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    Backpacker Radio

    From the Appalachian Trail to the Pacific Crest and everything in between. Backpacker Radio is a show all about the wonderful world that is thru-hiking and long distance backpacking.

    Co-hosts, Zach “Badger” Davis and Juliana “Chaunce” Chauncey muse on the backpacking life and the latest from the trail every other week. Topics include but are not limited to news, trail culture, interviews, gear, advice, and all you can eat buffets.

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    #159 | Shayla "Kiddo" Paradeis on Hiking Without a Smartphone and Healing from Trauma Jul 25, 2022
    Show notes

    In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by Shayla "Kiddo" Paradeis. Shayla is a very accomplished backpacker, with the triple crown just scratching the surface of her hiking resume, but it's her approach to backpacking that makes this conversation stand out. We chat about what it's like to backpack in today's age without a smartphone, including the differences of keeping in touch with hikers, navigating on trail, tracking the forecast, and more. Shayla also shares her experience of healing on trail, and how her experiences as a sexual assault survivor have played a major role in her desire to be in the backcountry. Another warning to listeners, if the subject of sexual assault is especially triggering to you, we encourage you to skip ahead about half way into today's interview.

    We wrap the show with the triple crown of reasons to go to a baseball game, we check in with MG as she's just hiked through the 100-Mile Wilderness, we discuss things that feel like a scam but aren't (but also sort of are), and give a shoutout to a couple who got engaged on the PCT this year!

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    Interview with Shayla "Kiddo" Paradeis

    • Shayla's Website
    • Shayla's Youtube Channel

    Time stamps & Questions

    00:02:52 - QOTD: What isn't a scam but feels like one?

    00:05:50 - Reminders: Leftover trail days shirts *were* in the Trek store!

    00:06:38 - Introducing Shayla

    00:07:23 - How does one decide to hike without a smartphone?

    00:10:23 - What's the rationale?

    00:13:12 - Are you off of social media entirely?

    00:15:10 - Do you ever listen to music?

    00:17:24 - How have you noticed hikers change as you've hiked so many trails?

    00:21:59 - Have you noticed a change in how you get through your day?

    00:24:37 - How are you checking the weather forecast?

    00:25:54 - Do you get frustrated being around other hikers who are always on their phones?

    00:28:10 - Has any part of you lost faith in humanity?

    00:29:57 - Discussion about navigation and getting lost without a phone.

    00:33:52 - Tell us about your hiking group patterns for your long trails.

    00:36:25 - What was your hitchhiking method?

    00:37:07 - Did you ever get bothered by your hiking partners using their phones?

    00:38:36 - If you could do it over again, would you hike alone?

    00:40:17 - Do you have any tips for people wanting to set boundaries?

    00:46:44 - Tell us about the Haute Route.

    00:49:06 - Can you compare the Haute Route and the Tour du Mont Blanc?

    00:51:02 - Are you also a runner?

    00:52:30 - Why don't you like racing as much anymore?

    00:53:44 - Did you have a light pack in 2011?

    00:54:41 - Tell us about eating better.

    00:56:51 - How many calories did you consume on trail?

    00:57:49 - Are you a competitive person?

    01:01:11 - Tell us more about why you're hiking.

    01:04:57 - What happened that led you to run away to Glacier?

    01:06:30 - Were your parents disappointed when you left New York?

    01:08:02 - Did the trauma you experience relate to getting into backpacking?

    01:09:42 - Have you found thru-hiking to be healing?

    01:10:41 - (Begin trigger warning) How did your relationship on trail pan out?

    01:12:33 - Did any part of you want to quit hiking after that?

    01:15:10 - How did you feel safety-wise after that?

    01:16:36 - Tell us more about your book.

    01:18:47 - Can you give us a synopsis of what the book is about?

    01:21:22 - (End trigger warning) Tell us about the volunteering you do in Glacier National Park.

    01:25:50 - Tell us about grizzlies and wolves!

    01:27:10 - Discussion about how wolves impact the ecosystem.

    01:29:08 - Is there anything else you want to share?

    01:29:48 - Thank you!

    SEGMENTS

    MG Check-In

    Trek Propaganda

    • Meet the Thru-Hiking Couple Who Got Engaged on the PCT by Penina Satlow
    • After 9,000 Miles of Thru-Hiking, These Are the 10 Items I Never Leave Home Without by Jenn Wall

    Triple Crown of reasons to go to a baseball game

    Pupdate Mara-Edition

    Mail Bag

    5 Star Review

    [divider]

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    Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)! Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play.

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    A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Jason Lawrence, Christopher Marshburn, Sawyer Products, Brad and Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Patrick Cianciolo, Paul Packman Sealy, Matt Soukup, Jason Snailer, Greg Mac, Tracy "Trigger" Fawns, and Mike Poisel.

    A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Liz Seger, Cynthia Voth, Emily Brown, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Peter Ellenberg, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven.


    #158 | Kathryn Miles on Attempting to Solve the Shenandoah Murders Jul 18, 2022
    Show notes

    In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by RTIC, we are joined by Kathryn Miles. Kathryn is an award-winning journalist, science writer, and the author of five books, most recently "Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders", which is the focus of today's chat. We go deep on everything to do with this case, including the gruesome details of the murders, why this was not a random act of violence, why this case has yet to be solved, who Kathryn believes to be the perpetrator, and much more. A warning to listeners, this one goes into some pretty horrific details on the subjects of sexual assault and murder. If either of these subjects are especially triggering to you, we encourage you to skip ahead to the segments for this one.

    We then pivot from rape and murder to the triple crown of ice cream toppings. Typical backpacker radio stuff.

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    [divider]

    Interview with Kathryn Miles

    • Kathryn Miles Website
    • Kathryn's Instagram
    • Buy Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders or at your local bookstore

    Time stamps & Questions

    00:05:23 - QOTD: How was your day today?

    00:11:37 - Introducing Kathryn Miles

    00:12:12 - What's your hiking background?

    00:12:53 - Anything else you want to add about the hiker designations?

    00:13:52 - Can you tell us about your journalism career?

    00:15:23 - Did you always know 'Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders' was going to become a book?

    00:17:01 - Can you give an overview of the case?

    00:19:11 - What were the challenges with writing this?

    00:21:36 - Do you eventually develop thicker skin towards these stories?

    00:22:45 - Going into this project, were you afraid of the side effects others experienced after digging into similar stories?

    00:24:08 - Did you have a background or past interest in true crime?

    00:25:44 - When you're researching something like this, where do you start?

    00:27:40 - How do you focus on the killer when you don't know the killer?

    00:29:44 - Amateur sleuthing

    00:30:32 - Do you worry about bringing a new potential killer into the story?

    00:32:45 - Did you lose your love for the outdoors and hiking after writing the book?

    00:35:12 - Did you end up viewing the photos?

    00:36:40 - Could you share some more details around this being a premeditated murder?

    00:39:58 - What will readers learn through the book that they wouldn't through the police reports?

    00:42:01 - What were some of the most interesting things you found in the reports?

    00:47:37 - Can you speak to the general safety of the trails?

    00:50:37 - Do you think there's anything nefarious with that?

    00:53:15 - Are park rangers part of a union?

    00:54:01 - Tell us more about the culture clash in the involved parties

    00:55:59 - Were there any thru-hiking suspects?

    00:56:48 - Did you ever find out why he had a bloody knife?

    00:58:18 - Can you tell us more about the second character?

    01:00:24 - What were the similarities between the two murders?

    01:01:01 - Was there a purpose to wrapping a body in a sleeping bag?

    01:02:53 - How do they determine who's vibrator it was?

    01:03:52 - What did he do to modify it?

    01:05:54 - Is there any scenario in which the murderer wants to be caught?

    01:08:59 - What's your personal opinion on who the killer is?

    01:10:10 - What is Darrell Rice doing these days?

    01:11:11 - Did you try to reach out to Darrell Rice?

    01:12:12 - Is he still missing?

    01:13:30 - What convinced them it was Darrell Rice?

    01:16:28 - What do you think it will take for the FBI to pick up this case again?

    01:16:53 - Where should phone calls and letters be sent?

    01:17:39 - What are the odds that the person who did it, isn't either of the two focused on in the book?

    01:18:45 - How do you see the Shenandoah murders fitting into a culture of misogyny?

    01:20:34 - Could you tell us more about your research into women being excluded from the outdoors?

    01:22:18 - How do you instill confidence into those still out hiking near the Shenandoah?

    01:24:26 - How was it hiking the AT during that time?

    01:25:14 - How did it change the vibe of the trail?

    01:26:49 - Do you think it would have impacted the outcome if the women were in a more public camping area?

    01:28:21 - Are there other documented crimes specifically against non-binary hikers on trail?

    01:30:22 - Is there any research on non-binary hiker crimes?

    01:32:01 - Where should people get your book?

    01:32:30 - Any projects in the pipeline we should know about?

    01:33:37 - Wrap Up

    SEGMENTS

    Surprise Mail

    Audience Mail Bag

    Trek Propaganda

    • [Book Review] Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders by Penina Satlow

    Triple Crown

    Q&A Segment

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    A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Jason Lawrence, Christopher Marshburn, Sawyer Products, Brad and Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Patrick Cianciolo, Paul Packman Sealy, Matt Soukup, Jason Snailer, Greg Mac, Tracy "Trigger" Fawns, and Mike Poisel.

    A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Liz Seger, Cynthia Voth, Emily Brown, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Peter Ellenberg, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven.


    #157 | Tahoe Rim Trail: Badger Recaps Trail Highlights, Logistics, Chafes, and Gear Advice Jul 11, 2022
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    In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek we are joined by no one! Today's episode is all about the Tahoe Rim Trail and Badger's recent experience thru-hiking this trail. This one covers everything you'd want to know about hiking the TRT, including the trail's basics, my experience and advice for resupply, gear, pacing, permits, bear storage, the best time to hike this trail, bugs, dealing with snow, navigation, funny stories, cell service, worst chafes, best poops, and much more.

    We wrap the show with a very weird and impromptu segment- healing your holes with Badger and Chaunce, we touch on the sad news of a hiker who recently passed in the White Mountain National Forest, we get a ridiculous poop story from our pal Paul Packman Sealy, and Backpacker Radio sponsorship winner MG gives us her first update from the AT!

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    [divider]

    Interview with Zach "Badger" Davis

    • Badger's Tahoe Rim Trail Gear List

    Time stamps & Questions

    00:04:42 - QOTD: Would you rather have an elephant's nose or a giraffe's neck?

    00:08:20 - Introducing Zach!

    00:09:05 - What is the TRT?

    00:10:52 - Which direction did you hike?

    00:11:57 - Tell us about the elevation and miles per day.

    00:14:40 - Did you need a bear canister?

    00:18:25 - Tell us about the permits required.

    00:21:21 - How many people did you see each day?

    00:22:30 - Did anyone ask if you hiked the AT?

    00:24:25 - How was the water situation?

    00:26:13 - Was it exposed or under treeline?

    00:27:15 - How was the snow situation?

    00:33:40 - What is the best time of year to hike the TRT?

    00:35:49 - Tell us about day 1.

    00:39:28 - Did you make any friends?

    00:39:47 - Discussion about Zach's Ursack.

    00:43:30 - Tell us about day 2 (chafing).

    00:47:40 - Discussion about Zach wearing a kilt on the AT (disclaimer: disturbing visuals).

    00:51:29 - Tell us about day 3 (weather, gear).

    00:58:25 - Tell us about day 4 (burn area, ubering, town day).

    01:05:47 - Tell us about day 5 (Desolation Wilderness, hiking with friends vs. alone).

    01:12:30 - Tell us about day 6 (Tahoe City).

    01:15:57 - Any other notable food things?

    01:19:27 - Did you have vitamins and supplements?

    01:23:04 - Discussion about weight and muscle.

    01:26:55 - Tell us about day 7 (snow, cold).

    01:30:22 - How did you get to the trail?

    01:32:55 - Where does it rank among other shorter thru-hikes you've done?

    01:34:04 - Would you recommend the TRT to first-time long distance hikers?

    01:35:24 - How was this experience different now that you're a father?

    01:36:54 - Is it worth traveling across the country as someone from the East Coast?

    01:37:47 - Anything you would have done differently?

    01:38:41 - How long was your longest food carry?

    01:39:35 - Did you have any knee pain and if so, how did you alleviate it?

    01:39:52 - Did you have any trouble navigating?

    01:41:00 - Any poop stories?

    01:44:28 - What's the next hike for a now-dad?

    SEGMENTS

    MG Check-In

    Trek Propaganda

    • Badger's Tahoe Rim Trail Gear List
    • Hiker Rescued from Presidential Traverse on Saturday Has Died by Kelly Floro

    Paul's Poop Story

    5 Star Review

    Healing Your Hole with Zach and Chaunce

    [divider]

    Check out our sound guy @Paulybooyshallcross.

    Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)! Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play.

    Support us on Patreon to get bonus content.

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    Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram.

    Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube.

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    A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Jason Lawrence, Christopher Marshburn, Sawyer Products, Brad and Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Patrick Cianciolo, Paul Packman Sealy, Matt Soukup, Jason Snailer, and Greg Mac.

    A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Liz Seger, Cynthia Voth, Emily Brown, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Peter Ellenberg, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven.


    #156 | The Virtual Sherpa on Peak Bagging 13ers and 14ers, Responsibly Promoting Trails, and Video Guiding Jul 04, 2022
    Show notes

    In today's episode of Backpacker Radio, presented by The Trek, brought to you by RTIC, we are joined by Mickey aka The Virtual Sherpa. The Virtual Sherpa runs a successful website and youtube channel dedicated to sharing tips, trail overviews, and more from some of his favorite trails around Colorado and the greater Southwest. We chat about what some of the most underrated 13,000 ft peaks are in Colorado, and why they might be even better than many of the state's 14ers, some of his favorite hikes without hoards of people, his philosophy on gatekeeping and responsibly promoting trails, and much more.

    We wrap the show with a backpacking trip in Zion National Park that deserves to be on your bucket list, a Q&A touching on a range of subjects including but not limited to good hiking spots for late fall, what life is like with a budding toddler, the scent of tent sex, and more.

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    [divider]

    Interview with Mickey aka "Virtual Sherpa"

    • The Virtual Sherpa Website
    • The Virtual Sherpa Youtube Channel
    • The Virtual Sherpa Instagram

    Time stamps & Questions

    00:04:40 - QOTD: At what age do people start consuming more Tums than Starbursts?

    00:09:19 - Introducing Mickey aka "Virtual Sherpa"

    00:09:37 - Mickey's Shit Story

    00:12:42 - Tell us your backpacking and peak bagging resume.

    00:14:30 - Discussion about trail and ultrarunning.

    00:15:33 - What's harder, training for an Ironman or training for a 100-mile run?

    00:19:29 - How fast are you?

    00:20:55 - Give us some background on how the website started.

    00:22:39 - Tell us about your preference with 14ers versus 13ers.

    00:24:32 - Tell us why you loved living in Chicago if you hate people.

    00:26:20 - Tell us about the 13er you did over Memorial Day?

    00:27:15 - Fuck Mary Kill: peak bagging, CT section hikes/backpacking, trail running

    00:28:40 - Tell us about the evolution of the website and Youtube channel.

    00:31:32 - How do you feel about the conflict between exposing trails via the internet and avoiding people while hiking?

    00:34:23 - Why does someone need to work hard to find a spot?

    00:35:50 - Discussion about keeping spots secret, public land, and gatekeeping.

    00:41:22 - How would you describe your audience and what are the most common questions you get?

    00:44:10 - What are your top 3 favorite 14ers and top 3 least favorite 14ers?

    00:46:58 - What are your favorite and least favorite 13ers?

    00:48:35 - What are your top 3 secret spots?

    00:51:20 - Discussion about fear and anxiety about the mountains.

    00:53:19 - Do you have a preference between the blog or the Youtube channel?

    00:55:52 - Have you asked your friend why there's a story before every recipe?

    00:57:21 - What is a border-crossing expedition?

    00:58:43 - Do you have any highlights from exploring Utah?

    01:02:23 - Discussion about National Parks, crowds, and timing hikes.

    01:07:34 - Discussion about Canyonlands.

    01:09:13 - What are your big 3 for a typical backpacking trip?

    01:12:22 - What's your typical camera setup?

    01:14:40 - Tell us about your dog, taking your dog on adventures, and tips for hiking with dogs.

    01:20:34 - Anything else do you want to share?

    01:22:14 - Thank you!

    SEGMENTS

    Trek Propaganda

    • The Zion Traverse: Hiking Off the Beaten Path in Utah's Most Popular National Park by Katie Kommer

    Q&A

    5 Star Review

    [divider]

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    A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Liz Seger, Cynthia Voth, Emily Brown, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Peter Ellenberg, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven.


    #155 | Pony Re-Returns to Chat About Sex on Trail, Section Hiking the CDT, and His PCT Thru-Hiking Memoir Jun 27, 2022
    Show notes

    In today's episode of Backpacker Radio, presented by The Trek, brought to you by RTIC, we are joined yet again by our pal, Clay Bonnyman Evans, known on trail as "Pony". Pony is fresh off the New Mexico stretch of the CDT and full of hot takes, including a renewed interest in all things dealing with sex on trail, why he thinks the "brutality" of the CDT is overstated- at least through New Mexico, we learn all about Clay's new book, "Adrift on the Pacific Crest Trail: A Thru-Hiking Story", and why Pony decided to do his first long distance backpacking trip sober. For those who've listened to previous interviews with Pony, you already know that conversations with him are a wild ride, this one is certainly no exception. If your children are listening to this episode, probably turn it off.

    We wrap the show with a detailing of the dumpster fire that is Chaunce's toilet and we do a triple crown of reasons why Zach's Tahoe Rim Trail hike will get canceled.

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    [divider]

    Interview with Clay Bonnyman Evans AKA "Pony"

    • Pony's Book
    • Pony's Instagram
    • Pony's Website

    Time stamps & Questions

    00:04:53 - QOTD: How's your toilet?

    00:14:41 - Introducing Clay Bonnyman Evans AKA "Pony"

    00:15:40 - Discussion about sex on trail.

    00:19:40 - Do you think the ratio of males and females on trail is a factor?

    00:22:14 - What's a wild story you got asking people about sex on trail?

    00:32:04 - Tell us about the New Mexico section of the CDT.

    00:38:45 - Discussion about water sources in New Mexico.

    00:39:21 - Discussion about trail marking in New Mexico.

    00:41:32 - Discussion about trail towns in New Mexico.

    00:43:02 - Odd encounter stories.

    00:46:45 - What wildlife did you see?

    00:49:48 - Discussion about the community of the CDT.

    00:52:20 - Discussion about the relative brutality of the CDT.

    00:53:35 - Tell us your thoughts on snow in Colorado.

    01:01:11 - Do you think people wanted to push through because of forest closures?

    01:03:25 - Discussion about CDT start dates and southbounding.

    01:11:15 - Discussion about the Creede cutoff.

    01:18:46 - Tell us about your book writing process.

    01:24:47 - Discussion about including relationship content in the book.

    01:27:16 - How did you write the book so quickly?

    01:32:02 - Hype for Zach's books.

    01:33:34 - What shoes do you have?

    01:36:38 - Discussion about post trail activity and food.

    01:37:30 - Discussion about hiking sober and Pony's twelve step program experience.

    01:43:18 - Discussion about Pony's social personality.

    01:45:56 - Did you miss drinking more or less than you expected?

    01:47:18 - Pony's story about Garmin troubles.

    01:53:05 - What Pony learned from the Garmin representative.

    02:00:06 - Have you used the Somewhere Labs communicator?

    02:02:40 - Discussion about dead cows.

    02:06:08 - Discussion about living cows and angry bull sounds.

    02:10:15 - Discussion about the popularity of the CDT.

    02:14:50 - Discussion about Chaunce's age.

    02:18:11 - Thanks!

    SEGMENTS

    Trek Propaganda

    • Join our team!

    Triple Crown of reasons Zach's Tahoe Rim Trail trip could get canceled

    5 Star Review

    [divider]

    Check out our sound guy @Paulybooyshallcross.

    Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)! Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play.

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    A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Jason Lawrence, Christopher Marshburn, Sawyer Products, Brad and Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Patrick Cianciolo, Paul Packman Sealy, Matt Soukup, Jason Snailer, and Greg Mac.

    A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Liz Seger, Cynthia Voth, Emily Brown, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Peter Ellenberg, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven.


    #155 | Pony Re-Returns to Chat About Sex on Trail, Section Hiking the CDT, and His PCT Thru-Hiking Memoir Jun 27, 2022
    Show notes

    In today's episode of Backpacker Radio, presented by The Trek, brought to you by RTIC, we are joined yet again by our pal, Clay Bonnyman Evans, known on trail as "Pony". Pony is fresh off the New Mexico stretch of the CDT and full of hot takes, including a renewed interest in all things dealing with sex on trail, why he thinks the "brutality" of the CDT is overstated- at least through New Mexico, we learn all about Clay's new book, "Adrift on the Pacific Crest Trail: A Thru-Hiking Story", and why Pony decided to do his first long distance backpacking trip sober. For those who've listened to previous interviews with Pony, you already know that conversations with him are a wild ride, this one is certainly no exception. If your children are listening to this episode, probably turn it off.

    We wrap the show with a detailing of the dumpster fire that is Chaunce's toilet and we do a triple crown of reasons why Zach's Tahoe Rim Trail hike will get canceled.

    RTIC Outdoors: Use code "backpacker" for 10% off orders over $50 at rticoutdoors.com.

    Gossamer Gear: Use code "littledonkeygirl" for 15% off at gossamergear.com.

    Enlightened Equipment: Use code "ultralight10" for 10% off Enlightened Equipment's Stock Revelation Quilt or Torrid Jacket at enlightenedequipment.com.

    Point6: Use code "point6trek" for 30% off at point6.com.

    [divider]

    Interview with Clay Bonnyman Evans AKA "Pony"

    • Pony's Book
    • Pony's Instagram
    • Pony's Website

    Time stamps & Questions

    00:04:53 - QOTD: How's your toilet?

    00:14:41 - Introducing Clay Bonnyman Evans AKA "Pony"

    00:15:40 - Discussion about sex on trail.

    00:19:40 - Do you think the ratio of males and females on trail is a factor?

    00:22:14 - What's a wild story you got asking people about sex on trail?

    00:32:04 - Tell us about the New Mexico section of the CDT.

    00:38:45 - Discussion about water sources in New Mexico.

    00:39:21 - Discussion about trail marking in New Mexico.

    00:41:32 - Discussion about trail towns in New Mexico.

    00:43:02 - Odd encounter stories.

    00:46:45 - What wildlife did you see?

    00:49:48 - Discussion about the community of the CDT.

    00:52:20 - Discussion about the relative brutality of the CDT.

    00:53:35 - Tell us your thoughts on snow in Colorado.

    01:01:11 - Do you think people wanted to push through because of forest closures?

    01:03:25 - Discussion about CDT start dates and southbounding.

    01:11:15 - Discussion about the Creede cutoff.

    01:18:46 - Tell us about your book writing process.

    01:24:47 - Discussion about including relationship content in the book.

    01:27:16 - How did you write the book so quickly?

    01:32:02 - Hype for Zach's books.

    01:33:34 - What shoes do you have?

    01:36:38 - Discussion about post trail activity and food.

    01:37:30 - Discussion about hiking sober and Pony's twelve step program experience.

    01:43:18 - Discussion about Pony's social personality.

    01:45:56 - Did you miss drinking more or less than you expected?

    01:47:18 - Pony's story about Garmin troubles.

    01:53:05 - What Pony learned from the Garmin representative.

    02:00:06 - Have you used the Somewhere Labs communicator?

    02:02:40 - Discussion about dead cows.

    02:06:08 - Discussion about living cows and angry bull sounds.

    02:10:15 - Discussion about the popularity of the CDT.

    02:14:50 - Discussion about Chaunce's age.

    02:18:11 - Thanks!

    SEGMENTS

    Trek Propaganda

    • Join our team!

    Triple Crown of reasons Zach's Tahoe Rim Trail trip could get canceled

    5 Star Review

    [divider]

    Check out our sound guy @Paulybooyshallcross.

    Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)! Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play.

    Support us on Patreon to get bonus content.

    Advertise on Backpacker Radio

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    A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Jason Lawrence, Christopher Marshburn, Sawyer Products, Brad and Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Patrick Cianciolo, Paul Packman Sealy, Matt Soukup, Jason Snailer, and Greg Mac.

    A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Liz Seger, Cynthia Voth, Emily Brown, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Peter Ellenberg, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven.


    #155 | Pony Re-Returns to Chat About Sex on Trail, Section Hiking the CDT, and His PCT Thru-Hiking Memoir Jun 27, 2022
    Show notes

    In today's episode of Backpacker Radio, presented by The Trek, brought to you by RTIC, we are joined yet again by our pal, Clay Bonnyman Evans, known on trail as "Pony". Pony is fresh off the New Mexico stretch of the CDT and full of hot takes, including a renewed interest in all things dealing with sex on trail, why he thinks the "brutality" of the CDT is overstated- at least through New Mexico, we learn all about Clay's new book, "Adrift on the Pacific Crest Trail: A Thru-Hiking Story", and why Pony decided to do his first long distance backpacking trip sober. For those who've listened to previous interviews with Pony, you already know that conversations with him are a wild ride, this one is certainly no exception. If your children are listening to this episode, probably turn it off.

    We wrap the show with a detailing of the dumpster fire that is Chaunce's toilet and we do a triple crown of reasons why Zach's Tahoe Rim Trail hike will get canceled.

    RTIC Outdoors: Use code "backpacker" for 10% off orders over $50 at rticoutdoors.com.

    Gossamer Gear: Use code "littledonkeygirl" for 15% off at gossamergear.com.

    Enlightened Equipment: Use code "ultralight10" for 10% off Enlightened Equipment's Stock Revelation Quilt or Torrid Jacket at enlightenedequipment.com.

    Point6: Use code "point6trek" for 30% off at point6.com.

    [divider]

    Interview with Clay Bonnyman Evans AKA "Pony"

    • Pony's Book
    • Pony's Instagram
    • Pony's Website

    Time stamps & Questions

    00:04:53 - QOTD: How's your toilet?

    00:14:41 - Introducing Clay Bonnyman Evans AKA "Pony"

    00:15:40 - Discussion about sex on trail.

    00:19:40 - Do you think the ratio of males and females on trail is a factor?

    00:22:14 - What's a wild story you got asking people about sex on trail?

    00:32:04 - Tell us about the New Mexico section of the CDT.

    00:38:45 - Discussion about water sources in New Mexico.

    00:39:21 - Discussion about trail marking in New Mexico.

    00:41:32 - Discussion about trail towns in New Mexico.

    00:43:02 - Odd encounter stories.

    00:46:45 - What wildlife did you see?

    00:49:48 - Discussion about the community of the CDT.

    00:52:20 - Discussion about the relative brutality of the CDT.

    00:53:35 - Tell us your thoughts on snow in Colorado.

    01:01:11 - Do you think people wanted to push through because of forest closures?

    01:03:25 - Discussion about CDT start dates and southbounding.

    01:11:15 - Discussion about the Creede cutoff.

    01:18:46 - Tell us about your book writing process.

    01:24:47 - Discussion about including relationship content in the book.

    01:27:16 - How did you write the book so quickly?

    01:32:02 - Hype for Zach's books.

    01:33:34 - What shoes do you have?

    01:36:38 - Discussion about post trail activity and food.

    01:37:30 - Discussion about hiking sober and Pony's twelve step program experience.

    01:43:18 - Discussion about Pony's social personality.

    01:45:56 - Did you miss drinking more or less than you expected?

    01:47:18 - Pony's story about Garmin troubles.

    01:53:05 - What Pony learned from the Garmin representative.

    02:00:06 - Have you used the Somewhere Labs communicator?

    02:02:40 - Discussion about dead cows.

    02:06:08 - Discussion about living cows and angry bull sounds.

    02:10:15 - Discussion about the popularity of the CDT.

    02:14:50 - Discussion about Chaunce's age.

    02:18:11 - Thanks!

    SEGMENTS

    Trek Propaganda

    • Join our team!

    Triple Crown of reasons Zach's Tahoe Rim Trail trip could get canceled

    5 Star Review

    [divider]

    Check out our sound guy @Paulybooyshallcross.

    Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)! Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play.

    Support us on Patreon to get bonus content.

    Advertise on Backpacker Radio

    Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram.

    Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube.

    Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok.

    A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Jason Lawrence, Christopher Marshburn, Sawyer Products, Brad and Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Patrick Cianciolo, Paul Packman Sealy, Matt Soukup, Jason Snailer, and Greg Mac.

    A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Liz Seger, Cynthia Voth, Emily Brown, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Peter Ellenberg, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven.


    #155 | Pony Re-Returns to Chat About Sex on Trail, Section Hiking the CDT, and His PCT Thru-Hiking Memoir Jun 27, 2022
    Show notes

    In today's episode of Backpacker Radio, presented by The Trek, brought to you by RTIC, we are joined yet again by our pal, Clay Bonnyman Evans, known on trail as "Pony". Pony is fresh off the New Mexico stretch of the CDT and full of hot takes, including a renewed interest in all things dealing with sex on trail, why he thinks the "brutality" of the CDT is overstated- at least through New Mexico, we learn all about Clay's new book, "Adrift on the Pacific Crest Trail: A Thru-Hiking Story", and why Pony decided to do his first long distance backpacking trip sober. For those who've listened to previous interviews with Pony, you already know that conversations with him are a wild ride, this one is certainly no exception. If your children are listening to this episode, probably turn it off.

    We wrap the show with a detailing of the dumpster fire that is Chaunce's toilet and we do a triple crown of reasons why Zach's Tahoe Rim Trail hike will get canceled.

    RTIC Outdoors: Use code "backpacker" for 10% off orders over $50 at rticoutdoors.com.

    Gossamer Gear: Use code "littledonkeygirl" for 15% off at gossamergear.com.

    Enlightened Equipment: Use code "ultralight10" for 10% off Enlightened Equipment's Stock Revelation Quilt or Torrid Jacket at enlightenedequipment.com.

    Point6: Use code "point6trek" for 30% off at point6.com.

    [divider]

    Interview with Clay Bonnyman Evans AKA "Pony"

    • Pony's Book
    • Pony's Instagram
    • Pony's Website

    Time stamps & Questions

    00:04:53 - QOTD: How's your toilet?

    00:14:41 - Introducing Clay Bonnyman Evans AKA "Pony"

    00:15:40 - Discussion about sex on trail.

    00:19:40 - Do you think the ratio of males and females on trail is a factor?

    00:22:14 - What's a wild story you got asking people about sex on trail?

    00:32:04 - Tell us about the New Mexico section of the CDT.

    00:38:45 - Discussion about water sources in New Mexico.

    00:39:21 - Discussion about trail marking in New Mexico.

    00:41:32 - Discussion about trail towns in New Mexico.

    00:43:02 - Odd encounter stories.

    00:46:45 - What wildlife did you see?

    00:49:48 - Discussion about the community of the CDT.

    00:52:20 - Discussion about the relative brutality of the CDT.

    00:53:35 - Tell us your thoughts on snow in Colorado.

    01:01:11 - Do you think people wanted to push through because of forest closures?

    01:03:25 - Discussion about CDT start dates and southbounding.

    01:11:15 - Discussion about the Creede cutoff.

    01:18:46 - Tell us about your book writing process.

    01:24:47 - Discussion about including relationship content in the book.

    01:27:16 - How did you write the book so quickly?

    01:32:02 - Hype for Zach's books.

    01:33:34 - What shoes do you have?

    01:36:38 - Discussion about post trail activity and food.

    01:37:30 - Discussion about hiking sober and Pony's twelve step program experience.

    01:43:18 - Discussion about Pony's social personality.

    01:45:56 - Did you miss drinking more or less than you expected?

    01:47:18 - Pony's story about Garmin troubles.

    01:53:05 - What Pony learned from the Garmin representative.

    02:00:06 - Have you used the Somewhere Labs communicator?

    02:02:40 - Discussion about dead cows.

    02:06:08 - Discussion about living cows and angry bull sounds.

    02:10:15 - Discussion about the popularity of the CDT.

    02:14:50 - Discussion about Chaunce's age.

    02:18:11 - Thanks!

    SEGMENTS

    Trek Propaganda

    • Join our team!

    Triple Crown of reasons Zach's Tahoe Rim Trail trip could get canceled

    5 Star Review

    [divider]

    Check out our sound guy @Paulybooyshallcross.

    Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)! Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play.

    Support us on Patreon to get bonus content.

    Advertise on Backpacker Radio

    Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram.

    Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube.

    Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok.

    A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Jason Lawrence, Christopher Marshburn, Sawyer Products, Brad and Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Patrick Cianciolo, Paul Packman Sealy, Matt Soukup, Jason Snailer, and Greg Mac.

    A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Liz Seger, Cynthia Voth, Emily Brown, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Peter Ellenberg, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven.


    #155 | Pony Re-Returns to Chat About Sex on Trail, Section Hiking the CDT, and His PCT Thru-Hiking Memoir Jun 27, 2022
    Show notes

    In today's episode of Backpacker Radio, presented by The Trek, brought to you by RTIC, we are joined yet again by our pal, Clay Bonnyman Evans, known on trail as "Pony". Pony is fresh off the New Mexico stretch of the CDT and full of hot takes, including a renewed interest in all things dealing with sex on trail, why he thinks the "brutality" of the CDT is overstated- at least through New Mexico, we learn all about Clay's new book, "Adrift on the Pacific Crest Trail: A Thru-Hiking Story", and why Pony decided to do his first long distance backpacking trip sober. For those who've listened to previous interviews with Pony, you already know that conversations with him are a wild ride, this one is certainly no exception. If your children are listening to this episode, probably turn it off.

    We wrap the show with a detailing of the dumpster fire that is Chaunce's toilet and we do a triple crown of reasons why Zach's Tahoe Rim Trail hike will get canceled.

    RTIC Outdoors: Use code "backpacker" for 10% off orders over $50 at rticoutdoors.com.

    Gossamer Gear: Use code "littledonkeygirl" for 15% off at gossamergear.com.

    Enlightened Equipment: Use code "ultralight10" for 10% off Enlightened Equipment's Stock Revelation Quilt or Torrid Jacket at enlightenedequipment.com.

    Point6: Use code "point6trek" for 30% off at point6.com.

    [divider]

    Interview with Clay Bonnyman Evans AKA "Pony"

    • Pony's Book
    • Pony's Instagram
    • Pony's Website

    Time stamps & Questions

    00:04:53 - QOTD: How's your toilet?

    00:14:41 - Introducing Clay Bonnyman Evans AKA "Pony"

    00:15:40 - Discussion about sex on trail.

    00:19:40 - Do you think the ratio of males and females on trail is a factor?

    00:22:14 - What's a wild story you got asking people about sex on trail?

    00:32:04 - Tell us about the New Mexico section of the CDT.

    00:38:45 - Discussion about water sources in New Mexico.

    00:39:21 - Discussion about trail marking in New Mexico.

    00:41:32 - Discussion about trail towns in New Mexico.

    00:43:02 - Odd encounter stories.

    00:46:45 - What wildlife did you see?

    00:49:48 - Discussion about the community of the CDT.

    00:52:20 - Discussion about the relative brutality of the CDT.

    00:53:35 - Tell us your thoughts on snow in Colorado.

    01:01:11 - Do you think people wanted to push through because of forest closures?

    01:03:25 - Discussion about CDT start dates and southbounding.

    01:11:15 - Discussion about the Creede cutoff.

    01:18:46 - Tell us about your book writing process.

    01:24:47 - Discussion about including relationship content in the book.

    01:27:16 - How did you write the book so quickly?

    01:32:02 - Hype for Zach's books.

    01:33:34 - What shoes do you have?

    01:36:38 - Discussion about post trail activity and food.

    01:37:30 - Discussion about hiking sober and Pony's twelve step program experience.

    01:43:18 - Discussion about Pony's social personality.

    01:45:56 - Did you miss drinking more or less than you expected?

    01:47:18 - Pony's story about Garmin troubles.

    01:53:05 - What Pony learned from the Garmin representative.

    02:00:06 - Have you used the Somewhere Labs communicator?

    02:02:40 - Discussion about dead cows.

    02:06:08 - Discussion about living cows and angry bull sounds.

    02:10:15 - Discussion about the popularity of the CDT.

    02:14:50 - Discussion about Chaunce's age.

    02:18:11 - Thanks!

    SEGMENTS

    Trek Propaganda

    • Join our team!

    Triple Crown of reasons Zach's Tahoe Rim Trail trip could get canceled

    5 Star Review

    [divider]

    Check out our sound guy @Paulybooyshallcross.

    Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)! Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play.

    Support us on Patreon to get bonus content.

    Advertise on Backpacker Radio

    Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram.

    Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube.

    Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok.

    A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Jason Lawrence, Christopher Marshburn, Sawyer Products, Brad and Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Patrick Cianciolo, Paul Packman Sealy, Matt Soukup, Jason Snailer, and Greg Mac.

    A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Liz Seger, Cynthia Voth, Emily Brown, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Peter Ellenberg, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven.


    #154 | Backpacking Nutrition: How to Eat Intelligently, Avoiding Post-Trail Weight Gain, Hydration and Supplement Advice Jun 20, 2022
    Show notes

    In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to by RTIC, we are joined by Lauren Capone. In addition to being an accomplished triathlete and runner herself, Lauren holds a Master of Science in Applied Nutrition and works as a Functional and Integrative Health Practitioner at Flatirons Integrative Health & Nutrition in Boulder, CO. Our conversation covers a ton of ground on all things nutrition and health for backpacking and beyond, including why people end up gaining the weight they lose on a backpacking trip so quickly post-trail (and what can be done to prevent that), the metabolic effects of long distance endurance exercise, how to know if you're getting the right amount of calories during your hike, her thoughts on eating keto, vegan, or paleo on trail, what supplements a backpacker should consider using, how to stay properly hydrated on trail, and much more. Simply put, you will walk away from this interview with a ton of useful information. Get the notepad ready.

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    Organifi: Use code "backpacker" for 20% off at organifi.com/backpacker.

    Enlightened Equipment: Use code "thetrek10" for 10% off Enlightened Equipment's Stock Revelation Quilt or Torrid Jacket at enlightenedequipment.com.

    [divider]

    Interview with Lauren Capone

    • Flatirons Integrative Health and Nutrition
    • Lauren's Instagram

    Time stamps & Questions

    00:05:14 - Introducing Lauren

    00:06:13 - How did you get into endurance sports?

    00:08:16 - Tell us about the Ironman.

    00:10:53 - At what point did you do your first full Ironman?

    00:13:24 - What are the qualifying metrics for the Kona Ironman?

    00:15:00 - Tell us the highlights and stats from your Kona race.

    00:17:59 - Did you mentally prepare in addition to physically prepare?

    00:19:22 - Tell us more about the trail running you do now.

    00:20:22 - Tell us your educational background as it relates to nutrition.

    00:22:38 - How should someone think about food before a half-year backpacking trip?

    00:24:27 - What should people think about in terms of macronutrients or overall calorie intake?

    00:26:20 - Do you think there's an advantage to starting a trail with a little extra body weight?

    00:27:43 - What should people think about caloric intake during the trail?

    00:29:45 - Is there anything magical about eating every hour?

    00:31:00 - Do you have a rule of thumb for daily caloric intake?

    00:32:18 - How does someone figure out their BMR?

    00:35:40 - What characteristics should someone look for to know if they're getting enough energy on trail?

    00:41:19 - Would you advise against intermittent fasting while hiking a long trail?

    00:43:24 - Tell us about macronutrients as they relate to backpacking.

    00:46:40 - Do you have a rough starting spot for planning macronutrients?

    00:47:39 - Should people rely on their cravings as a guide or be more targeted?

    00:50:20 - Discussion about protein sources and intake on trail.

    00:54:41 - Are there symptoms of someone getting sufficient carbs but insufficient protein?

    00:55:56 - Do you have thoughts on diets like keto, paleo, vegetarian, or vegan?

    01:00:16 - How should people think about weight loss on trail?

    01:04:10 - Should someone aim for a surplus of calories while eating in town?

    01:09:19 - What happens physiologically when you're in a chronic calorie deficit?

    01:12:35 - Why do females commonly lose their cycles when doing endurance sports?

    01:14:32 - What would other symptoms of caloric deficit look like for males?

    01:17:14 - Is there a rough guide for someone trying to monitor their weight?

    01:18:07 - Why do you think people often put back on weight they lost while hiking?

    01:22:57 - What are your thoughts on prioritizing strength training after a thru-hike?

    01:26:05 - Do you work with athletes with eating disorders?

    01:30:23 - Discussion about weight maintenance after a thru-hike.

    01:31:52 - Do you have a rough guide to staying hydrated on trail?

    01:34:35 - Discussion about adding salt to water.

    01:36:56 - Do you think that electrolyte testing makes sense?

    01:39:03 - Discussion about hyponatremia and ways to avoid it.

    01:43:04 - What are the most common hydration mistakes made by endurance athletes?

    01:44:02 - Do you recommend omega-3 supplements?

    01:45:52 - What are your thoughts on CBD?

    01:46:29 - What else do you recommend related to anti-inflammatory supplements?

    01:48:30 - Thoughts on the chronic use of ibuprofen?

    01:49:48 - Thoughts on protein supplements?

    01:51:10 - Thoughts on a general multivitamin?

    01:52:50 - Thoughts on sleep aids or recommended sleep supplements?

    01:55:12 - Do you have thoughts on higher doses of magnesium?

    01:56:26 - Do you have thoughts on dehydrated green juice?

    01:57:57 - Discussion about nutrient and hormone testing.

    02:02:20 - How can people work with you or Flatirons Integrative?

    02:03:04 - Thank you!

    SEGMENTS

    MG Check-In

    Trek Propaganda

    • Appalachian Trail Shelter in NJ Temporarily Closed After Bear Tried to Enter Tent by Kelly Floro

    [divider]

    Check out our sound guy @Paulybooyshallcross.

    Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)! Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play.

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    A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Jason Lawrence, Christopher Marshburn, Sawyer Products, Brad and Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Patrick Cianciolo, Paul Packman Sealy, Matt Soukup, Jason Snailer, and Greg Mac.

    A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Liz Seger, Cynthia Voth, Emily Brown, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Peter Ellenberg, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven.


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