Behaviour Speak with Ben Reiman

Latest Episodes:

Behavior Analysis and Prader-Willi Syndrome with Dr. Kasey Bedard, Ph.D., BCBA-D, IBA Mar 07, 2025

Show notes

In this conversation, Dr. Kasey Bedard discusses Prader-Willi Syndrome (PWS), focusing on its genetic basis, symptoms, and the importance of early intervention. She emphasizes the significance of dietary management, particularly in addressing hyperphagia, and explores behavioral challenges such as skin picking and emotional regulation. Dr. Bedard highlights the role of parent training programs and community support in managing PWS and the need for collaboration among medical providers. The discussion also touches on residential care strategies and the future of research and treatment for individuals with PWS.

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BACB: 1.5 Learning
IBAO: 1.5 Learning
QABA: 1.5 General

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Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/behaviourspeak/

Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/benreiman.bsky.social.bsky.social

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/behaviourspeak/

Contact:

Dr. Kasey Bedard

kasey@pwseducation.org

https://www.pwseducation.org/

Links:

Prader-Willi Association of America

https://www.pwsausa.org/

Jennifer Miller - Pediatric Endocrinologist specializing in hyperphagia
https://endo.pediatrics.med.ufl.edu/profile/miller-jennifer-6/

Mike Tan - Pediatric Dietitian
https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaeladamtan/

Foundation for Prader Willi Research

https://www.fpwr.org/

Articles Referenced:

Bedard, K. E., Griffith, A. K., Ulm, D., Strittman, M., Krukowski, K., Eaton, A., Rone, A., & Cardon, T. (2025). Evaluating the Impact of PWS Smart-Start: A Behavior Analytic Caregiver Training Program for Prader-Willi Syndrome. Journal of Positive Behavior Interventions, 27(1), 26-38. https://doi.org/10.1177/10983007231200535

Bedard, K.E., Griffith, A.K. & Krukowski, K. Caregiver-Implemented Behavior Analytic Treatment Package for Skin Picking in PWS: A Pilot Study. Adv Neurodev Disord (2024). https://doi.org/10.1007/s41252-024-00393-2

Bedard, K.E., Pacha, D., Griffith, A.K., & Ward, S. (2024). Prader-Willi Syndrome: A primer for school psychologists,
Children and Youth Services Review, Volume 163,
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.childyouth.2024.107775

Bedard, K.E., Griffith, A.K., Lister, M.A. et al. Behavioral and Dietary Management for Adults with Prader–Willi Syndrome in a Residential Setting. Adv Neurodev Disord 5, 93–101 (2021). https://doi.org/10.1007/s41252-020-00185-4

Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes On Other Genetic Syndromes

Episode 6 Behavior Analysis and Down Syndrome with Nicole Neil

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-6-down-syndrome-and-behaviour-analysis-with-dr-nicole-neil-phd-bcba-d/

Episode 27 Val Saini shares some of his research on DiGeorge Syndrome

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-27-translational-research-digeorge-syndrome-and-a-little-dash-of-metacontingencies-with-valdeep-saini-phd-bcba-d/

Episode 39 Behavior Therapy for Tics and Tourette Syndrome with Douglas Woods

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-39-behaviour-therapy-for-tics-and-tourette-syndrome-with-douglas-woods-phd/

Episode 137 Behavior Analysis and Fragile X Syndrome with Katerina Monlux

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-137-fragile-x-syndrome-with-dr-katerina-monlux/

The Evolution of Behavior Analysis in the UK with Rahma Farah and Rochelle Gray Feb 28, 2025

Show notes

In this conversation, Rochelle and Rahma share their journeys into the field of Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA) in the UK, discussing their backgrounds, the evolution of ABA practices, and the current challenges faced in certification and public perception. They explore the role of the UK SBA in promoting ABA services and the importance of representation in the community. They also delve into the differences between Positive Behavior Support (PBS) and ABA, the current state of regulation, and the importance of diversity and representation in the profession.

Continuing Education Credits (https://www.cbiconsultants.com/shop)

BACB: 1.5 Ethics
IBAO: 1.5 Cultural/Ethics
QABA: 1.5 Ethics

Contact:

Rahma Farah - Prospering Minds Consultancy

https://www.instagram.com/prospering_minds_consultancy/

Rochelle Gray - Piece of Mind Therapies

https://www.pomt.co.uk/who-are-we

Links:

The UK Society for Behaviour Analysis

https://uk-sba.org/

Behavior Analyst Certification Board

https://www.bacb.com/

International Behavior Analysis Organization

https://theibao.com/

Black Applied Behavior Analysts

https://babainfo.org/

Black Men in Behavior Analysis

https://bmbanetwork.org/

Somali Behavior Analysis Association

https://www.instagram.com/sbaa.official/

Understanding Moral Injury with Dr. C. Richard Spates Feb 21, 2025

Show notes

In this engaging conversation, Dr. C. Richard Spates shares his journey as the first Black behavior analyst and clinical psychologist, discussing the evolution of behavior analysis, the impact of social justice movements on the field, and the complexities of trauma treatment. He critiques the rise of treatment packages in psychology, particularly EMDR, and introduces the concept of moral injury, emphasizing its significance in understanding trauma and mental health. This conversation delves into the complexities of moral injury, particularly concerning PTSD, and explores the various factors that contribute to moral injury, including cultural contexts, parenting styles, and the experiences of individuals in different professions. The discussion highlights the need for a broader understanding of moral injury beyond military contexts, addressing its implications in healthcare, education, and societal structures. The conversation also touches on the potential for developing targeted interventions and the importance of recognizing the experiences of both victims and perpetrators in the discourse surrounding moral injury.

Continuing Education Credits (https://www.cbiconsultants.com/shop)

BACB: 2.0 Learning
IBAO: 2.0 Learning
QABA: 2.0 General

Contact Dr. Spates

The Moral Injury Spectrum

https://moralinjuryspectrum.com/

Dr. Spates on LinkedIn

https://www.linkedin.com/in/c-richard-spates-4328b2239/

Links:

Dr. Nasiah Cirincione-Ulezi Interviews Dr. Spates on Evolving ABA

https://abatechnologies.com/operant-innovations-podcast/2022-08-31/evolving-aba-001-dr-richard-spates

https://abatechnologies.com/operant-innovations-podcast/2024-07-23/evolving-aba-moral-injury-with-dr-richard-spates

Behaviour Speak Podcast Interview with Dr. Nasiah

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-67-humilty-compassion-and-reflection-with-dr-nasiah-cirincione-ulezi-and-drjonathan-tarbox/

Black Applied Behavior Analysis Organization

https://babainfo.org/

The Power of Us

https://www.powerofus.online/

Liberating Education with Dr. Erika McDowell Feb 14, 2025

Show notes

In this conversation, Dr. Erika McDowell discusses the challenges and opportunities within the education system, focusing on school enrollment, the importance of capital in education, and the role of micro-schools and Montessori education. She emphasizes the need for liberatory schools that prioritize freedom and inclusivity, while also addressing the intersection of PBIS and Montessori practices. Dr. McDowell highlights the resilience of educators and the importance of community engagement in navigating political changes affecting education.

Watch the video here!

https://youtu.be/7y3i08Z9A7I

Continuing Education Credits (https://www.cbiconsultants.com/shop)

BACB: 1.5 Ethics
IBAO: 1.5 Cultural/Ethics
QABA: 1.5 Ethics

Contact Dr. McDowell

https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-erika-mcdowell-85499013/

Wildflower Schools

https://www.wildflowerschools.org/

Black Wildflowers Fund

https://www.blackwildflowers.org/

Inspired Minds Collide

https://www.inspiredmindscollide.com/

Links:

Territories on which Erika Resides

https://www.lenape-nation.org/

Rosa Parks School of Fine and Performing Arts

https://www.paterson.k12.nj.us/Page/296

Howard University

https://howard.edu/

Dr. Deja L. Jones

https://www.dejaljones.com

Sep Kamvar - Ted Talk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbB5na0g_6M

Teal Organizations

https://www.iberdrola.com/talent/teal-organisations

Kamontá Heidelburg

https://ehe.osu.edu/educational-studies/directory?id=heidelburg.3

MACTE Accreditation

https://www.macte.org/

American Montessori Internationale

https://montessori-ami.org/

Dr. Ayize Sabater

https://www.morgan.edu/psychology/center-for-predictive-analytics/staff/ayize-sabater

APBS

https://apbs.org/

Dianna Yip Director of P.L.A.I. Behaviour Consulting & CEO of PBSA.Asia

https://www.linkedin.com/in/dianna-yip-plai/?originalSubdomain=hk

Behaviour Speak Episodes to Check Out

Episode 195 APBS Executive Director Cheretta Clerkley

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-195-the-association-for-positive-behavior-support-with-executive-director-cheretta-clerkley/

Episode 114 Dr. Nikole Hollins-Sims

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-114-equity-belonging-and-inclusion-with-drnikole-hollins-sims/

The Association for Positive Behavior Support with Executive Director, Cheretta Clerkley Feb 07, 2025

Show notes

In this conversation, Cheretta Clerkley discusses the future of the Association for Positive Behavior Support (APBS), emphasizing the need for the organization to evolve and offer more value to its members. She outlines innovative changes, including new educational opportunities, partnerships, and a focus on inclusivity. The new APBS Executive Director also highlights the importance of international connections and the upcoming conference, which aims to diversify its content and presenters. The conversation concludes with a look at the Journal of Positive Behavioral Interventions and its role in supporting the organization's mission.

Check out APBS: https://apbs.org/

Contact:

Cheretta Clerkley

Cheretta.Clerkley@apbs.org

https://www.linkedin.com/in/clerkley/

Registered Behavior Technicians: The Lifeblood of Applied Behavior Analysis with Wesley Guy and Issac Morgan Jan 31, 2025

Show notes

In episode 194, Ben Reiman interviews Issac Morgan and Wesley Guy, two Registered Behavior Technicians (RBTs) in the field of Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA). They share their journeys into the field, discussing their experiences and the challenges they faced, particularly regarding training and identity. The conversation highlights the importance of mentorship, the need for diversity in the field, and the aspirations of these professionals to bridge gaps between different educational settings. They also emphasize the rewarding nature of their work and encourage others, especially young Black men, to consider a career in ABA.

Continuing Education Credits (https://www.cbiconsultants.com/shop)

BACB: 1.0 Ethics
IBAO: 1.0 Cultural
QABA: 1.0 Ethics

Contact Wesley Guy:

https://www.shiftperspectivesbehaviorconsulting.com/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/wesley-guy-252052255/

https://www.instagram.com/est_93wesguy/

https://www.instagram.com/shiftingperspectives_bc/

Contact Issac Morgan:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/issac-morgan-90143b131/

Links:

Black Men in Behavior Analysis

https://bmbanetwork.org/

Black Applied Behavior Analysts

https://babainfo.org/

Gereen Francis

https://www.linkedin.com/in/gereen-r-francis/

https://www.tangerinebehavioral.com/

The International Behavior Analysis Organization

https://www.theibao.com/

Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Mentioned:

Episode 180 The ABA Roundtable: Centering Registered Behavior Technicians

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-180-the-aba-roundtable-centering-registered-behavior-technicians/

The Road to Black Con 2024 Mini Episode 4 The RBT Experience

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-159-the-road-to-black-con-series-mini-episode-4-the-rbt-experience/

Episode 79 Black Men in Behavior Analysis with Jeron Trotman

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-159-the-road-to-black-con-series-mini-episode-4-the-rbt-experience/

Cultivating Authentic Leaders with Dr. Amber Sessoms Jan 24, 2025

Show notes

In this conversation, Dr. Amber Sessoms discusses the complexities of identity and community within the Black experience, particularly in predominantly white spaces. She emphasizes the importance of resilience, the need for intentional conversations at home, and the role of education in challenging harmful narratives. Dr. Sessoms also explores the significance of ancestry and historical trauma, advocating for healing and reclamation of one's heritage. She highlights the power of love and humanity in fostering connections and the importance of applying knowledge in practical ways to create a more inclusive society.

Continuing Education Credits (https://www.cbiconsultants.com/shop)

BACB: 1.5 Ethics
IBAO: 1.5 Cultural/Ethics
QABA: 1.5 Ethics

Contact Dr. Sessoms:

https://www.aninclination.com/about

https://www.instagram.com/natural_inclination/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/aninclination/

Links:

Highlander Adult Education Center

https://kinginstitute.stanford.edu/highlander-folk-school

Teaching To Transgress by Bell Hooks

https://www.routledge.com/Teaching-to-Transgress-Education-as-the-Practice-of-Freedom/hooks/p/book/9780415908085

All About Love by Bell Hooks

https://www.google.ca/books/edition/All_About_Love/A5ZDDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=0

Uncle Bobbie’s Books - Philadelphia

https://www.unclebobbies.com/

Starting with a love of Organic Chemistry

Dr. Bettina Love

https://bettinalove.com/

Eddie Glaude
https://aas.princeton.edu/people/eddie-s-glaude-jr

Robin Redman Wright
https://harrisburg.psu.edu/faculty-and-staff/robin-redmon-wright

Dr. Dena Simmons
https://www.denasimmons.com/

My Grandmother’s Hands - Resmaa Menakem
https://www.google.ca/books/edition/My_Grandmother_s_Hands/OaG4DgAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT12&printsec=frontcover

The 1619 Project
https://www.google.ca/books/edition/The_1619_Project/B4MhEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA2&printsec=frontcover

Research Articles Discussed:

Sessoms, A. M. (2023). The work of bearing witness to the dual pandemics of COVID-19 and white rage. New Directions for Adult and Continuing Education, 2023, 91–104. https://doi.org/10.1002/ace.20489

Love, B. L. (2016). Anti-Black state violence, classroom edition: The spirit murdering of Black children. Journal of Curriculum and Pedagogy, 13(1), 22–25. https://doi.org/10.1080/15505170.2016.1138258

Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Mentioned:

Episode 114: Equity, Belonging and Inclusion with Dr. Nikole Hollins-Sims
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-114-equity-belonging-and-inclusion-with-drnikole-hollins-sims/

Episode 75 Cultivating Black Excellence and Intelligence in School Psychology with Dr. Celeste Malone
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-75-cultivating-black-excellence-and-intelligence-in-school-psychology-with-dr-celeste-malone/

Episode 67 Humility, Compassion, and Reflection with Dr. Nasiah Cirincione Ulezi and Dr. Jonathan Tarbox
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-67-humilty-compassion-and-reflection-with-dr-nasiah-cirincione-ulezi-and-drjonathan-tarbox/

Behaviour Analysis in Venezuela with Dr. Mirari Elcoro, Amalix Flores, and Dr. Corina Jimenez-Gomez Jan 17, 2025

Show notes

This conversation explores the contributions of three authors of the paper: Behavior Analysis in Venezuela: An Unrecognized Legacy published in the journal, Behavior Analysis in Practice, and outlines their journeys from Venezuela to the U.S., and the socio-political context that shaped their experiences. The speakers discuss the rich history of behavior analysis in Venezuela, the unique Latin American model of education, and the significant role women played in establishing and sustaining behavior analysis programs. They reflect on the importance of community, identity, and tribute in academia, as well as the challenges and adaptations faced in their professional journeys. The conversation concludes with a hopeful outlook on the future of behavior analysis in Venezuela and the importance of recognizing and sharing research contributions from the region

Continuing Education Credits (https://www.cbiconsultants.com/shop)

BACB: 1.5 Ethics
IBAO: 1.5 Cultural/Ethics
QABA: 1.5 Ethics

Contact Mirari Elcoro:

https://www.framingham.edu/our-people/mirari-elcoro-phd

Contact Amalix Flores:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/amalix-flores-069581188/

Contact Corina Jimenez-Gomez:

https://tabslab.psych.ufl.edu/corina-jimenez-gomez/

Research Articles Discussed:

Elcoro, M., Flores, A., Jimenez-Gomez, C., Angelucci, L., Burgos, J. E., Contreras, E., ... & Yáber, G. (2024). Behavior Analysis in Venezuela: An Unrecognized Legacy. Behavior Analysis in Practice, 1-12.

Ardila, R. (1982). Psychology in Latin America today. Annual Review of Psychology, 33, 103–122. https://doi.org/10.1146/annurev.ps.33.020182.000535

Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Mentioned:

Episode 172: ¿Quiénes somos? An Exploration of Latinidad

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/ep-172-quienes-somos-an-exploration-of-latinidad/

Episode 186 Culturo Behavior Science : A Primer With Dr. Traci Cihon, Dr.

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-186-culturo-behavior-science-a-primer-with-dr-traci-cihon-dr-kyosuke-kazaoka-and-dr-albert-malkin/

Episode 96: Behavior Analysis in Mexico with Mariana del los Santos, M.S., BCBA, Varsovia Hernández Eslava Ph.D., BCBA, and Janet Enriquez, M.S., BCBA

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-96-behavior-analysis-in-mexico-with-mariana-del-los-santos-ms-bcba-varsovia-hernandez-eslava-phd-bcba-and-janet-enriquez-ms-bcba/

Episode 68: Racism, Feminism, and Behaviour Analysis in Brazil with Dr. Táhcita Medrado Mizael, Ph.D.

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-68-racism-feminism-in-brazil-with-drs-tahcita-medrado-mizael/

Behavior Analysis in The Middle East

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/category/arabmena-voices

Behavior Analysis in Eastern Europe

Belarus

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/behaviouranalysis-in-belaruswith-hannakalinouskaya-bcba-iba/

Ukraine

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-184-behavior-analysis-in-ukraine-with-alla-moskalets/

Behavior Analysis in Africa

Nigeria

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-120-culturally-responsive-screening-tools-for-autism-andor-intellectual-disabilities-in-nigeria-with-dr-eziafakaku-nwokolo/

Ghana and Nigeria

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-91-behaviour-analysis-in-ghana-and-nigeria-with-josephine-akure-and-joy-oviojie/

Senegal

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-9-behaviour-analysis-in-senegal-with-adair-cardon-ms-bcba/

Botswana

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-5-bringing-behaviour-analysis-to-africa-a-culturally-diverse-journey-around-the-world-with-maleshwane-mauco-msc-bcba/

Behavior Analysis in Asia

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/category/asian-and-pacfic-islander-voices

Behaviour Analysis in Belarus with Анна Калиновская, M.A., BCBA, IBA (Hanna Kalinouskaya) Jan 10, 2025

Show notes

In this conversation, Ben Reiman interviews Hanna Kalinouskaya, a behavior analyst from Belarus, who shares her journey from being a musician to becoming the first BCBA in her country. She discusses the political situation in Belarus, the challenges faced by families with children with autism, and the evolution of autism services in the region. Hanna also talks about her experiences during the war, her efforts to create a behavior analysis course, and her aspirations for the future of behavior analysis in Belarus and beyond.

Continuing Education Credits (https://www.cbiconsultants.com/shop)

BACB: 1.0 Ethics
IBAO: 1.0 Ethics
QABA: 1.0 Ethics

Contact Hanna:

https://kalinouskaya.com/

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/kalinovskaya.aba/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/Анна-Калиновская-234bbb1a4/

Links:

International Behavior Analysis Organization

https://www.theibao.com/

Episodes Referenced:

Episode 184 Behavior Analysis in Ukraine with Alla Moskalets

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-184-behavior-analysis-in-ukraine-with-alla-moskalets/

Episode 180 The International Behavior Analysis Organization wit Dr. Michael Mueller

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-80-the-international-behavior-analyst-organization-an-interview-with-ibao-co-founder-and-executive-director-dr-michael-mueller-bcba-d-iba/

Behavior Analysis and Indigenous Ways of Being with Leslie Peters Jan 03, 2025

Show notes

In Episode 190, Leslie Peters shares her story as a Métis individual, exploring her family history, cultural identity, and the impact of colonization. Leslie discusses her professional role in student support services in the Yukon, her experiences growing up in a mixed heritage family, and the importance of understanding and embracing Métis culture. The conversation delves into the complexities of identity, the historical context of the fur trade, and the significance of cultural practices in parenting. Peters also reflects on the interplay between science and Indigenous knowledge, emphasizing the healing potential of recognizing the shared experiences of both colonizers and the colonized. The discussion transitions into the intersection of Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA) and Indigenous approaches, emphasizing the need for culturally responsive and trauma-informed practices. Leslie shares her journey into the field of ABA, highlighting the challenges and misconceptions she faced, and how she aims to integrate Indigenous perspectives into her work.

Continuing Education Credits (https://www.cbiconsultants.com/shop)

BACB: 1.5 Ethics
IBAO: 1.5 Ethics
QABA: 1.5 Ethics

Contact Leslie:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/leslie-peters-5b011b44/

Email:

leslieinbc@gmail.com

Links:

Moose Factory Metis

https://www.ontariometisfacts.com/post/major-metis-presence-moose-factory

https://www.ontariometisfacts.com/post/the-turners-a-metis-family

Metis Nation of Ontario

https://www.metisnation.org/

Autism Yukon

https://autismyukon.org/

Neurosequential Model

https://www.neurosequential.com/

Dr. Richard Stock

https://www.capilanou.ca/programs--courses/search--select/explore-our-areas-of-study/faculty-profiles/richard-stock/

Articles Discussed:

Penney, A.M., Bateman, K.J., Veverka, Y. et al. Compassion: The Eighth Dimension of Applied Behavior Analysis. Behav Analysis Practice (2023). https://doi.org/10.1007/s40617-023-00888-9

Wolf M. M. (1978). Social validity: the case for subjective measurement or how applied behavior analysis is finding its heart. Journal of applied behavior analysis, 11(2), 203–214. https://doi.org/10.1901/jaba.1978.11-203

Beaulieu, L., Kwak, D., Jimenez-Gomez, C., & Morgan, G. (2024). Implementing culturally responsive and trauma-informed practices with checklists and goal setting. Journal of Applied Behavior Analysis, 57(4), 821–839. https://doi.org/10.1002/jaba.1095

Stack, A., & Lucyshyn, J. (2019). Autism Spectrum Disorder and the Experience of Traumatic Events: Review of the Current Literature to Inform Modifications to a Treatment Model for Children with Autism. Journal of autism and developmental disorders, 49(4), 1613–1625. https://doi.org/10.1007/s10803-018-3854-9

Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Mentioned:

Episode 162 Michael Yellow Bird

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-162-the-decolonization-equation-with-dr-michael-yellow-bird/

Episode 148 Deb Fernando

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-148-behaviour-analysis-in-first-nation-communities-of-australia/

Episode 147 Jaxcy Turietta

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-147-the-chickasaw-behavior-analyst-with-dr-jaxcy-odom/

Episode 130 Jordyn Burleson

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-130-the-tonowanda-seneca-behavior-technician-with-jordyn-burleson-rbt/

Episode 117

https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-117-the-lakota-bcba-with-valerie-clack-ma-bcbalba/

Episode 106 Mari Cerda