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    Behavioral Grooves Podcast

    Stories, science and secrets from the world’s brightest thought-leaders. Behavioral Grooves is the podcast that satisfies your curiosity of why we do what we do. Explanations of human behavior that will improve your relationships, your wellbeing, and your organization by helping you find your groove.

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    Stanford Prison Experiment, 50 Years On: What Have We Really Learnt? With Dr Philip Zimbardo Aug 15, 2021
    Show notes

    The Stanford Prison Experiment has been the topic of movies, newspaper articles, textbooks and TV shows. Extensively published controversy has surrounded the social psychology experiment ever since it was conducted in 1971. Now on the 50th Anniversary, we invite you to listen to a very unique interview with the man who orchestrated it all; Dr Philip Zimbardo PhD.

    • Was the Stanford Prison Experiment designed to measure the corruption of power?
    • Were participants influenced by the context of the experiment itself and pressured into performing a role?
    • How exactly did the environment influence the behavior of the participants, including Dr Philip Zimbardo himself? As he quotes; “a bad barrel can take a good apple, and make it bad”.

    At Stanford University in 1971, influenced by the work of his friend Stanley Milgram, Philip Zimbardo assembled a mock prison in the basement of the university and used male student volunteers to become the guards and prisoners. What unfolded in the coming days surprised even Philip Zimbardo.

    What is less known about Philip Zimbardo is that he has since done extensive research on shyness, cult behavior, time perception, and more recently on heroism. According to him, we are all “heroes in waiting”, and he has founded the Heroic Imagination Project to help cultivate the heroes among us.

    Our discussion with Dr Z (as he asked us to call him!) weaves through an enlightening reflection on his upbringing, the influence of his family and peers, and his transition into academia. Kurt and Tim intercept the conversation throughout to provide explanation and insights. And we end with how Dr Z’s work can influence our behavior now. What can we really learn from the Stanford Prison Experiment? And how can we all become a hero in waiting?

    Topics

    (2:59) Introducing Dr. Philip Zimbardo.

    (4:30) Dr Z’s upbringing in the Bronx.

    (6:40) The significance of Dr Z’s classmates at James Monroe High School.

    (11:06) How racism influenced Dr Z’s application to Yale.

    (16:18) How Dr Z started the Stanford Prison Experiment.

    (19:05) What Dr Z was trying to understand from the experiment.

    (20:04) What went wrong.

    (21:59) How abusive guard David Eshelman explained his behavior.

    (23:10) Controversy around the experiment and why it ended early.

    (27:07) Chip Frederick’s abusive behavior at Abu Ghraib prison during the Iraqi War.

    (30:15) If you can cultivate evil behavior, can you also cultivate heroic behavior?

    (33:36) The 4 steps to becoming a "Hero in Training".

    (35:14) Dr Z’s offer to help with police brutality in the US.

    (37:04) Takeaways: how to be aware and intentional with our behavior.

    We look forward to welcoming you back next week for more about why context matters with esteemed Yale social psychologist, Dr John Bargh PhD.

    Please consider donating to our podcast work through Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/behavioralgrooves).

    We also love hearing from our listeners, please leave us a podcast review or reach out to us on Twitter:

    Kurt Nelson @motivationguru

    Tim Houlihan @THoulihan

    Mary Kaliff @BeSciMary

    © 2021 Behavioral Grooves

    Links

    Stanley Milgram: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Milgram

    Solomon Asch - Conformity Experiment: https://www.simplypsychology.org/asch-conformity.html

    Charlie Parker “All The Things You Are”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTORd2Y_X6U

    Episode 76: Nurit Nobel: De-Biasing the Recruiting Process: https://behavioralgrooves.com/episode/nurit-nobel-de-biasing-the-recruiting-process/

    Chip Frederick: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/oct/22/usa.iraq

    Heroic Imagination Project: https://www.heroicimagination.org/


    [INTERVIEW] Are You More Honest with Google or Your Friends? With Seth Stephens-Davidowitz Aug 08, 2021
    Show notes

    The truth is we divulge more information to Google that we do to our friends, our family or even our doctors. Our social media persona can paint a very different picture to what we secretly search for on Google. So what do search trends in Google tell us about ourselves and our society? Does it matter that we are different on Google than in person?

    Author of bestseller Everybody Lies (https://amzn.to/32ULlgD), Seth Stephens-Davidowitz, tells us how data can unlock the keys to happier relationships and even how to better parent our children.

    Topics We Discuss with Seth:

    (3:15) Welcome and speed round questions.

    (12:53) Are people more honest with Google or with their friends?

    (16:01) The juxtaposition between our social media presence and our Google searches.

    (21:03) Does everybody really lie?

    (26:06) Why people lie about sex.

    (30:00) Why your children’s outcome is affected by your location.

    (36:37) Using more data and less intuition to make decisions.

    (44:28) The data to use and not to use for successful dating.

    (47:57) What age do we get hooked on music?

    (54:10) Do people lie about music?

    Join us for our follow-on discussion in Episode 245 where Kurt and Tim have a Grooving Session on what they have talked about with Seth: the effect of context with honesty, tips for successful dating and the influences surrounding our children.

    If you are a regular listener to Behavioral Grooves, please consider donating to our work through Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/behavioralgrooves). We also love reading your reviews on the podcast, which gives other listeners social proof that we’re worth listening to!

    © 2021 Behavioral Grooves

    Links

    Behavioral Grooves new website: www.behavioralgrooves.com

    Seth Stephens-Davidowitz: http://sethsd.com/

    Seth Stephens-Davidowitz: “Everybody Lies: Big Data, New Data, and What the Internet Can Tell Us About Who We Really Are”: https://amzn.to/32ULlgD

    The Myth of the “Relationship Spark” with Logan Ury (featuring a guest appearance by Christina Gravert, PhD): https://behavioralgrooves.com/episode/relationship-spark-logan-ury/

    Dan Ariely, “Let Me Come Right Out and Say It: You Cheat”: https://sloanreview.mit.edu/article/let-me-come-right-out-and-say-it-you-cheat/

    Bernie Madoff: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Madoff

    Shankar Vedantam, “Useful Delusions: The Power and Paradox of the Self-Deceiving Brain”: https://amzn.to/2PUkzlv

    Raj Chetty: http://www.rajchetty.com/

    Dan Levitin, “This Is Your Brain on Music: The Science of a Human Obsession”: https://amzn.to/3C45iSh

    Episode 171: Self Control, Belonging, and Why Your Most Dedicated Employees Are the Ones To Watch Out For with Roy Baumeister https://behavioralgrooves.com/episode/self-control-belonging-and-why-your-most-dedicated-employees-are-the-ones-to-watch-out-for-with-roy-baumeister/

    Episode 220: How Do You Become Influential? Jon Levy Reveals His Surprising Secrets: https://behavioralgrooves.com/episode/how-to-be-influential-jon-levy/

    Moneyball movie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moneyball_(film)

    Seth Stephens-Davidowitz, “The Songs That Bind”: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/10/opinion/sunday/favorite-songs.html

    Episode 219: Why Music Makes You Feel Better with Pablo Ripollés and Ernest Mas Herrero: https://behavioralgrooves.com/episode/why-music-makes-you-feel-better/

    Elizabeth Ki, Behavioral Scientist at Spotify: http://elizabethdkim.com/

    Episode 218: Share, Like, Comment: Sandra Matz PhD Exposes The Truth Behind your Digital Footprint: https://behavioralgrooves.com/episode/your-digital-footprint/

    Musical Links

    Leonard Cohen “Famous Blue Raincoat”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohk3DP5fMCg

    Leonard Cohen “Alexandra Leaving”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELGaHaZzwjU

    Leonard Cohen “Suzanne”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svitEEpI07E

    Bruce Springsteen “Dancing in the Dark”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=129kuDCQtHs

    Bob Dylan “Too Late”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUT7N8RYgSI

    Paul Simon “Late in The Evening”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_K5qIA1IVIA

    Crosby, Stills and Nash “Just a Song Before I Go”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UoneXjfBC0

    Dave Matthews Band “Funny The Way it Is”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNiS9T-I2Eg&pp=sAQA

    Katy Perry “Smile”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZA5heWazIQ

    Duran Duran “Invisible”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMCd5zrsFpE

    Justin Bieber “Intentions”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AyMjyHu1bA

    The Beatles “Come Together”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45cYwDMibGo


    [GROOVING SESSION] Are You More Honest with Google or Your Friends? With Seth Stephens-Davidowitz Aug 08, 2021
    Show notes

    This follow-up episode is a free-flowing Grooving Session where Tim and Kurt chat about their discussion with Seth Stephens-Davidowitz (Episode 246). You’re more than welcome to listen to this as a stand alone episode, but we recommend first tuning in to our interview with Seth, and then joining us here for some banter about Seth’s work.

    Questions we discuss:
    • Are we more likely to be untruthful in certain contexts?
    • Is lying a useful delusion?
    • Can we ever justify lies?
    • How do the connections we make with others affect our relationships and our children?
    • Does where we are born really influence us the rest of our lives?
    • What traits should we definitely look for when dating?
    • How is our brain influenced by music?

    Tim and Kurt chat about these questions and more in this Grooving Session, which follows on from our interview episode with Seth Stephens-Davidowitz, author of bestselling book Everybody Lies (https://amzn.to/32ULlgD).

    If you are a regular listener to Behavioral Grooves, please consider donating to our work through Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/behavioralgrooves). We also love reading your reviews on the podcast, which gives other listeners social proof that we’re worth listening to!

    Grooving Session Links

    Seth Stephens-Davidowitz: http://sethsd.com/

    Seth Stephens-Davidowitz “Everybody Lies: Big Data, New Data, and What the Internet Can Tell Us About Who We Really Are” https://amzn.to/32ULlgD

    Episode 222: How Delusions Can Actually Be Useful: Shankar Vedantam Reveals How https://behavioralgrooves.com/episode/shankar-vedantam-useful-delusions/

    Episode 110: Steve Martin and Joe Marks: The Messenger is the Message: https://behavioralgrooves.com/episode/steve-martin-and-joe-marks-the-messenger-is-the-message/

    Episode 240: Why Good, Honest Employees Really Do Steal With Kelly Paxton: https://behavioralgrooves.com/episode/pink-collar-crime-kelly-paxton/

    Dr Melody S. Goodman, PhD “Zip code better predictor of health than genetic code”: https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/features/zip-code-better-predictor-of-health-than-genetic-code/

    Episode 244: Does Money Really Make You Happy? The Research with Johannes Haushofer: https://behavioralgrooves.com/episode/does-money-make-you-happy/

    Episode 230: How Good People Fight Bias with Dolly Chugh: https://behavioralgrooves.com/episode/how-good-people-fight-bias/

    Episode 220: How Do You Become Influential? Jon Levy Reveals His Surprising Secrets: https://behavioralgrooves.com/episode/how-to-be-influential-jon-levy/

    Behavioral Grooves musical links for all of our guests: https://behavioralgrooves.com/artists/


    [INTERVIEW] Does Money Really Make You Happy? The Research with Johannes Haushofer Aug 01, 2021
    Show notes

    What link is there between happiness and income? Does winning the lottery make you happier? What does the research say about poverty and our mental health?

    Our guest on this episode has researched the psychological effects money has on our wellbeing and on our society. Johannes Haushofer is the Assistant Professor of Economics at Stockholm University and has taught at Princeton University for the past six years.

    Johannes realized that not enough research on these topics has been conducted outside of the Western, educated, industrialized, rich and democratic countries (WEIRD countries). So he founded the Busara Center for Behavioral Economics in Nairobi, Kenya: https://busaracenter.org/. We talk with him about how he founded the center and what research he has been able to do there.

    A few years ago, in an effort to make a friend feel better Johannes published his ‘CV of Failures’ that detailed every degree program that had rejected him and all the research funding he didn’t get. It went viral as people lapped up the counterintuitive idea of celebrating failure.

    Despite having a well published list of failures, Johannes has a multitude of successes. One of which is that he is a serious vocalist with access to a deeper range in his lower voice known as the vocal fry register. We have a great discussion about the central role that music has played in his life.

    Topics We Discuss with Johannes

    (2:21) Welcome and speed round questions.

    (4:06) What is the relationship between income and happiness?

    (12:24) How spending changes when people are given one lump sum of money vs. monthly payments.

    (15:51) What research is there about Universal Basic Income?

    (17:43) What effect does winning the lottery have on us?

    (21:17) Why Johannes’ “CV of Failures” that went viral.

    (26:00) Johannes’ views on the replication crisis in psychology.

    (29:21) How Johannes founded the Busara Center for Behavioral Economics in Kenya.

    (33:20) The link between mental health and poverty.

    (35:07) How stress impacts choices.

    (36:16) Johannes’ experience of singing in Swedish Choirs.

    Listen next to our Grooving Session (episode #243) where Kurt and Tim discuss the insight from our interview with Johannes.

    If you are a regular listener to Behavioral Grooves, please consider donating to our work through Patreon https://www.patreon.com/behavioralgrooves. We also love reading your reviews on the podcast, which gives other listeners social proof that we’re worth listening to!

    © 2021 Behavioral Grooves

    Links

    Johannes Haushofer site: https://haushofer.ne.su.se/

    Busara Center for Behavioral Economics: https://busaracenter.org/

    TEDMED Talk: "Johannes Haushofer, The Psychological Consequences of Poverty" https://www.tedmed.com/talks/show?id=621424

    Vocal Fry Register: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vocal_fry_register

    Johannes Haushofer, CV of Failures: https://www.uni-goettingen.de/de/document/download/bed2706fd34e29822004dbe29cd00bb5.pdf/Johannes_Haushofer_CV_of_Failures[1].pdf

    Episode 41: Michael Hallsworth: From MINDSPACE to EAST: https://behavioralgrooves.com/episode/michael-hallsworth-from-mindspace-to-east/

    Melanie Stefan “Keeping a visible record of your rejected applications can help others to deal with setbacks”: https://www.nature.com/articles/nj7322-467a

    Betsey Stevenson and Justin Wolfers, “Subjective Well-Being and Income: Is There Any Evidence of Satiation?”: https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/aer.103.3.598

    Episode 176: Annie Duke on How to Decide: https://behavioralgrooves.com/episode/annie-duke-on-how-to-decide/

    Episode 202: How Chaning Jang Works Around Not Being WEIRD: https://behavioralgrooves.com/episode/how-chaning-jang-works-around-not-being-weird/

    Behavioral Grooves Patreon https://www.patreon.com/behavioralgrooves

    Musical Links

    Johannes singing a Sea Shanty: https://twitter.com/jhaushofer/status/1351267627461734402?s=20

    Johannes singing on the streets of Stockholm: https://twitter.com/jhaushofer/status/851066608109924352?s=20

    Johannes’ Playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/16NMYSIfdiaz7K81AFGPtJ?si=gdqJ7xQSRQObxsJaN7r1Og

    Joan Baez “Diamonds and Rust”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrVD0bP_ybg

    St Olaf Choir, “Shenandoah”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBiP_kDI-Ak

    Alex Dmitrieff (Basso Profondo) - Alliluia - Russian Orthodox Male Choir of Australia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv0nuACLqJE&ab_channel=TheOktavismChannel

    Simon & Garfunkel "The Boxer": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3LFML_pxlY&ab_channel=SimonGarfunkelVEVO


    [GROOVING SESSION] Does Money Really Make You Happy? The Research with Johannes Haushofer Aug 01, 2021
    Show notes

    Kurt and Tim discuss the links between poverty and mental health, how higher income is linked to better well-being, and the idea of a Universal Basic Income. This is a free-flowing discussion delving into the insights from their most recent interview with Johannes Haushofer (episode #244), Assistant Professor of Economics at Stockholm University. While you are welcome to listen to this episode as a stand-alone, we recommend you download our interview with Johannes first before joining us here.

    Topics You Will Learn About:
    • Higher income being related to better well-being.
    • The effects of poverty on cognitive function, creativity, stress, health and long-term outcome decisions.
    • Universal Basic Income; the behavior changes it could induce.
    • The replication crisis of research studies in psychology.
    • The value of Johannes studying poverty outside of WEIRD countries.

    “So there was a pretty strong relationship between income and happiness, both within and across countries. Rich people are happier than poor people within the same country. But also richer countries, on average, are happier than poor countries.” ~ Johannes Haushofer quote from Behavioral Grooves podcast interview.

    If you are a regular listener to Behavioral Grooves, please consider donating to our work through Patreon https://www.patreon.com/behavioralgrooves. We also love reading your reviews on the podcast, which gives other listeners social proof that we’re worth listening to!

    Links

    Betsey Stevenson and Justin Wolfers, “Subjective Well-Being and Income: Is There Any Evidence of Satiation?”: https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/aer.103.3.598

    Episode 155: John Bargh: Dante, Coffee and the Unconscious Mind: https://behavioralgrooves.com/episode/john-bargh-dante-coffee-and-the-unconscious-mind/

    Busara Center for Behavioral Economics in Nairobi, Kenya: https://busaracenter.org

    Episode 202: How Chaning Jang Works Around Not Being WEIRD: https://behavioralgrooves.com/episode/how-chaning-jang-works-around-not-being-weird/

    Honesty Tea: https://www.honesttea.com/our-story

    Seth Stephens-Davidowitz “Everybody Lies: Big Data, New Data, and What the Internet Can Tell Us About Who We Really Are”: https://amzn.to/32ULlgD

    Kurt and Tim mention our interview with Richard Nesbitt, which will be released on 8/29/21!

    Behavioral Grooves Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/behavioralgrooves

    © 2021 Behavioral Grooves


    [INTERVIEW] Smart Behavioral Economics Secrets Every Marketer Needs with Melina Palmer Jul 25, 2021
    Show notes

    What does your customer want but can’t tell you? What effective marketing techniques use behavioral economics? If only you had a way of understanding how your customer’s brain made decisions. Well our guest, Melina Palmer sits down to discuss exactly that.

    Melina Palmer is the founder of The Brainy Business, which provides behavioral economics consulting to businesses of all sizes from around the world. She also hosts a podcast, The Brainy Business, and has recently published her first book What Your Customer Wants and Can’t Tell You: Unlocking Consumer Decisions with the Science of Behavioral Economics: https://amzn.to/36Rm88I.

    What You Will Learn From Melina Palmer

    (6:23) Melina explains her book “What Your Customer Wants and Can’t Tell You”

    (13:30) Why should we care about dopamine?

    (16:26) The effectiveness of using a lottery draw

    (20:43) Why is priming so important in marketing?

    (27:41) How Melina helps you to apply her insight

    (30:59) What sparked Melina’s interest in Behavioral Economics?

    (32:24) What is the biggest secret that customers can’t tell you?

    (33:54) Is the marketing industry still sexist?

    (34:40) The music Melina would take to survive on a desert island

    If you are a regular listener to Behavioral Grooves, please consider donating to our work through Patreon https://www.patreon.com/behavioralgrooves. We also love reading your reviews on the podcast, which gives other listeners social proof that we’re worth listening to!

    © 2021 Behavioral Grooves

    Links

    Melina Palmer, What Your Customer Wants and Can’t Tell You: Unlocking Consumer Decisions with the Science of Behavioral Economics: https://amzn.to/36Rm88I

    Episode 109: Melina Palmer: Using Behavioral Economics to Help Businesses: https://behavioralgrooves.com/episode/melina-palmer-using-behavioral-economics-to-help-businesses/

    The Brainy Business: https://thebrainybusiness.com/

    The Brainy Business Podcast: https://thebrainybusiness.com/podcast/

    Melina Palmer, INC: https://www.inc.com/author/melina-palmer

    Melina Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thebrainybiz/

    Melina Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thebrainybiz/

    Melina YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/thebrainybusiness

    Melina Twitter: https://twitter.com/thebrainybiz

    Melina LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melina-palmer-36ab8712/

    The Brainy Buiness LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-brainy-business/

    BE Thoughtful Revolution: https://be-thoughtful-revolution.mn.co/share/Wwg4nTN8qVp21XB3?utm_source=manual

    Episode 232: Katy Milkman: How to Make Healthy Habits that Actually Last: https://behavioralgrooves.com/episode/katy-milkman-habits-that-last/

    Episode 226: The Power Of Unity: Robert Cialdini Expands His Best Selling Book Influence: https://behavioralgrooves.com/episode/cialdini-unity-in-influence/

    McDonald’s Monopoly: A Masterclass in Promotions: https://www.talon.one/blog/mcdonalds-monopoly-a-masterclass-in-promotions

    Human Behavior Lab, Certificate Program: https://hbl.tamu.edu/certificate-program/

    Musical Links

    Paul McCartney “Find My Way”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oSmP3GtOBk

    Lady Gaga “Stupid Love”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L6xyaeiV58

    John Mayer “Last Train Home”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66Ne5dVDfLM

    Melina’s Pandora station: https://pandora.app.link/UrWQ28B6l3


    [GROOVING SESSION] Smart Behavioral Economics Secrets Every Marketer Needs with Melina Palmer Jul 25, 2021
    Show notes

    How can your organization improve its marketing messaging using proven behavioral science techniques? As part of our series on Marketing & Employee Engagement this month, we were joined by Melina Palmer on our latest interview episode (#242). Melina Palmer is the founder of The Brainy Business podcast and author of “What Your Customer Wants and Can’t Tell You: Unlocking Consumer Decisions with the Science of Behavioral Economics”: https://amzn.to/36Rm88I. She is an expert on both marketing and behavioral economics and blends techniques from both fields in her writing and podcast.

    This follow-up episode is a free-flowing Grooving Session where Tim and Kurt discuss the business applications of their discussion with Melina. This episode is best enjoyed after listening to our interview episode.

    What you will learn from this episode:

    • The science behind dopamine release.
    • How to use rewards (incentives or lotteries) effectively to motivate employees.
    • Why priming is one of the most underutilized marketing tools.
    • And one of our favorite topics; why context matters when communicating a message.

    If you are a regular listener to Behavioral Grooves, please consider donating to our work through Patreon https://www.patreon.com/behavioralgrooves. We also love reading your reviews on the podcast, which gives other listeners social proof that we’re worth listening to!

    © 2021 Behavioral Grooves

    Links

    Melina Palmer, What Your Customer Wants and Can’t Tell You: Unlocking Consumer Decisions with the Science of Behavioral Economics: https://amzn.to/36Rm88I

    Episode 147: Gary Latham, PhD: Goal Setting, Prompts, Priming, and Skepticism https://behavioralgrooves.com/episode/gary-latham-goal-setting-prompts/

    Episode 235: Make Choice Rewarding: Behavioral Insights in Marketing with Matthew Willcox https://behavioralgrooves.com/episode/marketing-matthew-willcox/

    The Willpower Instinct by Kelly McGonigal https://www.learningjourneys.net/post/the-willpower-instinct-by-kelly-mcgonigal


    [INTERVIEW] Why Good, Honest Employees Really Do Steal With Kelly Paxton Jul 18, 2021
    Show notes

    Do honest people steal? Our guest, Kelly Paxton investigates and researches low level crimes such as book-keeping fraud; also known as Pink Collar Crime. She discusses how a hostile work environment and the prospect of financial difficulties at home can lead “good” people to rationalize dishonest behavior.

    Kelly Paxton is a former federal agent who was used to dealing with “bad guys.” Once she started working embezzlement cases, she quickly realized that honest people steal.

    The term pink-collar crime describes embezzlement type crimes that are typically committed by females. Can a man be a pink collar criminal? The simple answer is yes. It's the position not the gender but in these "pink" positions there are just more women than men.

    Topics we Discuss With Kelly Paxton

    (4:25) Welcome and speed round questions.

    (6:39) Why you should be concerned if your bookkeeper never takes a vacation.

    (7:15) What is Pink Collar Crime?

    (10:20) How Kelly’s career and curiosity lead her into investigating Pink Collar Crime.

    (14:48) What is The Fraud Triangle?

    (19:14) Do women steal differently than men?

    (28:35) What are the common behaviors of people who embezzle?

    (31:17) Who benefits and who takes the blame for embezzlement?

    (37:53) Who should you trust?

    (42:39) How people rationalize their dishonesty.

    (45:49) What should companies do to prevent pink collar crime?

    (49:49) Kelly's favorite music and playlists.

    Join us on our follow-on discussion in Episode 239 where Kurt and Tim have a Grooving Session on what Kelly has brought up in her interview and how we can apply insight from her interview into our own businesses.

    © 2021 Behavioral Grooves

    Links

    Kelly Paxton: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellypaxton/

    Kelly Paxton, Embezzlement: How to Detect, Prevent, and Investigate Pink-Collar Crime: https://amzn.to/3i57hN1

    Great Women in Fraud: https://greatwomeninfraud.com/

    Great Women in Fraud Podcast: https://podcast.greatwomeninfraud.com/

    Dan Ariely: https://danariely.com/

    The Dishonesty Project: https://www.thedishonestyproject.com/film/

    Pink Collar Crime: https://pinkcollarcrime.com/what-is-pink-collar-crime

    How to Have a Good Day: Harness the Power of Behavioral Science to Transform Your Working Life by Caroline Webb: https://amzn.to/3eAaNhJ

    Episode 33: Caroline Webb: Having a Good Day: https://behavioralgrooves.com/episode/caroline-webb-having-a-good-day/

    Go Fraud Me: http://gofraudme.com/

    Rita Crundwell: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rita_Crundwell

    Talking to Strangers: What We Should Know about the People We Don't Know by Malcolm Gladwell: https://amzn.to/3i1sKGw

    Duped: Truth-Default Theory and the Social Science of Lying and Deception by Timothy Levine: https://amzn.to/3ehpWUC

    Big Little Lies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Little_Lies_(TV_series)

    Episode 86: Christian Hunt: Mitigating Human Risk and The Algorithmic Mind: https://behavioralgrooves.com/episode/christian-hunt-mitigating-human-risk-and-the-algorithmic-mind/

    Behavioral Grooves Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/behavioralgrooves

    Musical Links

    Foo Fighters “The Pretender”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBjQ9tuuTJQ

    Harold Van Lennep “Liberation”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEzMeDybBG0

    Micheal Kiwanuka “Cold Little Heart”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOubjLM9Cbc&ab_channel=MichaelKiwanukaVEVO


    [GROOVING SESSION] Why Good, Honest Employees Really Do Steal With Kelly Paxton Jul 18, 2021
    Show notes

    Continuing our series on Marketing and Employee Engagement this month, we were joined by Kelly Paxton on our latest interview episode: Why Good, Honest Employees Really Do Steal With Kelly Paxton (#240).

    Tim and Kurt discuss their fantastic conversation with Kelly who has authored Embezzlement: How to Detect, Prevent, and Investigate Pink-Collar Crime: https://amzn.to/3i57hN1 and is also the podcast host of Great Women in Fraud: https://podcast.greatwomeninfraud.com/. Kelly investigates and researches low-level crimes such as book-keeping fraud; also known as Pink Collar Crime. We were interested in her insight that a hostile work environment and financial difficulties at home can lead “good” people to rationalize dishonest behavior.

    We Discuss:
    • Rationalizing dishonesty.
    • Steps business leaders can take to avoid fraud.
    • How to convince business leaders that they are vulnerable to embezzlement.
    • Consider the environment you’re creating at work. It matters a great deal.
    • Reviewing your own business habits.
    Links

    Kelly Paxton https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellypaxton/

    Kelly Paxton, Embezzlement: How to Detect, Prevent, and Investigate Pink-Collar Crime https://amzn.to/3i57hN1

    Great Women in Fraud https://greatwomeninfraud.com/

    Great Women in Fraud Podcast https://podcast.greatwomeninfraud.com/

    From Prison Cells to PhDs https://www.fromprisoncellstophd.org/

    © 2021 Behavioral Grooves


    Who Makes You Feel Grateful? Tell Them! With Chester Elton Jul 14, 2021
    Show notes

    When did a colleague last thank you for your work? Managers generally underappreciate their employees, but more importantly, they tend to undervalue the benefits of expressing their gratitude. Best-selling author, speaker and executive coach, Chester Elton has a lighthearted discussion with us about the value of expressing gratitude. What makes gratitude different to recognition? And how do you create a grateful work environment?

    Chester, along with his co-author, Adrian Gostick, have sold millions of books on how to lead with gratitude. In our conversation with Chester, he tells us how there is disparity between how well managers believe they are expressing their gratitude and how employees feel they are valued. To create a work environment based on gratitude, your colleagues need to know their work is appreciated. Showing gratitude to employees is the easiest, fastest and most inexpensive way to boost performance.

    Topics

    (5:07) Welcome to Chester Elton and speed round questions

    (8:03) Why being grateful brings us joy

    (14:27) Be specific with praise

    (17:16) The benefits of random acts of kindness

    (22:33) What’s the difference between gratitude and recognition?

    (23:48) How to create a work environment filled with gratitude

    (31:36) Your inner voice and why it matters

    (35:08) Chester’s Covid playlist

    (43:16) Grooving Session discussing how to apply Chester’s insights:

    • Gratitude at work
    • Recognition that we’re on track
    • Expressing gratitude is not always through words
    • Psychological safety at work
    Links

    Chester Elton https://chesterelton.com/

    Leading with Gratitude: Eight Leadership Practices for Extraordinary Business Results by Adrian Gostick & Chester Elton https://amzn.to/36Cy8uo

    Leading with Gratitude Podcast with Chester Elton https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5idXp6c3Byb3V0LmNvbS8xMzI1MDUzLnJzcw?sa=X&ved=0CAMQ4aUDahcKEwjAoN-0keDxAhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQAg&hl=en

    Leading with Gratitude Live https://vimeo.com/search?q=Leading%20with%20Gratitude%20Chester%20Elton

    We Thrive Together https://www.wethrivetogether.global/

    The Gratitude Journal – LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/the-gratitude-journal-6665677019063345152/

    Anxiety at Work with Adrian Gostick & Chester Elton https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/anxiety-at-work-with-adrian-gostick-chester-elton/id1549312484

    Roger Federer https://www.rogerfederer.com/

    Rod Laver https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Laver

    John McEnroe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McEnroe

    Chris Hadfield https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Hadfield

    Bill Manning https://www.torontofc.ca/content/bill-manning

    Think Like a Monk: Train Your Mind for Peace and Purpose Every Day by Jay Shetty https://amzn.to/3h8mptC

    Calm app https://www.calm.com/

    Dan Airely https://danariely.com/

    IKEA Effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IKEA_effect

    Episode 170: Seven Questions to Assess the Psychological Safety of Your Teams with Susan Hunt Stevens https://behavioralgrooves.com/episode/seven-questions-to-assess-the-psychological-safety-of-your-teams-with-susan-hunt-stevens/

    Episode 220: How Do You Become Influential? Jon Levy Reveals His Surprising Secrets https://behavioralgrooves.com/episode/how-to-be-influential-jon-levy/

    Books by Chester Elton and Adrian Gostick

    Leading with Gratitude: Eight Leadership Practices for Extraordinary Business Results https://amzn.to/36Cy8uo

    Anxiety at Work: 8 Strategies to Help Teams Build Resilience, Handle Uncertainty, and Get Stuff Done https://amzn.to/3dr7gBK

    All In: How the Best Managers Create a Culture of Belief and Drive Big Results https://amzn.to/3AgtSyk

    The Best Team Wins: The New Science of High Performance https://amzn.to/2USP4KN

    The Orange Revolution: How One Great Team Can Transform an Entire Organization https://amzn.to/3ybULSb

    Musical Links

    Bonnie Raitt “Something to Talk About” https://youtu.be/mJ58TVYNFro

    Talking Heads “Psycho Killer” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O52jAYa4Pm8

    Pharrell Williams “Happy” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbZSe6N_BXs

    Danny Boy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ppdB6JX99Q


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