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    Beat Your Genes Podcast

    Evolutionary psychology with Dr. Doug Lisle, PhD and Nathan Gershfeld, D.C.

    Most psychology advice treats your brain like a broken machine. Beat Your Genes starts somewhere different: your instincts aren’t broken. They’re just optimized for a Stone Age environment that no longer exists.

    Dr. Lisle – Evolutionary psychologist, former Stanford lecturer, and co-author of The Pleasure Trap – has spent decades developing frameworks that explain human behavior from the ground up.

    Nathan Gershfeld, D.C. – trained first as an electrical engineer and then spent 14 years as a Doctor of Chiropractic. He brings a systems thinker’s curiosity to every conversation. He mostly lets Dr. Lisle talk.

    Topics include relationships and attraction, self-esteem, personality, depression and anxiety, willpower, the ego trap, and how pushy people exploit agreeable ones.

    380+ episodes. New episodes every other week.

    New here? Start at beatyourgenes.org/start-here

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    Latest Episodes:
    304: Information Overload, Do Humans procreate for help later in life?, How much does income/status matter for a woman? Apr 06, 2023
    Show notes

    In today's show, Dr. Lisle and Howk discuss the following questions:

    1. Has the team discussed how information overload impedes progress and making changes to one's health? I'd assume one can overdo information gathering, whether it's from podcasts, books, or blogs. As a clinician, how can we help clients get out of this stagnant, noncommittal place? Also, it seems to cause people a lot of stress and anxiety when they have too many thoughts going on in their heads. I have to imagine it gets to a point where it's harmful?

    2. It was recently mentioned on the show that there isn't any relationship that isnt a trade. I was hoping the doctors could discuss the trade aspect of a mother child relationship specifically from the mother's perspective… as in what is she getting? I understand its the hormones that dictate the bond and that she is saving her genes.. is there more to it though like at some level is there also an awareness of gains from the children when they are adults in the future?

    3. How much does a woman's income and occupational status matter to the typical man's nervous system in regards to pair-bonding? I've seen men express desire for high-earning women with high-status careers but am not sure if it is because these traits inspire pair-bond "love" feelings in men or if they are just viewing potential long-term relationships in a utilitarian way.

    For the upcoming True to Life seminar, visit: www.TruetoLife.us

    Copyright Beat Your Genes Podcast

    Host: Nathan Gershfeld

    Interviewees: Doug Lisle, Ph.D. and Jen Howk, PhD

    www.BeatYourGenes.org

    Intro & outro song: City of Happy Ones · Ferenc Hegedus


    303: Awakening a Dormant Circuit, Social Climbing vs. Meaningful relationships Mar 23, 2023
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    In today's episode, Dr. Lisle & Howk discuss the following questions:

    1. Jordan Peterson mentioned briefly in a video that increasing oxytocin can increase agreeableness. He also gives advice that agreeable people can become more disagreeable by "waking the circuit up" if it's laying dormant in you. He thinks we have a wide range of genetic propensities, some that are switched on and it's possible to switch other propensities on. Is there evidence to support either of these theories?

    2. Could the doctors talk about "social climbing"? I have family members who spend much of their free time and resources trying to networking with higher status people. They join different country clubs, go to fancy fundraisers, and will cancel plans with people they have known for years if an opportunity with a fancier new acquaintance arises. They often bring up income and status in conversation, which I find a bit off putting. I can't decide if this is pseudo esteem seeking, personality cancer, or a legitimate way to make real connections that matter for extroverts. Can this pursuit lead to meaningful relationships?


    302: Abused/Battered women, Obsessed with a competitor, Overpopulation & Mental health Mar 09, 2023
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    In today's episode, Dr. Lisle and Dr. Howk discuss the following listener questions:

    1. How do you square the notion that there is "no 1 mate" (or job, friend etc) with the jealousy/abuse/ stalking (and worse) that happens in relationships. What type of general education on this concept could be offered to attempt to mitigate such costly stone age behavior. Related, can u talk about the treatment of battered women in your practice, how they do or don't escape? Buss claims one contributing cause of such behavior is patriarchal culture and institutionalized male dominance. Any truth to that or is this just genetic like everything else?
    2. I have a frenemy (that is, a friend who was really an enemy) who I've long lost touch with, but whom I still irresistibly stalk on social media. She was very competitive with me in college, although I drastically outperformed her at the time (I was the dux and she was upper-middling). Nevertheless, she went on to similar feats as me, getting her PhD from Yale (again, the same as me). I see her subtweeting things about me occasionally and I wonder why, after not being friends for so long, we both harbour a malevolent obsession about each other? What is the evolutionary good of this? Neither of us stands to gain anything from this and we've both achieved what we wanted, showing that it wasn't the zero-sum game we might've thought during our early college years. She has become a tenure-track professor while I started a very successful company and am now a millionaire. Why do we ruminate so much about enemies/frenemies, and how can be finally move on from them?
    3. I was wondering what over population does to a society. I understand nothing is changing genetically but was curious how lived experiences differ between populated densely packed cities and villages/ towns. Is one better than the other for mental health?

    Episode 300 Mar 02, 2023
    Show notes

    In our 300th episode (actually episode 301, but we wanted to save it for Dr. Howk), Dr. Lisle and Dr. Howk take a break from solving listener problems and answering listener questions and instead turn towards answering some fun, personal questions.


    301: Genetics,BPD, Getting Your Health on Track,Group performance,Nosy Neighbors Feb 09, 2023
    Show notes

    Upcoming seminar Sun, Feb 19: True to Life Seminar - visit www.TrueToLife.us to register.

    In this show, Dr. Lisle discusses: 1. I am still trying to figure out genetics and evolution (I wasn't taught it), so I might be way oversimplifying this. If you get a set of genes from your parents and they get a set of genes from each of their parents, wouldn't you be able to track a certain genetic trait as being from either one of your parents or one of their parents? 2. You have previously explained borderline personality. Can we have a refresher on this, and do you have a better moniker it? 3. If you had to map out the very best way to get on the right track or stay on the right track for my health, What would be the best things for me to do? 4. My organization is constantly trying to access and improve 'group performance' and there are a variety of corporate tools marketed to optimize the effectiveness of work Teams. Is this bunk or does this have any relevance. More broadly, what do you think of "Organizational Psychology?" and does this relate? 5. My wife and I recently moved to a very exclusive neighbourhood. It's a small, rich neighbourhood and we thought before we moved here that we would enjoy a lot of privacy and that people would keep to themselves. However, we have discovered to our horror hat we have extremely nosy, over-friendly, and slightly interfering neighbours. What can I do to enforce boundaries without falling out with them and potentially creating even bigger issues?


    299:Eugenics & EvoPsych, Child threatens suicide, Bad child blaming good parents Jan 26, 2023
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    1. I am curious about an unpopular subject: systematic eugenics. Has "random" selection in the mating market already produced the best possible human genes combinations? Could we generate humans with drastically higher IQ, strength, size, speed, athleticism, beauty, etc? What do you think is the hypothetical limit of human genetic potential for outlier individuals and for the average of a population? This kind of discussion is often obscured by the obvious practical and ethical problems, rather than what it could theoretically achieve.

    2.My husband's daughter is extremely disagreeable, low conscientiousness, low IQ, highly introverted, open to drugs and alcohol and unstable. She is in constant crisis and is constantly threatening suicide. My husband and I have really tried to be there for her and never miss a call, but her constant cries for attention are draining and have taken years off our lives. I don't want to discount anything that she is feeling but my and my husband's mental health are really suffering and we don't know what to do.

    3.How do you respond to a child who has no recognition of their limitations? i.e. on the verge of being fired because they constantly call in "sick," show up late, don't do their job. Or the child who barely passed chemistry but says they are going to med school? Even if we say "That's great, but I understand med school is a lot of work" she gets mad and tells us and all her friends that we told her that she was a loser and a failure and because of us, she isn't going to med school anymore and instead she's stuck in a minimum wage job. Then she gets depressed at what might have been if we hadn't held her back. But if we say nothing, then she tries and fails (or fails to try) and becomes depressed and that somehow becomes our fault too.

    Copyright Beat Your Genes Podcast

    Host: Nathan Gershfeld

    Interviewee: Doug Lisle, Ph.D. and Jen Howk, Ph.D.

    Podcast website: www.BeatYourGenes.org

    True to Life seminars with Dr. Lisle and Dr. Howk : www.TrueToLife.us

    Intro & outro song: City of Happy Ones · Ferenc Hegedus


    298: Depression in the modern world vs. Stone Age Jan 12, 2023
    Show notes

    In today's episode, Dr. Lisle and Dr. Howk discuss the following question:

    1. Given that depression is inherently demotivating (because it is failure feedback that tells you to stop what you're doing), how might one 'bootstrap' oneself into more positive, motivated mood states? I wonder what people in the Stone Age village would have done to bounce back from failure feedback; it makes most of us want to curl into a ball and die. How does depression actually end up benefiting and motivating us?

    Copyright Beat Your Genes Podcast

    Host: Nathan Gershfeld

    Interviewee: Doug Lisle, Ph.D. and Jen Howk, Ph.D.

    Podcast website: www.BeatYourGenes.org

    True to Life seminars with Dr. Lisle and Dr. Howk : www.TrueToLife.us

    Intro & outro song: City of Happy Ones · Ferenc Hegedus


    295: Nothing satisfies, Euthanasia, Tragedies, Adrenaline junkies, Homophobia Jan 05, 2023
    Show notes

    In today's show (episode 295), Dr. Lisle discusses the following questions:

    1. I am a 35 year old female and I don't know what to do with my life. I have a bachelors degree in biochemistry and doctorate degree in pharmacy. I worked as a clinical pharmacist for a year but I got bored and I quit. Then I worked as a massage therapist, a real estate agent, and a dental hygienist. I got bored of these as well. They just didn't satisfy me, even though I don't even know what I'm looking for or what I want. My relationships are the same as my careers - casual at best with many different men. I really want to settle down in a career and relationship but I just seem unable to. What should I do?
    2. The euthanasia law changes in Canada to include mental illness as a valid reason seem deeply disturbing to me based on an evolutionary psychology perspective for people in the majority of situations. This would have been considered a "slippery slope" argument on euthanasia in the past, I cannot see how they are considered logical fallacies anymore at this point. What is your libertarian perspective on this issue given your wealth of knowledge within these areas?
    3. My son recently became disabled. If "finding yourself in good circumstances" is what leads to feelings of happiness, how will I ever feel happiness again? How could I ever feel "happiness" for him if everything about his life is now difficult and painful. These are not good circumstances. My pain and sadness for him and his future is indescribable.
    4. Can you discuss adrenaline rush and the people who seek it? especially with respect to free climbers.. i mean i get the status acquisition part but god are they crazy ?
    5. I am curious about how homophobic sentiment arose in humans. Has it always been there?

    Copyright Beat Your Genes Podcast

    Host: Nathan Gershfeld

    Interviewee: Doug Lisle, Ph.D. and Jen Howk, Ph.D.

    Podcast website: www.BeatYourGenes.org

    True to Life seminars with Dr. Lisle and Dr. Howk : www.TrueToLife.us

    Intro & outro song: City of Happy Ones · Ferenc Hegedus


    297: It's the End of the... Year 2022 Dec 29, 2022
    Show notes

    In our final show of 2022, Dr. Howk and Dr. Lisle have a discussion about current events and the year to come. For more information on their upcoming "True to Life" Seminar being held live & virtually on Feb 19th , please visit www.TruetoLife.us

    Copyright Beat Your Genes Podcast

    Host: Nathan Gershfeld

    Interviewee: Doug Lisle, Ph.D. and Jen Howk, Ph.D.

    Podcast website: www.BeatYourGenes.org

    True to Life seminars with Dr. Lisle and Dr. Howk : www.TrueToLife.us

    Intro & outro song: City of Happy Ones · Ferenc Hegedus


    294: Cultural appropriation/Oppression Olympics, Mate choice, Finding dream job Dec 22, 2022
    Show notes

    Dr. Lisle & Dr. Howk are having a virtual seminar Sunday Feb 19, 2023. Visit www.TrueToLife.us for details!

    In today's episode, the Dr's discuss:

    1. Could you discuss cultural appropriation? Especially with regards to not sporting wigs etc I for one really admire when people dress up like people from my culture and use the same hair and face accessories even though in the past we were under colonial rule and oppressed.
    2. Are men, now, in a world where women also make a lot of money, willing to sleep down if they themselves don't make much money?
    3. In episode 288, the Dr's talked about how one might stumble into a dream job - and exposed the dynamics that would have likely taken place. Could you help us get some idea of how young people in their 20s can increase the likelihood of stumbling into a good fit job.

    Copyright Beat Your Genes Podcast

    Host: Nathan Gershfeld

    Interviewee: Doug Lisle, Ph.D. and Jen Howk, Ph.D.

    Podcast website: www.BeatYourGenes.org

    True to Life seminars with Dr. Lisle and Dr. Howk : www.TrueToLife.us

    Intro & outro song: City of Happy Ones · Ferenc Hegedus


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