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    alphalist.CTO Podcast – For CTOs and Technical Leaders

    This podcast features interviews of CTOs and other technical leadership figures and topics range from technology (AI, blockchain, cyber, DevOps, Web Architecture, etc.) to management (e.g. scaling, structuring teams, mentoring, technical recruiting, product etc.).
    Guests from leading tech companies share their best practices and knowledge.
    The goal is to support other CTOs on their journey through tech and engineering, inspire and allow a sneak-peek into other successful companies to understand how they think and act. Get awesome insights into the world‘s top tech companies, personalities with this podcast brought to you by Tobias Schlottke.

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    #108 - Monitoring as Code feat.Hannes Lenke // CEO & Co-founder @ Checkly Sep 30, 2024
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    How DevOps has Changed QA

    Keep an eye on the latest trends in this CTO podcast episode featuring Hannes Lenke (CEO and Co-founder of Checkly). Hannes shares insights from over a decade of shaping the testing and monitoring landscape. From AI-powered mobile testing to cloud-based browser testing to synthetic monitoring, he has seen it all. Listen to find out: 👀 What is "Monitoring as Code"? How does it differ from traditional observability? 🔄 Has DevOps changed QA forever? Is there still a place for dedicated QA teams in an automated world? 🚀 How did Checkly evolve into a PLG company with a sales team? ⚙️ How do they run customer code at scale across 21 global data centers?

    Listen here

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    Timestamps

    (00:00) – Introduction to Alphalist Podcast (02:05) – Meet Hannes Lenke (05:13) – Hiring the Right People (07:50) – Hannes’s Journey into Computing (12:30) – TestObject: AI for Mobile Testing in the Early 2010s (16:33) – Globalizing a Berlin-Based Business (21:01) – The Birth of Checkly and Monitoring as Code (23:00) – How DevOps Changed QA (30:52) – The Right Observability Stack for SaaS (37:39) – Cross-Functional Teams vs. Dedicated QA (43:10) – Challenges of Executing Customer Code at Scale (49:08) – How Teams are Arranged at Checkly (50:51) – PLG with Enterprise Sales (53:52) – Lessons Learned as a Second-Time Founder: Pace Yourself

    About Hannes Lenke

    Hannes is the co-founder of Checkly. former CEO and Founder of TestObject and General Manager EMEA Sauce Labs. Addicted to devops and passionate about all things tech.

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    QUOTE: "As a second-time founder, you always think it's so much easier to fall into a second business. I think it's not… the expectations are just larger."


    #107 - Sustainability Over Hypergrowth feat.Tuomas Artman // CTO @ Linear Sep 13, 2024
    Show notes

    Grow the business, not the headcount with insights from Tuomas Artman (CTO of Linear). Saying no to hypergrowth helped Linear succeed, but how did they do it? How did they build a high-quality product with a smaller team?

    Listen to find out:

    • How to achieve quality products without increasing headcount 🌱
    • Avoiding feature bloat: The pitfalls of customer-driven development ⚖️
    • Why you should build for longevity, not acquisition: The downsides of selling too early 🏛
    • Why they raised funds after initially planning to bootstrap 💰
    • Why Full-Stack Engineers are in 👍, and QA Teams are out 👎
    • Why Linear avoids automated UI tests 🚦
    • How a local-first synchronization engine ensures a smooth UX ⚙️

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    #106 - Meritocracy, Backend and Engineer-led Sales feat. Shyam Sankar // CTO @ Palantir Technologies Aug 30, 2024
    Show notes

    Diversity in Meritocracy Through Rebellion

    Discover new ways to do things with Shyam Sankar, CTO of Palantir, who is working to deprecate backend development using their experience with 150 independent dev teams running a collection of 5,000 microservices. Yet this podcast is more than that (although I was blown away by the demo)—expect great nuggets of wisdom on meritocracy, data, and of course, backend. Think of this podcast as a series of back-to-back nuggets of wisdom that not only help you make sense of what you've observed but also open your mind to emerging trends.

    Listen to find out

    • 👨‍🍳 How French Restaurants Inspired Engineer-led Sales
    • ⚖️ Finding Success in Contradicting Ideas
    • 🧑‍💻 The Two Types of Engineers: Artists 🎨 vs. Hackers 🔧
    • 🏗️ How he is working on deprecating backend development
    • 📊 Why data is only as good as the decisions it guides and actualizes
    • 📚 The Power of Ontologies
    • 🧩 Inductive vs. Deductive Reasoning
    • 🌈 Diversity in meritocracy through acts of rebellion 💥
    • ℹ️ Why you need to reduce information asymmetry +🤖 Like Analog to Digital: How LLMs will change things

    TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Introduction to Alphalist Podcast 00:59 Meet Shyam Sankar, CTO of Palantir 01:59 Early Days at Palantir 03:12 Impact of Florida 'Space Coast' Childhood 04:26 Power of Software 05:24 Move to LLMs: Like Analog to Digital 07:10 A Day in the Life of an In-The-Trenches CTO 08:37 Engineers in Product and Sales 09:46 Value of Contradiction 11:28 Two Types of Engineers: Artists and Hackers 12:10 Power Law: Solving the Problems of the Most Futuristic Clients 13:37 Building the Future of Backend Development 14:55 No Greenfield Enterprise Tech: Need to Make Sure It Works with Old Tech 16:13 Companies as Decision Chains and Why Data Is the New Snake Oil 17:21 Ontology 21:17 Inductive Over Deductive Problem Solving 21:56 Deprecating Backend Development 24:36 Will We Need IDEs in the Future? 26:07 Tackling the Application Layer with Clean Abstractions 26:43 Leveraging LLMs for Enterprise Use Cases 27:40 How to Avoid Being a "Jack of All Trades but Master of None" 29:12 Focus on Your Strengths 31:50 Hierarchies: Flexibility Over Flatness 32:28 The Qualitative Reward of Meritocracy 33:19 Diversity, Meritocracy, and Rebellion 34:42 How a Flat Hierarchy Helps the Creative Process 36:52 Reduce Information Asymmetry 38:08 Empower Your Team and Get Out of Their Way 41:47 Don't Settle for the Comfortable Playbook - Innovate 43:34 Reindustrialization and Software-Defined Production 44:37 Why He Is Involved as an IC on Some Projects 45:36 Focus on Your Strengths

    QUOTES: “Focus on your strengths, go figure out what your superpowers are. Don't worry about the rest of the world, right? It's really that some of the value comes from the internal creative process and knowing who you are, not from being what you think the world needs you to be.” - Shyam Sankar, CTO of Palantir

    “Your position of maximum growth is also likely a position of maximum pain. Like, no one is telling you this is going to be a pleasant journey, but it is going to be rewarding.” -- Shyam Sankar, CTO of Palantir


    #105 - Trust & Accountability in Remote Teams feat. Sabrina Farmer // CTO @ GitLab Aug 16, 2024
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    AI-driven DevSecOps

    Find out how to build trust and accountability in a fully remote team in this CTO podcast featuring Sabrina Farmer, CTO @ GitLab. You will also hear how Sabrina draws on her experience in AI, DevSecOps, and her 19 years at Google to rethink the developer experience. Listen to find out: How Gitlab's CEO Challenge encourages developers to innovate and automate away historic challenges (e.g. Log4js) Why DevOps is just problem-solving 🕵️‍♀️ at all levels of the stack How to use AI to create teaching moments 💡 in the developer workflow How GitLab onboards quicker with detailed documentation📝 (no tribal knowledge)

    Listen here

    Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction to the Alphalist Podcast (00:43) Meet Sabrina Farmer: GitLab's CTO (02:33) Remote Work at GitLab (03:39) Trust and Accountability at GitLab (Part 1) (04:49) ReadMe at GitLab (06:04) Problem Solving and Computer Science (09:40) Having an Impact: The Appeal of DevTools (11:27) Helping People Go Beyond Their Limits (13:03) AI Strategy (16:25) Monolith vs. Microservices? (18:19) What is DevSecOps (21:50) Creating Teaching Moments for Developers Using AI (25:05) Future of Security in the Next 5 Years (25:30) More Data Privacy Aware (27:44) GitLab's CEO Challenge: Encourage Developers to Innovate and Automate Away Historic Challenges Like Log4js (31:43) Choosing AI Models (33:35) Getting Developer Buy-In with AI (37:29) Use AI to Free You Up So You Can Think Strategically (37:48) Use AI Responsibly - Do Due Diligence (39:59) Trust and Accountability at GitLab (Part 2) (44:02) Satya Nadella as Inspiration


    #104 - End-to-End Technical Independence feat. Alexander Matthey // CTO @ Adyen Aug 01, 2024
    Show notes

    Independent. Direct. Security First

    Discover the benefits of end-to-end technical independence with Alexander Matthey, CTO of Adyen. Learn why Adyen cherishes its in-house strategy as Alexander shares how Adyen’s extreme technical independence (no third-party vendors) enables efficiency in everything from libraries to security.

    Listen to find out:

    • Security First: How Adyen makes security a priority for everyone. 🔒
    • Pick Up the Phone📞: How direct communication makes them more efficient.
    • How Adyen’s long-term vision drives innovation. 🚀
    • How Conway’s Law is applied to their team structure

    Listen here

    Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction to the Alphalist Podcast (00:44) Meet Alexander Matthey, CTO of Adyen (01:34) Adyen's Founding and Growth (02:47) Alex's Nerd Journey (05:42) Transition from Coding to Leadership (07:28) How GenAI is changing coding (10:52) Life in the FinTech space (15:04) How Adyen's Long-Term Vision Drives Innovation (18:12) End-to-End Independence. No third-party vendors. (20:39) Product Discovery - Start with Customer (22:49) How industry has changed (23:43) Adyen Tech Strategy: Have set languages/tools etc. (27:24) Adyen Tech Stack (27:50) Adyen's Organisational Structure & Conway's Law (28:28) -Biggest Concentration on Payments (29:35) -Teams powering Financial Services (30:39) -Data and Platform Engineering (31:48) Transitioning to Smaller Teams (33:06) Starting from Scratch: Building a Payment System not in 100% private cloud (35:33) The Adyen Formula: Direct Communication via Phone (42:13) Security First: Internal Responsibility (46:16) Tools and Monitoring for Security (49:57) Security if start from scratch (54:07) Advice to My Younger Self


    #103 - David Cramer // Co-Founder + CPO @ Sentry Jul 18, 2024
    Show notes

    DevTool 101 and evolving role of co-founder

    Explore the evolution of both a product and the role of its co-founder in this CTO podcast featuring David Cramer (co-founder + CPO @ Sentry). You will discover the pros and cons of each stage in Sentry's journey (open source -> bootstrap -> VC) and why David's role evolved (CEO -> CTO -> CPO).

    Listen to find out

    • 🔄 Why his role has evolved: CEO -> CTO -> CPO
    • 🧑‍💻 DevTool Marketing 101: Inspiration, Attention, and Conversation
    • 💰 How to monetize open source
    • 🎨 How good branding and design can make an "unsexy" product cool
    • 💳 The power of the self-serve model and its impact on sales
    • 👥 Solopreneur vs. small team with friends
    • ⚖️ Does work-life balance exist in tech?

    Listen here

    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Introduction to the alphalist Podcast (01:59) Early Days and Bootstrapping (04:40) Opportunities in the Wild West Days of the Internet (05:48) Building and Learning from Projects (08:55) Branding, Design, and how to make an "unsexy" product cool (12:44) Monetizing an Open Source Product (15:49) Why they started Pessimistic (17:41) Never Change a Thing (18:03) Self-Serve Model: Efficiency and Revenue (20:01) Lean, Efficient Teams (21:26) Work with Friends, not Solo (23:22) Evolving Role: CEO → CTO → CPO (25:14) Burnout, Career Highs, and Lows (27:47) What He is Up to These Days at Sentry (28:59) Why He Doesn't Code at Sentry Much Anymore (30:11) Centering Budget Conversations Around Idea Validation (31:26) Developer Marketing Strategies (32:39) 1. Build Personal Brand as Techie (33:07) 2. Continue with Brand Awareness (34:24) 3. Be Inspired by Best Brands (Even Unrelated), Not Boring Competitors (35:12) Standing Out, Getting Attention: Sentry's First Billboard (37:38) Builder, Not Technologist (40:44) "Academics" and High Demand Skills of the Future (45:27) Work-Life Balance Insights (51:18) Advice to Younger Self


    #102 - Platform Engineering feat. Boyan Dimitrov // CTO @ SIXT Jul 04, 2024
    Show notes

    Platform Engineering: Modularised, Standardised and Automated.

    Discover how to leverage platform engineering 🏗️ for convenience, standardization, automation, and reduced cloud costs in this CTO podcast featuring Boyan Dimitrov (CTO @ SIXT). SIXT is a leading global mobility provider serving customers in over 100 countries worldwide. With 800 tech employees globally, they have spent the past eight years standardizing and modularizing their tech stack to achieve unparalleled scalability. Listen to find out:

    • How to apply the 80:20 rule to Platform ⚖️
    • How to automate 🔄infrastructure without tickets 🎟️
    • How to reduce cloud costs ☁️with Platform Engineering
    • How to evaluate ⚖️ an IDP
    • Why they standardize hosting (cloud and database) 🗄️
    • Open Souce vs. Proprietary - Build vs. Buy

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    Timestamps:

    (1:16) Intro (1:21) Introduction to the Alphalist Podcast (1:39) Meet Boyan Dimitrov: CTO of SIXT (2:32) Boyan’s Nerd Journey Journey in Tech (8:42) SIXT’s Tech Stack: From Legacy to Modern (12:21) Microservice vs. Monolith vs. Midsized System (15:30) Platform Engineering (17:41) Platform Mindset (18:18) Modularisation, 80:20 rule and bets on tech trends (19:53) Example: DevOps (23:43) Automations that set up projects (26:40) Size of Platform Team (28:46) Open Source Build or buy (30:28) How to Manage Cloud Costs (31:19) Cost Savings of Cloud Native (31:59) Link Cost To Execution (32:36) Using Platform to abstract tech and allow engineers to focus on customers (36:12) Automating infrastructure - without tickets (38:26) Using Crossplane (39:56) Standardising Cloud Services (40:15) Standardising Database (42:25) Evaluating Proprietary Platforms for IDP (44:25) Optimizing Cloud Costs and Performance (45:20) Constantly improving IDP with inspiration (46:48) Leveraging AI for Development - in a standardised way (47:48) Fast Set Up for Internal Customers (49:41) Internal Application -Supporting the Back Office with AI and Low-Code (52:16) What is next for their IDP and Platform Engineering (52:59) Cool things Sixt is working on (56:33) Tooling for Company Communications (59:06) "Guilds": Creating Communities to Prevent Silos (1:02:28) Balancing Business and Technology (1:04:11) Focus Time (1:06:39) Time Machine: Message to Younger Self

    About Boyan

    Boyan Dimitrov is Chief Technology Officer (CTO) of SIXT, responsible for the company’s tech vision and strategy. He oversees the SIXT Engineering Hubs in Munich, Bangalore, Kiev, and Lisbon.Prior to joining SIXT in 2015, Boyan had a long career in the startup ecosystems in the UK and Bulgaria. In his last position, he led the platform teams at Hailo in London, where he worked on a global microservices platform in the mobility space. With over 15 years of experience in cloud and distributed systems, Boyan is a frequent speaker at tech conferences around the world. He holds a bachelor’s degree in network technologies and an MSc degree in IT project management from Aston University in Birmingham.

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    #101 - AI Revolution Roundtable feat. Jonas Andruilis (Aleph Alpha), Rasmus Rothe (Merantix) & Johannes Schaback (SumUp) May 16, 2024
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    Transformative AI, Build/Buy AI, Business Opportunities and more

    Get ready for the AI industrial revolution 🦸 in this CTO podcast episode featuring a roundtable of AI AllStars! So much is happening in AI, and you want to be part of it - that is why we asked Jonas Andrulis (Founder and CEO of Aleph Alpha), Rasmus Rothe (Co-founder of Merantix and its AI Campus) and Johannes Schaback (CTO of SumUp) to share with us a broad overview of what CTOs need to know about upcoming AI revolution. Turns out, we aren’t waiting for AGI - we are working on Transformative AI which is in reach for us all. Ready to transform lives with AI? Listen to find out:

    • ~~AGI~~ Transformative AI by 2030 🤖
    • Why your AI strategy (USP💎) matters more than model choice
    • How to balance AI R&D 🎓with Product 💥and Enterprise Sales 💸
    • AI Models: Build⚒️/Buy🛒/Pivot 🧭
    • What are emerging opportunities in AI? (Spoiler: B2B SaaS especially in manufacturing 🏭)
    • How to champion AI 🦸 in your company
    • Loonshots🚀: how to cultivate innovation
    • + Hack to attract 🧲 AI talent to non-tech hubs

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    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Welcome (03:39) Meet the AI All Stars (04:31) AGI VS. TRANSFORMATIVE AI (05:28) What to expect in Transformative AI before 2030 (05:53) Agents and Scaling Limits of LLMs (07:07) The Joy of Unsupervised Learning (09:33) The Growing Pains of All AI Applications (10:38) Move to Smaller Models (11:13) RAG Combined with Proprietary Data (12:11) THE ROLE OF TRAINING DATA (14:06) Dreamer Model Architecture (15:25) Synthetic Data (16:49) Where foundational models excel (18:00) AI Sovereignty and Build/Buy/Pivot (20:18) AI Strategy (USP) is more important than model choice (20:29) Example: Detecting contradictory statements using explainable AI with positive and negative sources (22:53) Risk of Vendor Lock-In and Data Breach (25:23) Why companies are pursuing Multicloud in fear of being 'milked' (26:25) BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES IN AI (26:25) 1. Customising Models (28:59) 2. Vertical AI business for industry-specific solutions (30:37) Message for B2B SaaS (31:36) The New Pricing Paradigm Created by AI Products (32:01) Attracting AI Talent (33:38) Investors as Partners First (35:14) Keeping one's ego in check as CEO (36:49) Rasmus's 5-year plan (37:51) What is the Merantix AI Campus (39:31) Hiring The Right Fit AI Researchers (41:22) Balancing AI R&D + Product + Enterprise Sales (42:35) Pivoting an AI-Driven Product (46:10) LOONSHOT: CULTIVATING INNOVATION (46:45) The Challenge of a Loonshot Team on Company Culture (50:18) Loonshot: Can ideas come when isolated from customers? (50:51) Pitching to the Innovation Board at Aleph Alpha (51:39) COMPANY BUYIN: Guiding Companies Through AI Transformation (55:10) How can CTOs get the rest of the company board AI (56:31) Encourage people to try things out (56:57) The Role of the In-House Champion for AI (57:35) 3 Levels AI Company Maturity (58:47) Position your Team to Lead the Next Industrial Revolution (59:28) Bottom Up and Top Down

    About our Guests#

    Jonas Andrulis

    Jonas Andrulis is founder and CEO of the German startup Aleph Alpha, with which he has set the German deep-tech funding record since its founding in 2019. He completed his industrial engineering studies at KIT in Karlsruhe, Germany, with a focus on artificial intelligence and modeling. As a serial entrepreneur, prior to Aleph Alpha, he first founded an AI software company for planning and optimization of complex logistics problems, then for human-in-the-loop training and validation of deep learning algorithms for human-machine interactions. As of 2016, he was at Apple leading AI research in the Special Projects Group. With Aleph Alpha, Jonas aims to build an independent European alternative for the next generation of artificial intelligence, following the example of OpenAI and DeepMind.

    Rasmus Rothe

    Dr. Rasmus Rothe is the co-founder and CTO of Merantix, the leading AI group in Europe. He serves as a General Partner of Merantix's venture arm, which builds and invests in AI companies. Merantix also operates an AI solutions business, Merantix Momentum, and oversees the largest AI ecosystem in Europe, including the AI Campus in Berlin and AI House Davos at the World Economic Forum. Rasmus received his Ph.D from ETH Zurich and is a renowned deep learning researcher. He serves as a founding board member of the German AI Association.

    Johannes Schaback

    Johannes Schaback is an accomplished entrepreneur and technology executive with extensive experience in the Berlin tech scene. He earned a degree in Computer Science from the Technical University of Berlin and Shanghai Jiao Tong University before joining Rocket Internet as a Software Engineer in 2008. Schaback co-founded LadenZeile.de in 2009, utilizing AI extensively to build the visual eCommerce platform, which was acquired by Axel Springer in 2011. He became a business angel in 2015, and in 2018, joined the management board of online furniture store, home24. Currently, Schaback is the Chief Technology Officer of SumUp, a global financial technology company, leading the development of their cutting-edge payment processing solutions.

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    #100 - Intuition over 'Data Driven' feat. Jason Fried // co-founder + CEO @ 37signals May 03, 2024
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    Intuition over Data-Driven, Hooks over Towel Rails and Profit over Revenue

    Trust your intuition, you will gain a lot from this CTO podcast featuring Jason Fried, co-founder and CEO of 37signals, a company known for having groundbreaking policies and products (Basecamp, HEY, Once, etc.). He is also bootstrapping hero and author of multiple books (Getting Real, REWORK, REMOTE, It Doesn’t Have to Be Crazy at Work).

    Listen to find out:

    • Intuitive🔮 over ‘data-driven’ 🔢decision making
    • Hook 🪝 vs Towel Rail 🎏: The Power of Simple, Versatile Products
    • CEO-CTO Relationship: How to counteract the negativity brought on by the typical push-pull 🤼
    • Why they do Customer interviews post-launch
    • Take-home assessments at 37signals: paid and overloaded 🏋️
    • Bezos’ shares in 37signals

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    Timestamps:

    (00:00) INTRO (03:32) Who is Jason Fried (04:59) Early Days of 37Signals (06:05) Jeff Bezos' shares in 37Signals (09:01) Profits over Revenue (10:42) JASON’S NERD JOURNEY (15:35) The Power of No Expectations as First-Time Founder (16:46) Open Source and Rails (19:06) CEO-CTO RELATIONSHIP (19:34) Scale of Product: CEO's Vision vs. CTO's Reality (22:42) Tips to have a good relationship with the CEO as CTO (23:01) Find common ground (24:32) Positive interactions to counteract the negativity of differing opinions (27:38) HOOK VS TOWEL BAR: Analogy for Simple Products (31:07) How to make sure you are building a 'Hook' (not a Towel Bar) (33:20) 'Heated Towels' and Tradeoffs (34:44) Reverse Engineering Product Decisions (35:27) IDEAS AND PRODUCT DISCOVERY (36:06) Where do Ideas come from? (36:45) The Evolution of 'Hey' Email: An Unfolding Idea (38:31) Why they do Customer Interview only Post-Launch (40:09) INTUITION VS DATA DRIVEN DECISIONS (43:49) Hiring: The Human Element (47:17) TakeHome Assessments - Paid and Overloaded (to test decision-making ability) (48:38) Hiring: Attitude vs. Experience (51:15) Do Less to Accomplish More (51:45) No Estimates - but Appetites (53:46) His Anti-Advice Advice for Younger Self (57:15) Pay attention to CSS

    About Jason Fried#

    Jason Fried is the cofounder and president of Basecamp (formerly 37signals), a privately held Chicago-based company committed to building the best web-based tools possible with the least number of features necessary. With David Heinemeier Hansson, Fried is the coauthor of Getting Real: The Smarter, Faster, Easier Way to Build a Successful Web Application; Remote: Office Not Required; and the New York Times bestseller Rework.

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    #99 -Team Topologies 101 feat. Matthew Skelton, co-author of Team Topologies Apr 18, 2024
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    A CTO’s Primer to Value Flow, Continuous Stewardship and Decoupling in Time

    Lead a more humane and effective organisation with inspiration from Matthew Skelton, co-author of Team Topologies. Inspired by system design💠, cybernetics🤖 and neuroscience 🧠, Team Topologies allows CTOs to structure their teams in a more humane way that reduces cognitive load 🤯 while increasing user value 🎯. Listen to find out:

    • Value Flow💦: What, why and how to find it
    • Team Topologies🪢: The 3 team types,1 grouping, and 3 interaction modes
    • Why Continuous Stewardship 🛞 is important in software
    • Decoupling🧩 in Time: Amazon’s Secret Source +Why Team Topologies is like Pilates 🏋️ for your company goals🦸

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    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Intro (00:56) Welcome (02:11) Matthew Skelton's Personal Nerd Journey (06:44) System Thinking for Effective Humane Organisations (08:18) Team Cognitive Load (08:48) Team Interaction Modes (09:59) The Complexity and Chaos of Human Nature in Organisational Design (10:31) The Influence of Neuroscience on Team Topologies (13:52) How team topologies is influenced by cybernetics, neuroscience and systems (15:40) Getting Started with Team Topologies (16:45) Continuously Adapting (17:55) Then vs. Now: Structuring around Value Flows (22:24) Continuous Stewardship: Responsibility of Software Orgs (26:03) How to have everyone work together (26:45) Workshopping to find Value Flow (30:04) Value Flow: Work Backwards from User Needs, Wardley Maps and Existing Team Structure (33:49) Decoupling in Time and why you become less agile when you rely on PMs (38:30) Amazon's Secret to Scaling and Efficiency (39:58) 4 TEAM TYPES (40:23) Stream Aligned Team (42:54) Enabling Team (43:38) Complicated Subsystem Team (44:34) Platform - grouping of teams (45:34) 3 INTERACTION MODES (45:42) Collaboration (45:49) Facilitation (45:57) X-as-a-Service (46:08) How the Dynamic nature and adaptation to change is the Secret Sauce of Team Topologies (49:28) Ditch Hierarchy for Better Value Flow (54:26) Team Topologies as Pilates for Your Organization (1:01:05) Have the confidence to listen: To Yourself and Others

    About Matthew Skelton#

    Matthew Skelton is co-author of the award-winning and ground-breaking book Team Topologies, and Founder & Principal at Conflux. The Team Topologies book was rated one of the ‘Best product management books of all time’ by Book Authority and is widely used by organisations worldwide to transform the way they deliver value. Matthew is one of the foremost leaders in modern organisational dynamics for fast flow, drawing on Team Topologies and related practices to support organisations with transformation towards a sustainable fast flow of value and true business agility.

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