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    ROLLUP: Saylor Risk? | Warsh’s New Fed | SpaceX IPO | Coinbase’s Everything Exchange Jun 19, 2026
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    Equities are rallying, but Bitcoin is breaking down. David and Tom unpack Saylor’s STRC stress, Warsh’s first FOMC, SpaceX’s mega-IPO, Jito’s breakout, Coinbase’s Everything Exchange, and why perps may be crypto’s next real growth engine.

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    TIMESTAMPS & RESOURCES


    0:00 Intro


    3:07 Equities Up, Crypto Down: STRC Stress

    https://x.com/PeterSchiff/status/2067629492214829114

    https://x.com/zackvoell/status/2067628541257429213

    https://x.com/R89Capital/status/2067608064627491009

    https://x.com/jdorman81/status/2067616073479078386


    11:21 First FOMC with Kevin Warsh

    https://www.businessinsider.com/kevin-warsh-first-fomc-fed-meeting-interest-rates-2026-6


    16:35 SpaceX Becomes One of the World’s Most Valuable Companies


    25:43 Mover of the Month: JTO


    31:01 Coinbase System Update

    https://www.coinbase.com/blog/system-update-take-control-of-your-money-with-coinbase

    https://x.com/oost_marcel/status/2067268725883981841

    https://x.com/coinbase/status/2066890566667796530

    https://www.theblock.co/post/405012/coinbase-unveils-system-update-unlocking-an-ai-advisor-global-unified-liquidity-options-trading-and-more


    37:42 Anchorage Brings Hyperliquid to Institutions

    https://x.com/nathanmccauley/status/2066906951464947966


    46:23 Blockworks Acquires Messari

    https://x.com/blockworks/status/2065468327120576863


    50:40 UK Moves to Ban Social Media for Children

    https://x.com/keir_starmer/status/2066458640010158571


    57:50 Polymarket World Cup Trade

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    https://polymarket.com/event/world-cup-winner


    59:50 Closing & Disclaimers


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    How Re is Rebuilding the $1T Reinsurance Market with Stablecoins | Karn Saroya & Avichal Garg Jun 18, 2026
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    Re is bringing the $1T reinsurance market onchain. Founder Karn Saroya and Electric Capital’s Avichal Garg join David to unpack how stablecoins can become a new capital source for insurance, why real-world reinsurance may offer crypto’s missing “real yield,” and how Re is using Ethereum, smart contracts, and AI to compete with legacy giants like Lloyd’s of London, Munich Re, and Swiss Re. They also discuss the RE token, the future of onchain capital markets, and why stablecoins could become the backbone of a new financial system.

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    0:00 Intro

    2:13 Blockchain Reinsurance Edge

    4:12 Stablecoin Capital Markets

    9:17 Efficiency Beats Incumbents

    13:02 Rewiring Insurance Plumbing

    16:24 Durable Startup Advantage

    23:26 Reinsurance Market Size

    30:09 How Reinsurance Pays

    32:42 Capital Stack Mechanics

    35:52 Leverage and Yield

    40:02 What $RE Tracks

    41:34 Tranche Yields

    42:36 Productive Capital Returns

    44:47 Looping the Receipts

    48:01 $RE Token Governance

    51:26 Roadmap to a Billion

    52:13 Onchain Adoption Ahead

    56:02 The DeFi Mullet Future


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    Why The Pokémon Card Market Is Blowing Up | Andy8052 Jun 17, 2026
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    Pokemon cards are suddenly one of the hottest markets in collectibles. But why now, and what does it have to do with crypto? Andy8052 joins David to break down the rise of digital pack-opening platforms, the nostalgia-driven bull case for Pokémon, why grading companies have a stranglehold on the market, and how millions of dollars of real-world cards are slowly moving onchain. Are tokenized collectibles the next NFT comeback story, or just another frothy mania?

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    0:00 NFTs to Pokémon Cards

    2:59 Why Pokémon Is Hot

    8:13 Nostalgia Meets Disposable Income

    11:56 Brands, Influencers, and Hype

    15:06 Pricing the Cards

    16:21 Grading and Market Bottlenecks

    22:16 Why Cards Still Aren't On-Chain

    30:06 Inside Monster Strategy

    34:40 Market Consolidation Ahead

    35:42 Vaults, Shipping, and Logistics

    38:13 Kids, Parents, and Collecting

    40:45 Nostalgia Is the Real Bull Case

    43:45 Where to Find Andy

    44:35 Tokenized Cards and Stablecoins


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    Perps Are Coming Onshore | CFTC Chairman Mike Selig Jun 15, 2026
    Show notes

    Perps are coming onshore. CFTC Chairman Mike Selig joins David to unpack the first U.S.-regulated Bitcoin perpetual futures contract, the end of regulation by enforcement, and what comes next for Coinbase, Kalshi, Kraken, Gemini, Hyperliquid, Lighter, and the broader U.S. perp market. They also discuss which assets could list next, how U.S. leverage will differ from offshore exchanges, and why equity perps, RWAs, and 24/7 trading may be the next frontier of American finance.

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    0:00 Intro

    3:32 Self-Certified Crypto Contracts

    7:08 Chasing the U.S. Perps Market

    9:00 Bringing Liquidity Onshore

    10:18 U.S. Market Guardrails

    12:44 Blockchain Transparency Advantage

    19:17 Hyperliquid and Onchain Perps

    23:09 Real-World Asset Perps

    24:38 Equity Perps & SEC

    26:35 Incumbents Versus Disruptors

    31:28 Derivatives Dominating Crypto

    33:16 Perps Are Just Beginning


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    ROLLUP: One More Dip? | Saylor Sold | IPO Season | Ethereum vs ETH Jun 12, 2026
    Show notes

    Bitcoin is back at Biden-era prices, ETFs are bleeding, and Saylor just did the thing he said never to do: sell. Ryan and David unpack whether crypto has one more drop left, what trillion-dollar IPOs reveal about broken capital markets, and why their ETH debate may be the real fight for Ethereum’s future.


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    TIMESTAMPS & RESOURCES


    0:00 Intro


    3:07 Markets

    https://x.com/aggrnews/status/2063954465678410121

    https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2026/06/01/analysts-agree-strategy-s-bitcoin-sale-was-immaterial-differ-on-future-signals

    https://imgur.com/SDyYiQS

    https://x.com/WatcherGuru/status/2063964293478101014

    https://x.com/zoomerfied/status/2062288919853490553

    https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/bitmine-immersion-technologies-announces-pricing-of-upsized-series-a-perpetual-preferred-stock-offering-302792359.html

    https://thedefiant.io/news/tradfi-and-fintech/bitmine-files-300m-preferred-stock-offering-9-5-yield-eth-treasury

    https://www.coindesk.com/business/2026/06/03/tom-lee-s-bitmine-to-offer-preferred-stock-with-9-5-dividend-seeking-to-raise-usd300-million

    https://imgur.com/tvIDofV

    https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/2065049515384582205

    https://polymarket.com/event/fed-rate-hike-in-2026

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/jun/11/ecb-eurozone-interest-rates-iran-war-inflation


    30:11 IPO Season

    https://app.lighter.xyz/trade/SPACEX

    https://app.lighter.xyz/trade/ANTHROPIC

    https://app.lighter.xyz/trade/OPENAI


    36:29 Bankless Guys Are Fighting

    https://x.com/steweycrypto/status/2062796930326094216

    https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/2062598415482245528

    https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/2062599824491372906

    https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/2062612677466202281

    https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/2062644365533622705

    https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/2062669134614466707

    https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/2062674368195686809

    https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/2062745848673427471

    https://x.com/Tommyb631/status/2062613008304451756


    55:39 Morpho Flips Aave

    https://morpho.org/blog/morpho-association-raises-175m-to-build-the-open-credit-network-for-the-world/

    https://x.com/0xLouisT/status/2063963380000407881


    58:04 ZEC Vulnerability & Jason Calacanis’ Crypto-to-AI Tweet

    https://x.com/Jason/status/2064083020257055193

    coindesk.com/.../zcash-plummets-30-as-developer-reveals-a-major-bug

    forum.zcashcommunity.com/.../orchard-counterfeiting-vulnerability


    1:02:55 Hester Peirce Almost Out

    https://x.com/hesterpeirce/status/2064768651488608612

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    1:06:03 World Cup Starts

    https://polymarket.com/event/world-cup-winner


    1:07:26 Closing & Disclaimers


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    Is $LIT Cheap? | Will Price and Flip Jun 09, 2026
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    Hyperliquid has become the breakout perp exchange of crypto. But is the market missing its biggest competitor? Delphi’s Flip and DeFi investor Will Price join David to make the case for Lighter, a ZK-powered Ethereum L2 with zero-fee retail trading, white-glove distribution, real-world asset perps, and a token buying back revenue at a surprising rate. Is LIT just a Hyperliquid beta trade, or is it one of the most underpriced bets in onchain finance?

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    0:00 Intro

    3:05 Why Lighter Is Different

    5:32 ZK Rollup Advantages

    6:46 Charging Traders, Not Retail

    12:07 Fairness Without MEV

    14:50 Why Hyperliquid Can’t Copy

    18:03 Distribution Beyond Crypto

    22:08 Latency & Flow Quality

    26:50 Technical Edge Across the Stack

    30:31 RWAs & Pre-IPO Markets

    34:07 U.S. Perps Market Play

    36:05 Back-End For Big Brokers

    38:28 Bootstrapping Liquidity

    41:54 Lighter As A Platform

    46:34 Token Value & Buybacks

    50:11 Market Cap Versus FDV

    53:02 Valuing LIT Properly

    57:51 Cracked Team & Better Comms

    58:13 Joining The Lighter Community

    58:51 What Comes Next


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    RESOURCES


    Will Price

    https://x.com/will__price


    Trevor Flipper

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    Venice is Here to Win: How a Private AI Company Plans to Take On OpenAI and Anthropic Jun 08, 2026
    Show notes

    AI is quickly becoming the interface through which people think, work, and make decisions—but most users have no idea how much personal data they're handing over in the process. Jon and Jesse from Venice join David to make the case for privacy-first AI, explain why Venice is aiming to become a mainstream consumer AI brand, and explore how $VVV and DIEM transform inference into a crypto-economic primitive.
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    1:12 Why Private AI Matters
    3:01 The AI Data Honeypot
    6:07 Venice’s Consumer AI Ambition
    8:01 Beating the Big AI Labs
    10:19 Model Aggregation and Agentic Chat
    12:29 Open Source, Closed Source, and Private Grok
    17:14 Who Actually Needs Private AI?
    21:58 Venice’s User Base
    23:53 What Drove Venice’s Recent Growth
    27:21 $VVV, DIEM, and Tokenized Inference
    29:00 Where Venice Gets Its Compute
    32:17 Bonding Curves and DIEM Monetary Policy
    39:14 Real Tokenomics, Not Just a Pie Chart
    45:46 AI Agents Need Inference to Exist
    52:54 ShapeShift DNA Inside Venice
    55:53 Regulation, AI, and Individual Rights
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    Jon ShapeShift
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    Jesse Proudman
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    ROLLUP: Bitcoin’s Confidence Game | Bitmine’s ETH Bet | Token Rotation | U.S. Perps Jun 05, 2026
    Show notes

    Bitcoin is bleeding, STRC is off peg, and Saylor’s “never sell” machine is facing its first real confidence test. David and Haseeb unpack whether Strategy can survive without selling BTC, why Bitmine’s ETH play may be stronger but riskier, and what select token strength, U.S. perps, and Coinbase’s Ethena deal reveal about crypto’s next phase.

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    0:00 Intro


    1:37 Saylor & Strategy Confidence Test

    https://x.com/zerohedge/status/2061418482344849785

    https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/2062475802252365980

    https://x.com/glxyresearch/status/2062518531128746000

    https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/2062499179239215390


    13:26 DATs Underwater & Bitmine Preferred Offering

    https://x.com/lookonchain/status/2062011412965405059

    https://x.com/zoomerfied/status/2062288919853490553


    34:19 Major Weakness & Select Token Strength


    40:45 U.S. Perps Get Greenlit

    https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2026/05/28/u-s-cftc-opens-crypto-perp-door-with-approval-of-first-regulated-firm


    53:41 Coinbase Invests in Ethena

    https://www.theblock.co/post/403403/coinbase-invests-ethena-open-market-purchase-ena-flags-new-partnership


    57:13 Closing & Disclaimers


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    Capitol Hill War Stories from a DC Lobbyist Who’s Seen It All (SBF, Gensler, Elizabeth Warren) Jun 04, 2026
    Show notes

    Crypto policy in Washington has gone from punchline to power center. David sits down with Ron Hammond, Head of Policy and Advocacy at Wintermute, for a rare inside look at how crypto actually moves through DC: the SBF era, Elizabeth Warren’s anti-crypto army, Gary Gensler’s SEC, bank lobby pressure, Trump’s crypto conflicts, the Clarity Act fight, and why privacy and self-custody may be the next major battleground.
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    0:00 Becoming “Captain Crypto” in DC
    4:03 From Joke to Serious Political Force
    6:19 Why Crypto Punches Above Its Weight
    10:28 How SBF Captured Washington
    13:26 The FTX Fallout in Capitol Hill
    16:25 Elizabeth Warren and Crypto’s Proxy Wars
    19:04 How DC Letters Actually Get Written
    25:33 How Powerful Is the Crypto Lobby?
    27:28 Who Is Playing on Crypto’s Side?
    31:01 Democrats, Gensler, and the 2024 Lesson
    35:07 The Gensler Era and Prometheum
    41:21 Will Warren Ever Pivot?
    43:20 Trump, the Crypto Ball, and World Liberty
    49:30 Will the Clarity Act Pass?
    53:30 Privacy, Self-Custody, and the Next Front
    56:23 The Social Side of Crypto in DC
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    "ZODL is to Zcash What Coinbase Was to Bitcoin" | Josh Swihart on ZEC’s Awakening Jun 01, 2026
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    What happens when every payment, wallet, and onchain interaction becomes searchable by governments, companies, adversaries, and AI? Josh Swihart, founder and CEO of Zcash Open Development Lab, joins David to explain why Zcash is having a major privacy comeback, how ZODL and the Zashi wallet helped unlock real shielded adoption, why the shielded pool may be the most important ZEC metric, and what it will take for private money to become too big to kill.
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    4:17 Privacy in the AI Era
    6:19 Crypto’s Missing Privacy Layer
    9:49 The Political Fight for Privacy
    14:42 Can Crypto Retain Privacy?
    16:47 From Zashi to ZODL
    19:48 The Zcash Reawakening
    21:41 Balaji, Funding, and the Mission
    24:49 Product Market Fit for Shielded ZEC
    27:51 ZODL's Role in the Zcash Stack
    29:36 The Zcash Roadmap
    32:56 What Is ZEC and is it Undervalued?
    36:56 The Shielded Pool Explained
    45:12 The $25M ZODL Raise
    47:16 Compliance and Shielded ZEC
    51:25 Institutions vs Cypherpunk Values
    53:58 Personal Privacy in an AI World
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