B The Way Forward

Coming Up on B The Way Forward: The Best Things I Learned From the Worst Day of My Career Feb 26, 2025

It’s never been easy being a woman in tech. But now? When top tech execs say there’s "not enough masculine energy" in “the culture?” It’s a lot. Wouldn’t it be nice to have a show where women who’ve “made it” can share their inspiring success stories?

Sure. But this is not that show.

Because we don’t need “nice,” we need honesty. And, if we’re being honest, failure can teach us even more than success.

In the second half of B The Way Forward’s second season, I’m talking to leaders from Adobe, Google, Slack, and more, to shine a light on the lessons they learned from their worst days. These conversations are candid, sometimes painful, and often funny. But most importantly, they are packed with insights, practical tips, and lessons to help you navigate your career.

Because sometimes what you need to learn from your heroes isn’t how to soar - It’s how to fall flat with grace.

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At our heart, AnitaB.org is a connector: we connect women in tech to the organizations, opportunities, and tools they need to advance, thrive, and transform the future of technology. We convene transformative events, lead essential discussions, produce groundbreaking research and white papers, and support the tech ecosystem to shape the future for women in tech.

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The Environmental Impact of Your Chatbot Habit - Why it Might Be Time to Say Bye to the AI Feb 12, 2025

Here’s a question; how much water do you think a single query of ChatGPT consumes? What about Carbon Emissions? How many round trip flights between New York and San Francisco equal the Co2 emitted by training one Large Language Model? And maybe this is the most important one - how would you even figure those numbers out when the big AI companies don’t make them public?

Concerns about AI’s impact on Climate Change aren’t new, but as extreme weather events like the floods in North Carolina and the wild fires in L.A. become more and more frequent, a lot of us are wondering just how much blame we should lay at AI’s doorstep. How can we make sure that we take our planet into account while continuing to develop this technology?

To help us understand the real cost of all our ChatGPT queries and Dall-E diversions, we’re talking to two women who are both fighting for more transparency around these very questions. Dr. Sasha Luccioni, the Climate Lead at AI company Hugging Face, has chosen to fight for more sustainable AI from within an AI company. On the other hand, Yoca Arditi-Rocha, executive director at the CLEO Institute is deeply skeptical that businesses will choose to put the planet above profit on their own accord.

Can an Insider approach lead to climate-safe AI? Or is it up to activists and outsiders to make sure that all those AI prompts we thought were saving us so much time don’t end up meaning our planet's time is up that much sooner.

For more check out Dr. Luccioni...

On Bluesky - @sashamtl.bsky.social

On X - @SashaMTL

On LinkedIn - /sashaluccioniphd

And for more from Yoca and the CLEO Institute find them...

On X - @Yoca1000 | @CLEOInstitute

On Instagram - @cleoinstitute

On Facebook - /CLEOInstitute

On LinkedIn - /yocamille | /the-cleo-institute

On the Web - cleoinstitute.org

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At AnitaB.org, our mission is to enable and equip women technologists with the tools, resources, and knowledge they need to thrive. Through innovative programs and initiatives, we empower women to chart new paths, better prepared to lead, advance, and achieve equitable compensation. Because when women succeed, they uplift their communities and redefine success on their terms, both professionally and personally.

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Our guests contribute to this podcast in their personal capacity. The views expressed in this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology or its employees (“AnitaB.org”). AnitaB.org is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of the information provided in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast series does not constitute legal or other professional advice or services.

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B The Way Forward Is…

Hosted and Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson.

Produced by Avi Glijansky

Associate Produced by Kelli Kyle

Sound design and editing by Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Additional Producing help from Faith Krogulecki

Operations Coordination for AnitaB.org by Quinton Sprull.

Creative Director for AnitaB.org is Deandra Coleman

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Frequency Machine

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell with Tink Media in partnership with Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

Is AI Going to Take My Job? Unpacking How Workers Are Fighting to Protect Their Careers Feb 05, 2025

Let’s start with the obvious - There is no putting the AI genie back in the bottle.

And frankly, as an organization run by technologists and dedicated to advancing women in tech, we wouldn’t necessarily want to. We believe in the promise of technology. But that doesn’t mean there isn’t a lot to be concerned about with how AI has been developing so far.

Near the top of that list for almost everyone is the question “Is AI going to steal my job?”

For many creatives, that reality of being replaced by generative AI is already feeling frighteningly possible. So in this episode we take a look at the possible impact of AI on our careers through their eyes. How do we create an ethical world where human workers are valued while still developing AI as a powerful force for good? Can we trust that world to be built by AI companies themselves? Or do activists on the outside of Silicon Valley have to fight to make it real?

First up, we talk with Dr. Moiya McTier, an astronomer and Senior Advisor for the Human Artistry CampAIgn, where she advocates for protection and guardrails against AI fraud and cloning among the creative community. Next we talk to award-winning voice over artist and the founder of AI Voice company EthoVox. Instead of waiting for the big AI companies to decimate the artform and community she loves - she created her own company to show how it can be done right.

For more, check out Dr. McTier...

On Bluesky - @goastromo

On Instagram - @goastromo

On TikTok - @goastromo

On Youtube - @dr.moiyamctier7326

And to learn more about the Human Artistry Campaign check them out...

On - X - @human_artistry

On Bluesky - @humanartistry

On Instagram - @humanartistrycampaign

TikTok - @humanartistrycampaign

On the Web - humanartistrycampaign.com

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At AnitaB.org, our mission is to enable and equip women technologists with the tools, resources, and knowledge they need to thrive. Through innovative programs and initiatives, we empower women to chart new paths, better prepared to lead, advance, and achieve equitable compensation. Because when women succeed, they uplift their communities and redefine success on their terms, both professionally and personally.

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Facebook - /anitab.0rg

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Our guests contribute to this podcast in their personal capacity. The views expressed in this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology or its employees (“AnitaB.org”). AnitaB.org is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of the information provided in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast series does not constitute legal or other professional advice or services.

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B The Way Forward Is…

Hosted and Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson.

Produced by Avi Glijansky

Associate Produced by Kelli Kyle

Sound design and editing by Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Additional Producing help from Faith Krogulecki

Operations Coordination for AnitaB.org by Quinton Sprull.

Creative Director for AnitaB.org is Deandra Coleman

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Frequency Machine

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell with Tink Media in partnership with Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

The Revolution Will Be Democratized - How the Working Families Party Uses Data and Tech to Fight for Change Jan 29, 2025

We started this season by asking what’s the best way to create real change - inside or outside of the established system? But sometimes it feels like the systems we’re trying to improve are just too entrenched; it can be hard to imagine any approach being successful. And there might not be anyplace where that feels more true than in our politics.

But Jennifer Knox, the National Director of Organizing and Tech for the Working Families Party doesn’t believe we have to be stuck with the system we have.

WFP is a third party that recruits and runs their own candidates. But they’re also an activist organization that advocates for election reforms and supports major party candidates when they see it as the most effective path for change. In a sense, the Working Families Party is both outside and inside the system. And what’s more, they’re at the forefront of using better tech and better data to do the one thing that really matters in any election - win.

We talk about balancing sweeping change with practical realities, Fusion Tickets, Ranked Choice Voting and how WFP responded when the major parties blocked their access to the main voter data platform — naturally, they built their very own from the ground up.

Most of us can’t imagine a day when we’ll have more than two political parties in the U.S… but after this conversation with Jennifer, you just might change your mind.

For more, check out Jennifer...

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At AnitaB.org, our mission is to enable and equip women technologists with the tools, resources, and knowledge they need to thrive. Through innovative programs and initiatives, we empower women to chart new paths, better prepared to lead, advance, and achieve equitable compensation. Because when women succeed, they uplift their communities and redefine success on their terms, both professionally and personally.

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Connect with AnitaB.org

Instagram - @anitab_org

Facebook - /anitab.0rg

LinkedIn - /anitab-org

On the web - anitab.org

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Our guests contribute to this podcast in their personal capacity. The views expressed in this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology or its employees (“AnitaB.org”). AnitaB.org is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of the information provided in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast series does not constitute legal or other professional advice or services.

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B The Way Forward Is…

Hosted and Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson.

Produced by Avi Glijansky

Associate Produced by Kelli Kyle

Sound design and editing by Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Additional Producing help from Faith Krogulecki

Operations Coordination for AnitaB.org by Quinton Sprull.

Creative Director for AnitaB.org is Deandra Coleman

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Frequency Machine

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell with Tink Media in partnership with Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

Being the Way Forward in the Face of Change - Brenda’s Advice for All of Us Jan 22, 2025

When Americans went to the polls in November of 2024 it felt like in many ways, alongside the presidential candidates, tech was at the top of the ticket. So what will advocacy in this world look like as Donald Trump begins his second term? And what can be done to ensure that the change we’ve worked so hard to create for women and non-binary folks around the country isn’t reversed?

To unpack those questions, and explore how activists and advocacy organizations like AnitaB.org adapt to the tidal shifts of a new administration, we’re doing something different. Normally Brenda asks the questions - but in this episode, she’s the one in the hot seat.

AnitaB.org Deputy Chief of Staff, Quinton Sprull, joins Brenda to ask her about our reality over the next four years, and get her thoughts on how you can continue to lead for good in your home, life and career.

Plus, after 40 episodes, the tables are turned and Brenda finally answers the two questions she’s asked every single one of her guests.

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At AnitaB.org, our mission is to enable and equip women technologists with the tools, resources, and knowledge they need to thrive. Through innovative programs and initiatives, we empower women to chart new paths, better prepared to lead, advance, and achieve equitable compensation. Because when women succeed, they uplift their communities and redefine success on their terms, both professionally and personally.

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Connect with AnitaB.org

Instagram - @anitab_org

Facebook - /anitab.0rg

LinkedIn - /anitab-org

On the web - anitab.org

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Our guests contribute to this podcast in their personal capacity. The views expressed in this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology or its employees (“AnitaB.org”). AnitaB.org is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of the information provided in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast series does not constitute legal or other professional advice or services.

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B The Way Forward Is…

Hosted and Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson.

Produced by Avi Glijansky

Associate Produced by Kelli Kyle

Sound design and editing by Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Additional Producing help from Faith Krogulecki

Operations Coordination for AnitaB.org by Quinton Sprull.

Creative Director for AnitaB.org is Deandra Coleman

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Frequency Machine

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell with Tink Media in partnership with Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

The Kids Are Alright… They’re Just Not Voting - With Paul Jones (Young Dems of IL) and Lucille Wenegieme (HeadCount) Jan 15, 2025

With a new administration about to take office, we’re kicking off our second season of B The Way Forward by talking about one of the most powerful tools for change we have access to -- our vote. And digging into why - in the most recent presidential election -less than 40% of young voters showed up, compared to a record-breaking 50% in 2020.

GenZ and Millennials make up the largest voting bloc in the country. Re-engaging this slice of the electorate will be crucial for preserving our democracy for years to come. But can the major political parties do it? Or is it up to outside groups to find new ways to rally young voters without relying on the goodwill and political fortune of these institutions?

For a perspective on the inside approach, we chat with Paul Jones, President of the Young Democrats of Illinois to see why he thinks young people - traditionally a strong part of the party’s base - stayed home and how the party can get them back.

Then we talk to Lucille Wenegieme, Executive Director non-partisan voter-advocacy group HeadCount to learn why she thinks that to really get young people engaged, you have to meet them where they are - without the baggage of entrenched political parties.

For more from our guests, check out...

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Threads - @Jonesy630

Young Democrats of Illinois on

Instagram - @ilyoungdems

HeadCount on

On X - @headcountorg

On Instagram - @headcountorg

On TikTok - @headcountorg

On Facebook - /HeadCountOrg

On the Web - headcount.org

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At AnitaB.org, our mission is to enable and equip women technologists with the tools, resources, and knowledge they need to thrive. Through innovative programs and initiatives, we empower women to chart new paths, better prepared to lead, advance, and achieve equitable compensation. Because when women succeed, they uplift their communities and redefine success on their terms, both professionally and personally.

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Connect with AnitaB.org

Instagram - @anitab_org

Facebook - /anitab.0rg

LinkedIn - /anitab-org

On the web - anitab.org

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Our guests contribute to this podcast in their personal capacity. The views expressed in this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology or its employees (“AnitaB.org”). AnitaB.org is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of the information provided in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast series does not constitute legal or other professional advice or services.

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B The Way Forward Is…

Hosted and Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson.

Produced by Avi Glijansky

Associate Produced by Kelli Kyle

Sound design and editing by Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Additional Producing help from Faith Krogulecki

Operations Coordination for AnitaB.org by Quinton Sprull.

Creative Director for AnitaB.org is Deandra Coleman

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Frequency Machine

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell with Tink Media in partnership with Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

Coming Soon: B The Way Forward Season 2: Rebuild? Or Burn it Down? Nov 23, 2024

B The Way Forward is coming back with all-new episodes featuring a slate of incredible guests, taking on some of the biggest issues! Including the one that’s central to activism - can we create real change by working within the system? Or do we need to break it to fix it?

Featuring arguments for how to tackle making political representation actually representative, debates on whether Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion initiatives actually work and if you can even have DEI without the “E”, tactics for confronting the enormity of climate change without making it worse for the most vulnerable, and of course AI, this season is an even more urgent call to action than our last.

Join host and AnitaB.org President and CEO, Brenda Darden Wilkerson, as she and her guests sit down at the mic for frank discussions that will challenge your ideas of what activism looks like, generate ideas, spur creativity, and hopefully make you think a little more about the perspectives of people outside your bubble.

Because whether you believe that our current systems can benefit us all, or if you think real progress demands a revolution, there’s one thing that’s clear. Sitting on the sidelines is not an option.

Innovating with Purpose: Driving Equity, Leadership, and Human-Centered Technology in a Data-Driven World Nov 20, 2024

Welcome to B The Way Forward: Interludes - a mini series of special episodes and conversations that stand apart from our regular season, but are just too good not to share.

Dr. Rebecca Anderson, Kendall Holbrook, and Supriya Gupta. All three are leaders within the technology, business and career development spaces. They are all working on truly innovative products, research, and technological solutions to pressing problems. We could do entire episodes with each of them individually about their work - and we just might! But in this episode, recorded live at Grace Hopper Celebration 2024, we’ve invited all three to talk about an important common thread, a shared passion they all have, and that we knowI know you do too if you’re listening. How do we drive innovation while also promoting inclusivity and equity?

Because we all know that those values contribute to more innovation, better outcomes, and thriving workforces… and that isn’t just vibes, there’s data that backs that up. A study by McKinsey and Company found that Tech companies with diverse workforces are 35% more likely to outperform their non-diverse counterparts. And yet, according to another study by Deloitte, women make up only 29% of senior management positions globally and the numbers are similar for historically minoritized individuals.

So can we change that? And how do their fields - human-centric AI, STEM career development, financial technology, and leadership, create opportunities for underrepresented groups and support sustainable, purpose-driven solutions in today’s rapidly evolving industries?

Listen in and find out!

"Stop asking women and non-binary folks to conform to a male gender ideal of leadership. And yet when then we conform to those male ideals, we are punished for acting in ways that are incongruent with our female presenting stereotypes. We're asked to be strong, confident, decisive, but if we do, then we're looked at as aggressive, leading beyond our competence, insensitive. This double bind of having to be both confident and decisive and yet warm and friendly is something we need to get rid of. And I think a lot of that does come from stepping into our acceptance and being really transparent with it." -- Dr. Rebecca Anderson

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At AnitaB.org, we envision a future where the people who imagine and build technology mirror the people and societies for whom they build it. Find out more about how we support women, non-binary individuals, and other underrepresented groups in computing, as well as the organizations that employ them and the academic institutions training the next generations.

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Instagram - @anitab_org

Facebook - /anitab.0rg

LinkedIn - /anitab-org

On the web - anitab.org

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Our guests contribute to this podcast in their personal capacity. The views expressed in this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology or its employees (“AnitaB.org”). AnitaB.org is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of the information provided in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast series does not constitute legal or other professional advice or services.

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B The Way Forward Is…

Hosted and Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson.

Produced by Avi Glijansky

Associate Produced by Kelli Kyle

Sound design and editing by Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Additional Producing help from Faith Krogulecki

Operations Coordination for AnitaB.org by Quinton Sprull.

Creative Director for AnitaB.org is Deandra Coleman

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Frequency Machine

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell with Tink Media in partnership with Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

Tech for Good: Innovating Solutions to Social Challenges Nov 13, 2024

Welcome to B The Way Forward: Interludes - a mini series of special episodes and conversations that stand apart from our regular season, but are just too good not to share.

These days, the headlines can sometimes mostly focus on the challenges in tech - issues like AI ethics and data breaches. But in this special conversation, taped live at Grace Hopper Celebration 2024, Brenda wanted to shift gears!

Because Grace Hopper Celebration is about the belief that when used by the right people, for the right reasons, technology can be one of the greatest forces for good in the world. And that’s what this conversation is all about - the ways in which some of the best minds in tech are innovating, creating groundbreaking platforms and tech to address the most critical social issues of our time.

In this episode, Brenda brings together three friends of the pod - Jimmy Chen (Propel), Dr. Fallon Wilson (VP, Tech Policy, Multicultural Media and Telecom Internet Council), and Devshi Mehrotra (CEO, JusticeText) - to talk about how to leverage technology for good and how you do that ethically, while balancing purpose and profit. And most importantly, to highlight real-world examples of how these solutions make a real difference.

"I think we give for-profit businesses too much of a break and let them off easy and say 'it's just about making money' as opposed to caring about what impact they create on the world. And so if you work at a for-profit, if you are starting a for-profit, if you think about for-profits, hold them accountable to think about what is the impact that they create on the world, not just how much money do they make." -- Jimmy Chen

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At AnitaB.org, we envision a future where the people who imagine and build technology mirror the people and societies for whom they build it. Find out more about how we support women, non-binary individuals, and other underrepresented groups in computing, as well as the organizations that employ them and the academic institutions training the next generations.

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Connect with AnitaB.org

Instagram - @anitab_org

Facebook - /anitab.0rg

LinkedIn - /anitab-org

On the web - anitab.org

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Our guests contribute to this podcast in their personal capacity. The views expressed in this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology or its employees (“AnitaB.org”). AnitaB.org is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of the information provided in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast series does not constitute legal or other professional advice or services.

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B The Way Forward Is…

Hosted and Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson.

Produced by Avi Glijansky

Associate Produced by Kelli Kyle

Sound design and editing by Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Additional Producing help from Faith Krogulecki

Operations Coordination for AnitaB.org by Quinton Sprull.

Creative Director for AnitaB.org is Deandra Coleman

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Frequency Machine

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell with Tink Media in partnership with Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

On the Fence to On The Ballot: How She Should Run’s Erin Loos Cutraro is Working to Put More Women in Office Nov 07, 2024

Welcome to B The Way Forward: Interludes - a mini series of special episodes and conversations that stand apart from our regular season, but are just too good not to share.

Last night was election night in America, and as we publish this episode today (November 6th, 2024) we can say that it was historic - but not because the US elected its first female president. Once again, the highest glass ceiling was cracked but not shattered.

Kamala Harris wasn’t the only woman on the ballot this election. According to the Center for American Women and Politics, 289 women ran for the House, Senate, and Governorships and hundreds more ran in state and city elections. And yet, CAWP’s analysis shows that women made up only about 27% of candidates this cycle. That’s actually down 2% from 2020.

How can our government represent us all when 51% of the population isn't equally represented in public office? And in our current era of intense polarization and heated political rhetoric, how do you even convince women that running for office is worth it?

On this episode of B The Way Forward, Brenda sits down with She Should Run Founder and CEO Erin Loos Cutraro to unpack those questions. They talk about the forces stacked against women who might otherwise run, how they can be overcome, and how to respond to the bad faith arguments leveled at attempts to diversify public office.

“I couldn't get over the fact that the research, and it's still true today, shows that when women run for office, they win at the same rate as men. And I couldn't stand the fact of knowing there were so many women who weren't even in this space to consider their own leadership and that we just needed some kind of effort that would speak to them.”

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At AnitaB.org, we envision a future where the people who imagine and build technology mirror the people and societies for whom they build it. Find out more about how we support women, non-binary individuals, and other underrepresented groups in computing, as well as the organizations that employ them and the academic institutions training the next generations.

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Connect with AnitaB.org

Instagram - @anitab_org

Facebook - /anitab.0rg

LinkedIn - /anitab-org

On the web - anitab.org

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Our guests contribute to this podcast in their personal capacity. The views expressed in this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology or its employees (“AnitaB.org”). AnitaB.org is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of the information provided in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast series does not constitute legal or other professional advice or services.

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B The Way Forward Is…

Hosted and Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson.

Produced by Avi Glijansky

Associate Produced by Kelli Kyle

Sound design and editing by Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Additional Producing help from Faith Krogulecki

Operations Coordination for AnitaB.org by Quinton Sprull.

Creative Director for AnitaB.org is Deandra Coleman

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Frequency Machine

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell with Tink Media in partnership with Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

Announcing B The Way Forward: Interludes Nov 01, 2024

The B The Way Forward team is hard at work on Season 2, premiering in December 2024. But you won't have to wait until then for more of the the honest, insightful, and inspiring conversations you’ve come to expect from this feed.

Introducing B The Way Forward: Interludes - special episodes and conversations that stand apart from our regular season, but are just too good not to share.

First up, two interludes focused on ways that our democracy is working at a time when many of us are scared it's on the verge of becoming irreversibly dysfunctional.

The first is a special conversation - taped live at Grace Hopper Celebration 2024 - with the United State’s Chief Information Officer of the White House, Clare Martorana and the Senior Advisor to the Chief Information Officer, Noreen Hecmanczuk [Heck-min-zek]. Clare and Noreen share how the OFCIO is using technology to transform the way we interact with our government, and make it easier for citizens to participate.

Then, a conversation with Erin Loos Cutraro the founder and CEO of She Should Run, a national non-partisan organization working to drastically increase the number of women considering a run for office.

And this first min-series of Interludes wraps up with two more episodes taped live at GHC24. Both focuson how we can create innovation that makes the world a more equitable place - and despite what some folks may say - do it while also creating successful businesses.

So if you haven’t already, follow B The Way Forward wherever you listen, or watch video versions of these episodes at anitab.org/podcast.

Transforming Government: Innovation, AI, and Human-Centered Policy with Clare Martorana and Noreen Hecmanczuk Nov 01, 2024

Welcome to B The Way Forward: Interludes - a mini series of special episodes and conversations that stand apart from our regular season, but are just too good not to share.

A lot of things probably spring to mind when you hear the words “Federal Government.” “Innovation, understanding, adoption, and regulation of new technology” is likely not one of them. More likely, citizen-facing government technology brings to mind websites that feel outdated - like something still stuck in the era of dial up.

But in this special episode of B The Way Forward, recorded live at Grace Hopper Celebration 2024, Brenda speaks to two incredible leaders working to change that - Clare Martorana, the President’s Federal Chief Information Officer and Noreen Hecmanczuk, the Senior Advisor to the Federal Chief Information Officer. Together with the rest of the staff of the OFCIO, Clare and Noreen are doing so much more than merely pushing for the adoption of new technology. They’re working to save taxpayer dollars, make sure that it’s easier for all of us to interact with our government, and streamline citizen participation.

In this conversation, Clare and Noreen talk about the challenges and opportunities of driving digital transformation in government, from navigating complex agency processes to ensuring AI governance. Plus, how they harness talent - maybe even talent like you - to deliver more efficient, secure, and user-friendly government services.

“We have federal employees doing extraordinary things. We not only need to meet our federal employees and make it easier for them to do their jobs, but we also owe it to the American public for us to be able to use the incredible technology - that we've mostly invented in America - to benefit the public. Like that is the most simple thing. So to me, digital transformation is just inherently American. And it is something that we can continue to advance and streamline. But what it takes, is people like you joining.”

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Our guests contribute to this podcast in their personal capacity. The views expressed in this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology or its employees (“AnitaB.org”). AnitaB.org is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of the information provided in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast series does not constitute legal or other professional advice or services.

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B The Way Forward Is…

Hosted and Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson.

Produced by Avi Glijansky

Associate Produced by Kelli Kyle

Sound design and editing by Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Additional Producing help from Faith Krogulecki

Operations Coordination for AnitaB.org by Quinton Sprull.

Creative Director for AnitaB.org is Deandra Coleman

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Frequency Machine

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell with Tink Media in partnership with Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

How Humans and AI can Work Together with BCG’s Suchi Srinivasan Oct 17, 2024

On this episode of “B The Way Forward,” host Brenda Darden Wilkerson is joined by AI and digital technology expert, Suchi Srinivasan. With over 20 years of experience in the industry, Suchi is extremely sought after for her expertise and knowledge and is currently managing director and partner at Boston Consulting Group. Suchi sits at the helm of the artificial intelligence space where she is passionate about using technology to solve some of the world’s most complex problems. Suchi tells Brenda about her personal career journey and how her own engineer father inspired the path she’s on today. Together, they chat through their tech industry experiences and why we need more representation in the building of AI technology.

Suchi gives listeners critical advice for familiarizing yourself with new AI technology and how she keeps an optimistic view for the future of emerging technologies. Brenda and Suchi also reminisce on their shared experiences as podcast hosts and the importance of sharing these stories. You can find Suchi co-hosting Boston Consulting Group’s “In Her Ellement” Podcast, showcasing women at the vanguard of business, digital, and technology.

“Tech has to make our human existence better. It's not the other way around. And it's really important for us to remember that and bring that perspective into whatever our job is. Whether we're a designer, whether we're a software engineer, whether we're a business decision maker, it doesn't matter. But it's all in service of humanity.”

For more, check out Sushi and Boston Consulting Group...

On LinkedIn - /boston-consulting-group & /bcg-X

On X - @BCG & @bcgx_

On Instagram - @bcg & @bcgx_

On Facebook - /BostonConsultingGroup

And listen to Suchi's podcast, In Her Ellement

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B The Way Forward Is…

Produced by Dominique Ferrari and Paige Hymson

Sound design and editing by Neil Innes and Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Associate Producer is Faith Krogulecki

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Riveter Studios and Frequency Machine

Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson for AnitaB.org

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell and Arielle Nissenblatt with Riveter Studios and Tink Media in partnership with Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

Trishala Pillai’s Toolkit for Competence, Confidence, and Advocacy Oct 09, 2024

On this episode of “B The Way Forward,” host Brenda Darden Wilkerson talks with multi-tasker extraordinaire Trishala Pillai. Outside of Trishala’s day job as senior product manager of supply chain innovation and automation at Walmart, she also serves as a board member at AnitaB.org and a producer at the media company she founded called Jugaad Community. Together, Brenda and Trishala talk through how to bring creativity to your career and how to find new opportunities in emerging technologies. Their conversation is sure to get your creative juices flowing and Trishala offers helpful advice for anyone looking toward the next chapter of their career.

“A lot of the time, it's not that you don't have the skills to be impactful in a new role, it's that you don't know the story to tell around your experiences and your career so far. So, when I speak with folks who reach out to me for conversations, the second thing I tell them after orienting themselves and understanding what the landscape looks like is: connect the dots in your own experience, and not just your professional experiences, but also your personal experiences.”

For more, check out Trishala and her work...

On LinkedIn - /trishalapillai

On Instagram - @_trishalapillai

One YouTube -@_trishalapillai/videos

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At AnitaB.org, we envision a future where the people who imagine and build technology mirror the people and societies for whom they build it. Find out more about how we support women, non-binary individuals, and other underrepresented groups in computing, as well as the organizations that employ them and the academic institutions training the next generations.

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Our guests contribute to this podcast in their personal capacity. The views expressed in this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology or its employees (“AnitaB.org”). AnitaB.org is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of the information provided in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast series does not constitute legal or other professional advice or services.

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B The Way Forward Is…

Produced by Dominique Ferrari and Paige Hymson

Sound design and editing by Neil Innes and Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Associate Producer is Faith Krogulecki

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Riveter Studios and Frequency Machine

Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson for AnitaB.org

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell and Arielle Nissenblatt with Riveter Studios and Tink Media in partnership with Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

From College Capstone to Tech Startup: How JusticeText Increases Equity in the Criminal Justice System Oct 02, 2024

Devshi Mehrotra and Leslie Jones-Dove join host Brenda Darden Wilkerson on this inspiring episode of “B The Way Forward.” Devshi and Leslie are the CEO and CTO, respectively, and co-founders of JusticeText, an MIT and Google-backed startup that is building technology to better improve the criminal justice system. They talk Brenda through the mission of their company – to hold law enforcement accountable and ensure that low-income criminal defendants get their chance at an equal and fair trial. JusticeText started as a college capstone project and has now grown into a successful California-based startup.

Devshi and Leslie explain how their program takes media files and evidence and creates transcriptions that help public defenders analyze data before trials. They share personal and emotional stories with Brenda about the positive impact that JusticeText has had on public defenders, their clients and families. Plus, they share business insights into how they started their company and what it’s been like to fundraise, work with investors, and build their brand. Devshi and Leslie’s passions to improve the criminal justice system shine through this episode and you will leave the conversation feeling motivated to pursue dreams that can make the world a better place.

“I think there's no excuse in this day and age for our government systems to be relying on such inadequate technology systems. So, I think there's a lot for us to be wary of when it comes to facial recognition, gang databases, things like that, but I think we should also just focus on: how do we build tools for the people who are advocating for everyday people?”

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At AnitaB.org, we envision a future where the people who imagine and build technology mirror the people and societies for whom they build it. Find out more about how we support women, non-binary individuals, and other underrepresented groups in computing, as well as the organizations that employ them and the academic institutions training the next generations.

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Our guests contribute to this podcast in their personal capacity. The views expressed in this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology or its employees (“AnitaB.org”). AnitaB.org is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of the information provided in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast series does not constitute legal or other professional advice or services.

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B The Way Forward Is…

Produced by Dominique Ferrari and Paige Hymson

Sound design and editing by Neil Innes and Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Associate Producer is Faith Krogulecki

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Riveter Studios and Frequency Machine

Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson for AnitaB.org

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell and Arielle Nissenblatt with Riveter Studios and Tink Media in partnership with Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

Embracing your Roots: How Yai Vargas is Growing and Empowering the Hispanic Community Sep 25, 2024

Host Brenda Darden Wilkerson is joined by speaker, author, founder, and DEI advocate, Yai Vargas, in this episode of “B the Way Forward.” Yai’s big belief that “women are the heart and soul of an organization” rings true in everything she does and stands for. Yai tells Brenda about her personal journey as a woman from the Dominican Republic who immigrated to the United States at an early age and realized quickly how important it was to connect with her Latin roots. After landing what she thought was her dream job, Yai opens up about her disappointment when noticing the gap of diversity in her workplace. She tells Brenda that executive roles need to be more representative of the US population – only about 5% of corporate board positions are held by Hispanics.

This experience led Yai to make a professional career change, pivot entirely to the world of DEI, and build “The Latinista,” a national network for professional Latinas and women of color invested in skills development and career mobility. Yai is known as the “LinkedIn Networking Ninja” and together, Yai and Brenda discuss the importance of community and how to use your own network to bring people together.

“We all start from somewhere. And even though some corporations have been around for 150 years, it's our journey of figuring out how our business is evolving with the inclusion of what demographic is going to work with us, in our community.”

For more, check out Yai and the Latanista ...

On LinkedIn - /yaivargas

On the Web - www.TheLatinista.com | www.YaiVargas.com

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Our guests contribute to this podcast in their personal capacity. The views expressed in this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology or its employees (“AnitaB.org”). AnitaB.org is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of the information provided in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast series does not constitute legal or other professional advice or services.

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B The Way Forward Is…

Produced by Dominique Ferrari and Paige Hymson

Sound design and editing by Neil Innes and Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Associate Producer is Faith Krogulecki

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Riveter Studios and Frequency Machine

Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson for AnitaB.org

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell and Arielle Nissenblatt with Riveter Studios and Tink Media in partnership with Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

Empowering Kids through EdTech with Encantos CEO Susie Jaramillo Sep 18, 2024

On this episode of “B The Way Forward,” host Brenda Darden Wilkerson has a powerful conversation with Susie Jaramillo, an Emmy nominated director, artist, storyteller and entrepreneur who uses the power of media to introduce diverse cultures to children. Influenced by her Venezuelan roots, Susie noticed a lack of inclusive representation in storytelling for her two young kids. According to the US Census, Gen Alpha will be the most diverse generation in history, yet they remain severely underrepresented in the media.

Susie hopes to change that as the Co-founder and CEO of Encantos, a children’s entertainment company that tells purpose-driven stories inspired by cultures all over the world. Encantos features books, puzzles and games, and an app called Canticos, which allows children to learn both English and Spanish through vibrant storytelling and songs. As the first Latina CEO of a children’s entertainment company, Susie shares how storytelling can inspire, teach and help us understand other cultures. Through her work, Susie is encouraged to unite families through culture, and draw together communities.

“It's so rich. It's so fun. It's the spice of life. And so, I kind of have made it my mission to really just showcase how gorgeous all the different aspects of our culture are and to use that in media, and in children's media.”

For more, check out Susie and her work on...

Instagram - @sujaramillo & @canticosworld

X - @sujaramillo & @canticosworld

TikTok - @sujaramillo & @canticosworld

LinkedIn - /susanjaramillo

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Our guests contribute to this podcast in their personal capacity. The views expressed in this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology or its employees (“AnitaB.org”). AnitaB.org is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of the information provided in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast series does not constitute legal or other professional advice or services.

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B The Way Forward Is…

Produced by Dominique Ferrari and Paige Hymson

Sound design and editing by Neil Innes and Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Associate Producer is Faith Krogulecki

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Riveter Studios and Frequency Machine

Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson for AnitaB.org

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell and Arielle Nissenblatt with Riveter Studios and Tink Media in partnership with Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

Harnessing Soft Power: Using Connection and Strategy to Advance the World Sep 11, 2024

On this episode of “B The Way Forward,” you’ll receive a master class in soft power strategies with Forbes Columnist and leadership expert, Penny Abeywardena. Penny introduces us to her new company, Soft Power Strategies, and tells host Brenda Darden Wilkerson why the use of soft power is beneficial on a variety of issues. As the former Commissioner for International Affairs of the city of New York, Penny talks about her experiences leading the agency and what it was like to serve the largest diplomatic corps in the world. Penny’s successful career spans across philanthropy, non-profit, government, and more. She and Brenda talk about their personal journeys facing up against certain power dynamics and Penny offers advice on how to strategize and combat those situations. In this episode, you’ll learn how to identify strategies of influence and persuasion when there is little or no perceived power. Plus, Brenda and Penny discuss the importance of registering to vote and how you can prepare to vote meaningfully in this election year.

“These are conversations we need to have with our friends, with our religious community, with whoever you feel you can talk to. But do not think that there's nothing you can do. There is a way to activate and it's up to us to help you get there. And I hope you keep these channels of information open so that you can see and align yourself with how you want to be the change you want to see.”

For more, check out Penny and her work on...

X - @PAbeywardena

Instagram - @pabeywardena

LinkedIn - /pennyabeywardena

On the Web - pennyabeywardena.com | softpowerstrategies.com

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Our guests contribute to this podcast in their personal capacity. The views expressed in this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology or its employees (“AnitaB.org”). AnitaB.org is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of the information provided in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast series does not constitute legal or other professional advice or services.

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B The Way Forward Is…

Produced by Dominique Ferrari and Paige Hymson

Sound design and editing by Neil Innes and Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Associate Producer is Faith Krogulecki

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Riveter Studios and Frequency Machine

Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson for AnitaB.org

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell and Arielle Nissenblatt with Riveter Studios and Tink Media in partnership with Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

Ethical Artificial Intelligence with Deloitte AI Institute’s Beena Ammanath Aug 28, 2024

On this episode of “B The Way Forward,” Host Brenda Darden Wilkerson is joined by Beena Ammanath, an executive, author, advocate, AnitaB.org board member, and nonprofit founder, who aims to increase awareness on the use, risks, and benefits of artificial intelligence, all while promoting diversity in this niche tech space. Beena is the Executive Director at the Deloitte Global AI Institute, where she helps companies and businesses learn how to leverage AI in the most practical and safe ways possible. Through this conversation, Beena offers listeners insight on how to utilize AI in every aspect of business and in our own personal career paths. As a computer scientist by trade, there was nothing in Beena’s education or curriculum about ethics in the AI space, which led her into forging her own unique path to incorporate them into her career.

Beena penned Trustworthy AI, a book that bridges the gap for readers on ethics and AI, and Zero Latency Leadership, which looks at other new emerging technologies that are on the horizon. Through all of this work, she also became an advocate for women and minorities in the AI realm, knowing that in order for AI to be successful, it needs to have diverse voices at the table. Brenda and Beena discuss how more people can become “AI Fluent”, why diversity in technology is crucial, and how to raise your voice to make the best use of these technologies.

“Diversity has so many different angles. It's the culture, the experience, the education, age, the geographic location you come from. There are so many nuances to diversity, and for your AI products to be robust, you have to factor in. Start with the largest demographic, but try to bring in as much diversity to your AI teams as you can, because it's only going to make your product better and make more profit.”

For more, check out Been and Delloitte...

On LinkedIn - /bammanath | /delloitte

On the Web - https://beenammanath.com/ | Deloitte AI Institute - AI Insights

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At AnitaB.org, we envision a future where the people who imagine and build technology mirror the people and societies for whom they build it. Find out more about how we support women, non-binary individuals, and other underrepresented groups in computing, as well as the organizations that employ them and the academic institutions training the next generations.

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Our guests contribute to this podcast in their personal capacity. The views expressed in this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology or its employees (“AnitaB.org”). AnitaB.org is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of the information provided in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast series does not constitute legal or other professional advice or services.

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B The Way Forward Is…

Produced by Dominique Ferrari and Paige Hymson

Sound design and editing by Neil Innes and Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Associate Producer is Faith Krogulecki

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Riveter Studios and Frequency Machine

Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson for AnitaB.org

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell and Arielle Nissenblatt with Riveter Studios and Tink Media in partnership with Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

Brave, Not Perfect: Closing the Gender Gap in Tech with Girls Who Code CEO Tarika Barrett Aug 21, 2024

In this episode of “B The Way Forward,” host Brenda Darden Wilkerson is joined by Girls Who Code CEO, Tarika Barrett. Tarika took over the helm at Girls Who Code in 2021 and has been the driving force behind the nonprofit that aims to close the gender gap in technology careers by inspiring, educating and equipping students with computing skills to take on 21st century opportunities. Since Girls Who Code was launched in 2012, they have reached over 600,000 young people with their educational programming - and Tarika is continuing to expand that reach.

A proud daughter of Jamaican immigrants, Tarika’s mother instilled values of equality and positive change in her life. Since then, Tarika’s career has been dedicated to addressing education inequities, in terms of race, gender, and socioeconomic status. Brenda and Tarika discuss the importance of diversity in the tech space and why giving equal representation inspires the next generation to see themselves in the tech industry, too. With women comprising only roughly 25 percent of computing roles, and Black and Latinx women just a little over 5 percent of that, Tarika and Girls Who Code are working to change those statistics.

“When we see our women, our girls, our people of color seek out tech jobs, they become the creators and the change makers. They can advocate for the kinds of tech that keeps our needs and our safety and our interests top of mind.”

For more, check out Tarika and her work...

On LinkedIn - /tarikabarrett & /girlswhocode

On X - @DrTarikaBarrett & @GirlsWhoCode

On Instagram - @GirlsWhoCode

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At AnitaB.org, we envision a future where the people who imagine and build technology mirror the people and societies for whom they build it. Find out more about how we support women, non-binary individuals, and other underrepresented groups in computing, as well as the organizations that employ them and the academic institutions training the next generations.

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Our guests contribute to this podcast in their personal capacity. The views expressed in this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology or its employees (“AnitaB.org”). AnitaB.org is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of the information provided in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast series does not constitute legal or other professional advice or services.

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B The Way Forward Is…

Produced by Dominique Ferrari and Paige Hymson

Sound design and editing by Neil Innes and Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Associate Producer is Faith Krogulecki

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Riveter Studios and Frequency Machine

Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson for AnitaB.org

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell and Arielle Nissenblatt with Riveter Studios and Tink Media in partnership with Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

Chelsey Glasson: From Battling Discrimination to Transforming Tech Culture Aug 14, 2024

In this episode of “B The Way Forward,” host Brenda Darden Wilkerson speaks with Chelsey Glasson about pregnancy discrimination in the workplace and why your voice matters. Chelsey, author of, “Black Box: A Pregnancy Discrimination Memoir,” gives us an inside look at how companies may perpetuate harassment in the workplace, and offers tools and resources to navigate these scenarios.

In this conversation, Chelsey explains the pregnancy discrimination that she faced at a large tech company and shares advice for people who may find themselves in similar situations. Now, Chelsey is on her healing journey and shares how her experience led her to become a writer, advocate and future attorney. Together, Brenda and Chelsey hope that sharing more of these stories will inspire others to speak out against these types of injustices.

“You have to do what's right for you in terms of healing. And it's okay to prioritize that. And for me, the right thing is to transition away from tech. But, because I went through this journey, because I'm a researcher and I love being in the space of innovation, I realize all of these opportunities within the legal system to better support people who have experienced workplace misconduct.”

For more, check out Chelsey and her work...

On LinkedIn - /chelsey-glasson

Watch the Book Trailer for her memoir, Black Box, and find out more at blackboxthebook.com

Read Chelsey's most recent Op-Ed on Pregnancy Discrimination at Fast Company.

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At AnitaB.org, we envision a future where the people who imagine and build technology mirror the people and societies for whom they build it. Find out more about how we support women, non-binary individuals, and other underrepresented groups in computing, as well as the organizations that employ them and the academic institutions training the next generations.

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Our guests contribute to this podcast in their personal capacity. The views expressed in this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology or its employees (“AnitaB.org”). AnitaB.org is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of the information provided in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast series does not constitute legal or other professional advice or services.

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B The Way Forward Is…

Produced by Dominique Ferrari and Paige Hymson

Sound design and editing by Neil Innes and Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Associate Producer is Faith Krogulecki

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Riveter Studios and Frequency Machine

Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson for AnitaB.org

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell and Arielle Nissenblatt with Riveter Studios and Tink Media in partnership with Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

How Linda Kamau’s AkiraChix is Empowering Women to Thrive in Tech Aug 07, 2024

On this episode of “B The Way Forward,” host Brenda Darden Wilkerson is joined by Linda Kamau, Founder & Executive Director of AkiraChix, a Kenya-based company dedicated to providing training, mentorship and outreach programs to increase the number of skilled women in technology. As a champion for women in tech, Linda hopes to bring more women to the center of the growing technology ecosystem in African communities and beyond. When women come together to participate in AkiraChix programs like CodeHive and CodeHiveX, they not only learn more STEM skills, but they also create a sisterhood and strong community. Linda tells Brenda that so far, AkiraChix has graduated 485 young women and 80% of them are employed and earning money. They also discuss the development of soft skills, barriers that women continue to face in Africa and why having hands-on experience is so important. Linda challenges more companies to focus on inclusion and invest in the talented pool of women in tech. This conversation will leave you feeling inspired and optimistic by the work Linda is doing across the world.

“There's still some parts, even in our country, that don't advocate for girls' education. And so, pushing back on that and being able to show them that when you educate a young woman, our whole society changes. And so being able to do that really, really means that we can get more young women in tech.”

For more, check out Linda and AkiraChix on...

X - @lkamau | @akirachix

Instagram - @lkamau | @akirachix

Facebook - /AkiraChix

LinkedIn - /linda-kamau-a5288125 | /akirachix

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Our guests contribute to this podcast in their personal capacity. The views expressed in this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology or its employees (“AnitaB.org”). AnitaB.org is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of the information provided in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast series does not constitute legal or other professional advice or services.

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B The Way Forward Is…

Produced by Dominique Ferrari and Paige Hymson

Sound design and editing by Neil Innes and Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Associate Producer is Faith Krogulecki

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Riveter Studios and Frequency Machine

Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson for AnitaB.org

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell and Arielle Nissenblatt with Riveter Studios and Tink Media in partnership with Carolyn Schneller and Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

The Power of Self Promotion: Mariana Carvalho’s Advice for Professional Development Jul 31, 2024

On this episode of “B The Way Forward,” host Brenda Darden Wilkerson is joined by Mariana Carvalho, a computer scientist, author, career mentor, DEI advocate and so much more. Mariana is a great example of the success that comes from networking and finding community for women in tech – She’s a Grace Hopper Celebration Scholar, a Systers Pass it On Award winner, an AnitaB.org scholarship reviewer and mentor. She’s used her successful experiences to empower other women through sisterhood, self advocacy, and her career mentorship programs.

As the Co-Founder of Brazilians in Tech, Mariana tells Brenda about her career journey into technology and how she found her footing in the corporate world. Brenda and Mariana also do a mini career mentor session, where listeners can gain insight on how best to approach the job market, network, interview, and more. Mariana, who was named the Mentor of the Year in 2023 by the WomenTech Network, is also an author and the Editor in Chief of Women in Technology Publication. Together, Brenda and Mariana share how their personal passions drive their careers and offer advice for listeners who might be looking to make an impactful change.

“You feel that you are alone, but when you close your laptop, just know that you have your community behind you. They are going to be there for you. You might feel that you are alone, but you are not. You need to remember that every single day.”

For more of Mariana and her work check out...

LinkedIn - /mari

Instagram: @hellomariworld

X - @hellomariworld

Threads - @hellomariworld

On the Web - hellomariworld.com

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Our guests contribute to this podcast in their personal capacity. The views expressed in this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology or its employees (“AnitaB.org”). AnitaB.org is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of the information provided in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast series does not constitute legal or other professional advice or services.

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B The Way Forward Is…

Produced by Dominique Ferrari and Paige Hymson

Sound design and editing by Neil Innes and Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Associate Producer is Faith Krogulecki

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Riveter Studios and Frequency Machine

Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson for AnitaB.org

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell and Arielle Nissenblatt with Riveter Studios and Tink Media in partnership with Carolyn Schneller and Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

Career Coach Aaron Fung has Advice for People Feeling Stuck in their Careers Jul 24, 2024

On this episode of “B The Way Forward,” host Brenda Darden Wilkerson sits down with career coach and DEI professional, Aaron Fung, to talk about balancing your personal passions with your career goals. Aaron’s career coaching business, CoachingAF, helps people find a career path that actually resonates with them. As someone who moved around jobs and industries in the past, Aaron hopes to help others feeling the same way he did – stuck or lost – to find their true passions.

Brenda and Aaron open up about the valuable information they’ve both gleaned from trying work in different spaces that didn’t suit their personal goals. Plus, Aaron shares some of his career coaching advice like the powerful questions he asks to get his clients thinking more deeply: “How did you get into your first job?” “What do you really want from work?” Aaron, who once thought he’d be working in financial planning forever, also talks about his latest role at startup company, Crew, where he focuses on coaching operations and business development. Brenda and Aaron also discuss how personal family experience impacts what they do in the workplace. Aaron was previously a diversity and inclusion manager at Pinterest, and he’s passionate about bringing inclusivity into all the new work that he does.

“If you can have some perspective to help people who are in a different identity segment, you are establishing your character as recognizing that there are differences in the ways people are perceived. And, we should do better to open the doors wider. So that more underrepresented founders can have that chance to get funded because their idea really could be world changing.”

For more, check out Aaron...

On LinkedIn - /aaronlfung, /coachingaf and /inclusionaf

On Instagram - @goseetheworldfung/

On the Web - coachingaf.com and aaronfung.me

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Our guests contribute to this podcast in their personal capacity. The views expressed in this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology or its employees (“AnitaB.org”). AnitaB.org is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of the information provided in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast series does not constitute legal or other professional advice or services.

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B The Way Forward Is…

Produced by Dominique Ferrari and Paige Hymson

Sound design and editing by Neil Innes and Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Associate Producer is Faith Krogulecki

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Riveter Studios and Frequency Machine

Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson for AnitaB.org

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell and Arielle Nissenblatt with Riveter Studios and Tink Media in partnership with Carolyn Schneller and Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

Breaking Down the Myths about Menopause with Dr. Mary Claire Haver Jul 18, 2024

On today’s episode of “B The Way Forward” we’re busting some common menopause myths with Dr. Mary Claire Haver. Host Brenda Darden Wilkerson sits down with Dr. Haver who not only is a board-certified OB/GYN, physician, and entrepreneur but she’s also amassed over 3 million followers on her social media platforms. Dr. Haver uses her voice as a resource for women to better understand both perimenopause and menopause symptoms and solutions for improved health. She’s also founder of the “Pause Life,” a comprehensive approach to menopause education and founder of “The Galveston Diet,” a nutrition program for women in menopause.

Brenda and Dr. Haver talk about the shocking misconceptions and cliche symptoms – hot flashes, weight gain – that don’t always complete the big picture for every woman. Their conversation hopes to bring attention to and normalize conversations around women's health. Plus, Dr. Haver opens up about all the wrong information she was once taught and why that inspired her to become a resource for women everywhere. Dr. Haver’s second book, “The New Menopause,” is out now.

“I'd go digging, digging, digging in the research and find, oh my gosh, there is a connection here and no one's talking about it. So, I start talking about it just so I can educate others so we stop being gaslit and feel so crazy with no explanation of how we went from healthy to suffering with no answers.”

Find more of Dr. Haver and her work...

On TikTok - @drmaryclaire

On Instagram - @drmaryclaire & @the.galveston.diet

On Facebook - /drmaryclaire

On YouTube - /@maryclairehavermd8473

On LinkedIn - /the-pause-life

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Our guests contribute to this podcast in their personal capacity. The views expressed in this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology or its employees (“AnitaB.org”). AnitaB.org is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of the information provided in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast series does not constitute legal or other professional advice or services.

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B The Way Forward Is…

Produced by Dominique Ferrari and Paige Hymson

Sound design and editing by Neil Innes and Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Associate Producer is Faith Krogulecki

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Riveter Studios and Frequency Machine

Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson for AnitaB.org

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell and Arielle Nissenblatt with Riveter Studios and Tink Media in partnership with Carolyn Schneller and Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

Mentra’s Jhillika Kumar is on a Mission to Empower the Neurodivergent Workforce Jul 10, 2024

On this episode of “B The Way Forward,” host Brenda Darden Wilkerson and guest Jhillika Kumar discuss her passion to empower the neurodivergent community. Jhillika’s list of accolades started at a young age including the AnitaB.org Student of Vision Award, her inspiring Ted Talk and Forbes 30 Under 30 recognition. Jhillka is the CEO and founder of Mentra, an employment network committed to matching neurodivergent individuals with employers. From a young age, Jhillika was inspired to build an inclusive world and place for her non-speaking, autistic brother to thrive. Now, she’s offering advice and guidance to communities of students and neurodivergent individuals and helping them find opportunities in the workforce. Jhillika’s company has found great success so far with around 44,000 neurodivergent job seekers on their platform today and an investment from OpenAI co-founder and CEO Sam Altman. Jhillika and Brenda discuss why it’s important for hiring managers to understand intersectionality and learn how people can have differences ranging from life experiences, cultures, gender identities, and more. Plus, Jhillika offers her advice for other young entrepreneurs looking to make a change in the world.

“Our company serves as Mentors to both job seekers, because we empower them through the journey to find a job, to navigate interviews and all the executive functioning involved in that complicated process, to mentoring the recruiters on how do you communicate with someone who's neurodivergent and thinks differently? How do you evaluate talent? How do you overcome the bias that you might have because someone behaves a certain different way or speaks differently?”

For more of Jhillika and her work check out:

LinkedIn - /jhillika

Instagram - @jhillika

X - @Jhillika

Facebook - /jhillika

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Our guests contribute to this podcast in their personal capacity. The views expressed in this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology or its employees (“AnitaB.org”). AnitaB.org is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of the information provided in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast series does not constitute legal or other professional advice or services.

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B The Way Forward Is…

Produced by Dominique Ferrari and Paige Hymson

Sound design and editing by Neil Innes and Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Associate Producer is Faith Krogulecki

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Riveter Studios and Frequency Machine

Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson for AnitaB.org

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell and Arielle Nissenblatt with Riveter Studios and Tink Media in partnership with Carolyn Schneller and Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

The Power of Inclusion: Breaking the Status Quo with former Netflix VP of Inclusion Strategy Vernā Myers Jun 19, 2024

This episode of “B The Way Forward,” explores how to take action and overcome bias with world renowned diversity, equity, and inclusion consultant, Vernā Myers. Vernā has spent over 25 years in DEI consulting, helping companies find value and focus on more inclusive environments. She tells Brenda about her early career journey – as a Harvard educated lawyer – and why she ultimately founded The Vernā Myers Company for building more inclusive and culturally competent work environments.

Vernā also served as Netflix’s first head of inclusion strategy where she was instrumental in leading initiatives that moved DEI to the forefront of the company. In this episode, Brenda and Vernā look back at civil rights leaders and the moments that led towards positive social change, and what lessons we can learn from them today. Plus, Vernā shares more about her podcast, Sundays With Vernā which features powerful conversations about bridging our divided society. This conversation offers insight into why we should all use reflection and compassion to play a role in making our world better.

“DEI is saying we need to create a place where people feel that they are expected, that they are reflected, and that they are respected. Like all of those things that were not happening because we created organizations to really fit around a certain, powerful status group.”

Check out more of Verna and her work...

On X - @VernaMyers

On Instagram - @VernaMyers

On LinkedIn - /Verna Myers

On Facebook - /VernaMyers.SpeakerPage

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Our guests contribute to this podcast in their personal capacity. The views expressed in this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology or its employees (“AnitaB.org”). AnitaB.org is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of the information provided in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast series does not constitute legal or other professional advice or services.

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B The Way Forward Is…

Produced by Dominique Ferrari and Paige Hymson

Sound design and editing by Neil Innes and Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Associate Producer is Faith Krogulecki

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Riveter Studios and Frequency Machine

Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson for AnitaB.org

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell and Arielle Nissenblatt with Riveter Studios and Tink Media in partnership with Carolyn Schneller and Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

From Chalkboards to Devices: How Ed Tech's Monica Burns is Leveraging Digital Tools in the Classroom Jun 05, 2024

In today’s digital age, there’s been a massive shift in the way we’re teaching and learning in the classroom. On this episode of “B The Way Forward,” Dr. Monica Burns, author of EdTech Essentials, joins host Brenda Darden Wilkerson to unpack the unique ways to use technology in education. Monica is an EdTech consultant and expert who started the online platform, Class Tech Tips. She helps students, teachers, administrators and parents alike learn how they can benefit from and integrate new digital tools in their education journeys.

Monica talks with Brenda about what types of tools and features are assisting with student engagement, how to integrate technology in varying educational settings and tips for how to successfully adopt EdTech in the classroom. They also discuss equity in education and how EdTech can help provide a voice to all people in all communities such as through accessibility features within particular tools. Monica hopes that everyone walks away with the knowledge and inspiration to integrate EdTech in their respective educational settings.

“The biggest way to make an impact is to listen and take action on what you're hearing. Not what you wish you heard, or what you sort of heard, but what you're actually hearing from people. What they need, what their pain points are, what they're asking for without saying. What are they telling you?”

For more of Dr. Burns and her work check out...

Class Tech Tips on the web, X, Pinterest, and Instagram.

Sign up for the Class Tech Tips Newsletter

Listen to the Easy EdTech Podcast

Connect with Dr. Burns on LinkedIn.

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Our guests contribute to this podcast in their personal capacity. The views expressed in this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology or its employees (“AnitaB.org”). AnitaB.org is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of the information provided in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast series does not constitute legal or other professional advice or services.

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B The Way Forward Is…

Produced by Dominique Ferrari and Paige Hymson

Sound design and editing by Neil Innes and Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Associate Producer is Faith Krogulecki

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Riveter Studios and Frequency Machine

Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson for AnitaB.org

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell and Arielle Nissenblatt with Riveter Studios and Tink Media in partnership with Carolyn Schneller and Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

Liz Fong-Jones on Her Journey from Google Engineer to Activist to Author May 15, 2024

On this episode of “B The Way Forward,” host Brenda Darden Wilkerson explores what it means to be more than your job description. Our guest, Liz Fong-Jones is the perfect example of a talented tech employee who engages in workplace activism for employee rights while also excelling in her day job as an engineer.

Liz began a lot of her activism while she was a site reliability engineer at Google. As a trans woman, Liz discusses the importance of workplace inclusion and why she fights so hard for marginalized groups in the workplace. Liz offers listeners all sorts of helpful tips from finding success despite an untraditional education – Liz was a college dropout herself – to how to best garner support for your own petitions and activism at work. Liz is now Field CTO at the female-led software company Honeycomb.io.

“The fight is going to take various shapes over the next several years. But I think intersectionality is the most important thing that we can and should be doing. I think that means that we should reach out and build intersectional allyship, that we should think about people who sit at the intersections, who sit at those margins, right? If someone is a transgender person and they are a person of color, especially if they're black, that dramatically increases the likelihood that they are going to become the victim of violence that is transphobic. I think the number one power that we have right now is we need to think about protecting people's privacy.”

For more on Liz and her work, check out...

Linkedin - /efong

Twitter - @honeycombio

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Our guests contribute to this podcast in their personal capacity. The views expressed in this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology or its employees (“AnitaB.org”). AnitaB.org is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of the information provided in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast series does not constitute legal or other professional advice or services.

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B The Way Forward Is…

Produced by Dominique Ferrari and Paige Hymson

Sound design and editing by Neil Innes and Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Associate Producer is Faith Krogulecki

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Riveter Studios and Frequency Machine

Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson for AnitaB.org

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell and Arielle Nissenblatt with Riveter Studios and Tink Media in partnership with Carolyn Schneller and Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

Funding Dreams: How Ruthe Farmer’s Last Mile Education Fund Helps Tech Students in Need May 01, 2024

On this episode of “B The Way Forward,” host Brenda Darden Wilkerson is joined by Ruthe Farmer, activist and policymaker, who has trailblazed a path toward increasing diversity, building inclusion, and prioritizing gender equity in technology. In Ruthe’s illustrious career, she has leveraged successful and current infrastructures to promote girls’ and womens’ participation in these fields. Ruthe continues to be a champion in this space - ushering in, and supporting, a new wave of women in technology. Ruthe’s advocacy work led her to found “The Last Mile Education Fund”, a gap-fund organization that invests in individuals already committed to STEM careers, by supporting them when unconventional circumstances challenge them otherwise.

Ruthe shares the true battles women face while in higher education today - and spoiler alert, most of the time it isn’t in the classroom! The intimate stories of the lives touched by the Last Mile Education Fund help inform educational institutions, employers, and recruiters, about the daily challenges students are faced with before entering the professional workforce. With the average grant request being $956, it reveals how a little in someone’s world can be so impactful in another’s. Brenda and Ruthe’s conversation offers a broader perspective on how we can encourage young technologists to continue on their successful paths, starting with empathy and understanding.

“Just last week we got a donation from a grantee and she said, ‘I'm happy to be now a donor instead of a grantee, please pay it forward on my behalf,’ and it really is a virtuous circle that is not only going to bring up the diversity of computing, but increase economic mobility for underrepresented people, but it's also incubating givers. And putting people into the ecosystem who are just the kind of people who are grateful and they want to pay it forward and pull the others up behind them.”

For more about Ruthe and the work of The Last Mile Education Fund, check out...

LinkedIn - /RutheF & /lastmilefund

Facebook - /LastMileFund

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Our guests contribute to this podcast in their personal capacity. The views expressed in this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology or its employees (“AnitaB.org”). AnitaB.org is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of the information provided in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast series does not constitute legal or other professional advice or services.

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B The Way Forward Is…

Produced by Dominique Ferrari and Paige Hymson

Sound design and editing by Neil Innes and Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Associate Producer is Faith Krogulecki

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Riveter Studios and Frequency Machine

Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson for AnitaB.org

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell and Arielle Nissenblatt with Riveter Studios and Tink Media in partnership with Carolyn Schneller and Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

Challenging the Norms: How Diversability’s Tiffany Yu Aims for an Accessibility-First Culture for 1 Billion People Apr 17, 2024

This episode of “B The Way Forward” brings the ideas of intersectional inclusivity and visibility to the forefront. Host Brenda Darden Wilkerson speaks with disability rights advocate, Tiffany Yu, about moving disability inclusion forward and why finding community is so important. Did you know that there are an estimated one billion people with disabilities worldwide? This statistic drives Tiffany’s important work, particularly as the CEO and Founder of her company, Diversability.

In this episode, you’ll hear some of Tiffany’s own personal experiences, including where her story began at the age of 9 when she became disabled as a result of a car accident that took her father’s life. Now, she’s become a powerful voice and trailblazer for the disability community and is author of her new book, “The Anti-Ableist Manifesto: Smashing Stereotypes, Forging Change, and Building a Disability-Inclusive World.” Brenda and Tiffany discuss why inclusion needs to be intentional and how representation in books and movies is a powerful tool for change – they even talk about Barbie! Tiffany’s powerful message will leave our listeners feeling inspired and confident to challenge the norms and make a change.

"One of the things we talk about in the disability community is we don't like being seen as inspiring just because we exist as disabled people. But, if I can inspire you to take action and change the trajectory of your career to fight for disability equity, I’m all about that type of inspiration."

For more about Tiffany and her work, check out...

Tiffany's Website - tiffanyyu.com

Facebook - /imtiffanyyu

X: @imtiffanyyu

Instagram - @imtiffanyyu

TikTok - @imtiffanyyu

LinkedIn - /tiffanyayu

Threads - @imtiffanyyu

Clubhouse - @imtiffanyyu

And for more about Diversability, check out...

On the web - mydiversability.com

Facebook - /diversability

Twitter - @diversability

Instagram - @diversability

TikTok - @diversability

LinkedIn - /diversabilitycommmunity

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Our guests contribute to this podcast in their personal capacity. The views expressed in this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology or its employees (“AnitaB.org”). AnitaB.org is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of the information provided in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast series does not constitute legal or other professional advice or services.

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B The Way Forward Is…

Produced by Dominique Ferrari and Paige Hymson

Sound design and editing by Neil Innes and Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Associate Producer is Faith Krogulecki

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Riveter Studios and Frequency Machine

Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson for AnitaB.org

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell and Arielle Nissenblatt with Riveter Studios and Tink Media in partnership with Carolyn Schneller and Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

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How Propel’s Jimmy Chen is Empowering Health for 40 million Americans Apr 03, 2024

On this episode of “B The Way Forward,” host Brenda Darden Wilkerson is joined by Jimmy Chen, founder and CEO at Propel, a tech company whose app was created to help low-income individuals and their families manage government benefits. Jimmy’s work empowers vulnerable individuals, particularly those who rely on food stamps, to improve their financial health. Brenda and Jimmy discuss the biases in tech entrepreneurship, particularly around how founders and investors tend to build technology that solves problems from their personal experiences. Without diversity in tech entrepreneurship and funding common problems for minoritized people are often overlooked.

We hear Jimmy’s story and how he found a gap in technology and why he felt drawn to help solve meaningful financial problems that serve people using the safety net. Jimmy saw an opportunity: Around 40 million people in the U.S. who receive food stamp benefits on an EBT debit card have to constantly call a 1-800 number to find out their balance. So, his company Propel built the country's first mobile banking app for the EBT card. Jimmy talks to Brenda about what it means to create impact and how he’s been working to really listen to the people his product is serving. Jimmy also opens up about being a male ally in the tech industry and the goals he has for Propel to continue building a product that reflects the demographics of the people they are serving.

“I really think of respect as a core foundational design element to how we think about our relationship with people who use our products and what we are trying to do alongside them. I think it's part of the same conversation of, look, we're not building for people, we're building with people in many cases because we respect that they know what's best for themselves.”

For more from Jimmy and Propel, check out...

X -@jimmychen and @joinproviders

Instagram - @providersapp

Facebook - /ProvidersApp

LinkedIn - /propel-inc, and /jimmychen1

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B The Way Forward Is…

Produced by Dominique Ferrari and Paige Hymson

Sound design and editing by Neil Innes and Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Associate Producer is Faith Krogulecki

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Riveter Studios and Frequency Machine

Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson for AnitaB.org

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell and Arielle Nissenblatt with Riveter Studios and Tink Media in partnership with Carolyn Schneller and Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

Nate Shalev's Mission for Inclusivity: Small Changes Make Big Impact Mar 20, 2024

On this episode of “B The Way Forward,” host Brenda Darden Wilkerson talks with Nate Shalev, whose inspiring social impact work emphasizes the importance of inclusion in the workplace. As both a trans and neurodivergent individual, Nate founded Revel Impact, a consultancy that focuses on creating workplaces where all people can thrive. Nate’s work involves everything from building frameworks for more inclusive environments to recommending workplace policies for businesses and executives. Brenda and Nate discuss the best types of language to use for inclusivity, how to be an ally to your peers and why small changes can have a big impact. Nate, who was named a LinkedIn Top Voice, also explores the importance of storytelling and why they use social platforms like LinkedIn to open up and tell personal stories to a large audience.

“Often when I speak to companies they're talking about, ‘Well, how do we account for everyone? If everyone is so different and everyone has unique experiences, what does that mean?’ And so, I think if you have this framework and you can practice that muscle of being intentional, of being able to create those structures around it, then you'll be able to approach each situation, even though each person is unique. If you already have that framework, that foundation, then you'll be much, much better set up for success.”

For more of Nate and their work check out...

LinkedIn - /nshalev

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Our guests contribute to this podcast in their personal capacity. The views expressed in this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology or its employees (“AnitaB.org”). AnitaB.org is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of the information provided in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast series does not constitute legal or other professional advice or services.

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B The Way Forward Is…

Produced by Dominique Ferrari and Paige Hymson

Sound design and editing by Neil Innes and Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Associate Producer is Faith Krogulecki

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Riveter Studios and Frequency Machine

Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson for AnitaB.org

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell and Arielle Nissenblatt with Riveter Studios and Tink Media in partnership with Carolyn Schneller and Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

Demystifying Tech Careers: How to Find Your Path Toward Tech with Hosanna Hali Mar 06, 2024

This episode of “B The Way Forward,” is all about advice as host Brenda Darden Wilkerson explores the many paths and entry points into the tech industry. Our guest, Hosanna Hali aka the Fairy Tech Mother, has been working to demystify the tech space by offering tips and tricks across her social media channels. As a young woman in tech who spent 5 years working at Microsoft, Hosanna leads by example and uses her voice to empower other young people looking to pursue careers in technology.

This thoughtful conversation pushes us to think about the career paths we choose and encourages everyone to continue toward the goals they wish to pursue in tech. Brenda and Hosanna discuss the tricky feelings around imposter syndrome and why you belong in the tech space despite what external voices might be telling you. Plus, Hosanna offers unique advice to our listeners like how to stand out from the crowd, why it’s important to understand your individual value and why your degree doesn’t have to define you. She also explains why she founded her very own platform called “The Tech Cornr,” where she posts video and content to help others learn more about careers in tech.

"Yes, the degree that you have will make a real difference in some of the jobs that you apply for, but don't let that stop you. Your career doesn't start and end by your degree, it's just one part of it."

For more of Hosanna Hali and her work check out...

Instagram - @thetechcornr

TikTok - @thetechcornr

YouTube - @thetechcornr9187

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Our guests contribute to this podcast in their personal capacity. The views expressed in this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology or its employees (“AnitaB.org”). AnitaB.org is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of the information provided in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast series does not constitute legal or other professional advice or services.

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B The Way Forward Is…

Produced by Dominique Ferrari and Paige Hymson

Sound design and editing by Neil Innes and Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Associate Producer is Faith Krogulecki

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Riveter Studios and Frequency Machine

Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson for AnitaB.org

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell and Arielle Nissenblatt with Riveter Studios and Tink Media in partnership with Carolyn Schneller and Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

How UNICEF’s Venture Fund Lead Sunita Grote Improves Children’s Lives with Emerging Technologies Feb 21, 2024

On this episode of “B The Way Forward,” host Brenda Darden Wilkerson takes listeners through a unique and mission-driven type of venture capitalism. Our guest Sunita Grote leads UNICEF's Venture Fund which provides seed funding to early-stage ventures in emerging markets. Through her work at UNICEF, Sunita builds a portfolio of emerging technologies that help children around the world. Brenda and Sunita talk about what types of technologies the Venture Fund is investing in from AI and machine learning to blockchain, cryptocurrency and drones.

Sunita shows us how these investments drive impact for example: Education solutions that make it easier for children to consume math; A medical records platform that has helped boost child vaccination rates by over 8%; And even blockchain cash and voucher systems that improve the speed and transparency which cash assistance is delivered to families in need. They also talk about the importance of changing power dynamics by being thoughtful about which solutions are selected and investing in technology founded by women. Together, Brenda and Sunita dive into the importance of mission-driven venture funding and what we can look forward to from Sunita and UNICEF in the future.

“How we do things when it comes to technology and innovation, to me, is as important as the ‘what’ we do. It's not really okay to compromise on the ‘how’ for the sake of the next big technology solution. That’s not really going to get us to changing some of those fundamental imbalances that we’re seeing and those injustices that we're seeing.”

To find out more about UNICEF's Office of Innovation and their work check out...

LinkedIn - /unicef-innovation

X - @UNICEFinnovate

Instagram - @unicefinnovate

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Our guests contribute to this podcast in their personal capacity. The views expressed in this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology or its employees (“AnitaB.org”). AnitaB.org is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of the information provided in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast series does not constitute legal or other professional advice or services.

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B The Way Forward Is…

Produced by Dominique Ferrari and Paige Hymson

Sound design and editing by Neil Innes and Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Associate Producer is Faith Krogulecki

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Riveter Studios and Frequency Machine

Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson for AnitaB.org

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell and Arielle Nissenblatt with Riveter Studios and Tink Media in partnership with Carolyn Schneller and Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

Telling an Inclusive Story: How Black Girls Code CEO Cristina Jones is Helping Girls Launch into Tech Feb 06, 2024

In this episode of B The Way Forward, host Brenda Darden Wilkerson talks with CEO of Black Girls Code, Cristina Jones about her work to solve the lack of representation of Black women in technology. Only 2% of the STEM workforce are Black women, and Cristina is hoping to change that. She tells our listeners how she plans to achieve the mission of Black Girls Code, which is to launch 1 million girls into technology by 2040. Her unique perspective as a former Hollywood executive makes her a powerful new force in the tech space, telling a more inclusive story that encourages black girls to join the tech industry.

Brenda and Cristina dive into terminology and tech talk and why language in the industry is so important for young girls to feel empowered and welcome into the space. Cristina’s breadth of advice is endless. You’ll learn why it’s crucial to know and articulate your value proposition and the strengths you have to offer in the workforce.

“The hardest notion to break is a preconceived notion, especially the ones that are made about yourself.”

For more of Cristina Jones and her work check out...

Instagram - @blackgirlscode

LinkedIn - /Black-Girls-Code

Facebook - /BlackGirlsCodeOrg

X - @BlackGirlsCode

TikTok - /@blackgirlscode

YouTube - /BlackGirlsCode

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Our guests contribute to this podcast in their personal capacity. The views expressed in this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology or its employees (“AnitaB.org”). AnitaB.org is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of the information provided in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast series does not constitute legal or other professional advice or services.

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B The Way Forward Is…

Produced by Dominique Ferrari and Paige Hymson

Sound design and editing by Neil Innes and Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Associate Producer is Faith Krogulecki

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Riveter Studios and Frequency Machine

Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson for AnitaB.org

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell and Arielle Nissenblatt with Riveter Studios and Tink Media in partnership with Carolyn Schneller and Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

Building Black Tech Futures with Dr. Fallon Wilson Jan 24, 2024

Our guest on today’s episode of “B The Way Forward” is dreaming of a black tech future that makes digital infrastructure more inclusive for everybody. Host Brenda Darden Wilkerson talks with Vice President of Policy at the Multicultural Media and Telecommunication Internet Council (MMTC) and creator of #BlackTechFutures Research Institute, Dr. Fallon Wilson, about ways to close the digital divide. Together, they address the disparities in Internet access across black communities and why Fallon is fighting for actionable change like getting computers in the hands of all school children and creating better access for people to do remote work at home. You’ll hear some really shocking facts around who has Internet access – and who doesn’t– while Brenda and Fallon talk through some major misconceptions around technology gaps. Plus, we learn why Fallon is sick and tired of the conversation around Artificial Intelligence and why she’s working to humanize an index that measures disparities in cities.

“When we think about data science or data scientists, I always think about Ida B. Wells and her ability to develop a type of data set to talk about lynching and lynching of Black bodies, and what does that look like, and what are the policy implications for it? I think Black people have always, I think with every new type of tool to tell story, or a new type of technology to tell narrative, we have always been at the forefront of crafting our story and trying to show this is injustice.”

For more of Dr. Fallon Wilson and her work check out...

X - @SistahWilson | @mmtconline | @BlackChurchesDE

Instagram - @mmtconline | @blackchurches4digitalequity

Facebook - /mmtconline | /blackchurches4digitalequity

Linkedin - /fallonwilson | /mmtconline

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At AnitaB.org, we envision a future where the people who imagine and build technology mirror the people and societies for whom they build it. Find out more about how we support women, non-binary individuals, and other underrepresented groups in computing, as well as the organizations that employ them and the academic institutions training the next generations.

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Our guests contribute to this podcast in their personal capacity. The views expressed in this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology or its employees (“AnitaB.org”). AnitaB.org is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of the information provided in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast series does not constitute legal or other professional advice or services.

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B The Way Forward Is…

Produced by Dominique Ferrari and Paige Hymson

Sound design and editing by Neil Innes and Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Associate Producer is Faith Krogulecki

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Riveter Studios and Frequency Machine

Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson for AnitaB.org

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell and Arielle Nissenblatt with Riveter Studios and Tink Media in partnership with Carolyn Schneller and Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

The Diversity Paradox: Building an Inclusive Environment with Bo Young Lee Jan 10, 2024

In this episode of "B The Way Forward," recorded live at Grace Hopper Celebration 2023, host Brenda Darden Wilkerson sits down with her friend and colleague, Bo Young Lee, a transformative and inspirational voice in Diversity, Equity and Inclusion. Bo is currently serving as President of Advisory and Interim Chief Impact Officer at AnitaB.org and previously served as Uber’s first Chief Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Officer. Brenda and Bo, both dedicated to empowering women and underrepresented voices, get down to the realities surrounding diversity and inclusion in the workplace and how we can break down the myths about what a diverse culture really means. Bo describes how her upbringing and education helped shape her journey in the DEI space. She quickly realized that she had to reach outside of the cookie-cutter processes for inclusion and explore how each person’s own experiences and backgrounds impact the work that we all do. This eye-opening conversation will not only change the way you view and interact with others, but it’ll challenge you to look within yourself and acknowledge and improve the way you respond to your own biases and assumptions.

“You don’t really create true diversity if you don’t have inclusion first. Because if you have a very diverse organization but it's not very inclusive, you actually have just basically compliance. You have quotas. That kind of compliance, quota-oriented way to diversifying an organization, that’s actually what breeds the backlash.”

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At AnitaB.org, we envision a future where the people who imagine and build technology mirror the people and societies for whom they build it. Find out more about how we support women, non-binary individuals, and other underrepresented groups in computing, as well as the organizations that employ them and the academic institutions training the next generations.

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Our guests contribute to this podcast in their personal capacity. The views expressed in this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology or its employees (“AnitaB.org”). AnitaB.org is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of the information provided in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast series does not constitute legal or other professional advice or services.

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B The Way Forward Is…

Produced by Dominique Ferrari and Paige Hymson

Sound design and editing by Neil Innes and Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Associate Producer is Faith Krogulecki

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Riveter Studios and Frequency Machine

Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson for AnitaB.org

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell and Arielle Nissenblatt with Riveter Studios and Tink Media in partnership with Carolyn Schneller and Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

Unmasking AI: Dr. Joy Buolamwini's Revolutionary Voice Dec 13, 2023

In this episode of “B The Way Forward,” host Brenda Darden Wilkerson is joined live, onstage by artificial intelligence expert Dr. Joy Buolamwini. There’s a reason why she was named one of TIME’s 100 Most Influential People in AI in 2023. Founder and Artist-in-Chief of the Algorithmic Justice League, Dr. Buolamwini questions the responsibility that comes with new technology and sounds the alarm about the implications for our future. Think about all the moments you are confronted with artificial intelligence at places like the airport or on your cell phones. Dr. Buolamwini, who recently authored “Unmasking AI: My Mission to Protect what is Human in a World of Machines, is an essential voice uncovering the existential risks that come with AI technology. She’ll show you how real-world data meant for efficiency and convenience can end up being used against you and how her work at the Algorithmic Justice League encourages everyone to speak up if something feels wrong.

“You think about training new models on synthetic data because maybe we started resisting and we said, no more scraping our data. Then you get even more skewed data sets going into the next generation. And I'm using images as one example, but you can think of this with text, you can think of it with a voice and so forth. So I think it's really important that one, we don't set our current status quo as the target, higher aspirations, right. But also, knowing that the systems as they exist are making things worse.”

For more of Dr. Dr. Buolamwini...

Newsletter - poetofcode.substack.com

X - @jovialjoy

LinkedIn - /buolamwini

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At AnitaB.org, we envision a future where the people who imagine and build technology mirror the people and societies for whom they build it. Find out more about how we support women, non-binary individuals, and other underrepresented groups in computing, as well as the organizations that employ them and the academic institutions training the next generations.

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Our guests contribute to this podcast in their personal capacity. The views expressed in this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology or its employees (“AnitaB.org”). AnitaB.org is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of the information provided in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast series does not constitute legal or other professional advice or services.

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B The Way Forward Is…

Produced by Dominique Ferrari and Paige Hymson

Sound design and editing by Neil Innes and Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Associate Producer is Faith Krogulecki

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Riveter Studios and Frequency Machine

Executive Produced by Arlan Hamilton for Arlan Was Here

Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson for AnitaB.org

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell and Arielle Nissenblatt with Riveter Studios and Tink Media in partnership with Carolyn Schneller and Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

Photo of Dr. Joy Buolamwini by Naima Green

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

Game On: Kellee Santiago's Blueprint for Inclusive Gaming Nov 29, 2023

Join host Brenda Darden Wilkerson for a “Game On” conversation with Kellee Santiago, a video game creative director, consultant and a builder of worlds. Kellee knows first-hand that games are more than entertainment – they are powerful engines for empathy. And in this episode, Kellee takes us through her remarkable journey from making indie games, at a time when women made up only 4-5% of the gaming workforce, to her successful work with industry giants like Google and Niantic. Together, Brenda and Kellee explore why games are such an important cornerstone of our culture and even our global conversation. This wide ranging discussion looks at the industry's evolution, ongoing challenges, and Kellee's approach to fostering inclusive and innovative game development. Plus, tune in for some myth-busting facts about gaming history, including the stories of some women who were actually at the forefront of building original games. So press play and learn the transformative power of gaming and how you can be part of creating empathetic, engaging worlds that resonate with diverse audiences.

“The immersion into a different world and a different perspective, is just such a cool capacity of games that I would love to continue to see more of, and more people engaging with.”

For more of Kellee Santiago check out...

LinkedIn - /kelleesantiago/

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Our guests contribute to this podcast in their personal capacity. The views expressed in this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology or its employees (“AnitaB.org”). AnitaB.org is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of the information provided in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast series does not constitute legal or other professional advice or services.

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B The Way Forward Is…

Produced by Dominique Ferrari and Paige Hymson

Sound design and editing by Neil Innes and Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Associate Producer is Faith Krogulecki

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Riveter Studios and Frequency Machine

Executive Produced by Arlan Hamilton for Arlan Was Here

Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson for AnitaB.org

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell and Arielle Nissenblatt with Riveter Studios and Tink Media in partnership with Carolyn Schneller and Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

Investing in Representation with Arlan Hamilton Nov 15, 2023

If you're not entirely sure what it takes to become an entrepreneur or how venture capital funds really work, you’re not alone. Arlan Hamilton has an inspiring story to share about how she built her very own venture capital fund while she was homeless. One statistic changed Arlan’s life: Less than 10% of venture funding goes to anyone who is not a straight white man in the U.S.

In this powerful conversation between host Brenda Darden Wilkerson and Arlan Hamilton, you’ll learn the same lessons Arlan did about becoming a good investor and how she built a venture capital fund that invests in underrepresented startup founders. Together, Brenda and Arlan dive into the feelings of being on the outside of an industry, why representation is key, and how even Mark Cuban ended up investing in Arlan’s startup.

“I was homeless for much of that beginning part of starting Backstage. And there were many, many days that I went hungry. But what I knew at the time was, there were a lot of things outside of my control everyday. And days went by very slowly back then. But one thing that people could not take from me, you couldn't take from me, no matter what happened, no matter what my bank account said, was information and knowledge that I had.”

For more of Arlan Hamilton check out...

Instagram: @arlanwashere

Linkedin: /arlanhamilton

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Our guests contribute to this podcast in their personal capacity. The views expressed in this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology or its employees (“AnitaB.org”). AnitaB.org is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of the information provided in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast series does not constitute legal or other professional advice or services.

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B The Way Forward Is…

Produced by Dominique Ferrari and Paige Hymson

Sound design and editing by Neil Innes and Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Associate Producer is Faith Krogulecki

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Riveter Studios and Frequency Machine

Executive Produced by Arlan Hamilton for Arlan Was Here

Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson for AnitaB.org

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell and Arielle Nissenblatt with Riveter Studios and Tink Media in partnership with Carolyn Schneller and Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

No More Silence in FemTech with Dr. Brittany Barreto Nov 01, 2023

Did you know that a meager 4% of pharma R&D targets women's health? Or that there are no published statistics on PMS-related work absences? These startling realities take center stage as host Brenda Darden-Wilkerson chats with FemTech pioneer Dr. Brittany Barreto, host of "The FemTech Focus Podcast.” Together, they define what FemTech actually means and how it impacts all of our lives. They dig deep into FemTech's overlooked goldmine and unpack its vital, often life-or-death implications. In a conversation full of incredible insights, urgency, and opportunity — Dr. Barreto delivers a powerful wake-up call about the price of avoiding those ‘uncomfortable’ conversations about women’s health and bodies and offers practical ways to be part of the coming FemTech revolution.

“This is really critical because, on the most extreme sense, women's lives are on the line. They're literally dying due to the lack of diagnostics or accurate treatments to help them.”

For more of Dr. Barreto check out...

Instagram - @drbrittanybarreto & @femtechfocus

X - @DrBrittB, @FemTech_Focus & @FHInsights

LinkedIn - @Brittany Barreto, Ph.D., @FemTech Focus & @FemHealth Insights

On the Web - drbrittanybarreto.com

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At AnitaB.org, we envision a future where the people who imagine and build technology mirror the people and societies for whom they build it. Find out more about how we support women, non-binary individuals, and other underrepresented groups in computing, as well as the organizations that employ them and the academic institutions training the next generations.

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Connect with AnitaB.org

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Facebook - /anitab.0rg

LinkedIn - /anitab-org

On the web - anitab.org

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Our guests contribute to this podcast in their personal capacity. The views expressed in this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology or its employees (“AnitaB.org”). AnitaB.org is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of the information provided in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast series does not constitute legal or other professional advice or services.

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B The Way Forward Is…

Produced by Dominique Ferrari and Paige Hymson

Sound design and editing by Neil Innes and Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Associate Producer is Faith Krogulecki

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Riveter Studios and Frequency Machine

Executive Produced by Arlan Hamilton for Arlan Was Here

Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson for AnitaB.org

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell and Arielle Nissenblatt with Riveter Studios and Tink Media in partnership with Carolyn Schneller and Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

Amplifying Narratives Through Art with Janelle Monáe Oct 18, 2023

In this episode of "B The Way Forward," recorded live at Grace Hopper Celebration 2023, host Brenda Darden Wilkerson talks with creative dynamo Janelle Monáe, exploring the intersection between art and technology. Janelle delves into her journey as a multi-hyphenate actress, musician, author, and activist and her poignant roles in films like “Moonlight”, “Glass Onion”, and “Hidden Figures”. And they discuss how art serves as a powerful tool for change, illuminating and amplifying the narratives of women, especially women of color, in tech. As Janelle reflects on forging her identity through her craft, she also shares some pearls of wisdom for those eager to find their own voice.

“Erasure of identities is just dangerous. It's just so dangerous to omit the truth. And we just need more truth tellers. And more people in the position of power fighting back against that... Using your power and your influence to combat ignorance is really going to be one of the ways forward.”

X -@JanelleMonae

Instagram - @janellemonae

Facebook - /janellemonae

YouTube - @janellemonae

On the web - jmonae.com

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At AnitaB.org, we envision a future where the people who imagine and build technology mirror the people and societies for whom they build it. Find out more about how we support women, non-binary individuals, and other underrepresented groups in computing, as well as the organizations that employ them and the academic institutions training the next generations.

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Connect with AnitaB.org

Instagram - @anitab_org

Facebook - /anitab.0rg

LinkedIn - /anitab-org

On the web - anitab.org

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Our guests contribute to this podcast in their personal capacity. The views expressed in this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology or its employees (“AnitaB.org”). AnitaB.org is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of the information provided in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast series does not constitute legal or other professional advice or services.

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B The Way Forward Is…

Produced by Dominique Ferrari and Paige Hymson

Sound design and editing by Neil Innes and Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Associate Producer is Faith Krogulecki

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Riveter Studios and Frequency Machine

Executive Produced by Arlan Hamilton for Arlan Was Here

Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson for AnitaB.org

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell and Arielle Nissenblatt with Riveter Studios and Tink Media in partnership with Carolyn Schneller and Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

Digital Defiance with Bridget Todd Sep 27, 2023

Join host Brenda Darden Wilkerson as she chats with Bridget Todd, the powerhouse behind the hit podcast "There are No Girls on the Internet" and a leading voice in the fight for digital inclusion. Together, they dissect the biases in tech and explore the industry's encroachment on our power and privacy in even the most intimate parts of our lives. Then, they go beyond the problems and dive into the paradigm shift needed if we are to change the status quo. Bridget pushes us all to reject the notion that tech is too complicated for most folks to understand or that its founders and leaders are too powerful to challenge. She isn’t having it, and neither are we.

“I think that we need to get to a place where tech leaders understand that even if I'm not an engineer, even if I'm not like a techie, I still am an expert in my experience. I use this technology every day and this technology uses me every day… I am the expert of my experience and I am allowed to take up space and say that these people have tricked us into thinking that they are smarter than us.”

For more of Bridget Todd check out…

The Are No Girls on the Internet

Unbossed Creative

On X

On Instagram

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At AnitaB.org, we envision a future where the people who imagine and build technology mirror the people and societies for whom they build it. Find out more about how we support women, non-binary individuals, and other underrepresented groups in computing, as well as the organizations that employ them and the academic institutions training the next generations.

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Connect with AnitaB.org

Instagram - @anitab_org

Facebook - /anitab.0rg

LinkedIn - /anitab-org

On the web - anitab.org

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Our guests contribute to this podcast in their personal capacity. The views expressed in this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology or its employees (“AnitaB.org”). AnitaB.org is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of the information provided in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast series does not constitute legal or other professional advice or services.

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B The Way Forward Is…

Produced by Dominique Ferrari and Paige Hymson

Sound design and editing by Neil Innes and Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Associate Producer is Faith Krogulecki

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Riveter Studios and Frequency Machine

Executive Produced by Arlan Hamilton for Arlan Was Here

Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson for AnitaB.org

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell and Arielle Nissenblatt with Riveter Studios and Tink Media in partnership with Carolyn Schneller and Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

Introducing B The Way Forward - A new series from AnitaB.org Sep 21, 2023

Tech shapes almost every aspect of our daily lives. And yet the tech we use has been controlled by a select few for far too long. Host Brenda Darden Wilkerson, President and CEO of AnitaB.org, challenges this disparity head-on. Yes, there are problems in tech, but this is a show about solutions. Dive deep, beyond the doom and gloom tech headlines, into deep, thoughtful dialogues with the pioneers and change-makers reshaping the space. Each episode of B The Way Forward is a call to action. Immerse yourself in stories of hope, learn about leaders driving change, and arm yourself with tools to be part of that change.

Let’s reclaim our digital agency, redefine tech, and be the way forward to a future where those who create tech truly mirror the faces of those who use it.

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At AnitaB.org, we envision a future where the people who imagine and build technology mirror the people and societies for whom they build it. Find out more about how we support women, non-binary individuals, and other underrepresented groups in computing, as well as the organizations that employ them and the academic institutions training the next generations.

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Connect with AnitaB.org

Instagram - @anitab_org

Facebook - /anitab.0rg

LinkedIn - /anitab-org

On the web - anitab.org

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B The Way Forward Is…

Produced by Dominique Ferrari and Paige Hymson

Sound design and editing by Neil Innes and Ryan Hammond

Mixing and mastering by Julian Kwasneski

Associate Producer is Faith Krogulecki

Executive Produced by Dominique Ferrari, Stacey Book, and Avi Glijansky for Riveter Studios and Frequency Machine

Executive Produced by Arlan Hamilton for Arlan Was Here

Executive Produced by Brenda Darden Wilkerson for AnitaB.org

Podcast Marketing from Lauren Passell and Arielle Nissenblatt with Riveter Studios and Tink Media in partnership with Carolyn Schneller and Coley Bouschet at AnitaB.org

Photo of Brenda Darden Wilkerson by Mandisa Media Productions

For more ways to be the way forward, visit AnitaB.org

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