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ROUNDTABLE: The REV Debate - Real Metric or Fake News? Jon, Bread, & Andy8052 May 21, 2025

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In this episode of the Bankless Podcast, hosts discuss Real Economic Value (REV). Triggered by Jon's exploration of how ETH and SOL prices correlate with REV, the team delves into REV's role as a value capture metric and demand signal for blockchain networks. We evaluate the implications for network valuations, debate the sustainability of relying on REV, and analyze competitive dynamics between Ethereum and Solana. The conversation concludes with musings on crypto investment risks and the evolving identity of digital currencies in relation to app utility.

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Bread: https://x.com/0xBreadguy
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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 REV
https://x.com/jon_charb/status/1923739890115543264
https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/1924835154700234866

17:56 Stablecoins vs Native Currencies

28:38 Tribalism
https://x.com/post_polar_/status/1924458711940055246
https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1924202146117153172

39:30 The Trenches
https://dune.com/beincrypto/solana-launchpads

49:14 Pump . Fun

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Arthur Hayes: Money Printing & The Crypto Bet May 19, 2025

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Arthur Hayes returns to Bankless for a wide-ranging macro and crypto conversation.

We cover why ETH ripped, why the Trump administration might walk away from US treasuries as the global reserve asset, and why capital controls—not tariffs—could redefine the global economic order. Arthur lays out his full thesis on how a massive shift in global liquidity is unfolding, what it means for crypto, and why he’s betting big on Bitcoin, gold, and “buying everything” as the money printers rev up again.

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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Intro
0:34 ETH’s Back?
2:25 Bretton Woods
7:38 The Petrodollar
9:37 The Petroyuan
17:47 US China Trade Imbalances
20:22 Liberation Day & Tariffs
33:19 Capital Controls
38:42 US Capital Flights
44:51 Dual Monetary System
49:08 Bitcoin as a Reserve Currency?
50:19 Buy Everything Except Bonds
53:07 Scott Bessent
57:02 QE is Inevitable
1:02:15 Stablecoins
1:06:55 Trump’s Pro-Crypto Campaign
1:11:44 Global Liquidity
1:21:20 Gold Reevaluation
1:25:18 Hot War Scenario
1:29:54 Arthur’s Bags
1:30:33 Crypto Cycle
1:35:07 Closing & Disclaimers

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RESOURCES

Arthur Hayes X
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Arthur’s Blog Post
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LinkedIn
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ROLLUP: ETH Pumps 50% | Tariff Deal Boosts Markets | Coinbase Data Leak | Robinhood Buys L2 May 16, 2025

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This week, Ryan and David break down Ethereum’s explosive 50% surge and the surprising macro catalyst behind it: a U.S.–China tariff deal that has markets ripping. They cover Coinbase’s massive customer data leak (and Brian Armstrong’s $20M bounty response), Robinhood’s stealthy Layer 2 acquisition, and the rise of meme coins funding real apps. Plus, why Arthur Hayes thinks the bull market is just beginning.

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TIMESTAMPS & RESOURCES

0:00 Intro

0:06 “Who is laughing now?” statement from NYC Mayor
https://x.com/WatcherGuru/status/1922036267685908761

3:47 Prices, Uniswap, & Aave
https://x.com/jbrukh/status/1922315929578299580
https://dune.com/mud2monarch/countdown-to-three-trillion-united-states-dollars
https://x.com/StaniKulechov/status/1921478583337312339
https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1921925615923388864
https://l2beat.com/scaling/summary

14:10 Tariff Truce - US and China agree to slash tariffs for 90 days - We’re Saved!!!
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/12/us-and-china-agree-to-slash-tariffs-for-90-days.html
https://x.com/biancoresearch/status/1921927955573264802
https://polymarket.com/event/us-recession-in-2025
https://cryptohayes.substack.com/p/fatty-fatty-boom-boom

28:40 Bad Coinbase news first - Coinbase MAJOR customer data leak
Coinbase $20m award leading to the arrest of hackers
https://x.com/brian_armstrong/status/1922967787309256807
https://x.com/coinbase/status/1922967576209998133
https://x.com/0xBreadguy/status/1923006791031587248
https://x.com/adamscochran/status/1923018728800686532
https://x.com/lemiscate/status/1922984240318193934

35:48 Coinbase becomes the first crypto company in S&P500
https://x.com/iamdcinvestor/status/1922068706084970750
https://x.com/cbfutures/status/1920850444093448225
https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/NASDAQ-COIN/

37:28 Internet Capital Markets Meta
https://www.jellyjelly.com/
https://dexscreener.com/solana/3bc2e2rxcfvf9op22lvbansvwos2t98q6ercroayqydq
https://x.com/gabrielhaines/status/1922293923420000346
https://www.believescreener.com/
https://x.com/believeapp/status/1922780481684148519
https://x.com/alex_leiman/status/1922075531966550488
https://x.com/msg/status/1922708357686743551
https://x.com/pasternak/status/1922493500504867290
https://dune.com/adam_tehc/memecoin-wars
https://x.com/WazzCrypto/status/1922826087467204636
https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/1922635525992644770
https://x.com/pumpdotfun/status/1921941742854512924?
https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1922006135520764094

50:29 Robinhood will acquire Kevin O’Leary-Backed WonderFi - Leads to ETH L2.
https://x.com/RobinhoodApp/status/1922245928691421671
https://www.wonder.fi

52:12 CryptoPunks have a new owner!
https://x.com/cryptopunksnfts/status/1922291088431448396
https://x.com/econoar/status/1922339944774664660
https://www.coingecko.com/en/nft

53:46 Is the SEC becoming awesome now? pro-capital, pro-crypto SEC
Paul Atkins said that his priority is to develop new rules for crypto tokens
https://x.com/WatcherGuru/status/1921977322871140360
https://x.com/SECGov/status/1922001045087027349
https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1920585655039529220
https://www.sec.gov/files/ctf-memo-blackrock-05092025.pdf

58:42 Superstate is launching Opening Bell platform with their first client!
https://x.com/superstatefunds/status/1920479311728869826

1:00:01 JD Vance will speak at Bitcoin 2025
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/politics/u-s-vice-president-jd-vance-to-speak-at-bitcoin-2025-confer

1:00:32 Meta is exploring stabecoins again!
https://x.com/degeneratenews/status/1920557131201122806

1:01:59 Closing & Disclaimers

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How ETH Wins | Ryan & David May 15, 2025

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Ryan and David reunite on Bankless Takes with a big question: What must Ethereum do to win?

Ryan champions a memetic and cultural shift, calling for ETH maximalism and nationalism to reignite belief in ETH as a monetary asset. David brings a product-driven roadmap, urging Ethereum to strengthen its L1 as the economic hub of the internet.

Together, they explore a vision for a unified Ethereum that can scale, coordinate, and ultimately win. This isn’t just a talk—it’s a strategy session for Ethereum’s future.

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TIMESTAMPS & RESOURCES

0:00 Intro
3:21 Job’s Not Finished
10:11 A Call for Maximalism

13:10 Blue-Money Gospel
https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1915874994514452763

25:23 Restoring ETH’s Product-Money Feedback Loop
https://www.bankless.com/read/restoring-eths-product-money-feedback-loop

46:58 Towards a United Chains of Ethereum
https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1917298612540739931
https://x.com/Spire_Labs/status/1915430799618564394
https://l2beat.com/scaling/summary

1:05:43 ETH—Commodity Money Backed by an Economy
https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1918065179725570536

1:08:59 Rethinking Our Messaging
1:14:49 Can Ethereum Still Win?
1:19:22 Closing & Disclaimers

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Launchcoin & Believe | ETH's 50% Candle | Coinbase Listed on S&P 500 | Jon, Bread, & Andy8052 May 14, 2025

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In this episode of the Bankless Roundtable, host David Hoffman is joined by crypto enthusiasts Zero X Bread Guy, John Charbonneau, and Andy8052 to discuss the recent surge in Ethereum's price, which skyrocketed nearly 50% this week. The panel analyzes the impact of the Believe app and Launchcoin on internet capital markets, Coinbase's entry into the S&P 500, and Robinhood's new Layer 2 solution. They explore the implications of these developments for investor confidence and market liquidity, alongside the rising interest in meme-based tokens. The conversation wraps up with thoughts on Ethereum vs. Solana and the importance of community engagement in the evolving crypto landscape.

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Bread: https://x.com/0xBreadguy
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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 ETH vs SOL vs BTC

5:40 Internet Capital Markets
https://x.com/gabrielhaines/status/1922293923420000346
https://dexscreener.com/solana/yrrustgpugdp8bbfosqdefssen6sa75zs1qjvgnhtmy
https://www.believescreener.com/
https://x.com/believeapp

22:19 Memecoin Launchpads
https://x.com/believeapp/status/1922075588115775489
https://x.com/zhusu/status/1922178773375418733

30:32 Ethereum Up 50%
https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/ethereum

46:25 Coinbase Listed
https://x.com/coinbase/status/1922046840528113880

53:47 Robinhood Acquires Wonderfi
https://x.com/hanni_abu/status/1922341347844841611

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Launchcoin & Believe | ETH's 50% Candle | Coinbase Listed on S&P 500 | Jon, Bread, & Andy8052 May 14, 2025

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Jon Charbonneau: https://x.com/jon_charb
Bread: https://x.com/0xBreadguy
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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 ETH vs SOL vs BTC

22:19 Memecoin Launchpads
https://x.com/believeapp/status/1922075588115775489
https://x.com/zhusu/status/1922178773375418733

30:32 Ethereum Up 50%
https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/ethereum

46:25 Coinbase Listed
https://x.com/coinbase/status/1922046840528113880

53:47 Robinhood Acquires Wonderfi
https://x.com/hanni_abu/status/1922341347844841611

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Launchcoin & Believe | ETH's 50% Candle | Coinbase Listed on S&P 500 | Jon, Bread, & Andy8052 May 14, 2025

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Bread: https://x.com/0xBreadguy
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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 ETH vs SOL vs BTC

22:19 Memecoin Launchpads
https://x.com/believeapp/status/1922075588115775489
https://x.com/zhusu/status/1922178773375418733

30:32 Ethereum Up 50%
https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/ethereum

46:25 Coinbase Listed
https://x.com/coinbase/status/1922046840528113880

53:47 Robinhood Acquires Wonderfi
https://x.com/hanni_abu/status/1922341347844841611

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LIMITLESS: This Is Far Bigger Than The Internet Boom | Shaun Maguire May 12, 2025

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Shaun Maguire, partner at Sequoia and former physicist turned investor, joins the Limitless Podcast to explore why we’re on the verge of a technological renaissance.

From AI and silicon photonics to humanoid robots and space infrastructure, Shaun makes the case that the next 20 years will make the internet boom look tame. We dive deep into why America needs 10 SpaceX-level companies, the return of hardware innovation, the energy constraints of the future, and how frontier technologies like Neuralink and Mars colonization might reshape civilization.

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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Intro
6:36 Who’s Shaun Maguire?
9:24 Investing in the AI Age
13:06 Hardware Manufacturing
21:58 Hardware Precedes Software Revolutions
42:20 Energy
49:53 Space Solar Reflectors
55:45 Space Economy
1:04:15 Elon Musk
1:14:24 Robotics
1:17:39 Neuralink
1:25:22 Doom Scenarios
1:32:02 Closing Thoughts

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RESOURCES

Shaun Maguire
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Sequoia Capital
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Josh Kale
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David Hoffman
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ROLLUP: ETH’s Pectra Upgrade | $2T Stablecoin Push | Apple’s Crypto Breakthrough | Coinbase Buys Deribit! May 09, 2025

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This week, Ryan and David unpack Ethereum’s game-changing "Pectra" upgrade, doubling Layer 2 blob space and sparking fresh debates on L1 scaling. Meanwhile, Washington sets its sights on a $2 trillion stablecoin market, Apple’s App Store monopoly cracks open to crypto, and Coinbase makes a historic acquisition of Deribit. Plus, Bitcoin breaks $100K and ETH $2k, are we officially back in bull territory? Find out on this week’s Weekly Rollup.
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TIMESTAMPS & RESOURCES

0:00 Intro

0:32 Markets
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/07/fed-meeting-live-updates-traders-await-insight-from-powell-on-next-rate-cut-tariff-impact.html
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?id=EFFR%2CDFEDTARU%2CDFEDTARL%2C&utm_source=chatgpt.com
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FEDFUNDS?utm_source=chatgpt.com
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114471750357100883
https://x.com/ForexLive/status/1919864600339558405

13:44 Big win for Crypto against Apple App Store Monopoly!
https://x.com/hlopez_/status/1918113804938056100
https://x.com/0xCygaar/status/1918335966538068300
https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1920486709831033039

21:36 Ethereum upgrade live on mainnet!
https://x.com/TimBeiko/status/1920145795430727686
https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/1919746313760969136
https://www.bankless.com/read/eip-7702-ethereum-onchain-culture
https://x.com/adietrichs/status/1920083962472300928
https://x.com/drakefjustin/status/1920343548047569165
https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/1920488999296078131
https://x.com/tkstanczak/status/1920157389568737478
https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/1920498941583348014

40:04 Coinbase Acquires Options Platform Deribit
https://www.wsj.com/finance/currencies/coinbase-strikes-2-9-billion-deal-for-major-crypto-options-platform-a87ca4b3?utm_source=chatgpt.com

41:55 Treasury Secretary is ALL in on Stablecoins
https://x.com/SecScottBessent/status/1920140049254854778
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/02/crypto-tether-eyes-us-expansion-with-new-stablecoin-as-ceo-courts-washington.html
https://x.com/intangiblecoins/status/1918802270310777128
https://x.com/SenatorHagerty/status/1918827160954909111
https://x.com/BrendanPedersen/status/1920193925081338114

47:26 Dems introduced legislation that would ban sitting presidents from issuing tokens
https://www.merkley.senate.gov/merkley-and-schumer-lead-the-charge-to-end-crypto-corruption-by-trump-other-elected-officials/
https://x.com/Cointelegraph/status/1919405803112472797
https://x.com/StevenTDennis/status/1920088287747711380
https://x.com/DegenerateNews/status/1919109508120371209
https://x.com/WatcherGuru/status/1919120401604477095
https://cointelegraph.com/news/eu-crypto-ban-anonymous-privacy-tokens-2027

54:04 Coinbase announced a new open source payments protocol - x402.
https://x.com/CoinbaseDev/status/1919784224170889696
https://chatgpt.com/share/681ba731-5244-8008-b801-37e128e240b8
https://stripe.com/en-cz/newsroom/news/sessions-2025

57:44 Bitcoin community is splitting over limit removal plan
https://x.com/ColeTU/thread/1919769012998647880
https://x.com/MartyBent/status/1919226199529677042

1:01:55 Unichain becomes the first L2 building blocks with TEE!
https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/1918450159274319876

1:04:26 Charles Schwab wants to launch spot Bitcoin trading by April 2026
https://cointelegraph.com/news/charles-schwab-eyes-spot-bitcoin-trading-2026

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1:06:55 Closing & Disclaimers

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AI Rollup: AI Robots and The $10T Arms Race May 08, 2025

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Welcome to the AI Rollup, from the Limitless Podcast. David, Ejaaz, and Josh break down the week’s most important AI headlines, from OpenAI’s $3B Windsurf acquisition and Google’s full-stack AI play, to Visa and Mastercard preparing for agentic commerce. We explore the state of robotics, major interpretability challenges, and why the race to AGI may outpace our ability to understand it. Plus: AI ASMR, glow-up GPT, and why autonomous agents still kinda suck. Stay curious, this one’s stacked.

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00:00:00 Intro To Limitless!

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00:04:23 OpenAI Makes Huge Acquisition

https://www.outlookbusiness.com/artificial-intelligence/openai-to-acquire-ai-coding-platform-windsurf-for-3bn?utm_source=www.theaivalley.com&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=openai-reverses-for-profit-plan-ai-breakthroughs-in-robotics&_bhlid=7f1b29a5128efe71af21ff4cb81c530bdcac095e