report is very good, revising the shocking report from January. He continues by diving into the Nvidia stock and his 10 year prediction confirmation. (11:17) Art joins Jeremy to discuss everything oil and energy. He begins by talking about energy blindness and energies overall underrepresentation in economic importance. Jeremy asks about natural gas, its excess production and Europe's involvement. The two discuss the Bakken break-even, if technology will increase production and drilling wells too close together. Art also talks about renewables and policies we are exploring that might not be the best. Guest: Art Berman is an energy consultant with 40 years in petroleum geology and a degree in Middle Eastern history. His comparative inventory approach is a guiding light for traders, investors, and policymakers. Art is an adjunct lecturer at the University of Houston, an expert witness, and a keynote speaker. His clientele spans from ambitious investors to globe-spanning corporations. Learn more about Art at: https://www.artberman.com Follow Art on X(Twitter): @aeberman12

Behind the Markets Podcast: Jared Dillian Mar 01, 2024

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Show from 03/01/24 Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel begin with an old saying “make the trend your friend”. The Prof gives us a detailed look at this week's market data. He continues talking about the interview he listened to of Austan Goolsbee. (11:41) Jeremy is joined by Jared as they discuss his book and current opinions on today's market. Jared goes into detail about his book on personal financing and why he decided to write about a stress free balanced approach rather than extreme suggestions. Jared emphasizes the fun of making more money instead of cutting expenses. He covers many topics from the housing market to car purchases and how it affects personal finances. Jared also covers student loans, saving and investing, holding onto gold and why bitcoin doesn’t work with his model. Guest: Jared Dillian is a writer, author, DJ, and speaker. His newsletters include The Daily Dirtnap, a daily market newsletter for investment professionals, and We’re Gonna Get Those Bastards, which is about everything that is depraved, especially finance, culture, music and sex. His books include Street Freak, All the Evil of This World, Those Bastards, and No Worries. Learn more about Jared at: https://www.jareddillian.com/ Follow Jared on X(Twitter): @dailydirtnap

Behind the Markets Podcast: Charles-Henry Monchau Feb 22, 2024

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Show from 02/23/24 Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel jump right in to talk about the blow out week for tech. The Prof touches base on the job markets decrease and the mention of rate cuts by the Fed. Nvidia brought the entire tech stock back up this week with their demand for semiconductors. The Prof does not think that this is a bubble and that the evaluation of Nvidia is correct. (9:35) Jeremy is joined this week by Charles, CIO of Syz Group. The two continue by discussing the rise in tech in comparison to past tech bubbles. Jeremy asks Charles about the ESG mentality and if it needs to change. Charles gives his opinion on the Russia/Ukraine situation and how it may play out over the next few years. Jeremy dives into the sentiment of investing in Chinese stocks. Charles also discusses the state of currency around the world and bitcoin. Guest: Charles-Henry Monchau joined Bank Syz from FlowBank, where he was Chief Investment Officer and Chief Commercial Officer. Prior to this, he had been CIO of Al Mal Capital (Dubai Investments), Head of the Asset Allocation Team for the EMEA region at Deutsche Bank and held various C-level positions in Geneva, Zurich, Dubai, Nassau and Paris. Charles-Henry has an Executive MBA from IE Business School and an MSc in Finance from HEC Geneva. He is also a CFA, CMT, CAIA and CIIA charter-holder. Learn more about Charles at: https://www.syzgroup.com/en/news/bank-syz-appoints-chief-investment-officer Follow Charles on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/charles-henry-monchau-cfa-cmt-caia-4003096

Behind the Markets Podcast: Chris Whalen Feb 15, 2024

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Show from 02/16/24 Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel begin this week's episode discussing the big data on inflation. The Prof gets into detail on the reports, giving us an indepth look at the current market. The two also talk about the explosive moves in Small-Caps. (7:47) Jeremy is joined by Chris to talk about banks and the current situation in America. Chris talks about whether he would prefer to be net long or net short. The two discuss their opinions on big banking crisis issues from the past. Chris talks about the politics behind solving the banking problems and its troubled history. Jeremy brings up where Chris would rate banks in America and what issues they currently have today. Chris also deep dives into mortgages, the current home market, as well as the index he’s created and the services he provides. Guest: Richard Christopher Whalen is an investment banker and writer who lives in New York. He is Chairman of Whalen Global Advisors LLC and focuses on the banking, mortgage finance and fintech sectors. Christopher is the author of several books, is contributing editor at National Mortgage News, and edits The Institutional Risk Analyst. He appears in a variety of other publications and media. Chris is a member of the Economic Advisory Committee of FINRA and is a Senior Advisor at J.V.B. Financial Group in New York. Learn more about Chris at: https://www.rcwhalen.com/ Follow Chris on X(Twitter): @rcwhalen

Behind the Markets Podcast: Daniel Peris Feb 09, 2024

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Show from 02/09/24 Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel start off by talking about the light market week. The Prof notes that next week will be much bigger following the release of many important reports. He is confident that if the Fed continues to see the data slowing, they will lower rates. The Prof goes into detail on the tech market, the excitement around AI and how it has been trending recently. (9:59) Daniel joins the conversation with Jeremy to discuss dividends in this AI driven world. Jeremy asks Daniel about historical dividend by-backs and pivotal moments that caused people to turn away from them. Daniel talks about growth versus dividends. He explains how harvested capital gains are not the same as dividends. Jeremy asks Daniel about what types of yields he prefers to see in the markets. Daniel mentions geopolitics, his opinion on investing worldwide and his disapproval for government intervention in by-backs. Guest: Daniel Peris, Ph.D., CFA oversees dividend-focused portfolios for a major US asset manager. Before transitioning into asset management, Peris was a historian focused on modern Russian history. Learn more about Daniel at: https://strategicdividendinvestor.com/about-the-author/ Follow Daniel on X(Twitter): @HistoryInvestor

Behind the Markets Podcast: Jeff & Neil Feb 02, 2024

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Show from 02/02/24 Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel begin this week's discussion with a look at the latest jobs report. The Prof says the plunge in hours reported is only ever seen in recession times and stresses the importance of further research. The Prof says there is increased concern about the banks again but it appears to be an isolated incident. (10:16) Jeremy continues his conversation with Neil to talk about the Professor's comments on the current economy. Neil states that the severe weather is the cause for low hours this week and there should be an increase moving forward. Jeremey asks Neil what could be causing mass dissatisfaction for the economy among US citizens. Jeff joins the discussion to discuss the bond market and global economics. Neil comments on what the 5 to 7 year trend on productivity might be. The group gives their opinion on Small-Caps, commercial real-estate and bank lending, as well as bio tech and international markets. Guests: Jeff has been one of Wall Street’s most influential macro-analysts over the last quarter-century. His process assisted clients in navigating both the up and downside as well as the inherent risks associated with this business. As a member of Institutional Investor’s Hall of Fame, Jeff has helped legitimize technical analysis by employing a disciplined process reliant on data, history, and statistics, while discounting the narrative-based approach that remains so popular on Wall Street. His dedication to the business, unquenchable passion for markets and history creates a foundation that offers the flexibility to profit and protect. Jeff is known for his pragmatism and willingness to express both bullish and bearish views. As Head of Economic Research, Neil Dutta, As Head of Economic Research, leads our macroeconomic research efforts, with an emphasis on analyzing the US economy, Federal Reserve, global trends, and cross-market investment themes. Prior to RenMac, Neil spent seven years at Bank of America-Merrill Lynch. There, he was a Senior Economist covering both the United States and Canada.Neil appears frequently in the financial press, representing the firm on Bloomberg, CNBC, and Fox Business. He has been quoted by the Wall Street Journal, Financial Times, Associated Press, and has been featured in the New York Times for his out of consensus economic views on a host of topics including employment, consumption, inflation and housing. Learn more about Jeff at: https://www.renmac.com/jeff-degraaf/ Learn more about Neil at: https://www.renmac.com/neil-dutta/ Follow Jeff on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jeffrey-degraaf-cmt-cfa Follow Neil on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dutta-neil

Behind the Markets Podcast: Juan Salerno Jan 26, 2024

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Show from 01/26/24 Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegelbegin this week with the Prof describing the market as Goldilocks. Inventory build up may weigh on the first quarter says the Prof. The Fed will not be raising rates next week, but will also not be decreasing them. He also gives us his view on the political race, how it could affect the market and insights into what's going on in Argentina. (10:26) Juan Salerno joins Jeremy to discuss what truly is happening in Argentina right now with new leadership. Juan explains that the country will go into a recession due to policy reforms, but will come out hopefully stronger. Jeremy asks Juan about the strength of the economy and what they are focused on during the new regime. Jeremy shifts the conversation to energy and Argentina's future ventures in that sector. Juan talks about his position at Compass, what their client base is like, what they prefer to invest in and much more. Guests: Juan is a Partner of Compass, Chief Investment Officer and Director of Compass Argentina. He is the Portfolio Manager of fixed income funds domiciled in Argentina. Previously he was a Senior Equity and Fixed Income Analyst. Prior to joining the firm, he was Portfolio Manager at Grupo Galicia Seguros. He has also been involved in analyzing, pricing, and trading private debt and structured securities. Juan is a certified Public Accountant with a Bachelor of Science in Business Administration from Universidad Católica de La Plata and an MSF from Universidad Torcuato Di Tella. Learn more about Luan at: https://cgcompass.com/en/team/ Follow Luan on LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/juan-miguel-salerno-8555705

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