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    The GENIUS Act Passes the Senate: Lead Sen. Bill Hagerty Discusses The US Stablecoin Bill Jun 18, 2025
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    Today, we discuss the recently passed Genius Bill with Senator Bill Hagerty, a key architect behind the legislation aimed at stabilizing the U.S. stablecoin market. Following a significant bipartisan Senate vote of 68-30, Sen. Hagerty shares insights on the evolving congressional perception of cryptocurrency, moving from skepticism to support. The bill seeks to foster a regulatory environment that encourages innovation while protecting users and maintaining America’s leadership in financial technology. The episode also highlights the potential economic benefits of a strong stablecoin framework and addresses concerns regarding Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDCs).

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    0:00 Introduction to the Genius Bill
    5:43 Welcoming Senator Bill Haggerty
    8:55 Next Steps for the Bill
    11:16 Why America Needs Stablecoin Law
    14:07 Fostering a Domestic Stablecoin Economy
    15:23 Addressing Detractors of the Bill
    18:06 Understanding Stablecoins vs CBDCs
    20:27 Who Can Issue Stablecoins?
    21:01 Path for Offshore Issuers
    23:54 Surveillance Concerns with Stablecoins
    26:10 Addressing the Trump Loophole
    27:34 The Bipartisan Nature of Crypto
    28:52 Senator Haggerty's Evolution on Crypto
    32:17 Establishing a Clear Regulatory Framework
    34:51 Future Steps for the Crypto Industry

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    RESOURCES

    Sen. Bill Hagerty: https://x.com/SenatorHagerty

    The GENIUS Act: https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/394/text

    Sec. Bessent’s Tweet: https://x.com/SecScottBessent/status/1935027160374210573

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    LIMITLESS: U.S. vs China's Race to Superintelligence | Jeremie & Edouard Harris Jun 18, 2025
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    In this episode, Jeremie and Edouard Harris, co-founders of Gladstone AI and national security advisors, join us to break down the real score in the U.S.–China AI race.

    We unpack what it actually means to “win” in AI: from cutting-edge model development and compute infrastructure to data center vulnerabilities, state-sponsored espionage, and the rise of robotic warfare. The Harris brothers explain why energy is the hidden battleground, how supply chains have become strategic liabilities, and why export controls alone won’t save us.

    This is not just a geopolitical showdown - it’s a race for superintelligence, and the clock is ticking.

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    0:00 Intro
    1:05 AI race: who's ahead?
    4:41 Framing AI as an arms race
    12:58 Gov't awareness of AI conflict
    20:38 AI reports feel like sci-fi
    24:44 China vs US: model race
    29:11 Shift to inference-time compute
    31:19 China’s software vs US hardware
    34:28 Open vs closed source politics
    38:56 China’s energy dominance
    43:32 America’s electric grid lag
    47:55 Supply chain vulnerabilities
    56:30 US chipmaking onshoring
    1:01:08 U.S. lead in chips
    1:04:00 DUV vs EUV bottlenecks
    1:08:26 Manufacturing gap in robotics
    1:11:53 Fear vs optimism in culture
    1:17:26 Coordination vs dynamism
    1:22:10 Bot-driven opinion warfare
    1:25:58 China pushing degrowth narratives?
    1:29:05 National security recommendations
    1:33:36 Co-op or conflict endgame?
    1:37:27 Closing

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    RESOURCES

    Jeremie Harris
    https://x.com/jeremiecharris

    Edouard Harris
    https://x.com/harris_edouard

    America’s Superintelligence Project
    https://superintelligence.gladstone.ai/

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    EigenLayer Introduces EigenCloud: The First Crypto-Native Cloud Service | Sreeram Kannan & JT Rose Jun 17, 2025
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    EigenLayer is back with a major announcement: EigenCloud.

    Sreeram Kannan and JT Rose unveil the first crypto-native cloud platform—a verifiable, programmable environment for building applications beyond the limits of traditional blockchains. We explore how EigenCloud packages modules like EigenDA, EigenVerify, and EigenCompute into a developer-friendly product that brings cloud-scale computation and crypto-grade trust guarantees together.

    From meme coins and AI agents to fully sovereign applications, we dig into what makes this launch a pivotal step for crypto infrastructure and why it might just reignite Ethereum’s original ambitions.

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    TIMESTAMPS

    0:00 Intro
    0:14 Introducing EigenCloud
    12:39 Solving Programmability Bottlenecks
    32:45 Apps EigenCloud Unlocks
    54:00 Promoting EigenCloud
    58:39 Total Addressable Market
    1:02:53 Developer Action Items
    1:06:19 Closing & Disclaimers

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    EigenCloud Announcement
    https://x.com/eigenlayer/status/1934961135515828501

    EigenCloud
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    Sreeram Kannan
    https://x.com/sreeramkannan

    JT Rose
    https://x.com/jt_rose

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    Ryan's Personal Reboot: 5 Types of Wealth with Sahil Bloom Jun 16, 2025
    Show notes

    In this deeply personal episode, Sahil Bloom joins Ryan Sean Adams to explore what it truly means to be wealthy and why so many high achievers get it wrong. After hitting burnout, Ryan stepped away from the grind to reassess his definition of success. What he found was a framework that reframed his entire life: the Five Types of Wealth.

    Together, they unpack why net worth alone is a poor scoreboard, how to avoid the trap of “never enough,” and what it means to build time, social, mental, physical, and financial wealth in harmony. This conversation is both a blueprint and a reboot, for anyone chasing more, and wondering why it still doesn’t feel like enough.

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    TIMESTAMPS

    0:00 Intro
    3:22 Measuring Wealth
    6:10 Beyond Net Worth
    13:29 Burnout Moment
    15:47 The Cost of Misaligned Effort
    25:47 The Five Types of Wealth
    27:47 Wealth Isn’t Swappable
    34:05 Freedom Starts With Defining “Enough”
    43:09 The “Enough” Excuse
    47:31 Why We Feel Time-Starved
    50:09 Digital Distractions and Overcommitment
    55:46 The Two-List Exercise
    57:38 The Morning ‘Boot Up’ Sequence
    1:03:30 Reinvesting in Your Closest People
    1:10:19 Too Busy to Connect
    1:12:23 The Mental Wealth
    1:14:11 The Life Razor
    1:18:26 The Physical Wealth
    1:24:40 Staying on Plan
    1:25:56 Grounded Success
    1:27:56 High Agency People
    1:29:03 Closing

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    RESOURCES

    Sahil
    https://x.com/SahilBloom

    Sahil’s Blog
    https://sahilbloom.substack.com/

    The 5 Types of Wealth
    https://www.the5typesofwealth.com/

    RSA Reboot
    https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1915115437505049055

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    ROLLUP: Circle’s $25B IPO Mania | Genius Act Passes? | Stripe Buys Privy | Polymarket Meets Twitter Jun 13, 2025
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    This week, Ryan and David unpack Circle’s stunning IPO debut, soaring to a $25B market cap and triggering Wall Street’s stablecoin frenzy. They break down the landmark Genius Act vote, bringing unprecedented regulatory clarity to stablecoins, and dive into Stripe’s latest crypto bet, acquiring wallet innovator Privy. Polymarket goes mainstream in an official integration with Twitter, while SEC Chair Paul Atkins embraces DeFi as fundamentally American. Plus, Gemini quietly files for IPO, Plasma’s billion-dollar Tether chain ignites, and Trump unexpectedly endorses crypto at Coinbase.
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    TIMESTAMPS & RESOURCES

    0:00 Intro

    3:59 Markets
    https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/1932526577897595233
    https://x.com/rovercrc/status/1930951805191778369
    https://x.com/hosseeb/status/1931457548760334723
    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1932695486684950962
    https://x.com/DavidShapiro98/status/1932696393937785058
    https://x.com/blknoiz06/status/1932072994731647435
    https://x.com/nypost/status/1933109968510550430

    15:02 US Senate is about to pass the GENIUS Act
    https://x.com/Cointelegraph/status/1932988965037978084
    https://x.com/intangiblecoins/status/1932868994165354703
    https://x.com/SenatorBennet/status/1932864987208249597
    https://x.com/SenWarren/status/1932858887482507604
    https://www.banking.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/20250611_warren_blumenthal_letter_to_meta_re_stablecoin.pdf
    https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1932877097623588922

    27:35 Did Circle kickoff Stablecoin Summer?
    https://www.tradingview.com/chart/?symbol=NYSE%3ACRCL
    https://x.com/MikeIppolito_/status/1932070226939810164
    https://x.com/TaikiMaeda2/status/1929538665560031641
    https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1932424510738673711
    https://x.com/PlasmaFDN/status/1932072359080415702
    https://www.barrons.com/articles/circle-ipo-crypto-retail-frenzy-06659b30?
    https://x.com/perkinscr97/status/1931032964349276313

    39:54 Stripe acquired Privy
    https://x.com/privy_io/status/1932816495719166167
    https://x.com/patrickc/status/1932817864450584939

    42:41 Polymarket became official prediction market of X!
    https://x.com/xai/status/1932481207180406923
    https://x.com/shayne_coplan/status/1931008087688614155

    44:50 Morpho Labs will be soon fully owned by MORPHO token holders
    https://x.com/PaulFrambot/status/1930971485142761909
    https://youtu.be/IJN_pgkKPjA?si=963i8GioANnNoVAR
    https://x.com/MorphoLabs/status/1933162070465208423

    49:17 Paul Atkins defended DEFI as the foundation American values
    https://x.com/SECGov/status/1932137708068970924
    https://x.com/SECGov/status/1932137708068970924

    53:15 World Liberty Financial will acquire TRUMP for its treasury
    https://x.com/EricTrump/status/1931089248926490772
    https://x.com/coinbase/status/1932836009034617183

    54:38 Closing & Disclaimers

    55:13 Moment of Zen
    https://x.com/BitcoinMagazine/status/1933172630099837134

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    Ethereum is Digital Oil: The Bull Case for ETH with Vivek & Danny Ryan from Etherealize Jun 12, 2025
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    Etherealize is back with a bold new thesis: ETH is digital oil. In this episode, Vivek and Danny Ryan unpack their freshly released report, The Bull Case for ETH, which positions ether as the next great store of value—and a future global reserve asset for the digital economy.

    We explore ETH’s misunderstood monetary design, its strategic role for institutions, and why Wall Street is waking up to Ethereum not just as a network, but as an investable asset. This is the case for ETH as the asymmetric opportunity of this generation.

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    0:00 Intro
    0:52 The Bull Case for ETH
    3:18 Why ETH?
    6:35 Pitching to Wall Street
    10:59 ETH is Digital Oil
    21:29 ETH’s Monetary Policy
    37:37 Why Hold ETH?
    43:42 ETH/BTC Ratio
    47:20 ETH is a Store of Value
    53:55 Ethereum’s Scaling Path
    1:03:08 Ethereum’s Renaissance
    1:07:06 Ethereum Competitors
    1:10:14 The Report
    1:12:29 Vivek in Congress
    1:13:33 Closing & Disclaimers

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    RESOURCES

    The Bull Case for ETH Report
    http://ethdigitaloil.com/

    VIvek Raman
    https://x.com/VivekVentures

    Danny Ryan
    https://x.com/dannyryan

    Etherealize
    https://x.com/Etherealize_io

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    ROUNDTABLE: Crypto's IPO Era | HYPE vs. SOL vs. PUMP | Jon & Bread Jun 11, 2025
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    Crypto markets are buzzing and institutional appetite is peaking. With Circle’s IPO wildly oversubscribed and a new wave of companies racing to go public, we unpack what this means for the industry.

    Jon and Bread join us to break down the hype around crypto IPOs, why TradFi wants stablecoin exposure, and what it signals for projects like Solana, Ethereum, and Hyperliquid. We also debate value accrual, ETH vs BTC narratives, and whether apps or platforms will dominate the next phase of crypto. This is the IPO Era of crypto—let's dissect the winners and the delusions.

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    0:00 Intro

    0:32 Vibe Check
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    https://x.com/blknoiz06/status/1932072994731647435

    10:13 Crypto’s IPO Era
    https://www.tradingview.com/chart/?symbol=NYSE%3ACRCL
    https://x.com/HadickM/status/1931323504525279522

    18:11 Ethereum Valuation Debate
    https://x.com/DeeZe/status/1932475461348835800

    29:29 Hype vs SOL vs PUMP
    https://www.tradingview.com/chart/?symbol=KUCOIN%3AHYPEUSDT

    40:44 Hyperliquid vs Centralized Exchanges
    https://dune.com/uwusanauwu/perps

    50:35 PumpFun’s Token Sale

    58:16 Closing & Disclaimers

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    How Should ETH Be Valued? | Ryan Berckmans vs. Jon Charbonneau Jun 10, 2025
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    Jon Charbonneau and Ryan Berckmans join Bankless to debate Ethereum’s future: is ETH undervalued, or has the market already spoken?

    We unpack whether Ethereum can rival Bitcoin as a store of value, if L2s will drive real value back to ETH, and whether Solana’s momentum signals deeper trouble for Ethereum. Jon argues ETH has lost its lead and may never reclaim it. Ryan contends Ethereum’s neutrality and institutional traction make it the inevitable hub for the onchain economy.

    This is the definitive conversation on where ETH stands—and where it’s heading.
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    0:00 Intro
    0:32 Is ETH special?
    32:55 How ETH should be valued
    51:42 ETH over or undervalued?
    1:09:59 Being wrong on ETH
    1:13:00 Closing & Disclaimers

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    Ryan Berckmans
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    Jon Charbonneau
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    Is Joe Lubin the Michael Saylor of Ethereum? | The $SBET Opportunity Jun 09, 2025
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    Joe Lubin returns to Bankless to break down his latest bold move—launching SBET, a publicly traded vehicle designed to accumulate and deploy Ether as a strategic treasury asset.

    We unpack whether Lubin is stepping into the Michael Saylor role for Ethereum, how SBET might outperform Bitcoin-backed models, and why ETH is poised for a monetary renaissance. From regulatory wins to Ethereum’s evolving narrative on Wall Street, this episode explores how ETH can become a multi-trillion-dollar asset and a dominant store of value in the next economic supercycle.

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    0:00 Intro
    0:38 Getting Sued by The SEC
    7:55 $SBET
    16:32 The Michael Saylor of ETH
    23:25 $SBET (ETH) vs $MSTR (BTC)
    27:16 Valuing ETH
    28:30 Wall Street Narratives
    30:52 ETH’s Performance
    36:53 ETH as Collateral
    40:07 Onboarding Others
    46:52 ETH as SoV
    49:18 What ETH Needs
    50:52 Joining Forces
    53:08 ETH’s Sentiment Shift
    56:53 Genius Act
    58:44 Closing & Disclaimers

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    RESOURCES

    Joe Lubin
    https://x.com/ethereumJoseph

    SharpLink Gaming ($SBET)
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    Consensys
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    ROLLUP: Circle IPO Hits $20B | Stablecoin Summer Is On | Trump Wallet Chaos | EF Deploys Special For Jun 06, 2025
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    This week, Ryan and David unpack Circle’s explosive $20B IPO—crypto’s second biggest—and what it signals about Wall Street’s newfound love for stablecoins. They break down the confusing Trump wallet drama, where even Trump’s own sons deny involvement, and explore why Pump.fun’s rumored $4B token raise has the industry split. Ethereum enters “wartime mode” as the Foundation lays off staff and spins up a lean new R&D force called Protocol. Plus, Ray Dalio says “a bit of Bitcoin,” Trump’s Big Beautiful Bill adds $2.4T to the deficit, and SBF is headed to Netflix.
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    TIMESTAMPS & RESOURCES

    0:00 Intro

    0:41 Circle IPO
    https://x.com/circle/status/1930624298760143333
    https://www.theblock.co/post/356602/circle-seeks-7-2-billion-valuation-in-upsized-ipo
    https://x.com/ruiixyz/status/1930386144216396176
    https://x.com/EconomyApp/status/1930657679418241238
    https://x.com/jerallaire/status/1930595978215637360
    https://x.com/EffortCapital/status/1930621939279679542

    9:34 Markets

    12:23 Trump BBB
    https://x.com/alifarhat79/status/1930265604105150647
    https://x.com/alifarhat79/status/1930256218108383338
    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1930452348234805665
    https://x.com/WatcherGuru/status/1930659468536144062
    https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/1/text
    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1929954109689606359
    https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1929993372586152364

    23:53 Pump.fun is getting ready for a token
    https://blockworks.co/news/pumpdotfun-token-sale
    https://x.com/nextfckingthing/status/1929871539018576257
    https://dune.com/tiagocryptonary/pump-fun-analytics
    https://x.com/lmrankhan/status/1928163796691845133
    https://x.com/VannaCharmer/status/1930318687333986639

    32:00 Ethereum Foundation announced another big change!
    https://x.com/TimBeiko/status/1929620145984753843
    https://x.com/econoar/status/1930361688047661495
    https://blog.ethereum.org/2025/06/04/ef-treasury-policy
    https://x.com/centauridoteth/status/1929896351447372191
    https://x.com/ViktorBunin/status/1929945974316662804

    44:43 Strategy found a new way how to raise more money for Bitcoin
    https://x.com/saylor/status/1929635975367475403
    https://x.com/DylanLeClair_/status/1929661889963086170

    49:01 Trump team launched a crypto wallet - or did they?
    https://x.com/BitcoinMagazine/status/1929943367892283828
    https://x.com/EricTrump/status/1929966635445576103
    https://x.com/0xLeoInRio/status/1929955682037731340
    https://x.com/molly0xFFF/status/1930351820288741708
    https://x.com/Ronxyz00/status/1929884476328276036
    https://x.com/EricBalchunas/status/1930015280094429381

    57:50 SBF is heading to Netflix!
    https://x.com/netflix/status/1928153876475097117

    1:00:26 Bankless is looking for talent!
    https://x.com/i/jobs/1929890683927638133
    https://x.com/i/jobs/1929889475783520481

    1:01:38 Closing & Disclaimer

    1:02:01 Moment of Zen
    https://x.com/l3olanza/status/1930320045139173881

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