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Aliphine Tuliamuk on Episode 556 of the Ali on the Run Show

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558. Beyond the Run with Coach Chris Bennett Sep 09, 2022

"Don’t just celebrate the final finish line. One of the ways to get through a training plan successfully is to make sure you’re stopping along the way and celebrating."

Chris Bennett is on a mission: He wants runners to have more fun! (There's a reason he's been called "the real-life Ted Lasso.") The Nike Running Global Head Coach — known by hundreds of thousands of runners as simply "Coach" — takes a no-BS approach to running. He might dish out some tough love, but he always has a plan and a reason. He'll never tell you that you suck (and he really doesn't want you to say that to yourself, either), but he might tell you to "calm down," and he'll definitely tell you to "slow down." In this conversation, Coach Bennett talks about the importance of finding purpose on the run, explains why kindness is a secret weapon, and shares his take on run streaks (and whether or not he's doing one).

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What is the purpose of Coach Bennett’s run today? (8:25)
Finding purpose on the run vs. having a goal (11:40)
Is it unrealistic to expect every run to be fun? (18:20)
How to turn a bad run around (24:30)
“I’m not a run streaker, but I have a run streak” (33:00)
How can runners be more kind to ourselves? (42:15)
What it’s like being “The Ted Lasso of Running” (56:00)
Coach Bennett’s love letter to New Jersey (1:02:40)

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557. Emily Durgin, Professional Runner for adidas Sep 08, 2022

“I’m in this whole new world of what they call marathon training. I don’t know. I’m still in denial!”

Emily Durgin is having one heck of a year on the run. The adidas-sponsored professional runner lives and trains in Flagstaff, AZ (though, she says, "Maine will always be home home"), and 2022 has been good to her. She kicked off the year at the Houston Half Marathon, where she ran a personal best (67:54), and became the sixth-fastest American woman ever in the half marathon. And then, the personal bests just kept coming: Emily ran PBs in the 10,000 meters, the 5K, the 10K, and the 15K. But in some ways, she's just getting started. Emily is moving up in distance! She's gearing up for her 26.2-mile debut at the TCS New York City Marathon in November! In this conversation, Emily talks about why she wanted to make her marathon debut this year, why she wanted to do it in New York, and what her training looks like. Plus, how she's gained confidence on the track and the roads over the past year.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Where is “home?” (2:50)
All about Emily’s run today, and how she’s feeling about marathon training so far (3:40)
Why Emily always runs the Beach to Beacon 10K (7:55)
Why now? Emily’s decision to make her marathon debut in 2022 (10:40)
The women Emily loves racing with and against (15:30)
Emily’s reflections on her summer of racing, and the races that boosted her confidence (17:30)
What Emily pictures when she thinks about the New York City Marathon (20:20)
Is there pressure that comes with making a marathon debut? (26:45)
What pre-race Emily is like (29:35)
Emily's earliest memories of becoming a runner (33:50)
Emily's road to becoming a professional runner (40:45)
What a day in the life of a professional runner is like (49:50)

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556. Aliphine Tuliamuk, Olympian Sep 01, 2022

"I saw a lot of people, especially on social media, saying, ‘She’s not gonna make it.’ And in my mind, I wanted to prove them wrong. And I think, honestly, that might have been my biggest downfall — trying to do more too soon, to prove to people that I could do this."

It would be putting it lightly to say that the past two years have been a whirlwind for professional runner Aliphine Tuliamuk. At the beginning of 2020, she won the U.S. Olympic Team Trials Marathon, earning herself a spot on Team USA for the Tokyo Olympics. Then, when the Olympics were postponed due to the pandemic, she and her partner, Tim, saw that as an opportunity: Instead of going to Japan and competing at the Olympics that summer, Aliphine was newly pregnant. She gave birth to a baby girl, Zoe, in January 2021. Then, with the Olympics just seven months away, new-mom Aliphine went all-in on marathon training (with a plus-one!). She traveled to Tokyo, lined up at the start of her first Olympic race, and had to pull out after 20K due to an injury. Today on the show, Aliphine talks about taking a much-needed break after Tokyo, and about how she knew — physically and emotionally — that she was ready to get back on the run. The Hoka NAZ Elite athlete is currently happy, healthy, and ready to light the fall racing scene on fire. (Her words!) This weekend, Aliphine will race the USATF 20K Championships, and then she will line up for her first marathon since Tokyo at the 2022 TCS New York City Marathon in November.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Aliphine is feeling, 70-ish days out from this year’s New York City Marathon, and what her training looks like right now (4:40)
All about that photo from this year’s NYRR New York Mini 10K, and what Aliphine is like on starting lines (7:05)
Aliphine’s fight to get to bring her daughter to the Olympics (16:55)
Aliphine’s favorite — and least favorite — marathon training workouts (24:35)
How Aliphine approached her post-Olympics break (29:15)
How Aliphine follows the running industry (36:15)
Aliphine’s goals for this year’s New York City Marathon (40:30)
Aliphine shares her favorite parts of a marathon (47:00)
Who is in Aliphine’s village? (50:50)
Behind-the-scenes with the women of Hoka NAZ Elite (53:55)
“How does 73 days feel to you?” (57:00)

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555. Ask Ali! Aug 26, 2022

"That’s such a good question, and one that I absolutely refuse to answer!"

Welcome to Ask Ali, a twice-a-month series where I answer all of your questions. This time around, I’m flying through 39 listener questions, sent in via Instagram Stories (I’m @aliontherun1), about my upcoming race announcing plans, how I'm feeling about moving (again!), what's most fulfilling to me right now, my take on introspection and talking about my feelings, and so much more.

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You asked:

What three Peloton instructors would you most like to have dinner with together? (3:20)

Any plans to return to the west coast for races or announcing? (4:45)

Do you use your New Balance SuperComp Trainers for every run or do you cycle your shoes? (6:40)

Do we get a video house tour of the new house? (7:00)

What is your favorite thing about the new house? (9:45)

Love your relationship with your parents. Have you always been close? (11:35)

What is your favorite distance to run and why? (15:20)

How did you start getting up at 4:30? Was it hard? (16:35)

If money is no object, what trip are you taking with Brian, and where are you going with Annie? (18:35)

What happens if you are mid-interview and realize you don’t vibe with your guest? (20:45)

Rank race announcing, podcasting, and media roles in order of most fulfilling to least (23:30)

Do you watch Bridgerton? (25:20)

What are you most excited for right now? (25:45)

You’ve accomplished so much with your announcing. What’s the next big or kind of scary dream? (26:00)

How to introduce yourself to someone in real life that you follow on Instagram (26:35)

Does running solo in the dark ever scare you? (29:10)

Do you know your enneagram number? (31:15)

When will you be in London? (31:35)

What state is New Hampshire’s biggest rival? (31:45)

Is the On the Job series returning? (32:45)

Did you intend your move to NH to be permanent when you first left New Jersey in early 2020? (32:50)

Any advice on how to deal with negative feedback and on how not to take it personally? (34:15)

What’s next for you race-wise? (37:20)

What is the last thing you bought and loved on Amazon? (39:15)

Will you do family Halloween costumes? (40:00)

What does Annie think you and Brian do for a living? (40:20)

My mother-in-law always tells me running is dangerous. What should I say back? (41:00)

Team pumpkin or apple? (41:40)

Any good book recommendations? (41:50)

You own a themed café. Tell me about it. (42:20)

Cold or hot lobster roll? (45:10)

Advice for a 19-year-old feeling lost (45:30)

What is the hardest thing about having a running podcast? (46:40)

How is Annie handling the recent move? (49:30)

Have you always been introspective? (50:15)

Top three favorite candy (51:15)

What happened to race announcing at Beach to Beacon? (51:30)

Do you have a 26.2 sticker on the back of your car? (53:00)

What would you consider to be the turning point in your career? (53:20)

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554. Zac Clark, Co-Founder of the Release Recovery Foundation Aug 25, 2022

"I was in New York, and I went out and I had this experience of watching people run this marathon, and I broke down. I was like, 'Holy shit, this is the most powerful thing I’ve ever seen.'"

To legions of adoring fans, Zac Clark is known as the winner of Season 16 of The Bachelorette, who got engaged to Tayshia Adams. But today, we are getting to know Zac, beyond the Bachelorette. We meet the young Zac who grew up in New Jersey, and the Zac who discovered he had a brain tumor at 23 years old, and had to undergo emergency brain surgery. We meet the Zac who recovered from surgery — and became addicted to prescription painkillers. The Zac who had a rough few years after that. Who got a DUI, whose wife left him, and who spiraled. And the Zac who hit rock bottom one day, when he was saved by a bank teller.

Because of that bank teller, we get the privilege of knowing Zac today. The Zac who spent 4.5 months in rehab, and found recovery from addiction. Who not only joined the board of the rehab facility he attended, but who, in 2017, founded Release Recovery and the Release Recovery Foundation to help people through their own recovery journeys. And along the way, this Zac found running. Today, he is a 10-time marathoner who is currently training for his eighth New York City Marathon, and this month celebrates 11 years of sobriety.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What Zac’s childhood was like, growing up in New Jersey (5:10)
On making apologies in recovery (9:35)
The day Zac discovered he had a brain tumor (11:00)
The road to rock bottom (16:15)
What Zac’s experience in rehab was like, what ultimately helped, and what leaving rehab was like (21:30)
How a newly-sober Zac found his people in NYC (26:40)
How Zac found running (31:00)
Zac’s creation of the Release Recovery Foundation run club (38:30)
How Zac reflects on his time on The Bachelorette (45:00)
What Zac’s New York City Marathon training is like right now (50:00)
What the Release Recovery Foundation does, and how the organization is directly helping people (58:50)

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553. Beyond the Run with Emily Saul, Marathon Mentality Q&A Part II Aug 19, 2022

"The whole idea of getting comfortable being uncomfortable is actually about building a psychological endurance. In the same way we build a physical endurance for running more miles, we can build a kind of psychological endurance or tolerance for this stuff that is uncomfortable, but in the context of running, it’s actually normal."

Welcome to Part II of this summer's Marathon Mentality series with Ali on the Run Show favorite Emily Saul! Emily is a licensed mental health counselor, sport psychology coach, and founder of E Saul Movement. She’s a former Division-1 collegiate rower, she’s a lifelong athlete, she’s a many-time marathoner, and she’s a TEDxBoston speaker. If you’re training for a fall marathon, it’s likely your long runs are ramping up, and you're spending a lot of time thinking about all things 26.2 — the good, the bad, and definitely the ugly. Fortunately, Emily is here to hold your hand throughout the process.

Today, Emily is offering advice about staying mentally strong during hot runs, getting psyched up for long runs and tough workouts, and what it actually means getting comfortable being uncomfortable. Plus, "balance" during marathon season, setting goals, avoiding training burnout, and more. (Then, come back next month when Emily addresses how to tackle the taper, getting into a race-day mindset, and how to have the day of your running dreams.)

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Tips for when you’re mentally struggling to run in the heat (5:00)
How do you actually get comfortable with being uncomfortable? (13:00)
How to mentally prepare yourself for a big workout or long run (26:35)
Advice on balancing marathon training with the rest of life (38:40)
It’s hard to balance training with a social life — any tips for sticking with the plan? (45:25)
Tips for avoiding training burnout as the weekend miles climb (52:10)
How to set a time goal without adding pressure and stress and getting psyched out (1:01:30)

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Emily Saul on Episode 541 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emily Saul on Episode 510 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emily Saul on Episode 574 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emily Saul on Episode 59 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emily Saul’s TEDxBoston talk

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552. Roisin Willis & Juliette Whittaker, The Fastest High Schoolers in America Aug 18, 2022

"It shows, in the past two years, how much we’ve both improved because we’ve had each other to push each other the whole way."

Meet Roisin Willis and Juliette Whittaker: the fastest high schoolers in American history. Not only have Roisin and Juliette spent their respective senior years breaking records and taking home world championships medals, but they've formed a very special long-distance friendship along the way — though it won't be long-distance for much longer. Both Roisin (from Stevens Point, WI) and Juliette (from Laurel, MD) are headed to Stanford University this fall. In this conversation, we get to know the 800m runners whose running resumes are already extensive. They both competed at the U.S. Olympic Track & Field Team Trials last summer, as high school juniors. In April, Roisin was part of the distance medley relay world record-breaking team alongside Olympians Elle Purrier St. Pierre, Heather MacLean, and Kendall Ellis. In May, Juliette won the 800m race at Trials of Miles Track Night NYC, not only breaking the tape, but breaking 2:00 for the first time. Weeks later, she broke the 800m high school national record at USATF U20 Outdoor Championships. To cap off an exciting year and a very long track season, Roisin and Juliette got to represent Team USA at World Athletics U20 Championships in Cali, Colombia, where they both competed in the 800 — and became world gold and bronze medalists, respectively, in the process. Now, they're resting up, reflecting, and getting ready to head to college — together.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Juliette and Roisin’s plans to head to Stanford University later this month (5:45)
How Roisin got into running (9:45)
How Juliette got into running (12:45)
The story of how Juliette and Roisin met, and how they became friends (16:00)
Roisin talks about qualifying for the Olympic Track & Field Trials at Trials of Miles last summer (22:40)
What it was like for Roisin and Juliette to compete at last summer’s Olympic Trials (24:00)
How Roisin and Juliette navigate the pressure of being the fastest high schoolers in the country (26:50)
Roisin and Juliette’s race-day rituals (30:30)
Juliette reflects on breaking 2:00 in the 800m for the first time at Trials of Miles this summer (37:45)
How Roisin has worked on her confidence over the years (42:40)
Roisin’s experience breaking the DMR world record with Team New Balance (46:15)
All about the day Juliette broke the high school national record (48:50)
What it was like making Team USA for the World Athletics U20 Championships (51:00)
Reflecting on competing at World Athletics U20 Championships in Cali, Colombia (57:30)
On the decision to attend Stanford, and who committed first (1:09:00)

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Watch Roisin & Juliette compete at World Athletics U20 Championships

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551. Friendship Fest with Jess Sims & Kirsten Ferguson Aug 16, 2022

"It’s really special when your friend becomes family."

Some friendships build, grow, and develop over time. Others are instant. For Peloton instructors Jess Sims and Kirsten Ferguson, the best friendship was immediate. In the final episode of Friendship Fest Season 2, Jess and Kirsten talk about how they met (through Peloton, naturally), why they hit it off right away, and what it's like when a friend becomes family. Plus, "the Starbucks story" that Jess is still mad about, what it's like being Peloton-famous, and why it was so important for Kirsten to be there when Jess ran the 2022 Boston Marathon.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Jess and Kirsten introduce each other (4:15)
How Jess and Kirsten met and became friends (7:05)
What it’s like when new instructors join the Peloton team (13:00)
“The Starbucks story” (18:20)
On being Peloton-famous (25:45)
All about Kirsten’s epic pool parties (28:50)
On Jess’s special bond with Kirsten’s daughters (31:30)
The day Jess ran the Boston Marathon — and Kirsten was there as her #1 cheerleader (36:45)
Jess and Kirsten share the moments when they felt the most proud of each other (46:00)

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550. Ask Ali! Aug 12, 2022

"There was a part of me that was like, 'What if I hate it? What if I hate this job, what if I hate this role? Because I might! I’m not a media operations person! What if I hate it?' And so before the trip even started, I had kind of told myself, 'Hey, if you don’t love this, that is not a measure of success, and that does not make you a failure. You fail at this if you don’t try, if you don’t show up for your team, if you do a bad job, if you make a lot of mistakes. That would be a failure. But not loving it just means, OK, you tried something new, and if you don’t love it, you don’t have to do it again. But go and learn and take it all in, and what an experience to get to have!'"

Welcome to Ask Ali, a twice-a-month series where I answer all of your questions. This time around, I’m flying through 31 listener questions, sent in via Instagram Stories (I’m @aliontherun1), about my experience at World Athletics Championships, buying a house (!!!), living in New Hampshire, my running paces, feeling proud, and more.

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You asked:

What are the best and worst parts about living in New Hampshire? (3:40)
Which one athlete or coach did you interact with at World Championships that you most want to have on the podcast? (6:45)
What are you proudest of this week (at World Championships)? (7:55)
Would you do something like working World Championships again? (13:10)
What was your favorite race to watch? (16:20)
What did a typical day in Eugene look like? (17:05)
Why was that crane there? (23:15)
Were meals and housing provided? (25:10)
Share more about the new house! (25:30)
Do you miss Brian when you travel? (26:40)
Ultimate running-related dream job? (28:35)
What surprised you most about yourself at World Championships? (32:30)
What was your favorite thing about the state of Oregon? (33:40)
How did you pack for this trip? (34:05)
Favorite dessert? Upcoming marathon plans? Restocks of merch? (34:25)
What is Annie’s full name? (35:15)
Do you have any food preferences or allergies? (36:25)
Do you like swimming? (37:25)
Are you crying right now? (37:45)
Sharpest memory moment from World Championships? (38:50)
You’re invited to a BBQ. What do you bring? (39:50)
What’s your Dairy Queen order? (40:10)
How’s your voice? How do you keep it healthy when talking is a living for you? (40:20)
Who surprised you at the press conferences, in a good way? (42:30)
How did the Crohn’s hold up with such busy days? (44:00)
Why do you do all your runs at a fast pace? (47:30)
Will you sleep in past 4:30 now? (51:20)
Did you go to the Saturday market in Eugene? (52:30)
How did you / everyone not get Covid in Eugene? (52:35)
Are your legs really that long? (53:30)
How freaking exhausted are you at this point? (57:50)

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549. Sara Hall, Team USA Marathoner Aug 11, 2022

"When you think about what you hope to leave on the sport or model for my daughters through the sport, I hope that’s what people see: resiliency, and how to pick yourself up, and not let discouragement get you down."

First we heard from Keira D'Amato. Then Emma Bates. And now, we complete the World Athletics Championships Team USA women's marathon trifecta on the Ali on the Run Show with fifth-place finisher Sara Hall. Not only did Sara — a 39-year-old mom of four — run a season's best time of 2:22:10 that day in Eugene, she also says it was the most fun she's ever had running a marathon. In this conversation, Sara recaps her entire World Championships experience.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Was Sara having as much fun as it seemed? (3:40)
Sara reflects on her training for the World Championships marathon, and how she was feeling heading into the race both physically and emotionally (8:50)
The impact Sara’s performance at the 2020 London Marathon has had on her career and her confidence (12:00)
What Sara’s pre-race obligations were like (17:30)
All about race morning (20:00)
Sara’s plan to have fun (29:20)
How the race played out (35:00)
The moment when Sara decided to chase down fifth place (40:10)
Sights and sounds from the finish line (43:20)
Sara recaps all the post-race action and activities (51:00)
What Sara can — and can’t — tell us about her fall racing plans (55:15)

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Sara Hall on Episode 490 of the Ali on the Run Show

Sara Hall on Episode 459 of the Ali on the Run Show

Sara Hall on Episode 321 of the Ali on the Run Show

Sara Hall on Episode 300 of the Ali on the Run Show

Sara and Ryan Hall on Episode 144 of the Ali on the Run Show

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548. Beyond the Run with Michelle Wolf Aug 05, 2022

"These people are out on the track, by themselves, just with their own body and their own mind. It’s really cool to watch. It’s cool to watch humans push themselves like that. And I want everyone else to be as excited about it as I am."

Michelle Wolf is a stand-up comic, an ultra runner, and a massive fan of track and field. So it makes perfect sense that she was at World Athletics Championships in Eugene, OR, last month! In this conversation, Michelle talks about how she ended up in Eugene, working with the Hayward Magic team on an Instagram series called "Loosen Up with Michelle Wolf." (Fun fact: She got the job, in part, after her appearance on the Ali on the Run Show last year!) She talks about interviewing athletes including Athing Mu, Ryan Crouser, Grant Fisher, and Marvin Bracy-Williams, and shares the highs and lows of her time at Hayward Field.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What Michelle has been up to since World Championships (2:30)
How Michelle got to go to World Championships (5:50)
What Emily’s shows in Portland were like leading up to World Championships (11:30)
All about “Loosen Up with Michelle Wolf” (20:10)
On balancing work and running (22:50)
Michelle’s experience interviewing Athing Mu (28:45)
Behind-the-scenes stories from Eugene (34:45)
Michelle’s highest and lowest points from being at World Championships (45:15)

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Michelle Wolf on Episode 464 of the Ali on the Run Show

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Celeste Barber on Instagram

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547. Emma Bates, Team USA Marathoner Aug 04, 2022

"That’s what I want — that’s the only thing that drives me as much as it does. I just want to inspire the next generation. And I feel like we did that. You would’ve sworn we won the entire race. You would’ve sworn we swept the podium! But, you know, fifth, seventh, eighth, and for people to be that proud and excited for us? It doesn’t get any better than that."

The World Athletics Championships conversations continue! Last week, we heard from Team USA's Keira D'Amato, and today, fellow Team USA marathoner Emma Bates is up! Emma says the World Athletics Championships marathon was the most fun she has ever had running a race, and in this episode, she talks about why it tops her list. Emma finished seventh (in the world!) in that race, running 2:23:18 and taking more than a minute off her personal best time. And here, we're breaking it all down. Emma talks about getting Covid in December, and talks about how that impacted and derailed her training. She talks about the comeback, about how she was feeling heading into the biggest race of her life, and about the pre-race pep talk from her coach, Joe Bosshard. Plus, all about the race itself: the party in the hotel lobby at 3 AM, the quiet bus ride to the start, the questionable warm-up routine, and the unexpected offer from teammate Sara Hall. Emma talks about how she stayed tough when her legs started to hurt, she explains what the crowds felt like along the way, and she breaks down that magical finish line moment. (Also, a LOL-worthy story about Ryan Hall and...Emma's urine.)

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Emma recovers from a race like World Championships (2:50)
What it was like getting Covid in December, and how it derailed Emma’s training (6:00)
How Emma found out she made Team USA (10:40)
How Emma celebrated her 30th birthday before leaving for Eugene (16:10)
Red vs. white: How Emma decided which Team USA kit to wear for the marathon (18:00)
What race morning was like (19:50)
How the race played out (29:00)
What the crowds and fans were like along the course (34:00)
When it started to hurt (36:45)
That finish line feeling (42:00)
Emma’s post-race drug testing story (48:50)
All about Emma’s Instagram race recaps (54:45)
How Emma spent the rest of her time in Eugene (59:40)
Emma’s advice to fellow marathoners (1:03:30)

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Emma Bates on Episode 527 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emma Bates on Episode 490 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emma Bates on Episode 444 of the Ali on the Run Show

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546. Keira D'Amato, Team USA Marathoner Jul 28, 2022

"I feel that every time I step on the line — like I have nothing to lose. And I get that question a lot: 'Do you feel a lot of pressure now that you’re the American record holder?' No. I feel no pressure. No one thought I was going to get the American record, and no one thinks I’m probably going to go any further. I just feel a lot of support. So yeah, I kind of just felt like I’m playing with house money."

Keira D'Amato is the fastest — and funniest — marathoner in the country. And three weeks ago, the American record holder in the marathon got a phone call that changed everything. She had just run — and won — the B.A.A. 10K, and was planning her fall marathon schedule. But plans changed, quickly, and she learned that a spot had opened up on Team USA for the upcoming World Athletics Championships marathon in Eugene, OR. The spot was hers if she wanted it, which she knew immediately that she did. In this conversation — recorded just a few days post-race in Eugene — Keira talks about getting that call two weeks before race day. She talks about her prep, about how she felt on race day, and about what the race itself was like. And in true Keira fashion, she showed up to record with a trick up her sleeve: a plan to take over the Ali on the Run Show. (Don't worry, I let her turn the tables on me, and then spun them right back around to hear all about her eighth-place finish at the marathon.) Plus, her kids' reactions to her making the team, her dance cam debut, and that oh-so-memorable finish line moment with Team USA teammates Emma Bates and Sara Hall.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Welcome to “Keira on the Run!” (4:30)
All about Keira’s Wikipedia page and her plans to get a pedicure (17:40)
On processing the World Championships marathon experience (21:50)
The inside scoop on the Team USA group text (23:00)
On being the marathon team “sausage,” and what it was like getting the call to join Team USA (24:15)
What happened after saying “yes” (30:30)
Nothing to lose, or everything to prove? (36:00)
How Keira’s kids reacted to her news about joining Team USA (37:25)
How Keira felt leading up to the race (39:50)
Keira’s conversations with Emma Bates and Sara Hall before the race (45:15)
All about that finish line moment (49:00)
Keira on the dance cam! (57:30)
What went down after the race (1:00:25)

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Keira & Anthony D'Amato on Episode 475 of the Ali on the Run Show

Keira D’Amato on Episode 414 of the Ali on the Run Show

Keira D’Amato on Episode 305 of the Ali on the Run Show

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545. World Athletics Championships Recap, Part II with Jay Holder Jul 26, 2022

"Listen, there are eight heats. Seven of them were all men. We are one-eighth of the media. We need to get that number up. But hell yeah to being the one-eighth."

Jay Holder and I are back today, talking all things World Athletics Championships! We spent more than two weeks in Eugene, OR, working on the media experience team — him as the mixed zone supervisor, me as the press conference moderator — and in the third installment of our World Champs recaps, we're picking up where we left off last time. We talk about running the Media 800 at Hayward Field, share our favorite (and least favorite) moments from the 10-day competition period, and share the most challenging and unforgettable experiences along the way. (Check out our first recap here, and listen to our World Championships Q&A episode here.)

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Jay Holder on Episode 544 of the Ali on the Run Show

Jay Holder on Episode 543 of the Ali on the Run Show

Jay Holder on Episode 412 of the Ali on the Run Show

Jay Holder on Episode 231 of the Ali on the Run Show

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544. Ask Ali, World Championships Edition Jul 22, 2022

"I love being in the trenches with a good team."

Welcome to Ask Ali, a twice-a-month series where I answer all of your questions. This time around, I’m joined by guest host Jay Holder to answer all of your World Athletics Championships-related questions, sent in via Instagram Stories (I’m @aliontherun1). For more about this experience so far in Eugene, OR, check out yesterday's episode.

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543. World Athletics Championships Recap, Part I with Jay Holder Jul 21, 2022

"You said, 'I could never do that.' And that actually made me think that you could do it. Because it made me think about what you do every day, and it just felt like you’d be a natural at that role. So that’s where we’re at."

Hi from the Pacific Northwest! I'm coming to you today from Eugene, OR, where I'm working on site as the press conference moderator for the 2022 World Athletics Championships. (How cool is that?!) In this episode, I'm joined by Jay Holder, Vice President of Marketing and Communications at Atlanta Track Club, to talk about our respective roles at World Championships and our experiences so far. We talk about how I got this job, what it actually entails, and what the highlights have been so far. We're working hard, getting just enough sleep to get by, and having a lot of fun along the way. (Check out Jay's previous appearances on the Ali on the Run Show, talking about his role at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials, and about working as the deputy venue media manager for last summer's Tokyo Olympics.)

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542. LIVE at the WineShine Half Marathon with Alysia Montaño & Stephanie Howe Jul 19, 2022

I had the pleasure and privilege of being the start and finish line race announcer at the inaugural WineShine Half Marathon in Napa Valley this past weekend — and bonus! The day before the race, I got to host a live show at the Silverado Resort and Spa with superstar guests Alysia Montaño and Stephanie Howe. We talked a lot about the highs that come with racing (like Stephanie's Western States win, and the time Alysia ran the 800m in the U.S. National Championships at eight months pregnant), and we talk about the tough stuff. The ruts. The losses. The disappointments. Alysia and Stephanie are proof that this sport can make your dreams come true and break your heart a few times along the way.

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541. Beyond the Run with Emily Saul, Marathon Mentality Q&A Part I Jul 15, 2022

"Check in on why you’re doing this. It doesn’t have to feel like the biggest 'why' statement of the whole world, like, 'What’s the purpose of life?' But it really does help you to say, 'What’s meaningful about this for me, right now?'"

Ali on the Run Show favorite Emily Saul is back! Emily is a licensed mental health counselor, sport psychology coach, and founder of E Saul Movement. She's a former Division-1 collegiate rower, she's a lifelong athlete, she's a many-time marathoner, and she's a TEDxBoston speaker. This conversation kicks off the first of a three-part series within the Beyond the Run series, where we talk about the connection between running and mental wellness. Today, Emily is answering listener questions about the mental side of marathon training. If you're training for a fall marathon, it's likely you started training this month. (Exciting!) So, Emily is here to hold your hand throughout the process. These questions are all about getting into the right headspace to start training. Emily is addressing comebacks, comparison traps, burnout, and all the things that are top of mind at the beginning of a training cycle. (She'll return to the show in August for training-related questions, and in September to help get you psyched and mentally ready for race day.)

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Emily’s first words to fall marathoners (6:40)
On getting past a motivational rut (10:45)
Dealing with burnout (19:05)
Navigating the comparison trap (24:40)
Emily’s advice for dealing with mom guilt (34:15)
Returning to training after a tough race or setback (42:00)
How to redefine expectations (47:30)
“Help! I can’t stop talking about running!” (54:00)

For more, check out:

Emily Saul on Episode 510 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emily Saul on Episode 574 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emily Saul on Episode 59 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emily Saul’s TEDxBoston talk

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540. Yuki Chorney, “The Running Unicorn” Jul 14, 2022

"All of a sudden, I was over here, alone, living in a small apartment the size of a dorm room, not having a lot of friends, I didn’t have anything to do. I didn’t have any future that I was looking forward to. I didn’t know what to do with myself except to put on my running shoes and go out and start running."

Yuki Chorney is a 39-time marathoner with a 3:15 personal best. She has run 21 ultramarathons, including 100 milers. And she does it all — whether it's a 5K or an all-day event — decked out in glitter, sparkles, and rhinestones. Yuki Chorney is a self-proclaimed "running unicorn," and if you've ever seen her on the run, you know it's hard not to smile when she passes you (which she probably will, with a joyful, genuine smile). At 50 years old, Yuki is finding joy in running more than ever before. In this conversation, she talks about growing up in Japan, moving to the United States, and finding running — and herself — in the process. Today, Yuki lives in Mont Vernon, NH, with her husband, two teenage daughters, two dogs, three cats, two goats, five chickens, and guinea pig. She works as a human resources professional for a financial services company, and she really wants you to try running in a tutu. ("Just once," she says, "and see what you think!")

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What’s making Yuki happy right now, and what she’s currently training for (3:30)
What Yuki’s childhood was like (6:30)
What life looked like after college (10:15)
How Yuki found running (12:00)
Yuki’s fondest Boston Marathon memories (18:35)
Yuki’s introduction to the running community (21:15)
All about Yuki’s iconic running costumes! (26:10)
The most fun Yuki has ever had running a race (41:45)
Why Yuki started running ultramarathons (45:00)
What Yuki’s daughters think of her running in costume, and how Yuki’s relationship with running has evolved throughout parenthood (49:30)
Yuki’s approach to training and racing (57:00)

For more, check out:

Yuki’s 2019 Boston Marathon interview on WBZ

Gate City Striders

Girls on the Run

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539. Friendship Fest with Jasmine Todd & Katelyn Hutchison Jul 12, 2022

"I’m a track athlete and I’m doing full-time something else, and people feel like they can’t do both. But I feel like me and Jasmine, and a few others, are definitely showing that’s possible. I feel like we’re definitely paving our own way in the sport."

Jasmine Todd is a professional long jumper and sprinter. Katelyn Hutchison is a 400m runner and three-time All-American who just finished running for Ithaca College, and is now headed to the University of Kentucky to finish out her NCAA eligibility. These two dynamic (and fast!) women just met for the first time three weeks ago — and they are already the best of friends.

In this conversation, Jasmine and Katelyn talk about meeting at USATF Outdoor Championships and forming an immediate bond. They talk about their experience in the mixed zone with Citius Mag, interviewing professional athletes, and about what they hope to bring to this sport. They share their best stories from USAs (including getting that coveted Sha'Carri Richardson interview), and talk about their big dreams and goals for World Athletics Championships (starting this week!), and more.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Meet Jasmine and Katelyn! (3:10)
How Jasmine and Katelyn met and became friends (5:50)
The story of how Katelyn ended up getting to go to U.S. Outdoor Championships (8:45)
How Jasmine navigated competing at USAs and covering the event as a member of the media (18:00)
Where Jasmine and Katelyn find inspiration to compete and be members of the track and field media, and how they’re navigating all of it (20:15)
How Katelyn and Jasmine came up with some of the super fun questions they asked athletes in the mixed zone (30:30)
On representation in running media (38:15)
How Jasmine and Katelyn really bonded (45:30)
Katelyn and Jasmine’s plans for World Championships (47:45)
Katelyn and Jasmine share the moments when they’ve felt especially proud of each other (50:30)

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Chris Chavez & Kyle Merber on Episode 489 of the Ali on the Run Show

Out of the Blocks podcast

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538. Ask Ali! Jul 08, 2022

"I still don’t know if it was good, but I did my best. And it was the first time where I realized I’m kind of willing to fail at something. I’m not usually. But with this, I was like, 'OK, I’m going to do my best. And it might be a total flop. It might suck. And that’ll be OK! I’ve never done it before!'"

Welcome to Ask Ali, a twice-a-month series where I answer all of your questions. This time around, I’m flying through 42 (!!!) randomly selected listener questions, sent in via Instagram Stories (I’m @aliontherun1), about everything from my summer plans (I leave for World Championships tomorrow!), my approach to running right now, balancing work and motherhood, and a surprisingly emotional dive into my favorite Ted Lasso episode.

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You asked:

What are you most looking forward to about this summer? (4:00)
What’s the funniest thing that Annie has said? (6:20)
Will you bring back the Everyday Runner series? (7:00)
Should I cut my hair off? (7:10)
Does Ellie have separation anxiety? (7:45)
How did you get to do a TED Talk? (8:25)
If you could go to the Olympics for any sport, what would it be? (9:20)
How is house hunting going? (10:00)
Do you follow a training plan or are you just fun running all the time? (10:30)
Where is a good cheer spot for the NYC Marathon? (12:00)
What would “starting out Ali” ask “now Ali” in an interview question? (13:30)
How have you started connecting with pros for the podcast? (15:00)
I’m nervous about balancing a child, work, and running. Any advice? (17:20)
Worst bathroom emergency story (20:25)
Would you ever talk about the pay of race announcing? (21:00)
What was your very first podcast episode? (22:20)
Do you train with a hydration pack? (22:40)
Any ultra runners you’d like to have on the show? (22:50)
Do you miss Orangetheory? (23:20)
What brings you the most energy and what drains you the most? (23:40)
Tell us about your favorite Ted Lasso episode (27:00)
How do you get past feeling starstruck when you interview people? (30:25)
What does your family do for the Fourth of July? (32:50)
Favorite pre-race and post-race dinners (33:45)
Should everyone run a marathon at least once? (34:15)
What is your favorite race to run? (34:45)
Did you get rid of your Peloton Tread when you got injured? (35:35)
Are you going to be the race announcer for this year’s Beach to Beacon? (36:15)
Are you doing any live shows at World Championships? (36:45)
If you started a podcast about anything other than running, what would it be? (38:05)
How do you pick which Peloton classes to take? (38:55)
If you had to guest teach P.E. at a local school, what would you teach? (40:00)
What’s a running event or distance you would like to try? (41:00)
How do you prioritize sleep with all the stuff you are doing? (43:30)
What’s on your summer running playlist? (44:10)
To-do list: on paper or on an app? (45:25)
Ocean or lake? (45:40)
Do you have an emotional support water bottle? (45:45)
Favorite shorts for running and hanging around (46:35)
Is there anything particular that you do to prepare for finish line announcing? (48:00)
Favorite snack to bring on a road trip (49:15)
Most surreal moment of the last several months (49:30)

Check out:

Beyond the Run with Ali Feller, TEDxBoston Speaker

Forestbound ESCAPE bag

New England Half Marathon

NYRR Dash to the Finish Line 5K

My Peloton Playlist (via Spotify)

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537. Dede Griesbauer, Professional Triathlete Jul 07, 2022

"Just because you’re older doesn’t mean you have to be slower."

Some people have obvious superpowers. Others — like professional triathlete Dede Griesbauer — keep their superpowers closer to the chest. Dede recently gave a TEDxBoston talk about her own superpowers: persistence and determination. And in this conversation, she explains how receiving a "Persistence & Determination" award as an 8-year-old at summer camp helped her become the successful athlete she is today. Dede is 51 years old, and has been competing as a professional triathlete for the past 20 years. She started competing at a time when many pros are starting to think about transitioning out of the sport. That's never deterred her, though. Dede doesn't care that her competitors are often half her age. Because she is the one with persistence and determination. And she has the trophy case to show for it: Dede is a three-time Ironman champion, a three-time Top 10 finisher at Ironman Kona, and was the top American finisher in Kona twice. Her current favorite event: the Ultraman. Dede completed her first Ultraman event — a three-day, 320-mile event that includes a 10K swim and 91-mile bike ride on the first day, a 171-mile bike ride the second day, and a double marathon on the third day — in 22 hours, 48 minutes, and 31 seconds, smashing the world record by more than an hour. When she's not on the swim, bike, or run, Dede is a commentator for Ironman. She lives in Boulder, CO, with her husband, dogs, and scooter.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What’s making Dede happy right now (5:00)
What Dede’s training for right now (7:55)
All about 8-year-old Dede’s life-changing summer camp experience (21:15)
How Dede has dealt with pressure and expectations (29:00)
Dede’s early career working on Wall Street (38:40)
What it’s like standing on start lines next to competitors who are half Dede’s age (48:00)
Dede’s advice for longevity in sport (51:10)

For more, check out:

Dede’s TEDxBoston Talk!

Kate Fagan on Episode 528 of the Ali on the Run Show

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536. Friendship Fest with Dakotah Lindwurm & Annie Frisbie Jul 05, 2022

"When it’s race time, we’re competitive. I’m never just going to let Annie win! But it’s also really fun that when the race is over, we get to celebrate together regardless of how it went."

Annie Frisbie and Dakotah Lindwurm have a lot in common. They train together as members of Minnesota Distance Elite. They're both sponsored by Puma. And they're both chill, low key, and low profile in their everyday lives — but when it's marathon go time, they unleash their superpowers. This week on Friendship Fest, Annie (a 2:26 marathoner who made her 26.2-mile debut at the New York City Marathon last year) and Dakotah (who just won Grandma's Marathon in a personal best of 2:25) talk about how they met, how they bond during weekend long runs (by refusing to slow down for the boys), and how they find joy in racing. Plus, what's next for each of them.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Dakotah’s story of doing the Macarena mid-marathon (4:45)
How Annie and Dakotah met (6:00)
How and why Annie and Dakotah each signed with Puma (9:45)
Would Annie and Dakotah rather race together and race each other, or be on the sidelines to cheer on their friend? (12:45)
Dakotah recaps her recent win at Grandma’s Marathon — and Annie talks about what it was like watching from afar (15:10)
All about Annie’s recent races (20:30)
What’s coming up for Annie and Dakotah? (24:30)
What Annie and Dakotah are like on the run and off (26:00)
Looking back at Boston 2022 (31:10)
How Annie and Dakotah’s friendship has progressed over the years, and what they’re each like on race day (38:40)
Dakotah and Annie share the moments when they’ve felt proudest of each other (48:15)

For more, check out:

Dakotah Lindwurm on Episode 467 of the Ali on the Run Show

Annie Frisbie on Episode 478 of the Ali on the Run Show

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535. Beyond the Run with Dave McGillivray Jul 01, 2022

"I’m like, 'Oh this isn’t good! I’m locked inside of my own porta-john, 15 minutes before the start of the most prestigious marathon in the world, that I’ve been working on with everyone else for a year!' And I’m in a porta-john, and no one can hear me. And if I shake it too much, it’s gonna fall over, and that’s not good! Helicopters are circling above us, so you can’t hear very well, so no one’s hearing that I’m locked in the porta-john. So I had a choice…"

Dave McGillivray is best known as the longtime race director for the Boston Marathon. (And every year, after fulfilling his race director duties, Dave returns to the start line in Hopkinton, MA, where he runs the marathon himself.) Dave is the president and founder of his own company, DMSE Sports, which is an event management business in Boston that has produced, directed, and consulted on more than 1,600 events around the world. Dave has run more than 165 marathons, he's an Ironman triathlete, and he's a World Marathon Challenge finisher. In this conversation, we go beyond Dave's personal and professional accolades — less about the logistics, and more on what drives him and what he gets out of doing all of this. We talk about what it really took to pull off directing two Boston Marathons in a six-month span. (If you remember, the 2021 Boston Marathon took place on October 11 because of the pandemic.) Dave shares some of his favorite Boston Marathon memories (including an unforgettable porta-potty story), and answers the question we're all asking: "Is racing back?"

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What’s making Dave happy right now (4:05)
Dave’s Boston Marathon porta-potty story (10:50)
What were the greatest challenges in pulling off two Boston Marathons in a six-month span? (14:00)
On being a local celebrity on race weekends, and how Dave takes care of himself during extraordinarily busy times (24:35)
All about Dave’s 50th running of the Boston Marathon (33:30)
Dave’s most memorable Boston Marathon moments (44:30)
Is racing back? (1:02:00)
What hasn’t Dave done? (1:06:00)

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Dave McGillivray on Episode 424 of the Ali on the Run Show

“The Future of Running” Live Show

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534. Courtney Wayment Smith, Professional Runner for On Jun 30, 2022

"I’m excited to just put myself in it and be a part of it and give myself a chance. I think incredible things happen when you believe in yourself and stay in the here and now and give yourself the chance."

On June 11, 2022, Brigham Young University graduate Courtney Wayment Smith made NCAA history. Competing at NCAA Championships, she ran the 3000m steeplechase in 9:16 — not only taking a commanding win, but breaking the collegiate national record (previously held by now-Olympian Courtney Frerichs) in the process. That time also put her at #5 on the all-time U.S. women's steeplechase list, behind Frerichs, Emma Coburn, Colleen Quigley, and Jenny Simpson.

To celebrate, Courtney signed with an agent (Ray Flynn) and signed her first professional contract with On! The icing on the cake: Courtney competed at USATF Outdoor Championships this past weekend, where she finished second in the 3000m steeplechase, earning her a spot on Team USA heading into next month's World Athletics Championships. Needless to say, it's been an exciting summer for Courtney, who lives in Provo, UT, and will continue training with her BYU coach Diljeet Taylor.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

On getting used to saying “I’m a professional runner” (3:10)
How the pandemic impacted Courtney’s college experience and her budding professional career (7:00)
Why Courtney loves the steeplechase (9:00)
On graduating from college, and celebrating accordingly (13:00)
Recapping NCAAs, USAs, and the celebrations in between (14:20)
What it felt like lining up at USATF Outdoor Championships, and all about the process of going pro (18:55)
All about the 3000m steeplechase final at USAs (27:25)
On navigating post-race interviews, mixed zones, media, and more (32:25)
Courtney’s special bond with Coach Diljeet Taylor (41:00)
All about Courtney’s signature hairstyle and those extra-long lashes (44:35)
Where Courtney’s at mentally as she prepares for World Athletics Championships (46:50)

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533. Friendship Fest with Allie Wilson & Yolanda Ngarambe Jun 28, 2022

"This is the first time in so long that I’ve been lining up with teammates, and it makes it so much more special. There’s nothing better than having a teammate who, even if you’re not in the same heat, you’re warming up together. There’s less pressure because you’re doing it together."

Allie Wilson and Yolanda Ngarambe are two of the fiercest middle-distance competitors in running right now. But off the track? The Atlanta Track Club Elite teammates are fun, silly, and as giggly as it gets. In this conversation, Allie and Yolanda share the story of how they first met (Allie was running late, Yolanda saved the day) and how their instant bond was formed. We recorded this conversation on Friday morning, June 24, when Allie and Yolanda were both in Eugene, OR, for USATF Outdoor National Championships. Allie had just competed in the 800m prelims the night before and was resting up before the semi-finals that night. (She ultimately advanced to the finals, where she finished fourth in a very exciting race.) And while Yolanda (the Swedish indoor mile record holder!) awaits word on whether she'll get to represent Team Sweden at World Championships next month, she was in Eugene cheering for her teammates and managing the team's social media accounts (her first time on the other side of the mixed zone!).

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What Allie and Yolanda are doing in Eugene (3:20)
Allie and Yolanda introduce each other (5:00)
What the Atlanta Track Club Elite team dynamic is like (10:00)
How Allie and Yolanda met and became friends (15:25)
What Yolanda has to do to make Team Sweden for the World Championships (25:00)
The lowdown on Yolanda’s recent racing (26:00)
All things USAs (38:00)
What Yolanda and Allie are each like on race days (52:45)
Yolanda and Allie shares the moments when they felt most proud of each other — and all about Allie's viral finish line moment in May (1:01:10)

Check out:

Allie Wilson on Episode 469 of the Ali on the Run Show

Olivia Baker on Episode 491 of the Ali on the Run Show

Allie’s viral racing moment

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532. Ask Ali with Guest Host Devon Pass Jun 24, 2022

"Don’t berate, educate!"

Devon Pass is a runner, a mom to daughter Evie, and a dear friend — and today, she’s a podcast host! On this edition of Ask Ali, returning Ali on the Run Show guest Devon is here to do all the question asking, reading your questions from Instagram (and coming up with a few of her own). It's extra honest, extra fun, and even a little salty! ("I'm only salty behind a paywall." —Ali Feller)

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Devon asks:

Where did you learn to braid? (5:45)
What is the best gift you’ve ever been given? (7:00)
When was the last time you cried? (9:25)
How many people are on your holiday card list? (12:25)
Where are you at with your fitness pursuits? (14:55)
What are we doing with our hair after summer runs? (22:15)
Describe your ideal run (26:00)
What do you listen to on the run? (28:15)
Do you worry about aging? (34:15)
What do you think is the biggest misperception of you? (41:30)
Any advice for people in marriages with a lot of travel? (46:30)
Are you determined to buy a house in your current area, or would you move elsewhere for the right house? (59:30)
Ever considered releasing more video content or podcast video clips? (1:03:55)
Can we ask what’s going on with Shokz? (1:08:20)

For more, check out:

Devon Pass on Episode 369 of the Ali on the Run Show

Dr. Carrie Jackson on Episode 517 of the Ali on the Run Show

Celebrity Memoir Book Club podcast

Be There in Five podcast

Rich Roll podcast

Deux U podcast

Comments by Celebs podcast

The Forgetting podcast

The Ringer podcast network

Dear Shandy podcast

@mom.worthy on Instagram

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531. Nikki Hiltz, lululemon Athlete Jun 23, 2022

"When I’m happy and feel safe and I’m energized by the people and things around me, that’s when I’m going to run the best."

Nikki Hiltz returns to the Ali on the Run Show for the fifth time — with some big news! Nikki is a professional middle-distance runner who is here to talk all about their new sponsor (it's lululemon!), their new coach (Mike Smith!), their new training partners (Rachel Schneider Smith!), their recent move to Flagstaff, and the first-ever in-person Pride 5K (it's happening IRL in Flagstaff in October!). Nikki and I recorded this conversation just a few days after they ran at the Trials of Miles Track Night NYC. That night, Nikki ran a personal best in the 800m, and returned to the track 50 minutes later to finish second in the 1500m. This week, Nikki will be competing at the USATF Outdoor Championships in Eugene, OR.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

On being a 1500m specialist (3:30)
Why Nikki decided to open their season at Trials of Miles in NYC (3:30)
“The Nikki Kick” (10:20)
Nikki’s new sponsor! (13:45)
All about this year’s Pride 5K (20:45)
Nikki’s decision to move to Flagstaff and train with Mike Smith (26:20)
What Nikki’s training has been like recently (32:20)
Nikki’s upcoming racing plans (36:00)
Why selling T-shirts resurrected Nikki’s hope in this sport (42:00)
What Nikki has learned about authenticity and vulnerability (46:30)

For more, check out:

Nikki Hiltz on Episode 476 of the Ali on the Run Show

Nikki Hiltz on Episode 294 of the Ali on the Run Show

Nikki Hiltz on Episode 188 of the Ali on the Run Show

Nikki Hiltz on Episode 170 of the Ali on the Run Show

Trials of Miles Track Night NYC

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530. Friendship Fest with Jess Movold & Conor Nickel Jun 21, 2022

"You convinced me to come out for a run. And thank god I did. Everything has snowballed from that run."

What a treat today to get to welcome two of my favorite friends to Friendship Fest on the Ali on the Run Show! Jess Movold and Conor Nickel are New York City-based run coaches who met one fateful day several years ago at Mile High Run Club, where they were each auditioning to be instructors. Now, they are not only the best of friends, they also continue to work together: Conor is the Chief Operating Officer at The Fortitude Strength Club, which is co-owned by Jess's husband, Kyle, and is where Jess is also a coach. In this conversation, we get to know new-to-the-show Conor — a former runner at the University of Pennsylvania who has worked in the running industry for his entire adult life. (You'll love his stories from working the start line of the New York City Marathon!) And we get an update from fan-favorite Jess, who gave birth to her first baby, a boy very appropriately named Battle, when she was just 26 weeks pregnant. (The day we recorded this, Battle turned 11 weeks old! He's still in the NICU getting big and strong, and Jess continues to prove her strength by navigating new motherhood as a NICU parent.) Jess and Conor's friendship is filled with pride and admiration — and plenty of laughter.

Also: There's a part in this conversation where Conor is talking about the tunnels underneath NYC, and Jess mentions people living down there. My mind went to fantasy-type stories — perhaps I've been watching Trolls too much lately with my daughter — but Jess shared the title of a book, The Mole People, which is about the homeless population that lives beneath NYC. I ordered myself a copy and am looking forward to digging in and learning about something I, clearly, had no idea about. (When Jess mentioned this, I responded, "Cool!" because I thought surely that wasn't real and was thinking it was adventure-seekers below the surface. It's not that at all. The more you know indeed.)

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What brought Jess and Conor to Mile High Run Club the day that they met (9:20)
How Jess and Conor became friends (15:00)
Why Conor resisted Jess’s invitations to strength train with her — and what happened when he finally gave in (22:20)
Is Conor single? (32:45)
Conor’s best stories from the New York City Marathon start line (35:35)
Conor and Jess share their takes on adult friendships (48:00)
Jess is a mom! (57:00)
Conor and Jess share the moments when they felt proudest of each other (1:03:30)

Check out:

Jess Movold on Episode 486 of the Ali on the Run Show

Jess Movold on Episode 249 of the Ali on the Run Show

Jess Movold on Episode 147 of the Ali on the Run Show

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529. Beyond the Run with Noor Abukaram, Founder of Let Noor Run Jun 17, 2022

"I loved running. I had the best race of my life and I was so excited. That feeling! You know that feeling? And they took it away from me that day. Anyone should be able to excel at what they love without these roadblocks of discrimination."

In 2019, 17-year-old Noor Abukaram ran the best, fastest cross-country race of her life at a local meet in Ohio. But when she checked the results afterward, her name wasn't there. She learned that she had been disqualified before the race even started. For wearing a hijab.

Noor — who was raised in a Muslim family and started wearing a traditional head and neck covering as a teenager — shared her story from that day, of being disqualified for rules unbeknownst to her, and it quickly went viral. And so she turned her heartache into advocacy. She founded "Let Noor Run," a campaign to raise awareness about religious-based discrimination in sports and beyond. She successfully helped change the laws and legislation that protect the freedom of religious expression for athletes in Ohio. And at only 19 years old, she just starred in an ESPN film that premiered at the Tribeca Film Festival.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What Young Noor was like growing up (3:30)
How Noor became a runner (9:30)
What Noor’s early high school experience was like (14:00)
Why wearing a hijab means so much to Noor (21:00)
On attending an Islamic school but playing sports at the local public high school (25:00)
The cross-country meet in Ohio that changed everything for Noor (30:50)
How “Let Noor Run” was born (37:00)
What it was like going viral (43:00)
On seeing an opportunity for change in a crappy situation (50:30)
Noor’s willingness to be an advocate (53:30)
Noor gives us all the “SB 181 101” — what it means and what it does as a law (59:20)
How all of this has affected Noor’s relationship with running (1:01:35)
Noor’s dreams for the future (1:04:20)

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528. Kate Fagan, Best-Selling Author, Sports Reporter, & Commentator Jun 16, 2022

"I have to trust that I have something I want to say, and just double down on that."

Kate Fagan is one of today's most important voices in women's sports. She is the best-selling author of three books — and is best-known in the running community as the author of What Made Maddy Run, about University of Pennsylvania runner Madison Holleran. Kate spent seven years as a columnist and feature writer for ESPN, she was a regular panelist on ESPN's Around the Horn, and she was host of Outside the Lines. Today, she writes for Sports Illustrated, and is co-host of the Off the Looking Glass podcast. In this conversation, we talk about Kate's road to writing greatness, including why she never really wanted to be on TV, the compromises she made to herself along the way, and her time as a Division-1 basketball player struggling with her sexuality and identity while at the University of Colorado Boulder. She talks about the process of writing Split Image, and later writing What Made Maddy Run, and the emotions involved in both. Plus: all about Kate's recent TEDxBoston talk, her take on why we watch sports, and her wishes for the future of women's sports.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What Kate’s watching right now, and what’s making her happy (4:30)
All about Kate’s writing process (8:00)
On caring — or not — about what people think, why Kate never wanted to be on TV, and her dreams for a women-centric sports show (9:30)
Kate’s efforts to get women’s sports covered by ESPN (24:30)
Kate’s TEDxBoston experience (28:45)
“Stakes & Storylines” (35:20)
How Kate got involved in sports (47:00)
Kate’s college dreams at University of Colorado at Boulder, and how she reflects now on her college experience (52:00)
How Kate became a magazine writer and book author (58:00)
Reflecting on Split Image and What Made Maddy Run (1:05:30)
Writing as a therapeutic process (1:19:40)
A day in the life of Kate Fagan (1:22:15)

For more, check out:

What Made Maddy Run by Kate Fagan

All the Colors Came Out by Kate Fagan

The Reappearing Act by Kate Fagan

Ali's TEDxBoston talk

Kate’s TEDxBoston talk

Split Image by Kate Fagan for ESPN

Kara Goucher on Episode 525 of the Ali on the Run Show

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527. Friendship Fest with Emma Bates & Laura Thweatt Jun 14, 2022

"Some of my closest friendships are with women I compete against. So when I see them do the things that they’re doing, it truly makes me believe even more in myself in terms of what’s possible for me."

Welcome to Friendship Fest, Season 2! This seven-week series is all about celebrating friendship on the run. We'll hear from some of our favorite running buddies — from the pros to the everyday runners — about how they met, the role running plays in their friendship, and what big goals and dreams they share for the future.

We're kicking off Season 2 of this series with Boulder-based besties and professional marathoners Laura Thweatt and Emma Bates. They share the story of their first meeting in 2019 ("I decided then and there that Emma Bates was my girl crush," recalls Laura), they talk about how their friendship progressed, and they talk about their time training together as members of Team Boss (which Laura has since left — with Emma's support, of course). Lots of laughter, lots of awwwwws, and lots of inspiration about how best to show up for the important people in your life.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

The extended warm-up round (2:20)
Emma talks about the first time she met Laura (18:50)
The art of adult female friendships (23:20)
Laura’s decision to leave Team Boss — and Emma’s reaction, after having just joined the team (32:00)
Laura recaps her recent win in the citizen’s division at the Bolder Boulder 10K (39:40)
How Emma is feeling heading into World Championships next month (51:30)
All about that post-marathon trip to Hawaii with Molly Seidel (1:01:15)
What Laura and Emma are each like when the other is racing (1:08:20)
Laura and Emma share the moments when they each felt most proud of their friend (1:11:50)

Check out:

Laura Thweatt on Episode 440 of the Ali on the Run Show

Laura Thweatt on Episode 228 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emma Bates on Episode 490 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emma Bates on Episode 444 of the Ali on the Run Show

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526. Ask Ali! Jun 10, 2022

"I’ve tried to get better at knowing that I can’t be everything to everyone. But I do want this to be a place where anyone who feels like they are a part of the running community can find something that they enjoy or that inspires them or motivates them or makes them feel good or teaches them something."

Welcome to Ask Ali, a twice-a-month series where I answer all of your questions. This time around, I'm flying through 37 randomly selected listener questions, sent in via Instagram Stories (I'm @aliontherun1), about everything from house hunting, podcast guest selection, and getting recognized on the run, to staying focused and what a day in the life is like.

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You asked:

Do you get recognized when you’re out and about? (3:00)
How do you stay focused when you’re a multi-passionate person? (5:10)
Was it hard switching from HOKA to New Balance? (8:45)
Has the man from the TED Talk apologized about the Annie situation? (12:15)
Can you make a Peloton hashtag for us? (It exists! Use #FriendsOfAliOTR) (13:15)
How do you come up with series themes? (13:55)
What was your favorite part of your Traverse City trip? (16:15)
How do you decide who to interview? (18:05)
What is the next email that you are going to send? (20:20)
Where do you see yourself in five years? (21:35)
Which race outside the U.S. do you want to go to? (21:50)
If you could offer Annie — 30 years from now — one life nugget, what would it be? (23:15)
What is a day in the life of Ali like? (24:45)
How do you wipe sweat on the run? (30:50)
What is making you excited these days? (31:10)
Any update on the house hunting front? (35:50)
What’s your schedule for releasing episodes right now? (37:15)
What is your favorite dessert? (39:20)
Have you ever done a run streak? (39:40)
What will the next great running invention be? (39:50)
Are you coming back to Michigan next year for Bayshore? (40:00)
Are you going to buy a house? (40:20)
Do you do physical therapy on the regular? (40:25)
How do you vet podcast guests? (41:00)
What is something you want Annie to take from you, and what do you want her to take from Brian? (42:25)
How is your Crohn’s right now? (43:50)
Do you have any lingering “niggles” from your injury? (44:00)
Are you a timeline or specific goal-oriented person? (44:30)
What’s something you do for yourself each day? (44:40)
What is your 5–10-year vision for Ali on the Run? (44:50)
Tips for fitting in runs with a new baby (45:50)
Would you rather deal with chafing or blisters? (47:00)
Favorite season to run (47:15)
Is your Notes app super organized or chaotic? (47:30)
Is Brian a runner? (47:50)
Are we any closer to an Ali on the Run 5K happening? (48:00)
What did your mom get mad at you for most often? (48:05)

Worth mentioning:

My TEDxBoston Experience

Elizabeth Holmes @eholmes

Register for the WineShine Half Marathon! (Code ONTHERUN gets you $25 off!)

Wellness In Motion Boston

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525. Catching Up with Kara Goucher Jun 09, 2022

"It’s been hard to swallow that there is no miracle. It’s going to take time."

It's been nearly one year since Kara Goucher came on the Ali on the Run Show to talk about what it was like being a part of the NBC Sports broadcast team during the Tokyo Olympics. Today, Kara returns with all kinds of updates. In this fun, wide-ranging conversation, Kara talks about how she has gotten more comfortable in her role as an NBC Sports Distance Analyst, and shares her broadcast plans for the summer. She talks about how she's honed her skills, and shares whether she still gets nervous to go live on air. Kara talks candidly about her recent Runner's Dystonia diagnosis, and what that means for her health, her running, and her family. Plus: parenting during difficult times, going through life as a highly sensitive person (same), and the possibility of a Kara Goucher and Des Linden podcast.

SPONSOR: UCAN — Go to ucan.co/ali and use code ALI for 20% off your next UCAN order.

What you’ll get on this episode:

What’s making Kara happy today (3:30)
How Kara’s confidence has grown as a commentator, and how she’s balancing TV jobs and motherhood (4:15)
All about calling the Boston Marathon (18:00)
Are Kara and Des Linden launching a podcast?! (22:10)
An update on Kara’s runners dystonia diagnosis, and what treatment she’s trying now (26:25)
All things motherhood and parenting during difficult times (42:30)

For more, check out:

Kara Goucher on Episode 411 of the Ali on the Run Show

Kara Goucher on Episode 43 of the Ali on the Run Show

Kara Goucher on Episode 86 of the Ali on the Run Show

Kara and Adam Goucher on Episode 208 of the Ali on the Run Show

What Made Maddy Run by Kate Fagan

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524. Beyond the Run with Allie Ostrander Jun 03, 2022

"I really felt strongly that sharing online would not only help hold me accountable to sticking with my goals and my values, but also would help other people to see that it’s really normal to struggle, and it’s OK to seek treatment, it’s OK to seek help. And that even people who have had success don’t necessarily have everything figured out."

The past year hasn't been easy for professional runner Allie Ostrander. After a career that started out with a series of highs — like signing with Brooks, making her first world championships team, and getting to represent Team USA in Doha in 2019 — life lately has been challenging. In this candid conversation, Allie talks about the tough times and how she has gotten through them. She talks about living and dealing with an eating disorder, and about pursuing a treatment program last year before returning to competition at the U.S. Olympic Track & Field Trials, where she made it to the 3000m steeplechase final and ran a personal best. She talks about what life in the recovery program was like, about dealing with recurring injuries, and about how she handles her nerves on and off the track. Plus, how she's fallen back in love with running, racing, and the running community.

SPONSOR: New Balance — Go to newbalance.com/beyondtherun to learn more about how New Balance is supporting conversations around mental wellness in running. (And check out my current favorite pullover, crop top, half-zip top, quilted pullover, and jacket.)

What you’ll get on this episode:

What’s making Allie happy today (4:05)
How Allie got the role of pacer for the Trials of Miles steeplechase and 5K (5:45)
On dealing with race day nerves, and why Allie gets nervous for everyday workouts (14:30)
How Allie recently rediscovered her love for running, racing, and the running community (20:50)
What life looked like last summer for Allie: injuries, eating disorder recovery, and the decision to share it all (23:50)
What it was like leaving the treatment center to compete at the Olympic Track & Field Trials (31:00)
The power of a quick cry in the bathroom (43:00)
Allie’s decision to end her contract with Brooks at the end of last year (45:00)
What Allie’s relationship with her body is like right now (53:00)
What’s next on the racing and coaching front (56:20)
Allie’s advice for people dealing with eating disorders, or people who know someone going through a difficult time (1:02:00)

For more, check out:

Allie Ostrander on Episode 170 of the Ali on the Run Show

Allie Ostrander on Episode 162 of the Ali on the Run Show

Trials of Miles Track Night NYC

“Dear Body, I Love You,” by Allie Ostrander for MileSplit

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523. Tara Davis & Hunter Woodhall, Olympic & Paralympic Power Couple Jun 02, 2022

"There’s a lot of bumps on the way up. And a lot of people see that final moment, the excitement, the emotion that took place. And it was such a genuine and real moment. But it’s all because of the things leading up to that moment."

Tara Davis is an Olympic long jumper. Hunter Woodhall is a Paralympic medalist. With their powers combined, they are the ultimate track and field power couple. And this week, Tara and Hunter announced their new lululemon partnership: The engaged duo are now sponsored by lululemon as Global Ambassadors for the brand. In this conversation, we hear all about how the lululemon deal came to be, and about why this was the perfect fit for Tara and Hunter. The social media savvy couple also talks about what it's like sharing so much of their lives online: Collectively, they have more than 3 million followers on TikTok, 667,000 Instagram followers, and 421,000 YouTube subscribers. Plus, what a day in the life is like for two professional athletes, their love story, wedding planning updates, and what it's been like skyrocketing into the public eye after last summer's U.S. Olympic Track & Field Team Trials.

SPONSOR: UCAN — Go to ucan.co/ali and use code ALI for 20% off your next UCAN order.

What you’ll get on this episode:

All about the lululemon partnership (4:35)
What a day in the life of Tara and Hunter is like (9:50)
Tara and Hunter talk about what their new race kits will look like, and what training has been like lately (11:40)
The love story: Tara and Hunter met, started dating, and eventually got engaged (18:15)
All about Tara and Hunter, content creators (26:45)
What it was like skyrocketing to fame after last summer’s U.S. Olympic Track & Field Trials (31:35)
How Hunter has saved Tara’s life, in her words (44:40)
Tara’s a-ha moment, when she realized her role in the sport (48:00)
What’s next? (50:40)
Wedding planning updates! (53:55)

For more, check out:

YouTube: Tara & Hunter in NYC

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522. LIVE with Des Linden at the Bayshore Marathon May 31, 2022

"What do I love most? I want to fricken win. And I want to hurt. And I want to see how fast I can go."

What a treat to get to host a live show with the legendary Des Linden this weekend at the Chateau Chantal winery as part of the Bayshore Marathon festivities in Traverse City, MI. Des has been on the show a lot — six times, to be exact — so the goal with this show was to try and learn something new about everyone's favorite runner. And? Mission accomplished. We played an opening game of Would You Rather. We got to know Little Kid Des, Teen Des, College Des (and Beer Mile Des), AOL Instant Messenger Des, and the Des who lives with a chip on her shoulder. We talked about how Des got into broadcasting, and what her TV plans look like for 2022, and talked about her racing plans, including the upcoming B.A.A. 10K and what she's eyeing for the fall. She shared her Boston Marathon 2022 takeaways, talked about dealing with a sports hernia injury, and reflected on her first-ever marathon (the good, bad, and ugly). Plus: the most fun Des has ever had during a race, whether she actually throws back a bourbon after every race, the race where she says everything clicked for her, and what she says is "the best racing advice" for every runner.

For more, check out:

Bayshore Marathon

Chateau Chantal

Word by Word

Listen to Des on the Ali on the Run Show:

Episode 462

Episode 363

Episode 205: Love on the Run with Des & Ryan Linden

Emily Saul on Episode 510 of the Ali on the Run Show

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521. Beyond the Run with Ali Feller, TEDxBoston Speaker May 20, 2022

"It felt important to me. And so I sent the email. I took my own advice, and I sent the email."

On Monday, I had the honor of giving a TED talk. In this episode, I'm talking all about my experience speaking at TEDxBoston's "Epic Strides" event, celebrating women in sport and the 50-year anniversary of the passing of Title IX. I share how I got this opportunity, my hesitations, and how it went. Plus, I share the talk itself.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How I got the opportunity to be a TEDx speaker (2:00)
On figuring out what to talk about (11:00)
The rehearsal and preparation process (15:00)
The week of TEDxBoston (23:00)
Why I got really stressed the night before the event (38:00)
My TED talk! (53:20)

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Emily Saul & Ian Nurse on Episode 474 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emily Saul on Episode 59 of the Ali on the Run Show

What Made Maddy Run by Kate Fagan

Alexandra Angelone: TEDxBoston Hair & Makeup Artist

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520. Saila Consalvi, 13-Time Marathoner with Lung Cancer May 19, 2022

"From the start, it was like, I’m gonna deal with this, but I’m not going to let this take over. I’m not going to let it take my life away. I’m not going to let it take my happiness away. So I do it, and I deal with it, and some days are really tough, but I still want to live my life."

In January, 13-time marathoner Saila Consalvi was told she'd be lucky if she could watch this year's Boston Marathon, let alone run it. And yet, four months later, she defied expectation: She completed the 2022 Boston Marathon. In this conversation, Saila talks about what it took to complete her third Boston Marathon, and about her road to the start line, which hasn't been easy. In 2017, Saila was 35 years old and had just completed her ninth marathon and her first Ironman. She was in the best shape of her life. But soon, things just felt...off. Then, she was diagnosed with Stage IV non-small cell lung cancer. Today, Saila — who is from Finland — lives in Denver, CO, with her husband and their four-month-old son, Enzo.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Why Saila ran Boston with “Sally” on her shirt (3:40)
Saila’s story about running Boston with Peloton instructor Jess Sims (6:00)
Saila’s Boston Marathon recap (8:00)
Saila’s advice for runners who are raising money for charity (14:20)
How Saila got into running (16:35)
Saila’s lung cancer diagnosis (24:00)
On fear, and adjusting to life with cancer (37:30)
How Saila remains optimistic in the face of so much bad news (52:00)
How Saila found the strength to get to the Boston Marathon start line (56:50)

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Jess Sims on Episode 516 of the Ali on the Run Show

"My Beauty Uniform: Saila Hanninen," via Cup of Jo

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519. Steph Bruce, 2022 Boston Marathon Recap May 13, 2022

"Let’s just go out with a bang."

Steph Bruce finished 12th at this year's Boston Marathon. The professional runner for HOKA NAZ Elite ran a 2:28, and while it wasn't her fastest time at the 26.2-mile distance, Steph says Boston 2022 ranks up there as one of her best and favorite marathons. And this year's race was unique for Steph: It's her last year competing as a professional athlete. Last year, Steph was diagnosed with a congenital heart condition, and that discovery forced her to start making some tough choices. She decided that 2022 would be her last year running professionally — and that she would go out with a celebration. Steph is calling this year her "Grit Finale," and she's taking fans along for the ride. (Check out her Boston recap on YouTube here.) In this conversation, Steph talks all about that life-changing diagnosis, about her Boston training, about race day, and about her thoughts on life after professional running. As always, an open, honest, candid conversation with one of the sport's most-loved athletes.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Steph is feeling post-Boston (4:00)
All about “The Grit Finale,” and the life-changing diagnosis that led to Steph’s last professional year on the run (6:20)
What Steph needed to include in her last year of racing (17:30)
How Steph was feeling heading into her last Boston Marathon (20:40)
Steph recaps her Boston training, and why (and how!) she makes racing a family affair (23:55)
Steph’s feelings of imposter syndrome early in her career, and how she feels now (29:00)
Steph’s story from the church (31:25)
How Steph was feeling on the start line, and how the race played out (33:00)
Making the move at mile 22 (46:00)
The Grit Finale finale (50:45)
Steph’s thoughts on her legacy (55:00)

For more, check out:

Steph Bruce on Episode 104 of the Ali on the Run Show

Steph & Ben Bruce on Episode 206 of the Ali on the Run Show

Steph Bruce on Episode 354 of the Ali on the Run Show

Steph Bruce on Episode 371 of the Ali on the Run Show

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518. Shalane Flanagan, 2022 Boston Marathon Recap May 12, 2022

"It takes a lot to get to a start line. I never take that for granted."

Shalane Flanagan has run the Boston Marathon six times: four times as a professional athlete; once as a retired pro, the day after racing the Chicago Marathon; and now, as a guide. Shalane is a four-time Olympian, an Olympic silver medalist, and the 2017 New York City Marathon champion. She is a coach, a New York Times best-selling cookbook author, and a mom to two-year-old Jack. After racing the Boston Marathon in the fall as part of Project Eclipse, Shalane returned to Boston this year — and it was different than any other time she had run the race. Because this time, Shalane's race wasn't about the pursuit of a podium or a personal best. She ran the race as Adrianne Haslet's coach and guide in the para athletics division. In this conversation, Shalane talks about coaching Adrianne, about her own training for this race, and about her goals as Adrianne's guide. She shares her favorite memories from the course, and talks about what's next both on and off the run.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Shalane’s memories of meeting Adrianne Haslet (4:10)
Shalane’s history with the Boston Marathon (6:15)
Shalane’s most profound memory from this year’s Boston Marathon (10:30)
On experiencing running a marathon in the middle of the pack (17:30)
All about the crowds from Hopkinton to Boston (21:00)
What it was like coaching Adrianne for Boston (25:45)
What Shalane’s Boston training was like (30:00)
The race plan (37:00)
How Shalane kept the focus on Adrianne on race day (41:55)
Shalane’s favorite parts of the Boston Marathon course, and what the finish line was like (47:30)
The toughest parts of the day (51:50)
Shalane’s top Boston memories from over the years (54:20)
What hasn’t Shalane done? (58:25)
How Shalane fit this experience into her life (1:00:20)
The weight of the past year and a half (1:04:20)

For more, check out:

Adrianne Haslet on Episode 514 of the Ali on the Run Show

Adrianne Haslet on Episode 506 of the Ali on the Run Show

Adrianne Haslet on Episode 192 of the Ali on the Run Show

Shalane Flanagan on Episode 462 of the Ali on the Run Show

Shalane Flanagan on Episode 438 of the Ali on the Run Show

Shalane Flanagan on Episode 242 of the Ali on the Run Show

Mary Kate Shea on Episode 247 of the Ali on the Run Show

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517. Beyond the Run with Carrie Jackson, Mental Performance Coach May 06, 2022

"We know you can push through. We know you’re capable of that. A sign of your mental toughness isn’t pushing through — it’s can I hold back?"

On March 5, I went out for a 13.1-mile run. A few miles into the run, my lower left leg started to hurt. I cut the run short and limped home. By that night, I could barely walk. I was dealing with my first real running injury. Two months later, I'm back on the run — but I never received an official diagnosis, I'm a bit trepidatious about running again, and I'm overwhelmed trying to remember how I even fit running into my life pre-injury. I thought I would be itching to get back on the run, but I'm...not?

Enter Carrie Jackson.

Carrie is a certified mental performance consultant with a Master's degree in sports psychology. She's the author of On Top of Your Game: Mental Skills to Maximize Your Athletic Performance, and co-author of Rebound: Train Your Mind to Bounce Back Stronger from Sports Injuries. She and Rebound co-author Cindy Kuzma also host The Injured Athletes Club podcast (and check out their Facebook group).

This conversation is akin to a live therapy session with Carrie, where I'm the patient. If you've ever wondered what it's like working with a sports psychologist or mental performance coach, consider this an intro for all of us. (And I'm thrilled to report that this past weekend, I raced a 5K, had a blast, and am slowly starting to feel reinvigorated about running.)

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516. Jess Sims, 2022 Boston Marathon Recap May 05, 2022

"She said, ‘This is how it was supposed to be. This is how it was supposed to feel.’ And at that moment, I realized the magnitude of what we gave to each other."

Fan favorite Jess Sims is back — and this time, she returns to the Ali on the Run Show as a marathoner! On April 18, the beloved Peloton instructor surprised the world by showing up at the start (and finish!) line of the Boston Marathon. And she had a good reason for keeping her marathon debut on the down-low. In this very special conversation, Jess talks about receiving a fateful message from Boston Marathon bombing survivor Michele Blackburn last December — a message that ultimately guided Jess every step of the way toward that finish line on Boylston Street. Jess talks about her training, about how she felt on the start line, and about why she still feels marathon imposter syndrome, even after earning that blue and yellow medal. (You'll want tissues on hand 17 minutes into this one. You've been warned.)

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Jess is celebrating — her dog’s birthday, that is (4:40)
All about that fateful message from Michele Blackburn (6:25)
What happened after Jess committed to running the Boston Marathon, and what her training was like (23:30)
Why Jess kept her Boston Marathon plans a secret (34:50)
Why Jess gets nervous talking about her marathon experience (42:15)
How Jess was feeling when she arrived in Boston (46:00)
The ride to the start line (50:00)
What it was like running the 2022 Boston Marathon (56:00)
On seeing Michele at the finish line (1:01:45)
The physical and emotional recovery (1:05:30)
Running with Usain Bolt! (1:16:35)

For more, check out:

Jess Sims on Episode 261 of the Ali on the Run Show

Kirsten Ferguson on Episode 505 of the Ali on the Run Show

Becs Gentry on Episode 379 of the Ali on the Run Show

Matt Wilpers on Episode 398 of the Ali on the Run Show

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515. Lottie Bildirici, Author of Running on Veggies May 02, 2022

"It was the fear of the unknown — but that was what I loved also. I don’t want to do something I know I could finish or know I could do. I want to do this thing that’s going to be really hard… and there was no stopping me."

At 14 years old, Lottie Bildirici — a lifelong New Yorker — went from being a happy-go-lucky high schooler to a cancer patient. A lump on her neck turned out to be Hodgkin's Lymphoma, and Lottie immediately began chemotherapy treatments. She was the sick kid. But as she recovered physically (and was given a cancer-free diagnosis!), Lottie realized she had lost her identity. Who was she without cancer? And it was running that helped her redefine herself. Lottie completed a half-marathon at Disney World, and a passion for the sport was immediately ignited. She started learning more about health and nutrition — but soon lost her way. In this conversation, Lottie talks about growing up in the kitchen, and about how a love for food led her down a scary path with orthorexia and recurring stress fractures. She talks about creating her blog and Instagram account, Running on Veggies, and about working with professional athletes including Kara Goucher and Stephanie Bruce. Today, Lottie is a nutrition coach for adidas, she's an Ironman triathlete (she completed her first Ironman on the 10-year anniversary of her cancer diagnosis), and she's a published author. Her first cookbook, Running on Veggies, came out earlier this year.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What Lottie had for breakfast today, and how she’s celebrating life right now (6:10)
Lottie’s love for cooking (8:00)
On writing a cookbook (10:30)
What life was like for Lottie in high school, when she received a life-changing diagnosis (12:00)
How Lottie started running, and her experience with orthorexia and recurring stress fractures (23:15)
How Lottie started working with professional athletes including Kara Goucher and Stephanie Bruce (35:25)
What it’s like when Lottie works one-on-one with clients (39:50)
Lottie’s food philosophy (43:00)
Lottie’s job with adidas, and what a day in the life of Lottie Bildirici looks like (45:00)
Lottie’s decision to complete an Ironman on the 10-year anniversary of her cancer diagnosis (48:15)
The role running plays in Lottie’s life right now (55:00)

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Jonathan Cane on Episode 313 of the Ali on the Run Show

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514. Adrianne Haslet, 2022 Boston Marathon Recap Apr 28, 2022

“I can close my eyes still and remember every sign and every person’s face and every dog. I can remember all of it. It was a true unicorn of a day.”

Adrianne Haslet went through hell to get to the start line of the 2022 Boston Marathon. But she got there. And then, she started in Hopkinton and ran 26.2 miles — with guide Shalane Flanagan by her side every step of the way — to cross the finish line on Boylston Street. Adrianne and Shalane finished the race in 5:18:14, coming in fourth place in the para athletics division. Today, Adrianne returns to the Ali on the Run Show to share every detail of what she calls the best day of her life. ("It sounded like a Rocky movie the whole way," she says.) Plus, Adrianne's favorite moments from the course, all about that finish line feeling, and what "Boston Strong" means to her.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Adrianne’s Boston Marathon expectations — and how reality compared (3:00)
How Adrianne is recovering after Boston, and who’s in her village (6:15)
How Adrianne spent her weekend leading up to Marathon Monday (13:50)
All about race morning (27:40)
Adrianne’s stories from the church in Hopkinton (34:50)
Adrianne and Shalane’s race plan (44:30)
The start line and the early miles (46:30)
All about the support along the way (53:05)
On making it to the Boston Marathon finish line (1:04:10)
What does Boston Strong mean to Adrianne? (1:07:00)

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Adrianne Haslet on Episode 506 of the Ali on the Run Show

Adrianne Haslet on Episode 192 of the Ali on the Run Show

Adrianne Haslet in the Washington Post

Cortney White on Episode 447 of the Ali on the Run Show

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513. Nell Rojas, 2022 Boston Marathon Recap Apr 25, 2022

"This is the time in my life where I’m trying to do whatever I can to be the fastest I can and get the furthest in running that I can. So anything that is not working toward that goal just doesn’t make any sense."

For the second year in row, professional marathoner Nell Rojas had a big day in Boston. She finished 10th overall at the 126th Boston Marathon, running a personal best (2:25:57), and finishing as the top U.S. woman in the field. In this conversation, Nell talks Boston beyond the numbers. She talks about the pre-race press conference and about breaking some big news before the race: After signing with adidas earlier this year, Nell recently ended that partnership in favor of racing in shoes that she felt better suited her body. She talks about that difficult decision, and about how it weighed on her during her Boston build-up. Plus, she talks about her pre-race routine, about how the race played out, and about what's next.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

All about Nell’s Boston buildup (4:30)
The Boston Marathon press conference experience (8:40)
Nell talks about sponsorship stuff (11:00)
How Nell decided what to wear on the run (17:40)
Nell’s goals for this year’s Boston Marathon (20:15)
How the race played out (26:30)
How this year’s race compared to Boston 2021 (29:30)
Nell’s pre-race routine (33:30)
What the later miles in the race were like (37:20)
Nell’s High / Low / High from Marathon Monday (42:35)
What happens after the finish line (46:10)
What’s next on the sponsorship front and beyond (49:40)

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Nell Rojas & Hiruni Wijayaratne on Episode 484 of the Ali on the Run Show

Nell Rojas on Episode 434 of the Ali on the Run Show

Nell Rojas on Episode 431 of the Ali on the Run Show

Nell Rojas on Episode 229 of the Ali on the Run Show

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512. Beyond the Run with Tunde Oyeneyin Apr 22, 2022

"When our smartphones are at 10 percent, we panic. We freak out… When our bodies are running on 10 percent, when our headspace is running on 10 percent, why don’t we have that same sense of urgency to look for an outlet, to recharge? We keep going. We allow ourselves to fully deplete before we ask to borrow a charger."

Peloton instructor — and newly published author — Tunde Oyeneyin returns to the Ali on the Run Show today. In this conversation, Tunde reflects on how her life has changed since she was last on the show in December 2020. Her Peloton classes are now taken by hundreds of thousands of people. She has amassed more than 520,000 followers on Instagram. She's the face of Revlon, and the host of the Fitness Flipped podcast. And her first book, Speak, comes out next month. Today, Tunde talks about her running journey: why she runs, when she craves a run, and what keeps her running. Plus, she offers advice on boundary setting, saying no ("Every time I say no to someone, I feel myself getting my power back"), getting unstuck, and so much more.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Tunde Oyeneyin, podcast host! (3:55)
What mental wellness means to Tunde, and how she has learned to say no and set boundaries (8:30)
Tunde’s running journey (18:50)
The downsides to all the good stuff (27:30)
All about Tunde’s new book, Speak (32:00)
Tunde’s advice for how to find your voice (40:00)
How to get un-stuck, and how to figure out what’s next (43:50)
How Tunde recharges (53:00)

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Tunde Oyeneyin on Episode 311 of the Ali on the Run Show

Kirsten Ferguson on Episode 505 of the Ali on the Run Show

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511. My 2022 Boston Marathon Experience Apr 21, 2022

“This weekend I was like, ‘I just want to be me, and see where I can go with that. I don’t want to conform. I don’t want to turn off who I am to fit into the existing landscape.’”

After 1,099 days, the Boston Marathon was back on Patriots Day! And I was there! On this episode, I'm talking (for a very long time) all about my weekend in Boston, where I hosted a live show with Tracksmith (listen to it here), was the post-race on-camera interviewer for the world feed broadcast (!!!), and made my Boston Marathon finish line announcing debut. It was a nonstop weekend filled with great people, exciting events, and a big leap out of my comfort zone and onto live (global!) television. So before we get into the interviews with people who ran the race (Nell Rojas and Adrianne Haslet, coming next week!), here's my recap of the 2022 Boston Marathon from the sidelines, the media trucks, the finish line, and the photo bridge.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

All about Friday fun: press conferences, The TRACK at New Balance, and more (4:40)
The Saturday sessions: B.A.A. 5K spectating, introverting, Tracksmith live show, and more (23:15)
Easter Sunday celebrations: running and family time (37:00)
How I got these jobs (41:15)
Behind the scenes of the broadcast prep work (48:20)
All about Marathon Monday! (57:20)
Listener Q&A (1:20:20)

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Jacky Broersma on Episode 504 of the Ali on the Run Show

Erin Azar on Episode 446 of the Ali on the Run Show

Jenna Fesemyer on Episode 508 of the Ali on the Run Show

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510. LIVE at the Boston Marathon with Emily Saul & Anoush Arakelian Apr 17, 2022

Boston is BACK! It was such a privilege to get to host a live recording of the Ali on the Run Show at the Tracksmith Trackhouse during the 2022 Boston Marathon weekend, with the ever-delightful recent podcast guests Anoush Arakelian and Emily Saul. This conversation was filled with great advice, hilarious stories, and — because why not? — dating talk. Thank you to Tracksmith for hosting us; thank you to Emily and Anoush for the wit, wisdom, and laughter; and thank you to everyone who joined and was part of the fun!

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509. Ask Ali with Guest Host Laura Green Apr 15, 2022

“The people who read my blog and supported me — whether we met in real life or from afar — they saved my life on my worst days.”

Laura Green is a runner, a mom to two boys, and a dear friend — and today, she’s a podcast host! On this edition of Ask Ali, returning Ali on the Run Show guest Laura is here to do all the question asking, reading your questions from Instagram (and coming up with a few of her own). We do a chronological Ali deep dive, from the college days, to the pre-podcast blogging days, to life today with a 3.5-year-old.

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Laura asks:

The warm-up round (3:30)
“Pre-podcast Ali” questions (10:40)
Podcast-related questions (27:00)
Parenting questions (42:00)

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Laura Green on Episode 157 of the Ali on the Run Show

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Tracksmith Allston Bra

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508. Jenna Fesemyer, Team USA Wheelchair Athlete Apr 14, 2022

"Doctors said when I was born that I would be the last one to sit up, the last one to crawl, the last one to stand and walk. Well, I was the first to do all those things."

Jenna Fesemyer was born with a birth defect called proximal femoral focal deficiency, where one leg is shorter than the other. At one year old, she had her foot amputated. And she immediately defied her doctors' expectations. As a teenager, she discovered wheelchair racing, and now, she's a Paralympian who represented Team USA in Tokyo last summer. (The Paralympic marathon was just the beginning of Jenna's fall marathon season: She then raced the London, Chicago, Boston, and New York City Marathons.) This weekend, Jenna heads to Boston where she will race in the professional women's wheelchair division in both the B.A.A. 5K on Saturday and the Boston Marathon on Monday. Jenna is sponsored by Oiselle, and she is currently studying education policy at the University of Illinois (and she'll begin her doctorate program in the fall!).

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What’s making Jenna happy right now (3:50)
All about wheelchair racing and training safety (4:45)
Jenna’s plans for Boston Marathon weekend, and why she’s able to race so frequently (7:20)
Reflecting on the 2021 Boston Marathon (16:30)
All about Jenna’s childhood, and living with proximal femoral focal deficiency (20:10)
How Jenna got into wheelchair racing (24:40)
Jenna explains her positioning in her chair (32:30)
Jenna’s Paralympic dreams, and the choices and sacrifices she has had to make to pursue them (34:20)
How Jenna became a Oiselle-sponsored athlete (41:20)
What Jenna wishes people understood about adaptive athletes (43:00)
How to spot Jenna at the Boston Marathon (51:50)

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507. Friendship Fest with Silvana Morgan and Yuma Haidara Apr 12, 2022

"She’s my person."

Silvana Morgan is a nurse, a runner, and a mom to two daughters. A few years ago, she was running a race when she saw a fellow runner up ahead wearing "a really cute outfit." But when the course split — half marathoners to the left, other race distances to the right — Silvana, who is from Brazil and says she's now living her dream with her family in New Hampshire, didn't get a chance to meet that runner and tell her she liked her outfit. That runner, it turned out, was commercial truck driver, marathoner, and outdoor enthusiast Yuma Haidara. Later that day, Yuma posted about her race in New Hampshire's She Runs This Town Facebook group. Silvana saw the post, recognized the woman in the photo as the woman from the race, and a friendship was born. The two — now best friends — have been inseparable ever since. This is their friendship story.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Yuma and Silvana met (4:20)
What it was like when Yuma and Silvana met in person for the first time (7:40)
On running and racing together, and Silvana’s tips for stroller running (10:25)
How Silvana started running (12:45)
How Yuma knew her friendship with Silvana was special (15:00)
What Silvana’s childhood was like growing up in Brazil (16:30)
All about Yuma’s 2021 New York City Marathon race — in a pair of Oofos sandals (19:20)
Silvana’s road to becoming a nurse (27:30)
What’s next on the run for Yuma and Silvana? (31:00)
All about the Mount Washington Road Race — where “there’s only one hill” (39:30)
How work is going for Yuma and Silvana (46:00)
All about Yuma’s Oofos commercial! (48:50)
All about Silvana and Yuma’s matching racing outfits (54:00)
Pride (1:00:30)

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Great Bay Half Marathon

Home Base Program

She Runs This Town

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506. Beyond the Run with Adrianne Haslet Apr 08, 2022

“What will get us to the finish line is nothing compared to what got us to the start.”

In 2013, professional ballroom dancer Adrianne Haslet was walking near the Boston Marathon finish line when the bombs went off. She lost her leg that day, standing on Boylston Street. Then, in 2019, Adrianne — who had become a runner herself after her lower leg amputation — was walking on Commonwealth Ave. when she was hit by a car. Even in the face of so much unexpected adversity, Adrianne hasn't lost her fighting spirit. She's a survivor, an advocate, an inspiration — and on Monday, April 18, she'll return to both Comm Ave. and Boylston Street, but this time it will be en route to her own marathon finish. Adrianne will be racing in the Boston Marathon's para division alongside friend and official guide Shalane Flanagan. In this conversation, Adrianne talks about training under Shalane's guidance, about how she's feeling with race day just a week and a half away, and about what she's doing now to prepare for the potential post-marathon blues. She also talks about the emotional component of running a race that she has such a heavy history with, and about what she pictures when she imagines her finish line moment.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Adrianne is feeling with less than two weeks to go until the Boston Marathon, and reflections on this training cycle (6:00)
On returning to Boston after DNF-ing the 2018 race (11:00)
What it’s been like moving during marathon training, and how Adrianne met her boyfriend, Harry (15:30)
All about Adrianne’s running leg (23:00)
How Adrianne and Shalane Flanagan met and became friends (25:15)
What it’s like being coached by Shalane (34:20)
The low and high points from Boston 2022 training (43:25)
How the weather affects Adrianne’s leg (57:30)
The mental and emotional components of returning to the Boston Marathon (59:00)
All about Adrianne’s upcoming IMAX film (1:02:55)
Adrianne’s guide to Boston (1:10:00)

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Adrianne Haslet on Episode 192 of the Ali on the Run Show

Shalane Flanagan on Episode 438 of the Ali on the Run Show

Shalane Flanagan on Episode 242 of the Ali on the Run Show

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505. Kirsten Ferguson, Peloton Tread Instructor Apr 07, 2022

“There was a moment where I looked at myself in the mirror and said, ‘Whoa, this is what you’re meant to do. This is it.’”

Kirsten Ferguson is living her dream. She once wrote "Become a Peloton instructor" on a Post-It note, and today she's doing exactly that. (And she still has the manifestation-filled Post-It.) The Peloton Tread instructor is a single mom of two, and the road to this dream life hasn't been an easy one. Kirsten grew up with aspirations of working in the fashion industry. But when she enrolled at the Fashion Institute of Technology, she quickly realized that she wanted to do something completely different. She ended up getting a job working in sponsorships with the NFL, where she worked for seven years before leaving and having children. Along the way, Kirsten suffered two miscarriages. That's when she found fitness. Kirsten leaned into cycling classes during her darkest, most isolating, and most challenging days. On their third try, Kirsten got — and stayed — pregnant. In this conversation, she's honest about what new motherhood was like for her, and about what happened when she had just become a fitness instructor and was going through a separation when the pandemic hit. She talks about how she got the Peloton job and about how she became a runner, about creating the "Ratchet Mom Club," about being at the Super Bowl for Beyoncé's epic halftime show, and about why she welcomes fear into her life.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Kirsten’s latest Peloton class came together (5:45)
Why Kirsten takes her own classes (7:50)
What Young Kirsten was like (10:40)
On going to the Fashion Institute of Technology — and then having a change of heart and working for the NFL (13:00)
Kirsten’s road to motherhood (22:50)
How Kirsten found fitness (29:30)
What new motherhood was like for Kirsten (35:30)
How Kirsten found her purpose (40:45)
How Kirsten overcame her fear of public speaking (49:15)
On getting the Peloton job, and what happened next (50:50)
What does a Peloton producer do? (58:30)
All about the Ratchet Mom Club (1:01:40)
On learning to call herself a runner (1:05:00)

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Fear is my Homeboy by Judi Holler

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504. Jacky Hunt-Broersma, Running 100 Marathons in 100 Days Apr 05, 2022

"I’m tired. But I’m feeling pretty good. I’ve got a job to do and I need to do it and that’s kind of it. I’m on a mission. I just need to get it done."

Jacky Hunt-Broersma is on a quest to run 100 marathons in 100 days. That's 26.2 miles every single day for 100 days straight, while raising money for Amputee Blade Runners. We recorded this episode together at 8 AM on Day 75. Jacky — a running coach and ultramarathoner whose next goal is the Moab 240 Endurance Run — had just gotten her two kids off to school, and was getting ready for marathon number 75. In this conversation, we get to know the Jacky today, who is more than 3/4 of the way through her record-setting challenge. And we get to know the 26-year-old Jacky from 2001, who woke up one day with a golf ball-sized mass on her leg. She was diagnosed with Ewing sarcoma, a rare cancer, and had her leg amputated just weeks after the diagnosis. It wasn't until 15 years later that Jacky started running, and she says her only regret is that she didn't start sooner. In this conversation, Jacky talks about the highest (running with her daughter!) and lowest (Day 35) points of this 100-marathon challenge, about dealing with mom guilt along the way, and about her plans for marathon #92, which she'll run in the para division of the Boston Marathon.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Jacky was feeling at 8 AM on Day 75, and her plan for the day (5:20)
How Jacky got through an especially tough run recently (9:50)
Jacky’s running must-haves (16:00)
How Jacky is feeling emotionally (17:40)
All about the recovery process during this adventure (19:40)
How Jacky is involving her children and family in this process (23:00)
Jacky’s cancer story, and how she found running (25:50)
Learning to run with a running blade (39:20)
All about Jacky’s 100 marathons in 100 days challenge (44:00)
Jacky’s plans for the Boston Marathon, and for marathon #100 (51:00)
Jacky’s most memorable marathons so far — and the day that “nearly broke her” (53:15)

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503. Dominique Scott Efurd, Two-Time Olympian & Atlanta Women's 5K Champion Apr 01, 2022

“I said, ‘You definitely have this win. Don’t be so scared anymore.'”

Last weekend, two-time Olympian Dominique Scott Efurd won the first-ever elite division at the Atlanta Women's 5K. And while it may have been her first time breaking the tape this year, Dom's 2022 is off to a solid start. In January, she finished third at the Houston Half Marathon. Then, she finished second at The TEN. And this weekend, she'll race the Cooper River Bridge Run. In this conversation — Dom's first time back on the show since late 2020 — Dom talks about her recent races, about the challenging start to 2021, which included a tibial stress reaction and a case of Covid, and about her experience representing Team South Africa at the Tokyo Olympics last summer. Dom is sponsored by adidas, and she lives in Boulder, CO, where she trains with Team Boss.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How it felt to break the tape at the Atlanta Women’s 5K (5:30)
On being the race starter at the Atlanta Women’s 5K (13:45)
All about that 5K in Atlanta (16:00)
How Dom is feeling heading into the Cooper River Bridge Run 10K (23:15)
On finishing second at The TEN (24:30)
Dom talks about the tough times she’s faced over the past two years (40:00)
What Dom remembers most from the Tokyo Olympics, and recapping the Houston Half Marathon (47:00)
Dom’s marathon dreams (1:04:40)
All about the social media side of the sport (1:08:40)

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502. Venus Morris Griffin, As Seen on Humans of New York Mar 31, 2022

“I’ve just been struggling to survive. To figure out how to survive. I want people to see me and say, ‘OK, let’s not look at what we think people are.’ Because everybody has their own struggles. Life is tough!”

Earlier this month, I found myself glued to my phone, rabidly refreshing the Humans of New York Instagram account, waiting for updates in the 13-part story about a woman in Augusta, GA. The woman was Venus Morris Griffin. Today, she's a hugely successful realtor and mom of seven. But the road to becoming one of Meybohm Real Estate's leading agents (Venus has closed more than $500 million in sales she she started with the agency) has been anything but easy. In fact, it still isn't easy, Venus says.

In this conversation, Venus talks about her difficult childhood, about falling in love with a man at USC, and about having six children together. She talks about being home with the kids — the youngest was just one year old, and the oldest was 15 — while her husband was away on a work trip, and getting a call in the middle of the night from a sex worker. A call that changed everything. Not only was Venus's husband, Tripp, sleeping with sex workers, Venus also learned that there was sexual abuse within the home. Today, Tripp is serving a 45-year sentence for child molestation. Here, Venus talks about how she kept moving forward, how she showed up for her children and for herself, and why she started running to get through it all. Plus, she talks about what it was like having her story shared widely through Humans of New York, and both the amazing (a book! a movie!) and less-amazing (losing clients and sales) responses.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Venus is celebrating her 50th birthday (5:20)
All about being featured on Humans of New York (8:00)
On vulnerability, and how Venus started running (15:15)
What Venus’s childhood was like (21:20)
Meeting Tripp (23:30)
The role of faith in Venus’s life (31:40)
The scary moments in Venus and Tripp’s marriage, and why Venus decided to get her real estate license in 2008 (33:50)
The middle-of-the-night phone call that changed everything (43:00)
What life looked like after Tripp went to prison (52:30)
How Venus navigated motherhood (1:02:40)

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501. Friendship Fest with Dinée Dorame & Mario Fraioli Mar 29, 2022

“I could tell he wasn’t mentoring me because he wanted it to be this public thing that made him look good. I wasn’t his charity case.”

Dinée Dorame had a dream: to launch a podcast that would explore the intersection between running, land, community and culture. So she applied for the first-ever Tracksmith Fellowship program — and she won. Dinée was one of the first recipients of a Tracksmith Fellowship grant, which gave her the support she needed to bring the Grounded podcast into existence. She was also paired with a mentor: Mario Fraioli, host of The Morning Shakeout podcast and creator of The Morning Shakeout newsletter. Dinée and Mario started as total strangers, formed a fast mentor-mentee relationship, and now, one year later, are close friends with a "big brother, little sister" bond. In this conversation, they talk about their first phone call, the first time they met in real life, and how their differences have made their relationship stronger.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Dinée and Mario became paired together as mentor-mentee through the Tracksmith Fellowship (5:20)
All about Dinée and Mario’s first phone call (15:15)
How a phone call became a friendship (26:10)
On podcast rejection! (37:00)
Dinée and Mario share the moments when they felt especially proud of each other (44:00)
On finally getting to meet in real life (48:00)
All about Common Ground (55:00)

For more, check out:

Dinée Dorame on Episode 402 of the Ali on the Run Show

Dinée Dorame on Episode 239 of the Ali on the Run Show

Mario Fraioli on Episode 266 of the Ali on the Run Show

Lauren Fleshman on The Morning Shakeout

Dinée Dorame on The Morning Shakeout

Billy Mills on the Grounded podcast

Ali Feller on The Morning Shakeout

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500. Beyond the Run with Elle Purrier St. Pierre Mar 25, 2022

“It was pretty tough, I’m not gonna lie. I walked off the track pretty mad. I didn’t want to talk to any cameras, so I walked past the camera people because I knew they were just going to drill me with a bunch of questions that I didn’t want to talk about. And I hadn’t even had time to digest it myself. So I was about to say something I probably shouldn’t have on camera. So I said, ‘I’m making this boundary for myself,’ and I kept walking.”

Elle Purrier St. Pierre is one of the fastest women in the country. The professional New Balance athlete just capped off her indoor season by earning a silver medal in the 3K at World Indoor Championships in Serbia. In 2020, she broke the American record in the indoor mile. Then, last summer, she won the 1500m event at the U.S. Olympic Track & Field Team Trials (and set a Trials record for that event), solidifying her spot on Team USA and achieving a lifelong dream of becoming an Olympian. Elle — widely known as a small-town farm girl from Vermont — is living the professional runner dream, right? On this episode, Elle talks about the tough times. She talks about getting shoved off the track just seconds into that 1500 final at the Trials, and about how she rallied to win the race. She talks about handling disappointment on the track, like when she finished third in the 1500 at USAs a few weeks ago, a race she was heavily favored to win. And she talks about that — about being "heavily favored," and what that pressure feels like. Plus, reflections on competing in Tokyo, dealing with the post-Olympics blues, and pre-race bad moods. Welcome to Episode 500 of the Ali on the Run Show!

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What you’ll get on this episode:

All about Elle’s run today, and what it’s like being a local celebrity in Vermont (3:50)
Where Elle’s keeping her silver medal, and what her goals were for the 3K at World Indoor Championships (8:45)
How Elle stays tough when the racing gets hard, and what she’s like before the race starts (11:20)
On getting shoved off the track at last summer’s Olympic Track & Field Trials 1500m final (16:00)
Dealing with high stakes (22:00)
How Elle navigated an injury heading into the Olympics (29:30)
What Elle remembers most from the Tokyo Olympics (35:00)
On dealing with the post-Olympics blues (40:30)
What farm life is like for Elle (42:45)
How Elle prepares and re-sets for a new racing season, and what it’s like going into each race as “the favorite” (45:15)
On dealing with disappointment after finishing third at USA Indoors and missing out on Team USA for that distance — and coming back to win the 3K (49:00)
On being asked “What’s next?” all the time (59:30)
The most fun Elle has ever had on the run (1:02:15)

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Elle Purrier on Episode 210 of the Ali on the Run Show

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499. Laura Skladzinski, Theater Kid Turned 100-Time Marathoner Mar 24, 2022

“I got off the plane, looked out at the mountains, and just felt this sense of relaxation. Like this is where I’m supposed to be, this is where life is good. And it made no sense!”

Laura Skladzinski was a dancer and theater kid growing up. She, like many of us, hated having to run the mile in gym class. Then, at 24 years old, Laura became the youngest person at the time to complete a marathon in all 50 states, and she has gone on to run more than 100 marathons and a few ultramarathons. So, what changed? In this wide-ranging conversation, Laura talks about how she became a runner, and what her approach to running is like. She talks her decision to move from New York City to Colorado, and about becoming a town trustee in her new hometown of Superior, CO. She also talks about how difficult that role has been over the past few months, after fires tore through the town at the end of 2021. She shares what that day was like as both a homeowner in Superior and as an elected official, and about why she has decided to prioritize mental health needs both for herself and for her community in the wake of those fires. Laura works as a management consultant, and when she's not working or on the run, she's a ski instructor at Beaver Creek, a Meals on Wheels volunteer and driver, and a camp counselor at Experience Camps for Grieving Children.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

On being a town trustee in Superior, CO — and receiving more votes than any candidate in history! (6:00)
What brought Laura to Colorado (8:30)
What Young Laura was like (13:40)
How Laura found and fell in love with running (17:15)
Why Laura decided to try and run a marathon in every state (25:30)
How Laura felt when she completed the 50 states challenge (31:00)
Laura talks about being featured in a national JetBlue campaign (34:15)
How Laura got so fast, and what her approach to running is like (36:45)
How Laura became a ski instructor at Beaver Creek (44:30)
On taking a break, taking a leave of absence from work, and prioritizing mental health (48:00)
What it was like being in Superior, CO, during the fires a few months ago (52:00)
Why Laura chose to prioritize community-wide mental health needs after the fires (57:45)
On being a volunteer counselor at Experience Camps for Grieving Children (1:05:30)

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This Is Me table read

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498. Friendship Fest with Cara Enright Welsh & Cameron Erhardt Mar 22, 2022

“It’s just those people when you instantly connect, and they’re one of your people. She was one of those people. And it’s so hard to find those people as adults, as we all know. She was that easy connection, easy talking to. Everything just felt like it was meant to be and meant to happen.”

Cara Enright Welsh and Cameron Erhardt are two of the nicest people on the planet — so it's no surprise this episode is warm fuzzy central. Cara and Cam met when they were both part of Nike's Project Moonshot marathon training program, and they say they became best friends the very first day they met. They immediately bonded over their mutual love for Taylor Swift and NYC "Emo Nights" ("Stay sad!"), their respective roles as the oldest of four siblings, and a shared birthday (November 5, 1990). In this conversation, Cara (a former competitive jump roper) and Cam (a former NCAA Division-1 runner) recall the day they met, and talk about the challenge of making friends and finding running buddies as an adult. Plus, Cam's stories of overcoming tough times mid-marathon and how he learned to keep moving forward, and updates from Cara on her Boston Marathon training and her relocation plans.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Cam and Cara met (4:45)
The role running played early in Cara and Cam’s friendship (13:20)
On being “twins” — and some astrology talk (24:20)
Cam and Cara’s biggest differences, and how they’re navigating a long-distance friendship (30:15)
What running looks like for Cam and Cara right now (38:55)
How to make running friends as an adult (46:00)
The moments when Cara and Cam have felt especially proud of each other (53:50)

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Cara Enright on Episode 376 of the Ali on the Run Show

George Waldron Salon

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497. LIVE from the NYC Half with Becs Gentry & Nev Schulman Mar 21, 2022

"I've made it here. I'm good with that. I'm going to start this race as me. However I finish, I'm still me."

I love a live show! The day before the United Airlines NYC Half (thanks to New Balance, New York Road Runners, and the 1 Hotel Central Park South), I had the pleasure of hosting a live recording of the Ali on the Run Show with returning podcast guests Becs Gentry and Nev Schulman. (Shout-out to the live audience: You were a great crowd, and you were so much fun! Thank you for being there.) This banter-filled conversation covered everything from Becs and Nev's approaches to running and dealing with dark moments on the run, to peeing in the ocean and mastering the art of "The McDash." You'll laugh, you'll gasp (the collective sound in the room when Nev asserted that treadmill running "isn't real running," oh my...), and I hope you'll enjoy. (Oh, and by the way: The fastest marathon ever on a treadmill was run by former Ali on the Run Show guest CJ Albertson! He covered 26.2 miles on a treadmill in 2:09:58.)

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496. Ask Ali with Guest Host Julia Berteletti Mar 18, 2022

"Even though I’ve been doing this for a while, and I’ve been working for myself for a long time, I still have a hard time making my own rules."

Julia Berteletti is a runner, a mom, and a dear friend — and today, she's a podcast host! On this edition of Ask Ali, returning Ali on the Run Show guest Julia is here to do all the question asking, reading your questions from Instagram. We cover everything from favorite foods and "stranded on a desert island" scenarios, to podcasting, motherhood, running, and more.

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Julia Berteletti on Episode 458 of the Ali on the Run Show

Julia Berteletti on Episode 157 of the Ali on the Run Show

Kyle Merber & Chris Chavez on Episode 489 of the Ali on the Run Show

Tracksmith Allston Long Shorts

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495. Betty Lindberg, 97-Year-Old World Record Holder Mar 17, 2022

"That Saturday when I set the record and I was in the tent waiting for them to start the awards ceremony, dozens of people came up to talk to me, and they were from all over the United States! I couldn’t imagine why. I’m just doing what I like to do!"

Betty Lindberg is a local legend in her hometown of Atlanta, GA. She started running at 63 years old, and now, at 97, she's breaking world records. Last month, Betty ran the USATF Master's 5K Championships in Atlanta, and set a new world record for the 95–99 age group. (She finished in 55:48, smashing the previous record by more than 30 minutes.) Breaking that record was no accident: Betty is fiercely competitive (mostly with herself), and she takes her training seriously. (She works out six days a week. On the seventh day, she rests and enjoys her weekly hair appointment.) In this conversation, Betty shares her running story, talks about where her competitive drive comes from, and talks about her mid-race mimosa stops at the Peachtree Road Race every year. She's a legend for a reason!

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What you’ll get on this episode:

On being a local legend (5:20)
Betty’s competitive nature, and what it was like when she broke her first world record at age 91 (7:45)
What Betty’s training and workouts are like (9:30)
All about the day Betty broke the 5K record (12:30)
How Betty celebrated her record (17:30)
How Betty started running — at age 63! (19:15)
On growing up in the 1930s: “You didn’t take part in any sports!” (23:15)
Why Betty wanted to run a half marathon (26:00)
Why Betty loves virtual racing (29:00)
The hip replacement that got Betty running again (37:00)
All about Betty’s workouts and favorite classes at the gym (40:00)
Betty’s advice for how to keep running into our late nineties (44:00)
What Betty is proudest of, and her advice for loving running (49:00)

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494. Friendship Fest with Jenny Grimshaw & Grace Keller Mar 15, 2022

"I don’t think I would’ve done it if Grace hadn’t. I remember saying two things: One, 'The data says you can do it.' And two, thinking about Grace."

Jenny Grimshaw and Grace Keller have only been friends for a few years, but in that time, they've helped each other dream bigger and chase down exciting running goals. Their first endeavor together: to qualify for the 2020 Olympic Marathon Trials. On this episode, Jenny and Grace talk about meeting when they were both living, working, and running in New York City, and share how they're now making a long-distance friendship work. (Jenny lives in San Francisco with her husband and their new baby, Tate, and she works for Glossier. Grace and her husband, a professional baseball player, live in Charlottesville, VA, where she works in the finance and investment banking industry.) Their friendship is a special one that's rooted in their unwavering support and admiration for one another. (Be prepared to shed a tear or two when Grace talks about what she wrote in her journal after Jenny raced that California International Marathon.)

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Grace and Jenny met (5:25)
How Grace and Jenny became friends (9:45)
On training to qualify for the Olympic Marathon Trials (14:30)
Reflecting on Grace’s Philadelphia Marathon in 2019, when she qualified for the Olympic Trials (22:00)
Looking back on Jenny’s CIM race in 2019, when she qualified for the Olympic Trials (31:45)
What it was like getting to run the Olympic Marathon Trials together (35:15)
How Jenny and Grace got so close (48:15)
Why Jenny and Grace’s recent visit in San Francisco was so powerful and important (51:30)
What’s next on the run for Jenny and Grace (58:00)
Jenny and Grace’s proudest moments in their friendship (1:02:20)

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Jenny Donnelly on Episode 215 of the Ali on the Run Show

Jenny & Judi Donnelly on Episode 193 of the Ali on the Run Show

Take the Bridge

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493. Molly Huddle & Sara Slattery, "How She Did It" Co-Authors Mar 14, 2022

“These women are stone-cold killers on the track, so you’re just like, ‘I can’t believe you feel that way!’ But it’s really helpful for anyone who’s dealing with that to know, ‘Hey, these women had to overcome that.’ It was hurting their performance for a while and they had to figure out a way.”

Molly Huddle and Sara Slattery are incredible runners, incredible women, wonderful role models, and now, they can officially say they are published authors. Today, professional runner Molly Huddle and former pro Sara Slattery are here to talk all about their new book, How She Did It. Consider this book the ultimate roadmap for female distance runners. It includes advice from experts, plus stories, interviews, and profiles from 50 legendary women in the sport (many of whom you know, love, and have heard right here on the Ali on the Run Show). In this conversation, Molly and Sara talk about the inspiration for the book, how it actually came to be, and how they tackled the difficult task of which stories to include in the book. Plus, they talk about their friendship, Sara talks about being the head men's and women's cross-country coach at Grand Canyon University (she coaches one of Sara and Ryan Hall's daughters!), and Molly offers a pregnancy update (she's due at the end of April!).

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Molly and Sara met (4:55)
Where the idea for “How She Did It” came from (8:00)
What adult runners can take from this book (12:30)
The process of getting a book published (14:50)
How Sara and Molly decided who to include in the book (18:50)
How do you know when you’ve made it? (23:40)
The stories Molly and Sara knew needed to be in the book (27:20)
The biggest surprises from the book (36:20)
What it’s like coaching Sara and Ryan Hall’s daughter (44:00)
The personal reflections inspired by the book (46:45)
On taking the mental side of training seriously (50:00)
The women Molly and Sara are excited about right now (55:45)
How do we not feel discouraged by doping in the sport? (58:30)
Molly and Sara’s advice for longevity — and unlimited PRs — in the sport (1:02:40)
Molly offers a pregnancy update (1:07:20)

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How She Did It

Molly Huddle on Episode 51 of the Ali on the Run Show

Molly Huddle on Episode 66 of the Ali on the Run Show

Molly Huddle on Episode 259 of the Ali on the Run Show

Molly Huddle on Episode 391 of the Ali on the Run Show

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492. Beyond the Run with Stephanie Roth Goldberg, LCSW, CEDS Mar 11, 2022

"I found myself when I found running."

Stephanie Roth Goldberg is a psychotherapist, licensed clinical social worker, and certified eating disorder specialist in New York City. And when she offers a listening ear and advice for her clients, she's able to do that as both a trained professional and as someone who personally has been through it. In this conversation, Stephanie shares her experiences with substance abuse and addiction and disordered eating as a teen and young adult. She talks about going to rehab for the first time at 14 years old, and about how she ultimately found recovery. And she talks about finding running — and finding herself in the process. In addition to sharing her story on this episode, Stephanie — who is an an Ironman and mom of two living in Montclair, NJ — offers advice about developing a healthy relationship with exercise, dealing with anxiety, and building a mental wellness toolbox (or Caboodle).

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What Stephanie was like as a teenager, and her experiences with substance abuse and an eating disorder (6:00)
How Stephanie found running (24:00)
How Stephanie’s relationship with running has evolved, and whether that relationship has always been healthy (31:30)
How do you know if your relationship with running is healthy? (35:45)
On triggers (40:30)
Intuitive eating 101 (41:45)
How Stephanie became an Ironman (44:10)
What running looks like for Stephanie right now (50:30)
How to deal when “something’s gotta give” (55:00)
Stephanie’s favorite form of self-care (1:01:30)

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Rachel Wyman on Episode 281 of the Ali on the Run Show

Rachel Wyman on Episode 166 of the Ali on the Run Show

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491. Olivia Baker, Professional 800m Runner for Atlanta Track Club Elite Mar 10, 2022

"I was a complete mess. I was so emotional about it, so excited, so just…relieved to have come in, having a lot of momentum, knowing this was a possibility, and then completing a mission."

Olivia Baker is on fire. The professional runner for Atlanta Track Club Elite just competed at the USATF Indoor Track & Field Championships where she finished second in the 800m, officially making her first senior world championship team. She'll head to Serbia later this month to represent Team USA at Indoor World Championships. In this conversation, Olivia reflects on the road to Team USA, including dealing with disappointment after last summer's U.S. Olympic Track & Field Team Trials, weighing the decision of whether or not to attend medical school, and ultimately joining Atlanta Track Club Elite instead. She gushes about her teammates, talks about the tough times and low moments, and shares her confidence journey. Plus, commentating, book clubs, chocolate milkshakes, and more.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How it feels to be representing Team USA, and what the start line felt like at USATF Indoor Track & Field Championships (4:50)
On knowing when it’s time to kick (6:45)
That finish line feeling (10:15)
Did this feel like the “more” Olivia wanted two years ago? (14:15)
Olivia’s relationship with Ajeé Wilson (14:50)
What Olivia’s training will look like between now and World Championships in Serbia, and what the travel there is expected to be like (18:45)
The impact Olivia’s coaches and teammates have had on her (25:30)
What Young Olivia was like, learning to get over being “obsessively afraid of racing,” and how she’s learned to deal with disappointment (35:45)
Olivia’s decision not to attend medical school last year (40:45)
Why Olivia joined Atlanta Track Club Elite (45:30)
On confidence, commentating, and book clubs (51:00)

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Allie Wilson on Episode 469 of the Ali on the Run Show

"Dear Younger Me," by Olivia Baker for MileSplit

A Beautiful Work in Progress by Mirna Valerio

Grit by Angela Duckworth

Let’s Get Physical by Danielle Friedman

Running For My Life by Lopez Lomong

The Power by Naomi Alderman

Tom Holland on Lip Sync Battle

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490. Celebrating International Women's Day with Sara Hall, Emily Sisson, & Emma Bates Mar 09, 2022

"We have all become the women we are today because of other women." —Emma Bates

It was a great privilege to get to host this virtual live show on International Women's Day with three UCAN-sponsored professional athletes: Sara Hall, Emily Sisson, and Emma Bates. All three of these women were fresh off three different races — the Tokyo Marathon for Sara, a win at the Gate River Run 15K for Emily, and The TEN on the track for Emma — so in addition to recapping their recent race experiences, we also talked about the power of women in sports. Sara, Emily, and Emma talk about the women who have pushed and inspired them in their respective careers, they talk about who they love racing against, and they talk about confidence on and off the roads.

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Sara Hall on Episode 459 of the Ali on the Run Show

Sara Hall on Episode 321 of the Ali on the Run Show

Sara Hall on Episode 300 of the Ali on the Run Show

Sara and Ryan Hall on Episode 144 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emily Sisson & Shane Quinn on Episode 479 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emily Sisson on Episode 394 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emily Sisson on Episode 234 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emily Sisson on Episode 169 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emma Bates on Episode 444 of the Ali on the Run Show

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489. Friendship Fest with Kyle Merber & Chris Chavez Mar 08, 2022

"We’re track and field’s biggest hype people, and we want to share the joy of the sport with as many people as possible."

You'll be hard-pressed to find anyone who loves track and field more than the dynamic duo ("the greatest bromance in track and field") of Chris Chavez and Kyle Merber. This week, we're turning our Friendship Fest attention to the guys. Chris is the founder of Citius Mag, host of the Citius Mag podcast, former Sports Illustrated journalist, director of the Magic Boost program, and one of the nicest, hardest-working people in the industry. Kyle is a former professional runner (a 3:52 miler! he won the Millrose Games mile as a high schooler!) who retired in 2020, and now works full-time for American Express while also managing The Lap Count newsletter and navigating life as a new dad. Chris and Kyle started as friends (you'll get that full story in this episode), and now work together as collaborators and track and field commentators. In this conversation, they share their enthusiasm for the sport, talk about what it's like when they run together (it's more fun for one of them than it is for the other), and share their big dreams for the future.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Chris and Kyle recall their first meeting (7:00)
Why Kyle wanted Chris to help tell his retirement story (11:50)
How Chris and Kyle are working together right now (14:25)
Chris and Kyle, track and field commentators (22:45)
What to expect from Chris and Kyle this summer (33:15)
On running together (35:15)
What Chris and Kyle are excited about in running right now (37:40)
Chris and Kyle share the moments when they were especially proud of each other (44:00)

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Chris Chavez on Episode 262 of the Ali on the Run Show

Trials of Miles

The Real Maine documentary

Citius Mag podcast: Kyle Merber Exit Interview and The Importance of Sharing the Athlete Story

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488. Camille Herron, U.S. 100-Mile Road Champion & World Record Holder Mar 03, 2022

“It could be two o’clock in the afternoon and the sun’s beating down on us, and I’m just smiling. I’m gritting my teeth through the afternoon sun, and still believing I can push through it.”

On February 18, renowned ultra runner Camille Herron made history — again. The queen of the ultra scene ran and won the USATF 100-Mile Road Championships in Henderson, NV, and not only won the race outright (the first male finisher was half an hour behind her), she broke her own 100-mile world record by 89 seconds, finishing in 12 hours 41 minutes and 11 seconds. That's a 7:36 per mile pace on an 85-lap course. On this episode, Camille (who turned 40 on Christmas) talks all about that race, including how she prepped for it, her goals going into the race, and how she has tweaked her training and lifestyle habits in order to "age like a fine wine," she says. Plus, how she got into running and ultras, and where her always-happy demeanor came from.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Camille’s feeling since running the USATF 100-Mile Road Championship (4:05)
What Young Camille was like, and how she found and fell in love with running (6:25)
Reflecting on the USATF 100-Mile Road Championship, and what Camille’s goals were going into the race (14:00)
What Camille’s training is like (18:25)
Why Camille started working with a registered dietitian (23:50)
The lifestyle choices Camille has made recently so she can perform at her best (32:45)
All about the 85-lap 100-Mile Road Championship course, and how Camille broke it down mentally (36:35)
How Camille was feeling at the start line (44:30)
The pressure of being Camille Herron (47:00)
How Camille felt during the first half of the race (49:25)
How Camille pushed through the “dark parts” of the race (55:00)
That finish line feeling (59:30)
How Camille celebrated (1:05:00)
Camille’s advice for the ultra-curious (1:08:00)

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Camille Herron in the New York Times

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487. Friendship Fest with Emily Infeld & Aisha Praught Leer Mar 01, 2022

“When I met Aisha, I was like, ‘Oh, we’re gonna be friends forever.’”

Emily Infeld and Aisha Praught Leer are professional runners and Olympians, and despite never sharing a coach, team, or hometown, they have the type of friendship that transcends all of that. On this episode, Aisha and Emily talk about how they met, share their first impressions of each other, and talk about how they bonded long-distance in the early days of their professional careers. We get some big life updates: Emily officially announces who she's being coached by since leaving the Bowerman Track Club, and Aisha talks about how her return to running has been going since having surgery to repair her torn meniscus after last year's Tokyo Olympics. Plus, LOL-worthy stories about Emily behind the wheel, Aisha in the pool, and so much more.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

When and how Emily and Aisha met (6:00)
Emily and Aisha recall their first impressions of each other, and talk about how their friendship progressed (10:55)
The time Emily taught Aisha how to swim — kind of (18:00)
On running together and making a long-distance friendship work (19:40)
How Emily and Aisha are alike, and how they’re different (26:00)
What Emily and Aisha talk about, and what they’re each like when the other is racing (38:00)
What’s new with Aisha (43:00)
What’s new with Emily (52:10)
Emily and Aisha talk about moments when they’ve felt especially proud of each other (1:04:20)

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Emily Infeld on Episode 400 of the Ali on the Run Show

Aisha Praught Leer on Episode 462 of the Ali on the Run Show

Aisha Praught Leer on Episode 415 of the Ali on the Run Show

Aisha Praught & Will Leer on Episode 204 of the Ali on the Run Show

Aisha Praught Leer on Episode 197 of the Ali on the Run Show

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486. Beyond the Run with Jess Movold Feb 25, 2022

"I didn’t prepare for it. I wasn’t ready for it. It was very, very hard, and dark, and scary."

Welcome to the second episode in the new Beyond the Run series on the Ali on the Run Show. Twice a month, we're checking in with industry experts, professional runners, and everyday runners to talk about the intersection of running and mental wellness. (The first episode in this series with Dr. Ian Nurse and Emily Saul was a must-listen.) Today, running and strength coach Jess Movold returns to the show to talk about her pregnancy (she's currently 21 weeks along with her first baby, a boy!) and how she's coped with the physical and emotional changes in her life. It's an honest, vulnerable conversation about expectations vs. reality, dealing with dark days, and how life is changing on the run and beyond.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Jess shares her experience running the Austin Half Marathon at 21 weeks pregnant (5:10)
Jess’s relationship with her dad (11:40)
How Jess found out she was pregnant, and what it was like running the New York City Marathon a few weeks into her pregnancy (20:00)
The story of Kelly (31:00)
Expectations vs. reality (35:00)
How Jess is dealing with the tough days (46:15)
Body talk (50:00)
Why Jess says mental wellness “is everything” (1:05:30)
Jess offers runners a pre-race pep talk — and tries to convince us all to do 10 push-ups (1:08:30)

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Jess Movold on Episode 249 of the Ali on the Run Show

Jess Movold on Episode 147 of the Ali on the Run Show

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485. Nev Schulman, Host of MTV’s Catfish & 2:58 Marathoner Feb 24, 2022

“My default is trusting and looking for the good. I want to believe that people are telling me the truth when I talk to them. I assume they are. I just generally find that I always give people the benefit of the doubt and assume they’re honest and well intentioned. Obviously that’s not true. But that sort of naïveté, if you will — which definitely led to me getting catfished — has strangely served me well. I’m so glad I got duped by that woman.”

Nev Schulman is best known as the star of the 2010 award-winning documentary Catfish, and now as the host of the MTV show of the same name. (My mom knows — and adores — him as the runner-up from Season 29 of Dancing with the Stars.) But when he's not seeking scammers, he's likely on the run. Nev is a 2:58 marathoner who is currently training to run the New York City Half Marathon, where he hopes to run a personal best (sub-1:25). On this episode, Nev talks about what it was like growing up near the New York City Marathon finish line and getting to watch the race with his dad (also a 2:58 marathoner!) every year. He talks about becoming a dad himself (he and his wife have three children) and the unexpected effects of fame on both him and his family. He talks about hitting rock bottom at 19, and about how he learned not to let the hardest time in his life define him forever. And he talks about his empathetic and compassionate outlook on life, and how he's able to remain optimistic in this world, even after being catfished himself. Plus, all about his running story, including how he got started running at age 30, his favorite New York City Marathon memories, and more.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Today in the life of Nev (4:30)
How Nev got into running (8:25)
Nev shares his love for dance and talks about what it was like being on Dancing with the Stars (17:15)
How Nev got his start in film production (24:50)
On fame (34:00)
How Nev keeps seeing the good in the world (43:00)
How Nev became a marathoner (49:50)
How Nev ran a 2:58 marathon (1:01:10)
Nev’s new friendship with Alexi Pappas (1:07:25)
What’s next for Nev on the run (1:11:10)

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484. Friendship Fest with Nell Rojas & Hiruni Wijayaratne Feb 22, 2022

"I would declare war on all of your enemies."

Welcome to Friendship Fest! Starting today and for the next seven weeks, we'll be hearing from runner friends about how they met, the role running plays in their friendship, and what big dreams and goals they share for the future. (Consider it Love on the Run, friendship-style!) We're kicking things off today with Boulder-based besties and professional marathon runners Nell Rojas and Hiruni Wijayaratne. Nell and Hiruni are both coached by Ric Rojas (Nell's dad), and we recorded this conversation while they were at training camp in Phoenix. They share the stories of how they met, why Hiruni joined Nell and Ric's training group, what it was like running the first 20 miles of CIM together in December, and how they handle it when one of them has a great race or workout and the other doesn't.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What Nell and Hiruni are up to in Phoenix (6:00)
How Nell and Hiruni met (13:25)
What it was like when Nell and Hiruni started training together (22:30)
How Nell and Hiruni are similar, how they’re different, and what they’re like when they run together (26:00)
On running CIM together in December (40:00)
Nell reflects on her race at the Houston Half Marathon in January (48:25)
Nell talks about signing with adidas and what she did first after making it official (55:00)
Nell and Hiruni talk about when they’ve felt especially proud of each other (59:20)

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Nell Rojas on Episode 434 of the Ali on the Run Show

Nell Rojas on Episode 431 of the Ali on the Run Show

Nell Rojas on Episode 229 of the Ali on the Run Show

Hiruni Wijayaratne on Episode 466 of the Ali on the Run Show

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483. Ask Ali with Guest Host Molly Burke Feb 18, 2022

“I can only show up and do my best every time. And sometimes my best will be the best. And other times it won’t. And that’s fine. I think.”

Welcome to the first Ask Ali episode of 2022! This time, instead of answering listener voicemails, I've enlisted Molly Burke to facilitate, and we're answering questions I received before and after the 2022 State of the Ali on the Run Show episode. It's a lot of behind-the-scenes-of-the-podcast stuff, a lot of questions about my goals for the show, and a good amount of self-reflection. Also a surprising number of bear references.

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Molly Burke on Episode 455 of the Ali on the Run Show

The 2022 State of the Ali on the Run Show

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482. Girl Talk with Molly Seidel & Anoush Arakelian Feb 17, 2022

"I’ve been working a lot on just being able to own who I am in this sport. Things have changed so drastically over the last two years, so it’s coming to terms with that, of going from someone who was going to quit the sport to now someone who is one of the better-known names in the sport. That’s been a weird transition for me, honestly."

Last week, Olympic bronze medalist Molly Seidel shared a dating-related post on Instagram. And to say it was the talk of the running world (and far beyond) would be an understatement. The post prompted all kinds of reactions (it currently has more than 2,100 comments — nearly double the response Molly received when she posted about running the New York City Marathon in November and breaking the American course record), and Molly returns to the show today to talk about all of it. We're joined by mutual friend, running coach, MyStryde Boston instructor, and 3:11 marathoner Anoush Arakelian, and we're talking about why that post struck a chord for so many. Plus, dating talk, confidence talk, mental health talk, and Boston Marathon talk. (If you're running the race this April, Coach Anoush has some advice for you!) What started as a fun and lighthearted Galentine's Day (and Super Bowl Sunday) girl talk session turned into so much more. Bottom line: You're a 10.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

An update on where Molly keeps her Olympic medal (3:45)
How Anoush met her boyfriend (7:20)
Boston Marathon goals and advice (9:20)
All about that now-viral Bumble post (13:30)
Jon Green and Molly Seidel are NOT dating! (23:00)
How Anoush and Molly met, and more dating talk (25:00)
Emotions and running (37:00)
What Molly is doing to improve her confidence (41:30)
On reading LetsRun, and why Molly does it (47:15)
Dream date talk, and listener dating disaster stories (56:50)

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Molly Seidel on Episode 420 of the Ali on the Run Show

Molly Seidel on Episode 341 of the Ali on the Run Show

Ian Nurse & Emily Saul on Episode 474 of the Ali on the Run Show

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481. Love on the Run with Josette Norris & Robby Andrews Feb 14, 2022

"Moral of the story is if a girl is gonna stick around you when you’re sleeping until 12:30 in the afternoon, she probably likes you. Marry her."

Happy Valentine's Day! Welcome to the seventh and final episode in this year's Love on the Run Week series. Today, Jersey is in the house! Professional runners Josette Norris and Robby Andrews join the show to talk about the first time they met, the actual first time they met, and what they're each like on the sidelines when the other is racing (spoiler: loud!). Josette signed with Reebok in 2020, and is fresh off a breakout year where everyone was talking about "Josette Norris from New Jersey." And 2022 is already off to a solid start for her, with personal bests in the 1500m and the 3000m. Robby is in his tenth year competing as a professional athlete. He is sponsored by adidas, and is a 2016 Olympian: He competed in the 1500m in Rio. In this conversation, Josette and Robby (who got engaged in 2020) keep it fun talking about Robby meeting Barack and Michelle Obama and about how wedding planning is going. But they also talk about dealing with tough stuff, like Robby's experiences with Lyme disease, injuries, and surgeries, and Josette's experience being thrust into the running spotlight last year, and how she handled that. Robby offers an epic answer to the "What food would you make for Josette?" question in the Sprint, and they talk about what's on tap for 2022.

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480. Love on the Run with Sinclaire Johnson & Craig Nowak Feb 13, 2022

"I feel like I’m the best version of myself when he’s around."

It's a big weekend for professional runners Sinclaire Johnson and Craig Nowak! Sinclaire and her Union Athletics Club teammates just broke the DMR (distance medley relay) world record in Spokane, WA (Sinclaire ran the 800m leg), and Craig was tasked with pacing 1500m and the 3K. But when they're not racing, pacing, or record-breaking, Sinclaire and Craig live and train together in Portland, OR. On this episode, they share the story of how they met (at Oklahoma State University, where Sinclaire was a freshman and Craig was a fifth year senior), what it was like dating long-distance after Craig graduated, and moving in together. Sinclaire, an NCAA 1500m champion who signed with Nike after graduating, talks about her decision to leave the Bowerman Track Club last year and to join Union Athletics Club, where she is coached by Pete Julian. She talks about having that conversation with former coaches Jerry Schumacher and Shalane Flanagan, and about why the Bowerman training style wasn't working for her. And Craig talks about becoming "the pacer guy," about his role as an official pacer on race day, and about how he navigates his own racing goals with his pacing duties.

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Sinclaire Johnson on Episode 373 of the Ali on the Run Show

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479. Love on the Run with Emily Sisson & Shane Quinn Feb 12, 2022

“It was that classic thing of, ‘Want to go study together?’ with no actual interest in studying whatsoever.”

In the summer of 2011, the northeast was preparing to get hit by Hurricane Irene. At Providence College in Rhode Island, a group of students gathered in a dorm room to ride out the storm together. Two of those students, both at Providence to run competitively, were Emily Sisson and Shane Quinn. On this episode, professional runner Emily and mental health counselor Shane talk about why they were immediately attracted to each other (no "speed goggles" necessary), and how their relationship started (shout-out to the Providence Place mall!). They reflect on major moments in Emily's running career, like winning the 10K at the U.S. Olympic Team Track & Field Trials last summer, and talk about what it was like when Emily competed at the Olympics but Shane couldn't be there with her. Plus, exciting life updates: Emily and Shane (and their two dogs, Desmond and Tori) just moved to Flagstaff, AZ!

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Emily Sisson on Episode 394 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emily Sisson on Episode 234 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emily Sisson on Episode 169 of the Ali on the Run Show

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478. Love on the Run with Annie Frisbie & Dhru Patel Feb 11, 2022

“I thought he just wanted to be my friend!”

Love on the Run Week, day four! Today we're joined by Minnesota Distance Elite's Annie Frisbie and Dhru Patel. Annie is in the midst of a breakout year on the run. She made her marathon debut at the TCS New York City Marathon in November, where she ran a 2:26, finishing seventh overall and as the third American woman. That time was the fourth-fastest marathon debut by an American woman. Then, Annie signed her first professional sponsorship deal with Puma. Last month, she raced for the first time in her new kit and shoes at the Houston Half Marathon, running a 1:10, finishing 10th, and immediately saying she was "hungry for more." When she's not running professionally, Annie is a graphic designer. On this episode, we hear all about that day in New York City from Annie's perspective, and from Dhru's, who was there to support his girlfriend and teammate. Dhru explains why he's taking a running and training break right now, and about what his days look like without running and competing. Dhru is perhaps best known for making history in April 2019. He was a senior accounting major at North Central College and ran the 5,000 meters at a meet at Stanford. Dhru finished in 13:51, breaking a 42-year division-three record.

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Dakotah Lindwurm on Episode 476 of the Ali on the Run Show

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477. Love on the Run with Natalie & Jerold Mitchell Feb 10, 2022

"I was like, you know what, any woman who can hop over a fence in a dress — I need to know more about her!"

It's day three of Love on the Run Week, and Natalie and Jerold Mitchell are here! Natalie and Jerold have been married for more than two decades, and have three children together. They live in Los Angeles, where Jerold works in human resources, Natalie is a run coach (she's also a 12-time marathoner with a 3:05 personal best), and they co-host the Suite Run podcast. On this episode, they talk about the first time they met (Natalie was not interested), about bonding at a friend's wedding, and about dating long-distance for two years before Jerold moved to L.A. to be with Natalie. Jerold shares the story of surprising Natalie by running a marathon with the hopes of proposing at the finish line — and they laugh about how that story actually played out. (You will, too.) Plus, they share the highs and lows of working together, and Natalie offers an update on her goals to qualify for the Olympic Trials in the marathon.

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Natalie Mitchell on Episode 307 of the Ali on the Run Show

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476. Love on the Run with Nikki Hiltz & Emma Gee Feb 09, 2022

“Emma was my calm within the storm.”

It's the second day of Love on the Run Week, and today we're joined by Nikki Hiltz and Emma Gee. Nikki is a professional runner specializing in the 1500 meters, and Emma was a standout collegiate runner at Brigham Young University and Temple University. Together, they're a total dream team, and they're incredible advocates for the LGBTQ+ community. (Run the Pride 5K!) Last year, Nikki came out as transgender nonbinary, telling the world, "The best way I can explain my gender is as fluid." Nikki's pronouns are they/them; Emma's pronouns are she/her. Nikki and Emma are wise and introspective, and they love self-discovery. On this episode, they talk about how they met (for the first time in a town called Hurricane!), why they fell in love, and what their relationship has been like. They talk about the good and bad sides of using their voices, and Nikki offers some sponsorship updates.

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For more, check out:

Nikki Hiltz on Episode 294 of the Ali on the Run Show

Nikki Hiltz on Episode 170 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emma Gee on Episode 309 of the Ali on the Run Show

The Queer Athlete podcast

Myers-Briggs test (I’m ESFJ — The Consul!)

The 5 Love Languages (I’m words of affirmation!)

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475. Love on the Run with Keira & Anthony D'Amato Feb 08, 2022

“Our love story is a pretty long, funny one.”

Welcome to Love on the Run Week 2022! On tap: seven days, seven episodes, seven couples sharing their love stories. Prepare for lots of laughs, awwwwws, and warm fuzzies leading up to Valentine's Day. These guests — all at different stages in their relationships — will share how they met, the best parts of their relationships, the challenges, and the role running plays throughout it all.

First up: Keira and Anthony D'Amato! Keira is the newly-crowned American record holder in the marathon, and she'll be the first to tell you that she couldn't and wouldn't have run that 2:19:12 at the Houston Marathon without "Team D'Amato." And yeah, she's the fastest marathoner in the country right now, but Keira and Anthony are all about fun. Everything they do is in pursuit of a good time, from smashing records to organizing food bracket challenges with their kids, Tommy and Quin. On this episode, we'll hear all about what went down in Houston, Keira and Anthony's Vegas wedding, and the time Anthony secretly ate all the hidden Halloween candy.

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Keira D'Amato on Episode 414 of the Ali on the Run Show

Keira D'Amato on Episode 305 of the Ali on the Run Show

Calum Neff on Episode 470 of the Ali on the Run Show

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474. Beyond the Run with Dr. Ian Nurse & Emily Saul Feb 04, 2022

"Running is hard. Races are hard. So let’s expect that."

Welcome to Beyond the Run — a new series on the Ali on the Run Show focusing on the mental side of running. Twice a month, we'll hear from professional athletes, everyday runners, and experts in their fields about the impact running can have on our emotional well-being.

We're kicking things off today with two experts.

Dr. Ian Nurse is a chiropractor, 25-time marathoner (with a 2:25 personal best), dad of two, and owner of Wellness in Motion Boston, where he treats the everyday and amateur runner, movie stars, musicians, and professional athletes including Molly Seidel, Elle Purrier St. Pierre, and Heather MacLean. (And he treats me!) Ian is all about taking a holistic approach to his treatment, which is why in addition to his staff of chiropractors, physical therapists, and massage therapists, he also brought Emily Saul onto the team.

You may remember Emily Saul — the collegiate rower turned marathoner and co-leader of November Project Boston — from Episode 59 of the Ali on the Run Show. She's a licensed mental health counselor with a Master's degree in sports psychology, and she's the founder of E Saul Movement.

In this unexpectedly personal conversation (two of us cried!), Ian talks about how runners can take care of their bodies this year, and Emily speaks to the mental side of it all. They talk about working with Molly Seidel the day before the 2021 New York City Marathon, and Ian talks about his struggles with aging on the run and how Emily has helped him work through that. Plus, dealing with injuries, how to know when to "push through the pain," and what seeing a sports psychologist is actually like.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How are you doing? (8:30)
How Ian got connected with and started treating professional runners, and his approach to treating runners in pain (15:30)
Ian and Emily’s work with Molly Seidel before the 2021 New York City Marathon (27:50)
What a first-time session with Emily is like (43:15)
Ian’s role in a patient’s treatment (50:00)
On getting older as a runner, and why Ian started seeing Emily — as a patient (54:00)
The most-common complaints Ian and Emily hear from their patients and clients (1:04:30)
Something Ian and Emily want runners to add to or remove from their lives to live and run happier (1:16:00)

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473. Emily Oster, Economist, Author, Professor, Runner Feb 03, 2022

"Running has served many purposes over my whole life. But in this particular set of moments now — where so much of what I’m doing is not exactly about metrics, but about data and trying to achieve or accomplish something — I realized that trying to meet some particular bar or some standard with running was not the relationship I wanted to have with that activity. I want running to be something I do for me... It’s supposed to be fun."

If you're a parent, you're probably familiar with Emily Oster. She's an economist and professor of economics at Brown University, but among the child-rearing set, she's best known as the author of Expecting Better, Cribsheet, and The Family Firm. And while the media loves to call Emily a "parenting expert," Emily's actual goal is to use a data-driven approach to help parents feel more relaxed about their decisions. And while Emily swears by research and numbers in most aspects of her life, there's one area where she opts to ditch the data: on the run. Emily is a lifelong runner, and on this episode she talks about how she got into running, how she finds time to run as a busy mom of two, and how her relationship with running has evolved over the past few years.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How was Emily’s run today? (5:30)
How Emily became an author who tackles hot parenting topics from a data-driven perspective (9:15)
Why Emily wants to create a world with more relaxed pregnant women and parents (14:00)
Why Emily started diving into pandemic-related data in March 2020 (20:00)
On tackling tough topics, and having thick skin (23:30)
What are Emily’s work-life boundaries like these days? (28:00)
Emily’s approach to running (34:00)
How Emily got into running, and what her family and childhood were like (36:45)
Emily’s advice for aspiring early morning runners (49:00)
Emily’s advice for parents who are having a tough time right now, and advice for device-addicted runners (57:30)

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"Emily Oster: Through the Looking Glass," via Tracksmith

Shake-N-Wake Vibrating Alarm

"Anxious? You are not alone."

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472. Emilia Benton, Boston Marathon Qualifier Jan 27, 2022

“I think this time was a long time coming. I just had to believe in myself more than anything.”

The last time freelance journalist Emilia Benton was on the Ali on the Run Show, she talked about her longtime dream to qualify for the Boston Marathon. And she just kicked off 2022 by doing exactly that: running a nearly 16-minute personal best and earning a Boston qualifying time at the Houston Marathon. (Emilia's official finish time: 3:30:14!) On this episode, Emilia talks all about how she made that 12-year dream come true in Houston. She talks about the game-changing decision to hire professional runner Nell Rojas as her coach, and about what working with Nell was like throughout her marathon build-up. (Read more about their experience working together in Women's Running here.) Emilia talks about dealing with setbacks on the run, including a hip injury that sidelined her early in this training cycle, and about how she never stopped believing in herself along the way.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Emilia’s feeling after racing the Houston Marathon (3:30)
When the dream of Boston Qualifying first entered Emilia’s mind (4:30)
Emilia’s plan to run the 2021 New York City Marathon, and her decision to hire coach Nell Rojas (6:45)
Why Houston? (19:45)
On running CIM as a workout, and other confidence-boosting experiences leading up to Houston (21:00)
What it was like being at the Houston Marathon as a member of the media, an ambassador, and a race participant (23:00)
How Emilia was feeling on race day (27:10)
Emilia’s goals and plans for race day (33:00)
On keeping it fun (42:30)
When Emilia knew she was going to BQ (46:20)
Emilia’s post-race thoughts (51:00)
How Emilia shaved 16 minutes off her marathon PR (52:30)

Check out:

Emilia Benton on Episode 340 of the Ali on the Run Show

Nell Rojas on Episode 434 of the Ali on the Run Show

Nell Rojas on Episode 431 of the Ali on the Run Show

Nell Rojas on Episode 229 of the Ali on the Run Show

Calum Neff on Episode 470 of the Ali on the Run Show

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471. Sara Vaughn, 2021 CIM Winner & Puma-Sponsored Athlete Jan 25, 2022

“Celebrating victories big or small — that’s definitely how I choose to live life now.”

The "great time to be a 30-something mom on the run" celebrations continue today on the Ali on the Run Show. Sara Vaughn is a full-time realtor and mom of four who just made — and won — her marathon debut at CIM and, within hours of crossing the finish line, was on the phone about to sign her first professional running contract with Puma. Sara has been competitive on the track for a long time, having great success particularly in the 1500m and the steeplechase. But last year, she got the itch to go long, and decided to give the marathon a try. Now, at 35, she's a fully-sponsored professional runner for the first time. On this episode, Sara talks about what life is like now with her new Puma deal, and explains how that deal came together. She talks about motherhood, identity, and whether always being pegged as a mom-on-the-run has helped or hurt her career. Plus, her spring 2022 racing plans, her decision to prioritize her mental health, and so much more.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

On being a mom on the run right now, and Sara’s take on being defined as a mom (4:00)
On celebrating the big and little wins, and how Sara does that (13:00)
What a day in the life is like for Sara (15:50)
Reflecting on the fires in the Boulder area, and what things are like there now (18:45)
All about that post-CIM phone call with Puma (21:45)
The pre-marathon questions that Sara asked friend Amy Cragg (26:30)
On signing with Puma! (30:00)
Sara’s expectations for her debut marathon, and how the reality compared (39:00)
Sara’s approach to training for the 2022 Boston Marathon (48:00)
What’s next for Sara? (52:45)

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470. Calum Neff, Pacer for Keira D'Amato's American Record at the Houston Marathon Jan 20, 2022

"We hit that first split bang on the money, and I told her, 'We’re good. It’s happening. It’s on.'"

It was a record-breaking, history-making weekend at the Houston Marathon! Keira D'Amato won the race and ran a new American record in the marathon, finishing in 2:19:12 and breaking Deena Kastor's former record by 24 seconds. And Keira had some company along the way: two pacers, one of whom was Texas-based ultra-runner and four-time Guinness World Record Holder Calum Neff. (You may also remember Calum as the "green shorts guy" who paced Sara Hall at the Marathon Project in 2020.) And while Calum is an incredibly accomplished runner, he — like Keira — had never broken 2:20 in the marathon. So this task would require running a personal best of his own en route to that American record goal. (Spoiler: He did it, finishing in 2:19:33.) On this episode, Calum talks about how he got the role as Keira's pacer, what it was like previewing the course together the day before the race, and what that 5:18 pace actually felt like. Plus, all the details and dad jokes from the day, hashing out the realities of pandemic marriage and parenting (Calum and his wife have three daughters), and what's next for Calum.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Calum’s feeling post-race (4:00)
How Calum got the job as Keira D’Amato’s Houston Marathon pacer (5:55)
What Calum’s training was like leading up to Houston (16:20)
All about Calum’s experience at the 2021 Chicago Marathon (21:00)
How Calum balances pacing duties with his own running goals, and what it was like previewing the course with Keira (27:15)
The plan for race day (36:00)
All about the race (46:15)
That finish line moment (1:04:05)
Calum’s top moment from the day (1:13:00)
What’s next for Calum? (1:16:00)

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Calum Neff on Episode 318 of the Ali on the Run Show

Keira D’Amato on Episode 414 of the Ali on the Run Show

Keira D’Amato on Episode 305 of the Ali on the Run Show

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469. Allie Wilson, Professional Runner for Atlanta Track Club Elite Jan 18, 2022

“I will be a nervous wreck until that gun goes off, but I will never race like I’m nervous… As soon as I’m racing, it all goes out the window, and I’m always going to race my heart out, no matter what.”

At last summer's U.S. Olympic Track & Field Team Trials, Allie Wilson officially solidified her spot as "one to watch" in the 800m. The professional runner for Atlanta Track Club Elite made it to the final round of the 800, ultimately finishing sixth. And despite not making the Olympic team, she walked away from Hayward Field proudly — and with a new personal best (1:59.02). On this episode, Allie reflects on her first Olympic Trials experience. She talks about her pre-race meltdown before the first round of competition, and talks about how she deals with race-day nerves. Allie talks about why she likes "racing under the radar," and about how she's learned not to count herself out when it matters the most. ("I may not be the fastest person going into the Trials, but I’m one of the fastest," Allie says. "And anything can happen if you put your mind to it.") Plus, all about heat training in Florida and what's on tap for 2022.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

All about what Allie is up to in Florida right now (5:40)
On Allie’s evolution as a runner (12:10)
Reflecting on last summer’s U.S. Olympic Track & Field Team Trials (15:20)
How Allie learned not to count herself out (19:15)
All about that first round at the Trials (24:40)
How Allie was feeling heading into the semi-finals (34:40)
Breaking down the 800m final at the Olympic Trials (39:00)
On racing happy and loving this sport (47:30)
How Allie ended up in Atlanta (53:50)
What’s on tap for 2022? (58:45)

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468. Brittany Charboneau, 2022 Dopey Challenge Champion Jan 14, 2022

“It was just so magical. Like holy smokes, I did it.”

Last weekend, Brittany Charboneau made Disney history by becoming the first person to ever win all four races in the Dopey Challenge. The North Face-sponsored professional runner ran four races in four days — a 5K, 10K, half marathon, and marathon — and broke the tape at each one. And she did so in carefully curated costumes that she hand-made herself, including Elsa from Frozen 2, Bing Bong and Joy from Inside Out, and Cruella de Vil from Cruella. On this episode, Brittany talks about why she wanted to complete the Dopey Challenge after a disappointing experience at last year's Boston Marathon. She talks about getting Covid just a few weeks before the races, and about her inspiration for each race and each costume. Plus, the Colorado-based comedian talks about attending "Broadway Camp" in New York City, where she spent nine hours a day training in dance, acting, and singing — in addition to training for the Dopey Challenge.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Brittany’s feeling after completing the Dopey Challenge (5:30)
Why Brittany wanted to run the Dopey Challenge (7:30)
All about Brittany’s Dopey Challenge goals, and how she trained to run four races in four days (12:45)
On getting Covid on Christmas Eve (20:15)
On winning the Dopey Challenge 5K in 17:36, dressed as Elsa from Frozen 2 (22:00)
On winning the Dopey Challenge 10K in 36:36, dressed as Bing Bong from Inside Out (30:15)
On winning the Dopey Challenge half marathon in 1:19:18, dressed as Joy from Inside Out (36:00)
On winning the Dopey Challenge marathon in 2:45:15, dressed as Cruella de Vil from 101 Cruella (48:30)
All about those finish line cookies (1:05:45)
What it was like getting a private tour of Walt Disney World (1:08:30)
All about Broadway Camp in New York City (1:10:20)
What’s next for Brittany (1:15:20)

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Sugar Tats Cookie Company

Broadway Weekends

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467. Dakotah Lindwurm, Puma-Sponsored Professional Runner Jan 13, 2022

“That is how I always race — I’ve always got a smile on my face.”

Dakotah Lindwurm runs happy. If you saw her leading the 2021 Boston Marathon — where she ultimately finished as the third American woman — you saw that smile on full display, from start to finish. And that smile just got a lot bigger, as Dakotah kicks off the new year with her first professional contract. Last week, Dakotah announced that she has officially signed with Puma, and that she will continue training with Minnesota Distance Elite. On this episode, the 2:29 marathoner (and former hockey goalie!) talks about her stellar past year on the run, which included two half-marathon personal bests and a win at Grandma's Marathon, where she also ran a personal best. She talks about being pegged as an underdog, and why she loves it, and about her goals for this weekend's Houston Half Marathon.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Dakotah’s Puma contract came together (3:15)
How Dakotah’s feeling heading into her first race as a sponsored athlete (7:45)
On being a happy runner (10:40)
Reflecting on the 2021 Boston Marathon, and the highs and lows in Dakotah’s career so far (14:10)
How Dakotah plans her racing calendar, and all about signing with an agent (23:00)
The underdog mentality (26:50)
All about Dakotah’s training (33:00)
What Dakotah’s childhood was like, and how she got into running (38:45)
All the stuff Dakotah does off the run (46:00)
Dakotah’s advice for pursuing big running goals in 2022 (55:00)

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Minnesota Distance Elite

Run the Mile You’re In by Ryan Hall

Atomic Habits by James Clear

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466. Hiruni Wijayaratne, South Asia's Fastest Marathoner Jan 11, 2022

“I feel like I’m in love again with the process of waking up early, putting my shoes on, bundling up, and going for a run. It doesn’t feel quite easy or fun all the time yet, but I’m definitely in love with the process again.”

For most professional athletes, a day in the life includes running, eating, recovering, napping, resting, running again, eating again, and sleeping. But for Hiruni Wijayaratne — the 11-time Sri Lankan record holder in distances from the 5,000 meters to the marathon, and the fastest female marathoner in South Asia — running has to happen before or after her other jobs. Hiruni lives in Colorado, where she works full-time in the tech industry, coaches with Runcoach, and trains at an elite level under the coaching of Ric Rojas. On this episode, Hiruni talks about her years-long quest to qualify for Sri Lanka's Olympic marathon team, and what it's been like to fall short of that goal and break her mind, body, and spirit in the process. She talks about her struggles over the past few years, and about clawing her way back to loving running again. Most recently, Hiruni ran the California International Marathon (with training partner Nell Rojas!), where she earned her second-fastest marathon time, finishing in 2:34:22. But the road to the CIM start line wasn't easy, and today Hiruni is here to talk about what it means to bet on yourself — and how she's learned to do it.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What it was like being in the Boulder area during the massive fires in December (4:10)
All about Hiruni’s recent wedding! (11:15)
What Hiruni’s job is like, what it entails, and when she runs (13:00)
All about those 12 seconds at CIM (16:45)
The road to CIM (18:20)
What Hiruni’s relationship with running is like now (23:40)
Hiruni’s high point in CIM training (28:00)
Hiruni’s CIM goals (32:30)
How CIM played out for Hiruni (41:35)
How Hiruni learned to bet on herself (51:50)
On goal setting in the new year (58:15)

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Nell Rojas on Episode 434 of the Ali on the Run Show

Nell Rojas on Episode 431 of the Ali on the Run Show

Nell Rojas on Episode 229 of the Ali on the Run Show

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465. The 2022 State of the Ali on the Run Show Jan 06, 2022

“I don’t know what the year will bring, but I know I’m going to keep showing up for myself and for all of you.”

In 2021, I released 165 episodes of the Ali on the Run Show with 134 different guests. I welcomed 10 new sponsors to the show, and maintained a strong partnership with eight longtime sponsors. In addition to the "hallmark" Thursday conversations, there was a steady stream of fun series options to choose from, including Love on the Run, On the Job, Ask Ali, What's New With You, Just Missed, Ramblings on the Run, and The Everyday Runner. After a long, pandemic-induced break, I was thrilled to return to in-person live shows in both Boston and New York City, and I hosted two virtual live shows earlier in the year. In October, the show surpassed 10 million downloads. November saw the show's single highest week of downloads, and became the show's highest-ever month of downloads. I hired a new member of the Ali on the Run Show team, and finally (finally!) created and sold merchandise.

It wasn't an easy year. We were — and still are — in this pandemic. I'm still recording all of my episodes remotely, without having face-to-face conversations with the guests. I'm still trying to do a better job of navigating my role in the running industry's problems with racism and representation, and on this episode, you'll hear me acknowledge where I feel I fell short this year.

Today, I offer my annual State of the Ali on the Run Show, reflecting on the past, present, and future of this podcast. I'm here (solo today, and returning with guests next week) to look back on 2021, sharing both the by-the-numbers and beyond-the-numbers looks at the past year. I touch on my personal highlight reel from 2021, and revisit my 2021 goals. I share some key takeaways from the year-end listener survey (thank you to the thousand of you who participated!), and share what you can expect from this show in 2022.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

The Ali on the Run Show in 2021, by the numbers (2:20)
Revisiting my 2021 goals (42:50)
Key takeaways from the 2021 Ali on the Run Show year-end listener survey (51:30)
What you can expect from the Ali on the Run Show in 2022 (1:05:15)

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464. Michelle Wolf, Comedian & Ultramarathoner Dec 30, 2021

“If I’m stuck on a joke, I’ll go for a run and think about it during my run. And almost all the time, I can figure it out on the run.”

Michelle Wolf is a comedian who is best known for her stand-up specials (Michelle Wolf: Joke Show on Netflix, and Michelle Wolf: Nice Lady on HBO), and her roles as a writer and on-air contributor at both The Daily Show with Trevor Noah and Late Night with Seth Meyers. And though she's been successful on the comedy scene for a long time, it was her set as the headliner at the 2018 White House Correspondents' Dinner that really made headlines. Where was she when she got the call about being invited to the dinner? On a run. And what did she do in the aftermath, when life was, as she recalls, "tumultuous?" Go for a run. Michelle is a college high jumper turned avid distance runner, ultramarathoner, and self-proclaimed "track and field super fan." On this episode, she talks about her road to comedy fame, what her joke-writing process is like, and how she deals when rejection and feedback are essential parts of her job. Plus, all about that White House Correspondents' Dinner, including how she came up with the material, what it was like in the moment, and what happened next.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Michelle became a fan of the sport (6:40)
On writing and telling running jokes (15:15)
Is the goal as a comedian to make everyone laugh the entire time? (17:00)
What Michelle was like as a kid (19:20)
How Michelle went from Wall Street to comedy (25:45)
What Michelle’s comedic process is like (39:40)
All about the 2018 White House Correspondents’ Dinner (47:30)
Why that time in Michelle’s life was so “tumultuous” (1:03:20)
What hasn’t Michelle done? (1:09:55)
Michelle’s advice for being more confident (1:17:55)

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463. Jesse Harmon, Founder of Run Hard Dec 28, 2021

A disclaimer, before we get into it: This conversation talks at great length about one man's experience with disordered eating and anorexia. We discuss his eating habits and behaviors, his weight fluctuations, and what worked for him during recovery. As always, I want you to take care of yourselves and your hearts, and if for any reason these topics are hard for you to hear about right now, please consider listening cautiously or skipping this episode.

“They looked me straight in the eye and said, ‘You’re dying.’ And I didn’t believe them.”

Jesse Harmon is a 12-time marathoner with a 2:58 personal best in the distance. He's a dad of four, living with his wife and kids in South Carolina, where he's the founder of Run Hard — an after-school program for kids, where the goal is to create self-confidence through running. And though Jesse is a talented runner and an eager role model, the road there hasn't been easy. In 2013, Jesse was diagnosed with anorexia. His doctors told him he was going to die if he kept living the way he was living. On this episode, Jesse shares his story — the highs, the lows, the scary parts, and the light bulb moment that got him to finally commit to recovery. Plus, where he's at now in what he calls this "lifelong race."

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462: The 2020 Virtual Live Show Holiday Party with Shalane Flanagan, Des Linden, & Aisha Praught Leer Dec 23, 2021

“Holiday songs are my passion.” —Aisha Praught Leer

One year ago, we closed out 2020 on the Ali on the Run Show with a holiday party of sorts. It was virtual, with a 500-person Zoom audience, a Schitt's Creek-inspired soundtrack, and an all-star guest lineup: Shalane Flanagan, Des Linden, and Aisha Praught Leer. We sat in front of our Christmas trees (Shalane wore holiday pajamas!), and indulged in 90 minutes of warm, fuzzy feelings. It felt like what we all needed at the time. And now, more than 365 days later, it seems like we might need those good feelings again. So, I'm releasing the episode to the public for the very first time. Whether you were there with us when the show first happened, or you're tuning in for the first time now, I hope this conversation brings you some holiday cheer. Shalane, Des, and Aisha talk about their holiday traditions, their earliest memories of happiness and joy, and what kept them motivated during peak pandemic times. (We also surprised Shalane, Des, and Aisha with a video that included tons of clips from their loved ones, and though you can't see the video here, listening in is still pretty fun, and you can see the names of all the guests, in order, below.)

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The video guest list (they're all past Ali on the Run Show guests!), in order of "appearance:"

Will Leer (Aisha’s husband)

Laura Thweatt (Aisha’s former teammate and close friend)

Courtney Frerichs (Shalane’s athlete and friend)

Gwen Jorgensen (Shalane’s athlete and friend)

Ryan Linden (Des’s husband)

Mary Kate Shea (Des’s friend)

Elise Cranny (Shalane’s athlete)

Listen to Des on the Ali on the Run Show:

Episode 363

Episode 205: Love on the Run with Des & Ryan Linden

Sara Hall on Episode 321 of the Ali on the Run Show

Listen to Shalane on the Ali on the Run Show:

Episode 438

Episode 242

Listen to Aisha on the Ali on the Run Show:

Episode 415

Episode 204

Episode 197

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461. Makenna Myler, Professional Distance Runner Dec 21, 2021

“That seems to have diminished quite a bit since having a baby. The outcomes really don’t matter. It’s just so much more about who I’m becoming as I’m trying to reach these goals. It’s so cliché, right — the journey. But it really is true. The journey and who you’re becoming are just so much more important.”

Last year, Makenna Myler went viral when she ran a mile in five minutes and 25 seconds — at nine months pregnant. On this episode, Makenna talks about that day, and about the bet she had with her husband that motivated the run. She also talks about the aftermath of going viral, and the criticism she received just days before going into labor. Today, Makenna is mom to one-year-old Kenny Lou, and she's had a strong comeback on the run. She qualified for the Olympic Track & Field Trials in the 10K, competed at the Trials and finished 14th (her goal was to finish in the top 15!), won the Deseret News Half Marathon (and set a course record in the process), and signed a professional contract with Asics. Most recently, Makenna ran the TCS New York City Marathon — and she's hungry for more. Plus, Makenna talks about her expectations about running and motherhood, and shares what the reality has been like for her.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

When Makenna gets out for her runs (5:50)
Makenna’s tradition of racing a mile at important times in her life (7:10)
The dare, the mile, and the aftermath (10:00)
On the decision to have children when you are a professional athlete (21:00)
Makenna’s expectations about running and motherhood, and how the reality compares (26:30)
Makenna’s quest to qualify for the Olympic Track & Field Trials, and what it was like competing at the Trials (29:30)
On signing with Asics (40:30)
Makenna’s experience at this year’s New York City Marathon (48:00)
What’s on Makenna’s mind now (56:30)

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460. Sika Henry, Professional Triathlete Dec 16, 2021

“I hit a severe low. I went through a bout of depression, actually. I felt lost, in some ways. I had this dream and this goal, and I was so focused, and then I achieved it…and then it was like I didn’t have anything.”

Earlier this year, Sika Henry made history, becoming the first African American woman to become a professional triathlete. She's an Ironman, an ultramarathoner (she just completed the JFK 50 Mile last month), and a Hoka-sponsored athlete. But the road to trailblazing status hasn't been without its challenges. In 2019, Sika was competing at an Ironman 70.3 event in Texas when she crashed her bike and had to be rushed to the hospital. On this episode, she recalls that day, and talks about the road to getting back on the bike, and back to herself. She talks about earning her triathlon pro card this year, and about dealing with a bout of depression afterward. Plus, all about the breakup that inspired her to get her start in triathlon (relatable!), what it was like completing the JFK 50 Mile, and why representation is so important to her. (For more from Sika, check out her recent profile in the New York Times.)

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What you’ll get on this episode:

On working full-time and being a professional triathlete (2:15)
Why Sika wanted to run the JFK 50 (5:25)
Sika’s JFK 50 race plan (11:45)
Sika’s JFK 50 recap (16:00)
How the ultra community compares to the triathlon community, in Sika’s experience (22:00)
Sika’s highlight reel (27:00)
All about Sika’s family and childhood (30:15)
How Sika got into triathlon (39:35)
Sika’s bike accident in 2019 (41:30)
All about Sika’s first Ironman at World Championships in Kona (46:50)
On becoming the first African American woman to earn her triathlon pro card (50:00)
Sika talks about making her pro debut (56:15)
What Sika wants to do next (1:00:25)

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459. Sara Hall's 2021 Recap Dec 15, 2021

“We all want love and belonging at the end of the day. And so when you feel like your love and belonging is threatened if you fail…at a young age I started to really become afraid of that.”

We kicked off 2021 on the Ali on the Run Show with professional runner Sara Hall, and today, Sara is back to recap the highs and lows of her year, both on the run (wins and podiums!) and off (getting Covid early in the year and dealing with a long recovery). Sara talks about her win at the NYRR Mini 10K, her fifth-place finish at the U.S. Olympic Track & Field Trials 10K, and her third-place finish at the Chicago Marathon in October. She also talks about supporting her daughters in their endeavors, whether on the sidelines at their races or in mother-daughter hip-hop classes. Plus, a look ahead at 2022 and Sara's hopes and dreams as a member of the World Championship Marathon team.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

On the pursuit of the perfect hip-hop class (4:15)
On daughter Mia’s recent race and the responses to Sara’s post about it (6:15)
Reflecting on running The Marathon Project one year ago (8:40)
How Sara’s handling her current downtime, and what Sara’s like on the sidelines while her daughters are racing (11:35)
How Sara plans and balances her race calendar (17:45)
Has Sara ever felt fully satisfied after a race? (19:30)
On training with Emma Coburn in Crested Butte before the Olympic Track & Field Trials (25:30)
Looking back on the U.S. Olympic Track & Field Trials (28:00)
Reflecting on this year’s Chicago Marathon, and on learning to cope with outside expectation and pressure (35:00)
The moment from the Chicago Marathon that Sara remembers most (47:20)
What hasn’t Sara done yet? (50:40)
Sara’s High / Low / High from 2021 (56:00)

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Sara Hall on Episode 300 of the Ali on the Run Show

Sara and Ryan Hall on Episode 144 of the Ali on the Run Show

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458. The Everyday Runners, Julia Berteletti & Robyn Mayer Dec 14, 2021

“Women really only get tougher. I’ve figured that out myself, and I’ve figured that out watching others. I don’t really put a limit at this point of what being a mom and being a runner means anymore.”

Welcome to the fifth and final episode in Season 2 of the Everyday Runner series. And today, we're getting a two-for-one deal, with Denver-based running best friends Robyn Mayer and Julia Berteletti! This warm-fuzzy-filled episode is all about the power of female friendships, both on the run and beyond. Julia and Robyn met through Twitter (remember those days?!) a decade ago, and eventually met in real life when they both moved to Colorado and started working out with November Project. On this episode, they share their real-life meet-cute moment, and talk about why they hit it off right away. They talk about their expectations about running after having children, and about the reality. Julia is mom to three-year-old Max, and talks about her hopes to have a second child, and the three miscarriages she has suffered along the way. Robyn is mom to two-year-old Rosie, and talks about her experience with Crohn's disease and how it affects her every day. Both women just ran CIM as their first marathons since becoming moms, so they reflect on how marathon training is different with a little one at home when you are also working full-time outside the home. Plus, what they talk about on the run together, and all about their Shalane Flanagan and Abby Wambach moment at CIM.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Julia and Robyn share their CIM recaps (5:00)
What it was like marathon training as a parent vs. pre-parenthood training (19:30)
Robyn’s experience with Crohn’s disease (24:15)
What Young Julia was like (29:25)
What Young Robyn was like (30:40)
How Julia and Robyn each found running (34:15)
How Julia and Robyn met (40:20)
When Julia and Robyn get their runs in (46:40)
On family planning when you’re a runner with big dreams and goals (49:10)
The running highlight reels, and what Julia and Robyn are looking forward to and dreaming about now (53:30)

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457. Ask Ali! Dec 10, 2021

"I know that for me to run well, I need to be happy, I need to not be stressed, I need to be relaxed, and I need to know that the time on the clock does not define me as a human."

Welcome to Ask Ali, a twice-a-month series where I answer all of your questions. This time around — the last Ask Ali of the year! — we’ve got listener questions about early morning running, my favorite winter running gear, what to do when training feels discouraging, how I decide who to feature on the podcast, and more. Thanks to everyone who called in for this one. Enjoy!

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You asked:

Tips for morning running (3:00)
What I wear when I run in the dark (10:00)
My favorite pieces of running gear (14:45)
My favorite running songs and playlists (17:50)
What to do when you’re feeling discouraged instead of empowered after a workout (23:25)
How I decide who to interview on the show, and how I get in touch with them (31:45)
What to look for in a running coach (38:50)

I mentioned:

Amphipod light vest

Noxgear light vest

Millennium Running code

Headlamp

Hoka Cliftons

lululemon socks

lululemon Base Pace tight

Tracksmith Brighton Base Layer

Down For It All vest and jacket

lululemon earwarmer

lululemon gloves

lululemon Wunder Train Long Line bra

Ali's Spotify playlists

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456. Talya Minsberg, New York Times Sports Editor Dec 09, 2021

“It was so cool, and so weird, and it’s still hard to describe.”

For many sports journalists — especially the ones who cover running — New York City Marathon week is arguably the busiest of the year. That was certainly true for New York Times sports editor Talya Minsberg, who not only covered the race and many of the stories leading up to it, but also ran the marathon herself (and earned a Boston Marathon qualifying time in the process!). On this episode, Talya reflects on that week, sharing the stories she was most excited to tell (notably, the one about Tommy Rivers Puzey's comeback), and stories from her own race. She talks about what her days look like writing, editing, and managing the NYT Running newsletter. Plus, tales from the Met Gala, the Tokyo Olympics, and the Times comment section.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What’s making Talya happy right now? (5:00)
What Talya’s busiest week of the year was like (6:00)
All about that Tommy Rivers Puzey story (14:30)
What Talya’s reporting process is like (18:45)
The stories that give Talya butterflies (24:50)
What it was like running the virtual NYC Marathon in 2020, and how it compared to this year’s in-person race (29:00)
What it was like being at the Tokyo Olympics this summer (31:30)
Talya shares her career highlight reel (40:00)
What Talya was like growing up, and how she got the job at the New York Times (45:00)
On being a comment moderator for the New York Times (53:40)
How Talya spends her days now (55:50)
Talya’s take on the uneven coverage of women’s vs. men’s sports in the media (57:15)
The running stories Talya is excited about right now (1:03:30)
The New York Times piece Talya thinks everyone should read (1:07:30)

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Erin Azar in the New York Times

Tommy Rivers Puzey in the New York Times

"Why Are American Women Running Faster Than Ever? We Asked Them — Hundreds of Them"

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455. The Everyday Runner, Molly Burke Dec 07, 2021

“We all just decided, we need to keep moving. We can’t just stay here and wallow in this. Obviously we’ll still be grieving, but we all made the decision that we had to just do the best we could.”

Today's episode in the Everyday Runner series is extra special: Molly Burke is here, and she is the newest member of the Ali on the Run Show team! (Merch! Events! A retreat! A live show tour! All in the works, thanks to Molly!) Molly's story — both on the run and off — is a powerful one. On this episode, Molly talks about her family, about her dad (Brian Burke, president of hockey operations for the Pittsburgh Penguins) being big time in the NHL, and about the close bond she shares with her siblings. She talks about the impact her dad's very public career had on her and her siblings growing up, and shares the story of her brother, Brendan, privately and publicly coming out as gay, and being the first NHL-affiliated person to do so. Tragically, Brendan was killed in a car accident just three months later. Molly talks about leaning into running as a way to help cope with her grief, and talks about being an advocate and ally for the LGBTQ+ community. (Come for the inspiration. Stay for the story about 19-year-old Molly getting kicked out of a Bruins game for standing up to a group of men using homophobic slurs.) Plus, Molly talks about her career working at Edelman and TripAdvisor, and talks about why she was hesitant to join a run group or group fitness class — and how she got over it.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What running looks like for Molly right now (4:45)
What Molly’s childhood was like (14:30)
How Molly is like her dad, and how she’s like her mom (23:10)
All about Molly’s brother, Brendan (25:00)
How Molly found running (42:00)
On being an advocate and ally for the LGBTQ+ community (49:30)
What it was like running the virtual Boston Marathon last year, and raising more than $11,000 for You Can Play (54:00)
Molly’s running and racing highlights (1:01:30)

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Katie Burke on Episode 327 of the Ali on the Run Show

Katie Burke on Episode 252 of the Ali on the Run Show

Katie Burke on Episode 84 of the Ali on the Run Show

Katie Burke on Episode 70 of the Ali on the Run Show

MyStryd Boston

"We love you, this won't change a thing."

You Can Play Project

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454. Ramblings on the Run with Ali & Matt Dec 06, 2021

“I ran that fresh off a breakup, fueled by vodka and cute bartenders. I was not in a good headspace, and I rage ran — and I loved it. But now, I run better when I'm very happy.”

We're back! After an eight-month hiatus, Ramblings on the Run returns! On these episodes, Matt Chittim — host of the Rambling Runner podcast and the Road to the Trials podcast — and I catch up on how our running is going, share what we’re loving right now, and talk about what we’re excited about. And then, in our fourth segment, we play a game of "High, Low, High," sharing our high and low points from 2021 both personally and in the running industry.

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In It for the Long Run by Damian Hall

Be There in Five podcast

Grayson Murphy on Episode 450 of the Ali on the Run Show

My 2021 New York City Marathon Experience

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453. Ask Ali! Dec 03, 2021

"Get holiday cheer whenever and wherever and however you want. I support that. I support all of the cheer and sparkles and glitter."

Welcome to Ask Ali, a twice-a-month series where I answer all of your questions. This time around, we’ve got listener questions about my relationship with my mom, how I got into running, holiday celebrations, merchandise, and more. (Plus, a very special guest!) Thanks to everyone who called in for this one. Enjoy!

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You asked:

How did my mom and I become so close? (2:30)
What happened to Ramblings on the Run? (22:30)
How did I get into running? (23:50)
Have I ever considered having Ali on the Run merchandise? (29:45)
Do I really not drink coffee? (33:15)
Team holiday music after Halloween or Thanksgiving? (35:50)
Will I be doing another listener survey? (39:30)

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452. Alexi Pappas, New York City Marathoner Dec 02, 2021

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“I just started to leap — like a prancing dancer across one of the intersections. And the crowd just lit up and went crazy… And I realized, this is fun!”

There were more than 30,000 runners at this year's New York City Marathon. But it feels safe to say that no one had more fun on that course than professional runner and Olympian Alexi Pappas. On this episode, Alexi recounts her joyful journey from Staten Island to Central Park. She talks about her plans and goals for the day, and shares the story of how she made a friend — Vito — at mile three, with whom she went on to run the entire rest of the race. She talks about leaning into fun, about channeling her true inner self on the run, and about the life-changing advice she got from Jenny Simpson after the race. Plus, how she's coped with the post-marathon comedown, and why she wants people to stop asking professional runners what's next.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

The New York City Marathon comedown (4:00)
Alexi’s favorite moment from the marathon (12:35)
On marrying competitive drive and joy (26:30)
All about running with Vito (32:30)
The finish line feeling (35:00)
Alexi’s advice for how to make your next race more fun (42:30)

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Alexi Pappas on Episode 330 of the Ali on the Run Show

Alexi Pappas on Episode 296 of the Ali on the Run Show

Alexi Pappas on Episode 163 of the Ali on the Run Show

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451. The Everyday Runner, Lara Kondor Nov 30, 2021

“I just had to keep moving forward… I never let myself stop and wallow in it, because I was afraid that if I did, I’d never stop. I just had to keep going. So I did.”

Lara Kondor is — and always has been — tough. She's a 46-year-old ultra-running mom of three who lives in New Hampshire, and on this episode, she talks about how she found running, and about the powerful role running has played in her life. Lara is a 13-time marathoner and nine-time ultramarathoner, with dreams of hitting the 100-mile mark in a single event. (Her longest so far is 92 miles at The Hamsterwheel 24-hour race.) Both on the run and off, Lara is a full-time caregiver for her oldest child, Noah, who is 25 and was diagnosed with autism at three years old. Noah is mostly nonverbal, but running has given him a new way to communicate. In this conversation, Lara talks about Noah's diagnosis, about new motherhood, and about how they started running together. She talks about asking for help, about accepting help, and about seeing Noah thrive (and get faster!) on the run.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

All about Lara’s childhood growing up in Florida (4:15)
On having children at a young age, and what it was like getting Noah’s autism diagnosis when he was three years old (6:20)
How Lara found running (17:25)
Why Lara loves running ultras — on a track (31:40)
How Noah found running (36:00)
Why Lara and Noah joined the Millennium Running Club (42:30)
What’s next for Lara and Noah? (55:40)

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450. Grayson Murphy, Mountain Running World Champion Nov 29, 2021

“If I can make someone else get comfortable and they can get the help they need, that seems like mission accomplished to me.”

Grayson Murphy just may be the most versatile professional runner in the country right now. This year alone, Grayson has taken home wins on the trails, the track, and the roads. She won Saucony's Fast Future 10K in Germany, won her heat in the 3000m steeplechase at the U.S. Olympic Track & Field Trials (and ultimately finished sixth in the finals), won the USATF Mountain Running Championships, won the Deseret News 10K, and earned herself a personal best in the mile. On this episode, we cover all of the highlights from Grayson's fast, fun year, and talk about the tough stuff along the way. Grayson talks about dealing with race anxiety, shares her thoughts on the emotional side of running, and offers advice for thriving in a long-distance relationship. (Yay love language talk!) She talks about her passion for rest days, her love for journaling (check out her line of 2022 planners here!), and what's next on the run. (Hint: The word marathon came up an awful lot in this conversation...)

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What you’ll get on this episode:

All about Grayson’s morning run (3:00)
Grayson talks about her race at the Abbott Dash to the Finish Line 5K in New York City (4:30)
Riding in the lead vehicle during the TCS New York City Marathon — and Grayson’s thoughts on an eventual marathon debut (6:20)
Now what? (13:10)
Why Grayson loves rest days (15:20)
Grayson’s 2021 highlight reel, and what makes racing fun for her (21:20)
All about Grayson’s line of planners, and her own mental health journey (24:40)
How Grayson processed this summer’s U.S. Olympic Track & Field Trials outcome (32:45)
Grayson’s favorite drug testing story (41:30)
The anti-highlight reel (43:00)
Trail running vs. the roads and the track (46:40)
How Grayson reflects on her decision to leave HOKA and NAZ Elite after a year at the beginning of her professional career (48:45)
Grayson’s biggest hopes and dreams, on the run and off (52:40)

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449. Elyse Kopecky, Marathoner Nov 24, 2021

"There was never a low point for me. Is that weird?!"

Two weeks before this year's New York City Marathon, Elyse Kopecky was on the Ali on the Run Show with best friend Shalane Flanagan, talking all about their NYC Marathon plans and dreams, and about the release of their third cookbook, Rise & Run. Now, Elyse is back — and she's officially a marathoner! On this episode, Elyse shares every detail of her debut marathon experience. She talks about the highs and lows of training, about the struggle of being a mom pulled in many directions at all times, and about traveling to New York City alone. She reflects on the excitement of Rise & Run becoming a New York Times best-seller the same week as the marathon, and breaks down her race week. Then, she talks about lining up on the top of the Verrazzano Bridge next to Shalane, and about meeting her at the finish line 3 hours, 32 minutes, and 28 seconds later. Plus, all the excitement of the 26.2 miles in between.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

On Rise & Run making the New York Times best-seller list the week of the marathon (3:00)
Elyse shares her pre-NYC knowledge (5:00)
The highs and lows of training (8:00)
All the new things Elyse did before race day (11:15)
What it was like lining up at the start line next to Shalane (16:30)
All about the race! (20:00)
That finish line feeling (29:30)
How Elyse celebrated her marathon finish (34:00)
“The biggest thing that was new on race day” (39:45)
Now what? (44:30)

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448. The Everyday Runner, Adalgisa Rivera Nov 23, 2021

"I just loved what I saw. I felt seen. I felt heard. There were so many people that looked like me, or they had similar journeys. They were in a transitional point in their lives, and fitness was part of that. So I just kept coming back."

This week on the Everyday Runner series, meet Adalgisa (best known as "Lisa") Rivera. Not only did Lisa and I record this episode just a few days after she completed the New York City Marathon, we also did so on Veteran's Day — an especially meaningful day for Lisa, who served in the U.S. Army National Guard for eight years. On this episode, Lisa shares her emotional NYC Marathon recap, and talks about how she first found running several years ago. (It involved being dragged to a Harlem Run workout "kicking and screaming." Fast forward a few years, and Lisa is now a five-time marathoner and pacer for Harlem Run.) She talks about her childhood, and about discovering the importance of community. And she talks about getting her master's degree in social work, and pursuing a career working in child welfare. Plus, all about her experience at the TransRockies Run this summer (and why she wants to double that distance in 2022), and why it's so important for Lisa to be a "change agent" in her community.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Lisa reflects on her time serving in the military (4:10)
Lisa’s emotional New York City Marathon recap (17:00)
What Lisa’s childhood was like, and how she got into social work (27:00)
How Lisa found running (39:30)
What’s next for Lisa? (59:50)

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447. Cortney White, Professional Photographer Nov 19, 2021

"This was something I would never pass up. It’s the opportunity of a lifetime to document these moments."

Cortney White has a unique lens on the running world — literally. Cortney is a professional photographer who just spent the past two months on the road with Shalane Flanagan, documenting every step of her Project Eclipse journey. On this episode, Cortney talks about how she got involved with this project, and shares her own highlights, challenges, and most memorable moments from the six-marathons-in-six-cities experience. She also talks about getting started in the industry, about the camaraderie among running photographers, and about why she wants to get cameras in the hands of more women. Plus, behind-the-scenes stories from her adventures, all about her #vanlife, and her answer to whether she's ever missed a major moment on camera.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

All about Cortney’s #vanlife (4:00)
How Cortney got involved with Project Eclipse (6:00)
Seeing that giant billboard in NYC (12:30)
The logistical side of Project Eclipse (15:20)
Cortney’s favorite photo from Project Eclipse (29:45)
Project Eclipse superlatives! (32:55)
The camaraderie among professional photographers (35:30)
All about that Abby Wambach and Glennon Doyle moment at the New York City Marathon (48:50)
How Cortney got her start as a photographer (51:50)
On working with the Bowerman Track Club during a difficult year (59:45)
Cortney’s favorite part of the job and the ultimate dream assignment (1:02:30)

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446. Erin "Mrs. Space Cadet" Azar, New York City Marathoner Nov 18, 2021

"My whole life, I didn’t think I was funny or anything. So when people say that, or when they say I inspire them, my brain is immediately like, 'No, no you don't, don’t listen, they’re lying!' The New York City Marathon completely changed that for me. Meeting people in person for the first time…it really made it real for me."

She's baaaaack — and this time, she's a New York City Marathoner! Erin Azar — best known online as Mrs. Space Cadet — became a viral sensation when she started running after having her third child, documenting the process for her TikTok and YouTube fans. Erin was on the Ali on the Run Show in February talking about her rise to internet superstardom. Now, she returns to the show as an official New York City Marathoner. On this episode, Erin shares all the details from her New York City experience, from the pre-race adventures on foot to the journey to the start line, and every meaningful step in between the Verrazzano Bridge and the finish line. Along the way, Erin raised more than $76,000 for Team Fox, which supports Parkinson's disease research — a cause close to Erin's heart, since her dad lives with Parkinson's. (Her goal is to hit $100,000, and they are accepting donations until the end of the month. Click here to help get Erin a few dollars closer to $100K!) Watch Erin's full recap from the day here. Dare you not to cry at the 13-minute mark!

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How it feels to be a New York City Marathoner (2:30)
The moment from NYC that Erin keeps going back to in her mind (6:00)
Erin’s journey to the New York City Marathon (12:30)
Training reflections (17:15)
How the day before the race played out (25:00)
The journey to the start line (33:45)
What was going through Erin’s head at the start, and what she thought about the Verrazzano Bridge (40:00)
Erin’s journey through Brooklyn, Queens, Manhattan, and the Bronx (44:00)
That finish line feeling (59:00)
All about appearing on the Today show on Marathon Monday (1:05:00)
What’s next for Erin? (1:09:00)

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445. The Everyday Runner, Chloe Rosen Nov 16, 2021

“Running doesn’t break us. It teaches us to bend.”

By very popular demand: Welcome to Season 2 of The Everyday Runner series! For the next five weeks, we'll hear from runners who are just like you and me. They are women who love running and who care about it deeply — but they don't do this professionally, and they have jobs, families, responsibilities, and busy lives off the run. They are the everyday runner.

To kick off Season 2, meet Chloe Rosen! Chloe is the real-life runner behind the popular "Your Best Running Friend" Instagram account. And no wonder it's funny: Chloe is an actor and comedian whose work has been featured on Comedy Central, Funny or Die, and College Humor! (Check out her hit web series "Dating My TV.") On this episode, Chloe talks about her road to improv and sketch comedy greatness, and about how she found running along the way. (It involves a breakup. Relatable!) She talks about how her relationship with her body has ebbed and flowed over the years, about learning not to compare herself to Past Chloe, and about how she was feeling before running the New York City Marathon last weekend.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

On the post-wedding comedown — and how it compares to the post-race comedown (5:15)
What Chloe’s childhood was like (10:15)
On teaching English in India, and how it changed Chloe’s life (22:25)
How Chloe broke into comedy (31:20)
How Chloe found running (44:25)
All about “Your Best Running Friend” (50:00)
How Chloe’s relationship with running has evolved (58:50)
Pre-NYC Marathon thoughts (1:06:15)

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444. Emma Bates, 2nd Place Finisher at the Chicago Marathon Nov 12, 2021

“I really want to represent the country, and I want to make that the focus of my entire year.”

Last month, Emma Bates was among the thousands of runners who ran the Chicago Marathon on a very hot, very humid day. But the weather didn't bring her down: Emma finished second that day, earning herself a spot on the podium and a new personal best time in the marathon (2:24:20). On this episode, the professional runner for Asics reflects on that day in Chicago, and shares the lessons she learned when the running got tough. She talks about her emotional 2020, including missing a spot on Team USA at the U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials, and then traveling to Europe afterward and getting a bad case of Covid-19 (which she hates talking about). Then, she talks about returning to the roads for the Marathon Project, and about her decision to join Team Boss and to be coached by Joe Bosshard. Plus, all about her weekend spectating at the TCS New York City Marathon (where she was best friend Laura Thweatt's "person"), and her excitement about earning a spot on next year's world championship team in the marathon.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

On being Laura Thweatt’s “person” during the New York City Marathon (4:00)
How Emma celebrated after the Chicago Marathon, and how recovery is going (12:00)
Emma’s 2022 plans, hopes, and dreams (18:30)
What Emma remembers most from Chicago (21:10)
Emma’s pre-race conversation with coach Joe Bosshard, what Emma’s like on race day, and all about “methodical patience” (25:30)
When the race got hard (29:00)
On running and grief (33:00)
What the last mile of the Chicago Marathon was like, and what happened after the race (36:00)
Reflecting on the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials, and getting Covid after (45:00)
Reflecting on the 2020 Marathon Project (51:00)
All about joining Team Boss (52:00)
On being an emotional runner (1:00:00)
What’s next for Emma? (1:02:00)

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443. My 2021 New York City Marathon Experience Nov 11, 2021

“I love what I do. I didn’t know any of these jobs existed a few years ago. I didn’t know I could be a podcaster, I didn’t know I could be a race announcer. Now that I’m not only doing them, but I feel really fulfilled…and I know that can be fleeting. So I’m really basking in it.”

After more than 700 days, the TCS New York City Marathon was back this weekend! And I had the best week ever — without even running the marathon! On this episode, I'm talking all about my week in New York City, where I did my best to master the balance between work and pleasure. (I'm giving myself a solid A+ on that assignment.) I talk (in excessive detail) about all of the work and all of the play, from live shows and finish line race announcing to earning a new 5K PR, galavanting around the city, and seeing as many friends as possible. And, unsurprisingly, I shed a few tears along the way.

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All about my week in New York City (1:45)
Listener Q&A (1:08:45)

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442. LIVE from the New York City Marathon Nov 06, 2021

"I wasn't going to let a few bad laps on a circle in Asia redefine how I feel about myself. And I've been that way with the good things, too. The last Olympics, I was on a circle in South America and it went differently, it went great. And it's fun, and it's way more fun to do well, but also, this is a game. I'm choosing to commit my life to this game, and sometimes you win and sometimes you lose."

It's New York City Marathon week! And I had the pleasure of getting to host a live show with New Balance at the 1 Hotel Central Park South with an all-star panel of guests: professional athletes Emma Coburn and Dani Jones, Peloton instructor Selena Samuela, and Stolen Starts ambassador Lizeth Aparicio. This wide-ranging conversation covered everything from the highlight reel to the blooper reel. Emma talked about processing this year's Olympics, Dani talked about transitioning from a college all-star to a professional athlete, Selena talked about the pressure to perform live to thousands of fans, and Lizeth talked about the intersection of running and activism in her life. Big thanks to everyone who joined us in that beautiful room, and good luck to everyone running the greatest marathon in the world. You got this!

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441. Ask Ali! Nov 05, 2021

"I don’t 'have it all.' I have toilet paper in my pocket for Crohn’s disease emergencies."

Welcome to Ask Ali, a twice-a-month series where I answer all of your questions. This time around, we’ve got listener questions about "having it all," wedding planning, early morning races, podcast sponsorship, and more. Thanks to everyone who called in for this one. Enjoy!

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On the topic of “having it all” (6:10)
All about wedding planning (16:25)
All about the 2022 Clearwater Running Festival (24:30)
How would I pick the marathon world teams? (30:50)
My must-haves for a one-year-old child (34:40)
How to prepare for an early race start (39:50)
What does it mean when a podcast episode is sponsored? (42:55)

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440. Catching Up with Laura Thweatt Nov 04, 2021

"I can do this. I am more capable than I give myself credit for. I can bet on myself. I can show up on race day, on that start line, and be confident in what I’ve done and know there’s no reason why I can’t go out there and have the race of my life."

The last time Laura Thweatt was on the Ali on the Run Show, she had just finished fifth at the U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials in Atlanta. (Listen to that episode here.) She was running professionally for Saucony (still true) and training with coach Joe Bosshard and the Team Boss crew in Boulder, CO (no longer true!). On this episode, Laura offers an update on life after Team Boss. She talks about her decision to step away from her training group, and shares the news about her new coach and training plan. She also talks all about the work she's done leading up to this weekend's New York City Marathon. Laura is a 2:25 marathoner who made her marathon debut in New York City in 2015. Now, she's heading back to the start line in Staten Island with big goals, big dreams, and some big life changes happening behind the scenes. Plus, reality TV talk, Laura's hilarious story of her interaction with Des Linden after the Trials, and so much more.

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439. Dr. Abby Bales Takeover Edition Nov 02, 2021

"You’re honestly doing a really good job. I know all you see is all the ways you think you’re failing. But I promise, you’re doing OK, and no one has it all figured out, despite what you see on Instagram! Stop scrolling. Read a book."

In 2019, I interviewed Dr. Abby Bales — a pelvic floor physical therapist and the owner and founder of Reform Physical Therapy — as part of the Ali on the Run Show's Motherhood Mondays series. Ever since, Abby has asked when I would be willing to flip the script; when I would be willing to hand over the microphone so I could answer her questions. And today is that day. Welcome to the Dr. Abby on the Run Show! On this episode, Abby is in control, asking me questions about Crohn's disease, motherhood, life with a chronic illness, running, career stuff, and how they all intersect. (Listen to Dr. Abby's previous conversations on the Ali on the Run Show here, here, and here.)

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Why now? (4:40)
My Crohn’s disease story (7:45)
On Crohn’s and the decision to have children (10:45)
My experience with postpartum anxiety… (16:00)
…and my decision to finally start therapy (20:45)
On having a support system (29:30)
Do I worry about Annie getting Crohn’s? (36:15)
Talking to Annie about feelings (48:20)
How having a chronic illness has made me more resilient, and helped me better relate with people (52:00)
How Crohn’s disease has affected my career (58:00)
How living in New Hampshire has helped my health (1:01:15)
What goals now seem possible? (1:06:00)

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438. Shalane Flanagan & Elyse Kopecky, Best Friends & Best-Selling Authors Oct 28, 2021

"It’s been fun to stand on the start line with really good friends and just feel like we’re a team, in this together."

Shalane Flanagan and Elyse Kopecky are best friends — best friends who run, bake, and co-author best-selling cookbooks together! On this episode, Shalane and Elyse are here to talk about their latest cookbook (available now!), Rise & Run. They talk about the unexpected success and popularity of their Superhero Muffins, and admit that they never thought anyone would publish their first cookbook (Run Fast, Eat Slow), let alone turn it into a three-book series. They share their friendship story (and stories about tequila), talk about how motherhood has changed their relationship, and talk about how they're celebrating their 40th birthdays this year. Shalane talks about Project Eclipse — her quest to run all six World Marathon Majors in 42 days — and about how she's feeling heading in her sixth and final race, the New York City Marathon next weekend. And Elyse talks about training for her marathon debut, also in NYC. Lots to celebrate on this episode, from muffins and marathons to motherhood and more!

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Shalane and Elyse are feeling heading into the New York City Marathon (4:30)
All about Rise & Run (7:15)
Shalane talks “taper” (14:45)
Shalane and Elyse talk NYC Marathon plans (20:20)
Shalane and Elyse share their friendship story (24:40)
What runs with Shalane and Elyse are like (35:00)
How Shalane and Elyse’s friendship has changed since becoming mothers (39:35)
On Shalane’s “runway looks” for Project Eclipse (48:40)
Shalane reflects on her Project Eclipse training (55:50)
Shalane’s New York City Marathon advice (58:15)
Why Rise & Run is dedicated to parents and caregivers (1:04:45)

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437. The CIM OTQ Pacers Take on the Boston Marathon Oct 26, 2021

“You have to honor the race by going and trying to do the best you possibly can.”

In December 2019, three men — Menso de Jong, Chris Stehula, and Ken Rakestraw — led 72 women to Olympic Trials qualifying times at the California International Marathon. Soon after, they came on the Ali on the Run Show to share their stories. Before CIM, neither Menso, Chris, nor Ken had ever run 2:45 marathons before. But that day, they pulled it off. And, in the process of doing so, they each earned themselves Boston Marathon qualifying times. So now, Menso, Chris, and Ken are back on the Ali on the Run Show for another race recap episode — but this one is different. This time, the only people they were pacing were themselves, and there were plenty of highs, lows, and backward walks along the way. Enjoy hearing about their race day strategies (most of which did not go according to plan), what the rolling start in Boston was really like, and what lessons they learned on the course that day.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How everyone’s feeling after Boston (6:45)
The desire to run Boston (10:30)
What training for Boston looked like (13:30)
Everyone’s plans for Boston (26:45)
What the start was like (37:00)
How the race broke down for everyone (44:15)
Highs and lows from the day (52:25)

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436. CJ Albertson, "The Guy Who Led the Boston Marathon for 21 Miles" Oct 25, 2021

“It was a win-win either way. If they go with me, they’re running my race, and that’s great. And if they don’t go with me, I have a huge lead at Boston, and that’s pretty awesome, too!”

If you watched the 2021 Boston Marathon, you got to know CJ Albertson — or at least his face — pretty well. That's because CJ, who runs professionally for Brooks Running, took the lead in the men's elite race right from the start, and held it for 21 miles. He ran solo that entire time, gapping the rest of the field by two minutes at one point. After 21 miles, the pack caught up to CJ — who was also celebrating his birthday that day — but he was able to hang in and ultimately finished 10th. Those 21 miles at the front may have put CJ on the Boston map, but he's hardly new to the running scene. The California native is a 2:11 marathoner and cross-country and track coach at Clovis Community College. In 2019, he completed the indoor marathon world record challenge in 2 hours 17 minutes and 59 seconds. (That's 26.2 miles, indoors, on a 200-meter track!) Then, in 2020, CJ set an all-surface 50K world best time of 2:42:30, which he also ran on a track. CJ loves pursuing the fun side of running, and is always up for a challenge, whether it's leading the Boston Marathon or topping the leaderboard of every Peloton class he takes. All that and more, on this episode of the Ali on the Run Show.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What CJ’s Boston recovery has been like (2:30)
On feeling like a star (6:30)
What the day before the race was like (8:30)
On praying before the race (17:00)
What it was like walking to the start line (23:50)
CJ’s race plan, and how it played out (26:20)
On gapping the field — by two minutes — and eventually getting caught by the pack (35:15)
That finish line feeling (48:15)
CJ’s love for Peloton (50:55)
What’s next? (57:40)

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435. Ask Ali! Oct 22, 2021

“I think being sensitive can be a strength in many ways. It’s OK to be sensitive. It’s OK to be emotional. It’s OK to have feelings. It’s OK to care.”

Welcome to Ask Ali, a twice-a-month series where I answer all of your questions. This time around, we’ve got listener questions about Center Stage (best movie ever), my ideal desserts, recent impulse purchases, finding a running coach, dealing with difficult people, and more. Thanks to everyone who called in for this one. Enjoy!

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You asked:

Will I ever come run CIM? (4:30)
Which character from Center Stage would I love to hang out with? (7:35)
My ideal dessert bracket (10:55)
My best recent impulse buy (15:05)
How to find a running coach (19:45)
How to deal with unkind people (23:20)
What to know about running the Manchester City Marathon (31:30)

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434. Nell Rojas, 2021 Boston Marathon Recap Oct 21, 2021

“I hope that brands see the value in me and my future in running and what I have to offer to the running community.”

On October 11, Nell Rojas ran her fourth marathon. In her Boston Marathon debut, Nell finished sixth overall, ran a personal best time of 2:27, and was the first American woman across the finish line. We heard from Nell before the race, and now she's back to recap every detail of race day. On this episode, Nell shares how she was feeling heading into the race, what race morning was like, and what it was like doing breathing exercises in a church nursery. She reflects on why her goal was to be first American that day, what that goal means to her now, and whether or not it matters. Plus, she shares fun stories from her post-race interviews and talks about what's next.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Was Boston the best day of Nell’s life? (2:45)
How Nell spent the day before the race (7:15)
On lining up behind Des Linden at the start, and what the pre-race technical meetings are like (10:45)
Choosing a race day outfit (15:00)
How Nell was feeling on race morning (18:20)
Nell’s goals and her plan for race day (23:45)
Why Nell’s goal was to be top American at Boston (32:20)
How Nell’s race played out (38:25)
The finish line experience (48:00)
On being unsponsored, and what happens next (50:50)
Nell answers a listener question about protein (54:20)
What’s next? (57:00)

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433. Jason Suarez, Professional Sports Photographer @notafraid2fail Oct 19, 2021

“I just turned around and it was like, oh man, I’m an Olympic photographer. With that one click.”

Jason Suarez — also known as @notafraid2fail — is one of the best, most sought-after photographers in running today. He has shot nearly every track and field event, every major marathon, and every athlete you know, love, and follow in this sport. And we recorded this conversation just a few days after Jason returned from a true dream-come-true experience: being an official photographer at the Olympic Games. He shot the track and field events inside Olympic Stadium, and dabbled in shooting new events, including gymnastics and swimming. But the Queens-born-and-raised former collegiate sprinter turned marathoner never planned for or expected this life. On this episode, Jason talks about his career trajectory — in addition to being a professional photographer, he also works for Apple — and about the importance of networking, relationships, and being a good person along the way. He talks about breaking into the industry, and shares his career highlights, including spending a week in Kenya with Eliud Kipchoge. Plus, he talks about feeling burned out and about questioning his next moves as a photographer.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What it means to be “notafraid2fail” (3:45)
The significance of Jason’s laptop background (6:30)
How and why Jason got to go to the Tokyo Olympics (7:45)
On learning the ropes in Tokyo (12:25)
The business side of being a freelance sports photographer (22:00)
When Jason realized his dream was coming true (28:00)
Jason’s running story (30:45)
How Jason got his start in photography (37:30)
Jason’s highlight reel (45:30)
All about the Pansa Boyz! (51:00)
What’s next for Jason, on the run and behind the lens (59:35)
Why Jason loves shooting marathons (1:08:15)
Jason’s advice for taking better photos (1:15:00)

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432. Shayla Martin, Breast Cancer Survivor Oct 14, 2021

“In my gut, I knew my life was about to change.”

Shayla Martin has a lot to celebrate right now. First, her 43rd birthday. Then, a spontaneous experience dancing onstage at a concert with Diplo. And, perhaps most importantly, her three-year anniversary of being cancer-free. On this episode, meet two-time marathoner Shayla Martin, a woman who is always joyful, smiling, and seeking a good time. But in 2017, at just 39 years old, Shayla's world was rocked when she found a lump in her breast that turned out to be breast cancer. Here, Shayla shares her cancer story, which included a mastectomy, chemo, radiation, and three breast reconstruction surgeries. She talks about how cancer changed her relationship with her body, and why, in her forties, she decided to pursue therapy for the very first time. She talks about living her best life at Burning Man, about a low point in her life last summer, when she was arrested on her way home after a run, and about why she thinks "life should be lived in a tutu." Shayla lives in New York City where she works in hospitality sales for GrubHub.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

On dancing onstage with Diplo and Jess King, and going to Burning Man (3:00)
What Shayla’s life was like before her cancer diagnosis (15:30)
What it was like being diagnosed with breast cancer (19:50)
How Shayla responded to chemo and radiation (35:00)
How Shayla’s relationship with her body has changed since getting cancer, and what it was like being told she was cancer-free (44:55)
Therapy talk (54:00)
Shayla’s experience getting arrested last summer while walking home after a run (1:04:00)

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431. LIVE at the Boston Marathon with Nell Rojas Oct 12, 2021

"My goal is to be the top American. That's my goal. And I think I can do it... To be the top American would probably be the best day of my life."

Racing is back! Major marathons are back! And, after 19 long and lonely months, live shows are back! It was such a privilege to get to host a live recording of the Ali on the Run Show at the Tracksmith Trackhouse during Boston Marathon weekend, with very special guest Nell Rojas. During the show (recorded on Saturday, October 9), Nell said that finishing as the top American during the Boston Marathon would make Marathon Monday the best day of her life — and she went on to do just that. In her fourth marathon and her Boston Marathon debut, Nell — who is currently, somehow, unsponsored — finished sixth, was the first woman from the U.S. to cross the line, and earned a personal best time of 2:27. This show was so much fun. I promise you will laugh at least once, and, special treat, you'll get to hear from Nell's dad, running legend Ric Rojas. Thank you to Tracksmith for hosting us, thank you to Nell for being a legend, and thank you to everyone who was part of the fun!

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430. Ask Ali! Oct 08, 2021

"That goal wasn’t for anyone else. It wasn’t to prove anything to anyone else. It was just something new that I was going to accomplish on my own."

Welcome to Ask Ali, a twice-a-month series where I answer all of your questions. This time around, we’ve got listener questions about my time as a single 20-something in New York City, redefining the word "smart," dealing with expectations and disappointment when a race isn't a personal best, muffins and more. Thanks to everyone who called in for this one. Enjoy!

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Looking back on being single in NYC (4:10)
On re-defining the word “smart,” and ways I think I’m smart (11:55)
My favorite marathons (22:45)
“What’s the point if I’m not going to PR?” (29:40)
How do you deal with feeling like you’re not the “perfect” runner? (36:50)
Which Superhero Muffins do you make for breakfast every day? (44:50)
Dealing with identity struggles (46:20)

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429. Henna Rustami, Fifth Avenue Mile NYRR Women’s Road Mile Champion Oct 07, 2021

“I ended up on a dude ranch in Arizona. I just wanted to go far away from New York and from home and just do something completely different. I felt like I’d kind of lost a sense of myself in that pursuit of running really fast and high achievement, so I wanted to recalibrate and go somewhere where no one knew me and running didn’t matter.”

Henna Rustami is a rising star in the running world. Though she describes herself as "the worst runner" on her high school and college teams, she has gone on to thrive on the run, becoming an Ivy League champion (running for Columbia University) and thriving on the New York City competitive running scene. Most recently, Henna won the NYRR Women's Road Mile division at the Fifth Avenue Mile, breaking the tape in four minutes and 45 seconds. And she's thriving off the run, too: Henna graduated from law school earlier this year! On this episode, Henna reflects on her running journey and her childhood, growing up in Long Island as the daughter of refugees from Afghanistan. She talks about her parents' journeys fleeing Afghanistan in the 1980s, and about what it was like growing up in a Muslim family in the wake of 9/11. She talks about finding confidence on the run, about escaping to a dude ranch for six months, and about what her training looks like today as a member of Brooklyn Track Club.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Henna recaps her NYRR Women’s Road Mile win at the Fifth Avenue Mile (4:55)
On confidence in running (8:45)
What Henna’s training looks like (10:45)
All about Henna’s childhood (14:50)
How Henna’s parents responded to her love for running, and what it was like growing up in an Afghan family on Long Island after 9/11 (22:15)
On graduating from law school and starting a career in the pursuit of fighting injustices (35:45)
What it was like going from being “the worst runner on the team” to an Ivy League champion (41:35)
On navigating what role running would play after college (44:50)
What’s next for Henna? (53:35)

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428. Erika Kemp, Professional Runner for the B.A.A. & adidas Oct 05, 2021

“That was the moment where I remember being like, ‘Oh, I’m not done yet.’ Like I know there’s more. It finally hit me, ‘If you just continue on, you have no idea where your ceiling is.’ So at that point, I just wanted to see how far I could go.”

This summer, Erika Kemp — like so many professional runners — had one really, really, really big goal race. Since going pro in 2018 and signing with the Boston Athletic Association and adidas, Erika knew she would want to compete at the U.S. Olympic Track & Field Trials in hopes of making her Team USA debut. When it came time to race the 5K at Hayward Field, Erika made it through the first round and advanced to the finals. But ultimately, she finished last that day, and didn't make the 2020 Olympic team. But! Erika has gone on to have an incredible season since then. On this episode, Erika talks about her physical and emotional recovery from the Trials, and explains her motivation for continuing to race throughout the year. Since the Trials, Erika won the USATF New England 5-mile championships, won the U.S. 20K championships at the New Haven Road Race (it was her debut at that distance, and it earned her a second national title), won the Cow Harbor 10K (and ran a personal best), and finished fourth at the Cooper River Bridge Run 10K the following weekend. This girl is on fire, and on this episode, she talks about how she fell in love with running — and how she stays in love with it.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Erika plans her season (4:00)
All about this year’s Olympic Track & Field Trials (10:30)
On returning to running after taking a break (14:55)
Why the Trials felt so “big” (16:45)
Erika’s outlook on racing this season (20:30)
Try it: Erika’s favorite workout (24:30)
All about Erika’s childhood and how she got into running (27:45)
On falling in love with running (34:50)
On going pro (39:00)
Where to find Erika during Boston Marathon weekend (46:30)
Erika’s biggest hopes, dreams, and goals (49:50)

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427. Jess King, Peloton Instructor Sep 30, 2021

“I had remembered this promise I had made to myself, which was a ‘year of yes.’ That if there was an opportunity to meet someone, to make a dollar, or whatever it was, if there was an opportunity in front of me, no matter how scary it felt or how much resistance I felt, I was at least going to give myself the chance to explore it. So I said yes.”

Every day, Jess King is in the homes of millions of people around the world. As one of Peloton's first instructors (she joined the team in 2014), she teaches cycling, Tread, Pilates, and dance cardio classes, and is known and loved for her bubbly, glittery, high-energy personality. Jess is a born performer. She grew up dancing competitively in Myrtle Beach, SC, and competed on Season 4 of So You Think You Can Dance. On this episode, she reflects on that experience — on making it to the Top 10 before having to withdraw from the competition on account of a few broken ribs. She talks about the disappointment, about reading the comments on social media, and about stepping away from dance for a while afterward. Then, she talks about what it's been like for her to watch fellow Peloton instructor Cody Rigsby make his dance reality competition debut on Dancing with the Stars, and talks about the text she sent him before he first stepped onstage "from someone who's been there." Jess talks about her desire to use her platform for good, and about the power of representation as a Latina woman and member of the LGBTQ+ community. She shares her love story with fiancée Sophia Urista (power couple alert!), opens up about her own mental health and self-help journeys, and talks about how she got the job at Peloton — and how the pursuit of fame quickly transitioned into a passion for building community.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

On bad days, setting intentions, and Halloween (6:00)
What it was like watching colleague Cody Rigsby on Dancing with the Stars (11:30)
Jess reflects on her time on So You Think You Can Dance Season 4 (14:20)
On dancing again after SYTYCD (24:45)
How fitness — and Peloton — entered the picture (31:00)
On the pursuit of fame, and the a-ha moment when everything felt validating (43:30)
The pressure of having a platform (51:15)
How Jess has evolved as an instructor since her earliest days at Peloton (55:35)
On developing thicker skin and being human (58:40)
Jess shares her love story with fiancée Sophia Urista (1:02:00)
Jess’s message to anyone going through some stuff right now (1:08:00)

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426. Sam Grotewold, Director of Professional Athletes at New York Road Runners Sep 23, 2021

“Everybody who has ever run a marathon in the history of ever has run a first marathon. And I guarantee you that some of the concerns and doubts and fears that you or I had in our first marathon have crept into the minds of someone like Shalane Flanagan or Meb Keflezighi in the weeks and days and hours before they ran their first marathon.”

Every year at races like the New York City Marathon and the Fifth Avenue Mile, dozens of professional runners assemble for their shot at glory. And in New York City, Sam Grotewold is the guy who brings them all together. As the director of professional athletes for New York Road Runners, it’s Sam’s job to recruit the professional fields at major events like the TCS New York City Marathon, the New York City Half, the Mini 10K, and the New Balance Fifth Avenue Mile. And on this episode, the self-proclaimed “running and track nerd” explains how he makes that happen. With more than 20 years of experience, Sam knows the wooing process well. Here, he shares his goals for the recruitment process, how he measures success in his role, and how this year’s New York City Marathon field (which features professional runners from 25 countries and territories) came together. Plus, he shares some of his best stories from his time with the pros, and tells which athlete he reached out to first as he was assembling this year’s NYCM field.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

All about Sam’s role in the New Balance Fifth Avenue Mile (5:30)
On getting the athletes to the start line (19:00)
How Sam got his job (21:30)
How Sam assembles the fields of professional athletes (29:40)
The narrative for this year’s TCS New York City Marathon (33:45)
Sam’s process for recruiting athletes (39:00)
Sam’s favorite thing about New York City Marathon week (46:15)
What goes into the contracts for professional athletes (48:50)
On schmoozing, socializing, and spreadsheets (51:20)
What New York City Marathon day is like for Sam — plus some of his best race day stories! (56:00)
Reflecting on the past year and a half at New York Road Runners (1:08:00)

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425. Ask Ali! Sep 17, 2021

"So many of us, we put so much pressure and expectation on our running goals because we work so hard, we make so many sacrifices and choices, and we just want race day to be everything that we dreamed of and everything we worked toward. And sometimes life happens, and it’s just… We have to adjust our goals accordingly."

Welcome to Ask Ali, a twice-a-month series where I answer all of your questions. This time around, we’ve got listener questions about what to expect at the New York City Marathon start line, hitting a wall during marathon training, race announcing vs. running, The Baby-Sitters Club, and more. Thanks to everyone who called in for this one. Enjoy!

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Insider tips for running the New York City Marathon (4:15)
What is the ultimate food crime? (13:15)
Advice for when you hit a wall during marathon training (16:00)
Why I changed the warm-up questions on the Ali on the Run Show (27:40)
On race announcing vs. running (33:00)
How to get notified about live events on the Ali on the Run Show (38:45)
My favorite character from The Baby-Sitters Club (45:00)

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424. Dave McGillivray, Boston Marathon Race Director Sep 16, 2021

“We all have something in common. You know what it is? We woke up this morning. Not everyone else did. There’s the best reason to go for a run.”

Dave McGillivray is many things — philanthropist, motivational speaker, 166-time marathoner with a 2:29 PR, Ironman triathlete with a 10:36 PR, father, World Marathon Challenge finisher — but he is best known for his role as race director of the Boston Marathon. On this episode, Dave talks about what runners can expect at this year's race. As the "boots on the ground guy," Dave oversees everything that happens on race day, from the start line to the finish and every mile in between. But Dave's day doesn't end when the final finisher crosses the line: Every year after the official race concludes, Dave returns to the start line in Hopkinton and runs his Boston Marathon. Another famous Dave tradition: Every year on his birthday, Dave runs his age in miles. He's been doing this since he was 12 and hasn't missed a year yet. (This year, Dave is 67.) Dave cares deeply about this sport and the running community, and nearly everything he does, both personally and as the owner and founder of DMSE Sports, is for a greater purpose. This year, Dave served as a logistician for Covid-19 mass vaccination sites including Gillette Stadium and Fenway Park, and helped vaccinate 1.3 million people.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Dave’s advice for World Marathon Challenge hopefuls (11:30)
Dave’s morning routine (14:30)
What’s top of mind for Dave, one month out from Marathon Monday? (19:20)
What goes into choosing a race event date? (37:20)
What race day is like for Dave — and all about his post-race tradition (47:45)
Dave’s favorite part of race day, and his favorite Boston Marathon memories (55:15)
What unites runners? (1:03:40)
The role running plays in Dave’s life right now (1:09:50)

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Deirdre Keane on Episode 422 of the Ali on the Run Show

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423. Courtney Dauwalter, 2021 UTMB Winner Sep 13, 2021

“I was doing everything I could, every section that I was coming upon. So in my head it was like, if I’m doing as best I can and I get caught and passed, then that’s just how it played out, and I’m gonna cheer that person on who’s passing me because that’s cool, and that’s how we get better together.”

Last month, Courtney Dauwalter defended — and reclaimed — her title at the Ultra-Trail du Mont-Blanc 106.5-mile race, and smashed records along the way. She broke the all-time women's course record by seven minutes, finishing in 22 hours 30 minutes and 54 seconds. She beat her 2019 winning time by two hours and two minutes, finished sixth overall (the highest finish ever by a woman), and won the women's division by more than an hour and a half. On this episode, Courtney talks about this year's UTMB experience, describing the sights (and hallucinations), sounds, highs (more than 32,800 feet of climbing!), lows, and views (of France, Italy, and Switzerland) along the way. Plus, in true Courtney fashion, we laugh a lot and talk about candy. If you're looking for a conversation that's equal parts fun, silly, inspiring, and encouraging, this is it.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

A day in the life of Courtney Dauwalter (2:00)
What do the numbers and stats mean to Courtney? (5:00)
Courtney reflects on having to drop out of the Hardrock 100 earlier this summer (6:45)
Courtney’s goals for UTMB, and how she would grade her performance (12:30)
How Courtney was feeling on race day (16:30)
Courtney breaks down the race (19:45)
Hallucination stories! And when things started to hurt (32:20)
What Courtney listens to on the run (34:40)
Marriage talk (41:00)
How Courtney celebrated her UTMB win (44:00)
What’s next? (50:25)
Candy talk! (53:00)

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422. Deirdre Keane, As Seen on Humans of New York Sep 09, 2021

“I took down all facades. I just could not hold up this fake exterior of everything was OK when I felt like I could barely get out of bed every day. I would just get up, go to work, and the only thing else that was consistent was running. I would run every day, despite how bad I felt. And it was such a sense of refuge at points. I would feel like I would be OK. And that’s when I would start planning for the future. I was like, ‘Deirdre, this is transient. This is going to get better. You are going to get better. Dad’s looking out for you. Don’t give up. Just keep going. Get through today. Tomorrow will hopefully be a better day. And if it’s not, that’s OK, too. We will get there.’ Running reinforced that resiliency that I truly thought I’d lost.”

Deirdre Keane normally flies pretty under the radar. But last month, the 33-time marathoner (whose personal best time is 3:14) became a face seen by millions when she was featured on Humans of New York. Suddenly, 11.3 million people on Instagram and 17 million more on Facebook knew Deirdre's story. In the post, Deirdre shared the story of her dad, who was an avid (and fast!) marathoner. She talked about how he ran his final New York City Marathon the day before what turned out to be his final surgery to help treat his melanoma. Deirdre talked about how her dad so badly wanted his kids to be runners when they were growing up, but they weren't interested — until after his passing, when Deidre decided to run her first marathon on what would've been her dad's birthday. Then, Deirdre talked about going through a tough time last year, and how running became her constant — it was what she did to remember who she was, and who she is. On this episode, Deirdre talks about the rest of her story. She talks about waking up at 4 AM to run 10 miles to work from her home in the Bronx to the Upper East Side, where she's a nurse practitioner in the pediatric ICU at Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center. She talks about working through the pandemic in New York City, about leaning into running after her brother was in a near-fatal car accident, and about her big plans for her next year on the run (starting with three fall marathons: Boston, New York City, and Dallas). When she's not working or on the run, Deirdre is pursuing her MBA at New York University, where she is also the editor-in-chief of the school's graduate newspaper.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

On running through wet cement! (6:10)
All about being featured on Humans of New York (11:00)
Deirdre talks about her dad and his love for running (24:00)
How Deirdre got into marathoning (28:35)
How Deirdre has added more meaning to her running over the past year and a half (39:25)
On being a “helper” (48:00)
The role running has served for Deirdre over the past year (50:10)
How training (for the Boston, New York City, and Dallas Marathons) is going, and what’s next for Deirdre (1:00:00)

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Achilles International

Manchester City Marathon

2020 Manchester City Half Marathon Recap

From 4:13 To 3:51: My Manchester City Marathon Recap

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421. A Pep Talk from Jesse Itzler Sep 07, 2021

“You hear the thing, ‘Are you glass half full or glass half empty?’ I’m so damn glad I have a glass!”

Jesse Itzler is all about "building your life resume." He's a wildly successful entrepreneur, rapper, owner of the Atlanta Hawks, 60-time marathoner, ultramarathoner, best-selling author, creator of events including the 29029 Everesting challenge and Hell on the Hill, dad of four, and husband to Spanx founder Sara Blakely (talk about a power couple). I've been a fan of Jesse's since I read his book Living with a SEAL (and, later, Living with the Monks), and was psyched when I met him at the finish line of this year's Clearwater Marathon — which he has since called his most memorable marathon. (Not because he met me at the finish, but because his four kids ran the last six miles with him, and they all crossed the finish line together.) In this rapid-fire conversation, Jesse and I cover a range of topics, including how he lives in constant pursuit of fun, and the importance of making time for ourselves. Plus, fruit, muffins, and so much more.

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Fit for Life by Harvey Diamond

Brent and Kyle Pease on Episode 389 of the Ali on the Run Show

Ashley Paulson on Episode 409 of the Ali on the Run Show

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420. LIVE with Molly Seidel, Olympic Bronze Medalist Sep 04, 2021

"Once I got on the start line, that was the most at peace I'd felt in a long time."

"Drink a beer for me," Molly Seidel told her family over FaceTime from Sapporo, just moments after becoming an Olympic Bronze Medalist in the marathon. Even better: drinking a beer with Molly, which is exactly what a few hundred of us did on Tuesday, August 31, during this virtual live show with the newly minted Olympic medalist. During this fun celebratory conversation, Molly talks about throwing out the first pitch at the Red Sox game a few weeks ago (let's just call it a strike, OK?), that viral airplane Tweet ("It was 100 percent mansplaining," she says), where she plans to keep her bronze medal ("somewhere weird"), and the fellow Olympic marathoner she's "shooting her shot" with. Plus, every detail on the Olympic marathon, including Molly's fun travel details, tales from the Athlete Village, and some jaw-dropping stories of mid-race trash talking and why Molly was veering away from the pack (it wasn't in search of shade).

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Molly Seidel on Episode 341 of the Ali on the Run Show

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419. Ask Ali! Sep 03, 2021

“To me, it’s not heroic to have a miserable experience. It’s not heroic to further injure myself. It’s not heroic to set myself back, for what? A medal, an Instagram post, a couple hundred likes? Not worth it. I’d rather be the people’s champion by saying, ‘Hey, I made the tough call.’”

Welcome to Ask Ali, a twice-a-month series where I answer all of your questions. This time around, we’ve got listener questions about Schitt's Creek friendships, adjusting to hilly running routes, DNFs, and so much more. Thanks to everyone who called in for this one. Enjoy!

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You asked:

Is there a list of the best of the Ali on the Run Show? (5:05)
Have you ever not finished a race that you trained for and started? (6:50)
What is your honest opinion on LetsRun.com? (15:30)
Do you have any funny injury stories? (22:05)
If you lived in Schitt’s Creek, who would you be friends with? (28:30)
How have you adapted to running on hillier terrain? (32:10)
What tips do you have for preparing for a busy time? (37:00)

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"Start Here"

Dr. Nicole Detling on Episode 278 of the Ali on the Run Show

Dr. Nicole Detling on Episode 128 of the Ali on the Run Show

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418. Abbey Cooper, Professional Runner for New Balance Sep 02, 2021

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“It’s not who I am. It’s something that happened to me.”

Abbey Cooper was the talk of this year's U.S. Olympic Track & Field Trials. She may not have ultimately made Team USA, but Abbey, who is sponsored by New Balance, threw down not one but two of the most inspiring, gutsy performances at Hayward Field. First, in the 5K prelims, when she broke away from the field and ran the majority of the race solo in pursuit of the Olympic Standard (and she hit it, with a few seconds to spare!). Then, in the 5K final, when she was with the lead pack until the final moments, when she ultimately finished fourth, just one and a half seconds off the podium. Abbey is perhaps best known for her performance at the 2016 Rio Olympics, when she fell during the 5K prelims. But people don't talk about the fall — they talk about how Abbey got right back up and helped her fellow competitor to the finish. On this episode, Abbey talks about how Rio has — and hasn't — defined her, and she reflects on the highs (like her recent 5K personal best at the Prefontaine Classic!) and those just-missed moments on the track.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Abbey reflects on her 5K PR at the Pre Classic, and why she feels like she’s been “running on house money” this year (4:50)
On working with a sports psychologist: Abbey’s husband (9:40)
What it means to be “relationally healthy” (11:00)
What it was like watching friend Molly Seidel win bronze at the Olympic marathon (18:30)
On entering the off season (22:00)
Reflecting on this year’s Olympic Track & Field Trials (25:45)
On all those just-missed moments along the way (40:35)
On being defined — or not — by Rio 2016 (44:20)
More thoughts on just-missed moments and the lessons that come with them (55:00)
On “trusting the process with both commitment and surrender” (1:00:45)
What does “Running with Heart” mean right now? (1:05:15)

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417. What's New With You with Cory McGee Aug 30, 2021

“I’ve always been my own biggest believer.”

In 2004, Cory McGee's dad was working security for the FBI at the Olympic Games in Athens — which meant Cory got to tag along! It was then that she vowed to one day return to the Olympics — as a competitor. And just a few weeks ago, Cory's dream came true when she got to represent Team USA in Tokyo. (She became an Olympic finalist, no less!) On this episode, Cory, who is sponsored by New Balance, talks about traveling to Japan to compete in the 1500m. She talks about that brutal fall in the semifinals, and about the physical and emotional toll that took on her. She shares how coach Joe Bosshard has helped her over the years, and has worked with her to turn her weaknesses into strengths. Plus, Cory talks about ending her season early on account of some bone bruising from that fall, and talks about hosting a Covid-19 vaccine event back home in Mississippi.

THE LAST TIME CORY WAS ON THE SHOW: Episode 284

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Cory’s decision to end her season earlier than expected (4:45)
On becoming an Olympian (9:00)
On performance ruts and getting through them (12:50)
Cory looks back on competing at the U.S. Track & Field Trials and earning her spot on Team USA (17:50)
What training was like between the Trials and the Olympics (20:00)
What makes Cory McGee tick? (22:45)
All about the travel journey to Tokyo (27:45)
What it was like walking into Olympic Stadium for the first time (38:50)
That semi-final fall (43:00)
What running the 1500m final was like (51:40)
On phone calls back home (54:50)
What the Closing Ceremonies and flight home were like (57:10)
On hosting a Covid-19 vaccine drive in Mississippi (1:03:00)
What’s next for Cory (1:07:15)

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416. Courtney Frerichs, Olympic Silver Medalist Aug 26, 2021

“He said, ‘I want you to feel like you can take over this race. And take over early.’ And I was like, ‘Wait, what?!’”

This girl is on fire! Courtney Frerichs is a two-time Olympian for Team USA who just returned from Tokyo as a silver medalist! Courtney, who trains with Nike's Bowerman Track Club, competed in the 3000m steeplechase at the Tokyo Olympics, and made the final an exciting one when she made her move and took the lead with four laps to go. (A move she attributes both to coach Jerry Schumacher's plan and to her own quiet confidence and instinct taking over mid-race.) Courtney went into the Games as the American record holder in the 3000m steeplechase and as a world silver medalist, and just a week after returning from Tokyo, she competed at the Prefontaine Classic where she became the first American woman to go sub-9:00 in the steeplechase. On this episode, Courtney talks about the hard work she's done on her mental game leading up to this year's Olympic Track & Field Trials and, ultimately, the Olympics. She talks about what it was like being in Tokyo, gives a behind-the-scenes look at life in the athlete village (where she roomed with Team USA's 1500m runner Elle Purrier St. Pierre), and shares the mantras that helped her through it all.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Where is Courtney keeping her silver medal? (3:30)
Courtney’s plans and goals for the Pre Classic, and whether she feels pressure going into the race (5:40)
All about Courtney’s decision to prioritize her mental health recently (9:30)
Courtney’s first impressions when she got to Tokyo (23:15)
How Courtney was feeling before the racing started at the Games (32:00)
What running was like in Tokyo (40:45)
Courtney recaps the Prelims (43:30)
Courtney shares her pre-race routine (47:00)
All about Courtney’s race plan and that “big move” (53:50)
What it felt like to cross the line and earn an Olympic silver medal (1:02:50)
How Courtney is feeling now (1:08:30)
On going back to school for nutrition (1:10:15)

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415. Aisha Praught Leer, Two-Time Olympian for Team Jamaica Aug 25, 2021

“I couldn’t hear. I couldn’t think. He was very matter of fact. He said, ‘You have a complete medial meniscus root tear. That means your meniscus tore off the bone. You need surgery — not today, but in the next couple days. Tokyo isn’t an option.’”

Professional Puma-sponsored runner Aisha Praught Leer was living every athlete's dream this summer. She'd secured her spot on Jamaica's Olympic team, and was training in St. Moritz with her Team Boss teammates Emma Coburn and Cory McGee. She was feeling fit. Fast. Ready to race the 1500 in Tokyo. But then, just a few days before boarding the plane to Japan, Aisha was warming up before a track workout when she felt a pop in her knee. That pop turned out to be a torn meniscus. ("Like meniscus fully dangling off the bone," Aisha explains.) In this conversation, Aisha reflects on that day at the track in Chiavenna, and talks about what it's like when all of your dreams are ripped away from you in an instant. She talks about her decision to race anyway, and talks about what she says was the hardest part of this injury. (It wasn't the race. It was calling her loved ones.) Plus, Aisha — who is now two weeks post-op — discusses her surgery, her recovery, and her big dreams for what's next.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Aisha made Jamaica’s Olympic team this year (11:40)
How Aisha’s training was going leading up to the Olympics (19:30)
The day Aisha heard that “pop” at practice, and the aftermath (22:30)
The journey to Tokyo, and what Aisha says was the hardest part of the injury (49:00)
What it was like racing the 1500 on a torn meniscus in Tokyo (1:05:20)
Aisha’s goals for the future (1:17:45)
What Aisha’s watching right now (1:19:00)

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Aisha Praught & Will Leer on Episode 204 of the Ali on the Run Show

Aisha Praught Leer on Episode 197 of the Ali on the Run Show

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414. What's New With You with Keira D'Amato Aug 23, 2021

“I feel like nothing and everything changed.”

Keira D'Amato is many things: a full-time realtor, a mom of two, a Nike-sponsored professional runner, and — her newest title — a world record holder. Last year, Keira had arguably the best running year of her life. She ran a personal best at the U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials (2:34), ran a 5K on the track in 15:04 (beating her lifetime best by a full minute), won the Michigan Pro Half Marathon (and ran a 64-second personal best), ran a 2:22 at the Marathon Project (a 12-minute PR), and broke the 10-mile women's only American record at a race she created called the Up Dawg 10-Miler. Turns out, that race wasn't just an American record — it was also good enough for a just-ratified world record! At the peak of it all, Keira signed with a sponsor (Nike) for the first time at age 36. Unfortunately, since then, Keira has dealt with injury stuff and health stuff, and had to scratch from the U.S. Olympic Track & Field Trials, where she'd hoped to run the 10K. Still, her perspective is as inspiring ever, and she's one of the funnest, funniest women in running. Always a good time with Keira on the Ali on the Run Show!

THE LAST TIME KEIRA WAS ON THE SHOW: Episode 305

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What’s making Keira happy right now? (6:00)
Keira’s advice for raising confident kids (10:00)
All about D’Amato family food challenges (13:50)
Reflecting on running the Up Dawg 10-Miler and setting both an American Record and a World Record (20:00)
On becoming a sponsored runner and signing with Nike (26:20)
How a kind compliment from Molly Seidel changed so much for Keira (35:00)
On the decision to scratch from the U.S. Olympic Track & Field Trials (40:00)
All about Keira’s recent 5K vs. her husband — where he got a big advantage! — and their Vegas wedding (49:50)
Keira’s biggest hopes, dreams, and goals on the run and beyond (1:01:00)

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413. Ask Ali! Aug 20, 2021

“It just feels like too much.”

Welcome to Ask Ali, a twice-a-month series where I answer all of your questions. This time around, we’ve got listener questions about preparing for parenthood, podcast planning, first marathons, and so much more. Thanks to everyone who called in for this one. Enjoy!

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You asked:

What can I do to prepare for pregnancy and motherhood? (6:00)
The Ali on the Run Show recording and releasing timeline (12:00)
All about the Ali on the Run Show theme music (18:40)
My favorite places in New England (24:30)
The best half marathons on the east coast (31:45)
Advice for a first-time marathoner (33:50)

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New England Half Marathon Recap

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412. Jay Holder, Olympic Stadium Deputy Venue Media Manager Aug 19, 2021

“I had never done this before. I mean, I’ve done press conferences before, but at this level, this was a whole other ballgame… I mean, there were several moments where I was like, ‘This is the Olympics, so I better do this right, and I better not screw this up, and I better look like I know what I’m talking about even if I don’t. Because this is the Olympics!’”

Jay Holder knows his way around a press conference. As the director of marketing and communications for the Atlanta Track Club (remember this episode?) and as a former journalist himself (he has worked for ABC and with New York Road Runners at the New York City Marathon), Jay is the guy you want running your communications operations if you're putting on a race. And Jay just got to work his biggest gig yet: as the deputy venue media manager for Olympic Stadium at the Tokyo Olympic Games. Jay spent nine weeks in Tokyo running all communications-related matters inside the stadium, including managing the press tribunes and moderating and facilitating 53 press conferences in a 10-day span! This is a fascinating conversation about all that goes on behind the scenes at the Olympics.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What is a press tribune? (5:15)
Where Jay was during most of the races (7:40)
Jay explains his role for the press conferences (10:00)
What makes a great press conference question? (17:30)
Is Jay’s role stressful? (21:30)
How Jay measured success in his role at the Olympics (24:20)
How Jay got this job (26:40)
All about Jay’s quarantine once he got to Japan (40:00)
What it was like getting ready for the Opening Ceremonies (53:40)
What was the best part of it all? (59:30)
What’s next? (1:06:45)

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411. Kara Goucher, NBC Olympics Distance Analyst Aug 18, 2021

“When you compete at that level, there’s this high that comes with that. And I’ve missed that. And nothing has replaced it, really… And I got little bit of that feeling calling some of those races. I started to feel that little high again that I used to get when I raced.”

Last month, Kara Goucher joined the Ali on the Run Show to talk about her experience being part of the NBC broadcast team at the U.S. Olympic Track & Field Trials in Eugene, OR. Today, Kara's back — and this time, she's here to talk about what it was like commentating at the Tokyo Olympic Games! Kara just returned from Tokyo, where she served as an NBC Olympics Distance Analyst, calling the men's and women's races from the 1500m up to the marathon. She talks about how this experience compared to the Trials, and breaks down her studying process for each race, including what she did to make sure she pronounced every name of every athlete correctly. She shares the one thing she said on air that kept her up at night, reflects on getting choked up when Molly Seidel went for the bronze in the marathon, and explains why she wasn't allowed to cry on air. She talks about having to keep it together when one of her closest friends, Emma Coburn, was having a tough race in the steeplechase final, and talks about what it was like calling the men's marathon after having a complicated history with former teammate and Team USA competitor Galen Rupp. Finally, Kara, a two-time Olympian herself, answers listener questions about her time in Tokyo and what's next.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Kara explains what her role was at the Tokyo Olympics, and when she could be heard commentating (3:55)
How Kara was feeling confidence-wise heading into the Olympics broadcast (16:45)
How Kara studied and prepped for the races she’d be calling (22:00)
How Kara decompressed each night after working the races (27:45)
The races Kara was most excited to call, and how to find the line between excitement and emotion (30:00)
How Kara recalls her own experiences on the run during these races — without talking about herself too much (43:00)
How Kara and her team called the men’s and women’s marathons (44:30)
Does Kara feel respected in this role? (50:20)
What’s next for Kara on the commentating front and beyond? (51:30)
How being at the Games this year gave Kara a different perspective on her own time competing (56:15)
Kara answers listener questions from the Ali on the Run Show Facebook Group (1:03:30)

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Kara Goucher on Episode 43 of the Ali on the Run Show

Kara Goucher on Episode 86 of the Ali on the Run Show

Kara and Adam Goucher on Episode 208 of the Ali on the Run Show

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410. What's New With You with Yosef Herzog Aug 16, 2021

“The best part of going to the Olympics, for me, is being able to attend events when I’m not working, and then watching athletes win and medal an event, and then knowing they’re going to come on the show and I’m going to get to work with them up close and meet them. That’s the coolest thing about my job, and what makes it unique at the Olympics.”

Yosef Herzog is the stage manager for NBC's Today show, which means part of his job is getting to go to the Olympics! On this episode, Yosef talks about what it was like being at the 2020 Games in Tokyo. (These were Yosef's fifth Olympic Games with NBC!) He talks about being on set with the country's best athletes, including Simone Biles and Allyson Felix, and talks about what it was like being inside the Olympic Stadium and getting to attend track and field events. He also talks about the challenges and perks of working a morning broadcast at 8 PM local time. (The biggest upside, Yosef says: not having to set an alarm in the morning for a change!) Yosef recently underwent surgery for a torn meniscus, so he was wearing a leg brace in Tokyo — something he says nearly every athlete commented on! He offers an update on how his recovery is going, reflects on getting Covid last year, and shares his big marathon goals for when he's able to get back on the run.

THE LAST TIME YOSEF WAS ON THE SHOW: Episode 111

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How was Tokyo?! (3:10)
Yosef talks about what his role entails at the Olympics (5:15)
The things that are stressful about live television (14:15)
How many athletes at the Games asked Yosef about his leg brace? (18:15)
The athletes Yosef was most excited to have on set (21:00)
Which events Yosef got to watch in person (28:00)
All about Yosef’s meniscus surgery and recovery, and what his Covid experience was like (35:45)
Yosef’s thoughts on returning to “normal” on the Plaza (41:15)

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409. Ashley Paulson, iFit Coach, 91-Time Marathoner, & Professional Triathlete Aug 12, 2021

“Build those relationships. Have those adventures. Create those memories. That’s what’s worth living for, right there.”

Ashley Paulson never stops moving. She's a professional triathlete, ultramarathoner, 91-time marathoner, U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials qualifier and runner, iFit coach, and mom of four with hot pink hair. On this episode, Ashley talks about her recent win at the Deseret News Marathon, and about the sweet story that inspired her to run the race in honor of her father, wearing the T-shirt he got after running the race in the 80s. She reflects on the toughest times in her career, both at the races (in Kona, specifically) and off (when she was served a six-month suspension from triathlon after testing positive for a banned substance in a contaminated supplement). She shares the highs (traveling the country in an RV for two years with her husband and all four kids!), and the lows (her history with disordered eating). Ashley is a ball of energy — don't be surprised if you find yourself picking up the pace along the way.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Ashley celebrated her 40th birthday! (5:00)
All about Ashley’s hot pink hair (6:30)
Ashley reflects on her recent win at the Deseret News Marathon (10:15)
Ashley recalls her toughest moments on the run (17:45)
A day in the life of Ashley Paulson (22:30)
How Ashley and her husband prioritize their marriage (26:00)
On traveling around the country in an RV for two years (32:00)
Ashley reflects on serving a six-month suspension from triathlon (39:30)
The pressure of being a public figure (47:20)
Ashley’s relationship with food and her body, and her past with disordered eating (49:00)
On qualifying for the 2020 Olympic Marathon Trials, and what’s next for Ashley (56:45)

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408. Wyomia Tyus, 1964 & 1968 Olympic Gold Medalist Aug 11, 2021

“You always have to stay in the fight.”

It is an honor and a privilege to get to share this very special conversation with the legendary Wyomia Tyus today! Wyomia Tyus, now 75, is a two-time Olympian and four-time medalist (three gold, one silver). She competed in the 1964 Games in Tokyo at 19 years old (just like Athing Mu!), and again at the 1968 Games in Mexico City, where she became the first person to ever win back-to-back Olympic gold medals in the 100 meters. On this episode, Wyomia tells her life story, reflecting on growing up as the youngest of four kids in the Jim Crow South, and dealing with racism and segregation at a young age. She shares the story of her house burning down when she was 14 and, one year later, the death of her father. She talks about meeting coach Ed Temple, who took her under his wing and coached her to all four Olympic medals while also filling the void left by her father's passing. Plus, she talks about her role in the 1968 Olympic protests, and what it was like being in Mexico City during a time of so much political and social unrest. (If you love Wyomia's story — which I think you will! — you can hear more from her in her book, Tigerbelle: The Wyomia Tyus Story.)

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Wyomia talks about what it’s been like watching this year’s Olympics in Tokyo (4:50)
What Wyomia’s childhood was like, growing up in Georgia (8:30)
Reflecting on the year when Wyomia’s house burned down and, later, her dad died (14:30)
On meeting and being trained by the legendary coach Ed Temple at Tennessee State University (18:30)
How Wyomia developed confidence on the run (27:45)
Wyomia’s experience competing at the 1964 Olympics in Tokyo (36:00)
On returning home after the Games (55:15)
What it was like going to the Olympics in Mexico City to defend her title in the 100m (57:40)
How Wyomia felt when she heard a broadcaster say Carl Lewis was the first person to run back-to-back 100m races — when it was actually Wyomia who had done that (1:05:00)
Being a part of the protests at the 1968 Olympic Games (1:06:30)
Dancing the “Tighten Up!” (1:13:45)
Wyomia’s decision to step away from competing after the 1968 Games (1:16:00)
What it was like being at the opening of Wyomia Tyus Olympic Park (1:18:00)
Wyomia’s message to this year’s Olympic athletes (1:25:10)

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407. What's New With You with Neely Spence Gracey Aug 09, 2021

“Why can’t I do it all? Why can’t I be a mom, a really good mom, be the mom that I want to be, and also be an athlete, a really good athlete, the athlete I want to be?”

The last time professional runner and coach Neely Spence Gracey was on the Ali on the Run Show, she had just run her first postpartum marathon after having her son, Athens. She ran a 2:44 at the Houston Marathon and qualified for the U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials in the process. A year and a half later, a lot has happened in Neely's life — including another baby! On this episode, Neely offers updates about what it was like running the Marathon Trials last year and what life for her family was like during the pandemic. She talks about getting pregnant, in spite of having an IUD at the time, while she was training for The Marathon Project, and talks honestly about what that surprise was like. Neely talks about her pregnancy run streak, about giving birth to Rome on June 14, and about what postpartum life as a mom of two has been like so far.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

On the transition from one to two kids (5:15)
All about the names Athens and Rome (7:00)
On getting pregnant with an IUD (9:30)
What Neely’s pregnancy was like (16:55)
How Neely recovered from running the Houston Marathon and prepared to run the Olympic Marathon Trials in 2020 (20:30)
What the pandemic was like for Neely’s family (28:00)
What running was like during Neely’s pregnancy with Rome (33:50)
What labor and delivery was like with Rome (38:00)
On experiencing postpartum depression and anxiety (46:45)
On returning to running after having Rome (51:45)
What’s next for Neely? (58:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Rome's birth story

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406. Ask Ali! Aug 06, 2021

“If you’re thinking, ‘Ali, basketball isn’t really supposed to be a contact sport…’ It was the way I played it!”

Welcome to Ask Ali, a twice-a-month series where I answer all of your questions. This time around, we’ve got listener questions about dealing with self doubt, running friendships, the mental side of marathon training, and so much more. Thanks to everyone who called in for this one. Enjoy!

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You asked:

Why can’t professional marathoners tell you which fall races they’re running?! (2:20)
What is it about running that can really attract such powerful friendships and relationships? (6:00)
Advice for becoming an early morning runner (16:30)
Should I drop from the marathon to the half-marathon? (24:50)
Which ball sport would you play? (29:30)
How to train for the mental side of marathon training (40:00)

What I mention on this episode:

Diane Nukuri on Episode 403 of the Ali on the Run Show

Veronica Jackson and Alex Bernardi on Episode 211 of the Ali on the Run Show

Ladia Albertson-Junkans on Episode 404 of the Ali on the Run Show

Jenny Donnelly on Episode 193 of the Ali on the Run Show

"How to Wake Up for Morning Workouts"

Dr. Nicole Detling on Episode 128 of the Ali on the Run Show

Dr. Nicole Detling on Episode 278 of the Ali on the Run Show

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405. Robyn Stevens, U.S. Olympic Trials 20K Race Walk Champion Aug 05, 2021

“I said, ‘The best thing for me right now is to just choose life, and to step away.’”

Tomorrow, Robyn Stevens will make her Olympic debut, representing Team USA in the 20K race walk. In June, Robyn won her event at the Olympic Track & Field Trials, officially becoming the fastest female walker in the country. And on this episode, she talks about the long road to becoming an Olympian, which included a 17-year break and retirement from the sport to recover from a severe eating disorder. But now, "Walkin' Robyn" is healthy, cruising at a 7:40/mile pace, and becoming an Olympian at age 38. Plus, Robyn offers a bit of "Race Walk 101" (race walking: it's not just fast walking, it's definitely not slow running, and it comes with lots of rules and regulations!), and shares her excitement about getting to head to Tokyo to compete with her boyfriend, fellow race walk champion and Team USA member Nick Christie.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What Robyn’s training has looked like between the Trials and Tokyo, and how it feels to be representing Team USA (5:00)
What it took for Robyn and Nick to make Team USA (16:15)
Race Walk 101 (23:00)
How Robyn got into race walking (34:00)
“Imagine how much faster she would be if she were skinnier” (45:00)
Robyn’s decision to take her life back (1:07:45)
On returning to the sport and making Team USA (1:22:30)
Why Robyn owns 30+ wigs! (1:26:20)

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404. What's New With You with Ladia Albertson-Junkans Aug 02, 2021

“There just aren’t enough boys named after awesome women out there, so I just wanted to contribute to that!”

The last time Ladia Albertson-Junkans was on the Ali on the Run Show, she was in Atlanta, about to run the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials. Ladia had qualified for the Trials, and then went on to run the Western States 100-miler, and then ran the Fastest Known Time (FKT) on the Timberline Trail around Mount Hood. Then, soon after running the Olympic Marathon Trials, her next great endurance adventure began: motherhood. Today, Ladia is mom to seven-month-old Gabriel Birch. On this episode, Ladia talks about what new motherhood has been like, and shares the special story of how Baby Gabe got his name. (Without giving away too much: He's named after Ladia's late best friend, professional runner Gabe Grunewald.) Plus: big goals, rainbows, and Taylor Swift.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

All about Gabriel Birch’s name (5:00)
Reflecting on the post-Olympic Marathon Trials baby boom (7:45)
What it was like running the Olympic Marathon Trials (10:00)
What Gabe’s pregnancy was like (15:30)
Ladia shares Gabe’s birth story (21:00)
What new motherhood has been like for Ladia (25:30)
On striving for perfection in motherhood (33:45)
Ladia’s return to running since giving birth (43:45)
On the power of rainbows (47:30)
Taylor Swift talk! (52:30)

What we mention on this episode:

Gabe Grunewald on Episode 62 of the Ali on the Run Show

Mario Fraioli on Episode 266 of the Ali on the Run Show

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403. Diane Nukuri, Three-Time Olympian Jul 29, 2021

“I’m just training and racing and I’m living my best life… I’m living my American Dream.”

At 15, Diane Nukuri became an Olympian. At 16, she fled her home country of Burundi, seeking asylum in Canada. By 20, she was a student at the University of Iowa, fluent in English (her third language) and thriving on the run. Soon after, she competed at the 2012 Olympics, then again at the 2016 Games. Today, Diane is a dual citizen of the United States and Burundi, she's a professional runner sponsored by Asics, and she holds the Burundian records in the 1500, the 5,000, the 10,000, the half-marathon, and the marathon. She has represented Burundi in the Olympics three times at three different distances: the 5K in Sydney in 2000, the marathon in London in 2012, and the 10K in Rio in 2016. On this episode, Diane talks about growing up in Burundi as one of eight siblings, and about her decision to leave the country amidst its violent Civil War. She talks about living with family in Ontario, enrolling in a French-speaking high school, and then attending community college so she could learn English and continue running before attending the University of Iowa. Plus, periods, meditation, Diane's fall racing plans, and more!

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What it means to Diane to be living her best life right now (3:15)
How Diane’s running and racing have been going this year (8:15)
What Diane has learned from training alongside other fast women (17:30)
What it was like growing up in Burundi as one of eight siblings (23:20)
On becoming an Olympian at 15 years old (26:30)
What it was like seeking asylum from Burundi and moving to Canada (34:15)
On building confidence on the run and off at the University of Iowa (41:30)
On competing at the 2012 and 2016 Olympics (45:00)
The process of becoming a United States citizen (51:00)
How Diane gets in the right headspace when she doesn’t feel like running (55:00)

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402. What's New With You with Dinée Dorame Jul 26, 2021

“I was just so excited. I knew at that moment that it was going to change my life.”

Last year, Dinée Dorame, a citizen of the Navajo Nation, made her podcast debut as a guest on the Ali on the Run Show. Today: She's a podcast host of her own! At the beginning of 2021, Dinée launched her show, the Grounded podcast, which explores the intersection of running, community, land, and culture. On this episode, Dinée reflects on how the show has changed her life, and how she has found her voice and interview style along the way. She talks about being a recipient of the first-ever Tracksmith Fellowship program, and about being seen in the running community for all that she is, and not as simply "the Native runner." Plus, Dinée offers an update about how her own running is going, and the latest developments in her Accessory Navicular Syndrome. And she shares stories about interviewing some of her first guests on the Grounded podcast, including the legendary Billy Mills, Jordan Marie Daniel, and Meb Keflezighi (who surprisingly FaceTimed Dinée — who was in her pajamas — before their interview).

THE LAST TIME DINEE WAS ON THE SHOW: Dinée Dorame on Episode 239 of the Ali on the Run Show

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What made Dinée want to start a podcast (5:40)
How podcasting has changed Dinée’s life (12:55)
Dinée’s dream guests (17:15)
All about the time Meb FaceTimed Dinée — by surprise! (20:30)
How Dinée has found her interview style, and what her preparation process is like (26:00)
On working with mentor Mario Fraioli (31:45)
How Dinée hopes people feel when they listen to her podcast (49:20)
On being injured (51:00)
What has surprised Dinée most about launching a podcast (58:45)
On getting engaged and wedding planning (1:00:30)

What we mention on this episode:

Apply for the Tracksmith Fellowship program

Dinée on Episode 145 of The Morning Shakeout podcast

IVL Collective

@gaithappens on Instagram

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401. Ask Ali! Jul 23, 2021

“High hopes, low expectations.”

Welcome to Ask Ali, a twice-a-month series where I answer all of your questions. This time around, we’ve got listener questions about what I'm watching right now, finding your identity when you can't run, leaving New York City, working in the running industry, and so much more. Plus: another surprise appearance by Brian Cristiano! Thanks to everyone who called in for this one. Enjoy!

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You asked:

The top five things I’m watching right now (3:10)
All about my trip to Ocean City, NJ (10:00)
How to find your identity when you don’t have running anymore (18:55)
About the mental shift regarding leaving New York City and being happy — not sad — to come back and visit (27:25)
All about running with a jogging stroller (36:45)
Advice for working in the running industry (44:45)
Brian joins the show to share our love story! (53:15)

What I mention on this episode:

The Little Mermen

Thule Urban Glide II

Calum Neff on Episode 318 of the Ali on the Run Show

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400. Emily Infeld, Professional Runner Jul 22, 2021

“I’m a bit bummed with how it went, but that’s why I want to get back into more racing. I know I’m fitter than that showcased, and I want to just have fun with racing, because the Olympics are obviously the pinnacle of our sport, but I think there’s so much more aside from that. So I want to have fun with all that, and do what I love, and not feel like because I didn’t make this team it was a failure of a year or I’m a failure of an athlete.”

Emily Infeld arrived at the start line for this year's U.S. Olympic Track & Field Trials 10K last month with an impressive running resumé. She's a professional runner with the Bowerman Track Club, specializing in the 5K and 10K. She's a 2016 Olympian and a 2015 World Championships bronze medalist. But along the way, Emily has also been plagued with injuries — one major injury, she says, for every year of her professional career. In spite of injuries, surgeries, and setbacks, Emily has persevered and built immeasurable mental toughness along the way. So when she got to Hayward Field, she had one goal: Make another Olympic team. Unfortunately, like all but three of the athletes that day, Emily didn't finish in the top three, and missed out on this year's Team USA. On this episode, she recaps the long road to the Trials, breaks down that hot race in heartbreaking detail, and talks about what's next.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

On racing the 1500m for the first time in eight years (4:30)
Has running always been fun for Emily? (7:50)
On racing in all this heat lately (9:10)
Working on execution vs. focusing on time (13:00)
The intimidation factor, and relationships in running (15:55)
All about wedding planning! (22:00)
On working with Shalane Flanagan as both a teammate and coach (26:00)
Emily’s road to the 2021 Olympic Track & Field Trials (31:30)
The 10K race plan, and how the race played out (50:45)
How Emily recovered emotionally from the Trials, and what’s next (59:20)
What Emily’s been whipping up in the kitchen (1:03:15)

What we mention on this episode:

Shalane Flanagan on Episode 242 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emily Sisson on Episode 394 of the Ali on the Run Show

Karissa Schweizer & Elise Cranny on Episode 395 of the Ali on the Run Show

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399. What's New With You with Kate Grace Jul 19, 2021

“Nothing is guaranteed. And because of that, it enabled me to be so present and so thankful and aware of how special the whole thing was.”

Welcome to Season 3 of the What's New With You series, where we catch up with past guests on the Ali on the Run Show. And we're kicking off this season with professional middle-distance runner Kate Grace! The last time Kate was on the show, in December 2017, she had just left her sponsor, Oiselle, to sign with Nike and join the Bowerman Track Club. Now, three and a half years later, Kate has left BTC and is now a member of Team Boss, training under coach Joe Bosshard. (And she's moving! Kate is in the process of relocating from Portland, OR, to Boulder, CO, to train full-time with the team.) On this episode, Kate talks about her decision to change teams, and talks about how training is different with Coach Joe. Plus, she recaps her races at this year's Olympic Track & Field Trials, where she hoped to make her second Olympic team in the 800m, but ultimately fell short of that goal. But Kate isn't sitting around sulking: She is, in her words, "living her best life" right now, and is fresh off a European revenge tour, where she raced four times (in four different countries) in 10 days, earning two wins and three personal bests in the process. (Her new 800m PR is 1:57.2, which she ran in Monaco.)

THE LAST TIME KATE WAS ON THE SHOW: Kate Grace on Episode 53 of the Ali on the Run Show

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Kate’s moving! (3:30)
How Kate’s feeling after a whirlwind 10 days of racing (4:25)
Kate’s decision to leave Bowerman Track Club (8:00)
On the move to Team Boss (10:30)
How Kate’s training is different now that she’s coached by Joe Bosshard (25:30)
How Kate was feeling in the weeks leading up to the Olympic Trials (38:00)
Reflecting on this year’s 800m races at the Olympic Trials (41:20)
All about the Kate Grace Revenge Tour (47:00)
Kate’s “white shorts” story (1:04:05)

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398. Matt Wilpers, Peloton Instructor Jul 15, 2021

“I want you to understand what you’re doing and why you’re doing it. I want you to believe in the mission, and I want you to have fun. I want you to enjoy the process, and I want you to know that what you’re doing is a worthwhile endeavor.”

Like many of us, Matt Wilpers grew up wanting to be a marine biologist. ("I was really into whales," he recalls.) Ultimately, he pursued a career in finance, working as an analyst and auditor with KPMG and, later, Goldman Sachs. When he realized the NYC finance lifestyle wasn't for him, Matt decided to go to medical school, and, as a lifelong athlete and former collegiate runner, started teaching fitness classes on the side. Then, just as he was getting ready to pursue his medical career full-time, he got the call from Peloton. Plot twist! Today, Matt is one of Peloton's most popular cycling and treadmill instructors, and has his own coaching business. On this episode, Matt talks about why he's so passionate about coaching, and why getting to help people on their own fitness journeys is "the dream." He talks about coaching actress Lena Dunham, sharing stories about how while he was hired to help her, it was Lena who changed his life. Plus, he shares loads of qualified running advice about overtraining, race day anxiety, and how to "run arrogant" and more confident. Matt is a 2:54 marathoner, 1:17 half marathoner, and 10:38 Ironman who lives in New York City.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

On being a great coach (6:10)
What’s making Matt happy right now? (8:15)
Matt’s thoughts on returning to full studios (10:00)
On being nicknamed “The Baby-Faced Assassin,” and how Matt connects with the people taking his class virtually (11:30)
What Matt was like as a kid, and how he got into the finance industry (14:00)
What it was like coaching Lena Dunham (20:40)
How Matt got the Peloton job (23:30)
All about Matt’s coaching philosophy (29:00)
How Matt would describe his Peloton classes (36:00)
What a day in the life looks like for Matt (37:20)
Power Zone Endurance 101 (40:45)
The most common mistake Matt sees runners making, plus how to avoid overtraining (43:30)
How to “run arrogant,” and what that means (50:00)
Matt’s pre-race pep talk (53:50)
What’s next for Matt? (56:45)

What we mention on this episode:

Becs Gentry on Episode 379 of the Ali on the Run Show

Jess Sims on Episode 261 of the Ali on the Run Show

Tunde Oyeneyin on Episode 311 of the Ali on the Run Show

Olivia Amato on Episode 344 of the Ali on the Run Show

Matty Maggiacomo on Episode 350 of the Ali on the Run Show

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Jenny Donnelly on Episode 193 of the Ali on the Run Show

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397. On the Job with Jill Cardamone, Soup Engineer Jul 13, 2021

“Engineering is really about problem solving. Can you come up with a creative solution, and how do you work through it? My problems, on a day-to-day basis, are working with things like beans and corns and food processing equipment. But really, problem solving can be applied to anything. So I’m here to say that engineering is more than just planes and trains!”

Welcome to the seventh and final episode in Season 5 of the On the Job series on the Ali on the Run Show! We're closing out this season with a soup-er conversation celebrating women in STEM! Today, meet Jill Cardamone, a senior process engineer at Campbell's Soup Company. As a member of the Soup and Broth team in research and development, Jill acts as the middle man that takes what a food scientist creates in the kitchen and translates it to a massive scale. (She'll explain this process in excellent detail using my favorite Superhero Muffins as an example.) In her five years on the job at Campbell's, Jill has dealt with soup emergencies (really!), food supply shortages, clogged equipment during the testing processes, and more, all in search of finding the best solutions possible for when her soup makes its way to your home. Jill is a marathoner and Ironman triathlete who lives in Philadelphia, PA.

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Victoria Asikis on Episode 349 of the Ali on the Run Show

Yuma Haidara on Episode 388 of the Ali on the Run Show

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396. Ask Ali! Jul 09, 2021

“The word should can put us into tricky places. Because who’s to say what we should or should not do? A lot of things in life are a lot more nuanced than should or should not, yes or no, black or white.”

Welcome to Ask Ali, a twice-a-month series where I answer all of your questions. This time around, we’ve got listener questions about racing, nutrition, New York City must-dos, running plateaus, Orangetheory memories, and so much more. Plus: a surprise appearance by Brian Cristiano! Thanks to everyone who called in for this one. Enjoy!

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You asked:

If I could only race one distance for the rest of my life, which would it be? (3:00)
Do you have any tips for nutrition during high mileage weeks? (5:18)
What are your top must-dos and must-sees for a first trip to New York City? (10:15)
Advice for hitting a running plateau after coming back from injury (15:45)
What are my favorite protein bars? (23:15)
What is my favorite thing about being a wife? (27:05)
Ali sprints to the finish! (33:15)
How to ease back into racing when you want to sign up for all the races! (41:20)
Which Orangetheory benchmark days were my favorite? (46:30)

What I mention on this episode:

Ali on the Run Show Episode 123: Ali & the Experts Week with Kelly Hogan, Registered Dietitian

Ali on the Run Show Episode 39: Registered Dietitian Kelly Hogan

Ali on the Run Show Episode 216: LIVE on International Women’s Day

Ali on the Run Show Episode 257: Nutrition Q&A with Starla Garcia, Registered Dietitian

Ali on the Run Show Episode 200: Starla Garcia, Olympic Trials Qualifier

Ali on the Run Show Episode 327: Katie Burke on “Taking Care of You”

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395. Karissa Schweizer & Elise Cranny, Olympians Jul 08, 2021

"We’re actually going to Tokyo! This is real!"

Karissa Schweizer and Elise Cranny were already teammates as part of the Bowerman Track Club. And now they'll share another team: Team USA. At last month's U.S. Olympic Track & Field Trials, Karissa and Elise secured their spots on Team USA by racing both the 5K (where Elise won and Karissa took second) and the 10K (where Karissa made a second team, finishing in second place). On this episode, Karissa and Elise reflect on their training leading up to the Trials, and break down both rounds of the 5K and the 10K final. They talk about how their teammate Shelby Houlihan's recent four-year ban from the sport affected them emotionally leading up to the Trials, and they share their excitement about making their first Olympic teams.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Who was in the stands on race day? (6:15)
How Karissa and Elise were feeling heading into the Trials, and how the news of Shelby Houlihan’s ban affected their emotions during race week (9:30)
What it was like arriving at Hayward Field (15:00)
Breaking down the first 5K race (17:50)
Breaking down the 5K final (24:00)
How Elise and Karissa celebrated the 5K (38:00)
What was on Elise and Karissa’s minds heading into the 10K, and how the race played out (40:40)
What’s next? (54:30)
What, exactly, is team processing? (59:25)
The events Karissa and Elise loved watching at the Trials (1:03:30)

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394. Emily Sisson, Olympic Track & Field Trials 10K Champion Jul 07, 2021

"I just remember thinking during the race, 'I’m running my race and I’m doing everything I can to give myself a shot at making this team.' And at the end of the day, if it’s enough, it’s enough."

The last time Emily Sisson was on the Ali on the Run Show, it was to break down her disappointing race at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials. Today, Emily returns to the show — and this time, we're celebrating! Last month, Emily raced — and won! — the 10,000m at the U.S. Olympic Track & Field Trials, earning herself a spot on Team USA for this summer's Olympic Games. On a hot day at Hayward Field in Eugene, OR, Emily took the lead five laps into the 25-lap race, and she held it the entire time, finishing in 31:03 and breaking a 17-year-old Trials record that was formerly held by Deena Kastor. On this episode, Emily talks about the win and shares every detail from race day. She talks about how hot it really was on the track that day, explains how she recovered physically and emotionally after last year's Marathon Trials, and shares how she feels about making her first Olympic team.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Emily celebrated her 10K win (3:55)
Reflecting back on the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials (5:35)
What Emily’s training was like leading up to the Track & Field Trials (11:00)
On arriving at Hayward Field (15:45)
Emily’s thoughts on the heat and the 40-woman field (22:30)
What it’s like being the one to watch (27:00)
How Emily felt at the start of the race (33:55)
What it was like lapping the field (40:40)
On “running scared” (42:30)
When Emily knew she had the win (45:30)
What happened after the race (48:00)
What Emily has learned from training partner Molly Huddle (51:30)

What we mention on this episode:

Emily Sisson on Episode 234 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emily Sisson on Episode 169 of the Ali on the Run Show

Molly Huddle on Episode 391 of the Ali on the Run Show

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393. On the Job with Erica Sara Reese, Jewelry Designer Jul 06, 2021

“Doubting yourself doesn’t get you anywhere. I decided that I was going to make this happen, and I did.”

More than a decade ago, Erica Sara Reese was having a hard time. She had been working in the fashion industry, as a buyer for companies like Coach and Barneys New York, while pursuing a nutrition degree on the side. But she was also going through a divorce, and she wasn't happy — so she started creating, making jewelry at her dining room table. When her friends started having babies, she noticed they were often getting jewelry to commemorate the life change. And road races, Erica Sara says, were her babies at the time. So why not commemorate that with jewelry? She started designing necklaces and charms with her races and finish times on them, and soon, friends started asking her to design celebratory necklaces for their own races. Erica Sara Designs was born. Today, what started as a side hobby is now a wildly successful small business, and Erica Sara's designs can be seen at finish lines across the country, and on professional athletes like Molly Huddle, Colleen Quigley, and Alysia Montaño.

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392. Kara Goucher, Olympic Track & Field Trials Commentator Jul 02, 2021

“This was the most fun I’ve had in so long.”

If you watched any of this year's Olympic Track & Field Trials coverage, you would have heard a familiar voice calling the distance races: Kara Goucher! Kara served as commentator and member of the NBC broadcast team at Hayward Field, and today, she's here to tell all. On this episode, Kara talks about how she got the job (she will also be part of the NBC broadcast team during the Olympic Games in Tokyo later this month), how she prepared for the races, and what it was like calling all the action. She reflects on the highlights and heartbreaks from the Trials, talks about making mistakes live on air and how she handled them, and about getting the call that her husband, Adam, had gotten into a car accident right before she was about to go live. As always, Kara is open and honest, and promised nothing was off-limits during this conversation — so yes, she talks about having to wear Nike-branded apparel on air, and whether that swoosh-covering braid was intentional.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Kara feels in the wake of the Trials (4:20)
How Kara got the job to join the NBC broadcast team for the Track & Field Trials (10:00)
How Kara’s on-camera confidence improved throughout the Trials (21:30)
On misgendering Nikki Hiltz during the broadcast, and how Kara handled the mistake (22:55)
How Kara prepped and studied for the Trials (26:30)
How Kara stayed objective on air — even when some of her best friends were competing (29:15)
On the Nike of it all (31:00)
What it was like getting the call that Kara’s husband had been in a car accident right before Kara went on air (37:50)
Shoe talk, and other “rules” for the broadcast (47:00)
What it was like hearing the news break about Shelby Houlihan’s positive test, and how Kara handled covering that during the Trials (51:30)
Which performances Kara is still thinking about after the Trials (1:00:40)
Kara answers listener questions from the Ali on the Run Show Facebook group (1:14:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Kara Goucher on Episode 43 of the Ali on the Run Show

Kara Goucher on Episode 86 of the Ali on the Run Show

Kara and Adam Goucher on Episode 208 of the Ali on the Run Show

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Shelby Houlihan & Karissa Schweizer on Episode 357 of the Ali on the Run Show

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391. Catching Up with Molly Huddle Jul 01, 2021

“It felt like there was an earthquake in the running world, and we’re seeing these fault lines change everything. And some things are good, and some things are weird.”

As the current American record holder in the 10,000 meters, Molly Huddle was one to watch heading into this year's Olympic Track & Field Trials. But just a few days before the Trials kicked off in Eugene, OR, Molly (who is also the American record holder in the 10 mile, the 20K, and the half-marathon) announced that she wouldn't be racing the 10K after all. She pulled out of the race, citing an injury that she's been dealing with since last year's Olympic Marathon Trials. On this episode, Molly — who represented Team USA at the last two Olympics, in 2012 in the 5000m and in 2016 in the 10,000m — talks about what it was like scratching from the biggest race of the year, and how she's handling the loss of an Olympic cycle and a chance to be on this year's team. She talks about watching her training partner and friend Emily Sisson win the 10K, shares her Trials highlights as a fan of the sport, and reflects on the current state of the running industry as a whole. Plus, Molly talks about what's next, including her running goals, her upcoming book (How She Did It, out next year), and what's on tap for the Keeping Track podcast, which she co-hosts with Roisin McGettigan-Dumas and Alysia Montaño.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What it was like watching training partner Emily Sisson win the 10000m at the Olympic Track & Field Trials (6:20)
What it’s been like dealing with an injury for the past year (18:00)
Reflecting on racing the Mini 10K a few weeks ago (22:30)
Making the decision to scratch from the Trials (35:30)
What it was like hearing about Shelby Houlihan’s positive drug test (38:20)
How Molly felt emotionally after scratching from the Trials (41:50)
Molly’s thoughts on returning to the track, what the fall has in store for her, how book writing is going, and what’s coming soon to Keeping Track (45:00)
Molly’s “State of the Running Industry” (55:00)

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Molly Huddle on Episode 51 of the Ali on the Run Show

Molly Huddle on Episode 66 of the Ali on the Run Show

Molly Huddle on Episode 259 of the Ali on the Run Show

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390. On the Job with Beverly Everett, Symphony Orchestra Conductor Jun 29, 2021

“Classical music may not be what you have playing in your car, but when you come and see all these musicians onstage, you can really connect to it. That’s the hardest challenge — making it accessible and telling people about it.”

Beverly Everett has always been musical. As a kid, she found a passion for playing the organ — and her love for live music never waned. Today, Beverly is living her dream as a conductor and music director for two symphony orchestras (the Bismarck-Mandan Symphony Orchestra in North Dakota, and the Bemidji Symphony Orchestra in Minnesota). She's also a music teacher, an organist, a rescue dog lover, a cancer survivor, and a marathoner. On this episode, Beverly talks about what a music director does ("It's not just standing up there and waving our arms around"), shares her thoughts on the lack of women in the industry, and talks about the confidence it takes to stand in front of both an orchestra and a live audience.

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389. Brent & Kyle Pease, Ironman Duo Team Jun 24, 2021

“I started crying. It was so intense. I was shaking with fear. And I just look up at Kyle, and I say, ‘I want you to know that being your brother has been one of the greatest joys of my life. And I promise you, no matter what happens today, I’ll give you every ounce of energy that I have. And all I ask is that you do the same.’ And he looks back at me and says, ‘You got it.’ And then the cannon fires.” —Brent Pease

In 2010, Brent Pease completed his first Ironman triathlon. That night, his younger brother, Kyle — who was diagnosed with cerebral palsy as a child — asked if someone in a wheelchair could do an Ironman. Brent said yes, and the rest, as they say, is history. Growing up, the Pease family was insistent that Kyle be able to do whatever his brothers were doing. They would play games, make up the rules, and adjust them as they went along, making sure the game was fair for everyone. Inclusion, the brothers say, was always a part of their lives. (One of their mottos is "where there's a wheel, there's a way.") Today, Brent and Kyle are known around the world as one of the most competitive duo teams at triathlons and marathons. They've completed major marathons (they talk about the 2015 New York City Marathon on this episode — have your tissues ready), and they've competed together at the Ironman World Championships in Kona. (They became the first push-assisted team of brothers to do so. Proof indeed that someone in a wheelchair absolutely can do an Ironman.) They are also the founders of the Kyle Pease Foundation, whose mission is to improve the lives of people with disabilities through sports. It's an honor to have them on the show, together, today.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What it was like growing up in the Pease family (5:00)
“Can people in wheelchairs do an Ironman?” (9:00)
On starting to run — and race — together as a duo team (17:30)
What it’s like racing triathlons as a duo team (29:30)
Kyle talks about what racing feels like for him (40:30)
Looking back on the 2015 New York City Marathon (48:30)
What it was like competing at the 2018 Ironman World Championships in Kona (1:01:15)
What Brent and Kyle decided to do after Ironman 2018 (1:12:30)
How the Kyle Pease Foundation was affected by the pandemic, and what they need right now (1:15:15)
All about Jesse Itzler’s Everesting challenge, “29029” (1:18:30)

What we mention on this episode:

Beyond the Finish, by Brent and Kyle Pease

29029 Everesting

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388. On the Job with Yuma Haidara, Commercial Truck Driver Jun 22, 2021

“I had never seen a woman trucker. I was going to be an anomaly to myself.”

Yuma Haidara had a plan. After high school, she enlisted in the Navy. After serving for seven years, she went on to nursing school, in pursuit of becoming a pediatric nurse. But something caught her eye on her daily commute: a trucking school. One day, Yuma decided to pull in and see what it was all about. And the rest, as they say, is history. Yuma enrolled in the three-week course to get her commercial driver's license (CDL), and today, she is a truck driver for Walmart. Yuma, who is based out of New Hampshire, spends 14 hours a day on the road, bringing general merchandise (anything that's not groceries — so TVs, clothes, sneakers, tools, tires, even Christmas trees) to and from warehouses and stores. On this episode, she talks about why this is the perfect job and why she loves being alone in the truck with her music and audiobooks. She talks about being the only woman in her class getting her CDL, offers tips for sharing the road with truckers, and addresses stereotypes about truckers and truck stop culture. She talks about staying safe on the road, shares her scariest experience while driving, and talks about being an essential worker during the pandemic. Plus, she shares her running story, and explains how running fits into her long days on the road. And when she's not driving or running, Yuma is an entrepreneur: She's the creator of A Yummy Life body butter!

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Melissa Cummings on Episode 375 of the Ali on the Run Show

She Runs This Town

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387. Ask Ali! Jun 18, 2021

"I had the stuff I needed. I had the things. But I didn’t have the confidence."

Welcome to Ask Ali, a twice-a-month series where I answer all of your questions. This time around, we’ve got listener questions about postpartum running, what a day in the life looks like, what it's like entering the other side of the pandemic, llamas and alpacas, running in New York City, and so much more. Thanks to everyone who called in for this one. Enjoy!

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Do you have any advice for postpartum running? And what is a typical weekday like for you? (2:50)
What are you most excited for about your new home in New Hampshire? (17:45)
Do you prepare your responses to the Ask Ali episodes? (22:35)
What is it like on the other side of Covid? (33:00)
How are the llamas and alpacas next door? (44:20)
Where to run in New York City, and how to find a running group (48:20)

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Kristin Mallon on Episode 136 of the Ali on the Run Show

The Idea of You by Robinne Lee

Victoria Asikis on Episode 349 of the Ali on the Run Show

NYRR Clubs & Teams list

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386. Elise Cranny, Professional Runner for the Bowerman Track Club Jun 17, 2021

“I feel so lucky that running has made me feel empowered and given me a lot of confidence. Finding that throughout high school was something that was really life-changing for me. I really want the younger generation to have that opportunity and to see the power of sport and the power they can find in themselves and in their team, and in connecting with others who have similar goals and passions. I really want to inspire that younger generation and see all the great things that they can do.”

Welcome to U.S. Olympic Track & Field Team Trials Week! The Trials officially kick off tomorrow, June 18, at historic Hayward Field in Eugene, OR, and today's guest, Elise Cranny, is definitely one to watch. Elise runs professionally for Nike and the Bowerman Track Club, and she will be competing in both the 5K (June 18) and 10K (June 26). Elise comes into the Trials with the fastest qualifying time in the 10K, and the third-fastest time in the 5K (behind her BTC teammates Shelby Houlihan and Karissa Schweizer), and she is fit, both physically and mentally. Just a few weeks ago, Elise won the 1500m event at the Portland Track Festival, running a 4:02 and earning both a personal best and an Olympic qualifying time (though she won't be going for the 1500m at the Trials). Before going pro, Elise was a standout runner at Stanford University. She was a 12-time All-American, and finished second at NCAA Championships four times. On this episode, Elise talks about her path to the Trials, her dreams for making her first Olympic team, her history with RED-S, and her experience as a Voice in Sport mentor. Keep your eyes on Elise this week!

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Elise talks about her 1500m win at the Portland Track Festival (3:50)
Elise confirms which events she’ll be competing in at the U.S. Olympic Track & Field Trials (7:20)
On training at altitude in Park City, UT (11:50)
Comparing the 1500, 5K, and 10K (14:30)
What it’s like working with Coach Shalane Flanagan (17:50)
The workouts Elise loves — and the ones she loves a little bit less (22:00)
On getting dropped at practice (25:40)
How Elise has built her mental toughness and confidence (29:00)
What Elise says her strengths and weaknesses are on the run (31:00)
What Bowerman Track Club practice is like (35:00)
Elise shares her running story (37:00)
Elise’s experience with RED-S in college (42:10)
On the decision to go pro (46:30)
Elise looks back on her first practice with Bowerman Track Club (50:00)
Elise shares her pre-race rituals (1:01:20)
Elise’s biggest hopes, dreams, and goals both on and off the track (1:06:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Sinclaire Johnson on Episode 373 of the Ali on the Run Show

Gabriela DeBues-Stafford on Episode 353 of the Ali on the Run Show

Shelby Houlihan & Karissa Schweizer on Episode 357 of the Ali on the Run Show

Shalane Flanagan on Episode 242 of the Ali on the Run Show

Voice in Sport

Sterling K. Brown’s 2018 Stanford University commencement address

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385. On the Job with Emily Kikta, New York City Ballet Dancer Jun 15, 2021

"The whole day revolved around dance. And that, to me, was the dream."

"When I'm onstage," Emily Kikta says, "no one can stop me." Emily is living every aspiring ballerina's dream: She's a corps de ballet member at New York City Ballet, where she has been a member of the company for 10 years. On this episode, Emily talks about her road to a Center Stage-like life. She grew up competing with her local dance studio, and went on to attend the School of American Ballet, which is the feeder school for NYCB. She talks about getting a job in the company, about her first performance onstage, and about how she keeps the magic alive onstage every night. She also talks about the pandemic's impact on the arts industry, and about how she and her fiancé (fellow NYCB member Peter Walker) turned to choreographing, directing, and producing during their forced time offstage. Plus, Emily talks about body image in the dance community, what a day in the life is like, and how she got into running during the pandemic.

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384. Sarah Lesko, Oiselle's Leader of Corporate Development Jun 10, 2021

“Sometimes you just need an advocate to kick you in the pants.”

Sarah Lesko just might be one of the most-loved women in the running industry. As the leader of corporate development for Oiselle, Sarah — or "Lesko," as most call her — is beloved by her colleagues, by Oiselle's elite athletes, and by the hundreds of members of the Volée team. So what is about Lesko that makes people so drawn to her? After hearing about Oiselle from countless women on this show — Lauren Fleshman, Sally Bergesen, Alison Mariella Désir, Rebecca Mehra, Kara Goucher, Courtney Carter — it's time to hear from Lesko herself! On this episode, Sarah talks about growing up on a commune, going to (and running for) Yale, and becoming a doctor. She talks about the health issue that forced her to take an 18-year break from running, and explains what drew her back in and got her on the run again. She talks about having kids (she's a mom to three boys) while in her medical residency, and about life as a mom and family medicine doctor. And she talks about her decision to leave the medical industry in 2015 to work for Oiselle. Today, Sarah manages Oiselle's philanthropic efforts, its Bras For Girls program, and the elite team. In this conversation, she reflects on helping grow the brand, including the initiatives she's proudest of, and the missteps along the way. Plus, she talks about why, at 52, she's proud to be "faster as a master."

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How was your run today? (4:40)
What’s dominating your brain right now? (5:55)
What Sarah’s childhood was like as a self-proclaimed “child of hippies” (9:30)
On med school, raising children during med school, and becoming a family medicine doctor (14:20)
Meeting Sally Bergesen, and the road to Oiselle (22:25)
Why Sarah took 18 years off of running (25:21)
Reflecting on where Oiselle was at when Lesko entered the picture (29:50)
On leaning in to internet culture, engaging with influencers in the running space, and starting to sign and sponsor professional athletes (34:35)
What, exactly, Lesko does all day, and all about Bras for Girls (42:45)
On being so loved (48:45)
How Oiselle has evolved over the years (52:00)
On hiring Alison Mariella Désir, and the brand’s goals for DEI work (58:45)
The role running plays in Sarah’s life right now (1:05:25)

What we mention on this episode:

Sally Bergesen on Episode 48 of the Ali on the Run Show

Lauren Fleshman on Episode 103 of the Ali on the Run Show

Bras For Girls

Oiselle Light Luxe Fabric

Alison Mariella Désir on Episode 292 of the Ali on the Run Show

Kara Goucher on Episode 86 of the Ali on the Run Show

Running Industry Diversity Coalition

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383. On the Job with Joelle Tomlinson, Morning News Host Jun 08, 2021

“I always felt a special thrill with anchoring, but I had zero idea if I was any good at it! But there was potential there.”

Joelle Tomlinson wakes up at 3:02 AM — precisely — every day in pursuit of her dream job as a CTV Calgary morning news host. On this episode, Joelle talks about what it's like anchoring the news, and what her road to the news desk was like. (It involved a stopover as a weather girl!) She busts some common misperceptions about being a face on TV, talks about the pressure to look or dress a certain way, and shares the types of stories she loves covering, the ones that still give her butterflies, and the ones that have had the greatest impact on her. She talks about how she's learned to put her emotions aside when covering difficult stories, and about why, sometimes, it's OK to cry on live TV. Plus, she talks about her morning routine, dealing with criticism from viewers, and all the unseen parts of the job. When Joelle isn't live on televisions across Canada, she's most likely getting sweaty: She's an ultramarathoner and spin instructor who signed up for her next ultra within an hour of us finishing this recording!

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382. Ask Ali! Jun 04, 2021

“It’s not easy, but I’m at a point now of knowing I can handle it. It’s not always fun — but I can handle it. And I know you can, too.”

Welcome to Ask Ali, a twice-a-month series where I answer all of your questions. This time around, we’ve got listener questions about why I (mostly) stopped drinking, how to practice getting comfortable saying no, wishing for a new body, what life could be like without running and podcasting, and so much more. Thanks to everyone who called in for this one. Enjoy!

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You asked:

Why aren’t you drinking anymore? (2:30)
How do you get more comfortable saying no? (7:20)
What is my strength training routine? (14:05)
Do you have any advice for mentally getting back into running when you’ve been sidelined for a while? (17:35)
Do I ever wish for a new body? (26:35)
What is my favorite race that I’ve announced? (33:00)
What would my life be like if I didn’t start podcasting and running? (38:00)
What’s the process of choosing guests for the Ali on the Run Show? (40:00)
Tips for running in the heat (45:45)

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Rebound: Train Your Mind to Bounce Back Stronger from Sports Injuries

The Injured Athletes Club podcast

Clearwater Running Festival 2022

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381. Charlie Lawrence, Des Linden's 50K Pacer Jun 03, 2021

“This is a definite compliment from Des. She was like, ‘I like you enough where I can hang out with you for three hours!’”

In April, Des Linden made history by making her ultramarathon debut and, in the process, breaking the world record in the 50K (2:59:54) and becoming the first woman to run a 50K in under three hours. And while Des may hold the new record, she didn't go it alone: She was joined by Charlie Lawrence. Charlie ran at the University of Minnesota, and made his marathon debut at the California International Marathon in 2018, where he ran a 2:16 and earned himself an Olympic Trials qualifying time. On this episode, Charlie talks about what it was like pacing Des that day in Oregon, including what their pre-race conversation was like, what he remembers most from the race, and what he thought about his first "Shoey." And go give Charlie some love: He'll be racing the 50K road championships next weekend!

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Charlie got the job as Des’s pacer (4:20)
How Des and Charlie met (7:45)
What 2021 was looking like for Charlie on the run (9:50)
How Charlie trained and prepared for the 50K (13:30)
What Des and Charlie’s pre-race talk was like (17:30)
What the race was like (27:30)
Highlights from race day (32:40)
What the finish line and post-race celebrations were like (36:15)
What’s next for Charlie? (43:20)
Is this the life Young Charlie imagined? (47:55)

What we mention on this episode:

Des Linden on Episode 363 of the Ali on the Run Show

Billy Yang on YouTube

Calum Neff on Episode 318 of the Ali on the Run Show

The CIM Pacers on Episode 196 of the Ali on the Run Show

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380. On the Job with Rikki Gimelstob, Casting Director Jun 01, 2021

“As much as this is your job and this is serious, there’s a lot of fun and joy in the process.”

Welcome to Season 5 of the On the Job series on the Ali on the Run Show! On this series, we hear from women who have cool, unique, interesting careers — and who also happen to be runners.

We’re kicking off this season with Rikki Gimelstob, a casting director who works on films, television shows, commercials, and theater productions. (Most recently, Rikki worked on the upcoming Dear Evan Hansen film, and the new AMC show Kevin Can F**k Himself, starring Annie Murphy of Schitt’s Creek fame!) On this episode, Rikki explains what, exactly, a casting director does. She explains how she got into the industry (it involves the opera!), and addresses whether or not what she does is actually like what we’ve all seen on Entourage. Plus, she talks about some of the craziest dressing room requests she’s seen, and shares her thoughts on diversity in the industry. (When you’re done listening, go watch this — the greatest video ever on YouTube, or anywhere.)

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379. Becs Gentry, Peloton Tread & Strength Instructor May 27, 2021

“You give yourself your own life raft, and it feels so great to come up for air and think, jeez, that was a close call! But I’m here. And it’s given me strength to go further and deeper than that next time.”

Becs Gentry is a Peloton Tread and Strength instructor, and in March, she added another very impressive title to her fitness resume: 2:32 marathoner and Olympic Marathon Trials competitor for Team Great Britain. On this episode, Becs — who is from the UK but has lived in New York City since she took the Peloton job in 2019 — talks about what it was like being invited to compete for Team GB, and about what it took to finish fourth that day and to run a nearly five-minute personal best time. She talks about her training and how she prepared for race day, including how she balances her own training with teaching and how she survived a 22-mile run on a treadmill one day. She talks about the dark days and the tough runs, and how she got through them, and shares her own struggles with confidence both on and off the roads and treadmill. Plus, she talks about privacy and why she didn't tell her parents she was auditioning to be a Peloton instructor, and why she didn't tell people she was training for the Trials until shortly before race day. Finally, Becs talks about how she's learned to deal with the pressure of racing, whether it's an unplanned 5K (she did it once and says "never again") or an ultramarathon (of which she's done several).

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How the opportunity to run the Olympic Trials came about, and when it first became a dream for Becs (6:45)
Where Becs was at with running when she found out she would be competing in the Trials (17:00)
How Becs trained for the Trials (21:00)
On confidence (24:15)
That time Becs ran 22 miles on a treadmill (30:20)
How Becs balances teaching at Peloton with her own training (34:20)
What race day was like (47:00)
On dealing with tough moments during races — and getting past them (1:03:10)
How Becs recovered, physically and emotionally, from the Trials and from the 2019 New York City Marathon (1:05:10)
Did Becs have any idea how big Peloton would be, and how well-known she would be? (1:13:00)
Why Becs didn’t tell her parents she auditioned for the Peloton job (1:16:30)

What we mention on this episode:

Jess Sims on Episode 261 of the Ali on the Run Show

Tunde Oyeneyin on Episode 311 of the Ali on the Run Show

Olivia Amato on Episode 344 of the Ali on the Run Show

Matty Maggiacomo on Episode 350 of the Ali on the Run Show

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378. Ask Ali! May 21, 2021

"You don’t know everything. I share a lot, and that still is only a fraction of my life, of my thoughts, of my opinions, of my day."

Welcome to Ask Ali, a twice-a-month series where I answer all of your questions. This time around, we’ve got listener questions about the mental component of Crohn's disease, my Enneagram type (3w2!), my thoughts on raising a daughter in the era of Instagram filters, getting back into running after a long break, Outback Steakhouse, "parasocial relationships," and more. Thanks to everyone who called in for this one. Enjoy!

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You asked:

How to carry things on the run (2:29)
The mental component of Crohn’s disease + how often I use my Peloton Tread (9:27)
What is my Enneagram type? (19:59)
My thoughts on raising a daughter in the time of Instagram filters and Kardashians (25:22)
Advice for getting back into running after a long break (33:00)
My pre-race dinner, running the Falmouth Road Race, and sounding “smooth” on the microphone (40:30)
On “parasocial relationships” (46:20)

What I mention on this episode:

SPIBelt

FlipBelt

Koala Clip

lululemon Far and Free Jacket

Danielle Cemprola on Episode 41 of the Ali on the Run Show

Audio-Technica AT2020 microphone

RINGR

Audacity

Be There in Five podcast

Clearwater Running Festival 2022

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377. Colleen Quigley, lululemon Athlete May 20, 2021

“I’m the quarterback of my life. All these different people play supporting roles, and I need all of them for sure. You can’t be a team with only a quarterback. But I get to be the one in charge, making the plays. And that feels super empowering and very exciting.”

Colleen Quigley is arguably one of the most influential track and field athletes today. She's a professional athlete who primarily competes in the Steeplechase, and she's a Team USA Olympian, a Florida State University alum, an NCAA champion, a model, and a mental health advocate. Colleen spent the first five years of her professional career sponsored by Nike and competing with the Bowerman Track Club in Portland, OR. But at the end of 2020, Colleen announced she was making a change: She was no longer sponsored by Nike, and was leaving the Bowerman Track Club. Now, after many months of anticipation and much speculation, Colleen announced yesterday that she has signed with lululemon, and is officially a lululemon-sponsored athlete. On this episode, Colleen talks all about her decision to leave Nike and BTC, and about what this lululemon partnership looks like. She talks about what it's like navigating sponsorships in the running industry today (with the help of Allyson Felix's brother, Wes), and about why a less-traditional model works for her right now. Plus, she shares that she'll be moving to Los Angeles with her boyfriend this fall, and talks about how she's feeling heading into this summer's U.S. Olympic Track & Field Trials.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

All about Colleen’s new sponsorship deal, including why she left Nike and Bowerman Track Club (4:30)
What Colleen’s lululemon sponsorship (or partnership!) entails (13:30)
What shoes will Colleen be racing in? (23:15)
What Colleen has learned about the professional running scene (26:35)
Is a Peloton partnership in the works? (34:15)
On speaking up, standing up, getting loud — and reading the comments (37:00)
Why Colleen is passionate about mental health (46:00)
How has Colleen’s life been different than what she imagined? (56:00)
How Colleen is feeling — physically and mentally — heading into the U.S. Olympic Track & Field Trials (58:15)

What we mention on this episode:

Jasmine Blocker

Coffey

Running to Protest

Colleen’s "Open Letter to the Bowerman Track Club"

Armchair Expert with Prince Harry

Cheat Code

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376. Cara Enright on Completing the Goggins Challenge May 19, 2021

“I really threw myself into everything that made me uncomfortable.”

Happy Bonus Episode Day! Cara Enright is someone I've wanted to have on the show for a long time, and I couldn't decide whether to include her in the Everyday Runner series (a runner with a full-time job and lots of hobbies!) or to share her episode on a Thursday — and so, the solution is a bonus episode, in the middle, today!

Cara Enright is a New York City-based runner (and former competitive jump roper!) who works in pharmaceutical recruiting. Last month, Cara and a group of runners (including The Bachelorette's Zac Clark) completed the Goggins Challenge: They ran four miles every four hours for 48 hours straight. On this episode, Cara talks about how she got involved, how she prepared, and what the experience was like. (By the end of the challenge, the group had also raised more than $80,000 for the Release Recovery Foundation.) When she's not working or running through Times Square at 1 AM with her friends, Cara is the women's captain for the Brooklyn Track Club, and is a partner with Free People Movement.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

All about competitive jump roping (3:45)
Cara shares her running story (6:25)
On navigating the New York City running scene (9:30)
The role running plays in Cara’s life now (18:45)
How Cara’s feeling after completing the Goggins Challenge (23:30)
What it was actually like running the Goggins Challenge in NYC (32:10)
On raising more than $80K for the Release Recovery Foundation (43:30)
All about Cara’s role with Free People Movement (49:30)
What’s next on the run? (55:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Cara’s "butt jumping" video!

Julia Lucas on Episode 356 of the Ali on the Run Show

Brooklyn Track Club

Electric Athletic Club

Chris Chavez on Episode 262 of the Ali on the Run Show

Izzy Seidel on Episode 236 of the Ali on the Run Show

Izzy Seidel on Episode 341 of the Ali on the Run Show

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375. The Everyday Runner, Melissa Cummings May 18, 2021

“I’m very proud that I have managed to, in less than a year, do four half marathons. It’s not something I ever could have dreamed of doing. And I’m just proud I have really stuck it out. Because it’s hard. It’s not easy to try to work yourself back from a poor health standard, or to bring yourself out of that mental hole that people can fall into. I’m very proud that I have stood up and said, ‘I need help, and I need to make a change.’ That’s a huge step for anybody to take. The fact that I’ve taken that step and I keep moving forward… That means a lot to me.”

Welcome to the final episode of the newest series on the Ali on the Run Show: The Everyday Runner. For the past four weeks, we’ve been hearing from runners who are just like you and me. Not professional athletes — these runners have jobs, families, and responsibilities beyond this sport we all love so much.

Today, we wrap things up with Melissa Cummings, a runner — or “walker with purpose,” as she likes to say — from Manchester, NH. On this episode, Melissa shares the story of wanting to take back control of her life, and how she found running, racing, and a welcoming running club along the way. She talks about that title, “runner,” and shares her thoughts on whether or not she — as a four-time half-marathoner — has embraced it yet. She talks about what it was like joining the Millennium Running Club, and what it was like being named 2020’s Club Member of the Year. And she talks about her experience with depression, and how running has helped.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What Melissa’s childhood was like as the youngest of five children (6:45)
How Melissa found running (11:00)
How one race became a year of races (18:45)
On joining a running club (23:30)
Melissa’s quest to “take back her life” (33:30)
On becoming a half-marathoner! (35:45)
On being named Millennium Running’s Club Member of the Year (45:15)
What got Melissa to sign up for a marathon (50:40)
On owning the title, “runner” (54:00)

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374. Keturah Orji, Triple Jump American Record Holder May 13, 2021

“I noticed that there were young Black girls without role models in their communities. Because of lack of representation in our society, sometimes we don’t see people that look like us doing things that we want to do, so we think that we can’t do it. And that definitely applied to me.”

As U.S. Track & Field athletes across the country gear up for the Olympic Trials (June 18–27), triple jumper and long jumper Keturah Orji is feeling good. And rightfully so: Keturah, who was named the NCAA's Collegiate Woman of the Decade, just took back the American Record in the triple jump (14.92m)! On this episode, the 2016 Olympian and five-time U.S. champion talks about what it takes to be at the top of the jumping game. (If you're new to the triple jump and long jump, fear not: Keturah offers a "Jumping 101" halfway into the episode, breaking down what, exactly, these events entail, and what it takes to master them.) She talks about how she found jumping, what her goals are for this year's Trials, and what it was like competing at the 2016 Games, where she finished fourth in the triple jump and missed making the podium by just three centimeters. Keturah currently trains at the Chula Vista Elite Athlete Training Center in California, and when she's not there, she's working toward her master's degree in accounting.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

On setting the American Record in the triple jump (4:30)
What it was like competing at the 2016 Olympic Games, as a 20-year-old college sophomore (9:05)
Keturah’s race-day rituals (13:30)
All about Keturah’s childhood, and how she discovered running and jumping (14:30)
On the decision to go pro, and what it’s like training at the Chula Vista Elite Athlete Center (21:35)
Are jumpers getting enough credit? (28:30)
Triple Jump & Long Jump 101, and what Keturah’s training looks like right now (32:20)
Keturah’s plans and goals for the Olympic Track & Field Trials (41:10)
On being a newlywed (47:30)
“I am my ancestors’ wildest dreams” (51:50)

What we mention on this episode:

Atomic Habits by James Clear

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373. Sinclaire Johnson, Professional Runner for the Bowerman Track Club May 12, 2021

“I feel like I’m in a good position to have a real crack at making the team.”

With the U.S. Olympic Track & Field Trials coming up, now's a great time to get to know as many of the competitors as possible! Today (bonus episode day!), Bowerman Track Club's Sinclaire Johnson is here. Sinclaire is BTC's resident rookie: She joined the team last year, and made her official debut as a Bowerman member in February, where she ran and won the 800m at the Prickly Pear Invitational. (Not bad for the new kid!) On this episode, Sinclaire confirms that she will be competing in the 1500m at the Trials (her personal best is a 4:03.72, officially making her one to watch). She talks about running at Oklahoma State University, where she was the 2019 NCAA 1500m champion, and explains her decision to forgo her fifth-year eligibility in favor of going pro. She talks about signing with Nike, and about why she wanted to join Bowerman Track Club. (It has a little something to do with Shelby Houlihan.) Sinclaire and the team are training at altitude in Park City right now, though she otherwise calls Portland, OR, home.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What life is like training at altitude in Park City (3:55)
Sinclaire talks about her Bowerman Track Club racing debut — and win! (12:30)
How Sinclaire is feeling looking forward to the Track & Field Trials (17:45)
What Sinclaire’s childhood was like, and when running entered the picture (21:45)
On winning NCAA Championships in the 1500m in 2019 (31:30)
The decision to go pro (37:45)
Why Bowerman Track Club? (43:45)
All about Craig (55:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Shelby Houlihan on Episode 357 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emma Abrahamson’s “A Day in the Life of Sinclaire Johnson” video

Emma Abrahamson on Episode 319 of the Ali on the Run Show

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372. The Everyday Runner, Dr. Margi Johnson May 11, 2021

"At times in my life when I’ve struggled or when I’ve maybe been less than my best self, my mom always asks, 'When was the last time you went for a run?'"

Welcome to the newest series on the Ali on the Run Show: The Everyday Runner. On this series, we’re hearing from runners who are just like you and me. Not professional athletes — these runners have jobs, families, and responsibilities beyond this sport we all love so much.

Today, meet Dr. Margi Johnson. Margi is a family medicine physician and mom of three with big goals and dreams on the run. (Hint: She wants to qualify for the Olympic Marathon Trials someday, which would mean running a sub-2:45 marathon!) On this episode, Margi shares her story of being an "airlift baby," born in Vietnam and brought to the United States, where she was adopted and raised. She talks about being athletic as a child, but admits that running was never her first love. (She chose to be a jumper, because she wanted the sport that involved the least amount of running! The irony!) It wasn't until Margi was in her surgical residency — with two kids and a third to come — that she rediscovered and truly fell in love with running. Margi talks about what the past year has been like for frontline workers, shares her story of getting Covid a whopping three times, and explains her family's decision to relocate from New Jersey to Georgia.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Margi shares her adoption story, and what it meant to be an “airlift baby” (6:15)
How Margi became a runner — and a jumper! (14:00)
The road to becoming a doctor (21:20)
On rediscovering running as an adult, a resident, and a mother (29:30)
When Margi finally started calling herself a runner (41:45)
When Margi finds time to run, and what this past year has been like for her (50:10)
Adjusting to life in Georgia (59:45)

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371. Motherhood LIVE, with Lauren Fleshman, Alysia Montaño, Stephanie Bruce, & Dawn Harper-Nelson May 08, 2021

Happy Mother's Day! Earlier this week, I had the honor and privilege of hosting a virtual live show with four inspiring, iconic women: Lauren Fleshman, Alysia Montaño, Stephanie Bruce, and Dawn Harper-Nelson. It was an open, honest, totally unfiltered conversation about the realities of motherhood — the good, the bad, the messy, the 4 AM feedings, and the pressure we put on ourselves to, sigh, "do it all." We talked about asking for help, and why that can be more complicated than it seems, and talked about what mothers need — like really need — to thrive in society today. (And we raised more than $5,000 for &Mother — Alysia's organization that is dedicated to breaking down barriers that limit a woman's choice to pursue and thrive in both career and motherhood — in the process!)

And on a personal note: Whatever stage of motherhood you are in, please know that I see you, and you are not alone. If you're an aspiring mom, if you are trying to conceive, if you are basking in new motherhood, if you are struggling in new motherhood, if you're a seasoned mom, if you have a complicated relationship with your own mother, whatever stage or phase you are in right now, know that I see you. I see how hard you are working, how hard you are trying, how you are showing up every day, doing your best. And if no one has told you yet today: You're doing great. Truly.

Mother's Day can bring up a lot of emotions for a lot of people, and I want you to protect your heart, today and always. I hope this conversation will help some people feel seen or less alone, but I also know that spending 90 minutes hearing about motherhood may not serve a lot of people right now, so please do what is best for you. [Hug.]

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Lauren Fleshman on Episode 103 of the Ali on the Run Show

Lauren Fleshman & Jesse Thomas on Episode 161 of the Ali on the Run Show

Alysia Montaño on Episode 259 of the Ali on the Run Show

Steph Bruce on Episode 104 of the Ali on the Run Show

Steph & Ben Bruce on Episode 206 of the Ali on the Run Show

Steph Bruce on Episode 354 of the Ali on the Run Show

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370. Ask Ali! May 07, 2021

"Having an invisible illness yourself is a constant reminder that you never know what other people are dealing with."

Welcome to Ask Ali, a bi-weekly series where I answer all of your questions. This time around, we’ve got listener questions about what I'm looking forward to (and what I'm anxious about) as life begins to return to "normal," whether podcast guests ever annoy me, my personal running progression over the years, what life without Crohn's disease could have been like, and new motherhood. Thanks to everyone who called in for this one. Enjoy!

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Natalie Morales on Episode 33 of the Ali on the Run Show

Matty Maggiacomo on Episode 350 of the Ali on the Run Show

The Motherhood Center of New York

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369. Devon Pass Talks Travel, Running, Copywriting, Motherhood, & More May 06, 2021

“So, there is hope. I am still an optimist about this, and I’m doing as much as I can to keep myself healthy. If this is my destiny or whatever and there’s nothing I can do to stop it, that’s fine. But I’m gonna live my life to the fullest in the meantime, because nothing is guaranteed. So I’ll keep challenging myself to do things while my mind and my body are able.”

I have been following Devon Pass since before she was Devon Pass. Devon was one of the OG bloggers in the early 2010s, and I loved following her travel adventures on Tumblr. (She was Devon Mills at the time.) Today, Devon is married to her husband, Aaron, and they live in Washington with their five-year-old daughter, Evie. Devon is a copywriter for Nordstrom (cool!), and is a six-time marathoner. We cover a lot of ground in this episode — it really was just catching up with an old friend. Devon talks about how she learned to save money in her twenties, and how she was able to support herself while she traveled the world. She talks about the moments that made her stronger along the way, and talks about how she met her now husband. She shares her running story, and talks about what she's doing right now to get faster and stronger. She talks candidly about new motherhood, and what it was like being the first in her friend group to have a baby. And she talks about her mom, who was diagnosed with Alzheimer's disease in her sixties. (Tissue warning for this part of the conversation.) It's a well-rounded conversation that perfectly showcases this well-rounded woman.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How was your run today? (5:30)
Devon shares her running story, and talks about a recent unsettling encounter on the run (9:00)
On having a goal-oriented mentality, and where that came from (22:50)
Devon looks back on her time traveling the world alone in her early twenties (28:30)
Reflecting on new motherhood (40:00)
What Devon’s days are like as a copywriter for Nordstrom (49:20)
Why Devon says her marriage has been “stronger and happier than ever” during the pandemic (54:20)
Devon talks about her mother’s Alzheimer’s disease diagnosis (1:03:30)

What we mention on this episode:

Down Dog app

@trackclubbabe

@charihawkins

American Glutton podcast

The Total Money Makeover by Dave Ramsey

The Art of Non-Conformity

"Puzzle Pieces," Devon’s post about being a new mom

Keep Sharp by Sanjay Gupta

Let Your Mind Run by Deena Kastor

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368. The Everyday Runner, Meg Navatto May 04, 2021

"I don’t chase podiums and PRs. I have a tendency to chase clocks and cutoffs. And that’s fine with me."

Welcome to the newest series on the Ali on the Run Show: The Everyday Runner. On this series, we’re hearing from runners who are just like you and me. Not professional athletes — these runners have jobs, families, and responsibilities beyond this sport we all love so much.

Last week, we kicked things off with Jen Correa, the mom of two whose family lost everything in Hurricane Sandy.

Today, meet Meg Navatto! Meg is a cell genetic technologist from Long Island who started running at age 37. Meg's running story began when she and her husband set out to get healthy with a Couch to 5K program. Today, Meg is a 14-time marathoner and ultramarathoner. (She's run Badwater three times!) On this episode, Meg talks about what it took to (finally!) call herself a runner, and talks about why she's proud to be a back-of-the-pack runner. She talks about her emotions around finishing last in a race, and how that's changed over the years, and shares the story of the time she was told she was "too fat to be a runner." Meg is so fun, so inspiring, and so positive — you're going to love her.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What Meg’s childhood was like, and how she decided on a career path (2:45)
How Meg found running and, eventually, racing (6:45)
Meg reflects on her first 5K (16:25)
On identifying as a runner (19:00)
On finishing last at races, and why the back of the pack is awesome (23:30)
The allure of ultramarathons (27:30)
Why Meg runs to raise money for The Herren Project, and why that cause is so important to her and her family (31:50)
The time Meg was out for a training run and overheard two women say, “She’s too fat to run” (42:45)
What life is like for a cell genetic technologist (49:30)

What we mention on this episode:

Couch to 5K

Chris Mosier on Episode 13 of the Ali on the Run Show

The Herren Project

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367. Maddie Alm, Professional Runner & Registered Dietitian Apr 29, 2021

“I’m pretty close to living the dream right now.”

What do you do when you can't decide whether you want to go pro as a runner, or pursue your dream of being a registered dietitian? For Maddie Alm, the answer was "do both." Maddie lives in Boulder, CO, where she trains with Team Boss (coached by Joe Bosshard) and is the owner and founder of Fueling Forward, a sports nutrition consulting business. She's a former All-American from UC Boulder, and was a two-time USA Championships qualifier. Today, she's chasing a 5K qualifier so she can compete at the U.S. Olympic Track & Field Trials this summer. (She recently ran personal bests in both the 3K and the 5K, so things are looking good.) And when she's not chasing down her running dreams, she's working with athletes to help them improve their relationships with food. On this episode, Maddie talks about what her training is like right now, and talks about experiencing her first year being fully healthy since college. She talks about building physical and mental toughness, and shares what failure means to her. Plus, she talks about entrepreneurship during a pandemic and shares the five foods she recommends for all runners.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How was your run today? (3:15)
Maddie reflects on her first year since college being fully healthy on the run (6:30)
On failure (11:45)
Maddie’s road to professional running, and how she became a member of Team Boss (15:00)
What is a registered dietitian? (26:30)
On launching Fueling Forward — during a pandemic! (28:15)
How Maddie grew her business (33:10)
Maddie talks about her own relationship with food over the years (37:30)
What is “the dream?” (42:15)
What are the most-asked questions Maddie gets as a registered dietitian? (43:45)
What Maddie does when she’s not running or RD-ing (50:15)

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366. The Everyday Runner, Jen Correa Apr 27, 2021

“The water took everything, but we had ourselves and all of our communities and friends who made sure we had everything else.”

Welcome to the newest series on the Ali on the Run Show: The Everyday Runner. For the next four weeks, we’ll hear from runners who are just like you and me. Not professional athletes — these runners have jobs, families, and responsibilities beyond this sport we all love so much.

First up: Meet Jen Correa! Jen is a mom of two (plus two dogs!) from Staten Island, NY. She works in insurance, and we met through the running blog world in the early 2010s, when Jen was blogging at Mom’s Gotta Run. On this episode, Jen shares her running story, which started when her friend convinced her to run a Corporate Challenge race. She wasn’t an athlete growing up — “I have nightmares of gym class,” she says — but after her first race as an adult (and a pack-a-day smoker), she was hooked. Eventually, Jen gave up smoking, but she stuck with running, including marathons. In 2012, Jen and her family lost everything when Hurricane Sandy touched down in Staten Island. Their house was lifted off its foundation, and floated nearly a mile away. They had to start over, and on this episode, Jen, 46, talks about how, exactly, they did that. She shares her poignant takeaways from losing it all, and talks about the controversy surrounding the New York City Marathon’s cancellation at the time.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Reflecting back on the early 2010s, and what it was like being a part of the running community in New York City during that time (5:45)
Jen talks about her childhood, and about how she found running (9:00)
On adopting and owning the “runner” title (15:45)
On being a New Yorker on September 11, 2001 (18:30)
What Jen’s relationship with running was like during and after her pregnancies (20:00)
Jen talks about her family’s experience in the wake of Hurricane Sandy (31:30)
“When you’ve lost everything — except each other — what do you do?” (46:00)
What running — and finally running the New York City Marathon — was like after Hurricane Sandy (52:00)
What it was like running the 2016 New York City Marathon representing Staten Island as part of the Foot Locker Five Borough Challenge (1:01:30)

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Michele Gonzalez on Episode 87 of the Ali on the Run Show

Michele Gonzalez on Episode 19 of the Ali on the Run Show

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365. Catching Up with Tatyana McFadden Apr 26, 2021

"We spend so much time in our lives comparing ourselves. So my mantra is, life isn’t about what you don’t have. It’s what you do with the gifts you are given."

Tatyana McFadden is one of the most-decorated athletes of all time. She is a 17-time Paralympic medalist (she's been competing at the Games since she was 15!) and 23-time World Marathon Majors winner, and she's currently gearing up for this year's Paralympic Games in Tokyo, where she hopes to compete in every distance from the 100m up to the marathon. On this episode, Tatyana catches us up on all that's happened since the last time she was on the Ali on the Run Show. She talks about her film, Rising Phoenix, which she both helped produce and stars in. She talks about her friendship with Prince Harry, and about being on an episode of Project Runway. And she talks about her ambitious plans for Tokyo this summer, where she will compete in the Paralympics for the sixth consecutive time.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Tatyana talks about her upcoming race plans (4:45)
How is Prince Harry doing? (6:45)
All about Rising Phoenix (9:00)
Tatyana’s advice for extending longevity in this career (25:30)
Reflecting on life a year ago (33:20)
All about being on Project Runway (41:00)
On Joe Biden including the word “disability” in his victory speech last year (47:20)
How Tatyana trains to be successful at such a range of distances (50:45)
Who does Tatyana look up to? (54:30)
What the qualifying process looks like for the Paralympics (56:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Tatyana McFadden on Episode 115 of the Ali on the Run Show

Rising Phoenix on Netflix

Ya Sama! by Tatyana McFadden

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364. Ask Ali! Apr 23, 2021

"I wanted this to be a show for so long where everyone loved every episode. And don’t get me wrong, I’d still love for that to be the case! But I’ve learned that that is kind of impossible. So I’ll keep trying to trust my leaky gut and hoping many people find many things to love, but knowing I can’t be everything to everyone."

Welcome to Ask Ali, a bi-weekly series where I answer all of your questions. This time around, we’ve got listener questions about building running mileage, making friends as an adult, the future of journalism, regrets, and my love for having someone else pump my gas. Enjoy!

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36 Hours in Bar Harbor, Maine

Emilia Benton on Episode 340 of the Ali on the Run Show

Ali on the For the Long Run podcast

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363. Des Linden, Ultramarathoner & 50K Record Holder Apr 22, 2021

“Things can go off the rails quick. So as much as you want to be confident and feel like it’s gonna be easy, that’s not how this works.”

Des Linden, Olympian and 2018 Boston Marathon champion, is officially an ultramarathoner. And not just an ultramarathoner: a record-setting ultramarathoner. Last week, Des made her ultra debut, racing a 50K in Oregon, and breaking a world record in the process. She finished in 2:59:54, beating the previous world record (held by Aly Dixon) by more than seven minutes, averaging a 5:47 per mile pace, and becoming the first woman to ever run a 50K in less than three hours. On this episode, Des recaps the race and talks about what it was like running in unknown-to-her territory. She shares what it takes to annoy her on the run, tells all about “The Shoey” tradition, and talks about what’s most intriguing to her right now.

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Episode 205: Love on the Run with Des & Ryan Linden

First Voice Generation on Instagram @firstvoicegeneration

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362. Just Missed with Chanelle Price Apr 21, 2021

“I think you can almost want something too bad. Because I just wanted it so bad. I wasn’t relaxed. It wasn’t fun anymore. It was just tunnel vision on winning — and I wasn’t winning! I wanted it so bad and it wasn’t happening. It was very draining.”

What happens when you set big, dreamy, lofty goals — but when it counts the most, you fall short? That’s what this series, “Just Missed,” is about. These conversations are about dealing with disappointment. They are reminders that progress is never linear, and that it’s not always the big wins or the losses that define us, but the moments in between.

So far on this series, we’ve heard from Julia Lucas and HOKA NAZ Elite athlete Kellyn Taylor. Today, Oregon Track Club’s Chanelle Price is here.

Chanelle was a standout athlete in high school. She was named Gatorade’s Athlete of the Year, and became addicted to winning.

But when she went away to college at the University of Tennessee, she was no longer “high school Chanelle.” She wasn’t winning. She wasn’t the fastest on the team. And she struggled. She had a goal of becoming an NCAA 800m champion, but missed that goal, finishing second at both indoors and outdoors.

From there, Chanelle’s running career saw high highs and challenging lows. She decided to compete at the professional level, but struggled to find a sponsor early on. In 2014, Chanelle had a breakthrough: She won gold in the 800m at the World Athletics Indoor Championships, and became the only American woman to ever win a gold medal there. She signed with Nike. She won gold — three times — as a member of Team USA’s 4x800m relay at World Athletics Championships. She ran a personal best in the 800m: 1:59.10.

Then, in 2017, it all came crashing down. The hits came in rapid succession: a foot fracture, a pulmonary embolism that led to blood clots in her lungs, and, ultimately, a bout with mononucleosis. All of that led to her losing her sponsor. It all could’ve been career-ending, but Chanelle wouldn’t let that happen. She mounted a comeback — and last year, dealt with another foot fracture.

Today, Chanelle is up and running (up, literally, at altitude), gearing up for the U.S. Olympic Track & Field Trials. This is her story.

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Athletes in Action

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361. Cynthia Martinez, Filmmaker & Journalist Apr 15, 2021

“It’s hard for me to be back here in a lot of ways. Because it sometimes brings me back to being that little Cynthia, and feeling like my voice doesn’t matter because of the color of my skin or my hair. Like people don’t care about what I have to say. And that’s why this film is so important to me. I want these kids to be heard. I want them to know that they do matter.”

Cynthia Martinez is a 12-time marathoner and four-time Boston Marathon qualifier who has run races on four continents, completed 16 international races, and won races in Thailand and Dubai. She's a mom, a journalist (she earned her Master's degree from Columbia), and a filmmaker. And right now, Cynthia is producing a film inspired by her own life experiences and her pursuit of higher education. First Voice Generation follows six first-generation Latinx college students, and documents how they are overcoming the challenges of a global pandemic while pursuing their own collegiate careers. On this episode, Cynthia reflects (powerfully; have tissues nearby) on her own childhood as the granddaughter of Mexican migrant farm workers and hard-working parents who worked multiple jobs, and talks about the struggles her family faced. She talks about abuse and alcoholism in her home growing up, and talks about how she is rebuilding her relationships with her parents now, as a mother herself. She talks about the jobs that led her to becoming a filmmaker — including nannying for the 1% in New York City and working at Univision — and explains the role running has played along the way.

(Want to support First Voice Generation? Check out the film's Kickstarter here.)

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What you’ll get on this episode:

All about First Voice Generation (4:27)
Cynthia reflects on her own childhood (12:00)
How Cynthia found running (20:00)
Why Cynthia is a fan of only running three days a week during marathon training (23:00)
Cynthia talks about her running travels (31:45)
Cynthia’s road to becoming a mother, and her postpartum experience (35:00)
Cynthia’s career evolution, and how she became a filmmaker (51:30)
How to support First Voice Generation (59:35)

What we mention on this episode:

First Voice Generation Kickstarter

Upward Bound

Chris Heuisler on Episode 265 of the Ali on the Run Show

Kate Pallardy on Instagram @katepallardy

Lynn McGrew on Episode 339 of the Ali on the Run Show

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360. Just Missed with Kellyn Taylor Apr 14, 2021

“I think that in order to do special things, especially in running, you really have to put yourself out there. And a lot of times, it doesn’t go how you want it to. But you can learn a lot from the times that don’t go right. When things go right, you’re like yeah, that was fun, that was easy… But the ones where you really have to work for it, you really have to put your head down and grind it out, go to a dark place, get it done — you grow so much more in those situations, and you take so much more away from those times.”

What happens when you set big, dreamy, lofty goals — but when it counts the most, you fall short? That’s what this series, “Just Missed,” is about. These conversations are about dealing with disappointment. They are reminders that progress is never linear, and that it’s not always the big wins or the losses that define us, but the moments in between.

Last week, we heard from former professional runner Julia Lucas. This week, HOKA NAZ Elite athlete Kellyn Taylor is here.

Throughout her professional career, Kellyn has seen some major breakthroughs and has celebrated plenty of exciting moments. There was her win at the 2018 Grandma’s Marathon, where she ran a 2:24 just eight weeks after dropping out of the Boston Marathon. In 2019, she ran a personal best in the 5K, finished third at USATF Outdoor Championships, and placed seventh at the New York City Marathon.

But along the way, she’s dealt with some tough stuff, too. There was that DNF in Boston. Injuries. And a handful of near-misses in pursuit of becoming an Olympian — most notably, in 2016, when she finished sixth at the U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials, and then finished fourth in the 10K at the Track & Field Trials a few months later. Then, last year, she hoped to make the U.S. Olympic Marathon Team — again — but finished eighth. Now, Kellyn, who is also a mom, a foster parent, and a trained firefighter, is gearing up for this summer’s Track & Field Trials, where she again hopes to make the 10K team.

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Steph Bruce on Episode 354 of the Ali on the Run Show

A Time and A Place

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359. On the Job with Caitlin Dalton, Middle School Special Education Teacher Apr 13, 2021

“I wish more people looked at them as humans first and were not scared… They don’t know what to say, they don’t know how to act. They may be well meaning, but they don’t see it’s just OK to talk to them like you would talk to anyone else. They’re like anyone else in that they seek connection, attention, and love from the people around them.”

We’re wrapping up Season 4 of the On the Job series today, and we’re doing that by giving a big round of applause — let’s make it a standing ovation — for all the teachers out there. Teachers have been thrown so many curveballs and challenges in addition to what is already not easy work, and today, Caitlin Dalton is here to talk all about what the past year has looked like, and to reflect on pre-pandemic life in the classroom. Caitlin is a middle school special education teacher, and she is the teacher we all want or want our children to have. She is so passionate, so enthusiastic, and cares so deeply about her work. Caitlin works with students with severe disabilities, and is happy to shed light on all the great things these students are capable of. She also talks about the emotional component of her work, and about why burnout is so common among teachers. When she’s not teaching, Caitlin is an ABA (Applied Behavior Analysis) therapist for clients with autism, is an assistant cross-country coach at the school, and is, of course, a runner herself.

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358. Ask Ali! Apr 09, 2021

"It was such an immediate shift for me. I realized, this is what I need to do to love running again."

Welcome back to Ask Ali, a monthly series where I answer all of your questions. This time around, we’ve got listener questions about running without a watch, advice for first-time marathoners, my favorite things to make right now, and building confidence. Plus, an Annie cameo! Enjoy!

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Run Fast. Eat Slow.

Run Fast. Cook Fast. Eat Slow.

Rise & Run.

Coach Cane & Nicole Sin Quee on Episode 313 of the Ali on the Run Show

Hamptons Marathon recap

"11 Ways I Improved My Confidence"

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357. Shelby Houlihan & Karissa Schweizer, Bowerman Track Club Teammates Apr 08, 2021

“We get on the line and yeah, we’re competitive with each other, but as soon as we cross that line, we’re each other’s biggest fans.”

Shelby Houlihan and Karissa Schweizer are two of the fastest women on the planet right now. They run for Nike's Bowerman Track Club, and seem to have found the perfect balance of being both great friends and teammates and fierce competitors. On this episode, Shelby and Karissa — a treat to get to talk to them together! — talk about their relationship, how they first met, and what each of their respective "first runs with the Bowerman team" were like. They talk about what it's like knowing your toughest competition is right by your side — or right on your heels — at practice and on race day. And, of course, they talk about gearing up for this year's Olympic Track & Field Trials, where Shelby will compete in the 1500 and Karissa in the 5K. They talk about their biggest dreams (bringing home gold), their greatest fears, and the time they secretly went skydiving. Come for the friendship. Stay for the spontaneous ukulele concert.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How was your run today? (3:20)
The ways in which Shelby and Karissa are most similar, and which ways they’re totally different (5:20)
How Karissa and Shelby met (14:00)
Recapping Karissa’s win at last year’s 3000m National Record BU Last Chance Invitational (25:30)
On bonding (26:55)
What Shelby and Karissa were like when they were younger (28:00)
What the Bowerman Track Club women do off the track (36:15)
A ukulele concert, courtesy of Shelby! (45:30)
What the vibe is like at a Bowerman Track Club practice (48:00)
Looking forward to the Olympic Track & Field Trials (54:30)

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Gabriela DeBues-Stafford on Episode 353 of the Ali on the Run Show

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356. Just Missed with Julia Lucas Apr 07, 2021

“There are so many times you start on a journey and somewhere along the way you realize, this isn’t where I wanted to go. The beginning of this was right, and then somewhere I took a turn or didn’t take a turn, and I ended up somewhere entirely different. And it caused a meltdown. Do I love running? What in running do I love? Can I get back to what I love?”

What happens when you set big, dreamy, lofty goals — but when it counts the most, you fall short? That’s what this series, “Just Missed,” is about. For the next three weeks, these conversations are about dealing with disappointment. They are reminders that progress is never linear, and that it’s not always the big wins or the losses that define us, but the moments in between.

First up: a conversation with former professional runner Julia Lucas. Today, Julia is a writer and a run coach in New York City. But in 2012, she was running professionally with the Oregon Track Club, and her goal was to make her first Olympic team in the 5K. She lined up at the start line at the Olympic Track & Field Trials in Eugene, OR, as the hometown hero. She wanted the win. She knew she could win. She made her move early and she held it — for a while. Ultimately, though, it was the fourth-place finish seen around the world. That day at Hayward Field, Julia missed becoming an Olympian by one one-hundredth of a second. On this episode, she recounts that day and the emotions surrounding it — the buildup, the pressure, the expectations, and the aftermath. She talks about the role running plays today, and answers the question of how — or whether — that day at the 2012 Trials defined her.

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What we mention on this episode:

"A Race is a Race," by Julia Lucas for Freeplay

"The Inspiring Endurance of Coffey, The Leader of New York City’s Protest Runs," via GQ

Running to Protest

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355. On the Job with Carla Benton, Book Copy Editor & Proofreader Apr 06, 2021

“If you want to do this job, you have to be willing to assume that you could be wrong about just about everything. You need to be willing to look everything up.”

Carla Benton gets paid to read all day. Sound like the dream? As a freelance book copy editor and proofreader, Carla agrees: She's living her dream. (She worked on 70 books last year alone!) On this episode, Carla (whose twin sister, Emilia, was on the show a few weeks ago) offers a behind-the-scenes look at what it takes to get a book published. She started her career in publishing in New York City, where she worked for major publishing houses including Simon & Schuster, Macmillan, and Penguin, before moving to Chicago and going freelance. She has contributed to hundreds of books and best-sellers — including running books, like Deena Kastor's Let Your Mind Run and Becky Wade's Run the World. Carla also talks about the difference between copy editing and proofreading, what it's like editing fiction novels set amidst the pandemic, how Covid-19 is changing the industry, and diversity in publishing.

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354. Catching Up with Steph Bruce, HOKA NAZ Elite Athlete Apr 05, 2021

“I have this insatiable need to find out how good I can be. I just want to see how fast I can run and what I can accomplish. If I can make an Olympic team, if I can win the New York City Marathon. And just daring to try is what fills me with so much purpose in my daily life. Anytime I have an obstacle, I’m like yeah, but nothing else fires me up more than clawing my way back to fitness.”

Steph Bruce returns to the Ali on the Run Show today! Steph is a professional runner for HOKA NAZ Elite in Flagstaff, AZ, and today, we're catching up to hear how Steph's running has been going in the past year. Steph talks about the disappointment of finishing sixth at last year's U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials, and about how she grieved that outcome. She talks about resiliency, and about "writing her own running obituary" after tough races. And she talks about recovering and returning to the sport she'll always love. Steph offers an update on her recent plantar fasciitis injury, which forced her to drop out of The Marathon Project in December (spoiler: she's back to running 90-mile weeks!), and talks about her plans for the U.S. Olympic Track & Field Trials this summer, where she'll be racing the 10K. Plus, she talks about being a role model in the sport, about what the pandemic has been like as a mom of two young boys (Riley and Hudson), and about why she thinks people follow professional runners.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How was your run today, Steph? (2:55)
Running as a team sport vs. individual pursuit (6:45)
What it was like re-living the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials through A Time and A Place, and what the aftermath of that race was like (8:35)
Reflecting on the earliest days of the pandemic (20:00)
On the U.S. Olympic Track & Field Trials, and Steph’s love for the 10K (25:20)
Competing at the Sunset Tour 10K and the Marathon Project in 2020, and the Plantar Fasciitis injury that came next (31:15)
On being a role model in this sport (37:45)
Steph talks about writing her own “running obituary” (41:30)
Steph shares her ultimate running dreams and goals, and what’s next (47:00)
Why do people follow professional runners? (53:40)
An update on how Steph’s mom — who was diagnosed with stage 4 metastatic breast cancer last year — is doing (1:00:10)
What does GRIT mean to Steph right now? (1:03:15)

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Steph Bruce on Episode 104 of the Ali on the Run Show

Steph & Ben Bruce on Episode 206 of the Ali on the Run Show

A Time and A Place

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353. Gabriela DeBues-Stafford, 6-Time Canadian Record Holder Apr 01, 2021

“I think about it a lot, like what do I want to add to this sport? What do I want to add to my life, and what do I want my legacy to be? And I feel like it would be a hollow journey if I didn’t try to use my platform to spread a good message to make change.”

Gabriela DeBues-Stafford is having one heck of a year so far. In her debut season training and competing with the Bowerman Track Club, the Canadian professional middle-distance runner and 2016 Olympian has run — and won — two races already, including the 3000m at the Prickly Pear Invitational (where she also ran a personal best), and the 1500 at the Texas Qualifier in Austin (where she generously donated her winnings to Austin Mutual Aid). And Gabriela is doing all of this having joined the team during the pandemic, and while dealing with a Graves disease flare. On this episode, Gabriela shares her experience with a chronic autoimmune disease, and explains how it has affected her running over the years. She talks about training with the Bowerman team (and Coach Shalane!), and about being the first Canadian woman to break four minutes in the 1500. Gabriela is currently the Canadian record holder in the mile, the 1500, and the 5K — so what will it take for her to make Canada's Olympic team this year? She explains the Canadian qualifying process, and assures us that things are looking good for her heading into the 2021 Olympic Games. Plus, she talks about being queer, about proposing to her now-husband, Rowan, and about their love story.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

All about Gabriela’s hair (3:00)
How Gabriela’s feeling at the start of the 2021 season (8:25)
Gabriela’s experience with Graves Disease (11:30)
On running that 4 x 1 mile workout after the Prickly Pear Invitational race (24:30)
Why Gabriela donated her winnings to storm relief efforts after the Texas Qualifier (25:45)
On being an outspoken advocate (30:25)
Gabriela explains the Canadian Olympic team qualifying process (38:20)
What it was like competing at the 2016 Olympics in Rio (44:45)
On what it takes to be a professional runner in Canada (47:00)
Why Gabriela left Scotland to join Bowerman Track Club (51:15)
How Gabriela met her now-husband, Rowan (1:00:00)
All about training with Coach Shalane Flanagan (1:07:20)

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Austin Mutual Aid

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352. On the Job with Catherine McNamara, Public Defender Mar 30, 2021

"It’s terrifying. But I think that’s a good thing."

This week on the job, we're headed to the courtroom! Catherine McNamara is a public defender in Massachusetts — a job she says is often mischaracterized and misunderstood. So she's here to clear things up. Catherine talks about what makes her work hard, stressful, important, and rewarding, and talks about what it's like in the courtroom. She also talks about developing the confidence needed to be a litigator and trial attorney.

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351. Ramblings on the Run with Ali & Matt Mar 26, 2021

“It’s the most popular club that no one wants to join.”

Welcome to the monthly edition of Ramblings on the Run with Ali and Matt! This month, Matt Chittim — host of the Rambling Runner podcast and the Road to the Trials podcast — and I catch up on how our running is going, share what we're loving right now, and talk about what we're excited about. And then, we have a little March Madness fun — with a twist. It's the "Ramblings on the Run Fictional 5K," and we've got brackets!

What we mention on this episode:

Natural Born Heroes by Christopher McDougall

You’re Wrong About podcast

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350. Matty Maggiacomo, Peloton Instructor Mar 25, 2021

“Being able to come to work as my whole self. Being able to be out. Being able to appear on camera in drag. Hopefully for those of you that are out there listening, if you work at a company or a place where you cannot be yourself — and I know you need to make the money — it is not worth it. It is not worth it to stifle that magic. You will slowly die inside. Go work for a place where you can be Mara every single damn day. Let your freak flag fly and be who you wanna be. We are too advanced in this society to be squandering any time on not being able to be ourselves.”

Growing up in Rhode Island, Matty Maggiacomo had a tumultuous — and at times traumatizing — relationship with sports and coaches. But today, he's a fitness instructor on the world's largest streaming platform. On this episode, Matty talks about how he rediscovered fitness later in life, and how he got the job teaching treadmill and strength classes at Peloton. He talks about his dreams of being on TV, including how he made those dreams come true right out of college, and why that dream came to a screeching halt on an assignment one day. Plus, Matty talks about his sexuality and about coming out, and about the importance of letting his "freak flag fly" at work — which means we get to hear from Mara Thonner, Matty's treadmill-running alter ego, and about what it's like teaching a live class for thousands in full drag! Matty is a true joy, and this conversation is long, fun, and filled with hefty doses of both laughter and inspiration.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

On taking time off (9:15)
How Matty would describe his Peloton classes (11:00)
Getting to know Young Matty (15:45)
All about the NBC Page program, and working in live television (22:30)
How Matty got the job at Peloton (34:45)
How you learn to be a Peloton instructor (39:15)
On the magnitude of it all (49:35)
MARA joins the show! (54:20)
On the Peloton family, and how Matty feels about his colleagues (1:02:15)
Matty shares his most memorable Peloton memory thus far (1:06:30)

What we mention on this episode:

Jess Sims on Episode 261 of the Ali on the Run Show

Tunde Oyeneyin on Episode 311 of the Ali on the Run Show

Olivia Amato on Episode 344 of the Ali on the Run Show

Veneno

It’s a Sin

"The Original Jess Sims Scare"

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349. On the Job with Victoria Asikis, Food Lawyer Mar 23, 2021

“It’s definitely not like Suits. It’s way more like The Office.”

For Victoria Asikis, grocery shopping is the best. As a lawyer working in regulatory compliance for food and beverage products, strolling the aisles is basically doing market research. And on this episode, we learn what, exactly, a food lawyer does. (It's pretty fascinating stuff!) Victoria lives in Ottawa, Ontario, where she is a part of the advertising and product regulatory group at Gowling WLG, a large multinational law firm. She spends her days making sure that every word, statement, or claim on a food, beverage, or natural beauty product (like your favorite cereal box, bag of granola, or chemical-free face wash) is true and accurate. She is also the Communications Director for the Hellenic Canadian Lawyers' Association. And turns out, it's really cool work! Victoria is so passionate about what she does — and you'll be able to tell within the first two minutes of this conversation!

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348. Ask Ali! Mar 19, 2021

"Having a baby is not the end of your running goals and dreams."

Welcome back to Ask Ali, a monthly series where I answer all of your questions. This time around, we've got listener questions about running after having a baby, podcasting behind-the-scenes, getting into freelance writing, stroller recommendations, and my real thoughts on Taylor Swift's folklore vs. evermore. Enjoy!

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What I mention on this episode:

Episode 174: A Behind-the-Scenes Look at the Ali on the Run Show

Emilia Benton on Episode 340 of the Ali on the Run Show

Molly & Izzy Seidel on Episode 341 of the Ali on the Run Show

Uppababy Vista stroller

Thule Urban Glide II jogging stroller

Colugo Compact stroller

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347. Blanca Grinkovitch, 20-Time Marathoner & Director of Juma Fit Mar 18, 2021

“There comes a certain time that you just need a break. You’re human. You don’t have to feel great all the time. It’s OK to be in touch with your feelings and say, ‘I don’t feel great, and I’m going to take five days off.’ It’s fine!”

Blanca Grinkovitch is a 20-time marathoner, Ironman, lululemon ambassador, director at New Jersey treadmill studio Juma Fit, and mom of twin boys. She runs a 3:07 marathoner and a 1:29 half-marathon, and today, in her fifties, she's running stronger and healthier than ever. On this episode, Blanca talks about how she has stayed happy and healthy on the run for decades at a time. She has boundless energy and excellent advice, and you're going to love her!

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Blanca’s advice for how she is stronger than ever in her fifties (5:00)
Did Young Blanca envision this future for herself in the fitness industry? (10:00)
Blanca reflects on her first race in Central Park (14:45)
How Blanca met her husband, and what their first date (a 17-mile run) was like (19:00)
How running changed after having twins (24:00)
On start line imposter syndrome (30:15)
What running looks like for Blanca right now (35:50)
Blanca’s advice for jumping out of bed in the morning (40:50)
What “Coach Blanca” is like (45:00)

What we mention on this episode:

The Great Alone by Kristin Hannah

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346. On the Job with Beth Huang, Director of the Massachusetts Voter Table Mar 16, 2021

“People should feel like they have a real say in the decisions that impact their everyday lives.”

Beth Huang says community organizing is on her mind 24/7. As the Director of the Massachusetts Voter Table voting rights organization, it's her life's mission to get everyone everywhere (starting in Massachusetts!) registered to vote and showing up to vote. Beth and the MA Voter Table don't care how you vote — it's a nonpartisan organization — they just want you to have answers so you know how to register, how to get to the polls (no easy task in 2020!), and how to stay active in your own community. On this episode, Beth explains how they actually do this. She talks about the importance of caring about your local community, and about why it's not just the big elections every four years that matter. The MA Voter Table is especially focused on BIPOC communities, and on creating a more equitable and even playing field. This episode is a great reminder about the importance of civic access (that everyone who wants to vote can vote), civic engagement (that everyone who can vote does vote), and civic responsibility.

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345. Aliphine Tuliamuk, 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials Champion Mar 15, 2021

“In order for me to light the world on fire — I am going to do amazing things in Tokyo — I’m going to train smart, I’m going to stay out of trouble, and I’m going to stay injury free. Because I believe in my heart that even four months of training, I am going to be super fit and I’m going to have an amazing race in Tokyo. I just hope that my body is in tune with my mind. Because I know in my mind that even though I just had a child, that’s not going to be a barrier. I’m not going to make excuses. My child is going to be the motivation for me, and I know I have what it takes to succeed in Tokyo.”

Aliphine is back! Back on the run (!!!), and back on the Ali on the Run Show. The last time Aliphine Tuliamuk — the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials champion — was on the show, she was eight months pregnant, readying to give birth to a baby girl. And now, that baby girl is here: Zoe was born on January 13, 2021, and on this episode (her first postpartum podcast interview!), Aliphine reflects on her pregnancy, on giving birth, and on the first few weeks of new motherhood. She also talks about her careful and calculated return to running, as she prepares to compete at the 2021 Tokyo Olympics representing Team USA. Aliphine is open, honest, and holds nothing back.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

The advice Aliphine received as she prepares for her return to running (5:30)
Reflecting on pregnancy, labor, and delivery (7:45)
Aliphine’s post-birth scare (24:55)
On having a support system (30:15)
What has surprised Aliphine most about new motherhood (39:15)
Raising a child in the U.S. vs. Kenya (42:25)
Aliphine talks about her deliberate and careful return to running and training (50:30)
Aliphine talks about watching A Time and A Place, and looks back at the U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials experience (1:00:50)
On finding support within the professional women’s running community (1:09:20)

What we mention on this episode:

Aliphine Tuliamuk on Episode 315 of the Ali on the Run Show

A Time and A Place

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344. Olivia Amato, Peloton Instructor Mar 11, 2021

“The only person who can make you feel good about yourself is yourself. You really have to feel confident in who you are and what you bring to the table, and know that you’re enough. That’s your foundation.”

Ask any Peloton devotee about instructor Olivia Amato, and you'll probably hear the same phrase over and over: "She's a real-life Energizer Bunny." Olivia is one of the few Peloton instructors who can "do it all" — she teaches on both the bike and the treadmill, and teaches strength classes. (Her core classes will leave your entire body quivering.) But Peloton wasn't always the plan for Olivia. Though she was super sporty growing up, a guidance counselor suggested she pursue a career in finance. So when Olivia graduated high school, that's exactly what she did: went to college and then went on to Wall Street, where she worked in sales and trading. Though she thrived in the fast-paced, high-stress environment, she hated it. It wasn't her passion. She loved fitness, and as soon as she had her "a-ha" moment, that's where she headed. She got certified, got hired at a spin studio and a boxing studio, and was suddenly teaching 30 classes a week. Today, though, Olivia has found happiness, true joy, and balance as a Peloton instructor. On this episode, she talks about dealing with burnout, what to do when you realize you're not happy and need to pivot, and how she's built her confidence over the years. ("And I'm still working on it," she assures.)

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Olivia’s take on being a “real-life energizer bunny” (4:50)
Getting to know Young Olivia (9:00)
On pursuing a career in finance (12:45)
How Olivia broke into the fitness industry, and how she got the job at Peloton (18:25)
All about Olivia’s Breakthrough Runs, and a behind-the-scenes look at the programming at Peloton (29:00)
On teaching in an empty room during the pandemic (40:40)
What don’t we know about Olivia Amato? (45:15)
On the evolution of Olivia (49:00)
Is there pressure to look a certain way in the fitness industry? (54:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Jess Sims on Episode 261 of the Ali on the Run Show

Tunde Oyeneyin on Episode 311 of the Ali on the Run Show

M61 Skincare

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343. On the Job with Liz Lemon, Night Shift ER Nurse Mar 09, 2021

"I used to be a morning person. I’m not a morning person anymore!"

Liz Lemon was always destined to do two things: run and help people. Liz (and yes, she gets a lot of 30 Rock references thanks to her name) comes from a family that runs and practices medicine, so it's no surprise that Liz would do the same. She's a night shift nurse in the emergency room at a hospital in California (though she's currently on leave on account of a broken hand), while also pursuing her master's degree in nursing education. When she's not in the ER, Liz is on the run: She's a 3:44 marathoner, 1:29 half-marathoner, and 17:54 5K runner. On this episode, Liz talks about what it's really like working the front lines in a hospital (and she insists that despite what we see on Grey's Anatomy, "people aren't really hooking up in the break rooms"), explains what her days and nights really look like, and shares some of her most memorable stories from the hospital.

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342. Ce'Aira Brown, Professional Track Athlete for Hoka One One Mar 08, 2021

“Once I started to believe in myself and believe I was faster — which is the power of the mind — I started showing it.”

Ce'Aira Brown wants you to know that she's still running. She's still training (alongside Ajeé Wilson), and she's still staying true to her "talk less, grind more" mentality. (And when she's not on the run training for the 800m or 1500m, she's on the runway, modeling.) On this episode, Ce'Aira — who is a former NCAA All-American and 2016 Olympic Trials qualifier who formerly trained with Frank Gagliano and now runs professionally for Hoka One One — talks about her running journey and her career. So why don't people think she's running? Because you're pretty unlikely to see a lot of running "content" on her Instagram feed. But Ce'Aira promises, she's more in it than ever. In honor of International Women's Day, she talks about the women who inspire her, and she talks about being a role model herself. She explains why, after running a 2:02 season opener in Austin two weeks ago, she's "not satisfied, but hungry," talks about the power of positivity and hard work, and talks about how she's built mental strength and confidence.

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341. Molly & Izzy Seidel Mar 05, 2021

“The worst thing you can do is count yourself out.”

Last year, Molly Seidel ran her first marathon — at the U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials, where she finished second and earned herself a spot on the U.S. Olympic Marathon Team. And she'll be the first to tell you that she wouldn't have gotten to that start line without her #1 fan: her sister, Izzy. Now, one year later, Molly is a professional runner for Puma, training for the 2021 Olympics, and Izzy is her self-appointed hype girl. On this episode, the Seidel sisters — who are roommates in Boston — talk about what their family was like growing up, and about how their lives have changed since the Trials. Plus, they talk about the importance of "the pursuit of fun" in everything they do, and share their experiences with the comparison trap, imposter syndrome, and building confidence. (Pro tip: Having a hype girl helps!)

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Which of Molly’s races has been the most challenging? (4:30)
How Molly’s feeling after her 68:29 half-marathon PR (and race win!) in Atlanta last weekend (8:50)
All about Molly’s attitude when it comes to racing (11:00)
On getting the call that the 2021 Olympics are happening (!!!), and what her training will look like leading up to Tokyo 2021 (18:20)
Is Molly moving to Flagstaff? (25:30)
Looking back at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials, and what that day was like for the Seidels (35:40)
Molly and Izzy talk about their childhood and what growing up together was like (43:30)

What we mention on this episode:

Izzy on Episode 236 of the Ali on the Run Show

Molly’s slow mile

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340. Emilia Benton, Freelance Writer & Editor Mar 04, 2021

“I kind of spiraled into this years-long cycle of trying to constantly seek improvement in my times and not give myself a break when I really needed it.”

If you’ve read an article about running in the past few years (which, who hasn’t?), you’ve probably read something by Emilia Benton. Emilia is a freelance journalist (we talk a lot about her transition to going freelance after working in the magazine industry, and about why she’s so much happier on her own) and is a regular contributor at Runner’s World, Self, Women’s Health, Shape, Popsugar, Prevention, Verywell, Fast Company, and more. On this episode, Emilia talks about making her freelance dreams come true and about the stories she’s proudest of, and shares the one publication that’s still on her writing wish list. Plus, Emilia — who lives in Houston, TX, with her husband, Omar, and their dog, Astro — shares her running story. She explains how she’s gone from dreaming of one day running a two-hour half-marathon to recently running a sub-1:40 half, and talks about her Boston Qualifying dreams. She talks about developing a strong mental game, offers her thoughts on being a woman of color both in running and in publishing, and talks about being a twin! (Hi Carla!)

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What you’ll get on this episode:

A day in the life of a freelance journalist (6:00)
Why Emilia loves being freelance, and what the career is really like (9:40)
Emilia shares her earliest experiences with racism growing up (28:20)
Emilia’s best advice for making a scary career move (34:00)
Emilia reflects on her childhood growing up in Houston, Arizona, and Portland (38:15)
How Emilia found running (41:00)
On “learning to chill out on the run” (47:25)

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339. On the Job with Lynn McGrew, NASA Aerospace Engineer Mar 02, 2021

“A lot of science is about asking questions. It’s OK to not understand something. And it’s OK that it’s hard. That understanding comes in just being curious. We don’t have all the answers, but we know how to go about looking for them.”

Welcome to Season 4 of the On the Job series! This season, you’ll hear from seven women with cool, unique, interesting careers. We’ll learn about the jobs we see on TV — lawyers and nurses and astronauts, oh my! — and we’ll honor some frontline heroes, including an emergency room nurse and a middle school special education teacher. But first, we’re going to space, with real-life rocket scientist Lynn McGrew! Lynn is a NASA aerospace engineer based at the Johnson Space Center in Houston, TX, and on this episode, she talks about the moment she fell in love with space (“For the first time, in the middle of the country, I saw this band of stars across the sky, and I was just fascinated by it. What is this magical view overhead? I was absolutely stunned, and so curious,” she says.), explains how she broke into the competitive field, and talks about her decades-long involvement working on the Mars rovers in the jet propulsion laboratory (“JPL”), including the Phoenix, the Curiosity, and, most recently, the Perseverance. Plus, she talks about how running and cycling fit into her life.

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338. Meaghan B Murphy, Author of "Your Fully Charged Life" Feb 25, 2021

“Whatever you want to do, whether it’s to write a book or to run a marathon, you have to be brave enough and bold enough to start to say that out loud. It’s the only way you can begin to own it and then to understand how to make it happen. You have to put it out there.”

When Meaghan B Murphy was first on the Ali on the Run Show in January 2019, she casually mentioned maybe kind of sort of wanting to write a book someday. Fast forward two years, and someday is today: Meaghan’s debut book, Your Fully Charged Life, is officially on bookshelves! (Congratulations, Meaghan!) On this episode, Meaghan is back to talk about what it’s like being a newly-published author. She talks about the getting-published process, and talks about what it was like writing a book during a pandemic with three kids (plus a dog!) at home while also navigating a promotion and new job as editor in chief of Woman’s Day magazine. Meaghan talks about being terrified of getting Covid — and then getting it, and getting really sick, two weeks before she was set to record the audio version of her book. And of course, we talk about the book itself — what it is, what it isn’t, and why Meaghan insists on putting everything through a “fun filter.” If you loved hearing from Meaghan the first time she was on the show, you’ll love this update from the most upbeat (but not toxically positive!) person on the planet.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

All about the getting-published process (8:20)
What is Your Fully Charged Life — and what is it not? (22:45)
Which parts of the book were easiest and most challenging to write (29:30)
Why Meaghan wanted to include the current events in the book (40:30)
How to own an apology (46:45)
Why Meaghan no longer says “little kids, little problems — big kids, big problems” (50:15)
Meaghan’s experience with Covid-19 (53:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Meaghan Murphy on Episode 113 of the Ali on the Run Show

Meaghan on the Today show

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337. Ask Ali! Feb 19, 2021

"There's a lot of uncertainty, and getting better at that has taken a lot of practice."

Welcome to the second episode in the new monthly "Ask Ali" series — where you call in with your questions, and I answer them. This time around, we're covering everything from motherhood and going on family fun runs to how I maintain a positive attitude with a chronic illness (or do I?). I talk about the art of interviewing, finding a therapist, what it would be like if I hosted an "Ali on the Run" race, and, naturally, I offer up some hot takes on Broadway Shows, Center Stage, and The Greatest Showman.

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What I mention on this episode:

Jess Sims on Episode 261 of the Ali on the Run Show

Tunde Oyeneyin on Episode 311 of the Ali on the Run Show

"All About the Peloton Treadmill," via Ali on the Run

Subscribe to Fast Women

Rachel Gersten on Episode 198 of the Ali on the Run Show

Rachel Gersten and Jor-El Caraballo on Episode 245 of the Ali on the Run Show

The Idea of You

Bravey by Alexi Pappas

Maybe You Should Talk to Someone by Lori Gottlieb

"Racing During the Covid-19 Pandemic" via Miles From India

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336. India Cook, Co-Host of The Run Duo Feb 18, 2021

"People don’t know what you go through or the feelings you have if you don’t express and you don’t talk about them. People can have all of these assumptions about you, but unless you verbalize what’s really going on in your mind, they will never know."

When it comes to running, India Cook is passionate about sharing her story — but it's not about her, she'll tell you. It's about making sure other runners in the community feel seen, heard, and welcome on the run. India is a two-time marathoner and 15-time half-marathoner from Atlanta, GA, and she's a content creator and storyteller (and former semi-professional cheerleader, which, yes, we talk about on this episode!). India is the co-host of The Run Duo podcast and hosts the Miles From India YouTube channel. She's also an RRCA-certified run coach. On this episode, India talks about racing in the Covid-19 era, shares her thoughts on what it means to be a brand ambassador in 2021, and talks about what it has been like being a BIPOC public figure in the wake of the Black Lives Matter movement.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What it’s been like participating in “low-risk races” during the pandemic (6:15)
Looking back at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials in Atlanta (12:00)
India talks about her childhood and how running entered the picture (16:45)
All about The Run Duo podcast and the evolution of the show (27:00)
All about “Miles with India” on YouTube (40:00)
India’s thoughts on being a running brand ambassador in 2021 (46:00)
All about Coach India (55:00)

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BLACK LIVES MATTER via The Run Duo

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335. Love on the Run with Meb & Hawi Keflezighi Feb 14, 2021

“I got to be a little brother and a big fan.”

Happy Valentine's Day, and welcome to the final day of Love on the Run Week on the Ali on the Run Show! Today, we're wrapping things up with the best-loved brothers in running: Meb and Hawi Keflezighi. On this episode, Meb and Hawi talk about their childhoods, share stories of emigrating to the U.S. from Eritrea, and talk about their brother-turned-professional relationship (Hawi is Meb's agent). At the end of this week, I hope this series has made you laugh, smile, and feel the love!

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What we mention on this episode:

Hawi Keflezighi on Episode 263 of the Ali on the Run Show

Ali on the Run Show LIVE! Featuring Meb Keflezighi, Andrea Barber, Chris Heuisler, and Des Linden

LIVE at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials with Carrie Tollefson, Meb Keflezighi, & UCAN

You Can Run a Marathon with Meb Keflezighi

Run to Overcome by Meb Keflezighi

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334. Love on the Run with Sarah & Marisa Cummings Feb 13, 2021

"Best buds for life."

On the surface, sisters Sarah and Marisa Cummings seem like they could be twins. Both were competitive ice skaters and valedictorians of their respective graduating high school classes. They each went on to attend Princeton University, where they each ran on the cross-country team. Then, though three years apart, they each moved to New York City to pursue jobs in the finance industry and to run for the New York Athletic Club. But to know Sarah and Marisa is to know that they aren't identical, they swear. On this episode, Sarah and Marisa talk about their sisterly bond, and about how they've supported each other over the years.

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Sarah Cummings on Episode 215 of the Ali on the Run Show

Sarah Cummings on Episode 112 of the Ali on the Run Show

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333. Love on the Run with Matt Llano & Brannon Harbur Feb 12, 2021

“That was the kicker: Matt said, ‘If the dog doesn’t like you, you have to go.’”

One day, in Flagstaff, AZ, professional runner Matt Llano walked into a local coffee shop where Brannon Harbur was working. That first day they met, they talked for hours — long after Brannon’s shift had ended. They agreed to meet up for a first date of sorts, at a group run. Fitting, for a professional runner. But Brannon wasn’t a runner. Still, he showed up, because he was interested — in Matt, not in running. Brannon went on to run 10 miles (alongside Stephanie Bruce), getting to know Matt in the process. They’ve been together every day since then. Today, Matt is a professional runner for Under Armour and Dark Sky Distance, and Brannon is the Chief Experience Officer of Mental Performance at HYPO2. On this episode, they talk about how running factors into their relationship today, and about the time Brannon tried to teach Matt about accounting while on a long run. (It…didn’t go well.) Plus, they talk about meeting each other’s families, share their coming out stories, and talk about being LGBTQ+ role models in the running community and beyond. They live together in Flagstaff with their two dogs.

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332. Love on the Run with Kori Carter & Ajeé Wilson Feb 11, 2021

"I knew this was going to be an epic friendship."

Welcome to the fastest friendship on the track: Kori Carter and Ajeé Wilson join Love on the Run Week today! Kori is a world champion 400m hurdler, and Ajeé is a U.S. record holder in the 800m (both indoor and outdoor). On this episode, they talk about how they met and immediately bonded both on the track and off.

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USATF Instagram Live

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331. Love on the Run with Starla Garcia & Fredis Benitez Feb 10, 2021

"I just looked over at her and said, ‘We should be something.’"

She's a 2:43 marathoner and Olympic Marathon Trials finisher, and he's "not a huge runner" who runs a 2:51 marathon: Meet Starla Garcia and Fredis Benitez from Houston, TX! Starla (a returning favorite on the Ali on the Run Show) is a registered dietitian, and Fredis is a marketer and designer, and they bonded immediately over a shared love for music. On this episode, Starla and Fredis, who have been dating since 2016, talk about creating boundaries in a relationship, about not playing games, and about how Starla knew she liked him when he said he likes vegetables!

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Starla Garcia on Episode 200 of the Ali on the Run Show

Starla Garcia on Episode 257 of the Ali on the Run Show

“Why Are American Women Running Faster Than Ever?” via The New York Times

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330. Love on the Run with Alexi Pappas & Mary Cain Feb 09, 2021

"We took each other's dreams seriously, which is always a fun thing in a friendship."

It's Day 2 of Love on the Run Week, and today we're celebrating long-distance friendship. On this episode, professional runners Alexi Pappas and Mary Cain talk about their bond, which started because of running (they met at a track meet!), but quickly grew because of something so much deeper. They highlight the importance of strong, supportive adult friendships; talk about why they try not to "squeeze too tight;" and explain how they support each other from across the country.

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Alexi Pappas on Episode 296 of the Ali on the Run Show

Alexi Pappas on Episode 163 of the Ali on the Run Show

Bravey by Alexi Pappas

"Mary Cain and Alexi Pappas Both Suffered in Silence. Then They Saved Each Other." by David Alm for Runner's World

"I Was the Fastest Girl in America, Until I Joined Nike ." via New York Times Op-Docs

"I Achieved My Wildest Dreams. Then Depression Hit." via New York Times Op-Docs

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329. Love on the Run with Jenny & Jason Simpson Feb 08, 2021

"It’s not that we don’t disagree or we don’t challenge each other, because that’s a really important part of it. We definitely challenge each other and we’re always growing, but I feel like we’re constantly growing in a similar direction, and that’s why it works so well."

Welcome to Love on the Run Week! This year, we’re celebrating all different types of love leading up to Valentine’s Day — seven days, seven episodes, seven love stories, including couples, best friends, and siblings. First up: a sweet dose of romance with one of running's fastest couples. On this episode, Jenny and Jason Simpson talk about how they met and fell in love amidst backyard BBQs, Olympic debuts, and "Jason's smooth moves."

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Jenny Simpson on Episode 268 of the Ali on the Run Show

Jenny Simpson on Episode 96 of the Ali on the Run Show

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328. Erin Azar, "Mrs. Space Cadet" Feb 04, 2021

“Maybe we place too much emphasis on the idea of what other people think a runner is.”

After having her third baby, Erin Azar wasn't feeling like herself. So one day — having never run before — she decided to go outside and run a mile. From there, she committed to running a mile a day for 30 days straight, documenting her journey along the way. The result: Erin went viral on TikTok, with her first running video amassing more than one million views overnight. And when her mile-a-day month was up, she leveled up, and decided to train for and run her first marathon. Then, when said marathon was canceled due to the pandemic, she ran it anyway: virtually, and mostly alone. Erin is super honest about the realities of running being hard, especially for new runners. This is an inspiring, fun conversation for runners who are new to the sport and ones who have been doing it for decades.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Where the nickname “Mrs. Space Cadet” came from (3:45)
Erin shares her running story (8:30)
What did Erin feel was missing from the running industry? (13:45)
How it felt when Erin’s first running video jumped to one million views on TikTok — overnight (16:00)
Why Erin decided to go all-in and train for a marathon (28:00)
What it was like running a marathon for the first time — virtually (36:00)
Why Erin decided to get a coach, and why she thinks other new runners can benefit from having one, too (38:00)
Erin’s advice for first-time virtual marathoners (46:45)
What does a day in the life of Erin look like? (49:15)
Erin’s message to anyone who doesn’t feel seen or represented in the running community (52:00)

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Erin skiing

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327. Katie Burke on "Taking Care of You" Feb 02, 2021

“Your energy is your most valuable resource. How do you make sure you’re spending it on things that actually make a difference?”

As the Chief People Officer at Hubspot, it is Katie Burke's job to take care of people. So when your job is other people — whether at work or at home — how do you take care of you? On this episode, Ali on the Run Show favorite Katie Burke shares 10 practical, tactical, super important ways to make sure your needs are met. And this isn't a fluffy self-care pep talk about reading before bed or taking baths on the weekend. This is about learning to play offense in your own life. (Look at me, using sports references!) Plus, Katie talks about why you should make a "worry list," offers her own take on the over-used phrase "self-care," and explains why this advice is especially important now. (For more, read Katie's just-published post, "Taking Care of You," here.)

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"Take Care of You" by Katie Burke

Katie Burke on Episode 252 of the Ali on the Run Show

Katie Burke on Episode 84 of the Ali on the Run Show

Katie Burke on Episode 70 of the Ali on the Run Show

Brené Brown with Emily and Amelia Nagoski on Burnout

The Idea of You

Anti-Racism Daily newsletter

The Energy Project

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326. Ramblings on the Run with Ali & Matt Jan 29, 2021

“Find what makes it fun for you.”

Welcome to this month's edition of Ramblings on the Run with Ali and Matt, where Rambling Runner host Matt Chittim and I catch up on running, industry news, and our current favorite things. On this episode, we answer listener questions ranging from how we met and became friends to our best advice for new runners.

What we mention on this episode:

Bravey by Alexi Pappas

Alexi Pappas on Episode 296 of the Ali on the Run Show

Ask Ali!

"ZACH" by Billy Yang

Dinée Dorame on The Morning Shakeout

Grounded Podcast with Dinée Dorame

Dinée Dorame on Episode 239 of the Ali on the Run Show

Kamilah Journét on Episode 323 of the Ali on the Run Show

Running Realized

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325. Mirna "The Mirnavator" Valerio Jan 28, 2021

“He said, ‘If you want to see your son grow up, you need to make these changes.’ Done. That’s all I needed to hear.”

The Mirnavator is here! Mirna Valerio is a sponsored athlete, ultra runner, best-selling author (check out her book, A Beautiful Work in Progress), trained opera singer (yes, she sings on this episode!), mother, educator, activist (she leads diversity, equity, and inclusion workshops for brands including Nike and Burton), and speaker. She has appeared on the Kelly Clarkson Show and the Rich Roll podcast (twice!), she trained Will Smith for a half marathon, and she was named 2018 Adventurer of the Year by National Geographic. She's also arguably one of the most influential women in running today. On this episode, Mirna talks about how she became "The Mirnavator," explains what it was like when her blog, Fat Girl Running, went viral in 2015, and what life has been like ever since. Plus, she shares her core values, offers an exercise for how can all discover our own values, and talks about her exciting new projects (a novel! a podcast!).

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Mirna sings! (Plus, why and how she recently sang for Nigel Barker) (7:00)
What’s making Mirna happy today? (15:40)
On having an impact (23:00)
Did Young Mirna envision this future for herself, as a sponsored athlete? And how did a health scare in 2008 lead to where she is today? (26:00)
On going viral (45:00)
How Mirna ended up training Will Smith for a half marathon (56:30)
What hasn’t Mirna done? (1:10:10)
Mirna’s advice for identifying your core values (1:14:00)

What we mention on this episode:

"REI Presents Mirna Valerio, Ultra Runner"

Mirna Valerio on The Kelly Clarkson Show

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324. Ask Ali! Jan 22, 2021

"My goal is to indulge my own curiosity and hopefully pique yours as well."

Welcome to the new monthly series on the Ali on the Run Show: Ask Ali! On these episodes, I'll be answering your questions, whether they're funny, silly, or serious. First up: running with Crohn's disease, tackling the comparison trap, sports bras, podcasting, my thoughts on the dance industry and whether I see dance in Annie's future, and, uh, a hypothetical zombie apocalypse.

If you want to be part of a future "Ask Ali" episode (yay!), call 917-947-9699 — introduce yourself, and ask whatever's on your mind! I can't wait to hear from you!

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lululemon Enlite Bra

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323. Kamilah Journét, Tracksmith Marketing Manager Jan 21, 2021

“The idea that someone would try to take me down a notch really just adds fuel to my fire.”

Last week, Outside magazine published a piece called “Tracksmith Made Running Culture Something You Can Buy.” On this episode, the ever-inspiring Kamilah Journét — who is both a 4:51 miler and Tracksmith’s marketing manager — is here to offer her response to that piece. Plus, Kamilah talks about running collegiately at UC San Diego, and reflects on times when she didn’t love running. She talks about rediscovering her love for running (pro tip: her love returned when she made it about something bigger than herself!), and about the role running plays in her life right now. Before coming to Tracksmith, Kamilah worked at Hoka One One and Patagonia, so she also offers her take on how running and outdoor brands are approaching diversity, equity, and inclusion in 2021, and whether she sees progress being made in the industry.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Kamilah’s reaction to that Outside magazine piece (4:45)
All about the Tracksmith Fellowship (19:15)
On women supporting women in the industry (23:30)
The role running plays in Kamilah’s life right now (30:00)
Where Kamilah’s competitive side came from, and how running has evolved for her over the years (35:20)
On working in the running and outdoor industries (43:30)

What we mention on this episode:

Your Black Teammate

Kamilah’s Instagram response to Outside magazine's piece

Tracksmith Fellowship

Dinée Dorame on Episode 239 of the Ali on the Run Show

Lee Glandorf on Episode 240 of the Ali on the Run Show

Veronica Jackson on Episode 211 of the Ali on the Run Show

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322. Lacey Henderson, Paralympic Long Jumper Jan 14, 2021

“I went on this journey of constantly proving to people that I could do everything they could do. Because I knew I could!”

When Lacey Henderson was just nine years old, she was diagnosed with soft-tissue cancer in her leg. After trying a series of experimental treatments — none of which ultimately worked — Lacey underwent above-the-knee amputation surgery, just before her tenth birthday. Today, Lacey is a Paralympic long jumper competing at the highest level, and she'll be the first to tell you that she is so much more than her disability. (She also, on this episode, talks about that word, "disability," and reflects on why it's not quite her favorite word.) Lacey is happy, joyful, and tough, and this conversation covers everything from ableism, discovering disabled sport, and having tough conversations on the street to cheerleading and American Girl dolls.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

On being diagnosed with cancer at nine years old (7:30)
Lacey reflects on the day she had her leg amputated (10:30)
On life after amputation (17:40)
Lacey’s experience with “disability denial” (25:30)
How Lacey found running after amputation (34:45)
On overcoming “verbal constipation” (51:00)
Where Lacey is at with running right now (56:45)

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AfterShokz "Be Open" conversation

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321. Sara Hall, Winner of the Marathon Project Jan 12, 2021

“I think what I’ll take away from this sport is the resiliency it built in me. No matter what else life throws at me, I’ll know how to keep moving forward and fighting through it.”

The last time Sara Hall was on the Ali on the Run Show, she had just placed second — with the finishing kick seen around the world — at the elite-only London Marathon. This time, she’s fresh off running the elite-only Marathon Project — and this time, she took the win. In December, Sara won the Marathon Project with an 89-second personal best time of 2:20:32. She fell short of her goal that day, which was to run an American Record, besting Deena Kastor’s 2:19:36. On this episode, Sara talks about what it felt like to miss that goal, but to still have an incredible day on the run. She offers an honest take on running your best time ever but not feeling satisfied. (Relatable!) Plus, she explains what it felt like attempting to run a 5:19 pace for 26.2 miles, gives a look back at her greatest 2020 takeaways, and talks about her goals for the 2021 Olympic Track and Field Trials.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

On running better than ever at 37 (3:35)
Recapping the Marathon Project (9:15)
What does 5:19 pace feel like? (24:00)
Which was more fun: London or the Marathon Project? (28:50)
Memories from mile 20 (34:30)
How it felt when the American Record started slipping away (40:30)
What is Sara proudest of? (50:10)

What we mention on this episode:

Sara Hall on Episode 300 of the Ali on the Run Show

Sara and Ryan Hall on Episode 144 of the Ali on the Run Show

Calum Neff on Episode 318 of the Ali on the Run Show

The Run Free podcast with Ryan Hall

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320. The 2021 State of the Ali on the Run Show Jan 07, 2021

“I want every runner when they listen to this show to be reminded that regardless of your pace, your distance, how often you run, when you run — you’re a runner. I want you to know that even if you don’t see yourself in every episode, in every conversation — I see you. I see you in this community. I value you. I couldn’t do this without you. I will do my very best to make sure these conversations remain inclusive in every way possible.”

In 2020, I released 126 episodes of the Ali on the Run Show with 133 different guests. I welcomed five new sponsors (goodr, Tracksmith, Athletic Greens, Gatorade Endurance, and Atlanta Track Club), and maintained a strong partnership with longtime sponsors (AfterShokz, UCAN, and New Balance). In addition to the Thursday conversations, there was a steady stream of fun series options to choose from: Love on the Run, On the Job, Feel-Good Fridays, Ali & the Experts, What’s New With You, and On the Record. I launched a Patreon page, built a community there, and happily hosted three live shows, one of which was virtual. With more than 2.5 million downloads, 2020 was a good year for this show, at least by the numbers.

But it wasn’t easy. The state of the world forced me to do a lot of reflection, and to commit to serious changes on the show. I acknowledged — uncomfortably at times! — my own role in the running industry’s problems with racism and representation. I wrestled with how to pivot the show and these conversations once the pandemic hit.

On this episode, I’m taking a look back at the last year for the Ali on the Run Show, including sharing some key takeaways from last month’s podcast listener survey. And, ultimately, I’m looking forward so I can continue to do my best to make the Ali on the Run Show a place where all runners are seen, heard, welcomed, and represented.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Reflecting on the Ali on the Run Show in 2020, by the numbers (3:00)
The Ali on the Run Show in 2020, beyond the numbers (15:30)
On navigating how to talk about a pandemic on the podcast last March (21:00)
On addressing systemic racism and Black Lives Matter on the Ali on the Run Show in 2020 (24:45)
2020 on the personal front (30:00)
Looking back at my 2020 goals and how they played out (35:00)
Sharing responses from the Ali on the Run Show Listener Survey (41:50)
Looking forward to 2021 (1:00:31)

What I mention on this episode:

Ali on the Run Show Episode 199: My 2020 Visions, Plans, Hopes, & Dreams

Shalane Flanagan on Episode 242 of the Ali on the Run Show

Chris Heuisler on Episode 265 of the Ali on the Run Show

Tunde Oyeneyin on Episode 311 of the Ali on the Run Show

Aisha Praught Leer on Episode 197 of the Ali on the Run Show

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319. Emma Abrahamson, Running Content Creator Dec 31, 2020

"I’ve given up on myself so many times. And now this time, I’m so determined to get over this hump. I don’t want to give up on myself again. That’s what gets me out the door these days."

Emma Abrahamson is the definition of a content creator: The former University of Oregon cross-country runner has an insanely popular YouTube channel with 69,000 subscribers, a combined Instagram following of more than 80,000 on her @onecrazedfoodie account and her personal one, hosts the Convos Over Cold Brew podcast, and recently released the Crazed Foodies e-book. By sharing her own stories, Emma has become a strong role model for the next generation of runners. She's known for her authenticity, her humor, and of course, her yummy recipes. On this episode, Emma talks about her road to running industry fame, and offers her honest, vulnerable takes on mental health, body image, and confidence. She talks about her transition from college athlete to "real person," and talks about what it's like being in a family of runners (she's one of three sisters, all of whom are sub-5:00 milers!).

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Emma got started as a content creator (5:45)
The pressure that comes with living online (12:00)
On developing thick skin and responding to negative feedback or criticism (14:30)
On being a role model (16:30)
Emma talks about body confidence (20:20)
How Emma got into covering races and track meets on YouTube (27:45)
All about Emma’s triathlon training (37:20)
What keeps Emma going on tough days? (52:50)

What we mention on this episode:

"4 Women Runners Explain Why It’s Important to Embrace Your Body As It Changes," via Runner's World

Intuitive Eating by Evelyn Tribole

Zwift

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318. Calum Neff on Pacing Sara Hall at The Marathon Project Dec 24, 2020

“I was just like, my three girls are at home cheering for us, yours are right here. There’s so much love for us right now. We’ve just gotta go. Let’s do it for them.”

Last weekend, Calum Neff became known as "Green Shorts Guy" at The Marathon Project in Arizona. Calum was one of several pacers assigned to help Sara Hall run a 2:19 marathon in hopes of setting a new American record. And Calum more than earned the very important role: He's a lifelong runner with four Guinness World Records to his name, three of which are stroller running records that he's earned with each of his three daughters in tow. (A 2:31 marathon with his oldest daughter, a 1:11 half with his middle, and a 31:43 10K with his youngest.) On this episode, Calum passionately talks about his love for this sport, about how he trained (with 102-mile weeks!) and mentally prepared for his duties at The Marathon Project, and what it's like balancing running with family life and a full-time job at an energy technology company. Next up for Calum: attempting the Canadian national 50K record.

What you’ll get on this episode:

Calum’s best piece of stroller running advice (5:15)
Was running The Marathon Project about the training journey or about race day? (10:00)
How Calum got the job as a pacer, and what his training was like leading up to race day (12:50)
On imposter syndrome and the mental side of training and racing (24:15)
On meeting Sara Hall for the first time (27:30)
On communication during the race (38:00)
What’s next for Calum? (48:50)
Calum’s post-race recap (55:45)
“The art of pacing” (1:00:20)

What we mention on this episode:

The CIM Olympic Trials Qualifying Time Pacers on Episode 196 of the Ali on the Run Show

Thule Glide Performance Jogging Stroller

Thule Urban Glide II Jogging Stroller

Sara Hall on Episode 300 of the Ali on the Run Show

Sara and Ryan Hall on Episode 144 of the Ali on the Run Show

Keira D’Amato on Episode 305 of the Ali on the Run Show

Michael Gervais' "Finding Mastery" podcast

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317. Dom Scott, Professional Middle-Distance Runner for adidas Dec 23, 2020

“It was incredibly scary to leave my home country, my family, and fly overseas to a place I knew nothing about. I knew no one there. I really didn’t know what I was getting myself into. I just knew I was following my dream and following my heart.”

Dominique "Dom" Scott was born and raised in South Africa, but by the time she hit high school, she knew she wanted to move to the United States to pursue a collegiate runner career in the NCAA. And that's precisely what she did. Despite having never visited, Dom packed her bags and moved to the States, where she attended the University of Arkansas. The rest, they say, is history. Dom went on to compete at the 2016 Olympic Games in the 10,000 meters, and earned herself a sponsorship with adidas. Today, she lives in Colorado where she is a member of Joe Bosshard and Emma Coburn's "Team Boss." On this episode, Dom talks about moving to the U.S., joining the Bosshard group, and creating "The Dom Squad."

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Why everyone listening should get out for a run today (4:40)
Did Young Dom envision a future as a professional runner? (5:55)
How Dom ended up at University of Arkansas (16:20)
On coming to the United States and what that was like (20:25)
How Dom went pro (32:55)
Dom’s road to the 2016 Olympics (36:05)
On being a dual citizen (39:30)
Dom’s hopes for the 2021 Olympic Games (44:30)
All about The Dom Squad (48:45)
Dom talks about joining Team Boss in Colorado (56:45)
What Dom’s running and training are like right now (1:02.50)

What we mention on this episode:

Emma Coburn on Episode 224 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emma Coburn on Episode 96 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emma Coburn on Episode 60 of the Ali on the Run Show

Aisha Praught Leer on Episode 204 of the Ali on the Run Show

Aisha Praught Leer on Episode 197 of the Ali on the Run Show

Laura Thweatt on Episode 228 of the Ali on the Run Show

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316. Dani Jones, New Balance Professional Middle-Distance Runner Dec 21, 2020

“We made the most out of a hard year. And what we did this year is going to pay off.”

Earlier this year, four-time NCAA champion Dani Jones decided to forgo her remaining NCAA eligibility at the University of Colorado in the pursuit of going pro. She signed with an agent — Hawi Keflezighi — and joined Joe Bosshard and Emma Coburn’s training group, “Team Boss.” And today, Dani has an exciting announcement to share: She’s officially a fully sponsored professional runner, having just signed with New Balance. On this episode, Dani talks about what it’s really like going pro (particularly during this pandemic year); talks about training alongside women like Emma Coburn, Aisha Praught Leer, Cory McGee, and Dominique Scott; and divulges her biggest hopes and dreams on the run.

What you’ll get on this episode:

How it feels to be a sponsored professional athlete (3:30)
How Dani’s training has changed since joining Team Boss (7:00)
On Dani’s decision to forgo her remaining NCAA eligibility in order to go pro (9:10)
What it’s really like going pro (11:30)
Why Dani chose to sign with Hawi Keflezighi and HAWI Management (14:30)
Did Young Dani always plan to go pro? (16:40)
On joining Team Boss (30:25)
How Dani’s feeling looking to 2021 (39:30)

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315. Aliphine Tuliamuk, 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials Champion Dec 17, 2020

"I am the happiest that I have ever been in my life. It’s coming together like I always wanted."

It's been a really good year for Aliphine Tuliamuk. In February, the professional runner for Hoka One One's NAZ Elite team won the U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials, earning herself the top spot on the U.S. Olympic Marathon team. But before she heads to Tokyo in 2021, Aliphine has one very big job: have a baby! Last week, Aliphine announced to the world that she is pregnant and due with a baby girl in January. On this episode, Aliphine talks about what the past eight months have been like, what it was like revealing her big secret, and why she didn't want to wait to have a baby. She talks about the values she hopes to instill in her daughter, Zoe, and explains how raising a child in the U.S. differs from how she was raised in Kenya.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

All about Aliphine’s pregnancy and how she kept a secret for eight months (4:00)
On announcing her pregnancy to the world (7:00)
On always wanting to be a mom (10:30)
Aliphine talks about the values that were imparted on her growing up in Kenya, and the ones she wants to pass down to her daughter (20:00)
Why Aliphine and her partner, Tim, chose the name Zoe (21:50)
The advice Aliphine’s teammates have offered as she prepares to become a mom (27:00)
“I’m going to light the world on fire” (31:00)

What we mention on this episode:

"Time to Pick Up Your Crown"

"Aliphine Tuliamuk: Pregnant and Training for the Olympics," by Erin Strout for Women's Running

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314. Feel-Good Friday with Emily Halnon and *Your* Funniest Running Stories Dec 11, 2020

"On pretty much any run, you’re going to look silly or terrible at some point."

We're closing out Feel-Good Fridays for 2020 with lots of laughs — at least that's the goal! This week, Emily Halnon returns to the show to answer a few silly questions, and then to help read and share listener-submitted stories about their (your!) funniest or most embarrassing running stories. (Two themes: getting lost and, well, pooping.)

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Ali on the Run Show Episode 308: Feel-Good Friday, Funniest Hits Edition

Subscribe to Trail Mix

Emily Halnon on Episode 1 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emily Halnon on Episode 85 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emily Halnon on Episode 267 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emily Halnon on Episode 273 of the Ali on the Run Show

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313. Jonathan Cane & Nicole Sin Quee, Power Couple Dec 10, 2020

“When you put it in your head that you belong, it’s incredible how you allow yourself to succeed.”

Today, by very popular demand, Jonathan Cane and Nicole Sin Quee make their Ali on the Run Show debuts — together! Jonathan ("Coach Cane") is the founder of City Coach Multisport and author of Triathlon Anatomy, and Nicole ("NSQ") is a math teacher at Riverdale Country School in the Bronx and is a former duathlon national champion. They are parents to nine-year-old Simon, and they are two of my all-time favorite people. Coach Cane was my very first running coach, and both Jonathan and Nicole have played pivotal roles in my life on the run and beyond. (Fun fact: Coach Cane was the officiant at Brian's and my wedding!) On this fun and lighthearted episode, Jonathan and Nicole talk about how they met, how we met, and how being competitive athletes factors into their relationship. Nicole talks about how she learned to get her head in the game, and we talk about how she helped me discover my best self on the run. They talk about why they're passionate about introducing triathlon to young kids in underserved areas, and share their dreams about making triathlon more diverse and inclusive. Longtime Ali on the Run followers will love this one!

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What you’ll get on this episode:

“Who’s more competitive?” (5:10)
How Jonathan and Nicole met (16:00)
How Jonathan and Nicole found out Brian and I were secretly dating (28:30)
Jonathan talks about the most rewarding part of being a coach (31:30)
How Nicole worked on her mental strength on the run, plus advice for how to thrive (42:30)
All about the fun events Jonathan and Nicole like to organize and take part in (51:30)

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312. Feel-Good Friday, Ramblings on the Run with Ali & Matt Edition Dec 04, 2020

“My legacy?! I’m just trying to get through today.”

It's the perfect mashup: Feel-Good Fridays meets Ramblings on the Run with Ali & Matt! On this episode, Matt Chittim and I cover everything from 90s sleepover culture to our biggest dreams and regrets. Something for everyone — including a new "nosy questions" segment!

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What we mention on this episode:

New England Half Marathon recap

Manchester City Half Marathon recap

"The Bubble of a Dream" by Peter Bromka

IG Live with Aliphine Tuliamuk

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311. Tunde Oyeneyin, Peloton Instructor Dec 03, 2020

"I said to Robin in my interview, ‘If I get this job, part of my mission will be to tell people to dream and to dream big, and to dream bigger, and to dream often.' Because if this could happen for me, a daughter of immigrant parents, girl who struggled with her weight, girl who struggled with her confidence…to be one of the faces of one of the largest companies in the world, the largest connected fitness platform in the world… If I can say that that was my story, then anything can happen for any person at any time."

If you're a Peloton fan, you know Tunde Oyeneyin. She's the ultra-inspiring makeup artist turned cycling superstar whose journey to podium fame has been filled with highs, lows, twists, turns, and a whole lot of passion, persistence, and manifestation. On this episode, Tunde shares that adventure, talking about everything from the weight-loss journey that led her to the fitness world, to how she saw her future play out during a flash vision one day, to how she — eventually! — got the job at Peloton. Plus, she reflects on that recent (iconic!) Beyoncé ride, on being a Black woman in the fitness industry in 2020, and on her poignant and powerful S.P.E.A.K. series.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

All about that iconic Peloton Beyoncé ride, and what it’s like working at Peloton (3:30)
What Young Tunde was like (8:30)
Tunde shares her weight-loss story (12:20)
How Tunde built her confidence (23:40)
How Tunde became a makeup artist, and what that life was life (24:40)
How Tunde got the job at Peloton (29:10)
Tunde reflects on her earliest days at Peloton (49:20)
On being a “celebrity” (54:45)
Tunde talks about her Instagram series, S.P.E.A.K., and about the Peloton Speak Up ride (57:50)

What we mention on this episode:

Manifest Now

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310. The Great Turkey Trot of 2014 Nov 25, 2020

"You can do it, buddy!"

It’s an Ali on the Run Show Thanksgiving tradition! Six years ago, my now-husband, Brian, and I lined up at the start of two very different Turkey Trots. Though both races were five miles, the outcomes were vastly dissimilar. I ran the Prospect Park Track Club Turkey Trot in Brooklyn, NY, in a respectable 38:41 — a 7:44 minute-per-mile pace. Meanwhile, in Rhode Island, Brian was racing the Newport Pie Run. He had big dreams and big goals. Here’s a dramatic retelling of how his race went. Happy Thanksgiving!

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309. Emma Gee, LGBTQ+ Advocate Nov 24, 2020

"All the pain and all the isolation I have felt — it was all worth it for a moment like this."

Last year, runner and steeplechaser Emma Gee made history when she became the first openly out LGBTQ+ athlete at Utah's Brigham Young University — the university owned by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. On this episode, Emma powerfully and honestly shares her story. She talks about growing up in a religious family — she's one of five children — in Colorado, and explains why she decided to attend BYU. She explains the school's honor code and how it affected her as a bisexual student on campus. And she shares her coming out story, including what it was like to be the first D1 athlete in BYU's 143-year history to be publicly out, and what it was like coming out to her friends, her teammates, her coach, and her family.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Emma talks about growing up in Colorado as a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (7:20)
All about the Brigham Young University Honor Code (9:30)
Emma talks about exploring her sexuality and the realization that she was bisexual (11:50)
Emma shares her coming out story (17:30)
The impact coming out had on Emma’s running (23:00)
Emma talks about coming out to her family and to her coach and teammates (24:30)
On sharing her story for Out Sports (31:55)
How Emma’s bishop reacted to her coming out (41:00)
All about that kissing photo (50:00)
Emma talks about her book! (57:15)

What we mention on this episode:

Nikki Hiltz on Episode 294 of the Ali on the Run Show

Nikki Hiltz on Episode 188 of the Ali on the Run Show

Nikki Hiltz on Episode 170 of the Ali on the Run Show

"I am the only out LGBTQ athlete at BYU," by Emma Gee for OutSports

Myers-Briggs personality test

Common Ground

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308. Feel-Good Friday, Funniest Hits Edition Nov 20, 2020

"I need to laugh. I need to smile. I need to feel silly."

Welcome to Feel-Good Fridays, Season 3! This time around, honestly, I'm just feeling like keeping it light. Because we all know that 2020 has been a year. So for the next four weeks, my goal — my mission, should you choose to accept it — is to bring you something every Friday that will make you laugh, smile, or somehow feel lighter. I think we could all use a little levity right now. Today, we kick things off with a compilation episode: revisiting four of the Ali on the Run Show's happiest, funniest, laugh-out-loud-iest moments and conversations. Whether you're hearing these stories for the first time or revisiting them after a few years, I hope they bring you a giggle.

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307. Natalie Mitchell, "Nat Runs Far" Nov 19, 2020

“It’s gonna take a lot of work. It’s gonna take a lot of discipline and a lot of patience and a lot of throwing spaghetti at the wall and it not sticking at all.”

Natalie Mitchell just might be the most joyful runner on the planet. The always-smiling running coach, mom of three, and 12-time marathoner is perhaps best known by her Instagram moniker: “Nat Runs Far.” On this episode, she talks about how she has shaved an hour off her marathon time (from a 4:06 debut to a 3:05), and shares her dreams to qualify for the Olympic Marathon Trials. She talks about setting goals, managing expectations, and taking necessary time off. And Natalie talks about her experiences as a Black woman runner, shares her secrets to a happy marriage, and talks about her latest endeavor with her husband Jerold, the launch of the Suite Run podcast.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Is Natalie happy and smiley all the time? (4:15)
Natalie talks about her recent knee surgery and how recovery is going (5:45)
How Natalie became a runner (11:45)
On the transition from collegiate runner to real-life runner (18:30)
How Natalie has chipped away at her marathon time, going from a 4:06 to a 3:05 (22:30)
Natalie’s next running goal (28:45)
All about Coach Natalie (34:20)
Natalie is a busy mom of three — when does she run? (37:40)
Natalie’s tips for a long, happy, joyful marriage (44:45)
Natalie talks about her experience as a Black woman runner (49:45)
All about the Suite Run podcast (59:30)

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306. On the Job with Jenny Benjamin, Air Traffic Controller Nov 17, 2020

“Your teacher says you can’t have a job where you’re looking out the window all day — well that’s exactly what I do!”

We’re closing out Season 3 of the On the Job series today with Jenny Benjamin — a woman with her eyes on the skies! Jenny is an air traffic controller at Denver Centennial Airport in Colorado, and on this episode, she talks about why she loves her job so much. She explains how she and her team safely and efficiently move air traffic, and talks about why it’s so important to be seamless behind the scenes. (Their goal, she says, is to stay out of the news!) She talks about the sacrifices she has to make as a mother who works long and oftentimes demanding hours, and explains how Ironman training fits into her schedule.

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305. Keira D'Amato, "The Running Realtor" Nov 12, 2020

“You don’t let it define you. A bad day is a bad day. You just suck it up, learn what you’ve gotta learn, and move on.”

Keira D’Amato is perhaps best known as “The Running Realtor.” She is a mom of two who works full-time as a real estate agent in Virginia — and she’s a 2:34 marathoner. Though racing as we knew it was canceled in 2020, Keira’s running this year has never been better or faster. In February, she ran a personal best at the Olympic Marathon Trials, and this summer, she ran a 5K time trial on the track in 15:04, beating her lifetime best by a full minute. Most recently, Keira won the Michigan Pro Half Marathon in 1:08.57, a 64-second personal best. And now: Keira wants to break the American 10-mile record in a women’s-only race, which she’ll attempt to do on November 23. On this episode, Keira reflects on her stellar year on the run, talks about being an unsponsored elite runner, and shares some spelling bee stories and Mamma Mia hot takes.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

On running for fun (6:30)
What it’s like being a realtor right now (8:10)
On mental toughness (12:00)
Keira reflects on her 2:34 finish at the 2020 Olympic Marathon Trials (15:15)
How Keira found her way back to running after college (19:00)
Keira talks about her win at the Michigan Pro Half and about that 15:04 5K on the track this summer (28:00)
Why Keira wants to break the American 10-mile record (44:00)
How much is 2021 on Keira’s mind right now? (54:15)
On competing at such a high level — but being unsponsored (55:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Ali's "Birthday: Chill" playlist on Spotify

Ali's "Birthday: Fun & Upbeat" playlist on Spotify

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304. On the Job with Theresa Bradford, Hoka One One Sports Marketing Associate Manager Nov 09, 2020

"What makes this my dream job is realizing that I can make a difference just by showing up, just by being a woman and a woman of color, and showing up in this space and holding this space and being proud of the work that I’m doing — knowing that we stand for something more than just running, and that we’re showing that as an athlete and as a running brand, you can stand for more than just the sport you do."

Theresa Bradford just might have every runner's dream job: She's a sports marketing associate manager for Hoka One One, where she works with Hoka's 150 sponsored elite athletes. (Aliphine Tuliamuk! Steph Bruce! Kellyn Taylor!) On this episode, Theresa talks about getting her start working in Hoka's customer service department, and working her way up to her current position. (Pro tip: Ask for what you want!) She gives us a behind-the-scenes look at what it's really like working in the running industry, and talks about the important work she's doing as part of Hoka's Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion team.

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303. Feel-Good Friday with Bree Koegel, FitOn Trainer Nov 06, 2020

"Failing is your jumping off point. It’s not the end of the story — it’s the beginning. It’s one chapter in your story, and you have the whole rest of the book to change the outcome."

Bree Koegel is an absolute delight. She's a former professional dancer turned fitness instructor, and is currently a trainer on the FitOn app. (She first appeared on the Ali on the Run Show on Episode 120. Check it out!) On this episode, Bree — a new mom to four-month-old Tuck! — closes out the Feel-Good Fridays series by talking about the importance of finding joy within, and explaining how, exactly, to do that. Plus, she talks about accepting failure and creating a HIIT routine for self-love. (Burpees optional. Modifications highly encouraged!)

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302. Courtney Dauwalter, Professional Ultra Runner Nov 04, 2020

“I hope to make this feel like a sport that anyone can do, no matter who you are.”

Courtney Dauwalter is one of the greatest ultra runners of all-time. She has won Western States, the Javelina Jundred, Ultra-Trail du Mont-Blanc (UTMB), and the Moab 240-Mile Endurance Run, where she wasn’t just the first woman to finish, she was the overall winner, beating the second-place finisher by 10 hours. Most recently, Courtney was the U.S. winner of the last-man-standing-style Big’s Backyard Ultra. She ran 68 laps of a four-mile course for a grand total of 283.33 miles in 56 hours, 52 minutes, and 29 seconds. On this episode, Courtney recounts her race at Big’s, talks about her now-famous hallucinations along the way, and reflects on why we can always go further together. Plus, she talks about her attempt at running the Fastest Known Time (FKT) on the 500-mile Colorado Trail this summer, offers her take on failure, and shares her controversial Halloween candy hot takes.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Why Courtney wanted to run Big’s Backyard Ultra this year (5:45)
How Courtney prepared for this year’s event (10:00)
What the start was like at Big’s, and how Courtney strategizes for races like these (14:30)
What was Courtney rocking out to on the road? (26:00)
When did it start to hurt? (27:00)
What it’s like when people start dropping (31:30)
All about those wild hallucinations (36:15)
What it was like being the second consecutive woman to win this race (44:00)
On representation and diversity in ultra running (46:30)
On winning the Moab 240-Mile Endurance Run, and then going on Joe Rogan’s podcast (49:30)
What is Courtney proudest of? (52:20)
Courtney reflects on her attempt at running the FKT on the 500-mile Colorado Trail earlier this year (54:30)

What we mention on this episode:

Ben Chan on Episode 277 of the Ali on the Run Show

"283 Miles, Followed By Beer and Nachos for Courtney Dauwalter," by Erin Strout for Women's Running

Courtney Dauwalter on the Joe Rogan Experience

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301. On the Job with Danae Dracht, Getty Museum Cataloger Nov 03, 2020

"I’m never gonna be rich. But I do this because I love it."

Ever wondered what it's like working inside an art museum? On this episode, 2:42 marathoner and Olympic Marathon Trials runner Danae Dracht takes us all inside the J. Paul Getty Museum in Los Angeles, where she works as an archivist and cataloger. It's Danae's job to catalog artists' monographs and exhibition catalogs that have been published in multiple languages. (And no, she's not multilingual — but she explains how she makes sense of it all!) Danae explains what her job in information science entails, how she's making it work from home during the pandemic, and how she got the job at the Getty.

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300. What's New With You with Sara Hall Nov 02, 2020

"I was just telling myself, you’ve never been more ready."

It was the kick seen 'round the world — and on this episode, we get to hear all about it! Today, Sara Hall is here, talking about her amazing finish at this year's unique London Marathon. Sara came in second place during the elite-only race, finishing in a personal best time of 2:22.01. Sara first appeared on Episode 144 of the Ali on the Run Show with her husband (and coach!), Ryan, and this time around, she's offering updates on her training, her next race (The Marathon Project in December!), her family, and what it was really like being in "the bubble" in London.

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299. Feel-Good Friday with Jenny Gaither, SoulCycle Instructor Oct 29, 2020

"Someone’s either a drain or a fountain. Start focusing on your fountains."

Need a confidence boost? Not sure where to start? Perfect: You're in the right place! That's what Jenny Gaither does for a living. She's a confidence coach, founder of The Movemeant Foundation, creator of the Dare to Bare event, and a longtime SoulCycle instructor. On this episode, Jenny talks about learning to feel vulnerable when she's teaching, she advises on how to deal with toxic relationships (drains vs. fountains!), and she explains how to get started on your own journey to self-confidence.

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298. Amanda Basham, Professional Ultra Runner Oct 28, 2020

"You just have to keep going. Eventually things are going to be better."

You probably know exactly who Amanda Basham is, even if you don't realize you know who she is: She's the fiery-red-haired professional ultra runner and endurance coach who has raced all over the world at some of running's most prestigious and most grueling events, including Western States, the TransRockies Run, and World's Toughest Mudder. In 2015 — her first year as a pro — she won the 50-mile USATF Trail Championships race. Not a bad start to a pro career. (Amanda is currently sponsored by Rabbit and Altra.) Right now, Amanda is training for a different kind of endurance sport: She's 27 weeks pregnant! On this episode, Amanda talks about how pregnancy is going, and shares whether or not she always knew she wanted to be a mom. She talks about meeting now-boyfriend Justin Grunewald, and talks about love after loss — including how losing her brother two years ago to a drug overdose has shaped her life and her relationships.

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Amanda talks about how she’s feeling at 27 weeks pregnant (2:45)
Amanda shares the story of how she and Justin Grunewald met (10:45)
On navigating love after loss (16:30)
Did Amanda always know she wanted to be a mom? (23:30)
How Amanda found running (25:30)
Amanda talks about her history with an eating disorder (29:30)
On becoming a professional runner (36:45)

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297. On the Job with Elyse Garza, Flight Attendant Oct 26, 2020

“You know within your first six months whether it’s a lifestyle that you want to commit to.”

When 3:14 marathoner Elyse Garza isn't logging miles on the ground, she's getting them in the air. As a flight attendant for Alaska Airlines, Elyse says she's "living her dream" right now. On this episode, she talks about how she became a flight attendant, explains her ever-changing travel schedule, shares whether she's ever had to use the inflatable slide, and dishes about her biggest passenger pet peeves. (Hint: Stop poking the flight attendants!) Elyse lives in Sacramento, CA, is based out of San Francisco International Airport, and, fun fact, is afraid of heights!

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Julia Harrington on Episode 227 of the Ali on the Run Show

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296. What's New With You with Alexi Pappas Oct 25, 2020

“What grand treehouse can we make out of this wonderful pile of leaves and sticks that we’re given?”

Alexi Pappas — who first appeared on Episode 163 of the Ali on the Run Show — is so much more than "just" a runner. She's a professional middle-distance runner turned marathoner: Alexi made her 26.2-mile debut at the 2018 Chicago Marathon, and ran her second marathon earlier this year in Houston, finishing in 2:34, which earned her a nine-minute PR and 10th place for the day, and was just one minute off the Greek national record. She's an award-winning writer and filmmaker: Alexi co-wrote, co-directed, and co-starred in Tracktown, and most recently co-wrote and starred in Olympic Dreams, the first non-documentary-style movie to be filmed at the Olympic Games. And now, she's a published author: Alexi's book, Bravey: Chasing Dreams, Befriending Pain, and other Big Ideas, is now available for pre-order. On this episode, Alexi talks about how her mom dying by suicide when Alexi was just four years old has shaped the most formative years of her life. She talks about forming a friendship with actor and comedian Maya Rudolph, and shares the crazy story of how she got stuck in Greece for five months during the pandemic. Plus, Alexi offers exciting updates about the two films and the television show she has in the works.

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Pre-order Bravey!

Shalane Flanagan on Episode 242 of the Ali on the Run Show

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295. Feel-Good Friday with Charlee Atkins, Creator of Le Sweat TV Oct 22, 2020

“If you have a voice and you can use it to help somebody else, then by golly, use it.”

For three full years, trainer Charlee Atkins — now the founder of the wildly popular workout app and digital platform Le Sweat TV — had to seriously psych herself up to teach indoor cycling classes every day. When you're a fitness instructor, you have to show up as your best self every time for your students. But what about when you're just not feeling it? On this edition of Feel-Good Fridays, Charlee talks about how she used to psych herself up, and what she's done to make sure she never needs to fake it until she makes it again. She offers advice for finding motivation when it's lacking, opens up about her own insecurities, and talks about how being bullied as a kid has helped her become a better, stronger person. Plus, tips for how to better communicate in our new all-digital-all-the-time world.

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294. Nikki Hiltz Oct 21, 2020

“I used to think being vulnerable or authentic was weakness. Like, ‘Oh, don’t show that, don’t share your weaknesses.’ And then it’s like, wait a second, it’s the opposite. It takes great strength and bravery to live an authentic life.”

Nikki Hiltz returns to the Ali on the Run Show! This time around, Nikki — a professional 1500m runner for adidas — talks about her decision to prioritize her mental health this year instead of focusing on the track, and talks about what it means to her to be authentic. She reflects on her hugely successful Golden Coast Track Club Virtual Pride 5K, and talks about the impact of watching members of the LGBTQ+ community using that race to come out to their loved ones. Plus, Nikki explains her decision to leave Golden Coast Track Club, offers an update on her new coach, and tells us all about her girlfriend, fellow runner Emma Gee.

What you’ll get on this episode:

Nikki shares an update on her team affiliation and her coaching (3:25)
Nikki’s decision to prioritize her mental health this year (6:30)
Why Nikki loves the person she is becoming (17:15)
On authenticity (19:45)
Reflecting on the Golden Coast Track Club 5K (22:00)
All about Emma Gee, Nikki’s girlfriend (30:00)
Why Nikki is so passionate about getting people registered to vote (36:30)
How will Nikki know when it’s time to step back on the track? (38:30)

What we mention on this episode:

Nikki on Episode 188 of the Ali on the Run Show

Nikki on Episode 170 of the Ali on the Run Show

Ten Percent Happier

The Trevor Project

Myers-Briggs test (I’m ESFJ — The Consul!)

The 5 Love Languages (I’m words of affirmation!)

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293. On the Job with Dr. Monica Verduzco-Gutierrez, Covid-19 Rehabilitation Doctor Oct 19, 2020

"It was important for me to pursue this dream and make it happen. I have this belief of, you can’t be what you can’t see. So if other young girls are not seeing women as leaders and women as physicians and women in high positions and important jobs, they may not think they can be there. That made it extra important for me to continue to pursue this dream."

Every day, we are bombarded with news about the Covid-19 pandemic. But an important part of that conversation that is often missing is, "What happens after I get Covid?" Dr. Monica Verduzco-Gutierrez is here to answer that critical question. Dr. Verduzco-Gutierrez is the Professor and Chair of the Department of Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation at the Long School of Medicine at UT Health San Antonio, and she has developed a post-Covid recovery clinic to aid in the rehabilitative recovery of patients who have functional, mobility, and cognitive deficits after getting infected with the coronavirus. On this episode, Dr. Verduzco-Gutierrez — who is a two-time Boston Marathoner and mom of two — talks about her lifelong passion for medicine and for taking care of people. She discusses the very small number of Hispanic women in medicine, and explains what it means to her to be a role model in the field.

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292. What’s New With You with Alison Désir Oct 18, 2020

“I’m an ideas person — but I’m also a doer.”

Alison Désir was one of the very first guests on the Ali on the Run Show. She first appeared on Episode 3, and in the three years since she was on this podcast, Alison, who is a mental health coach and is the founder of Harlem Run, has accomplished so much, changed the world in so many ways, and has become an incredibly important voice in the running community. On this episode, Alison offers updates on all facets of her life, including becoming a mother to her son, Kouri, last year; what her pregnancy, childbirth experience, and postpartum experiences were like; and what it has been like being a tireless activist, advocate, and fighter for social justice and human rights. She talks about being sponsored by Hoka One One and Oiselle, and offers updates on the Womxn Run the Vote Relay, during which 10,000 participants raised $300,000 for Black Voters Matter, and her own Meaning Thru Movement virtual tour. Plus, Alison shares an exciting announcement about her next great project!

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What we mention on this episode:

Alison Désir On Pregnancy and New Motherhood Vs. Reality

"Ahmaud Arbery and Whiteness in the Running World," by Alison Désir for Outside Magazine

Running Industry Diversity Coalition

Runningdiversity.com/goals

"How to Make Running Deaf-Accessible" for Runner's World

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291. Feel-Good Friday with Bethany Lyons, Owner of Lyons Den Power Yoga Oct 15, 2020

"I’ve had moments of exhaustion. I’ve had moments of frustration. I’ve had an overhaul across the board, personally and professionally. This year has been a rinse. If I was naming this chapter, it’s ‘Let it burn and reset.’ And instead of fighting all these things that are literally burning or closing down or going away or having an ‘I’m so over this attitude,’ I’ve tried to embrace every letdown, every frustration, everything that’s popped up."

Welcome back to Feel-Good Fridays on the Ali on the Run Show! This time around, we're getting a series of pep talks from the people who are living, breathing pep talks every day of their lives: professional fitness instructors. First up, Bethany Lyons, owner of Lyons Den Power Yoga in New York City and creator of the newly launched Lyons Den Digital platform, talks about how, in spite of what has in many ways been the worst year ever, is thriving. In February, one of Bethany's two studio locations burned down in a fire. In March, she had to close the other location due to the pandemic. Now, in October, both are still closed. Here, Bethany explains how she's pivoted, how she's found the humor in it all, and how she's managed to have a whole lot of fun along the way. She offers advice for staying present, and hands out some tools for how we can all be our best selves today — even if it feels like the world is burning.

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290. Christine Yu, Sports Journalist Oct 14, 2020

“I’m Chinese American. My parents emigrated here from Hong Kong for college. And stereotypical as it may be, it was like, you could be a doctor, you could be a lawyer, maybe you could go into business. That was my conception of what the possibilities were for your career, for most of my life growing up. Writing never entered into my mind.”

Christine Yu is an award-winning freelance journalist who covers sports, science, and women's health. She's a leading voice in the industry, and is a regular contributor for Runner's World, Women's Running, Outside Magazine, The Washington Post, Well+Good, Women's Health, and more. And soon, she'll officially be a published book author! Christine signed a book deal earlier this year, and is now hard at work on her book about the science behind women in sports, which will be out next year. On this episode, Christine talks about her writing process and about why she's passionate about diving into "taboo topics" instead of avoiding them. Christine lives in Brooklyn with her husband and two sons.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

All about Christine’s new book! (5:00)
How Christine got her start as a journalist (21:30)
Christine shares her running story (48:25)

Stuff we mention on this episode:

“The Biggest Wave Surfed This Year” via The New York Times

“Women Deserve to Run Without Fear,” by Christine Yu for Runner’s World

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289. On the Job with Michelle La Sala, Race Director Oct 12, 2020

“I am a believer in opportunity.”

It’s been a tough year for so many brands, individuals, and industries, and within the running industry, race companies have been hit particularly hard. On this episode, Michelle La Sala, president and founder of Blistering Pace Race Management, talks about her road to race directing, and explains how the pandemic has affected her business, which specializes in managing large-scale mass participation running events. Michelle’s clients include the New York City Marathon, Chicago Marathon, Big Sur International Marathon, and Napa Valley Marathon. Previously, she was race director for the California International Marathon (CIM) and was the volunteer coordinator for the L.A. Marathon. Michelle, a 31-time marathoner with a 2:59 personal best time, talks about what she’s doing to stay afloat right now, and offers her take on how we can all support our favorite races right now.

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288. What's New With You with Chris Mosier Oct 11, 2020

“Doing the right thing is always the right thing.”

Episode 13 of the Ali on the Run Show had a massive impact — one that hasn’t slowed in the more than three years since that must-listen episode aired. Today, Episode 13’s Chris Mosier, the transgender Hall of Fame triathlete and duathlete whom The BBC and New York Magazine called “the man who changed the Olympics,” returns to the show to catch up on what he’s been up to since we recorded that conversation. Chris talks about the progress we’ve made regarding transgender rights, and addresses the steps we’ve taken in the wrong direction. He also talks about his foray into race-walking, and shares what it was like competing at the race-walking Olympic Trials earlier this year.

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Chris Mosier on the Rich Roll Podcast

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287. Sue Fortier, Breast Cancer Survivor Oct 07, 2020

“I ran out of anger. I ran because cancer was trying to stop me.”

In honor of October being Breast Cancer Awareness Month, today’s guest is Sue Fortier: an Ali on the Run Show listener, a mom of two, and a breast cancer survivor. On this episode, Sue shares her cancer story, which began when she was 37 and was training for two fall marathons. She felt some pain in her breast, which turned out to be breast cancer. Her life was immediately and forever changed. Sue, who works as a visiting nurse, underwent 16 weeks of chemotherapy treatment, followed by 25 rounds of radiation — a time she refers to as the most traumatic of her life. She talks about how and why she kept running through her treatment, and explains how her relationship with running and with her body have changed since her diagnosis.

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286. On the Job with Kimberly Kincaid, Romance Novelist Oct 05, 2020

"I think everybody needs a good happily ever after."

Welcome to Season 3 of the On the Job series! We're kicking things off this season with some love, lust, and intrigue: with USA Today best-selling romance novelist Kimberly Kincaid! In this conversation, Kimberly offers a peek at what it's like working in the billion-dollar romantic fiction industry. She talks about where she gets her inspiration (beware if you're in line in front of her at Starbucks!), about getting more than 100 rejections on the road to getting published, and about why scripting strong heroines is a must in her novels. And of course, she talks about what it's like writing steamy scenes and scintillating love stories for a living. Kimberly is currently working on her 32nd book.

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285. What's New With You with Carolyn Su Oct 05, 2020

“Real change is going to take time.”

Carolyn Su — the creator of @diversewerun — returns to the Ali on the Run Show today for the What’s New With You series. Carolyn first appeared on Episode 140 of the show, to talk about her own running story and to share why she created Diverse We Run. Today, she’s back with updates on how the account is grown, and on how she’s used her own voice over the past year. Carolyn is doing important work to help further the conversation about race within the running community, and she has deservedly been featured in Runner’s World and on several other running podcasts.

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284. Cory McGee Sep 30, 2020

“There’s an excitement to each of the races for sure, and it’s great to see your times and know you’ve run your fastest 800 or mile, and that’s huge. That always feels good… But I definitely don’t feel the same pride. It’s different.”

Cory McGee is a professional runner for New Balance. She specializes in the 1500m distance, and lives in Boulder, CO, where she trains with “Team Boss,” under the coaching of Joe Bosshard and alongside powerhouse women including Emma Coburn, Aisha Praught Leer, and Laura Thweatt. Despite 2020 playing out in a way no one intended or planned for, Cory is still having a fast year on the run. In a series of intra-squad competitions and small meets, she has run personal bests and broken records. But on this episode, she gets honest about whether those races carry the same weight and the same amount of pride as “regular” races. She also talks about her earliest days as a runner (including fun stories from her time living in Athens during the 2004 Olympics, when her dad was working security with the FBI), and talks about last year’s disqualification at the USATF Outdoor Championships.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Cory talks about being at the 2004 Olympic Games in Athens, and how that impacted her life and career (3:40)
Running for fun vs. the desire to win (12:15)
Focusing on the present vs. the future (20:50)
On getting sponsored by New Balance (23:30)
Why Cory decided to move to Boulder and to join Team Boss (31:00)
Cory talks about getting disqualified at last year’s USATF Outdoor Championships (44:20)
All about racing in 2020 (51:30)
“Cory Ann, the woman with the plan,” talks about what’s next (1:03.00)

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283. What's New With You with Beatie Deutsch Sep 27, 2020

“When I ran that 2:32 in January, it really made me realize that ‘dream big’ is not just dream big, it’s dream huge, because you have no idea of what you’re capable of.”

Speedy Beatie is back on the Ali on the Run Show this week! Beatie Deutsch is a 2:32 marathoner and mother of five who made her Ali on the Run Show debut on Episode 158. This time around, we’re catching up with Israel’s National Marathon Champion to find out how she shaved 10 minutes off her marathon time, and to learn more about her calls to the International Olympic Committee to change the date of the 2021 Olympic Marathon so it doesn’t fall on the Sabbath. She offers an update on her goal to represent Israel in the Olympics, and talks about what the pandemic has been like in Israel.

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282. Andrea Wagner, 52-Time Marathoner Sep 23, 2020

“I was in a world I could never have imagined — and I completely broke.”

Andrea Wagner had a meteoric rise to running success. She first leaned into running to cope with the stress of working at the Pentagon in the wake of the September 11 attacks in 2001. She ran her first marathon with a one-and-done mindset, finishing in 4:35 and insisting she would never do it again. (Famous last words!) More than a decade later, Andrea was a mom of two in a bad marriage, again turning to running to cope. She ran more marathons — but this time around, she was winning them. In 2014, she won the Rock N Roll New Orleans Marathon, and then went on to finish the Chicago Marathon in 2:41, earning herself an Olympic Trials qualifying time. She signed with Oiselle. She garnered the strength to leave her marriage after 10 years. And then, she lined up at the start of the 2016 Olympic Marathon Trials. But after 14 miles, she stopped running. She was done. Done with that race, and done running competitively. On this episode, Andrea, who lives in San Antonio, TX, talks about life after elite running, about finding strength from within, and about discovering your self worth.

What you’ll get on this episode:

How Andrea got started on the run, and how the September 11, 2011, terrorist attacks played a role in her running story (5:00)
What has kept Andrea running? (14:00)
Andrea talks about the challenges she faced after becoming a mom (18:30)
What did it take to go from a 4:35 marathon to a 2:41? (24:30)
On the addiction of constant progress, and a breakdown during the 2015 Boston Marathon (33:50)
On external pressure, and what happened during the 2016 Olympic Marathon Trials (50:30)

Stuff we mention on this episode:

Running Unbroken

Race Against Time

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281. What's New With You with Rachel Wyman Sep 20, 2020

“I’ve never been so tired in my life. No amount of having babies or opening businesses or anything set me up for this. Those first three months, I’ve never experienced anything so difficult in my entire life. But I just kept going.”

Welcome to the What’s New With You series on the Ali on the Run Show! For the next six weeks, I’ll be catching up with past guests to see what they’ve been up to since the last time we talked. And we’re kicking things off with the indomitable Rachel Wyman! Rachel first appeared on Episode 166 of the show, where she talked about her life as a bread baker, single mom of three, owner of Montclair Bread Company, and race director for two of New Jersey’s most popular races. On this episode, Rachel offers an update about what life for a small business owner has been like during the pandemic, and reflects on the bike accident that shattered her pelvis, and how far she’s come in the two years since the accident. (Spoiler: She ran a marathon last fall and earned a Boston Qualifying time!)

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What we mention on this episode:

Let Your Mind Run by Deena Kastor

How Bad Do You Want It? by Matt Fitzgerald

Meb Keflezighi on Episode 175 of the Ali on the Run Show

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280. Aisha Qamar, 3:02 Marathoner, Activist, & South Brooklyn Mutual Aid Volunteer Sep 16, 2020

“I keep showing up so that people know that a Pakistani Muslim woman can be a marathoner. But just because I am there doesn’t mean the work is done.”

Aisha Qamar cares deeply about her community and the people around her. She earned her master’s in public health at Columbia University, and has used that degree to learn more about and to give back to people in need. She volunteers with South Brooklyn Mutual Aid, delivering food to her neighbors in New York City, and on this episode, Aisha explains how delivering supplies on the run has brought meaning back to her running during the pandemic. She talks about finding her people and making friends when she didn’t think she belonged in the running community, and she talks about being a Muslim woman, and explains what running looks like when she is fasting during Ramadan. Aisha is on the Global Womxn Run Collective steering committee, she runs a 3:02 marathon, and she is on a mission to make sure every runner knows that you do, in fact, belong.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Aisha’s take on the global pandemic, from someone with a master’s in public health (4:00)
Aisha talks about what her family was like growing up (8:40)
All about Aisha’s job, and her career path in healthcare (15:00)
Aisha shares her running story (23:30)
How Aisha found running friends, and how she went from a 3:53 marathon to a 3:02 (32:10)
On running the L.A. Marathon earlier this year (41:30)
Running with purpose (47:00)
How Aisha got involved with South Brooklyn Mutual Aid (51:25)
How Aisha sees her role in helping work toward more diversity and representation in running (1:02.00)
The role religion plays in Aisha’s life right now (1:05.00)

What we mention on this episode:

South Brooklyn Mutual Aid

Global Womxn Run Collective

Banker to the Poor

Mountains Beyond Mountains

"Food, Clothing, Shelter: These NYC Runners Are Helping Their Neighbors Survive," by Cindy Kuzma for Runner's World

Whitney Hu on Twitter @whitney_hu

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279. Justin Grunewald Sep 09, 2020

"I think the biggest thing with grief is knowing that some days you’re gonna be drowning and unable to breathe, and I think I’ve had 12- to 24-hour cry-fests where you literally feel like you’re going to suffocate or die of dehydration. But it does end eventually. And then you take that deep breath and drink a glass of water and look outside and the world is still there. And you can keep going. Just having the hope to keep going is the most important."

Justin Grunewald is a doctor, ultra runner, and avid chaser of FKTs. He's happiest running up mountains in pursuit of running the fastest known time on any given trail. (So far in 2020, Justin has run more than 15 FKTs — two of which he did since we recorded this episode!) In addition to his many accomplishments, both professionally and on the run, Justin is perhaps best known as husband to the late Gabe Grunewald, who passed away last year after a long and arduous battle with adenoid cystic carcinoma, a rare cancer. On this episode, Justin shares what he's learned about grief, and how he finds hope even when life feels particularly hard. He talks about feeling joy amidst pain, crying happy tears alongside sad ones, and about finding love after loss. Justin opens up about meeting Amanda Basham, and reveals some big news on their behalf.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What’s making Justin happy right now? And where is he living? Plus what it’s been like working in a hospital during the past seven months (3:35)
How Justin met Gabe (16:25)
How Justin held onto hope as Gabe’s health worsened (18:50)
What the final days of Gabe’s life were like for Justin, and why he chose to share so much on social media during that time (26:40)
What Justin has learned about grief, and how he’s learned “not to sweat the small stuff” (33:30)
On “going public” about his relationship with Amanda Basham (40:55)
Taylor Swift talk! (58:25)
Justin pops in with some “wild and crazy news” (1:00.48)

Stuff we mention on this episode:

Gabe Grunewald on Episode 62 of the Ali on the Run Show

Ladia Albertson-Junkans on Episode 178 of the Ali on the Run Show

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278. Ali & the Experts with Dr. Nicole Detling, Mental Performance Coach Sep 07, 2020

"Motivation is great when it’s there, but at the end of the day, it’s all about commitment."

Dr. Detling is back! I'm thrilled to wrap up the Ali & the Experts series with returning favorite Dr. Nicole Detling, mental performance coach and founder of Headstrong Consulting. Dr. Detling has a PhD in exercise and sports science with an emphasis in sports psychology, is the author of Don't Leave Your Mind Behind, and hosts the Becoming HeadStrong podcast. On this episode, Dr. Detling — who works with top athletes, Olympians, artists, and sports teams — answers listener questions about injuries, comebacks, emotions on the run, and how to prepare for race day.

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277. Ben Chan, Ultra Runner & Activist Sep 03, 2020

"If I want things to change, I have to keep on fighting. But I can’t be the only one."

If you've ever run a race in New York City, you know Ben Chan. He's the "leopard print short-shorts and cowboy hat guy," and he's a staple on the NYC running scene. On this episode, in addition to talking about his on-the-run fashion choices, Ben shares the story of how he found running at age 30, by way of donating a kidney to a friend in need. And Ben talks about his firsthand experiences with racism, many of which he's experienced recently, and on the run. Ben talks about being the son of immigrants and grandson of refugees, and offers his perspective on what it means to create "safe spaces" and "escapes" by way of running.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

All about those amazing running outfits (6:30)
How Ben got started running — and how donating a kidney factored in (19:00)
Ben talks about his firsthand experiences with racism, both within the running community and beyond (27:30)
Why does Ben keep showing up? (51:30)

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The Years of Lyndon Johnson, by Robert Caro

April Cargill on Episode 148 of the Ali on the Run Show

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276. Ali & the Experts with Mandi Woodruff, Personal Finance Expert Sep 01, 2020

“Let’s talk about our deepest and darkest fears around money.”

This week on Ali & the Experts, we’re talking money with Mandi! Mandi Woodruff is the senior content director at Lending Tree, and is co-host of the Brown Ambition podcast. She worked as an editor and reporter on the personal finance beat at Business Insider and Yahoo Finance, and hosted both The Money Minute and The Payoff weekly web series. Plus, she’s been featured as an expert guest on Good Morning America, ABC News Tonight, CBS This Morning, NY1, and more. On this episode, Mandi answers listener questions about investing, buying a home, saving, student loans, and emotions around money.

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275. Rolanda Bell, Elite Runner Aug 27, 2020

“You know when you’re not done yet. There were goals I wanted to accomplish, and I knew they were still in me. I just needed to keep going and see what I could do.”

In 2015, Rolanda Bell was living the dream. She had graduated from the University of Tennessee, where she was a member of the historic 2009 Women’s 4x1500m relay team alongside Chanelle Price, Phoebe Wright, and Sarah Bowman. Together, they broke the existing Penn Relays, National Collegiate, American, and world records — several of which still stand, 11 years later. She went on to run professionally representing Panama — a lifelong dream. But at the 2015 World Athletics Championship in Beijing, Rolanda was competing in the 3000m steeplechase when she went over the water barrier, and landed face-first on the way down. On this episode, Rolanda, who works in marketing for Hoka One One, talks about falling in love with running, going pro, and getting back up and finishing that race in Beijing. She talks about bouncing back, training with the NorCal Distance Project, and why, even after a career as a professional middle-distance athlete, she felt pressure to run a marathon. (Rolanda runs a 4:38 indoor mile, a 1:16 half marathon, and ran a 2:49 in her marathon debut.) She also talks about her experiences with racism living in New York City.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Why Rolanda felt “pressure” to run a marathon (5:45)
How Rolanda got started on the run (9:15)
Why Rolanda decided to keep running after college (22:15)
Rolanda reflects on that “traumatizing” race at the 2015 World Athletics Championships in Beijing (26:00)
What life as a pro athlete with NorCal Distance looked like, and why Rolanda decided to move back to New York (41:00)
On finding “balance” when you work in the running industry (49:00)
On attending the “All Crews One Run” in NYC earlier this summer, and Roland shares her own experiences with racism (56:00)

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274. Ali & the Experts with Kaitlin Goodman, Running Coach Aug 24, 2020

“Running isn’t canceled! You can still be improving during this time.”

Kaitlin Goodman is a 2:32 marathoner and four-time Olympic Trials qualifier who runs professionally for the Boston Athletic Association and adidas. Kaitlin — a frequent Ali on the Run Show guest and fan favorite — is incredibly versatile on the run. She has qualified for the Olympic Trials four times — in three different distances! (The 5K, 10K, and marathon.) And she’s a running coach with a master’s in public health. Kaitlin is the founder of Running Joyfully, where she coaches runners of all abilities. She’s also the founder of Safe on the Road, a nonprofit education and advocacy organization that promotes pedestrian and cyclist safety.

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273. Emily Halnon, Fastest Known Runner on the Oregon Pacific Crest Trail Aug 19, 2020

"We as humans have the capacity to surprise ourselves with how much stronger we are than we think we are. You don’t get to make those discoveries unless you do something that challenges you to probe that question: Can I do this? Am I capable of this?"

The last time Emily Halnon was here, she talked about her big, brave, bold goal: to run the fastest known time (FKT) on the Oregon Pacific Crest Trail. And spoiler: She did it! And now, Emily is back to talk about how she ran 453 miles in 7 days, 19 hours, and 23 minutes. Along the way, Emily also raised more than $30,000 for the Brave Like Gabe Foundation, in honor of her mother, Andrea — "AndyJHa" — who passed away in January after being diagnosed with a rare uterine cancer. And a warning: This conversation may inspire you to go out and set your own big, brave, bold goals!

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Emily feels now, after running for eight days straight (3:00)
How Emily trained and prepared for this run (4:45)
On raising money for Brave Like Gabe (21:00)
Emily breaks down every day of the run (34:00)

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272. Ali & the Experts with Dr. Meggie Smith, OB-GYN & Infertility Specialist Aug 17, 2020

“Have those conversations with yourself. Figure out, ‘What is it that I want? What is my goal, essentially?’ Kind of like running. What is your goal?”

Dr. Meggie is back! This week on the Ali & the Experts series, Dr. Meggie Smith, Assistant Professor of Clinical Obstetrics and Gynecology at University of Southern California specializing in reproductive endocrinology and infertility, is here to answer listener questions about pregnancy, fertility, periods, birth control, and women’s health during the Covid-19 era.

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271. Rebecca Mehra, Professional Middle-Distance Runner Aug 12, 2020

“I got to this point where I had to tell myself that I deserve to be there and I deserve to be on the starting line, and say, ‘You are good enough, you’ve put in the work, you’ve put in the training.’ My motto was ‘Just give it a go.’”

Rebecca Mehra is a professional middle-distance runner for Oiselle’s Little Wing team, where she’s coached by Lauren Fleshman. Earlier this year, Rebecca became a household name when she Tweeted about helping an elderly couple grocery shop at the onset of the pandemic — and that story went viral. Rebecca is an incredibly talented runner, but her life off the track is as compelling as her fast 1500m times. When she’s not running, Rebecca is involved in public policy: She’s the special assistant to the mayor in Bend, OR, and is the campaign manager for two local candidates. On this episode, Rebecca talks about going pro, getting political, going viral, and growing up in a biracial family (she’s the daughter of an Indian immigrant father and a Jewish mother from Long Island) in California.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What it’s like training with Lauren Fleshman, and how and why Rebecca joined Oiselle’s Little Wing team (8:30)
On the idea of balance vs. going all-in (15:00)
What does it mean being special assistant to the mayor of Bend? (18:45)
Rebecca talks about her family, her childhood, and going viral earlier this year (24:40)
The full story behind Rebecca’s recent blog post for Oiselle, and what it was like growing up biracial (37:30)
“The electrocution incident,” and what Rebecca’s running looks like right now (52:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Jenny Simpson on Episode 268 of the Ali on the Run Show

Elle Purrier on Episode 210 of the Ali on the Run Show

Lauren Fleshman on Episode 103 of the Ali on the Run Show

“Mixed + Passing — Let’s Talk About Race,” by Rebecca Mehra for Oiselle

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270. Ali & the Experts with Jess Thomas, Therapist Aug 10, 2020

"Our feelings are truly valid. Remember that the concerns that are leading to your struggles with anxiety and depression are valid and worthy of being talked about, gaining support, and being acknowledged."

Raise your hand if you're feeling anxious! (Mine are both raised.) Then you've come to the right place. On this episode — the second in the six-part Ali & the Experts series — NYC-based therapist Jess Thomas is here to answer listener questions about anxiety, depression, perfectionism, quarantine dating, and how to handle life during a pandemic. Jess, who is part of the Viva Wellness team, also talks about being new to therapy, and debunks all kinds of common mental health myths.

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269. Ali & the Experts with Laura Parrott, Career Coach Aug 06, 2020

"Looking for technical solutions to people problems doesn’t work."

Welcome to the Ali & the Experts series! For the next six weeks, I'll be talking with six different experts who will be answering all of your questions. We're kicking things off today with a major career pep talk, courtesy of Laura Parrott. Laura, who lives in Detroit, MI, is currently the Head of People at Floyd. Before that, she spent eight years leading recruiting work at McKinsey, seven years working in people management and leadership development at Google, and, most recently, she was the lead for manager development programming at Hubspot. Laura is also a fitness instructor and is the founder of her own coaching company. On this episode, she answers questions about people challenges at work, including dealing with a difficult boss, networking during a pandemic, being laid off, and getting back into the workforce after taking time off to have children. A must-listen!

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268. Jenny Simpson Aug 05, 2020

"There’s always someone gunning for that spot. And if you’re off your game at all, they’re going to take it."

Jenny Simpson is the country's most-decorated female miler and 1500-meter runner. Case in point: She's a three-time Olympian, she won gold in the 1500 at the 2011 World Championships, she was the first U.S. woman to win an Olympic medal in the 1500 when she won bronze in Rio in 2016, and she's a two-time world silver medalist. She has won the Fifth Avenue Mile eight times, and her personal bests include a 3:57.22 1500 and a 4:16.1 road mile. On this episode, Jenny talks about how she and her husband Jason have been spending quarantine. She shares her thoughts on retirement (someday!), having a baby (someday!), and "waiting to be slow" (which may never happen!). But mostly, we talk about Truman, the dog Jenny and Jason adopted once the lockdowns started.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

All about Truman! (4:30)
What life has looked like for Jenny during the pandemic (9:55)
What do Jenny’s easy days look like? (16:00)
Jenny’s thoughts on the Olympics right now (18:30)
How do you know when to retire? (23:55)
Which runners are Jenny’s eyes on? (30:00)
Jenny’s advice for running a fast mile (39:00)
What are Jenny’s sponsor obligations right now? (45:00)
Jenny talks about cheering for her husband, Jason, at the U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials in February (51:00)

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Jenny Simpson on Episode 96 of the Ali on the Run Show

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267. Catching Up with Emily Halnon Jul 29, 2020

"There’s this possibility to live with this duality of life. You can both grieve and have a really, truly happy day. You can be really stressed and scared, and also be extraordinarily brave."

In January, the world truly lost one of the greatest lights and coolest women on the planet: Andrea Halnon, or as she's known around here, "AndyJHa." Emily Halnon was the very first guest on the Ali on the Run Show, and is one of my dear friends, and when her mom passed away after a 13-month battle with a rare uterine cancer, it was devastating. On this episode, Emily returns to the show to graciously and openly talk about her badass mom's amazing legacy, and what the grief process is like. She also talks about how she'll be bravely and boldly honoring that legacy starting this Saturday: By running 453 miles across the state of Oregon, from the California border to Washington, in an attempt to run the Fastest Known Time (FKT) on the Pacific Crest Trail. In doing so, Emily is also raising money for the Brave Like Gabe Foundation, which supports rare cancer research. CLICK HERE TO DONATE. Let's see if we can get Emily to $10K by the time she reaches Washington! This one's for you, AndyJHa. We love you.

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What we mention on this episode:

Chris Heuisler on Episode 265 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emily Halnon on Episode 1 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emily Halnon on Episode 85 of the Ali on the Run Show

Ali Feller on The Morning Shakeout

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266. On the Record with Mario Fraioli, Host of The Morning Shakeout Jul 26, 2020

"I won’t use my voice unless I can back up whatever argument I’m trying to make. But I’ve gotten increasingly more comfortable putting myself in those situations and taking a stance on something and then being able to back it up, whether it’s systemic racism, whether it’s diversity in the sport, whether it’s how we should be handling the pandemic right now as runners. We all have thoughts on those things. A lot of us are afraid to share those thoughts. Not all of us have platforms where we can share those thoughts and have it have an impact, and I am very cognizant of the fact that I do, and I want to make sure I’m using my platform for good in those ways and spurring up healthy conversation and debate."

Today, we wrap up the On the Record series with Mario Fraioli, host of The Morning Shakeout podcast and creator of The Morning Shakeout newsletter. Mario comes to podcasting with a background in journalism: He's a longtime sports writer and was the editor of Competitor magazine. On this episode, Mario talks about taking that journalistic approach when it comes to having conversations with running's top athletes, and opens up about getting comfortable taking a stance and using his voice. And he explains why sometimes, you have to let the silence do the work.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How and why Mario got into podcasting (11:00)
How Mario prepares for his interviews (18:40)
What’s on Mario’s mind right now? (29:00)
On choosing guests for The Morning Shakeout (35:50)
Mario shares his dream-come-true moments (43:00)
On speaking out (53:50)

What we mention on this episode:

Subscribe to The Morning Shakeout newsletter

Tommy Rivers Puzey GoFundMe

"Interview: Mebrahtom Keflezighi," by Mario Fraioli for mensracing.com

"Retraction Reaction," by Mario Fraioli

Erin Strout on Episode 73 of the Ali on the Run Show

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265. Catching Up with Chris Heuisler Jul 22, 2020

"That’s what I have now: I have hope."

A lot has changed for Chris Heuisler since the last time he was on the Ali on the Run Show. He turned 40! He's no longer the Global RunWestin Concierge. And he got sober. On this episode, Chris — for the first time publicly — talks about his past with alcoholism, and his journey to sobriety. (SO PROUD OF YOU, CHRIS.)

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What we mention on this episode:

Chris Heuisler, National Run Concierge for Westin Hotels

Chris Heuisler’s Most Embarrassing Running Moment!

Ali on the Run Show LIVE! Featuring Meb Keflezighi, Andrea Barber, Chris Heuisler, and Des Linden

Des Linden on Finding Mastery

Catching Up with Andrea Barber

Andrea Barber AKA Full House‘s Kimmy Gibbler

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264. On the Record with Dana Giordano, Host of More Than Running Jul 19, 2020

"What matters most to me is talking about athletes, especially female athletes, in the way that I would want someone to ask me questions. I want someone to respect me as a whole person and dig a little bit deeper and learn about who I am and what I have to give beyond the typical rote questions we hear over and over again."

Dana Giordano is a professional middle-distance runner for the B.A.A. and adidas. She's a 4:34 miler and 15:47 5K runner who ran track and cross-country at Dartmouth College and hopes to compete at the 2021 Olympic Track & Field Trials. In April, Dana added another line to her impressive resume: host of the More Than Running podcast. Dana enters the running podcast space with an inside look at the sport. On this episode, she talks about relatability on the track, inspiration on the run, and how she wants to see the industry improve. She also offers her take on how to make running more accessible, and talks about why it's so important to share women's stories and celebrate other women's successes.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How and why Dana decided to leave her corporate job to become a professional runner (4:00)
As a podcast host, what’s matters most to Dana? (13:50)
How Dana sees her role in the running industry (27:00)
On choosing guests for the show (40:00)
What Dana’s running looks like right now (56:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Chris Chavez on Episode 262 of the Ali on the Run Show

"Dana Giordano's Falmouth Run is For a Greater Cause," via Citius Mag

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263. Hawi Keflezighi, Founder & CEO of HAWI Management Jul 15, 2020

"I was nervous. But it was the kind of nervousness that really drove me to work as hard as possible, be as persistent as possible, and as thorough as possible."

Hawi Keflezighi is one of the greatest agents in running and track and field. As the founder and CEO of HAWI Management, Hawi and his team represent 30 athletes including Alexi Pappas, Nikki Hiltz, Aliphine Tuliamuk, and, of course, Hawi's brother, Meb Keflezighi. On this episode, Hawi talks about how — and why — he started his agency when he was still in law school, and explains what, exactly, agents do. He talks about being one of 11 siblings, and shares his family's story of emigrating from Eritrea to the United States. Hawi, who lives in Indianapolis with his wife and two kids, talks about what the American Dream means to him, and talks about why integrity is so important to him. There's a reason the Keflezighis are some of the best-loved people in sports, and this conversation is a perfect example of that.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Hawi became an agent (5:00)
What exactly does an agent do? (14:10)
What it means to Hawi to lead with integrity (16:40)
What’s the vibe among running agents like? (25:00)
Hawi reflects on the biggest days for his athletes (27:00)
On navigating floods of athlete media requests (41:00)
Reflecting on Aliphine Tuliamuk’s win at the 2020 Olympic Marathon Trials, and what race day looks like from an agent’s perspective (48:00)
What does the idea of the American Dream mean to Hawi? (53:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Ali on the Run Show LIVE! Featuring Meb Keflezighi, Andrea Barber, Chris Heuisler, and Des Linden

LIVE at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials with Carrie Tollefson, Meb Keflezighi, & UCAN

You Can Run a Marathon with Meb Keflezighi

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262. On the Record with Chris Chavez, Host of the Citius Mag and Runners of NYC Podcasts Jul 12, 2020

"Once you have enough of these uncomfortable conversations, you do start to pick up on new ways of going about it and asking different questions. It’s never going to end. Being uncomfortable is just part of it, and you welcome it, and do it over and over and over again to get better."

Welcome to the second episode in the four-part "On the Record" series, talking with fellow running podcasters about their work, their takes on the state of the running industry, and their roles within it. We kicked things off last week with Alysia Montaño, Molly Huddle, and Roisin McGettigan-Dumas — the hosts off Keeping Track — and this week, Chris Chavez is here! In addition to being a full-time writer for Sports Illustrated, Chris is also the host of the Citius Mag podcast, and co-host of the Runners of NYC podcast (alongside former Ali on the Run Show guest Leigh Anne Sharek). He's an important, well-respected voice in the running community, and on this episode, Chris talks about what it means to be an influencer in the running space, explains how he decides who to feature on his shows, and reflects on what the future of the running industry and community might look like.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Chris decides what to cover where (3:45)
Why podcasting? (11:30)
What does it mean to be an influencer in the running space? (16:00)
On deciding who to feature on the podcast (28:00)
Chris talks about his recent “Black Off the Track” piece for Sports Illustrated (37:00)
The future of the running industry and community (46:45)

What we mention on this episode:

The Sports Gene by David Epstein

Humans of New York

Henna Rustami on the Citius Mag podcast

“Black Off the Track," by Chris Chavez for Sports Illustrated

"Mary Cain Speaks Out Against Nike and Coach Alberto Salazar Over Emotional, Physical Abuse," by Chris Chavez for Sports Illustrated

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261. Jess Sims, Peloton Instructor Jul 08, 2020

"Stop negotiating with yourself. Be like a little kid again and jump into the pool. Don’t stick your foot in to check out the temperature. Don’t think you have to have the right bathing suit on. Jump in the pool."

It's safe to say Jess Sims is one of the most popular fitness instructors in the country. As a Peloton instructor, Jess is known for her no frills, no BS, no gimmick approach to working out. She's the real deal, and she's passionate about helping people feel their best every day. And though Jess says she never dreamed about being a fitness instructor, let alone a global superstar with a massive platform, being an educator has always come naturally to her. On this episode, Jess shares her road to Peloton fame, which started by teaching not in fitness studios, but in classrooms: Jess did Teach for America, and taught kids in Houston, Harlem, and Massachusetts. Jess also talks about the a-ha moment that led her from her role as a principal to one on the podium, and explains why, at first, she actually turned down the opportunity to teach at Peloton. Plus, she talks about growing up in Peabody, MA, in a biracial family, and offers her take on diversity in the fitness industry today.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Did Young Jess plan for a future in the fitness industry? (4:15)
How Jess became a teacher (7:45)
How Jess broke into the fitness industry (16:15)
On getting hired at Peloton, and what life looks like as a Peloton instructor (20:00)
On both “personal branding” and diversity in the fitness industry (41:00)
What it means to Jess to “take up space” (47:20)

What we mention on this episode:

Teach For America

Rebecca Kennedy

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260. On the Job with United States Air Force Colonel Shelly Mendieta Jul 06, 2020

"It doesn’t matter if I’m a man or a woman. It just matters how I do my job. That responsibility I’m given is based on how I’ve done in the past, and how well they think I’m going to do in the future."

Welcome to the final episode in the On the Job series! Today, we are wrapping things up with United States Air Force Colonel Shelly Mendieta, who is the Vice Wing Commander of the 39th Airbase Wing in Incirlik, Turkey. As the #2 in command, Col. Mendieta is responsible for more than 3,500 military, civilian, and contractor personnel on base. She's also a Weapons System Operator in the F-15E fighter plane, having logged more than 2,400 flight hours! On this episode, Col. Mendieta talks about what it's really like flying those planes — which women weren't even allowed to fly when she first enlisted in the Air Force — and what it's like serving the country and being stationed overseas. She also talks about how being a runner makes her better in the air, and shares her take on being a woman in the military.

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259. On the Record with the Hosts of Keeping Track Jul 05, 2020

"I’m not afraid to have the uncomfortable conversations. Does it mean I feel comfortable? No! And I need my allies. I need my friends to say what I’ve been saying." —Alysia Montaño

Welcome to the first episode in a new four-part series, where I'll be talking with fellow running podcast hosts about how they view the current state of the running industry and their roles within it. We're kicking things off with Alysia Montaño, Molly Huddle, and Roisin McGettigan-Dumas, the hosts of Keeping Track! As current and former professional athletes, these three incredibly accomplished women offer a unique lens on the sport. They are mothers, businesswomen, authors, and important voices in running and beyond. On this episode, we talk about how Keeping Track came to fruition, and discuss representation in the running community.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Keeping Track came to fruition (9:10)
The hopes, dreams, plans, and goals of Keeping Track (13:10)
Reflecting on Keeping Track’s “Representation in Running” episode, and the reactions to that conversation (21:15)
What does the future of the running industry look like? (41:40)
What are Molly, Ro, and Alysia’s dreams for the running industry? (51:50)

What we mention on this episode:

A Message & A Promise From Ali

Molly Huddle on Episode 66 of the Ali on the Run Show

Molly Huddle on Episode 51 of the Ali on the Run Show

Feel-Good Fitness by Alysia Montaño

"Racing for Representation" via Keeping Track

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Believe & Compete Training Journals.

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258. Feel-Good Friday with Claudia Thompson, President of Claudia Connects Jul 02, 2020

"You're the one. If you want to do something...you're the one that's going to do it."

My greatest wish for my daughter is that she never lacks confidence. Some people are born with it, but for others, cultivating confidence takes work — it's like a muscle that has to be flexed repeatedly in order to get stronger. Claudia Thompson is the president of Claudia Connects, a personal and professional training, development, and networking events company, and on this episode, she shares all her best tips and tricks for building your own confidence. She shares her own confidence journey, reflecting on being a Black woman — her mom is from Jamaica and her dad is from Panama — in predominantly white spaces. She also talks about practicing vulnerability, and explains how confidence in life will help us all on the run.

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Rachel Wyman on Episode 166 of the Ali on the Run Show

Landmark Forum

Eloquent Rage by Brittney Cooper

Claudia's Facebook post

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257. Nutrition Q&A with Starla Garcia, Registered Dietitian Jul 01, 2020

"Sustainable changes happen over months of time. And there’s nothing to be ashamed of it it takes you a long time. When you come out of it and you do the work and you’re gentle on yourself and you’re looking for progress over perfection, you’re going to be so much happier because you got to know yourself so much better."

Starla Garcia is back on the Ali on the Run Show! Starla is a registered dietitian (and Olympic Marathon Trials runner!) and is the founder of The Healthy Shine, a sports nutrition consulting practice in Houston, TX. On this episode, Starla answers listener questions about nutrition, fueling on the run, sugar addictions, protein, disordered eating, and what she wants everyone to know and understand about fad diets and buzzwords like "keto," "intermittent fasting," and "macros."

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Starla Garcia on Episode 200 of the Ali on the Run Show

Evelyn Tribole on 10% Happier with Dan Harris

SmartyPants multivitamin

Picky Bars Performance Oats

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256. On the Job with Vikki Spruill, President & CEO of New England Aquarium Jun 29, 2020

“I loved science. I had a biology teacher who was a bit of a mentor of mine in high school and I said, ‘I really think this is what I want to pursue!’ And he said, ‘There’s actually not a place for women in science.’ But I never lost sight of my passion.”

When Vikki Spruill was growing up, she loved science and, in particular, ocean life. But she was told that "women didn't have a place in science." Today, Vikki is President & CEO of the New England Aquarium in Boston, MA, so it's safe to say she found her place in science. On this episode, Vikki talks about how she got the job and what her days are like, both before and during the ongoing Covid-19 pandemic. To date, the aquarium has been closed for 16 weeks, and Vikki talks about the plans they're putting into place for when the doors do reopen. Plus, she talks about what it's really like running a huge cultural institution that's home to 20,000 animals, 200 employees, and more than 1.5 million visitors every year.

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255. Ramblings on the Run with Ali & Matt Jun 25, 2020

Welcome to this month's edition of Ramblings on the Run with Ali and Matt. This month, Matt and I catch up and share how things are going on the run, and then we talk about what we're each loving and are excited about right now. Then, we do a twist on the On the Job series, asking each other questions about our respective careers in podcasting.

What we mention on this episode:

Don't Keep Your Day Job by Cathy Heller

"Influence in the Time of Social Injustice" via Be There in Five

Aliphine Tuliamuk on Instagram

Courtney Carter on Episode 251 of the Ali on the Run Show

The Mina Kimes Show

That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

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254. Samia Akbar, Fastest U.S.-Born Black Female Marathoner Jun 25, 2020

"He made an assumption that I didn’t speak English and that’s why he didn’t speak to me. I remember feeling so hurt. Things like that happened to me all the time, being the first and only to do a lot of these distance events on the road racing circuit. And I feel like it was so hurtful. We are the epitome of the American Dream."

A few weeks ago, Peyton Thomas was on the Ali on the Run Show. We talked about Peyton being the fourth-fastest U.S.-born Black female marathoner, which prompted the question: Who's the fastest? That person is Samia Akbar. In 2006, Samia ran a 2:34 at the New York City Marathon, finishing 12th and earning the aforementioned title, which still stands. On this episode, Samia shares her running story, including how her dad instilled in her a love for running, how she went to American University on a full running scholarship, and how she spent seven years as a professional runner sponsored by Reebok. Today, Samia lives in Virginia and is a Global Marketing Manager for New Balance.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Samia explains why she lives in Virginia but works in Boston (3:40)
How Samia became a runner (9:00)
On being competitive (21:35)
What it means to “take up space,” and how Samia learned to do that (22:45)
How Samia decided to become a professional runner (33:50)
Why Samia decided to run a marathon (45:20)
On being the fastest U.S.-born Black female marathoner (52:30)

What we mention on this episode:

Peyton Thomas on Episode 244 of the Ali on the Run Show

"A Conversation with Samia Akbar" via Fast Women

"The Undeniable Power of Sport" International Women's Day panel via Hurdle podcast

TedCorbitt.com

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253. On the Job with Steph Blozy, Owner of Fleet Feet Sports West Hartford Jun 22, 2020

"We are obviously a business and we need to sell running shoes to make money, but I feel a very big obligation to be that hub of the community and be that leader and driver to connect people and to help out others."

Steph Blozy is the owner of Fleet Feet Sports in West Hartford, one of the leading run specialty stores in the country. Steph is so much more than a running store owner, though: She's truly a community builder and leader, and on this episode, she talks about how she's built such a strong, supportive community in Connecticut. (Her "special sprinkle of magic," she calls it.) Steph's road to running store ownership wasn't a straight one: She got her start as a meteorologist! Click here to hear more from Steph and about how she's adapted during the pandemic both personally and on the job.

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252. Feel-Good Friday with Katie Burke, Chief People Officer at HubSpot Jun 18, 2020

"What opportunities does this open up that didn't exist before? How can I adapt my leadership style and how I show up to adapt to that opportunity? Rather than cringing and thinking about the worst case, think about the upside and opportunity that comes with this change."

If I could hire any human on this planet to be in charge of my life and make all my decisions for me, that person would, without a single doubt, be Katie Burke. Katie is the Chief People Officer at HubSpot, and is a returning favorite guest on the Ali on the Run Show. (Check out her first two episodes here and here.) On this episode, Katie offers advice for anyone who is thinking about life going "back to normal" — or finding a new normal — and might be struggling to figure out what comes next. Katie talks about how to find your passion, and what to do when you're faced with the overwhelming sense of wanting to change your life and change the world, but you're not sure where to start. Where do work and passion intersect? How can you stay in the present? How, exactly, should you attempt some soul searching? And what do you do when the comparison trap comes into play? So much good stuff here!

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What we mention on this episode:

Untamed by Glennon Doyle

Oprah's SuperSoul Conversations with Tim Storey

"In Her Own Words: For HubSpot’s Katie Burke, it’s all about avoiding the second arrow"

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251. Courtney Carter, Oiselle Advisor for Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Jun 17, 2020

"People have to start looking at what’s going on globally, but also locally. What does your running club look like? Who do the people you run with look like? What are the books you read? Who are they by? These individual decisions and choices that we make all come together and change the landscape."

You probably know Courtney Carter by her Instagram moniker: EatPrayRunDC. Both on- and offline, Courtney's work has a major impact on the world. The 10-time marathoner is a former practicing lawyer who now leads diversity initiatives at a large law firm in Washington, DC, and she was recently named Oiselle's Advisor for Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. On this episode, Courtney talks about what that means, what her vision is for both Oiselle and the running community at large, and shares her own running story and goals.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Why it was a good day for Courtney (2:55)
What Courtney’s job entails, and her path to her current role (8:00)
All about Courtney’s role as Oiselle’s Advisor for Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (21:20)
Courtney’s wishes for U.S. distance running right now (32:25)
Courtney shares her running story (46:50)

What we mention on this episode:

"A Wish for U.S. Running From a Black Marathoner," by Courtney Carter for Women's Running

"Let's Talk About the Word Colorblind," by Courtney Carter for the Oiselle blog

Peyton Thomas on Episode 244 of the Ali on the Run Show

Aliphine Tuliamuk’s Resiliency Beanies on Etsy

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250. On the Job with Grace Kim James, Senior Vice President of Marketing at Atlantic Records Jun 15, 2020

"Music literally changes peoples’ lives. It really has the ability to uplift people, especially during today’s times. That’s a really powerful thing, and that, to me, is success. Beyond the sales and the accolades and the awards — being able to create positive change through music."

As Senior Vice President of Marketing at Atlantic Records, Grace Kim James works pretty much 24/7. On this episode, she talks about breaking into the music business, and what it's really like working for the number one label in the U.S. She talks about working closely with artists including Lizzo and Missy Elliott, and recalls that fateful day in the dining hall at NYU where it all started. There's glitz, glamour, and long, late nights on set or "at the club" — and somehow in between all that, Grace has trained for and run eight marathons.

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249. Feel-Good Friday with Jess Movold, Running Coach Jun 12, 2020

"Now more than ever is the time to learn how to be a leader for ourselves, and to learn how to handle a pivot — and thrive."

Welcome to the second episode in a four-part series called Feel-Good Fridays. (Be sure to check out the first episode, too, with therapists Jor-El Caraballo and Rachel Gersten.) These short episodes are intended to leave you feeling lighter, better, more optimistic — whether temporarily or for the rest of your life. These conversations with experts are meant to be uplifting without being fluffy or delusional. Today, running coach and 3:13 marathoner Jess Movold is here to talk about how to find meaning, purpose, and motivation on the run right now. She talks about how to connect to your "why" as a runner, and offers up some fun workouts to add to your routine. (Warning: death by burpees!)

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248. The Future of Running: The Next Step Forward "Live Show" Jun 11, 2020

I was honored when UCAN asked me to host a conversation with five running industry leaders and experts called "The Next Step Forward: The Future of Running." This conversation is about how we get back on our feet and on the run in a post-pandemic world, and you'll hear some really eye-opening insights about what's happening now in the running community, and where we go from here. Enjoy hearing from Boston Marathon race director Dave McGillivray, renowned running coach Greg McMillan, super-agent Hawi Keflezighi, professional runner Sarah Sellers, and Steph Blozy, owner of Fleet Feet West Hartford.

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247. Mary Kate Shea, John Hancock Senior Director of Endurance Marketing & 23-Time Boston Marathon Finisher Jun 10, 2020

"There is nothing we will not do for this team."

Mary Kate Shea — or "MK," as she's known to the fastest marathoners in the world — is the senior director of endurance marketing for John Hancock, the title sponsor of the Boston Marathon. Every year, it's Mary Kate's job to woo, recruit, and get the best distance runners to come run the historic Boston Marathon. On this episode — which we recorded at the beginning of May, before the 2020 race had been officially canceled — Mary Kate talks about how, exactly, she puts together the 50-person pro field every year. She talks about the first thing she said to Desiree Linden after Des won the 2018 race, explains what she says is the most stressful part of her job and her entire year, and shares lots of stories about everyone's favorite elites. But don't think Mary Kate is just watching this race from the media center: She says the fastest way from Hopkinton back to Boston is by foot, which is why, after she checks the elites in and gets them on their way, she joins the second wave of runners and runs the marathon herself. MK is a 23-time Boston Marathon finisher, she's run ultramarathons including 100-milers, and she's a mom of four. Superwoman, indeed.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What Marathon Monday is like every year for Mary Kate (8:00)
MK’s “Day in the Life” on Marathon Monday (15:40)
What makes Marathon Monday a success? (31:10)
How the recruiting process works (37:00)
Which runners are on MK’s “Boston wish list?” (44:40)
What it means to be a “technical expert” at major marathons (49:55)
How MK got her job (51:40)

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246. On the Job with Ross Altenbaugh, Executive Director of Flagstaff Shelter Services Jun 09, 2020

"I grew up riding around in a cargo van filled with bologna sandwiches and handing them out under bridges and in parks."

Ross Altenbaugh is the executive director at Flagstaff Shelter Services, the largest emergency shelter in Northern Arizona. Since 2014, Flagstaff Shelter Services has permanently housed more than 500 individuals and families, which Ross says is the goal — to find permanent housing for those who need it most. Ross is a remarkable human, an in addition to the important work she does at the shelter, she's also a mom to two boys and, of course, is a runner. On this episode, she talks about how her own childhood — and her mom's — led her to this line of work, and talks about the emotional component of working in shelter services.

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245. Feel-Good Friday with Rachel Gersten & Jor-El Caraballo, Licensed Therapists & Co-Founders of Viva Wellness Jun 05, 2020

"It's not so much what you're doing — it's why are you doing it?"

Welcome to the first episode in a four-part series called Feel-Good Fridays. These short episodes are intended to leave you feeling lighter, better, more optimistic — whether temporarily or for the rest of your life. These conversations with experts are meant to be uplifting without being fluffy or delusional. We're kicking things off with Rachel Gersten and Jor-El Caraballo, licensed therapists and co-founders of Viva Wellness, a private therapy practice in New York City. In just 20 minutes, Rachel and Jor-El will help us all breathe a little easier. They bust some common self-care myths, and offer tangible advice on how we can all take better care of ourselves right now. (And, if nothing else, "eat some pie.")

A great, and I think very relevant quote to take away from this episode: "This isn't the Feelings Olympics. Your feelings are valid. They're real. They mean something to you. Perspective is important, but don't let that stop you from also experiencing whatever you're feeling."

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244. Peyton Thomas, 2:42 Marathoner Jun 04, 2020

"I had all these supporters that were from the Black running community that were there to cheer me on because I was their representation in the race. That’s really big and pretty heavy, I think. And not heavy in a bad way. But it weighs on my mind a lot, especially now."

At just 24 years old — and with only two marathons under her belt so far — Peyton Thomas is already making a name for herself on the long-distance running scene. After running track and cross-country in high school and college, Peyton graduated from Baylor University and decided to run a marathon (with a 40-mile ultramarathon thrown in the mix). She made her 26.2-mile debut at the 2019 California International Marathon (CIM) and ran a 2:42.57, qualifying for the Olympic Trials on her first try. She went on to run the Trials in February in Atlanta, where she ran a three-second personal best time on a day that included big hills, wild wind, and a handful of calf cramp-induced walk breaks. (Imagine: 2:42.54 on a tough day!) Peyton was the only American-born Black female athlete who ran at the Trials, in a sea of more than 450 women. On this episode, she talks about what that was like, and talks about how her running journey has evolved from the days when she would black out while racing in high school and college. Peyton is a PhD candidate and teaching assistant at the University of North Carolina Wilmington, studying biology and marine biology.

Quick note! Around 40 minutes into the conversation, you may notice some beeping. We couldn't help the fact that a truck parked outside Peyton's home for a while — and we hope you aren't too bothered by it! Thanks for understanding!

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Peyton got her start on the run (4:45)
Peyton talks about blacking out while racing in high school and college (15:45)
Why Peyton decided to train for a marathon and try to run an Olympic Trials qualifying time (20:20)
Peyton reflects on running the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials (35:40)
On diversity and inclusion at the Trials (47:30)

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243. On the Job with Amy Diallo, Covid-19 Researcher Jun 01, 2020

"We just wish that science was faster sometimes!"

Amy Diallo always knew she wanted to be a scientist. Growing up in France, her plan was always to move to the United States and study infectious diseases. And perhaps never has Amy's career as a postdoctoral researcher at University of California, San Francisco, been more relevant than today, as she's spending long hours in the lab doing Covid-19 research. Every day, Amy and her team are hard at work studying proteins to eventually develop medication that will treat the novel coronavirus. On this episode, she talks about why she wanted to work in infectious diseases, what it's like being an essential worker right now, and what it's really like being a scientist in the cutthroat biochemistry lab world. She talks about the pressure to work fast, what she wants everyone to know about where we're at right now with this pandemic, and how running fits into her busy life.

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242. Shalane Flanagan May 27, 2020

"If that’s my legacy, that’s a good one."

Shalane Flanagan has many titles: former professional runner, four-time Olympian, Olympic silver medalist, Bowerman Track Club coach, 2017 New York City Marathon champion, American record holder, two-time New York Times best-selling author, race broadcaster — and, her newest title, mom. Last month, Shalane and her husband, Steven Edwards, became parents to their son, Jack Dean Edwards, and on this episode, Shalane talks candidly about new motherhood. She talks about what it was like being at the top of her professional game and constantly fielding questions about when she planned to have children, and explains why she and Steven chose to adopt, and what that process looked like for them. She talks about her decision to retire from professional running in 2019, about why coaching was her next dream, and her third cookbook with co-author Elyse Kopecky, and about the pressure women often feel to "do it all."

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What’s making Shalane happy right now? (3:15)
What new motherhood looks like so far (5:10)
Shalane and Steven’s road to adoption (14:00)
On fielding questions about having children (20:00)
On the decision to retire from professional running in 2019 (27:00)
All about Coach Shalane (36:15)
How Shalane got into race broadcasting (44:20)
All about Rise & Run, Shalane and Elyse Kopecky’s third cookbook, coming in 2021 (49:20)
Reflecting on “The Shalane Effect” and Shalane’s legacy (54:30)
Shalane answers listener questions (59:30)

What we mention on this episode:

Choice Adoptions

Shalane Flanagan on The Growth Equation podcast

"How the Shalane Effect Works," by Lindsay Crouse for The New York Times

Run Fast. Eat Slow.

Run Fast. Cook Fast. Eat Slow.

Untamed by Glennon Doyle

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241. On the Job with JoMarie Flores, Funeral Director May 26, 2020

"I’m 100 percent emotionally involved with the families I serve."

Welcome to Season 2 of the On the Job series on the Ali on the Run Show! This season, we're kicking things off with JoMarie Flores, a funeral director in Houston, TX. But don't worry: This episode isn't all death, doom, and gloom. JoMarie is so passionate about her work, and you'll quickly see why families love and appreciate her so much. On this episode, JoMarie talks about the education required to become an embalmer and funeral director, and addresses the common misperceptions about her line of work. She opens up about the emotional component of the work, shares why it's important to find laughter during hard times, and offers advice for people who are uncomfortable with death and addressing our own mortality. When she's not on the job as a "last responder," JoMarie is a marathoner, triathlete, and mom to a five-year-old boy.

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240. Lee Glandorf, Tracksmith Head of Communications May 21, 2020

"The best thing that can happen to you is to have all your plans get blown up because then you learn how you react to that."

Last week, Tracksmith announced it was adding two members to its team: professional athletes Mary Cain and Nick Willis. But Nick and Mary aren't just figureheads for the brand or sponsored athletes. They're full-time, salaried employees. On this episode, Lee Glandorf, head of communications at Tracksmith, shares the behind-the-scenes making of those deals, and talks about what hiring Nick and Mary means for both them and for the brand. She also explains why now — in the midst of a global pandemic — was the right time to make these moves. Lee is a former Yale University rower turned runner, who also shares her running story and talks about how, as someone who thrives on lists and plans, she's adjusting to life right now and finding ways to connect with the community.

What you’ll get on this episode:

How Lee is handling this time as a self-proclaimed “control freak” (6:00)
How Tracksmith pivoted strategies and plans at the onset of the Covid-19 pandemic (12:00)
All about Tracksmith’s decision to hire professional runners Mary Cain and Nick Willis earlier this month (16:30)
How Lee fell in love with running (33:00)
How Lee got her job at Tracksmith (42:50)

What we mention on this episode:

On the Job with Taylor Ritzel, Content Acquisition at Netflix

Run Free Grand Prix

"Mary Cain Announces New Role at Tracksmith," via Women’s Running

"To Run My Best Marathon at Age 44, I Had to Outrun My Past," via Wired

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239. Dinée Dorame, Citizen of the Navajo Nation May 20, 2020

"I was at the cross-section of a couple different identities that people didn’t quite understand."

Dinée Dorame is a citizen of the Navajo Nation, Water's Edge clan. She's a lifelong runner who grew up in Albuquerque, NM, moved to the east coast to attend and later work in admissions at Yale University, and has since returned to Albuquerque, where she is the Associate Director of College Horizons. On this episode, Dinée talks passionately about the role of running in Native culture, and the role her culture plays in her life on and off the run. She talks about setbacks she's experienced related to Accessory Navicular Syndrome, and how she has dealt with chronic pain, and offers advice for how and why runners can and should better connect with the land around them.

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Was Dinée’s plan always to return home to New Mexico after attending Yale? (4:30)
What it was like growing up as a Native girl in Albuquerque, NM (12:00)
Why Dinée says running “is like medicine” for many indigenous people (24:30)
What Dinée says are some of the most common misperceptions of Native people today (41:15)

What we mention on this episode:

Support Dinée and Girls Inc. of New York City

Dinée in Runner’s World

College Horizons

Carolyn Su on Episode 140 of the Ali on the Run Show

Native Appropriations blog

@Native_Women_Running on Instagram

Jordan @nativein_la on Instagram

Running: A Love Story, by Jen A. Miller

Oofos sandals

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238. Sasha Wolff, Founder of Still I Run May 14, 2020

"I didn’t want people to think fun, happy Sasha really has depression and anxiety."

Sasha Wolff is the founder of Still I Run, a non-profit organization and online community for runners, whose mission is to raise awareness around mental health. On this episode — in honor of Mental Health Awareness Month — Sasha, a mom of two who lives in Michigan, talks openly about her own experiences with depression and anxiety. She opens up about her decision to admit herself to an inpatient facility for treatment, talks about what that was like, and explains what's in her "mental health care kit." She also shares the story of how she found running, and why she's so passionate about running for her own mental health.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What Mental Health Awareness Month means to Sasha (4:30)
Sasha shares her mental health story (7:40)
On the decision to check into a mental health hospital (14:30)
What’s in Sasha’s “Mental Health Care Kit?” (21:00)
How running has played a role in Sasha’s mental health journey (30:20)

What we mention on this episode:

Andrea Barber on Episode 209 of the Ali on the Run Show

Andrea Barber on Episode 45 of the Ali on the Run Show

Full Circle: From Hollywood to Real Life and Back Again, by Andrea Barber

Koala Clip

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237. A Message & A Promise From Ali May 11, 2020

"With this platform comes a responsibility."

This episode is a message from me to every listener of the Ali on the Run Show. It's a promise to do better. To showcase more voices on the show and during live events. To listen more. To do the work.

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236. Izzy Seidel, Tracksmith Marketing & Communications Associate May 07, 2020

"I always knew Molly was going to qualify for the Olympics at some point. It was just a matter of when."

During the last weekend in February, everyone was talking about one race: the U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials. But there was another race that same day, in that same city: Take the Bridge, which Izzy Seidel won. And if that last name sounds familiar — particularly in the context of having a great race in Atlanta on February 29 — that's because Izzy's sister is Molly Seidel, who finished second at the U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials that same day, solidifying her spot on the U.S. Olympic Team. On this episode, Izzy recaps that day in Atlanta from her perspective. What is it like when your sister (and roommate!) runs the Trials and lands a spot on the U.S. team? Izzy, who lives in Boston and works for Tracksmith, talks about watching the race, going on to win Take the Bridge, and then taking selfies with adoring fans — who thought she was Molly!

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What’s making Izzy happy right now, and what her running looks like these days (3:10)
Recapping the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials from Izzy’s perspective (9:30)
On going on to run — and win — Take the Bridge later that night (33:30)
What Izzy and Molly’s relationship was like growing up (38:10)
All about Izzy’s job at Tracksmith (43:50)

What we mention on this episode:

Jay Holder on Episode 231 of the Ali on the Run Show

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235. On the Job with Kaitie Brown, Walt Disney World Talent Casting Coordinator May 04, 2020

"I just remember looking down and seeing that five year old little girl, dressed in her favorite princess dress, looking up at me with the biggest smile on her face — and I just see myself in her. It is so magical."

Kaitie Brown knew from a young age that her dream was to one day perform at Walt Disney World — and that's exactly what she went on to do. After three years and 12 auditions, Kaitie was hired as a cast member, where she would perform several times a day, dancing up and down Main Street USA at the Magic Kingdom. Today, Kaitie is one of Disney World's talent casting coordinators, and on this episode, she talks about what it takes to get hired, why auditions are — she swears — actually really fun, and what it's really like to dance at Disney. Plus, as a four-time marathoner, she talks about how being a runner has made her a better performer.

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234. Emily Sisson Recaps the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials Apr 30, 2020

"I think after a certain point you just realize you’re not running to impress other people."

Emily Sisson was one of the top-seeded women competing at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials. She's a 2:23 marathoner and professional runner for New Balance, and she went into the Trials after a huge year on the run in 2019. Emily made her marathon debut at the 2019 London Marathon, where she finished sixth and became the seventh-fastest woman ever at the marathon distance. It was also the second fastest debut by an American woman. Emily then went on to compete in the 10,000 meters at USATF Nationals, where she earned a spot to represent the U.S. at Worlds in Doha. Emily's race in Atlanta didn't quite go as she'd hoped, and she ended up pulling out of the race with four miles to go. On this episode, she talks about what went down during the race, whether being a top pick added pressure to her day, and what it was like stepping off the course. She also talks about the emotional aftermath from the race — and getting a second dog!

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What you’ll get on this episode:

On the decision to get a second dog! (3:10)
How Emily’s life has changed over the past six weeks (11:10)
Recapping the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials (16:30)
What it was like dropping out of the Trials (35:30)
On the emotional recovery from the race (40:30)
Emily’s advice for dealing with disappointment (47:30)

What we mention on this episode:

Emily Sisson on Episode 169 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emma Coburn on Episode 224 of the Ali on the Run Show

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233. On the Job with Amanda LaVergne, Broadway Performer Apr 27, 2020

"I’ve trained for Boston... I’ve done a 20-miler before doing two shows of A Chorus Line, which is two hours of standing on your feet and kicking. I’ve done 20-milers before a five-show day at Radio City."

Amanda LaVergne is a Broadway actress, singer, and dancer. She has performed in Annie and Grease, among many others, and spent a decade performing as Mrs. Claus in the Radio City Christmas Spectacular. Offstage, Amanda is a 3:07 marathoner, a 1:24 half marathoner, and a running coach. So how do you train for the Boston Marathon while also doing five shows a day at Radio City? How do you run the New York City Marathon fast enough to make it to the theater before a 3 PM curtain? On this episode, Amanda talks about the realities of making it on Broadway and beyond, having thick skin, what auditions are really like, and what it feels like to make your Broadway debut.

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232. Ramblings on the Run with Ali & Matt Apr 24, 2020

Welcome to the April edition of Ramblings on the Run with Ali & Matt. Every month, Matt Chittim — host of the Rambling Runner podcast and the Road to the Olympic Trials show — and I will come together to talk about running industry news, our own running, and things we’re loving right now, and to answer listener questions about running and podcasting. But this time around, instead of listener Q&A, we created the Quarantine Decathlon. Give it a try — and let us know how you fare! We recorded this episode on Marathon Monday — the should-be day for the Boston Marathon — and had fun talking about how the running community celebrated running on a day that wasn't what anyone had planned for.

What we mention on this episode:

Peloton app

Bota Box wine

Sarah Cummings on Episode 215 of the Ali on the Run Show

Sarah Cummings on Episode 112 of the Ali on the Run Show

"The Third Monday in April," by Erin Strout for Women's Running

"To Run My Best Marathon at Age 44, I Had to Outrun My Past," by Nicholas Thompson for Wired

McKirdy Mile Race Series

Laura Thweatt on Episode 228 of the Ali on the Run Show

Nell Rojas on Episode 229 of the Ali on the Run Show

Try the Quarantine Decathlon!

Stair Jump
House Races
Emergency Shuttle Run
Tower Ball
Hungry or Bored?
Kid Toy Push-Ups
The Quiet & Alone Hurdles
Letter PRs
The Coffee to Wine Relay
"Foam rolling?"

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231. Jay Holder, Director of Marketing & Communications at Atlanta Track Club Apr 22, 2020

“Find a way to get people hooked on running. That’s what we need.”

Jay Holder just might love running — the sport itself, plus every single member of the running community — more than any guy I know. Jay is the Director of Marketing & Communications at Atlanta Track Club, which means this week, we're getting a behind-the-scenes look at what it took to host the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials! Jay talks about the bidding process leading up to the Trials, and shares what, exactly, Atlanta did to show USA Track & Field that they were worthy of hosting one of the greatest weekends in American distance racing. (It involved a 90-page proposal and plan!) Jay, a dad of two, shares stories from the course — which he ran several dozen times before race weekend — and explains what he says is "the best part of the job." We look back reminiscing about the Trials weekend, and look forward, with some trepidation: The Atlanta Track Club also hosts the Peachtree Road Race, which is the largest 10K in the world that takes place every year on the Fourth of July.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

A bit of background on Jay’s professional career, and what brought him to Atlanta Track Club (6:55)
The bidding process behind the Olympic Trials, and how Atlanta won the hosting gig (10:00)
What Jay says is the best part of his job (21:50)
What race weekend looked like for Jay (28:50)
What does the current state of the world mean for the 2020 Peachtree Road Race?

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230. On the Job with Christine Mousa, Family Specialist in the Division of Child Protection and Permanency Apr 20, 2020

"I can sincerely say that when I leave work and go home, my heart feels really full — but sometimes it feels defeated... There's a lot of emotion at stake. It's hard."

Christine Mousa is a family specialist in New Jersey's Division of Child Protection and Permanency. Her job is to find safe and loving homes for children. It's important, emotional work, and on this episode, Christine talks about what the job entails, whether she ever feels afraid on the job, and what being "out in the field" means.

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229. Nell Rojas, 2:28 Marathoner & 9th-Place Olympic Trials Finisher Apr 16, 2020

"You have to believe in yourself. And you can say it a million times, but before this, I didn’t actually believe I could run with these girls. And now I absolutely know that I can run with these girls, and I know that I can be competitive."

Nell Rojas finished ninth at the U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials in February. And that in its own is impressive — but it's especially impressive when you consider that it was only Nell's third ever marathon. Nell is a triathlete and obstacle course racer turned marathoner, and on this episode, she talks about running the Olympic A standard at her first marathon, winning her second marathon (a 2:28 at Grandma's Marathon in 2019), and running the Trials as her third marathon. She talks about her recovery from the Trials and what's next, and talks about the time she beat Des Linden at the Falmouth Road Race — and then immediately asked for her autograph. Plus: What Nell is like as a coach, why she decided to rescue a dog right before the Trials, and the advice she has for anyone who's ever been told they "don't look like a runner."

What you’ll get on this episode:

Nell breaks down her post-Trials recovery, and explains what her training looks like right now (3:50)
Nell recaps her race at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials (6:20)
Nell’s road to becoming a marathoner (24:50)
On winning Boulder Bolder 40 years after her dad won the race, and winning Grandma’s Marathon in 2019 (32:00)
What is Nell like as a coach? (36:00)
What will Nell’s training look like between now and the fall? (37:00)

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228. Laura Thweatt, 2:25 Marathoner & 5th-Place Olympic Trials Finisher Apr 15, 2020

"I had to keep believing that my Olympic dream was still alive until the race was over."

Laura Thweatt ran a fast, fierce, gutsy race at the U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials in Atlanta — a hard effort that earned her a fifth-place finish. But fifth place at the Trials is a tough spot: When the first three finishers make the team and the fourth-place finisher is the alternate, fifth place is so close, but so far from being on the Olympic team. On this episode, Laura — a 2:25 marathoner who runs for Saucony and is coached by Joe Bosshard — recaps her race at the Trials, offers advice for runners dealing with injuries or setbacks, and talks about how the Covid-19 crisis has affected her training so far and her year ahead.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Laura’s doing during these “weird times” (3:45)
The story behind that Saucony #dontrushchallenge video (7:20)
What Laura’s days look like right now (14:40)
How Laura got so strong leading up to the Trials (17:40)
Recapping the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials (24:05)
What Laura’s post-Trials meeting with her sports psychologist was like (43:00)
Laura’s advice for dealing with injuries or setbacks (51:00)
Did Laura always plan to be a professional runner? (53:30)

What we mention on this episode:

Saucony’s #dontrushchallenge video

The "original" runner #dontrushchallenge video

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227. On the Job with Julia Harrington, Corporate Pilot Apr 13, 2020

"Fear is not something you experience in an airplane. That’s your comfort zone."

For many people, flying in an airplane is an anxiety-inducing adventure. But not for Julia Harrington. Julia is a corporate pilot and captain on two business jets, and on this On the Job episode, she talks about her adventures in the skies. Julia reminisces about her childhood dreams of becoming a pilot, and talks about the education required to get a pilot's license. She talks about her first flight, whether she's ever scared in the air, and what it's like being a badass woman in a very male-dominated industry. (Plus, she offers reassuring advice for all the anxious fliers out there!)

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226. Caitlyn Tateishi, 2:43 Marathoner Apr 08, 2020

"Without races on the schedule, you’re figuring out why you run in the first place. I think this is a really good reminder that we do it because we love it — not because we’re constantly chasing a goal or trying to prove something."

Caitlyn Tateishi has run — long, and fast — all over the world. On this episode, the 2:43 marathoner talks about growing up in Hawaii and discovering life on the run, and going on to run an unofficial ultramarathon during her time in the Peace Corps in Africa. Caitlyn explains why she took a long break from running, and talks about rediscovering her passion for the sport. Plus, she breaks down how, exactly, she shaved 50 minutes off her marathon time, going from wanting to qualify for the Boston Marathon to running at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials earlier this year. It's a powerful, relatable conversation about identifying as a runner, dealing with failure, and getting to that "I belong" moment.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Caitlyn is feeling physically and emotionally since running the Trials (3:00)
Recapping Caitlyn’s race in Atlanta (7:00)
How Caitlyn found running (11:00)
Why Caitlyn joined the Peace Corps, and what it was like living and running in tK (23:00)
Why Caitlyn decided to start training for marathons — and her road to an OTQ (29:15)

What we mention on this episode:

“I thought my best running days were over”: How Olympic Trials Qualifier Caitlyn Tateishi Found Her Way Back to Running via Women's Running

Born to Run

Miles to the Trials blog

First Ladies of Running

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225. On the Job with Taylor Ritzel, Content Acquisition at Netflix Apr 06, 2020

"I was just like, ‘Oh my god, I’m in Hollywood! This was meant to be!'"

Taylor Ritzel has quite the resumé: She was a collegiate rower at Yale University who went on to win Olympic gold in rowing at the 2012 games. Today, though, Taylor has traded her oars for the Hollywood life. She works at Netflix, in nonfiction series content acquisition. On this episode, she talks about what, exactly, that means, and what it's like working on shows including Cheer, Queer Eye, and Tidying Up with Marie Kondo.

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224. Catching Up with Emma Coburn Apr 01, 2020

"There’s nothing I can do, so I might as well not wallow about it, and I might as well just find something else to make me happy for the moment."

Emma Coburn is a two-time Olympian, eight-time U.S. steeplechase champion, world champion, and world silver medalist. On this episode, Emma — who runs for New Balance and is Vice President of the Athletics Association — talks about how the COVID-19 pandemic has affected her training and her livelihood. She's honest about the financial hit professional athletes will take during this time, and shares her take on the postponement of the 2020 Olympic Games.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Emma is finding happiness right now (3:40)
All about Emma’s nightly Instagram Lives (7:15)
What Emma’s training has been like, both before and since hearing about the Olympics being postponed (10:45)
How COVID-19 has directly affected Emma’s career and life at home (25:25)
How Emma is maintaining a positive attitude during these times (37:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Emma Coburn on Episode 60 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emma Coburn on Episode 96 of the Ali on the Run Show

Aisha Praught & Will Leer on Episode 204 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emma’s Resistance Bands

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223. On the Job with Kelly McKnight, Orthopedic Surgery Resident Mar 31, 2020

"I run on pure stress and adrenaline."

Kelly McKnight is an orthopedic surgery resident — a real-life Callie Torres from Grey's Anatomy! — in Sioux Falls, SD. On this episode, the second in the On the Job series, Kelly talks about what her job entails, what the schooling is like, how she survives grueling 80-hour weeks on her feet, and how running fits in. She also talks about why only six percent of orthopedic surgeons are women — and why she's passionate about bringing that number way up.

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222. Kaitlin Goodman Recaps the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials Mar 26, 2020

"I know I wasn’t a favorite, but I felt that if a door opened, I was fully ready to sprint through it."

When Kaitlin Goodman, a 2:32 marathoner who runs for adidas and the Boston Athletic Association, arrived at the start line of the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials, she felt fit, strong, and ready to race. Kaitlin was ranked 29th in the field of more than 500 women, and she was in Atlanta to be at the front of the race. But just half a mile into the 26.2-mile run, Kaitlin fell, and in an instant, her dreams of finishing at the top of the field were shaken. On this episode, Kaitlin vividly recounts what the day was like for her. (Warning: This one is a tear-jerker.) At the end of the episode, Kaitlin — who holds a master's in public health from Brown University and is a consultant in the field — shares what she wishes everyone understood about the current state of the world and the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Kaitlin is feeling post-Trials (5:55)
Kaitlin recaps her race at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials (12:00)
On recovering from the race (40:35)
Kaitlin talks about COVID-19 from the perspective of a public health professional (46:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Kaitlin Goodman on Episode 160 of the Ali on the Run Show

LIVE at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials with Sarah Cummings, Kaitlin Goodman, Amanda Nurse, Ladia Albertson-Junkans, & Jenny Donnelly

What It Was Like Being in Atlanta for the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials

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221. On the Job with Rachel Dewan, Archaeologist Mar 23, 2020

"It’s really a lesson in humans and human activity."

Welcome to the On the Job series on the Ali on the Run Show! Every Tuesday for the next seven weeks, we'll meet cool women with interesting, fascinating, unique, badass jobs. They'll talk about how they got into their respective fields, what their jobs entail, why their work matters, and why they've pursued their passions. Plus, they're all runners, so they'll talk about how running fits into their busy lives. First up: Rachel Dewan. Rachel is an archaeologist who spends her summers in Greece, digging for artifacts and studying ancient cultures from 4,000 years ago. (The Minoan culture, specifically.) It's her job to dig up material culture and try to make sense of it all. On this episode, she talks about what, exactly, it means to be an archaeologist (she's not Ross from Friends!), what it's like on a dig, and what being on a dig actually means.

Inspired? Me, too! This November, Rachel will be leading a trip combining both her passions: running and archaeology. This 8-day running tour of Greece (led by Rachel and a fellow archaeologist and art historian) will end with the Athens Marathon. Between runs, you'll explore historic places and great food. Check it out here!

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220. Andrea Toppin Recaps Her Race at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials Mar 22, 2020

"I’m not going to throw a pity party. I’m celebrating this day. I was a part of history."

It's so hard to believe it’s been nearly a month since we were all in Atlanta for the U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials — truly the good old days! And I want to keep remembering and celebrating those days. Andrea Toppin is a chiropractic student and elite marathoner for Oiselle who trains with the Minnesota Distance Elite — and she didn’t have the race of her dreams that day in Atlanta. On this episode, Andrea shares her story, opens up about the tough decision to DNF at the Trials, and talks about her outlook moving forward. (Spoiler: One race does not define you as a runner or as a human!)

What you’ll get on this episode:

Andrea recaps her race at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials (7:10)
What’s next for Andrea? (39:30)

What we mention on this episode:

Anita Perez on Episode 218 of the Ali on the Run Show

LIVE at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials with Carrie Tollefson, Meb Keflezighi, & UCAN

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219. Jacqueline Alnes, Creator of Running-Inspired Tiny Art Mar 18, 2020

“I viewed myself as a runner my whole life. That was my main identity. And so when I started considering the possibility that that might be taken away from me, I just felt this grief I didn’t even know how to handle yet, of who are you if you’re not a runner?”

Even if you don't know Dr. Jacqueline Alnes by the name, you definitely know her work. She's the woman behind the "tiny art" paintings you've seen all over Instagram featuring inspiring women from within the running community. (You can buy her prints on Etsy here!) Jacqueline is a creative writing professor in Pennsylvania, and on this episode, she opens up about the neurological disorder that left her passing out on the run as a Division-I athlete in college — and talks about how she came back and rediscovered her love for running.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Why Jacqueline is training to run the 2020 TCS New York City Marathon in honor of the Brave Like Gabe Foundation (5:10)
Jacqueline explains the neurological disorder she’s been experiencing since college (8:20)
What Jacqueline’s health and running are like today (26:35)
The story behind Jacqueline’s “tiny art” on Instagram (31:00)
The app that helped Jacqueline get over a bad breakup (41:40)

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218. Anita Perez, 2:39 Marathoner, Single Mom, & Special Education Teacher Mar 13, 2020

"It’s almost like I was running away from what had happened."

Anita Perez just might be one of the most inspiring, hardworking, dedicated women you'll ever meet. She's a 2:39 marathoner (who also runs a 1:17 half marathon), a single mom to two kids, and a middle school special education teacher. She's kind and caring, and she works her butt off in every facet of her life (including waking up at 3 AM to get her workouts in). On this episode, she talks about what it was like running at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials last month, compares that to her experience running the 2016 Trials, and opens up about the years in between. She talks about her mom passing away after a short and devastating bout with cancer, and opens up about how that affected her running. It's a powerful, poignant episode.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Anita recaps her race at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials (3:40)
Reflecting on running through grief (14:45)
On the goal to run an Olympic Trials qualifying time (25:00)
What Anita’s typical day looks like (37:30)
Why Anita loves her work as a middle school special education teacher (43:45)

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LIVE at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials with Carrie Tollefson, Meb Keflezighi, & UCAN

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217. What It Was Like Being in Atlanta for the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials Mar 11, 2020

"I wasn't there as a runner. I wasn't there as a sister, a mother...I was there as a fan of the sport, and as a supporter of so many of these women. And in a very different way I found my own 'I belong,' and it was realizing I am bringing something to the running community."

It's a solo episode! On this episode, I reflect on my experience traveling to Atlanta to watch the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials. (To read more about the weekend, check out this post.)

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Westin Peachtree Plaza

Atlanta Track Club

LIVE at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials with Sarah Cummings, Kaitlin Goodman, Amanda Nurse, Ladia Albertson-Junkans, & Jenny Donnelly

LIVE at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials with Carrie Tollefson, Meb Keflezighi, & UCAN

Veronica Jackson & Alex Bernardi, Olympic Trials Qualifiers

Veronica Jackson & Alex Bernardi Recap the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials

Jenny & Judi Donnelly BONUS EPISODE!

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"Why Are American Women Running Faster Than Ever?" via The New York Times

Starla Garcia, Olympic Trials Qualifier & Registered Dietitian

Carly Gill, Olympic Trials Qualifier

Jen Bigham AKA Local Elite

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216. LIVE on International Women's Day Mar 11, 2020

In honor of International Women's Day, I sat down with an all-star panel of smart, inspiring women — Abby Bales, Rozalynn Frazier, Kelly Hogan, and Henna Rustami — to talk about everything from periods, nutrition, and diversity in running to the whys behind why we started running and why we keep running.

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215. LIVE at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials with Sarah Cummings, Kaitlin Goodman, Amanda Nurse, Ladia Albertson-Junkans, & Jenny Donnelly Mar 05, 2020

"I am here to try and find the best version of myself." —Sarah Cummings

"I am here because running makes me feel the most alive." —Kaitlin Goodman

"I’m here because I found running later in life, and it felt like it fed my soul." —Amanda Nurse

"My why is Gabe Grunewald." —Ladia Albertson-Junkans

"I’m here because running feels like home. And because despite years of subpar performances and giving up on myself, I had people who didn’t, and I’m very grateful for that." —Jenny Donnelly

It was a tremendous honor and privilege to host a live show at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials Expo in Atlanta, GA, with five former Ali on the Run Show guests and Trials runners: Sarah Cummings, Kaitlin Goodman, Amanda Nurse, Ladia Albertson-Junkans, and Jenny Donnelly. This was an inspiring, uplifting, at times emotional conversation about goals, the running community, choices and sacrifices, and each woman's "why."

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214. Veronica Jackson & Alex Bernardi Recap the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials Mar 05, 2020

"This showed me I can make more dreams — because apparently they come true!" —Veronica Jackson

Last week, we heard from U.S. Olympic Trials Marathon qualifiers, friends, and former training partners Veronica Jackson and Alex Bernardi. This week, they're back to recap their respective races in Atlanta. (Spoiler: Veronica finished 63rd and Alex ran a personal best!)

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Veronica and Alex were feeling three days after running the Trials (2:30)
Breaking down the early miles of the race (7:25)
On the crowds and the spectators (13:45)
Alex and Veronica talk about what it was like seeing each other during the race (20:10)
Veronica talks about experiencing pre-race anxiety the day before the race (24:00)
What it was really like being in Atlanta (32:25)

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Veronica on Alex on Episode 211 of the Ali on the Run Show

Atlanta Track Club

Kaitlin Goodman on Episode 160 of the Ali on the Run Show

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213. LIVE at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials with Carrie Tollefson, Meb Keflezighi, & UCAN Mar 04, 2020

This is the first of several post-U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials episodes coming your way this week. It was such an honor to co-host a live show after the race alongside Carrie Tollefson and Meb Keflezighi — in front of a 400-person audience! After an inspiring opening speech by UCAN President and CEO Shoba Murali and a few remarks from Meb, we recapped the race with Carrie (who was the official race announcer) and Meb (the official race starter). Then, we welcomed seven UCAN athletes — Sarah Sellers, Taylor Ward, Dawn Grunnagle, Tyler Pennel, Andrea Toppin, Anita Perez, and Jocelyn Todd — who shared their stories from the day. Some had breakthrough races (a PR for Sarah Sellers!), while others had challenging days on the course. All of their stories were honest, uplifting, and relatable, and I'm so grateful for everything they shared.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Opening remarks from Shoba Murali, UCAN President and CEO (3:40)
A few words from Meb Keflezighi (9:00)
The live show begins! Carrie and Meb recap the race from their perspectives (12:30)
Taylor Ward, Sarah Sellers, and Dawn Grunnagle recap their races at the U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials (30:45)
Tyler Pennel joins the conversation to talk about his race, where he finished 11th overall (43:20)
Andrea Toppin, Anita Perez, and Jocelyn Todd share their races stories from the day (58:30)

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212. Ramblings on the Run with Ali & Matt Feb 27, 2020

Welcome to the second edition of a new monthly series on the Ali on the Run Show: Ramblings on the Run with Ali & Matt. Every month, Matt Chittim — host of the Rambling Runner podcast and the Road to the Olympic Trials show — and I will come together to talk about running industry news, our own running, and things we’re loving right now, and to answer listener questions about running and podcasting. It’s something new we’re trying, so let us know what you think and what you want more (or less!) of. On this episode, it's all about Trials talk. We share our excitement for the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials, talk about our predictions about what might happen while admitting none of us really have any idea, and answer listener questions about podcasting.

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Superhero Muffins

Publix Atlanta 5K

Peter Bromka on Road to the Olympic Trials

Lou Serafini on Road to the Olympic Trials

Sarah Ibbetson @runningbcba on Instagram (2:45.01 series)

"In Celebrating Local Olympic Hopefuls, We Lift Up Our Communities" by Erin Strout for Women's Running

Jay Holder on The CITIUS MAG Podcast

Jay Holder on C Tolle Run

Kaitlin Gregg Goodman on Episode 160 of the Ali on the Run Show

Sara Hall on Episode 144 of the Ali on the Run Show

Steph Bruce on Episode 206 of the Ali on the Run Show

Steph Bruce on Episode 104 of the Ali on the Run Show

Alison Wade and Erin Strout on Road to the Olympic Trials

Elle Purrier on Episode 210 of the Ali on the Run Show

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211. Veronica Jackson & Alex Bernardi, Olympic Trials Qualifiers Feb 26, 2020

"The only reason this was my goal is because it was her goal. I only have this dream because she was crazy enough to dream it first." —Veronica Jackson

Veronica Jackson and Alex Bernardi are among the 500+ women who will be running the U.S. Olympic Trials Marathon this weekend in Atlanta, GA. They're longtime training partners, and on this episode, they talk about the power of running friendships, and the effects your best running friends can have on your goals. Today, Alex and Veronica live in separate cities — Veronica in Boston where she's an attorney at the Partners Healthcare Hospital System, and Alex in New York City, where she's a research associate at a nonprofit — but we got together in person to record this episode (after they finished their 20-miler, of course).

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Alex and Veronica were feeling two weeks out from the Trials (7:30)
Alex reflects on qualifying for the 2016 Olympic Trials (8:30)
What does it mean to each of them to get to run the Trials? (14:00)
Alex talks about her postpartum running experience, and shares how she qualified for the Trials again after having her son (16:20)
#TBT: Alex and Veronica share the story of how they met, and the importance of running friendships (19:50)
How moving out of NYC affected Veronica’s training (34:15)
How Veronica found new running buddies in Boston (52:00)
How Veronica and Alex support each other from afar, and what the OTQ community is like (56:15)

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Central Park Track Club

Sarah Cummings on Episode 112 of the Ali on the Run Show

Jenny Donnelly on Episode 193 of the Ali on the Run Show

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210. Elle Purrier, Indoor Mile American Record Holder Feb 24, 2020

"It’s a pretty misunderstood lifestyle. Unless you’re in it, you don’t really have a clue what it’s like to do it or why you would do it, because it’s so much work. But the people who have a passion for it would never change that."

Earlier this month, Elle Purrier won the Wanamaker Mile at the Millrose Games in New York City. In the process, she set a new American record in the indoor mile (4:16.85), broke a 37-year-old record, ran an 8-second personal best time, and ran the second fastest indoor mile in history. On this episode, Elle, who runs for New Balance, talks about that day, and reflects on her indoor season before she begins training for outdoor season — and the 2020 Olympic Track & Field Trials. She also talks about growing up on a dairy farm in Vermont, and how that impacted her work ethic.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Recapping Elle’s amazing race at the 2020 Millrose Games (3:00)
Recapping the next week’s USATF indoor championships in Albuquerque, where Elle ran the 3000m (11:00)
Elle sounds off on her competition (19:15)
What’s next for Elle, and how does outdoor training compare to indoor training? (20:30)
On growing up on a dairy farm in Vermont (22:45)
A closer look at Elle’s training, and looking back at the 2019 Fifth Avenue Mile (28:30)

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209. Catching Up with Andrea Barber Feb 20, 2020

"I’m an open book. I have no shame about anything I have gone through or felt."

Andrea Barber — perhaps best known as Kimmy Gibbler on Full House and the Netflix revival Fuller House — is back on the Ali on the Run Show! And this time, she's a published author! Andrea's first book, Full Circle: From Hollywood to Real Life and Back Again, came out late last year, and it's a hit. (I'm not just saying this because Andrea is a friend: This book is fantastic.) Full Circle isn't a salacious Hollywood memoir or tell-all. It's real and it's honest, and in it, Andrea shares her story in a raw, visceral way. On this episode, Andrea and I catch up on what's new in her life — including why her home is filled with thousands of boxes of Girl Scout Cookies, what it was like wrapping the fifth and final season of Fuller House, and where she's at with running right now — and we talk about some of my favorite parts of the book, including her uncensored stories about depression, anxiety, and divorce.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How it feels to have wrapped Fuller House (7:50)
On becoming a writer for Fuller House (20:55)
What’s next for Andrea? (29:00)
All about Andrea’s book, Full Circle: From Hollywood to Real Life and Back Again, and her decision to open up about depression, anxiety, and divorce (32:40)
How New Kids on the Block helped Andrea through her divorce (48:45)
Where Andrea is at with running right now (56:00)

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Andrea Barber on Episode 45 of the Ali on the Run Show

Andrea Barber on Episode 77 of the Ali on the Run Show

Full Circle: From Hollywood to Real Life and Back Again, by Andrea Barber

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208. Love on the Run Week with Kara & Adam Goucher Feb 14, 2020

"Change always takes time, and the battles that Adam and I have chosen to fight have just taken time. We’ve learned to be patient and to think less about ourselves and more about the future."

Happy Valentine’s Day! We're celebrating here on the Ali on the Run Show with the fifth and final episode of Love on the Run Week — and we're wrapping things up with the Gouchers! Kara and Adam Goucher have been married for 19 years. On this episode, we have an open and honest conversation about their struggles with infertility and how it affected their marriage, Kara's time as a Nike-sponsored athlete who was suspended without pay during her pregnancy and postpartum period, and why they've decided to be outspoken activists in the industry. They talk about developing thicker skin, how speaking out has impacted their relationship, and about why they're so passionate about clean sport.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Kara and Adam met (1:55)
Is marriage easy? (10:35)
How becoming parents has changed their relationship (16:15)
On struggling with infertility (23:40)
Reflecting on Kara’s time as a Nike-sponsored athlete, and why that time was “like being in a nightmare” for Kara and Adam (28:00)
Has speaking out publicly brought Kara and Adam closer or has it created marital stress? (41:20)
Kara and Adam share their 2020 goals, hopes, and dreams (48:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Kara on Episode 43 of the Ali on the Run Show

Kara on Episode 86 of the Ali on the Run Show

"It's Time For Me To Use My Voice" by Adam Goucher

Clean Sport Collective

Clean Sport Collective Podcast

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207. Love on the Run Week with Gwen Jorgensen & Pat Lemieux Feb 13, 2020

"It showed Pat my worst side, and what I’m like when I’m not my happy self."

Gwen Jorgensen won gold at the 2016 Olympic Games in the triathlon, and then decided she wanted to trade in the bike and the swim for a while to see how she could fare as a professional distance runner. Today, Gwen trains with the Bowerman Track Club, and is gearing up to compete at the 2020 Olympic Track & Field Trials in the 5K and 10K. And her husband, Pat Lemieux, will be by her side every step of the way. Pat was a professional cyclist, but he decided to put his career aside so he could fully support Gwen in hers. On this episode, they talk about that decision, and what it looked like then vs. now. Gwen and Pat live in Portland, OR, with their son, Stanley.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Gwen and Pat met (2:40)
How important was it to each of them to have a relationship with a fellow athlete? (10:20)
Pat’s decision to leave his career as a professional cyclist in order to support Gwen in her career (13:00)
On the decision to have a baby (25:00)
The biggest challenges Pat and Gwen face in their relationship (33:25)
Gwen’s decision to train for the 2020 Olympic Track & Field Trials (36:30)

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Gwen Jorgensen on Episode 54 of the Ali on the Run Show

Gwen Jorgensen on Episode 90 of the Ali on the Run Show

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206. Love on the Run Week with Steph & Ben Bruce Feb 12, 2020

"He doesn’t do these grand gestures — he just shows up for me every single day."

Love on the Run Week continues! From the Leers to the Lindens — to the Bruces! Today, professional marathon runners Steph and Ben Bruce are here to talk about what makes them Team Bruce. They talk about what it's like when Ben is pacing Steph on the run, like at the 2019 Chicago Marathon, and open up about the impact having their two sons (Riley and Hudson) has had on their careers and their marriage. Steph and Ben live in Flagstaff, AZ, where he is an assistant coach and she competes for NAZ Elite.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Steph and Ben met (2:45)
How Ben proposed to Steph (12:00)
What makes Steph and Ben a great team (17:15)
On resentment (25:00)
Reflecting on running the 2019 Chicago Marathon, where Steph ran a 2:27 personal best time, and Ben was on pacing duties (31:00)
How marriage has changed since having kids (37:00)
How Steph is feeling just a few weeks out from the Olympic Trials (42:35)

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Steph Bruce on Episode 104 of the Ali on the Run Show

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205. Love on the Run Week with Des & Ryan Linden Feb 11, 2020

“It’s competitive…in a healthy way!”

It's Love on the Run Week on the Ali on the Run Show! First we heard from Aisha Praught and Will Leer, and today it's the Linden's turn. On this episode, we hear from 2018 Boston Marathon champion Desiree Linden and her Ironman and entrepreneur husband, Ryan.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Des and Ryan met (2:15)
How important is running in their relationship? (8:30)
Des and Ryan reflect on some of the biggest moments in their careers and how they affected their relationship (15:50)
How Ryan and Des support each other and celebrate their wins (21:30)
Who’s the better spectator? (29:55)
When one person’s career is thriving and the other’s isn’t (34:00)
How Des is feeling leading up to the Olympic Trials (38:20)
The moments in each others’ careers Des and Ryan are most proud of (40:15)

What we mention on this episode:

Des on Episode 64 of the Ali on the Run Show

Des on Episode 77 of the Ali on the Run Show

Des on Episode 100 of the Ali on the Run Show

Ryan on Episode 83 of the Ali on the Run Show

Des on Episode 27 of the Clean Sport Collective podcast

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204. Love on the Run Week with Aisha Praught & Will Leer Feb 10, 2020

"When talking about running, it’s where we have to be the most delicate with each other."

We're celebrating love all week long on the Ali on the Run Show: Welcome to Love on the Run Week! Today, we're kicking things off with professional middle-distance runners Aisha Praught and Will Leer, who live and train in Boulder, CO.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Aisha and Will met (3:15)
How Will proposed (7:30)
On Aisha and Will’s competitive sides (11:30)
Why Aisha and Will moved from Oregon to Boulder, and how they made the decision (15:30)
Why Will and Aisha don’t do workouts together (21:30)
How Will and Aisha set goals individually and together (30:40)
The impact Gabe Grunewald’s passing has had on both Will and Aisha (41:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Aisha Praught Leer on Episode 197 of the Ali on the Run Show

"No Sacrifices for Aisha Praught Leer," by Erin Strout for Women's Running

The CIM Pacers on Episode 196 of the Ali on the Run Show

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203. Rick Powell, Houston Marathon 2:45 Pacer Feb 05, 2020

"There was an incredible amount of pressure that I acknowledged and then just kind of wanted to tuck away in the back of my mind and not pay attention to, because if I let that take over, I would’ve been scrutinizing it, and it would’ve gotten in my head, and I wouldn’t have been able to do what I did."

Rick Powell was the official 2:45 pacer at the 2020 Houston Marathon, who led a group of several dozen women hoping to qualify for the Olympic Trials. On this episode, Rick — a former Marine and current attorney who was fresh off a 2:31 finish at the Steamtown Marathon — reflects on his experience in Houston.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Why Rick wanted to be the OTQ pacer in Houston (5:55)
On the magnitude of the day for the women (14:30)
On getting advice from the CIM pacers before the race (21:00)
What it was like being the only pacer for the 2:45 group (25:30)
What it was like at the start of the Houston Marathon (34:20)
What happens when people fall off the pace group (39:55)
What it was like pacing Neely Spence Gracey (48:25)
The impact this experience had on Rick (51:00)

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Starla Garcia on Episode 200 of the Ali on the Run Show

Neely Spence Gracey on Episode 201 of the Ali on the Run Show

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202. Ramblings on the Run with Ali & Matt Jan 31, 2020

Welcome to a new monthly series on the Ali on the Run Show: Ramblings on the Run with Ali & Matt. Every month, Matt Chittim — host of the Rambling Runner podcast and the Road to the Olympic Trials show — and I will come together to talk about running industry news, our own running, and things we're loving right now, and to answer listener questions about running and podcasting. It's something new we're trying, so let us know what you think and what you want more (or less!) of. On this episode, we talk about each of our recent interviews with professional runner Neely Spence Gracey, the hype surrounding the upcoming Olympic Trials marathon, and what podcasting is like behind the microphone.

What we mention on this episode:

Neely Spence Gracey on Episode 201 of the Ali on the Run Show

Neely Spence Gracey on Episode 40 of Road to the Olympic Trials

"Amy Cragg Is Very Much Still in It, Thank You for Asking," by Sarah Lorge Butler for Runner's World

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201. Neely Spence Gracey Jan 30, 2020

"I wasn’t ready to run a marathon to my standards, and I did it anyway, and I was able to meet that goal, I was able to check off a goal, and I haven’t been able to do that in a long time."

Neely Spence Gracey just ran her first postpartum race since having her son, Athens, in 2018. She ran the Houston Marathon — and qualified for the Olympic Trials by running a 2:44. Not a bad return to the races! But Neely's journey to the OTQ hasn't been easy. On this episode, she talks about her pregnancy and postpartum running expectations vs. her reality, which included a series of injuries and other issues that kept her sidelined despite her best efforts to remain strong and healthy. She also talks about new motherhood, rest day-related anxiety, and why she stopped weighing herself.

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How Neely is feeling post-Houston Marathon, and why this marathon — her slowest — was also her proudest (2:30)
Neely talks about running during pregnancy, and her postpartum running experience (6:30)
Neely opens up about her nonlinear return to running (23:45)
Neely shares how her perspective about taking rest days has changed over the years (34:45)
Neely recaps her 2020 Houston Marathon experience (40:45)
Neely’s message to new moms trying to get back on the run (58:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Starla Garcia on Episode 200 of the Ali on the Run Show

Neely Spence Gracey on Episode 42 of the Ali on the Run Show

FITsplint

ReCoreFitness.com

"Neely Spence Gracey Is Ready to Chase the Olympic Trials Standard at Houston" by Taylor Dutch for Runner’s World

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200. Starla Garcia, Olympic Trials Qualifier & Registered Dietitian Jan 23, 2020

"I dropped so many F-bombs the last 10K! I just kept saying, 'It’s gonna happen, it’s gonna happen!' I was just so hyped up."

This past weekend, Starla Garcia ran the Chevron Houston Marathon in 2 hours and 43 minutes — officially qualifying to run the 2020 Olympic Trials. On this episode — the 200th episode of the Ali on the Run Show! — Starla talks about her road to the OTQ, including missing the cutoff by just two minutes at last year's Grandma's Marathon, and a DNF at CIM. She talks about developing an eating disorder in high school, and finding recovery as a division-1 athlete in college. Today, Starla is a registered dietitian living in Houston, TX.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Where Starla’s OTQ dream came from (3:10)
On bouncing back from disappointment (8:45)
What Starla’s pre-Houston training was like (14:45)
What it felt like to cross the finish line with an Olympic Trials qualifying time (27:00)
Starla reflects on her relationship with running when she was growing up, and the pressure she felt as a D-1 collegiate runner (31:00)
Starla talks about her past with an eating disorder (36:20)
On becoming a registered dietitian (49:40)

What we mention on this episode:

Carly Gill on Episode 182 of the Ali on the Run Show

Neely Spence Gracey on Episode 42 of the Ali on the Run Show

"Elated Runners Are Headed to Trials After Grabbing an #OTQinHOU," by Emilia Benton for Runner’s World

Anti-Diet by Christy Harrison

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199. My 2020 Visions, Plans, Hopes, & Dreams Jan 16, 2020

"I can’t sit around waiting for things to happen."

New year, excited me! On this short-ish solo episode, I'm sharing my 2020 vision — an Ali on the Run Show State of the Union of sorts. I talk about my personal and professional goals for this year, and reflect on my lululemon goal setting process. (Speaking of new: Come join the Ali on the Run Facebook group! We're having fun in there!)

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Looking back on 2019 (2:15)
On becoming a lululemon ambassador (4:45)
My goals, plans, hopes, and dreams for 2020 (15:30)

What I mention on this episode:

Today Show Modern Motherhood Series

"I'm a New York City Marathon Race Announcer"

2019 United Airlines NYC Half Recap

2019 Popular Brooklyn Half Recap

Garden State Plaza

lululemon Align Pants

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198. Rachel Gersten, Therapist & Co-Founder of Viva Wellness Jan 09, 2020

"The goal isn’t to stop feeling anxious or to judge yourself for it. That’s like saying, 'Oh, it shouldn’t be raining.' But it is. So now what?"

Rachel Gersten is a New York City-based licensed therapist, and is the co-founder of Viva Wellness. On this episode — perfect for the new year! — she dishes out advice about dealing with burnout, anxiety, and what to do when you realize you have no idea what you want to do with the rest of your life. She also talks about her lifelong battle with chronic pain, and how running more than 150 races, including marathons, has actually helped her cope with the pain.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What does it actually mean to be a wellness coach? (2:30)
Why are most people going to therapy these days? (10:30)
What to do when you realize you’re not sure what you want to be when you grow up (18:00)
What do appointments with Rachel look like? (24:25)
On chronic pain, and becoming a runner (34:00)

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Hannah Montana: The Bone Dance

Find a Way by Diana Nyad

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197. Aisha Praught Leer Jan 01, 2020

"Most people would describe me as kind and warm. But I have this other part of my personality: I am insatiably competitive."

Aisha Praught Leer is a professional middle-distance runner for Under Armour, a national record holder in the 5000 meters, a 2016 Olympian (she competed in the 3000-meter steeplechase), and a gold medal winner at the 2018 Commonwealth Games. On this episode, Aisha talks about her progression as a professional athlete, her decision to race for and represent Jamaica (she's a Jamaican-American dual citizen), and her dedication for giving back and helping inspire the next generation of runners. She talks about what it's like being married to fellow professional runner Will Leer, and opens up about her decision to leave Eugene, OR, where she trained with the Oregon Track Club Elite, and move to Colorado to train alongside Emma Coburn, under the direction of coach Joe Bosshard. She also shares her thoughts on imposter syndrome, working with a sports psychologist, and building mental strength.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Why do you do what you do? (4:30)
On building mental and physical strength as a professional athlete (14:00)
On competitiveness (23:30)
What it’s actually like working with a sports psychologist (25:30)
Why Aisha left Oregon Track Club to train with Joe Bosshard and Emma Coburn in Colorado (30:00)
Aisha’s decision to switch from the steeplechase to the 1500m (42:00)
Aisha’s decision to race for Jamaica (49:00)
All about drug testing (54:50)
How Aisha met now-husband Will Leer (1:03:00)

What we mention on this episode:

The Biggest Little Farm

Oregon Track Club Elite

Melissa Todd, Sports Psychologist

The Overstory

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196. The CIM Olympic Trials Qualifying Time Pacers Dec 25, 2019

"We put ourselves on the line to help other people accomplish their dreams, and that was pretty freaking awesome."

At the California International Marathon (CIM) earlier this month, 72 women ran faster than 2 hours 45 minutes, officially qualifying to run the Olympic Trials in the marathon. Leading several dozen of those women were Menso de Jong, Chris Stehula, and Ken Rakestraw — the official sub-2:45 pace group leaders. None of them had ever run a 2:45 marathon before. This is their story.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Menso, Chris, and Ken got the job as pacers (3:40)
How Menso, Chris, and Ken trained for the race (16:30)
The plan for race day! (26:25)
What the energy at the CIM start line was like (32:20)
On the rules of pacing (49:00)
What the finish was like (53:20)
Menso, Chris, and Ken share their messages for all the women who went for OTQ times at CIM this year (1:03.50)

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Jenny & Judi Donnelly on Episode 193 of the Ali on the Run Show

"The Marathon Protagonists" by Menso de Jong

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195. Mary Johnson, Founder of Lift, Run, Perform, on Postpartum Life and Running Dec 19, 2019

"I’m just winging it."

Mary Johnson (perhaps best known as @itsamarython on Instagram) is the owner of Lift, Run, Perform. She's a running coach and a strength coach who also works at Ranfone Training Systems. And she just had a baby! Mary's first child, Eli, is five months old, and on this episode, Mary very honestly talks about what the past five months have looked like for her. She talks about the highs and lows of new motherhood, explains her strategy for getting work done as a work-from-home mom, and opens up about her expectations vs. the reality of returning to running postpartum.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Mary talks about how she’s feeling at 20 weeks postpartum, and shares her take on expectation vs. reality (3:00)
On seeing a pelvic floor physical therapist (12:10)
On finding, develoing, and harnessing new-mom confidence (15:00)
Mary talks about having to get a D&C after giving birth (17:45)
On being a work-from-home entrepreneur mom, and getting back to work after baby (26:00)
Mary talks about coaching a group of women to run sub-3:00 marathons this fall (42:50)

What we mention on this episode:

Mary Johnson on Episode 122 of the Ali on the Run Show

Postpartum return-to-exercise recommendations

Abby Bales on Episode 49 of the Ali on the Run Show

Abby Bales on Episode 139 of the Ali on the Run Show

Reform Physical Therapy

Superhero Muffins

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194. Sarah Grooms, Rockette Turned Marathoner Dec 12, 2019

"In dance, you’re kind of always told what to do, how to do it, how perfect it has to be. Running has been a way for me to let all of that go."

Sarah Grooms spent 13 years doing hundreds of eye-high kicks a day as a Radio City Rockette. On this episode, she talks about everything you've ever wanted to know about performing at one of the world's most famous venues (including how Radio City's famous camels get their exercise between shows!), and explains why she decided to hang up her heels last year in favor of running shoes. Today, Sarah is a certified personal trainer, and is a fitness instructor at Precision Run in New York City and obé Fitness online — and she's a marathoner!

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Sarah reflects on her 13-year tenure as a Radio City Rockette (5:50)
On getting — and then losing — the dream job (12:50)
What it’s like performing at Radio City Music Hall (16:40)
What don’t audiences see from the Radio City Rockettes? (20:00)
The physical demands of being a Rockette (33:15)
Why Sarah decided to retire from the Rockettes — and how she became a runner (38:00)
What’s next for Sarah? (46:40)

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193. Jenny & Judi Donnelly BONUS EPISODE! Dec 11, 2019

"We are both a bit stubborn — especially about our goals." —Jenny Donnelly

It was a big, exciting weekend at the 2019 California International Marathon! It was especially exciting for the Donnelly family: 28-year-old Jenny qualified for the Olympic Marathon Trials, finishing in 2:44.31, and her mom, 62-year-old Judi celebrating 25 years of being breast-cancer-free, ran a lifetime personal best, finishing in a Boston Marathon qualifying time of 3:56. On this episode, Jenny and Judi reflect on their exciting weekend at CIM, and talk about why this sport and this community are so special. Jenny opens up about her history with race anxiety, and Judi talks about navigating parenting a child who is dealing with running-related panic attacks. It's a fun episode that proves why running is so magical.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Jenny breaks down her race at CIM (3:55)
Judi talks about running a 3:56 at CIM — a lifetime personal best! (10:45)
Jenny talks about her history for race anxiety (14:50)
Judi talks about what it was like running the New York City Marathon in the 80s! (25:40)
What it’s like getting panic attacks on the run (29:00)
Judi talks about being 25 years cancer-free, and talks about raising high-achieving daughters (36:30)

What we mention on this episode:

Dana-Farber Marathon Challenge Team

Heartbreak Hill Running Company

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192. Adrianne Haslet, Boston Marathon Bombing Survivor Dec 04, 2019

"I really hope that people seeing amputees in line at the grocery store don’t think, 'Oh, you poor thing,' they wonder, 'Oh, are you a marathoner?'"

In April 2013, Adrianne Haslet was living her dream as a professional ballroom dancer. On Marathon Monday, she found herself near the Boston Marathon finish line, watching the runners finish the iconic race. But then, so many lives were forever changed that day. When the two bombs went off near the finish, the second blast took Adrianne's foot. On this episode, she recounts that day in Boston, and talks about rebuilding and moving forward. She talks about learning to wear, walk, and run with a prosthetic leg, and beautifully talks about the importance of being defined not as a victim, but as a survivor. Despite being at the center of tragedy that day, Adrianne has become an inspiration — and a Boston Marathoner herself.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What brought Adrianne to the 2013 Boston Marathon finish line (3:00)
What, exactly, she remembers after the blast went off (6:00)
How Adrianne’s “rebuilding” process went, and what it was like putting on her prosthetic for the first time (17:30)
Adrianne talks about how her relationship with her body has changed since the bombings, and how she became a runner (26:00)
Adrianne talks about post-traumatic stress disorder, and how therapy has helped with her recovery (36:15)
How Adrianne became a Boston Marathon finisher (40:30)
The car accident that thwarted Adrianne’s 2019 Boston Marathon dreams (44:15)
Why the 2020 Boston Marathon will be extra special for Adrianne (47:15)

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191. The Great Turkey Trot of 2014 Nov 27, 2019

“It was in that moment I realized that I wasn’t running. I also realized I wasn’t jogging. I was barely walking. I looked down, and the tops of my shoes are scraping the ground — one slow movement after the next slow movement.”

It's an Ali on the Run Show Thanksgiving tradition! Four years ago, my now-husband, Brian, and I lined up at the start of two very different Turkey Trots. Though both races were five miles, the outcomes were vastly dissimilar. I ran the Prospect Park Track Club Turkey Trot in Brooklyn, NY, in a respectable 38:41 — a 7:44 minute-per-mile pace. Meanwhile, in Rhode Island, Brian was racing the Newport Pie Run. Here’s a dramatic retelling of how his race went. This is forever my favorite story, and I love re-sharing it every year. Happy Thanksgiving, and Happy LOL-ing!

What we mention on this episode:

Newport Pie Run

Prospect Park Track Club Turkey Trot

Meet Brian

Our engagement story

Mystery Science Theater 3000

Ugg slippers

"Nike Told Me to Dream Crazy, Until I Wanted a Baby," via The New York Times

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190. Sarah True, Olympian & Ironman Triathlete Nov 21, 2019

"One of the hardest conversations I ever had was to admit that I’d been struggling. And I no longer wanted to be alive."

Sarah True is a professional triathlete and Olympian. On this episode, she honestly and vulnerably shares her story of competing at the 2016 Olympics in Rio, hitting rock bottom, and the intense emotional recovery that followed. She opens up about her history with mood disorders and depression, and talks about how stress affects her body and her performance. She also talks about the past two years competing at the Ironman distance, including a very good year followed by a challenging one.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

On diversity, inclusivity, privilege, and bias in sport (3:00)
Sarah reflects on her racing year (8:30)
Sarah talks about competing at the 2016 Olympics in Rio, and the emotional aftermath that followed (24:45)
Sarah talks about managing her depression, and what that looks like today (36:00)
How Sarah met her now-husband, fellow professional athlete Ben True (46:00)
What Sarah says are the universal struggles in sport (51:00)

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189. Running Industry Hot Takes with Phoebe Wright Nov 15, 2019

"When you’re in a powerless position and the rest of your career is totally dependent on what you do, you aren’t going to burn bridges. You don’t have many bridges to walk across."

Phoebe Wright is a former professional middle-distance runner who spent six years competing as a Nike-sponsored athlete. Phoebe, an 800-meter specialist from Tennessee, became a five-time national champion before retiring after the 2016 Olympics. On this episode, she reflects on her time with Nike and talks about some of the big stories in running right now, including #DreamMaternity and Mary Cain. She also talks about confidence, overtraining, and being an advocate for the running industry and its athletes.

Thank you to the New York Road Runners Virtual Turkey Trot 5K for sponsoring this episode of the Ali on the Run Show! CLICK HERE to register (it’s free!) and complete your Turkey Trot anytime between November 23 and December 1. Everybody’s doing it!

What you’ll get on this episode:

Phoebe reflects on her six years as a Nike athlete (4:45)
Phoebe’s take on the #DreamMaternity coverage (13:10)
Phoebe discusses the recent Mary Cain story about Mary’s time working with Alberto Salazar and Nike (18:40)
Phoebe talks about training with Brooks (21:50)
On being an advocate, confidence, and having thick skin (27:45)
Phoebe talks about her experience with overtraining (30:45)
All about being a pharmacist! (35:30)

What we mention on this episode:

"Allyson Felix: My Own Nike Pregnancy Story," via The New York Times

"I Was the Fastest Girl in America, Until I Joined Nike," via The New York Times

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188. Nikki Hiltz & Therese Haiss Nov 14, 2019

"I’m kind of labeled as the gay runner. But those are two things I’m really proud of. I’m proud to be gay and I’m proud of my running." —Nikki Hiltz

Nikki Hiltz and Therese Haiss are professional runners for adidas. They live in San Diego where they train with the Mission Athletics Club, and on this episode, they talk about how they met — and how their immediate friendship evolved into something more. They talk about coming out to each other, and to their loved ones, and talk about society's obsession with labels. They share their insecurities, and talk about how living authentically has made them better runners. Nikki and Therese are one of my favorite pro runner couples, and they promised that nothing was off-limits for this conversation, which we had after they had just settled in Mammoth for four weeks of high-altitude training camp.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What altitude training looks like for Therese and Nikki, and what sacrifices they have to make as professional runners (2:30)
Nikki and Therese reflect on their trip to Doha for world championships (8:20)
How Nikki and Therese met, the evolution of their relationship, and what it was like coming out to friends and family — and to each other (21:20)
How coming out affected Nikki’s running (31:30)
Reflecting on that now-famous adidas Pride photo, plus their take on authenticity and whether there’s pressure to be a role model (36:15)
What’s coming up for Nikki and Therese? And what’s it like competing against each other in races? (49:00)

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Nikki Hiltz on Episode 170 of the Ali on the Run Show

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187. I'm a New York City Marathon Race Announcer! Nov 07, 2019

"I want to know that every person that crosses that finish line is celebrated. I don’t care what the time on the clock says. I want everyone’s hard work and dreams to be celebrated."

Last Sunday, I became an official TCS New York City Marathon finish line announcer. I always said my dream was to “stand at a finish line and cheer for all the runners.” And I got to do that on the world’s largest stage. I need about a month to sit and process the magic of this past week. What I got to do. The opportunities. The people I met. The conversations I had. The finishes and emotions I witnessed. The tears. The victories. The arms up in the air, in moments of pure awe and celebration. The chills I got, over and over. On this episode, I attempt to recap it all.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Recapping my 2019 TCS New York City Marathon week (1:30)
Answering listener questions all about announcing at the TCS New York City Marathon finish line (32:40)

What we mention on this episode:

Amelia Boone on Episode 80 of the Ali on the Run Show

Mile High Run Club

Altra Solstice

Team For Kids

The Izzo Brothers

NYRR Run with Champions

NYRR Night of Champions

Abbott Dash to the Finish Line 5K

2017 Abbott Dash to the Finish Line 5K Recap

Ali on the Run Show Live: Why It’s An Exciting Time for Women’s Running

NYRR RunCenter

2016 TCS New York City Marathon Recap

Janelle Hartman on Episode 185 of the Ali on the Run Show

Stephanie Pennington on Episode 183 of the Ali on the Run Show

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186. Why It's An Exciting Time For Women's Running LIVE Show Nov 05, 2019

It was an honor, a pleasure, and a privilege to host this live recording of the Ali on the Run Show at the New York Road Runners RunCenter the day before the 2019 TCS New York City Marathon. Five leaders in the industry — Mary Wittenberg, Lauren Fleshman, Alison Desir, Jen Ator, and Lindsay Crouse — discuss why it's an exciting time to be a woman in running right now, and address the work that still needs to be done to make the running world more inclusive.

THANK YOU to New York Road Runners for hosting us and for sponsoring this episode. Be sure to check out all the great (free!) programming at the NYRR RunCenter featuring the New Balance Run Hub.

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185. Janelle Hartman, Final Finisher of the 2018 New York City Marathon Oct 30, 2019

"Everyone talks about the roar on first avenue. Mine was trying to dodge the roar of the cleaning trucks!"

Last year, 55-year-old Janelle Hartman became a marathoner. After running more than 100 races and volunteering at just as many, Janelle decided that 2018 was the year she would run the TCS New York City Marathon. And on this episode, she talks about what it's like to be the very last finisher of the marathon: Janelle was the final finisher at the 2018 New York City Marathon. She paints a picture about what it was like running the marathon in the dark, being moved onto the city sidewalks, without that famous roar of screaming fans on First Avenue. And she talks about why runners shouldn't be afraid of coming in last, and why it should be celebrated. She opens up about the times in her own life when she let her fears, worries, and concerns hold her back from pursuing her dreams, and shares what it's like on the other side of success. When Janelle isn't running or volunteering, she works as a psychotherapist in a nursing home.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How it felt to be the final finisher of the 2018 TCS New York City Marathon (4:20)
Janelle recaps her 2018 race (7:10)
Janelle’s message to runners who don’t want to sign up for races because they’re “afraid of coming in last” (20:30)
On receiving the 2018 Joe Kleinerman Award from New York Road Runners (27:00)
Janelle talks about how she started running at 49, her inspiration, and her decision to run a marathon at 55 (31:40)
What does Janelle wish more runners understood about what it takes to make a race happen? (50:00)
Janelle talks about her career in psychiatry (54:00)

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184. Crohn's Disease and Motherhood with Natalie Hayden Oct 28, 2019

"This illness is just a small part of me. It’s not all of me. I’m still able to be a mom. And I haven’t allowed my disease to rob me of that. It just gives me strength. It almost makes me feel like a badass some days! It’s not always pretty, but for the most part, I’m doing what I want to do with my life despite my illness."

Natalie Hayden was diagnosed with Crohn's disease right after graduating college. She was on track to pursue her dream job as a television anchor, but her inflammatory bowel disease (IBD) diagnosis tried to derail that. After several hospitalizations and a series of bowel obstructions, Natalie underwent major surgery to remove 18 inches from her intestines. But despite the disease's valiant efforts to keep Natalie down, she has persevered. She went on to become a TV news anchor, just as she'd always dreamed, and she's a mother to two healthy children. Today, Natalie is a freelance, work-from-home mom who chronicles her life with Crohn's disease at Lights, Camera, Crohn's: An Unobstructed View. This is an honest conversation about what it looks like when you have a chronic illness and want to become a mom, and what concerns arose for both Natalie and me in our respective journeys.

Thank you to the American Gastroenterological Association's IBD Parenthood Project for sponsoring this episode of the Ali on the Run Show! If you or someone you know has inflammatory bowel disease, like Crohn’s disease or ulcerative colitis, go to ibdparenthoodproject.org for support on your journey to and through parenthood.

What you’ll get on this episode:

Natalie talks about her Crohn’s diagnosis (4:30)
Natalie talks about moving away from home and pursuing her dream job — with Crohn’s as her sidekick (11:00)
How having a chronic illness has affected Natalie’s relationships and marriage (16:50)
Natalie talks about her history with bowel obstructions, and her bowel resection surgery (23:50)
Natalie talks about her decision to have children, and her concerns about how Crohn’s may affect her ability to get pregnant, have a baby, and be a mom (37:20)
To breastfeed or not to breastfeed with a chronic illness? Natalie talks about trying to make the decision that was right for her and her family (45:20)

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183. Stephanie Pennington, Creator of Project Finish Oct 24, 2019

"They don’t expect a group to be there. And any runner deserves that incredible finish, no matter if it took two hours or if it’s taken 12. It’s not so much the time that needs to be celebrated in this case, it’s the passion and the drive and the motivation behind each runner’s story."

In 2015, Stephanie Pennington had just completed her first New York City Marathon. After finishing, she went out to celebrate — but before heading back home, she wanted to swing back through Central Park to see if anything was still happening. It was 7:45 PM, and Stephanie saw runners still making their way to the iconic finish line. She was inspired — and she didn't want any of those runners to ever finish 26.2 miles without a celebration. That's how Project Finish was born. (This video is a must-watch.) Now, every year at the TCS New York City Marathon finish line, Stephanie encourages people to join her and her wildly enthusiastic, growing group of supporters to cheer at the finish line until the very last runner comes through. On this episode, Stephanie — who is a fashion and technical designer for QVC — shares some inspiring finish line stories, and talks about her hopes and dreams for Project Finish this year.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What inspired Stephanie to start Project Finish (3:30)
What is the Project Finish vibe like? (12:15)
Stephanie’s favorite Project Finish memories from over the years (15:50)
Why YOU should show up for Project Finish at this year’s TCS New York City Marathon (27:10)
Stephanie shares her running story (34:10)
All about Stephanie’s job (47:15)

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Project Finish

Project Finish in the New York Times

New York Road Runners Virtual Training Programs

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182. Carly Gill, Olympic Trials Qualifier Oct 16, 2019

"I think kindness can solve a lot of problems."

Last year, Carly Gill made a goal to qualify for the Olympic Trials in the marathon. She ran CIM in December 2018 — and came up just two minutes short of her goal. So this year, Carly was ready to get stronger, faster, and fitter, and again chase down an OTQ time of 2:45 or faster. On this episode, Carly talks about her dream come true: running a 2:42 at the Berlin Marathon, and officially qualifying to run the Olympic Marathon Trials in Atlanta in February 2020. She talks about the mental side of training and racing, and shares her take on expectations, disappointment, and how to emotionally recover after a race. Carly is a freelance TV producer living in Brooklyn, NY.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Carly reflects on running an Olympic Trials qualifying time at the Berlin Marathon (2:45)
On running most of the race surrounded by men (23:00)
Carly revisits the heartbreaks on the way to her 2:42 marathon, and talks about putting her goals out there publicly (29:00)
How Carly went from running a 6:14 mile to running 26.2 of them at 6:10 pace (35:00)
A look at Carly’s Berlin training cycle, and how it was different than past marathon training cycles (42:40)
Carly talks about joining a team — or not joining a team (52:00)
Carly talks about life as a freelance television producer (59:30)

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181. Carrie Tollefson BONUS EPISODE! Oct 14, 2019

“The way that I’m training is good for my soul right now.”

Carrie Tollefson is a professional middle-distance runner and Olympian turned mom of three, broadcaster, race analyst, podcast host, running camp director, and so much more. Most recently, the former 1500-meter specialist added another impressive title to her list: 2:51 marathoner. Six years ago, Carrie was four months postpartum and ran her first marathon in an astonishing time of 3:02. She made a goal to someday run a sub-3:00 marathon, and this was her year. On this episode, the Minnesota native and host of C Tolle Run talks about her somewhat unconventional training methods, why this was the time to pursue her marathon dreams, and what it meant to her to race in a Brave Like Gabe singlet.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Carrie breaks down her 2:51 at the Twin Cities Marathon, and shares why she decided to run a marathon this year (5:35)
Why Carrie says her race was “surprising” to her (12:00)
What it meant to Carrie to run in a Brave Like Gabe singlet (18:15)
Where does Carrie see herself in the sport right now? And where does she want to be and go? (28:30)
What a day in Carrie’s life looks like, and when she gets her runs in (38:45)
How Carrie got into broadcasting (44:30)
Carrie revists her list of goals from two years ago! (1:04:04)

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Wellbeats

Janae Baron on Episode 89 of the Ali on the Run Show

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180. Roberta Groner, 2:29 Marathoner, Nurse, & Mom of Three Oct 09, 2019

"I’m not one to usually show too much emotion crossing a finish line, but that last 100 to 200 meters, I thought about my children, my family, and all the hard work I did to put into this race that I had a lot of people doubt or question. It was just this moment of, 'This is why I do what I do.'"

Roberta Groner just returned from Qatar, where she was one of three women representing the United States at the marathon world championships. But Roberta isn't a full-time professional athlete: She's a full-time nurse, a 41-year-old single mom of three, and a 2:29 marathoner. (She's one of only three U.S. women over 40 to have broken 2:30 in the marathon.) Roberta's story is pretty remarkable and wildly impressive. On this episode, she recounts her race in Doha — it was 90 degrees and 73 percent humidity, and the race started at midnight — where she finished sixth overall and was the first American finisher. She talks about why she chose to go to world championships when she was very aware of the grueling conditions that awaited her, and she talks about how she's gotten faster and stronger over the years. Roberta isn't slowing down on the roads or in life: She'll race the TCS New York City Marathon in just a few weeks, and then she'll compete at the U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials in Atlanta in February 2020.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Roberta breaks down the world championships marathon in Doha, including the heat and how she prepped for it, her goals, and her strategy (3:15)
How Roberta is feeling now, and what her training will look like between now and the New York City Marathon in a few weeks (22:25)
Roberta’s thoughts on sponsorship (32:30)
Roberta shares her running story, including why she took a long break — and what brought her back (37:30)
How Roberta has chipped away at her marathon time over the years (39:50)
What Roberta is doing to ensure her longevity in the sport, and when she fits running into her busy life (43:40)

What we mention on this episode:

New York Athletic Club

Truly Faster as a Master: Roberta Groner, 41, Makes U.S. World Championships Marathon Team, via Erin Strout for Women's Running

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179. Janae Baron BONUS EPISODE! Oct 08, 2019

"That’s running — all of us are having major fails along the way! That’s what keeps bringing us back. We’re chasing that perfect race and that perfect day."

This past weekend, Janae Baron — Hungry Runner Girl — ran a 2:49 at the St. George Marathon. It was a 9 minute 55 second personal best time at the distance. It took Janae nine years to go sub-3:00 in the marathon. Last year, she ran a 2:59 — and thought she was good, done, and satisfied. Her potential, she thought, had been reached. But then: a 2:49, just one year later. On this episode, Janae recaps this breakthrough race, sharing every detail of the weekend, including what it was like being part of the elite start (and getting her own fuel and hydration bottles on the course!). She talks about how, exactly, she's gotten faster, and about joining a team and what that looks like. (She now trains with a group of "big dreamers," she told me.) Janae also opens up about what it's like racing when you're a public-facing person and have thousands of people following along: Does that add pressure, motivation, or both?

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Recapping Janae’s 2:49 race at the St. George Marathon (4:00)
Does being a public person affect Janae on race day? (35:30)
How Janae went from a 2:59 to a 2:49, and what it’s been like running and training with a team (42:00)
Janae’s experience experimenting with carb depletion before her race (55:00)
What it means to Janae to be stubborn about her goals (59:20)
What’s next for Janae? (1:01:00)
Janae’s messages to marathoners in all stages this season (1:03:50)

What we mention on this episode:

Janae Baron on Episode 50 of the Ali on the Run Show

St. George Marathon

How Bad Do You Want It? by Matt Fitzgerald

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178. Ladia Albertson-Junkans, Ultra Runner & Best Friend to Gabe Grunewald Oct 03, 2019

"Gabe was all about trying her best, whereas I was more about striving for perfection. And thankfully, I had Gabe in my life to show me what that really meant — trying your best — and why that was so much better than striving for perfection."

Ladia Albertson-Junkans is a collegiate cross-country runner turned ultramarathoner. Most recently, Ladia ran the Western States 100, and followed that up by running the Fastest Known Time (FKT) on the Timberline Trail around Mount Hood. Ladia is also well known in the running community as Gabe Grunewald's best friend. On this poignant episode, Ladia beautifully shares stories about Gabe, who passed away this summer. She talks about their friendship, including the sweet story of how they met, and opens up about being by Gabe's side during her final days. She talks about what it means to be brave, the role running played in her grieving process, and about learning how to say goodbye. Ladia also talks about how important it was to Gabe to make sure the Brave Like Gabe Foundation kept running and inspiring fellow cancer patients.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

On running the Fastest Known Time on the Timberline Trail around Mount Hood, including how Ladia felt Gabe’s presence before and during the run (6:00)
On running Western States in June (19:40)
When does Ladia fit running into her busy life? (26:20)
How Ladia and Gabe met, and why Gabe wouldn’t let Ladia quit running after college (27:30)
Ladia opens up about what Gabe’s last few weeks were like, and shares a few stories about Gabe that speak to her remarkable character (33:45)
Ladia talks about that visit from Chip and Joanna Gaines (41:30)
Did Gabe know the impact she had on the world? (46:00)
What does it mean to live #BraveLikeGabe? (55:30)

What we mention on this episode:

Gabe Grunewald on Episode 62 of the Ali on the Run Show

Kelly Hogan on Episode 123 of the Ali on the Run Show

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177. You Can Run a Marathon Q&A with Greg McMillan & Dr. Cathy Yeckel Oct 01, 2019

"You can race as many 5Ks, 10Ks, and half marathons as you'd like, but that suffering that's at the end of the marathon is a totally different experience." —Greg McMillan

On the final episode in the You Can Run a Marathon series, experts Greg McMillan and Dr. Cathy Yeckel are on hand to answer dozens of listener questions about training, race day, nutrition, and more. Greg McMillan is the founder of McMillan Running, where he is also the head coach, exercise physiologist, and 2:31 marathoner. Dr. Yeckel, also a multiple-time marathoner, is a human metabolism researcher and assistance clinical professor at the Yale School of Public Health.

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176. Megan Harrington, Creator of The Runner's Kitchen Sep 25, 2019

"One run or two runs, or even a handful of runs, in the grand scheme of things isn’t really going to make that much of a difference. So I try not to get too stressed out about it."

You may know Megan Harrington (formerly Kretz) as one of the OG running bloggers: She is the woman behind the popular "Runner's Kitchen" blog. In 2008, Megan had just graduated from Wesleyan University and moved to New York City to pursue her writing dreams. She joined the Central Park Track Club — and Twitter! — and started blogging about her training, in addition to working a slew of different jobs, including writing, editing, and working at a law firm. Today, Megan is a mom of two (to Teddy, 3, and Evelyn, 13 months) living in upstate New York with her husband, Brian. She works several part-time jobs: She's a freelance writer, social media manager for a local newspaper, and peer breastfeeding counselor for the county WIC program. On this episode, Megan talks about her recent postpartum half-marathon PR, when she fits marathon training into her busy life, and how running has changed for her since becoming a mom. Megan will be running the Chicago Marathon in two weeks.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Megan talks about running a big postpartum half-marathon PR, and her decision to hire a coach at this point in her life (3:45)
How Megan found and fell in love with running (8:00)
On having a running blog back in the glory days of blogging, and how the running industry has changed over the past decade (16:20)
Megan talks about her career evolution (20:30)
How running has changed for Megan since becoming a mom (24:40)
All about being a breastfeeding educator for the local WIC program (36:15)
Megan’s advice to newly postpartum women who are eager to get back on the run (42:25)
Megan’s Chicago Marathon plans, goals, hopes, and dreams (46:00)

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Central Park Track Club

ShePodcasts Facebook Group

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175. You Can Run a Marathon with Meb Keflezighi Sep 23, 2019

"The marathon is a metaphor for life. It’s about patience, and you get out of it what you put in it."

This is a very special episode of the You Can Run a Marathon series, because it was recorded live in front of a fantastic audience at Finish Line Physical Therapy in New York City. Meb Keflezighi is the only person to ever win the New York City Marathon, Boston Marathon, and Olympic silver medal. Runner's World named him The Most Influential Person in Running, and he's the author of several books, including Meb for Mortals and 26 Marathons. On this episode, Meb reflects on his career on the run, talks about what he's learned about life and running and how they intersect, and shares whether there's any chance we might see him at the start line of the 2020 Olympic Marathon Trials in February. He also shares the story of getting a congratulatory phone call from President Obama after winning the 2014 Boston Marathon, and dining with the Obamas a few weeks later.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What does it mean to Meb to “run to win?” And how does he keep going when the race is getting tough? (5:30)
Meb’s New York City Marathon-specific advice (13:25)
What are the keys to being able to run for life? (17:50)
Why the 2013 New York City Marathon was so special for local runner Mike Cassidy, who got to finish with Meb (22:00)
Why the marathon is a metaphor for life (26:20)
All about that post-Boston-win call from President Obama (28:30)
Why the marathon for Meb? (35:20)
On pre-race nerves and anxiety, mental training, and visualization (46:10)
What race week looks like for Meb (53:30)
Is there any chance we might see Meb at the 2020 Olympic Marathon Trials?! (55:30)

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174. A Behind-the-Scenes Look at the Ali on the Run Show Sep 18, 2019

"If you are sitting on an idea, a dream, a plan, the longer you wait to execute on it, the sooner someone else will. So stop waiting, stop procrastinating. Do as I say, not as I’ve done!"

It's solo episode time! On this episode, I'm talking all about what goes on behind the scenes of the Ali on the Run Show, answering listener questions about getting started, choosing guests, recording, editing, working with sponsors, pay days, and more. I also talk about the episodes I've recorded but never aired — and why — and share a few never-before-told stories. Next week it's back to regularly exciting running-related programming. Until then, I hope you enjoy this long-winded peek behind the microphone.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Getting started (2:10)
All about equipment (12:00)
How I prep for episodes (15:00)
On choosing guests and having conversations (21:50)
All about recording and editing (48:00)
Sponsor stuff (1:01:40)
And more random questions about podcasting and the Ali on the Run Show (1:08:10)

What we mention on this episode:

Blue Snowball microphone

Blue Yeti microphone

Audacity

Libsyn hosting

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173. You Can Run a Marathon with Dawn Grunnagle Sep 16, 2019

At about mile 9, I was in the porta-potty, wishing and praying that somebody would pick it up. I was like, ‘If I stay here long enough, somebody will pick up the porta-potty. I just want to disappear in here.’ That’s how terrible I felt.""

At 41 years old, Dawn Grunnagle is proof that you can, in fact, keep getting faster with age. Dawn is a Nike-sponsored professional 1500-meter runner turned master's marathoner. (Before going pro, she spent 10 years teaching third and fourth graders. Aw!) She has qualified for the Olympic Trials three times: first in 2012 in the 1500, and then in 2016 and 2020 in the marathon. Last year, she ran a 2:34 personal best time — but the road to OTQ glory hasn't been easy or pretty for Dawn. On this episode, she talks about her earliest marathon days, which involved a lot of porta-potties and puking. (Relatable!) She talks about how she chipped away at her time over the years, going from a 2:49 to a 2:34, and talks about her adventures in fueling. (Key takeaway: Just because it works for someone you admire doesn't mean it will work for you!) Dawn is currently training for the 2019 Berlin Marathon.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Dawn got into the marathon distance — and why she stuck with it despite getting off to a rough start (2:00)
What Dawn considers her breakthrough race (17:50)
How Dawn went from a 2:49 marathon to a 2:34, and what her marathon training looks like (19:00)
What Dawn’s recovery looks like (26:50)
What race week is like for Dawn (33:00)
What Dawn’s goals are for the 2020 Olympic Marathon Trials (39:30)

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172. Amanda Nurse, Elite Marathoner for adidas Sep 11, 2019

"We decided, 'OK, I’m gonna run in the Trials and then we’ll hopefully get pregnant right away, and then I’ll maybe even be able to run a fall marathon the next year!' And…it didn’t happen like that."

You probably know Amanda Nurse by her Instagram moniker: Amanda Runs Boston. And she sure does. Amanda is a 20-time marathoner and two-time Olympic Trials qualifier in the marathon. She's a clinical social worker turned adidas-sponsored runner and coach who has taken her marathon time from 3:26 to a very impressive 2:40. On this episode, Amanda talks about her road to elite distance running, her decision to make a major career change, and her adventures in motherhood. She opens up about her "plans" to get pregnant and what that means for a professional runner, and shares what actually happened on her road to having Riley, her now two-year-old son. It's an honest, real-talk-filled conversation about the realities of new motherhood. (And fun fact: Amanda is coached by former Ali on the Run Show guest Kaitlin Goodman!

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Did Amanda always want to be a runner? Plus, the time Joan Benoit Samuelson called Amanda a sandbagger (2:50)
How Amanda met her husband at a local 5K (13:00)
Amanda reflects on the first time she qualified for the Olympic Trials in the marathon, and what running the Trials was like (22:00)
How Amanda has improved her mental strength (30:30)
On deciding to have a baby, and the surprising amount of time it took to get pregnant (34:40)
How Amanda felt throughout her pregnancy, and her adventures in postpartum running (45:00)
On postpartum emotions, depression, and more (54:10)
What Amanda wishes she had known as a new runner (1:02:35)

What we mention on this episode:

Beach to Beacon

Dana-Farber Cancer Institute

How Bad Do You Want It by Matt Fitzgerald

Barre3

Kara Goucher on Episode 43 of the Ali on the Run Show

Molly Millwood on Episode 155 of the Ali on the Run Show

Amanda’s postpartum post

To Have and To Hold by Dr. Molly Millwood

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171. You Can Run a Marathon with Molly Bookmyer Sep 09, 2019

"You deserve to be on that starting line. Believe in yourself and your training."

Molly Bookmyer is a 2:44 marathoner who recently finished third in the U.S. 25K championships. But the road to an Olympic Trials qualifying time hasn't been easy. On this episode, Molly shares her inspiring story of resilience and positivity. In 2013, Molly's doctors found a brain tumor and needed to perform brain surgery to remove it. Then, she suffered a seizure while running on the treadmill, and had to have a second brain surgery. After recovering, getting healthy, and getting back on the run, Molly and her now-husband got married. But one week after returning from their honeymoon, he was diagnosed with testicular cancer. Molly is a force to be reckoned with, on the run and beyond.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Molly’s inspiring story (2:05)
On leaning into running during difficult times (8:50)
On grieving an injury and healing emotionally (12:15)
What Molly’s work day looks like right now (15:20)
Why the marathon? Plus, what Molly’s first marathon training cycle and race looked like (16:10)
How Molly fuels for marathon training and racing (22:00)
When Molly realized she had the potential to run an Olympic Trials qualifying time in the marathon (26:00)
On training in Ohio’s ever-changing weather (34:10)
What race week looks like for Molly (35:10)

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170. LIVE at NYRR RunnerCon with Nikki Hiltz & Allie Ostrander Sep 08, 2019

“Pressure is a privilege.” —Nikki Hiltz

Allie Ostrander and Nikki Hiltz are both having huge breakthrough years on the run. Allie, who recently signed with Brooks Running, and Nikki, who is in her second year as a pro athlete for adidas, joined me for a live show at New York Road Runners's second annual RunnerCon event the day before the New Balance Fifth Avenue Mile to talk racing, big dreams, goals, and activism. Neither Allie nor Nikki had ever run Fifth Avenue before, so it was fun talking to them on the eve of the big race. (Nikki ended up running strong and placing fourth!)

What we mention on this episode:

Emma Coburn and Jenny Simpson on Episode 96 of the Ali on the Run Show

Allie Ostrander on Episode 162 of the Ali on the Run Show

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169. Emily Sisson Sep 05, 2019

"At this level, everyone works really hard. You can’t just say, 'Oh, she just works the hardest.' All the elite athletes on that starting line, everyone has their own challenges in their build up and had to overcome those. Everyone has their own story."

Emily Sisson just might be having the best year of her life. The professional runner for New Balance kicked off her year by running a 1:07 at the Houston Half Marathon — coming just five seconds short of the American record. In April, Emily made her marathon debut at the London Marathon, where she ran a 2:23, finishing in sixth place and becoming the seventh-fastest U.S. woman ever at the marathon distance. It was also the second-fastest marathon debut by an American woman. This summer, Emily competed in the 10,000 meters at USA Track & Field Nationals, and landed a spot on the U.S. world team. She'll head to Doha later this month to represent the United States. On this episode, Emily reflects on her breakout year and talks about what's next, including where her head is at leading up to the 2020 Olympic Marathon Trials in February. She talks about what training at altitude is really like and what her training looks like right now, and she shares the game-changing marathon advice she got from Meb Keflezighi, Des Linden, and training partner Molly Huddle.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How was Emily’s run today? (3:00)
What is training at altitude really like? (4:20)
All about Emily’s relationship with her husband and part-time pacer (10:30)
Emily reflects on the highlights of her year on the run (14:30)
What advice did training partner Molly Huddle give Emily before running London? (19:30)
Why Emily chose not to run this year’s NYRR New York Mini 10K, and how she came back to land a spot on the U.S. 10,000m team (21:50)
Is there pressure surrounding the 2020 Olympic Trials? Plus, what it’s like being an American female distance runner right now (28:00)
How Emily and Molly became friends and training partners (38:10)
What Emily’s diet looks like (42:20)

What we mention on this episode:

Molly Huddle on Episode 66 of the Ali on the Run Show

Molly Huddle on Episode 51 of the Ali on the Run Show

Amy Cragg on Episode 97 of the Ali on the Run Show

Des Linden on Episode 100 of the Ali on the Run Show

Des Linden on Episode 64 of the Ali on the Run Show

Maurten

The Heart’s Invisible Furies

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168. Dr. Shelby Harris, Clinical Psychologist & Sleep Expert Sep 05, 2019

“When I started running, people laughed at me. But it was a challenge I needed to do for myself.”

Dr. Shelby Harris is a clinical psychologist and clinical associate professor at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in the neurology and psychiatry departments. She specializes in anxiety, depression, and treating sleep disorders, and is the author of The Women's Guide to Overcoming Insomnia. What does that have to do with running? On this episode, Dr. Harris shares how treating her insomnia-and-sleep-apnea-riddled patients led her to marathon running. She's now a 13-time marathoner who has taken her time from 5:19 to 3:45, and she's currently training for the 2019 Chicago Marathon, where she hopes to run a Boston Qualifying time. Dr. Harris shares her story of being seconds away from crossing the Boston Marathon finish line in 2013 when the second bomb went off, and talks about losing hearing in her left ear as a result of the blast. She also talks about using exposure therapy as a way to get back to running and racing. Plus, she answers your sleep questions! We received more than 200 questions from listeners (wow!), and Dr. Harris dishes out loads of advice, from how to deal with insomnia to how sleep impacts running and so much more.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Shelby got into the sleep field — and found running along the way (5:10)
How much sleep should we all be getting, realistically? (8:50)
On having phones in the bedroom (14:00)
How sleep impacts running (19:35)
How Shelby shaved nearly 90 minutes off her marathon time (21:50)
Shelby’s 2013 Boston Marathon story (24:10)
Shelby answers listener questions about sleep (34:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Montefiore Sleep Disorders Center

Jen Bigham on Episode 151 of the Ali on the Run Show

Jack Daniels Run S.M.A.R.T. Program

Wake Up Narcolepsy

Fueled by Doughnuts Run Club

Newport Marathon

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167. You Can Run a Marathon with Mo Alkhawaldeh Sep 02, 2019

"You just have to show up. And I showed up."

Not too long ago, Mo Alkhawaldeh was a casual smoker. Today, he's a 2:23 marathoner with his sights set on representing his home country of Jordan in the 2020 Olympic Games. But although Mo is one of the top-ranked runners in the Middle East and Africa, he's not a full-time runner: He works full-time at Princeton University, where he's also the head coach of the Princeton Running Club. He gets his training done before and after work — elite marathoners, they're just like us! In 2015, Runner's World named Mo one of the 50 most influential people in running. Mo, who is coached by Ryan Hall, is currently training for the Berlin Marathon, where he hopes to run a 2:18.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Why running, and why the marathon for Mo (2:30)
The sacrifices that come with training at a high — but not professional — level (11:30)
How Mo stays healthy on the run (18:10)
A day in Mo’s diet (19:50)
What race week looks like for Mo (25:00)

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166. Rachel Wyman, Owner of Montclair Bread Company & Founder of Fueled by Doughnuts Run Club Aug 28, 2019

"I was in survival mode. What can I do to pay our rent? What can I do to put food on the table?"

When Rachel Wyman was five months postpartum with her third child, she opened her first bakery: Montclair Bread Company. Then, when the bakery hit 4,000 Facebook likes, Rachel decided she should do something to celebrate the social media milestone. Despite not being a runner and never having run a race herself, she hosted a low-key 4K race that has since grown to become New Jersey's hardest-to-get-into annual 5K. And Rachel, of course, has become a runner and triathlete along the way. Today, Montclair Bread Company is the town's go-to destination for runners, and is home to the 2,000-member Fueled by Doughnuts run club. On this episode, Rachel, a mom of three, talks about what it was like working 80-hour weeks while getting her MBA and being the sole income provider for her family of five. (Her final project for her master's degree was a business plan for a bakery — which she then made into a reality. A+ for Rachel!) She talks about the accident that shattered her pelvis and changed her life, the power of community, and the importance of following your passions and being open to where life takes you.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

The story behind the Fueled by Doughnuts 5K, and how it grew to something huge and amazing (4:45)
How Rachel started the Fueled by Doughnuts run club, and grew it to more than 2,000 members (18:50)
On being naturally business-minded (31:10)
What it feels like walking into her bakery every day (52:50)
What it was like being on — and winning! — Food Network’s Doughnut Showdown (55:00)
The accident that shattered Rachel’s pelvis and changed her life (57:50)

What we mention on this episode:

Fueled by Doughnuts 5K

Sleepy Hollow Half Marathon

Wineglass Marathon

Bread Alone

"Meet the Club that Runs for Doughnuts" via Runner’s World

Ironman Lake Placid

Mohawk Hudson Marathon

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165. You Can Run a Marathon with Chirine Njeim Aug 26, 2019

"I never picture myself at the start or during the race or what I’m doing during the race. I just picture myself finishing. That’s all I can see."

Chirine Njeim is a four-time Olympian — but the four times she's represented her home country of Lebanon haven't all been on the run. Chirine is a former alpine ski racer turned marathon runner. She competed at the Winter Olympics three times, and in 2016 made her Summer Olympics debut in the marathon. Today, Chirine is a 12-time marathoner who has taken her time from 3:07 to 2:39. Chirine lives in Chicago, where she works full-time and trains with the Second City Track Club. On this episode, she shares how a fun run at the Shamrock Shuffle 8K changed her life, and what her training looks like right now as she gears up for the 2019 Chicago Marathon.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Chirine got into skiing and running (2:15)
How Chirine got faster (9:30)
What Chirine’s marathon training looks like (13:50)
What Chirine’s diet is like (21:30)
A look at what a typical race week is like for Chirine (26:45)
Chirine’s rough races (34:30)

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164. Carrie Kreiswirth, Breast Cancer Survivor & Marathoner Aug 21, 2019

"I was letting life pass me by. I had just gone through all of this insanity, and I wasn’t really a participant in my own life. How could I let that happen?"

I first met Carrie Kreiswirth in 2011, when a marketing campaign for a local running store brought us together. Several years later, I saw a photo of Carrie on Facebook. She was bald. What had I missed? In the time since we met, Carrie had tested positive for the BRCA1 gene mutation — the one that raises the probability of developing breast and ovarian cancer — and was diagnosed with stage one triple negative invasive ductal carcinoma. Breast cancer. She underwent chemotherapy and breast reconstruction surgery. She went through the process of having her eggs frozen. And then, the self-proclaimed "non-runner" ran the New York City Marathon. This is a powerful, emotional, and inspirational episode.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Carrie shares her breast cancer story, starting from diagnosis (4:50)
What chemotherapy — and losing her hair — was like, and the aftermath (23:40)
How Carrie took back control of her life (32:40)
How Carrie celebrated five years since her cancer diagnosis (42:45)
Carrie’s message to women facing a scary diagnosis or life change (55:45)

What we mention on this episode:

Run for the Rabbit

Care+Wear

Center for Restorative Breast Surgery

First Descents

Coach Cane

The Breasties

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163. You Can Run a Marathon with Alexi Pappas Aug 20, 2019

"I realized, no one on the sidelines is judging me as harshly as I’m judging myself."

Welcome to the first episode in the seven-part "You Can Run a Marathon" series, all about getting you through training and to the start line of your first or next 26.2-mile race. Whether you're training for your first, your fastest, or your funnest, we're here to help you reach your goals. Who's "we?" On this series, I'll be talking with runners about their training and races, as well as experts who can answer all of your questions about training, fueling, and just how many 20-mile runs you should be doing before you start to taper.

The series kicks off with Olympian Alexi Pappas. Alexi is a middle-distance runner turned marathoner. She made her 26.2-mile debut at the 2018 Chicago Marathon, and on this episode, she's honest about how humbling this distance is for runners of all levels. She talks about her own fueling strategies, what she'll do differently leading up to her next race, and what advice she's received from the legendary Deena Kastor.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Why Alexi wanted to give the marathon a shot, and how she feels about owning the “marathoner” title (2:20)
What made Alexi’s first marathon “harder than it looks” (5:50)
Goal setting as a first-time marathoner (9:30)
On running and racing with Deena Kastor (14:30)
How Alexi felt when she finished her first marathon (17:30)
How and when Alexi decided to run a marathon (20:20)
What goes into Alexi’s marathon training plan (24:20)
On fueling and nutrition (33:25)
What is Alexi thinking about when she’s racing? (40:50)

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162. Allie Ostrander, Professional Runner for Brooks Running Aug 14, 2019

"It’s still really unreal to me that I get paid to run. Running is something that I would do anyway. It’s not a job, it’s just a good time!"

It's been a big summer for Allie Ostrander. The Alaska native graduated from Boise State University, signed her first professional running contract with Brooks Running, and made her pro debut at USA Track & Field Nationals, where she finished fourth in the 3000m steeplechase, landing her a spot on the U.S. team headed to world championships in Doha next month. On this episode, Allie talks about the process of going pro, how she became a steeplechaser, what her first pro race was like, and what's next.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Allie recaps her fourth-place finish at USATF Nationals (3:00)
What Allie’s training will look like between now and the world championships in Doha in September (7:30)
Allie’s decision to go pro, and why she chose to sign with Brooks Running (9:20)
Allie talks about her life on the trails (17:00)
What the transition from college to pro life has been like so far, and what Allie is most looking forward to with her new pro lifestyle (19:20)
Allie reflects on her road to going pro (26:00)
On that viral Instagram post (29:40)
Why the steeplechase? (38:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Emma Coburn on Episode 60 of the Ali on the Run Show

Pan American Games

NYRR Fifth Avenue Mile

Allie’s viral Instagram post

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161. Lauren Fleshman & Jesse Thomas Aug 07, 2019

"As an entrepreneur, just like an athlete, you have to be almost psychotically optimistic. You have to believe, ‘We can do this, we can make it back.’ You have to have that belief because there’s so much headwind."

Husband-and-wife team Lauren Fleshman and Jesse Thomas are the co-founders of Picky Bars and hosts of the Work, Play, Love podcast. Lauren is a former professional middle-distance and marathon runner who spent 13 years competing and is now a coach for Little Wing Athletics, and Jesse is a professional triathlete. On this episode, they get "really real" about parenthood (they have two children, Jude and Zadie) and the realities of trying to grow a business and a family simultaneously. They talk about resentment, balance, entrepreneurship, work challenges, and "the dark days."

And hey, Picky Bars are awesome! Click here and use code ONTHERUN for 30 percent off your order, plus an extra 30 percent off your first delivery of the Picky Club!

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Why Jesse is having an identity crisis right now (4:30)
On being able to laugh through the hard moments of parenting (12:40)
On resentment (20:00)
Lauren and Jesse share their take on the idea of balance (22:50)
On bringing home work stress when you’re an entrepreneur (28:40)
What Jesse remembers about the earliest weeks and months after becoming a dad (39:45)
On deciding to have a second child, and how Lauren and Jesse’s marriage changed after having children (48:00)
Lauren and Jesse answer a few listener questions (1:05:35)

What we mention on this episode:

Lauren on Episode 103 of the Ali on the Run Show

Challenge Roth

Range by David Epstein

Car Talk

Dear Sugars

Mel Lawrence

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160. Kaitlin Goodman, Professional Runner for the Boston Athletic Association Jul 31, 2019

“I didn’t really have the credentials to back up what I wanted to do. I just had a dream and a lot of passion and determination.”

If you don't already know it, remember the name Kaitlin Goodman. Kaitlin is a professional runner for the Boston Athletic Association and a run coach with a master's degree in public health. She's fast — and multifaceted. Kaitlin, who lives in Providence, RI, and trains in Boston, is a four-time Olympic Trials qualifier: She's qualified in the 5,000 meters, the 10,000 meters, and the marathon. (She runs a 2:32 marathon.) And although it's been a lifelong dream to become a professional runner, it hasn't all been smooth sailing and speedy running along the way. Kaitlin suffered a brutal injury while training for last year's New York City Marathon, and she eagerly opens up about what that physical and mental recovery process looked like. She talks about making goals, and what happens when you don't hit them, and she shares how she rebounds and grows from disappointing experiences. Kaitlin breaks down what, exactly, it means to be a professional runner, and talks about training alongside Molly Huddle and Emily Sisson.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Kaitlin talks about what it takes to be successful at a medley of distances, including the 5,000 meters, the 10,000 meters, and the marathon (4:15)
Was being a professional runner always the plan? Plus, the good, bad, and ugly of having a dad as a running coach (5:30)
What does it mean to try and go pro as a runner? (10:50, and again at 37:00)
The road to the 2016 Trials, and how race day went for Kaitlin (18:40)
How Kaitlin ended up in New England (31:20)
The brutal injury that sidelined Kaitlin while training for the 2018 TCS New York City Marathon (43:00)
What does it mean to run joyfully? (56:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Sara Hall on Episode 144 of the Ali on the Run Show

Peninsula Distance Club

Dena Evans

Steph Bruce on Episode 104 of the Ali on the Run Show

Lauren Fleshman on Episode 103 of the Ali on the Run Show

Falmouth Road Race

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159. Mirinda Carfrae, 3-Time Ironman World Champion Jul 24, 2019

"When you focus on yourself, you get the best results."

Mirinda "Rinny" Carfrae is a professional triathlete and three-time Ironman World Champion. On this episode, Rinny talks about her road to swim-bike-run domination, and how she went from a scrappy basketball player to the fastest woman in Kona. Rinny — who is from Brisbane, Australia, but now lives and trains in Boulder, CO — is a podium staple at both the Ironman and the Half-Ironman distance. She's also a mom to two-year-old Isabelle, and she's very candid about what it's like deciding to have a baby as a professional athlete. She talks about how her sponsors reacted — and what their support looked like — when she announced her pregnancy, and shares how she managed to train for an Ironman while breastfeeding. She talks about pre-race nerves, whether she'd ever ditch the swim and the bike to race a road marathon, and the time she overcame a 14-minute deficit off the bike to land the win in Kona. And of course, Rinny shares her big goals for 2019.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Rinny recaps her very successful month of 70.3 racing (2:40)
Rinny’s road to success, from basketball to Kona domination (8:20)
What it was like competing in Kona for the first time (15:45)
Why Rinny says having a baby helped her become a better cyclist (23:20)
All about Rinny’s at-home “Pain Cave” — including how it helped her breastfeed while training (24:15)
On making up time on the run during an Ironman or Half Ironman — including the time Rinny overcame a 14-minute deficit to snag the win in Kona (28:00)
What being a triathlete really consists of (36:00)
Would Rinny ever ditch the swim and the bike in favor of a road marathon? (40:00)
How Rinny ended up in Boulder (42:00)
How Rinny met her husband, Tim (45:00)
Rinny opens up about her decision to have a baby — plus how her sponsors reacted to the news (52:30)
On returning to training and competition after having Isabelle (58:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Siri Lindley

Technogym

Gwen Jorgensen on Episode 90 of the Ali on the Run Show

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158. Beatie Deutsch, National Marathon Champion of Israel Jul 17, 2019

"I pushed myself out of my comfort zone and discovered this tremendous strength that I had. It made me realize that so many of us have amazing gifts within us, but we’re sometimes scared to take that leap — so we don’t even realize what we’re capable of." —Beatie Deutsch

Beatie Deutsch is a 29-year-old Orthodox Jewish mom of five living in Israel, by way of New Jersey. And she's earned the nickname "Speedy Beatie" for a reason: Despite only picking up running a few years ago, Beatie runs a 2:42 marathon and a 1:17 half marathon. On this episode, she talks about what it's like being the National Marathon Champion of Israel, and breaks down her monumental Tiberias Marathon win, where she not only ran a 2:42, she ran a 27-minute personal best time in the process, negative splitting the race by six minutes. She talks about being an Orthodox Jewish woman and runner in 2019, explaining her race attire (she runs with her elbows, knees, and hair covered), her values, and what it's like looking different from other women on the starting line. Beatie is sponsored by Nike, and her current goal is to qualify to represent Israel in the 2020 Olympic Games in the marathon.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Beatie became “Speedy Beatie” (3:25)
On winning the Tiberias Marathon and running a 27-minute marathon PR in the process (4:15)
How Beatie became a runner (12:00)
How Beatie went from a 3:25 marathon to a 2:42 (22:00)
What it’s like to be an Orthodox Jewish runner in 2019 (29:00)
What it means to be sponsored by Nike (38:00)
Busting common misconceptions about the Orthodox Jewish community (40:20)
Beatie’s message to runners who think they don’t look like everyone else (46:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Tiberias Marathon

Jerusalem Marathon

Nike Vaporfly 4%

Hamburg Half Marathon

Free Solo

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157. Motherhood Mondays with Julia Berteletti and Laura Green Jul 14, 2019

"I’m wearing these massive pads that are like six inches deep and waddling around the house. I think I thought the first week would be rough. But it was a month out and I’m still rocking these massive pads. I was never told about that."

Every week on these Motherhood Mondays episodes, I've asked my guests, "Who's in your village?" I feel so lucky to be able to say that the two women on today's show — Laura Green and Julia Berteletti — are in my village. Laura lives in Boston, and is mom to 10-month-old Jack. She's a part-time physical therapist and the "community boss" for November Project, and is "very creative" about how she gets her work hours in while Jack does a part-time nanny share. Julia lives in Denver, CO, is mom to 8-month-old Max, and works full-time in an office while Max is in daycare. On this episode, we talk like we do every day, sharing perhaps too much about everything from breastfeeding, identity loss, and body image, to giving birth, relationships, emotional labor, and that first postpartum poop. We also talk about schedule-related anxiety, postpartum running, and guilt.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Getting to know Laura (3:00)
Getting to know Julia (8:20)
Breastfeeding and boob stuff (13:20)
How prepared did we feel for the postpartum period? (21:47)
Relationship stuff (35:00)
On postpartum running and body image (55:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Laura’s childbirth story via Wisconsin Notes

Kristin Mallon on Episode 136 of the Ali on the Run Show

Lauren Fleshman on Episode 103 of the Ali on the Run Show

Work, Play, Love with Lauren Fleshman and Jesse Thomas

Brogan Graham

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156. Sarah MacKay Robinson, Elite Runner Jul 10, 2019

"It’s not sexy, but all the little teeny tiny things add up. Invest in recovery, nutrition, and sleep. That’s where you’re going to see the big gains — even though it’s not as much fun to put on Instagram. You’ll see it pay off."

Sarah "Mac" Robinson is an elite runner, mom of two, and freelance brand storyteller. On this episode, she gets very candid about how her life — on the run and beyond — has changed since becoming a mom. She opens up about her experience with postpartum depression and anxiety, what life on medication has been like, and the stigmas surrounding postpartum mental health. She also talks about how she landed an Olympic Trials qualifying time in the marathon in 2016, what the road there was like, and what's next in her running life.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Sarah’s experience with postpartum anxiety and Zoloft (3:15)
Sarah’s running story — the high highs and low lows (20:10)
On trying — and trying again and again — to qualify for the U.S. Olympic Trials in the marathon (24:30)
On body image as an elite runner, both before and after having kids, and “skinny privilege” (34:10)
What Sarah’s running looks like these days (37:00)
Sarah’s career, how she found Oiselle, and what she’s up to professionally (42:20)
Sarah’s messages to moms and to runners working on big goals (51:40)

What we mention on this episode:

Sarah’s Instagram post about weaning off Zoloft

Stephanie Bruce on Episode 104 of the Ali on the Run Show

Lauren Fleshman on Episode 103 of the Ali on the Run Show

Oiselle Mac Roga short

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155. Motherhood Mondays with Dr. Molly Millwood, Clinical Psychologist Jul 07, 2019

"There's a fear of the foundation we're standing on having too many cracks in it."

Dr. Molly Millwood is a clinical psychologist and licensed psychotherapist specializing in marital therapy and intimate relationships. She's also the author of the just-released book, To Have and To Hold: Motherhood, Marriage, & the Modern Dilemma. On this episode, Dr. Millwood — a mom of two — expands on many of the new-mom-related topics she covers in her brilliant book, including guilt, shame, missing life before baby, marriage after baby, gender roles for new parents, and social media. Dr. Millwood lives in Vermont with her husband and two sons.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What tends to hold new moms back from going to therapy (8:00)
The shame and guilt surrounding new motherhood (13:00)
On missing “life before baby” (21:00)
Why no one is talking about what their romantic relationships are like after having a baby (25:00)
How couples can improve their communication when talking about tough stuff (34:30)
On expectations (40:20)
How social media affects new moms (44:50)
Some of the most common reasons women come to Molly for therapy (48:00)
What does a first-time therapy session actually look like? (54:00)

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154. Motherhood Mondays with Hitha Palepu, on Postpartum Depression, Breaking Points, & Parenting Unapologetically Jun 30, 2019

"You are never going to be the woman you were before, and that’s great. Because this woman you are now is so much stronger, more powerful, capable of doing so much more. But you’ve gotta give her some time and space to heal and figure things out a bit."

Hitha Palepu has many titles. She's an entrepreneur and the CEO of Rhosan Pharmaceuticals, the author of the book How to Pack: Travel Smart for Any Trip, an angel investor and advisor to women-led and women-focused start-ups, the creator of the blog Hitha on the Go, and the brains behind #5SmartReads on Instagram and in her popular weekly newsletter. She's also a mom to four-year-old Rho and seven-week-old Rhaki. On this episode, Hitha, who lives on Manhattan's Upper West Side, opens up about the realities of motherhood, her decision to have children (it wasn't a given!), and her experience with postpartum depression and antidepressants.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Getting to know Hitha — on the decision to have kids, having help, breastfeeding, and parenting unapologetically and gratefully (1:50)
On the transition from one kid to two, and how Hitha is doing right now (23:00)
On resentment (27:50)
Hitha’s experience with postpartum depression, and the breaking point that got her to therapy (33:00)
How Hitha “recalibrated her mental state” (42:30)
Talking “balance” and identity loss in motherhood (45:40)
Hitha’s take on mom guilt (52:40)
Hitha’s message for new moms (56:00)

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The Motherhood Center

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153. David Willey, Former Editor in Chief of Runner's World Jun 26, 2019

"If you are struggling, it does not mean that you are failing. It does not mean that you’re doing something wrong. It just means that you are coming up against some hurdles, whether they’re physical or mental or emotional, and it’s important to listen to those and try and understand what’s underneath them. But by no means do they imply that you’re not going to achieve your goal. You just need to see them as part of the process. Struggle is just as important as the elation and the sense of fulfillment that we all get after a great workout or a PR."

David Willey spent 14 years at the helm of Runner's World magazine. But after announcing his departure from the brand in 2017, David went off the grid. On this episode, David's back on the grid, opening up about what made life for the past two years "outlandishly fun, intentionally challenging, unexpectedly hard and depressing, and newly regenerating." David talks about his time at Runner's World — the highs, the lows, and the part of the job that had him ambushing runners on live television during the New York City Marathon — and talks about his take on the brand now. He talks about his old dog and his new dog (we both shed a few tears there), his battle with Lyme Disease, and how he fulfilled his decade-long dream of qualifying for the Boston Marathon.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How David got the job at Runner’s World, and why it was a dream job (3:45)
David looks back at his favorite Runner’s World covers, stories, and adventures (10:00)
Why David left Runner’s World after 14 years (18:40)
All about David’s “Moonshot Marathon” (24:30)
Why David says Runner’s World readers get so heated online (32:20)
What it’s like interviewing runners live on the course during the New York City Marathon broadcast (35:20)
Does David still read Runner’s World? (43:15)
David looks back on his time with his dog, Trucha, and his book proposal in the works (45:30)
On an unexpected battle with Lyme Disease (56:30)
David’s message to runners who are struggling right now (1:05:10)

What we mention on this episode:

Runner's World covers through the years

Mary Wittenberg on Episode 98 of the Ali on the Run Show

Joe Holder

Julia Lucas

"A Very Good Dog" — David's editor's letter about his dog, Trucha

Camp Canine

The Runner’s World Show podcast

The Human Race podcast

The Hive Life podcast

Neely Spence Gracey on Episode 42 of the Ali on the Run Show

Bayshore Marathon

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152. Motherhood Mondays with Sashea Lawson AKA Sassy Fit Girl Jun 23, 2019

"Everything I thought would happen did not happen."

Sashea Lawson is perhaps best known by her social media moniker: "Sassy Fit Girl." Sashea is a mom to 2.5-year-old Skye and three-month-old Marley, and on this episode she talks about what life is like right now as a toddler mom and newborn mom. She talks about why she's been so vocal about making a slow return to fitness after baby number two, and opens up about recovering from two c-sections, her first baby's emotional NICU stay, and the pressure she felt to breastfeed. Sashea, who has eight sisters and two brothers, owns and runs a marketing and entertainment company with her husband, and they live in West Orange, NJ.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Getting to know Sashea (1:30)
Did Sashea always know she wanted to be a mom? (8:30)
On recovering from two c-sections, and the importance of postpartum recovery (10:15)
How prepared did Sashea feel for the postpartum period? (20:30)
How Sashea’s feeling at three months postpartum (25:40)
What Sashea’s marriage is like since having kids (30:00)
A look at the highest highs and lowest lows of new motherhood, including a scary NICU stay (35:50)
Sashea’s message to moms in all stages (47:50)

What we mention on this episode:

Alysia Montaño on Instagram @alysiamontano

Velcro swaddles

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151. Jen Bigham AKA Local Elite Jun 19, 2019

"Be happy with your life! Run races that are exciting to you. Set goals that are exciting to you. Maybe it’s a goal that everyone in the world has. Maybe it’s something that no one has. It doesn’t matter. Just be true to yourself. If you’re setting these goals that aren’t for you, it’s not going to fulfill you in the end."

You may know Jen Bigham as the 2019 winner of the Eugene Marathon. You may also know her the way much of the internet does: as "Local Elite." (Her Instagram and Twitter handle is, appropriately, @localelite.) On this episode, Jen talks about what it means to be a local elite runner, and it's pretty impressive. Not only did Jen win Eugene this year, she ran a 10-minute marathon PR in the process, finishing in 2:41 and nabbing a well-deserved Olympic Trials qualifying time. The road to an OTQ wasn't an easy one for Jen, who has been trying to land one since 2010. On this episode, Jen, who runs for Oiselle and is a high school track and cross-country coach, talks about the highs and lows along that road, and the illnesses, injuries, and series setbacks she faced. She talks about going from a 3:14 marathon before having kids to becoming a 2:41 marathon as a mom of three, and opens up social media and that dreaded comparison trap.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What does “localelite” mean to Jen? (3:00)
What it felt like to win the Eugene Marathon, run a 10-minute marathon PR, and get that sought-after Olympic Trials qualifying time (4:30)
On getting faster after having kids (9:30)
The heartbreaks along the way to an OTQ (16:00)
Coming back from injury and illness (26:00)
The role social media plays when chasing down big goals (31:00)
On re-signing with Oiselle’s Haute Volee team (39:20)
On parenting and how Jen sets an example for her children (43:10)
Jen’s message to everyone chasing big goals (50:40)

What we mention on this episode:

Eugene Marathon

Grandma’s Marathon

California International Marathon (CIM)

State of Motherhood survey

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150. Motherhood Mondays with Jill Koziol & Liz Tenety, Co-Founders of Motherly Jun 17, 2019

"I wish I knew that it was normal to feel this way." —Jill Koziol

When Jill Koziol and Liz Tenety were new moms, they felt alone, terrified, and overwhelmed by this new adventure. Five — soon to be six — kids later (two for Jill, three with a fourth on the way for Liz), and Liz and Jill are the co-founders of Motherly, a website, community, and brand for moms in all stages of parenthood. With Jill as CEO, Liz as Chief Digital Officer, and a work-from-home team of 40 spread across the United States, Motherly sees more than 20 million monthly views, and is home to an active, engaged community. On this episode, Jill and Liz reflect on what new motherhood looked like for them, what it means to be motherly, and what they found in their second annual "State of Motherhood" survey.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Getting to know Jill and Liz (3:00)
Why Motherly needed to exist (11:30)
What were Jill and Liz like as new moms? (21:30)
A look at the State of Motherhood survey — what were the surprises and validations? (24:30)
“New-parent relationship tension stuff” (30:00)
Why 85 percent of millennial moms don’t feel understood or supported by society — and what we can do with that information (45:00)

What we mention on this episode:

This is Motherhood

Whitney Port on The Motherly Podcast

Simple Habit app

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149. The Women Reporting on Women's Running Jun 12, 2019

"There’s a lot of work that goes into this, and we take it really seriously." —Sarah Lorge Butler

Welcome to the first-ever Ali on the Run Show roundtable! I was thrilled and honored to get to have this conversation with four of the women leading the charge reporting on the women's running industry: Erin Strout (Women's Running), Sarah Lorge Butler (Runner's World), Lindsay Crouse (The New York Times), and Alison Wade (Fast Women). On this episode, we talk about what it's like covering professional women's running — both the highlights and the challenges. We talk about whether the four of them are competitive when it comes to breaking major stories, like Lindsay's recent "Dream Maternity" piece in the Times. They open up about their relationships with the best-known professional runners, and sound off on the current state of the industry as they see it. They also share their perspective on how to cover the industry critically and thoughtfully while also wanting to support runners of all abilities and advance the sport.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Are these women friends, competitors, or both? (4:45)
Lindsay talks about the reaction to her “Dream Maternity” stories (6:00)
Finding the balance between being critical and wanting to elevate and advance the industry (17:00)
How the Fast Women newsletter comes together every week (19:30)
On reading the comments (23:50)
What is the current state of the women’s running industry? (24:40)
Who do these women love interviewing, and what are their relationships with the pros like? (33:30)
What is the biggest struggle right now when it comes to covering women’s running? (48:30)
How to measure success in reporting (56:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Erin Strout on Episode 73 of the Ali on the Run Show

"Nike Told Me to Dream Crazy, Until I Wanted a Baby," by Lindsay Crouse for The New York Times

"Allyson Felix: My Own Nike Pregnancy Story," by Lindsay Crouse for The New York Times

"7 Pearls of Wisdom From a 103-Year-Old World Record Holder" via Women's Running

Lauren Fleshman on Episode 103 of the Ali on the Run Show

Des Linden on Episode 100 of the Ali on the Run Show

Sara Hall on Episode 144 of the Ali on the Run Show

"How the 'Shalane Flanagan Effect' Works," by Lindsay Crouse for The New York Times

"How Emily Infeld Cross-Trained Her Way to the Olympics," by Erin Strout for Runner's World

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148. April Cargill on Becoming a Marathoner at 50 Jun 06, 2019

"I thought oh, London Marathon, that sounds cute! So I signed up. And then I was like Paris Marathon? Oh my god, that sounds so cute, too. So I signed up for that, too."

In her twenties, April Cargill was a two-pack-a-day smoker working long days and staying up late nights in the fashion industry in New York City. Today, at 55, the Harlem native is a six-time marathoner on a quest to complete all six World Marathon Majors. On this episode, April — who is the director of production for designer Shoshanna Lonstein Gruss — talks about why she started running in her fifties, what finally got her to kick the smoking habit, and what it's like being a hard-working single mom.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What was 20-year-old April up to? (3:00)
What April’s job in the fashion industry is like (4:50)
How April got into a serious smoking habit — and found fitness when she quit (7:40)
What it was like starting running in her fifties, and the intimidation factor that came with it (23:00)
On joining November Project, and working out with her son, Aubrey (32:00)
April opens up about being a single mom (41:40)
How running has helped April get through tough times (47:11)

What we mention on this episode:

Project Start

Candice Huffine on Episode 11 of the Ali on the Run Show

Pratt Institute

John Honerkamp on Episode 4 of the Ali on the Run Show

Alison Desir on Episode 3 of the Ali on the Run Show

Harlem Run

April’s November Project post

Meaghan Murphy on Episode 113 of the Ali on the Run Show

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147. Jess Movold, Running & Strength Coach Jun 05, 2019

“He said, ‘I get it. The mountain’s too steep.’ And I said, ‘No. It’s just the wrong mountain.’”

Jess Movold is perhaps best known as the super positive, super uplifting, super kind and empowering run and strength coach at Mile High Run Club and The Fortitude Strength Club in NYC. She's the current face of Runner's World (check her out on the cover!), and is the official "Runner's World Coach." So surely the 3:13 marathoner and 1:29 half marathoner from Missouri always envisioned this über-fit life for herself, right? Not quite. Jess began her career in the fashion industry, and she has stories that rival the ones in The Devil Wears Prada. On this episode, she shares her journey from high fashion to ultramarathons, and it's one that's packed with endearing and hilarious stories along the way — including the best "nothing new on race day" story I've ever heard. Up next: Jess wants to break three hours at the Berlin Marathon.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How it feels to see herself on the cover of Runner’s World (2:55)
How Jess got her start in the fashion industry — and found running along the way (7:00)
The crazy stories about what being an executive assistant in the high-fashion industry looked like for Jess (31:00)
Why Jess left the fashion industry and went all-in on fitness instead (41:15)

What we mention on this episode:

The Fort

Mile High Run Club

"The Workout That Helped This Runner Trim 20 Minutes Off Her Marathon Time" via Well+Good

The Speed Project

The Great New York 100 Mile Running Exposition

Falmouth Road Race

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146. Motherhood Mondays with Kate Parker, Author of Strong is the New Pretty Jun 02, 2019

"It's not a girl message, and it's not a boy message. It's a human message. It's about celebrating who you are, whatever you are."

Kate T. Parker is the photographer and author behind the best-selling books Strong is the New Pretty and The Heart of a Boy. Her message for children is profoundly simple: You, just as you are, are worthy. You don't need to change who you are. Kids should feel strong and empowered being whoever they are. They should be accepted for staying true to themselves, whatever that looks like. Kate, a mom of two girls (Ella, 14, and Alice, 10) in Atlanta, GA, had a revelation a few years ago while taking photos of her kids. The photos weren't stereotypically "pretty" and posed, and the girls weren't sitting, smiling, wearing matching bows and dresses. They were messy. They were loud. They silly. And Kate wanted to make sure they always embraced that spirit. On this episode, Kate talks about the failure and rejection she experienced on the way to viral success, and talks about the moments when she knew the Strong is the New Pretty movement was making an impact. (They involve a Tweet from Emma Watson, and a DM exchange with David Beckham.) Kate, who is also a multiple-time triathlete and Ironman, opens up about what it's like when your middle school-aged daughter is dealing with bullying or mean girls, and talks about what she's doing to raise strong, confident children.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

On the highs, the worries, and the stress and loneliness of new motherhood (3:00)
All about Strong is the New Pretty (11:15)
All about The Heart of a Boy (35:15)
The story behind Kate’s Blended project (40:40)
Kate’s advice for raising confident children (42:40)
Kate looks back on what new motherhood looked like for her (45:15)

What we mention on this episode:

Strong is the New Pretty

The Heart of a Boy

Strong is the New Pretty Journal

Kate's Disney campaign

BLENDED

Scary Mommy

A Mighty Girl on Facebook

Meaghan Murphy on Episode 113 of the Ali on the Run Show

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145. Leigh Anne Sharek, Co-Founder of Brooklyn Track Club May 29, 2019

"It took a while — a lot of runs, a lot of soul searching — to have this confidence now to just show up and say, 'I've earned this. I deserve to be here. I've put in the work to be in this spot.'"

Leigh Anne Sharek is the co-founder of the Brooklyn Track Club, which started as an idea a few years ago and has since grown to nearly 250 members. She's the co-host of the Runners of NYC podcast, she's a sub-five-minute miler, and she's a forensic scientist for New York City's chief medical examiner. (So cool!) On this episode, Leigh Anne talks about going from a 4-hour marathon to a 2:41 marathon, and nabbing an Olympic Trials qualifying time. She talks about running with faster people and what it's like when you realize you're fast, and she shares some oh-so-relatable feelings about showing up to her first group run. Leigh Anne, a former gymnast, has become a well-known face on the NYC running scene, and was named one of New York Road Runners' Runners of the Year last year. So what's it like moving up to the front of the pack and racing alongside the pros? Leigh Anne lets us know, and talks about the great state of the women's running community in New York City right now.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

On going from a 4-hour marathon to a 2:41 Olympic Trials Qualifier (4:20)
Leigh Anne’s take on having a chill approach to running and racing, and on finding her place at the front of the pack (13:25)
Where the pressure to run well comes from (20:45)
The birth and growth of Brooklyn Track Club (22:30)
What it was like qualifying for the Olympic Trials (35:45)
Leigh Anne’s hopes and dreams for Brooklyn Track Club (43:00)
All about life as a forensic scientist, including how Leigh Anne got into the field (44:30)
Leigh Anne’s advice for conquering big goals (51:10)

What we mention on this episode:

Leigh Anne Sharek on Episode 129 of the Ali on the Run Show

Pace University

Sarah Cummings on Episode 112 of the Ali on the Run Show

NYCRUNS

Nike Run Club

Steve Finley

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144. Sara & Ryan Hall May 22, 2019

“We’re distance runners. We know how to dig in with hard stuff and persevere.”

Sara and Ryan Hall are one of the best-known couples in the running industry. Ryan is a retired professional runner: He holds the American record in both the half marathon (59:43) and marathon (2:04:58), and represented the United States at both the 2008 and 2012 Olympic games. Today, he's a coach, he's spending a ton of time bulking up in the gym, and he just published his latest book, Run the Mile You're In. Sara is a professional middle-distance-turned-long-distance runner, who holds a 2:26 marathon PR and has her eyes set on the 2020 Olympic Marathon Trials. On this episode, Sara and Ryan talk candidly about their marriage, what they fight about, and what it's like being coached by your spouse. Ryan is Sara's coach, and they were very honest about what it's like for each of them when Sara doesn't have a good race or workout. They also talk about adopting their four daughters from Ethiopia, and take a trip down memory lane sharing their love story, from first sushi date to proposal to becoming parents.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What the Halls are celebrating right now (3:50)
Sara talks about what it’s like being coached by her husband — and a glimpse at what they fight about in their relationship (4:40)
Ryan and Sara’s love story, including who made the first move, the first kiss, how Ryan proposed, and the roles running and religion have played in their relationship (13:30)
Sara and Ryan’s adoption story (23:35)
How prepared did Sara and Ryan feel for parenthood, and what were their expectations? Plus, how they support and encourage their daughters when it comes to running (30:40)
Fast Ryan or Ripped Ryan? Sara tells all! (45:15)
What Ryan’s decision to retire meant for the Hall family (49:15)
How Sara has gotten faster over the past few years (50:45)
What’s next for the Halls? (58:10)

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Run the Mile You’re In

American College of OB/GYN Patient Education Portal

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143. Motherhood Mondays with Dr. Taraneh Shirazian, OB/GYN & President of Saving Mothers May 19, 2019

“Women are dying of causes that should not kill them in 2019.”

Dr. Taraneh Shirazian is a board-certified OB/GYN and surgeon practicing at NYU Langone Medical Center in New York City, where she's also the Director of Global Women's Health at NYU's College of Global Public Health. In 2009, Dr. Shirazian created the Saving Mothers nonprofit organization, whose goal is to lower the global rate of maternal deaths. Currently, 350,000 women worldwide die due to pregnancy and childbirth complications. That's one mother dying every two minutes. On this episode, we talk about the important work Saving Mothers is doing to further women's empowerment and patient advocacy during pregnancy and childbirth, and we discuss why, exactly, so many women are dying this way, particularly women of color. Dr. Shirazian, a mom of two, also talks about her newest venture, Mommy Matters, which directly supports Saving Mothers.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Why Dr. Shirazian says doctors make the worst patients (5:15)
Why are so many women dying during childbirth? (7:45)
All about Saving Mothers (12:30)
Why are so many women dying during childbirth in New York City? Plus, the racial disparities involved with maternal deaths (17:00)
Shirazian’s recommended resources for pregnant women (23:00)
How to support Saving Mothers (24:30)
All about Mommy Matters (27:20)
Shirazian’s message to moms in all stages of motherhood, plus what she remembers about her own experience as a new mom (35:50)
On returning to work post-baby (41:30)

What we mention on this episode:

Saving Mothers

Mommy Matters

Run the TCS New York City Marathon for Saving Mothers

Mommy Matters ergonomic pillow

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142. Jen Ator, Women's Running Editor in Chief May 15, 2019

"You really can do anything. That doesn’t mean it’s going to be easy and that doesn’t mean it’s not going to be without sacrifice. It also doesn’t mean you’re going to be a rockstar at it. But you can do anything if you’re willing to put yourself out there and really risk failing in a huge way."

Last month, Jen Ator was hired as the new editor in chief of Women's Running. Before joining WR, Jen was the longtime fitness director at Women's Health. On this episode, Jen talks about her decision to leave one dream job for another, and shares her hopes, dreams, and big plans for Women's Running. She shares her running story, including the heartbreaking knee injury that sidelined her just as she was hitting her running groove. Plus, she shares her advice for getting through some "really tough days." Jen also talks about the opportunity of a lifetime: getting to race Ironman Kona with training partner and Olympic speed skater Apolo Ohno. She talks about her friendship with Deena Kastor, how her approach to exercise has changed over the past few years, and her book, The Fitness Fix.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How it feels to get to say “I’m an editor in chief” Plus, Jen opens up about her decision to leave one dream job for another (3:30)
Jen’s hopes, dreams, plans, and goals for Women’s Running — and is anything off-limits? (9:15)
What does the editor in chief job entail? (16:20)
Jen reflects on her time at Women’s Health, and how she rose through the ranks and really proved herself to a tough editor in chief (30:00)
Jen’s running story — how she went from college lacrosse player to runner to devastating ACL injury to competing at Ironman Kona alongside Apolo Ohno (39:30)
On dealing with imposter syndrome leading up to Ironman Kona (54:30)
What’s next for Jen? (1:01:10)

What we mention on this episode:

Liz Plosser on Episode 72 of the Ali on the Run Show

Erin Strout on Episode 73 of the Ali on the Run Show

Roz Frazier on Episode 135 of the Ali on the Run Show

The Women's Health Fitness Fix by Jen Ator

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141. Motherhood Mondays with Colleen Lubin, Creator of Not Quite Knocked Up May 13, 2019

"I tried to float somewhere between hopeful and hopeless."

Colleen Lubin's story is one of a tremendous amount of loss — and, ultimately, one of resiliency and strength. All her life, Colleen dreamed of becoming a mom. But, like the 6.1 million women in the United States who struggle with infertility, the road to having a baby wasn't easy for Colleen, who created the blog "Not Quite Knocked Up" to document her journey. (It's a must-read for those trying to conceive and those in the throes of new motherhood.)

In the span of three years, Colleen suffered five miscarriages (including both a chemical pregnancy and an ectopic pregnancy) and two failed IVF treatments. The sixth time she found out she was pregnant — the one that would stick — was the day after her dad died unexpectedly. Today, Colleen is mom to nine-month-old Liam, and she's been open, honest, and very candid about her road to pregnancy, what pregnancy after loss is like, and what it was like going into labor six weeks early, six hours away from home.

I am sending so much love and light to all the women out there this Mother's Day. Whether your day was celebratory or difficult, I am here for you. If I've learned anything as a new mom, it's that moms in all stages have each others' backs. I have yours.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Did Colleen always know she wanted to be a mom? (4:00)
Did Colleen expect the road to motherhood to be easy? (5:50)
Colleen opens up about her long road to having a baby (9:40)
The emotional side of suffering multiple miscarriages (20:20)
Colleen’s take on what to say — and what not to say — to women struggling with infertility, miscarriage, and loss (24:00)
Colleen’s IVF journey (31:00)
The toll five miscarriages and two failed rounds of IVF took on Colleen’s marriage (40:00)
Colleen’s reaction when she found out she was pregnant — the day after her dad passed away unexpectedly (45:35)
Colleen’s message to women struggling with infertility, miscarriage, or loss (57:00)
On having a baby six weeks early, six hours from home (1:00:03)
On guilt, shame, and inadequacy (1:04:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Kristin Mallon on Episode 136 of the Ali on the Run Show

Abby Bales on Episode 139 of the Ali on the Run Show

RESOLVE: The National Infertility Association

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140. Carolyn Su, Creator of @diversewerun May 08, 2019

"Take assessment of who you feel more comfortable making eye contact with."

Carolyn Su is the creator of the @diversewerun Instagram account, where she shares inspiring stories from runners from all backgrounds. Carolyn, who is a Taiwanese-American daughter of immigrant parents and was born and raised in Texas, is a strong voice advocating for more diversity and representation within the running community. On this episode, Carolyn — who is a mom of two living with her husband and kids in Boston, MA — talks about her foray into running and how having an eating disorder in high school and college factored into her running journey. She also talks about how we can all advocate for more diversity and inclusion within the running community. A must-listen!

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Carolyn became a runner — and how an eating disorder factored in (7:10)
Carolyn’s road to recovery from her eating disorder (13:30)
Why Carolyn ran her first marathon (16:40)
Did Carolyn’s family support her running? (22:20)
What it was like growing up as an Asian-American daughter of immigrants in Houston, TX (25:41)
Why Carolyn started the @diversewerun Instagram account (35:44)
What can I — a basic white girl with a community — do to encourage more diversity in running and amplify these voices from men and women of color? (46:00)
Carolyn’s advice for modeling good behavior for our kids, and how to teach young people about race (53:45)

What we mention on this episode:

Women Behind the Mic LIVE in Boston

Chris Mosier on Episode 13 of the Ali on the Run Show

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139. Motherhood Mondays with Abby Bales, Pelvic Floor Physical Therapist May 05, 2019

"There are a lot of people who put a lot of pressure on themselves — maybe you, maybe me — to do it all. So if you do have problems postpartum, we can treat that at seven months, we can treat that at three years, we can treat it when you're ready. I want to treat my moms when they're ready — not when they're feeling overwhelmed."

Dr. Abigail Bales is the founder of Reform Physical Therapy in New York City, where she specializes in pregnancy and postpartum rehabilitation, primarily focused on pelvic floor health. In this episode, Abby, who is a board-certified licensed physical therapist, breaks down everything you need to know about the pelvic floor in an easy to understand way. She talks about exercise modifications during and after pregnancy, and explains why peeing yourself after giving birth is "common, not normal." Abby, who is a mom of two (Henry, 5, and Caitlyn, almost 2), also talks about mothering with a chronic illness (ulcerative colitis), her experience with postpartum depression, what her marriage was like after having children, body image, breastfeeding, going back to work after baby, and learning to ask for help.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What exactly does a pelvic floor physical therapist do? (4:00)
Signs you may have a weak pelvic floor, and when people should see a pelvic floor physical therapist (7:00)
What to know about exercise modifications during pregnancy (8:30)
Why, no, peeing yourself after pregnancy isn’t normal according to Dr. Abby (14:30)
Why I didn’t see Abby after giving birth — and her response to my confession (19:20)
How having a chronic illness has affected Abby during her pregnancies and in motherhood (25:45)
Abby’s experience with postpartum depression after her second baby (30:00)
Abby reflects on new motherhood, marriage, and body stuff (35:00)
On going back to work after having babies (41:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Abby on Episode 49 of the Ali on the Run Show

Reform Physical Therapy

The ACSM pregnancy guidelines

Antony Lo

PelvicRehab.com

Global Pelvic Health Alliance directory

Sara Blakely on Instagram

Jenny Mollen on Instagram

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138. Lindsey Hein BONUS EPISODE May 03, 2019

"I was smiling the whole time — even when it hurt really bad. I was so happy and thankful to be out there."

Lindsey Hein, host of I'll Have Another with Lindsey Hein, is a returning guest on the Ali on the Run Show. Last month, Lindsey and I — along with fellow podcast hosts Carrie Tollefson and Tina Muir — did a live show during Boston Marathon weekend. But we wanted to keep the fun going! So Lindsey and I reconvened this week to talk about how Lindsey's Boston Marathon went (her first postpartum race since having baby number four!), what her training leading up to Boston looked like, and what's next on her race calendar. Then, we talk all things podcasting, including our most-downloaded episodes, biggest surprises, and rejections.

Thank you to the New York Road Runners Virtual Dog Jog 5K for sponsoring this episode of the Ali on the Run Show! CLICK HERE to register (it’s free!) and complete your run today. Everybody’s doing it!

What you’ll get on this episode:

Lindsey reflects on the 2019 Boston Marathon, including her training leading up to the race and how race day went (2:40)
Is there pressure that comes with knowing people are tracking you and following along during races? Plus, what’s next on Lindsey’s race calendar (17:00)
Lindsey’s expert advice for a 4-ish-hour marathoner who wants to maybe Boston Qualify someday (22:00)
Rehashing the Boston live show (28:30)
Lindsey chats all things podcasting, including her most popular episodes, the potential guest who turned her down, and dream guests (34:35)
Lindsey’s take on the current state of the running podcast world (45:00)
How Lindsey gets it all done (52:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Lindsey on Episode 37 of the Ali on the Run Show

Women Behind the Mic LIVE in Boston

Heather Jensen on I’ll Have Another with Lindsey Hein

Mary Johnson

Ashley Fizzarotti

Kristen Garzone on I’ll Have Another with Lindsey Hein

Amelia Gapin on I’ll Have Another with Lindsey Hein

Just Mercy by Bryan Stevenson

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137. Grace Atwood, Creator of The Stripe May 01, 2019

"I was like, really?! I just launched a podcast, I have a live show coming up, I grew my blog, I’m killing myself to kill it in my career — and you’re going to congratulate me on this? On being out at a bar with a cute guy? Do not congratulate me for having a boyfriend!"

Grace Atwood is the creator of the wildly popular blog The Stripe and the co-host of the Bad on Paper podcast. With more than 110,000 followers on Instagram, it's safe to say Grace, who is also a multiple-time marathoner, has made it as a successful full-time blogger and influencer — but that was never the goal or the plan, and when she first dove head-first into full-time blogging, Grace was embarrassed to own the title. But now, not only does she own it, she's also vocal about the hard work that goes into this lifestyle. (Turns out, it's not all glamorous photo shoots and exotic press trips.) On this episode, Grace talks about shifting her career from marketing at P&G to late nights at BaubleBar to a Gossip Girl-inspired DIY site that eventually became a six-figure business. She talks about learning the business side of blogging, about what takes up most of her time (hint: "Where's that from?"), and about everything you ever wanted to know about the lives of your favorite Instagrammers and bloggers. She keeps it real, light, and hilarious.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Was going into business for herself always Grace’s vision? (2:45)
The road to becoming a full-time blogger (8:00)
How Grace grew her site and her brand, and how she learned the business side of blogging (18:00)
What a day in the life of an influencer is actually like (25:00)
Grace on dating, marriage, and whether or not she wants kids — and how her readers have reacted to her personal opinions (36:00)
The very lucrative offer Grace recently turned down (44:40)
On podcasting, confidence, and body positivity (50:00)
Grace the runner! (58:00)

What we mention on this episode:

A Day in Her Life series on The Stripe

Girls Gotta Eat

The Correct Order to Apply Your Skincare Products via The Stripe

167 Raw

The Devil in the White City

The Idea of You

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136. Motherhood Mondays with Kristin Mallon, Certified Nurse Midwife Apr 28, 2019

"We talk so much about the physical changes — but I wish we talked more about the emotional pieces in pregnancy."

Welcome to the first episode in a 10-part Motherhood Mondays series on the Ali on the Run Show. The minute I found out I was pregnant in February 2018, my brain was consumed with all things pregnancy, childbirth, and Buy Buy Baby coupons. But once I gave birth, my world was rocked. I'd prepared for pregnancy, but had no idea what I was in for when it came to new motherhood. The breastfeeding, the hormones, the hair loss, the sleep deprivation — all things people had told me about, but that I don't think I ever could have fully prepared for. And so I struggled — hard. I've been at this new mom thing for six months now, and while I'm no expert, many of the guests on this series are. This series is all about new motherhood: the struggles, the intensity, the big wins, and little victories. It's a judgment-free, no-such-thing-as-TMI look at survival mode, thriving mode, and everything in between.

First up: Kristin Mallon, a board certified nurse midwife and founder of Integrative Obstetrics in Jersey City, NJ, who has delivered more than 4,000 babies in her 16 years of experience. Kristin is a mom of four and a four-time marathoner — and she was my midwife! I had an amazing pregnancy and delivery under Kristin's care, and I'm thrilled to welcome her to the show.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Kristin became a midwife, and what the difference is between an OB/GYN and a midwife (3:30)
Common misconceptions about midwifery (8:05)
Who might want to consider using a midwife during pregnancy and delivery? (11:00)
On first-time moms and pregnancy FAQs (13:55)
Kristin’s top dos and don’ts during pregnancy (18:10)
What Kristin wants to say to women trying to get pregnant after miscarriage or loss (22:20)
How to advocate for yourself during pregnancy (25:00)
All about “birth plans” and birth disappointment (31:30)
What is a midwife’s role during the childbirth process? (41:00)
On pooping and tearing (46:00)
What women and their partners should understand about recovering from childbirth — physically and mentally (48:30)
What Kristin’s four birth experiences were like (54:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Integrative Obstetrics

Expecting Better by Emily Oster

Pregnancy, Childbirth, and the Newborn by Penny Simkin

Ovia Health app

The Birth Partner

Vibrant Beginnings prenatal and postnatal supplements

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135. Rozalynn Frazier, Health Magazine Senior Fitness Editor Apr 24, 2019

"I’m in a position where I can help make decisions that put images out there of diverse people. That’s very special, and it’s an important job."

Rozalynn "Roz" Frazier is the senior health editor at Health magazine, where she's worked for the past decade. On this episode, Roz talks about breaking into the publishing industry (and that time she interviewed a mostly unknown-at-the-time Alicia Keys while working at Essence), and everything that comes with being a fitness editor. She talks about the state of the fitness industry, and her mission to get more women of varying shapes, sizes, and colors represented. And she shares her running story: how she got started, what her road to becoming a ten-time marathoner has looked like, and what's up with everyone's obsession with time goals. Finally, Roz — a self-proclaimed sneakerhead — shares her favorite gear picks, from sports bras to shorts to her favorite shoes for every distance.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Roz shares her career journey from college to Essence to her current position at Health (3:25)
On confidence, maturity, and getting cut from the soccer team (13:30)
What’s kept Roz at Health for 10 years? And how she’s advocating for diversity on the job, in the industry, and beyond (16:20)
All about press trips — the amazing, the Alps, and the “no thanks” (23:00)
How Roz’s workouts have changed over the past 10 years — and how a journalism class assignment made her want to run a marathon (34:45)
That time Roz hung out with little-known-at-the-time Alicia Keys (57:15)

What we mention on this episode:

Coach Cane

Columbia Publishing Course

Finish Line Physical Therapy

Brooks Greenlight 7" Short Tights

Nike Epic Luxe Tight

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134. Women Behind the Mic LIVE in Boston Apr 22, 2019

"This community brought me back to life."

I was thrilled to share the Generation UCAN stage during Boston Marathon weekend alongside fellow running podcast hosts Lindsey Hein of I'll Have Another, Tina Muir of Running For Real, and Carrie Tollefson of C Tolle Run. We sold out more than 600 tickets to this show in just a few days — a true testament to this amazing and supportive community. We had so much fun together and loved meeting everyone in the audience. Thank you to everyone who joined us in person, congratulations to everyone who ran Boston (including Lindsey and Tina!), and YAY for another live show in the books. Enjoy!

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133. Melisse Gelula, Co-Founder of Well+Good Apr 17, 2019

"If there could be a dining critic, a theater critic…why couldn’t there be a wellness critic?" —Melisse Gelula

Melisse Gelula is the co-founder of the health and fitness mega-brand Well+Good. On this episode, she talks about starting — and growing — something you believe in, and how Well+Good went from an idea to fill a hole in the publishing industry to a brand reaching more than 12 million readers every month. She talks about Well+Good's focus, and why it's more than green juice and SoulCycle but isn't weight loss or looking a certain way, and talks passionately about why wellness should be taken seriously.

Big congratulations to Melisse and the Well+Good team for the launch of the Well+Good Cookbook. Head to my Instagram — @aliontherun1 — for your chance to win a copy!

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Was Melisse’s plan always to be a journalist? Plus how Well+Good became a reality (5:00)
How Melisse got people to take a wellness website seriously (13:45)
What Well+Good looks like now (18:30)
What wellness-related things people are obsessed with right now (21:40)
What is it like to work at Well+Good? (28:00)
Looking at the wellness industry as an inclusive place, and what is there for people who can’t afford the fancy green juices and SoulCycle classes? (39:45)
All about Well+Good’s annual Wellness Trends (43:00)
What’s next for Well+Good? (47:40)

What we mention on this episode:

Well+Good in The New York Times

Well+Good Cookbook

The Best and Worst Nutrition Bars via Well+Good

Well+Good's 2019 Wellness Trends

Expo West

Forward Space

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132. Kate Landau, 2:33 Marathoner Apr 10, 2019

"I had never been driven by my own desire to get help. It was always other people pushing me to do it. Once I decided on my own and hit that rock bottom, everything got better very quickly." —Kate Landau

Kate Landau is a 42-year-old single mom and physician's assistant living in Florida with her daughter, Grace. She's also a 2:33 marathoner. But the road to becoming an elite-level runner in her forties hasn't been easy for Kate, who is set to run the Boston Marathon this Monday (and is gunning for a "2:30-ish" time). Kate started running competitively as a young age, and was a star athlete at her high school. She competed in the Junior Olympics and graduated as valedictorian of her class. But, not wanting her running progress to be halted by puberty, Kate dove headfirst into an aggressive eating disorder, which became a mainstay in her life for nearly 20 years. She endured more than 25 stress fractures in seven years, and battled serious exercise addiction.

It wasn't until after having Grace that Kate started to run again — and run fast. She won the Eugene Marathon last year, and the Miami Marathon earlier this year. She finished eighth at the 2018 Chicago Marathon, and was the third American female to finish. At the USATF 15K championships, Kate came in fourth — and she was the oldest in the top 10 by more than a decade. Next year, she'll compete at the 2020 Olympic Trials in the marathon. On this episode, Kate talks openly about her history with anorexia and how it shaped her life, and talks about her relationship with competition and why she always wanted to "be the best."

If you or someone you know is currently suffering from or struggling with an eating disorder, please click here for help and support.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What the road to a 2:33 marathon looks like, including how Kate got into competitive running at a young age (3:45)
Kate opens up about her long history with an eating disorder, including lying to the New York Times (11:55)
Kate’s eating disorder road to recovery (19:15)
Kate’s advice for men and women struggling with eating disorders (31:20)
How Kate’s relationship with her body changed during and after pregnancy (35:00)
How Kate got back into competitive running after having her daughter (40:00)
Kate shares her 2019 Boston Marathon goals (47:15)

What we mention on this episode:

Kate in the New York Times

Tacoma City Marathon

McKirdy Trained

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131. The Fifth Trimester Apr 03, 2019

"I wanted to hug my former self. I wanted to tell her, 'It's OK! It's going to be OK. It won't be easy, but you will survive this.'"

A few months ago, I recorded a solo episode talking about navigating "The Fourth Trimester." I was having a tough time — that was obvious. But then I learned: There's a "Fifth Trimester!" And that's the stage I'm in now, as I navigate life with a baby beyond the first 12 weeks and settle into a routine, a work life, and, well, some fun. On this episode, I'm talking about how parenthood has gone from terrifying to fun in the past month — and how getting to music class was a major catalyst in that crucial shift. Annie is five and a half months old now, and I can officially say we're having a blast. It's still hard sometimes, but being a mom to the coolest kid I know is pretty awesome. I'm also reflecting on loneliness, and the guilt associated with feeling lonely when, in theory, I had everything I needed. Plus, thoughts on the comparison trap, being a work-from-home mom, and the new Ali on the Run Show "Motherhood Mondays" series!

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What I mention on this episode:

"A Message From Ali" Episode 118 of the Ali on the Run Show

"The Fourth Trimester" Episode 114 of the Ali on the Run Show

"I Had a Baby!" Episode 106 of the Ali on the Run Show

NYC Half Marathon Recap

NYC Half Marathon Live Show

Taking Cara Babies Newborn Class

Annie & Ellie blog post

Mary Johnson on Ali & the Experts Week

Brynn Fessette O'Neill on Ali & the Experts Week

Brian's Great Turkey Trot of 2014 on the Ali on the Run Show

Chris Heuisler on Episode 6 of the Ali on the Run Show

Chris Mosier on Episode 13 of the Ali on the Run Show

Andrea Barber on Episode 45 of the Ali on the Run Show

Des Linden on Episode 100 of the Ali on the Run Show

Sarah Sellers on Episode 69 of the Ali on the Run Show

Boston live show

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130. Sadie Lincoln, Founder of Barre3 Mar 27, 2019

"Numbers don’t mean anything when it comes to success." —Sadie Lincoln

Sadie Lincoln is the co-founder and CEO of Barre3, the mega-popular boutique fitness brand that has more than 130 studios in the United States. On this episode, Sadie talks about being a "former hippie kid," the unconventional way she was raised, and how that shaped her as a student and, eventually, an entrepreneur. She shares the story of how she discovered fitness in college, and how she went on to realize she was working out for all the wrong reasons, leading to burnout and a much-needed change of scenery. She shares her stories of resilience and grit, confidence and failure, and loneliness, connection, and community. She talks about what stresses her out, about why, despite having trained Madonna, she's "not a celebrity trainer," and her husband's grand plan to sell everything they own and move to Portland, OR, with their two toddlers to "start fresh."

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Sadie talks about her “hippie kid” upbringing and why she was self-conscious about not being smart (3:00)
How Sadie found fitness, and how she made a career out of it (14:20)
On starting a family, Sadie’s husband’s grand plan, and loneliness (21:10)
What it was like starting over (35:15)
Sadie’s advice on finding your dream job and life (37:30)
Sadie shares what stresses her out (43:20)
On training Madonna, and why Sadie says she’s not a celebrity trainer (47:00)
How Sadie measures success (51:45)

What we mention on this episode:

Barre3

Sadie on How I Built This

24 Hour Fitness

The Enneagram test

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129. LIVE at the United Airlines NYC Half Mar 19, 2019

"Start stuff. If you believe in something, just start it." —Mary Wittenberg

It was an honor to host this live show at New York Road Runners the day before the United Airlines NYC Half. I was joined by four exemplary leaders in the running community: Mary Wittenberg, former NYRR and Virgin Sport president and CEO; Christine Burke, VP of Strategic Partnerships and Runner Products at NYRR; Leigh Anne Sharek, co-founder of Brooklyn Track Club; and Carly Gill, a 2:47 marathoner and one of the women behind Runner Braids. These women candidly shared their stories of success, failure, and what it's like to feel shaken to your core or rattled with insecurity. They talked about starting movements, social media, FOMO, and dealing with injury, and we talked about how to make running more inclusive. We wrapped it all up with a very special audience-participation-required edition of the Sprint to the Finish.

Thanks to New York Road Runners for sponsoring and hosting this live show, which took place at the NYRR RUNCENTER Featuring the New Balance Run Hub. Go to nyrr.org/runcenter for a full calendar of FREE events like the Ali on the Run Show LIVE event, plus group fitness classes, themed group runs, course strategy sessions, and book signings.

What you’ll get on this episode:

The significant moments in women’s running that have most inspired the women on the panel (4:00)
On getting into running at a young age, and whether it was discouraged or encouraged (7:30)
Running as an individual pursuit vs. team sport (11:00)
On pink at women’s races (14:00)
How do we make running more diverse and inclusive? (21:00)
On insecurities and failures (28:30)
Reflecting on the running industry and ourselves as runners (36:00)
What do we wish men understood about being a female runner? (46:00)
The downsides of social media in the running world, and falling into the comparison trap (49:10)
What’s next for everyone? (54:00)
A very special Sprint to the Finish (56:45)

Stuff we mention on this episode:

Shape Half Marathon

Alison Desir & Harlem Run

Brooklyn Track Club

United Airlines NYC Half Marathon

Strava (use code ONTHERUN for a FREE month of Strava Summit!)

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128. Ali & the Experts Week with Dr. Nicole Detling, Sports Psychologist Mar 12, 2019

"Be honest, be real, be vulnerable. That's how you find your mental toughness." —Dr. Nicole Detling

This episode will change your life on the run. It's a bold statement, I know, but Dr. Nicole Detling, the founder of Headstrong Consulting in Utah, is here to help us all improve our mental game. Dr. Detling is a mental performance coach for teams and athletes including the US Ski and Snowboard Association, Ballet West, tons of Olympians, and members of the PGA, MLB, NBA, NHL, and more. On this episode, she talks about building mental strength, getting through tough workouts and races, motivation, "chunking," tapping into your "why," coming back from a break, and the importance of rest days — both physical and mental. She also talks a lot about failure — why we fear it, what it actually means, and how social media factors into that fear of failure. We wrap up the episode by talking about exercise abuse.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Advice for training your brain on the run (4:30)
How to mentally prep for and thrive on race day (23:50)
General Q&A (45:33)

What we mention on this episode:

Don't Leave Your Mind Behind

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127. Ali & the Experts Week with Dr. Rachel Nazarian, Dermatologist Mar 11, 2019

"Hear my voice in your head when you start trying to dig out the cysts on your face." —Dr. Rachel Nazarian

Dr. Rachel Nazarian is a dermatologist at Schweiger Dermatology in New York City, and is an assistant clinical professor at Mount Sinai. On this episode, she dishes some real talk about skin, including everything she wants women to know about acne, cysts, and beauty influencers.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

General skincare and product Q&A (2:15)
All things acne (16:45)
Body stuff, like nipple hair, chin hair, and stretch marks (30:00)
Myth-busting (43:15)

What we mention on this episode:

Dove Beauty Bar

Cetaphil Cleanser

BioClarity Treatment System

VaniCream

Revision Skincare Intellishade SPF

Heliocare capsules

Vanish spot treatment

Mario Badescu skincare

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126. Ali & the Experts Week with Shannon McLay, Founder of The Financial Gym Mar 10, 2019

"Physical fitness and financial fitness are both simple. To get physically fit, we need to eat less and work out more, and to get financially fit, we need to spend less and make more. It sounds really simple, but if it were that simple, we’d have a bunch of skinny millionaires running around! There are a lot of emotions around both." —Shannon McLay

If you want to run a marathon, you hire a running coach or personal trainer. If you want to get your finances whipped into shape, you hire Shannon McLay, founder and CEO of The Financial Gym and host of the Martinis and Your Money podcast. Shannon is a former Merrill Lynch financial advisor who created The Financial Gym to help people "kick their assets into shape and their bad money habits to the curb." Her goal is to help men and women, primarily of the millennial generation, to get financially healthy. Shannon and her team at The Financial Gym have coached more than 1,400 clients and helped them turn their bank accounts, credit scores, and investments around — and on this episode, she talks about how to get started, plus how to avoid the financial comparison trap.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

General money Q&A, including advice on credit cards, bank accounts, the financial comparison trap, and more (5:00)
Budgeting 101 (22:15)
Advice for paying off student loans (28:05)
All about investing and saving (37:45)
Baby and family questions (53:00)

What we mention on this episode:

NerdWallet

The Points Guy

Acorns

Investing 101 Webinar via The Financial Gym

Betterment

Policygenius

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125. Ali & the Experts Week with Dr. Logan Levkoff, Sex & Relationships Educator Mar 09, 2019

"It’s important to have the tough conversations." —Dr. Logan Levkoff

Dr. Logan Levkoff is an expert on sexuality and relationships, and she's all about promoting honest conversations surrounding both. In addition to being a sexuality educator, Dr. Levkoff is also a television regular, appearing regularly on Good Morning America, the Today show, CNN, and the first three seasons of Married at First Sight. She has worked with major brands like Dove, Pfizer, Starbucks, and Trojan, and has authored and contributed to several books on sexuality.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

All things love and relationships (3:30)
Advice on sex (30:00)

What we mention on this episode:

The 5 Love Languages

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124. Ali & the Experts Week with Brynn Fessette O'Neill, Physical Therapist Mar 08, 2019

"Please don’t Google this stuff." —Brynn Fessette O'Neill

Brynn Fessette O'Neill, DPT, is a physical therapist at Finish Line Physical Therapy in New York City. On this episode, she offers advice on prehab, injuries, and recovery.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

All about prehab and rehab (3:00)
Brynn explains why specific injuries happen and how to deal with them, including IT-Band syndrome, plantar fasciitis, runner’s knee, and more (14:30)
Everything you need to know about recovery (35:30)

What we mention on this episode:

Brynn on Episode 21 of the Ali on the Run Show

Vibrating foam roller

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123. Ali & the Experts Week with Kelly Hogan, Registered Dietitian Mar 07, 2019

"Focus on your food choices, your hunger, your fullness cues, and your body's cravings, and eat a variety of delicious foods you like." —Kelly Hogan

Kelly Hogan is a registered dietitian and many-time marathoner. On this episode, she talks about what it means to be an anti-dietitian, how to question the nutrition information you find on social media, and what all runners should understand about healthy, proper fueling for optimal performance. Plus, she shares her expertise and insights on current popular health and wellness trends, from the keto diet to intermittent fasting.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What it means to be an anti-diet dietitian (2:10)
Running-specific nutrition questions (5:45)
Kelly shares her expertise on popular health and wellness trends (29:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Kelly Hogan on Episode 39 of the Ali on the Run Show

Generation UCan

Picky Bars

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122. Ali & the Experts Week with Mary Johnson, Running Coach Mar 06, 2019

"Do your own training. Get in your own routine. Don't compare yourself to what everyone else is doing and posting everywhere. Have confidence in what you're doing." —Mary Johnson

Mary Johnson is a USATF Level-1 certified coach and the founder of Lift, Run, Perform. On this episode, she answers listener questions about coaching, strength training, and that crucial build-up to race day.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

General coaching questions and personal questions (4:00)
Cross training and strength training Q&A (14:10)
Running-specific advice (22:20)
Race-related questions (41:10)

What we mention on this episode:

Ranfone Training Systems

Nike Vomero

Nike Pegasus

Allie Kieffer

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121. Anna Kaiser, Founder of AKT Feb 28, 2019

"I’ve always been about working hard and going after things that you are excited about and passionate about and working your ass off. That’s the only way to make it happen. No one else is going to make it happen for you." —Anna Kaiser

You may know Anna Kaiser as the creator, founder, and CEO of the dance cardio brand AKT. Maybe you've taken — and barely survived — her class, either in person or with AKT On Demand. Or maybe you recognize her from her professional dance days, performing on the Fame tour and dancing in the best movie ever, Enchanted. Or, let's be honest, maybe you know her as Kelly Ripa's workout BFF, or as the woman credited for keeping Shakira in shape.

On this episode, Anna talks about going from a wannabe opera singer in Zurich to an entrepreneur on the brink of opening 300 studios nationwide. She shares the mistakes, missteps, and challenges she's faced along the way, talks about why she wanted to improve upon the boutique fitness industry, and opens up about how becoming a mom two years ago changed her at home, in the studio, and beyond.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What were Young Anna’s dreams for the future? (3:00)
Anna reflects on her college experience and explains why it wasn’t everything she’d hoped it would be (8:15)
Why Anna decided to move on from the dance world (12:00)
How AKT was born, and how Anna stood out in the boutique fitness industry (15:00)
How Anna became fitness BFFs with Kelly Ripa (21:00)
How Anna has cultivated an empowering community (22:50)
Why Anna decided to franchise (25:45)
How Anna become business savvy, and the bad business decisions she’s made along the way (31:25)
Anna’s take on the state of the fitness industry, now and in the future (34:30)
Anna opens up about motherhood, including returning to work post-birth, having help, and “balance” (39:45)
Does Anna have any insecurities? Plus, what she says she’s proudest of (46:30)

What we mention on this episode:

EDGE Performing Arts Center

AKT On Demand

Xponential Fitness

The Milling Room

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120. Bree Branker, NYC Trainer & Fitness Model Feb 21, 2019

"I said I want to be the best. But at what?" —Bree Branker

Baby Bree Branker dreamed about growing up and becoming a professional dancer. By 19, after attending a performing arts high school, she'd made that happen, as a Rockette and on Broadway in West Side Story, Spamalot, Memphis, and Big Fish. But by her early twenties, everything changed. Bree finally accepted the nagging hip dysplasia that had been plaguing her body for years — even getting her fired from her dream job at Cirque du Soleil — and found fitness instead. On this episode, Bree, now one of New York City's top trainers and a Wilhelmina model, opens up about the mental side of injury, the state of the fitness industry, and what it's like navigating the New York City boutique fitness scene. She talks about her Instagram pet peeves, luck, determination, a cross-country move, and why she was "a terrible Rockette." Plus, she shares why she got turned down for a SoulCycle audition, what terrified her as a Flywheel instructor, and why she's currently training for a half marathon.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Bree’s road to becoming a professional dancer (2:45)
Why Bree got fired from her dream job at Cirque du Soleil, and the injury that ended her dance career (14:15)
How Bree finally hit her dance career-ending breaking point (26:50)
How Bree broke into the fitness industry (28:00)
Bree’s take on the current state of the fitness industry, on Instagram and in real life (38:15)
Why Bree felt like a fraud in the fitness world, and the a-ha moment that made her realize she’d made it (42:00)
How Bree got into modeling — and met her now-fiance along the way (47:30)
How and why Bree learned to “chill out” about fitness (51:30)
Why Bree is training for a half marathon (59:30)

What we mention on this episode:

University of North Carolina School of the Arts

Broadway Dance Center

Walnut Street Theatre

Akin Akman

Kira Stokes

Patrick Frost

"Influence vs. Expertise: The Dangerous Rise of the Fitness Influencer" via The Sweat Life

CJ Koegel

"An Injury Left Me in a Dark Place — Until Working Out Got Me Out of It" via Women’s Health

SHAPE Women’s Half Marathon

FitOn app (use code BREE50 for 50% off)

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119. Love on the Run LIVE at New York Road Runners Feb 14, 2019

"Running made me better for our relationship outside of running. It gave me something to give to myself." —Matt Powers

I love running and I love love, so what better way to celebrate Valentine's Day than with a live show talking love on the run?! I had a blast hosting this live show with two of NYC's greatest running couples: Matt Powers and Candice Huffine (he's an entrepreneur and she's a supermodel — NBD), and Alex Salazar and Krissa Cetner ("that couple" that got married at mile 6 of the Brooklyn Half Marathon in 2017!). The crowd was amazing (THANK YOU to everyone who came!), and we had the best time talking about the role running plays in our relationships, whether or not we're competitive on the run, and of course, what it's like getting married in the middle of a race. We also covered very serious issues, like the gross things we do as runners, sweaty underwear, snot rockets, and more. Prepare to LOL and "awwwwww."

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118. A Message From Ali Feb 06, 2019

"Motherhood, for me, over the past three and a half months, has involved a lot of waves. I’ve ridden them and at times I’ve been drowning. Other times I'm treading water and managing to stay afloat, no matter how exhausted I’ve been. And other times, I’ve been getting along like I actually know how to swim! Right now, though, in this very moment, I’m on the drowning side of things."

It's been a tricky week. So this is a quick check-in to say hi, and to [kind of] explain why I just didn't get it together to get a "real" episode out this week. Forgive me? Thanks! There's a lot of good stuff to come on the Ali on the Run Show — I just need to take a few deep breaths first!

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117. Julie Brazitis, Google Brand & Creative Lead Jan 31, 2019

"Stay true to yourself. It gets really good on the other side, when you’re a good person and you follow your gut on who you want to be around and what you want to do with your life." —Julie Brazitis

Julie Brazitis just might be the loveliest, kindest, most positive person you'll ever meet. She's a brand and creative lead at Google, a yoga instructor, a top-honors-earning graduate of Syracuse University, and a recovering perfectionist. On this episode, Julie talks about what it's like when you realize you're living the dream — but that it's someone else's dream. She talks about what it was like growing up as a competitive gymnast, and what happened when a severe spinal cord injury derailed her high-flying aspirations. She opens up about battling alopecia in high school and ulcerative colitis in college — and the mean girls she encountered along the way. Plus, she shares her running story: how she found running, why she loved running, and how she ultimately developed an unhealthy relationship with running.

Julie has had a lovely life — something she's happy to acknowledge — but that doesn't mean it's been easy. This is a thought-provoking episode that'll get you thinking about why we make certain choices, what to do about internal conflicts, and how to embrace or combat the ever-present hustle culture in today's Instagram-inspired society.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Julie recounts her early days as a competitive gymnast, and the back-breaking injury that ended it all (2:45)
Dealing with alopecia — and mean girls — during high school (6:30)
Julie opens up about her high aspirations, the “inner conflict” she struggled with in her twenties, and choosing between her dream job and the safe route (13:30)
How Julie started running — and how her relationship with running quickly turned problematic (29:30)
Julie’s battle with ulcerative colitis, and what it was like getting diagnosed in college (32:40)
On being our own worst critic (44:45)
What it’s actually like working at Google (47:30)

What we mention on this episode:

Syracuse University

NBC Universal Page Program

Yosef Herzog on Episode 111 of the Ali on the Run Show

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116. Jen Lada, ESPN Reporter Jan 24, 2019

“Know your value, and don’t allow other people to limit it, question it, or minimize it.” —Jen Lada

Jen Lada is a reporter and host for ESPN. She's also a mom of two, is married to a fellow sports journalist, and is a multiple-time marathoner and triathlete. On this episode, Jen, who primarily covers college football, talks about how she got into sports journalism, how she got into running, and how she's thrived in a male-dominated industry. She shares her #metoo story, opens up about her two miscarriages, and talks about the challenges of being a working and often-traveling parent.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Did Young Jen dream of being on ESPN? (2:50)
How Jen broke into sports journalism, and the unfortunate #metoo moment that started it all (10:10)
How Jen met her husband, who is also a sports journalist, and her best advice for surviving a long-distance relationship (24:00)
The road to ESPN, the pressure to look a certain way on camera, and returning to work and marathoning after having a baby (31:00)
Jen opens up about her two miscarriages, and what it was like being on camera every day during tough times (37:20)
What post-game interviews are actually like, plus the biggest rewards and challenges of the job (42:45)
Jen shares her running story — and her no-such-thing-as-TMI poop story! (51:40)

What we mention on this episode:

The Assertive Way

Marquette University

Girl, Wash Your Face by Rachel Hollis

Chicago Marathon

Kennedy Krieger Institute

Team For Kids

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115. Tatyana McFadden, 17-Time Paralympic Medalist Jan 16, 2019

“I never thought of myself as someone who was different.” —Tatyana McFadden

Tatyana McFadden is one of the most decorated athletes on the planet. She's a 17-time Paralympic medalist, and she has won 24 World Marathon Majors. In 2013 alone, she won the Boston, Chicago, London, and New York City marathons. In 2015, she shattered the New York City Marathon record by 7 minutes and 20 seconds. But Tatyana wasn't born into success — she was born in Russia with Spina Bifida, a disease that left her paralyzed from the waist down. She spent the first six years of her life in an orphanage, crawling on her hands because she didn't have access to a wheelchair. At six years old, everything changed: Tatyana was adopted by Deborah McFadden, who at the time was the Commissioner of Disabilities for the Bush administration and happened to be at the orphanage on a business trip. Tatyana moved to the United States, was introduced to sports as a way to get strong, and by 15 was competing at the Paralympics. In addition to her outstanding athletic accomplishments, Tatyana is an outspoken advocate for people living with disabilities, and later this spring she'll complete her master's degree in pursuit of a career as a child life specialist.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Tatyana talks about her childhood and what it was like growing up with Spina Bifida in an orphanage in Russia and how she made her way to becoming a world-class athlete (2:55)
Tatyana’s take on the word “disability” (10:50)
What exactly is Spina Bifida? (13:35)
What brought Tatyana’s mom to the orphanage in Russia (17:00)
What it was like having a disability in high school, and how Tatyana went on to create an important law for high schools around the country — and then meet the Obamas and Ellen DeGeneres (19:00)
How Tatyana became confident and outspoken (27:40)
Why Tatyana decided to go all-in on the marathon, and what it’s like racing in a chair (30:30)
What Tatyana’s training looks like before a goal race (38:30)
What it means to be brave (41:00)
What can people do to make life easier for people with disabilities? (44:30)
Tatyana on insecurities, grad school, what she’s proudest of, and what’s next (47:40)

What we mention on this episode:

NormaTec Recovery

Tatyana on The Ellen DeGeneres Show

"I Had a Baby!" Episode 106 of the Ali on the Run Show

Team For Kids

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114. The Fourth Trimester Jan 10, 2019

"I felt broken. Physically. Emotionally. I had a complete breakdown. I felt like a broken human. I was so tired. Lifeless. And I finally Googled the one thing I hadn't really wanted to Google."

In just a few days, Annie — my spankin' new daughter — will be three months old. That means I will have reached the end of what is commonly referred to as "the fourth trimester." That period postpartum when the baby still thinks its in the womb, and the mom is — I'm not sure what the mom is. But I know that for me, this fourth trimester has been tough. Trying. Exhausting. Emotional. Wonderful, amazing, monumental — but definitely hard. So on this solo episode, I talk about all of it: the pumping, the boob stuff, the expectations, the realities, and the truths. I talk about why I've been living in fear, and open up about what went down over the holidays, and how it ended with me Googling and really looking into postpartum depression. Plus, I talk about having help — thank god for help! — and answer listener questions.

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What I mention on this episode:

Laura Anderson on Episode 92 of the Ali on the Run Show

Chrissy Teigen Opens Up for the First Time About Her Postpartum Depression, via Glamour

Michele Gonzalez on Episode 19 of the Ali on the Run Show

Motherhood

New Jersey Half Marathon

The 5 Love Languages

Annie's Birth Story

Pregnancy + Baby Q&A

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113. Meaghan Murphy, Executive Editor at Good Housekeeping Jan 03, 2019

"The glass isn’t half empty. It’s not half full. It’s just refillable." —Meaghan Murphy

Meaghan Murphy just might be the real-life Energizer Bunny. As executive editor at Good Housekeeping, Meaghan has her hands on every page of every issue every month (and fun fact: she gets monthly manicures to match the cover of each issue). Before coming to GH, Meaghan's career in publishing paralleled her life: as a teen, she worked at YM and Teen People. As a single twenty-something living in New York City, she worked at Cosmopolitan. When she started having kids, she spent nearly a decade as fitness director at Self. And now that she and her husband, three kids (ages 8, 6, and 5), and dog (Dempsey, a labradoodle!) have moved to a white-picket-fence house in the New Jersey suburbs, she's at Good Housekeeping. (She's also the Chief Spirit Officer of her town, Westfield — though she'll tell you it's called "Bestfield.")

Meaghan is a giant ball of energy and positivity. (Case in point: She starts every day at exactly 5:03 AM, whens he heads to a workout with her #goodvibetribe.) She's kind, confident, and loves getting older. But Meaghan has been through some stuff. On this episode, she opens up about her battle with and recovery from anorexia. She talks about the challenges of parenting. She gets into what makes a marriage work. And we shed a few tears together when she talks about #operationgoodgrief, and how she healed from her dad's death. You'll finish this episode feeling energized, ready to find the good in every day, and excited to create your own #yaylist.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Meaghan’s secret to staying happy and in love, reflecting on the first 10 years of her marriage (2:30)
Meaghan shares her love for New Jersey (5:50)
What young Meaghan dreamed about for her future, and how she got started in the publishing industry (6:50)
Meaghan on fearlessness (12:00)
Meaghan looks back on her publishing career as it paralleled her life (13:45)
Meaghan shares how exercise helped her recover from anorexia (19:15)
What life is like as executive editor of Good Housekeeping — plus insider intel she’s gleaned on the job, like all about the dirtiest items in our homes! (25:05)
Meaghan on motherhood, marriage, and parenting (31:25)
Meaghan on confidence (41:30)
Meaghan on fitness (46:30)
All about #operationgoodgrief (49:30)
Meaghan talks about her superpower: her on/off switch (56:10)
How to be a fun mom (59:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Rutgers University

A Million Little Pieces

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112. Sarah Cummings, Sub-Elite Runner Dec 27, 2018

“I knew things were going to unravel at some point… But looking back, I don’t know if I would’ve done things differently.” —Sarah Cummings

Few people have a work ethic like Sarah Cummings. Sarah, a 2:34 marathoner, lives in New York City where she runs for the New York Athletic Club and is a two-time New York Road Runners Runner of the Year. Sarah works long hours in the finance industry in addition to running 100-mile weeks — sometimes include 20-mile run commutes! On this episode, Sarah — who is a former competitive figure skater who graduated with top honors from Princeton University — talks about coming back from a grueling hamstring injury to run an Olympic qualifying time at the California International Marathon.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Sarah recaps her 2018 CIM performance (2:30)
Sarah reflects on her figure skating days and how she found running (7:00)
Sarah talks about her relationship with her sister — and whether or not they’re competitive on the run (14:30)
What it was like being a competitive runner in college (18:10)
How Sarah runs 100-mile weeks while working a demanding career in finance (22:10)
If given the choice, would Sarah go pro? (31:40)
Sarah talks about her hamstring injury and getting through a major setback (35:25)
What it’s like competing at the Olympic Trials as a sub-elite runner (48:50)
Sarah’s best advice for dealing with an injury (52:45)

What we mention on this episode:

New York Athletic Club

Hospital for Special Surgery

Princeton University

California International Marathon

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111. Yosef Herzog, Today Show Stage Manager Dec 20, 2018

"I wanted to see if I could do it. And then once I did it, I wanted to see what else I could do." —Yosef Herzog

For most people, 3:30 AM is the middle of the night. For Yosef Herzog, it's time to get to work. As stage manager for NBC's Today show, Yosef starts his day early. As a two-time marathon runner, he ends it late. Yosef is on set at NBC by 4:30 AM, leaves after the show wraps at 11 AM, and then runs in the evenings with Brooklyn Track Club. On this episode, he talks about making it all work, shares why he decided to leave his steady, well-paying career in finance to get into television, and opens up about his impressive 50-pound weight loss. Plus, he talks about what it's like working at the Olympics, and what it was like meeting the Obamas.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

All the moves that led Yosef to his job at Today, including the a-ha moment that made him realize he needed to make a total career change (3:15)
What it’s like being a part of NBC’s prestigious Page program (6:40)
How Yosef landed at the Today show, and what his job as stage manager entails (13:15)
What Yosef’s day looks like (17:10)
What Yosef says are the biggest challenges about working on live TV (21:25)
Yosef talks about major NBC events including Christmas in Rockefeller Center, the Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade, Halloween on the Plaza, the concerts, and the Olympics (24:00)
What it’s like covering national tragedies (29:30)
How Yosef got into running — and lost 50 pounds in the process — and what his lifestyle looks like now (33:00)
Why Yosef got into racing (47:40)
What’s next for Yosef? (53:30)

What we mention on this episode:

The Day I Met Celine Dion

NBC Universal Page Program

Fast Money

Yosef in Men’s Health

Natalie Morales on Episode 33 of the Ali on the Run Show

New York City Half Marathon

The Day I Met Celine Dion

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111. Yosef Herzog, Today Show Stage Manager Dec 20, 2018

"I wanted to see if I could do it. And then once I did it, I wanted to see what else I could do." —Yosef Herzog

For most people, 3:30 AM is the middle of the night. For Yosef Herzog, it's time to get to work. As stage manager for NBC's Today show, Yosef starts his day early. As a two-time marathon runner, he ends it late. Yosef is on set at NBC by 4:30 AM, leaves after the show wraps at 11 AM, and then runs in the evenings with Brooklyn Track Club. On this episode, he talks about making it all work, shares why he decided to leave his steady, well-paying career in finance to get into television, and opens up about his impressive 50-pound weight loss. Plus, he talks about what it's like working at the Olympics, and what it was like meeting the Obamas.

Thank you to AfterShokz for sponsoring this episode of the Ali on the Run Show! CLICK HERE for $50 off your wireless headphone bundle!

What you’ll get on this episode:

All the moves that led Yosef to his job at Today, including the a-ha moment that made him realize he needed to make a total career change (3:15)
What it’s like being a part of NBC’s prestigious Page program (6:40)
How Yosef landed at the Today show, and what his job as stage manager entails (13:15)
What Yosef’s day looks like (17:10)
What Yosef says are the biggest challenges about working on live TV (21:25)
Yosef talks about major NBC events including Christmas in Rockefeller Center, the Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade, Halloween on the Plaza, the concerts, and the Olympics (24:00)
What it’s like covering national tragedies (29:30)
How Yosef got into running — and lost 50 pounds in the process — and what his lifestyle looks like now (33:00)
Why Yosef got into racing (47:40)
What’s next for Yosef? (53:30)

What we mention on this episode:

NBC Universal Page Program

Fast Money

Yosef in Men’s Health

Natalie Morales on Episode 33 of the Ali on the Run Show

New York City Half Marathon

Natural Gourmet Institute

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110. Olivia Young, Creator of Box + Flow Dec 13, 2018

"Ask the tough questions. Who are you? Who aren't you? What do you want? What don't you want? Be so clear on who, what, where, when, how, why, and don't sacrifice any piece of that puzzle if you want to live a full life." —Olivia Young

Olivia Young is the founder and creator of Box + Flow, a yoga and boxing studio in New York City. But her plan wasn't always to be a heavy-hitter in the fitness industry: Olivia, who grew up in Miami Beach, moved to New York City to attend culinary school and to pursue a career in the hospitality industry. She worked with celebrity chefs and made a name for herself in the restaurant world, all the while waking up crazy early to run, box, and do yoga. Those early-morning passions eventually manifested in what is now Box + Flow. On this episode, Olivia, who was recently named "the woman who is redefining how NYC works out" on the coveted PureWow 100 list, reflects on her career path, her business mistakes, her great successes, what she's afraid of, and what it means to "liv young."

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Why Olivia doesn’t bother with fancy workout clothes (3:30)
What it means to Olivia to “liv young” (5:30)
Where Olivia got her work ethic, and how not getting a lead role in a musical led to her first disappointment — and changed her life (8:15)
Why Olivia pursued a career in hospitality, and what culinary school was like (14:00)
What it was really like working in the restaurant industry (22:00)
All about Box+Flow, Olivia’s fitness studio in NYC (27:00)
Did Olivia know Box+Flow would be an immediate success? And what does it mean to “flow through the fight?” (31:00)
Where Liv got her confidence, and what has the power to make her feel insecure (37:00)
Is it hard working in the restaurant industry and living a healthy lifestyle? And how Olivia feels about the idea of “cheat days” (43:00)
What Olivia says she’s proudest of, what she’s afraid of, and how she focuses on being brave (48:45)

What we mention on this episode:

French Culinary Institute

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109. Jes Woods, Nike Run Coach Dec 06, 2018

“I was like, ‘I need more friends, so I’m going to start running. Everyone looks like they’re having a good time — maybe I can have a good time!’”

Jes Woods is always. smiling. And she has good reason to be as happy as she is! As a Nike Run Coach and Flywheel Sports studio manager in New York City, Jes is living a good life — one she carefully crafted herself after an eight-and-a-half year career in broadcast journalism. Jes is an ultra runner who has completed 16 ultramarathons, including four 100 milers. (Most recently, Jes ran the Javelina Jundred.) On this episode, Jes talks about how she went from TV to a life on the run. She talks about working for NBC during the Beijing Olympics, and what it was like being a runner and covering the 2013 Boston Marathon bombings. Plus, Jes opens up about a recent breakup and the effect it had on her running, talks about why she struggles not to get too involved with the athletes she coaches (she loves them too much!), and talks about the rewarding parts of her job and what she says is "her Christmas."

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What did Young Jes want to be when she grew up? Plus, how Jes used her engineering degree to pursue a career in television. (2:55)
The big news stories Jes loved — and didn’t love — working on during her time at NBC (5:15)
How Jes got her start as a runner (6:50)
When and how Jes realized it was time to make a career change (10:45)
Jes’s advice for people considering a major career switch (23:20)
What makes Jes a good run coach? And what’s her favorite type of runner to coach? (24:10)
Jes’s best “game” to play to make your next run more fun (26:30)
The most common question Jes hears from runners she coaches (28:30)
Why running? (36:50)
How Jes got her jobs at Mile High Run Club and Flywheel, and what a day in the life for her looks like now (41:10)
What Jes says is the most rewarding part of her career (49:45)
Jes talks about her recent breakup, and how it affected her latest 100 miler (56:00)
Jes's advice for getting into the fitness industry (57:00)
What's next for Jes Woods? (58:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Nike Running

Flywheel Sports Chelsea

Javelina Jundred

Mile High Run Club

Carnegie Mellon University

New York City Half Marathon

Pittsburgh Marathon

Nike Women’s 15K Toronto

Katie Burke on Episode 70 of the Ali on the Run Show

OSR 30

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108. 11 Ways I Improved My Confidence Nov 29, 2018

"I started considering the amazing potential outcomes instead of the worst possible ones."

At some point last year, I realized my once stellar confidence had taken a major hit — so I took action. I started making big and small changes to help boost my self-confidence and to feel like a badass again. On this episode — another solo episode — I'm sharing the 11 things I've done to improve my confidence over the past year. I dare you to do at least one thing on this list today if you feel your confidence lacking. Don't wait. Do it today. Do it within the hour. You got this.

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What I mention on this episode:

Dance Spirit magazine

Episode 57 of the Ali on the Run Show

Bethany Lyons on Episode 25 of the Ali on the Run Show

Ali on the Run Show LIVE in San Diego

Ali on the Run Show LIVE at NYRR RunnerCon

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107. The Great Turkey Trot of 2014 Nov 21, 2018

"And then somebody comes by, stops, looks me in the eye and goes, 'Wow! You can do it, buddy!' And it was in that moment I realized that I wasn't running. I also realized I wasn't jogging. I was barely walking. I looked down, and the tops of my shoes are scraping the ground — one slow movement after the next slow movement. And people genuinely thought I had a serious medical condition, and that I was being a hero and a trooper by getting out there."

Three years ago, my now-husband, Brian Cristiano, and I lined up at the start of two very different Turkey Trots. Though both races were five miles, the outcomes were vastly dissimilar. I ran the Prospect Park Track Club Turkey Trot in Brooklyn, NY, in a respectable 38:41 — a 7:44 minute-per-mile pace. Meanwhile, in Rhode Island, Brian was racing the Newport Pie Run. Here’s a dramatic retelling of how his race went. This is forever my favorite story. Happy Thanksgiving, and Happy LOL-ing!

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Newport Pie Run

Prospect Park Track Club Turkey Trot

Meet Brian

Our engagement story

Mystery Science Theater 3000

Ugg slippers

Lori & David Feller on Episode 71 of the Ali on the Run Show

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106. I Had a Baby! Nov 15, 2018

"It was like he was the deep breath, and I was the emergency barf bag."

I had a baby! On this episode, I'm joined by a very special guest: Annie Leigh Cristiano. Annie was born on October 16, 2018, at 8:09 AM, clocking in at 5 lbs. 10 oz. On this solo episode, I'm talking about how the first month with Annie has gone, and how my expectations have compared to the reality. I talk about the challenges we've faced so far (breastfeeding, ugh), what Brian is like as a dad, how being selfish comes into play as a new parent, and how I'm adjusting to this new life of ours. Plus, answering listener questions and an update on all things Crohn's disease.

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What I mention on this episode:

Annie's Birth Story

Pregnancy + Baby Q&A

Ergo 360 carrier

Ashley Fizzarotti on Episode 102 of the Ali on the Run Show

Ali on the Run Show LIVE! in San Diego

Ali on the Run Show LIVE! at New York Road Runners RunnerCon

Lauren Fleshman on Episode 103 of the Ali on the Run Show

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105. Emily Abbate, Fitness Writer & Host of the Hurdle Podcast Nov 08, 2018

"I had already gotten so far, and I just wasn’t willing to look back. That involved pushing my comfort zone and doing something I maybe wasn’t the best at." —Emily Abbate

Emily Abbate is a freelance writer, editor, and content creator, a certified personal trainer, a marathoner, and the host of the Hurdle podcast. On this episode, Emily talks about her own #hurdlemoment, and what it took for her to lose 70 pounds — no quick fixes or fad diets included. She talks about her impressive journalism career, and shares how she rebounded after being laid off — twice. Plus, she opens up about confidence and failure, and dishes out life lessons galore.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Was this the life young Emily Abbate saw for herself? (2:15)
Emily shares her own hurdle moment, and opens up about how she lost 70 pounds and learned to love running (4:00)
How Emily became a super successful journalist and magazine editor (13:00)
Whether Emily sees herself as a risk taker (18:00)
Emily’s journey through the publishing industry, including being laid off — twice — and how she’s developed her confidence (19:00)
How Emily ended up freelancing, and the hustle it requires (31:30)
What a day in the life of Emily Abbate looks like (37:50)
Emily’s best advice for aspiring journalists (48:15)

What we mention on this episode:

Café Mom

Rodale

University of Connecticut

The Hartford Courant

Liz Plosser on Episode 72 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emily’s meditation book: Journey to the Heart

Athletic Greens

Lyons Den Power Yoga

Lululemon Run All Day Backpack

Kuju Coffee Packs

WeWork

Ali on the Run Show LIVE in San Diego

R&Co. Dry Shampoo

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104. Stephanie Bruce Nov 01, 2018

"When I think something is hard or challenging, I think of how I’m going to grow from it." —Stephanie Bruce

Happy TCS New York City Marathon Week! The professional field is stacked this year, and among the top competitors is Stephanie Bruce, who trains and races with NAZ Elite and is sponsored by Hoka One One. Steph made her New York City Marathon debut in 2017 and finished in 10th — an impressive-on-paper result, but on this episode, Steph explains why she was disappointed with her finish. She opens up about her health struggles over the years, talks about how she's feeling going into this year's race, and gets super honest about "body stuff." Steph trains in Flagstaff, AZ, where she lives with her husband, Ben Bruce, and their sons Hudson and Riley.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Steph rehashes her Peachtree Road Race win (2:30)
Why Steph decided to return to the New York City Marathon this year, what her 2017 race was like, and how she gets through tough races (6:15)
How Steph’s NYCM training is going, plus her best NYCM advice (12:30)
Steph shares her 2018 New York City Marathon goals (17:40)
Steph breaks down what was behind some of her recent Instagram posts (25:15)
Steph’s take on failure (33:15)
Why Steph left Oiselle to go all-in with Hoka One One (35:15)
What it’s like training with Ben Rosario (37:50)
Steph talks about “body stuff” and how becoming a mom has changed her as an athlete (40:00)

What we mention on this episode:

NAZ Elite

Hoka One One

Peachtree Road Race

The Great North Run

London Marathon

Hoka One One Tracer 2

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103. Lauren Fleshman Oct 24, 2018

"I hope I’m always willing to be wrong, willing to learn, and able to get better." —Lauren Fleshman

Lauren Fleshman is many things: She's a retired professional runner, a coach, the co-founder of Picky Bars, the co-creator of the Believe training journals, the creator of the Wilder retreat, one of the faces of Oiselle, a vocal USA Track & Field board member, a co-host of the Work, Play, Love podcast, wife to professional triathlete, and mom to Jude and Zadie. Phew! On this episode, Lauren talks about all of it, including her journey to becoming an entrepreneur, her honest thoughts on body image, and the real effect having kids had on her marriage. This is a fun, no-holds-barred conversation with one of the leading voices in the running industry.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What takes up the majority of Lauren’s time right now (2:00)
How Lauren became a professional runner (3:35)
Lauren reflects on her favorite race distance and her decision to stop competing professionally (10:00)
How having children affected Lauren’s career, and what running was like for her during and after pregnancy, plus how becoming a mom changed her as an athlete (13:00)
Whether Lauren has always been confident speaking up and using her voice, and how she developed that confidence (23:00)
Lauren talks about what she sees as the biggest problems facing professional runners right now, and what makes her want to speak up the loudest (28:45)
What Lauren would tell a 16-year-old runner who wants to go pro (33:30)
How Lauren became an entrepreneur, and the evolution of Picky Bars (36:00)
How Lauren got involved with Oiselle, what her role is with the company now, and where she sees the company going (43:20)
How Lauren met her now-husband, Jesse Thomas, and what their relationship is really like — plus the struggles they’ve faced together since having kids (52:30)
What Lauren’s relationship with her body is like right now, and what she wants more people to feel about their own bodies (1:03.15)

What we mention on this episode:

Picky Bars

Believe Training Journals

Wilder Retreat

Work, Play, Love podcast

"10 Reasons the 5K is Freaking Awesome" via Runner’s World

Sally Bergesen

"Welcome to the New School" via Oiselle

"Dear Younger Me" by Lauren Fleshman

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102. Ashley Fizzarotti AKA Running Bun Oct 17, 2018

“Make it important. Make a goal, and make time for it. It’s not about 'no excuses,' but make it a priority.” —Ashley Fizzarotti

Ashley Fizzarotti — best known on the internet as "Running Bun" — joins the Ali on the Run Show fresh off a huge PR and BQ at the Chicago Marathon. (That's personal record and Boston Qualifying time — AKA pretty big deals and accomplishments. She also raised more than $5,600 for Every Mother Counts.) Ashley is proof that hard work works: She's a 5-time marathoner who has shaved nearly an hour off her marathon time, going from a 4:24 marathon debut to her 3:29 in Chicago. On this episode, Ashley — who works in finance (we get into that), is a mom of two (Jennie and Christopher), and lives in New Jersey — talks about her training, setbacks, injuries, and how she made a dream six years in the making a reality.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Ashley’s feeling post-Chicago, plus what her training looked like (3:00)
How Ashley fit marathon training into her very busy life (9:00)
What motivates Ashley (12:00)
Ashley talks about her mental training, and how she’s evolved from the mistakes she made in the past (14:25)
Ashley breaks down the Chicago Marathon (22:15)
What’s next for Ashley (27:15)
How Ashley’s running has changed since having kids, and what running was like during both her pregnancies (29:00)
Ashley talks about her work ethic (35:00)
Ashley talks about what her diet looks like and her decision to become a vegetarian (40:20)
Confidence talk! Ashley shares her take on confidence, how she’s instilling it in her kids, and what she’s done recently to boost her own confidence (43:30)

What we mention on this episode:

Chicago Marathon

Ashley’s coach, Mary Johnson

Stephanie Bruce

How Bad Do You Want It? by Matt Fitzgerald

What it’s like to volunteer at the New York City Marathon

Spring Lake 5

Parker Stinson

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101. Jeannie Klisiewicz of The Ellen DeGeneres Show Oct 10, 2018

"You can have success and you can have money and you can have the best job in the world, but you’re only going to sleep well at night if you’re happy with who you are." —Jeannie Klisiewicz

You probably know Jeannie Klisiewicz as the bubbly, always super excited receptionist and often-on-camera star of The Ellen DeGeneres Show. (She even has her own show now: Life's First-Evers with Jeannie!) Jeannie just may be the happiest person on the planet, and she's on the Ali on the Run Show today sharing the amazing (and gutsy!) story of how she got her job working with Ellen, and how her role has evolved over the past 10 years. Jeannie, who grew up outside Chicago, talks about confidence and the power of staying true to yourself and, of course, about how she got into running and what it's done for her physically and mentally. Warning: This episode will make you smile so hard your cheeks hurt.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Jeannie got her job on The Ellen DeGeneres Show (3:00)
Why Jeannie says that, in spite of going out and asking Ellen DeGeneres for a job live on air, she’s actually not confident (14:15)
How Jeannie — a small-town girl from outside Chicago — has adapted to life in Los Angeles, and a lifestyle that has her up-close-and-personal with celebrities every day (19:30)
What Jeannie’s job was like when she started working with Ellen, and how it’s evolved over the past decade (22:00)
Whether being put on camera changed Jeannie’s relationship with her body and appearance (27:00)
What Jeannie’s new show, Life’s First Evers, entails (37:00)
What Jeannie’s relationship with Ellen is like off-camera (40:15)
Jeannie’s advice for people who want to get into the TV industry (49:30)
How Jeannie got into running, and how she fits it into her busy schedule (52:00)
What’s next for Jeannie? (58:00)

What we mention on this episode:

The Ellen DeGeneres Show

Ellen surprising Jeannie

Life’s First-Evers with Jeannie

“Dennis Quaid is here!”

Adele at Jamba Juice

Ellen’s New York to L.A.

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100. Des Linden, 2018 Boston Marathon Champion Oct 03, 2018

“I would love to do something with finesse one of these days, but I guess I’m all grit.” —Des Linden

Welcome to the 100th episode of the Ali on the Run Show! And for this very special episode, I’m thrilled to welcome back 2018 Boston Marathon winner Desiree Linden. This is the third time Des has been on the Ali on the Run Show, and it’s always a treat getting a chance to get inside her hardworking, hilarious, competitive head. On this episode, Des recaps her monumental 2018 Boston Marathon victory (including how long her post-race shower was!), and talks about her recent (gritty!) Rock 'N' Roll Philadelphia Half Marathon win. Des is currently gearing up to run the 2018 TCS New York City Marathon, so she also talks about how training is going — and finally answers the question everyone’s been asking: “Who’s coaching you right now?” Des left the Hansons-Brooks Project earlier this year, and today she talks about how she’s shaking things up post-Boston, and how she recovered from her 2017 running slump.

Des loves coffee, and if you do, too, you should drink her coffee! Use code ONTHERUN for 10% off your Linden+True coffee order.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How it feels to be the 2018 Boston Marathon champion (2:45)
What the vibe was like standing on the Boston Marathon start line in the cold, pouring rain, and what was going through Des’s mind before starting the race (4:40)
Des breaks down the moment when Shalane made that now-famous bathroom stop during the race (7:00)
Des offers up advice for how to make a mental shift mid-race (11:30)
What it felt like crossing the finish line and winning the Boston Marathon, and what Des remembers most from those few minutes after finishing (15:15)
How soon after Boston Des started thinking about her next race and goal, and why she decided on the New York City Marathon (20:45)
Who’s coaching Des Linden? (24:30)
What it was like winning the Rock N Roll Philadelphia Half Marathon last month (29:00)
Des shares her goals for the 2018 New York City Marathon, and whether she feels more pressure going into this race after winning Boston (32:00)
Des’s best advice for staying good, strong, healthy, and injury-free on the run (35:30)
Des answers listener questions, including who she considers her main American competitors right now, whether she’s down to take selfies with fans, and whether there’s a mini Des and Ryan in the future (36:30)

What we mention on this episode:

Des Linden on Episode 64 of the Ali on the Run Show

Des Linden on Episode 77 of the Ali on the Run Show

Ryan Linden on Episode 83 of the Ali on the Run Show

Linden+True Coffee

Brooks Running

Molly Huddle

Rock 'N' Roll Philadelphia

Amy Cragg on Episode 97 of the Ali on the Run Show

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99. One Month Until Baby! Sep 27, 2018

“I hope she finds her passion in life, and that she’s never discouraged to go after it.” —Brian Cristiano

In honor of our third wedding anniversary and the realization that Baby Cristiano's due date is just one month away, Brian and I decided to record an episode about all things, marriage, pregnancy, baby, and life. We talk about our decision to work with a midwife and how that's been going, and we get into the highs, lows, and surprises of this pregnancy journey. Plus, I put Brian on the spot and asked for his honest reaction to my changing body.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Is marriage what Brian expected it to be? (2:00)
Has the pregnancy experience been what Brian expected? Plus what the midwife experience has been like, and why Brian wanted to be at every appointment (4:15)
The highs, lows, and biggest surprises of pregnancy so far (15:30)
How Brian has reacted to my changing body (26:45)
Whether Brian has felt increased pressure in life and at work since I got pregnant (35:00)
The advice Brian has received that’s stuck with him (42:15)
Brian shares his wishes for our baby, and the kind of dad he wants to be (48:30)
Listener Q&A (52:00)

What we mention on this episode:

“We’re Having a Baby!”

Brian on Episode 2 of the Ali on the Run Show

Brian on Episode 17 of the Ali on the Run Show

Brian on Episode 47 of the Ali on the Run Show

Brian on Episode 52 of the Ali on the Run Show

Brian on Episode 57 of the Ali on the Run Show

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98. Mary Wittenberg, Former CEO of New York Road Runners & Virgin Sport Sep 20, 2018

“My greatest fear is letting fear get in my way.” —Mary Wittenberg

Mary Wittenberg is the former president and CEO of New York Road Runners and race director of the New York City Marathon, and was the Global CEO of Virgin Sport. Her titles are impressive, and she has the legacy to match. Mary has had an incredible impact on running. She is largely credited for turning marathon running into a spectator sport, and for getting female professional runners to be compensated appropriately. Mary was the brains behind the creation of the World Marathon Majors series, and she was at the helm of NYRR in 2012, when she and the city had to make the very public and controversial decision to cancel the New York City Marathon in the wake of Hurricane Sandy. On this episode, she talks about what it was like making that call, how she went from law school to big law to being a powerful force in the American running boom, and what's next for her since leaving Virgin Sport.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Mary explains whether she’s always been someone who loves being busy and super active (2:00)
What it was like growing up surrounded by men, and how that impacted Mary’s future (4:00)
How — and why — Mary went from law school to big law to the sports industry (7:20)
Mary opens up about her decision to wait to have children because of her career (13:45)
What it was like being race director of the New York City Marathon (15:00)
Mary shares her favorite memories from her time at New York Road Runners (29:15)
What it was like being a race director in a post-Boston Marathon bombings world (32:20)
Mary opens up about the 2012 New York City Marathon, and the decision to cancel the race after Hurricane Sandy — plus how she came back from that difficult time (36:50)
Who gets to hold the tape at the marathon finish line?! (45:45)
Why Mary left NYRR for Virgin Sport, and what it was like working with Richard Branson (48:00)
Whether Mary has ever regretted leaving her dream job at NYRR (53:00)
What it was like when Mary finally got to run the New York City Marathon for the first time in 2016 (57:00)
Mary offers her best advice for women in male-dominated industries (59:20)
What’s next for Mary Wittenberg? (1:01.15)

What we mention on this episode:

Virgin Sport

University of Notre Dame

Molly Huddle

Marine Corps Marathon

Peter Ciaccia

Percy Sutton Harlem 5K

New York City Half

Popular Brooklyn Half

Fifth Avenue Mile

Alison Desir

John Honerkamp

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97. Amy Cragg Sep 13, 2018

“I’m the one who just puts my head down and works really hard. That’s my thing.” —Amy Cragg

In February, Amy Cragg — who runs for the Bowerman Track Club — ran an incredible five-minute personal best at the Tokyo Marathon. She finished third overall, and solidified her spot among the greats, officially becoming the fifth fastest female American marathoner. Now, Amy is gearing up to run the Chicago Marathon in October. On this episode, she shares her goals (she's in it to win it!), how her training has been going, what it's like training with Jerry Schumacher, and how she handles pressure. Plus, she reflects on the 2012 and 2016 Olympic Trials, talks about her relationship with her Olympian husband, and shares her dreams of starting a guitar band with former college roommate and friend Des Linden.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Amy reflects on the 2018 Tokyo Marathon, her five-minute PR, and what her goals were for that race (1:45)
Amy’s take on the power of persistence, and whether a personal record matters when you’re a professional runner (4:20)
Why Amy decided to run the Chicago Marathon this year, and how her training has been going (7:20)
What it’s like when Amy races her teammates (11:35)
Amy describes what it’s like to train with the Bowerman Track Club (12:50)
Whether Amy and Des Linden — who were roommates in college — always knew they were destined for greatness (15:50)
Amy looks back on the 2012 Olympic Trials, when she came in fourth, and then reflects on the 2016 Trials, which she won! (19:30)
Amy compares the pressure of competing at the Olympics to the pressure of competing at the Trials — plus how she handles pressure (26:30)
Amy talks about her relationship with her husband, Alistair (29:30)
Amy shares the biggest challenge about being a professional athlete (33:00)
Amy’s advice for anyone running the Chicago Marathon (38:30)

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96. LIVE at NYRR RunnerCon with Jenny Simpson, Emma Coburn, & Peter Ciaccia Sep 10, 2018

“It’s every competitor for themselves, and there’s no mercy after the gun goes off.” —Jenny Simpson

I was thrilled when New York Road Runners asked me to be part of the organization's first RunnerCon event to kick off the world-renowned 5th Avenue Mile weekend in New York City. The Ali on the Run Show LIVE event was sandwiched between a panel with YouTube sensation (and super speedy runner!) Casey Neistat and one with professional runner and cancer-fighting superstar Gabe Grunewald — not bad company to be in! Enjoy the recording from the live show, where I had the best time chatting with an all-star lineup including New York Road Runners President of Events and Race Director of the TCS New York City Marathon Peter Ciaccia, and professional runners Jenny Simpson and Emma Coburn. (And biggest thanks to everyone who came out to support the show in person. The crowd was amazing and so much fun!)

What you’ll get on this episode:

Peter Ciaccia — the man behind asking for “clearance on the roadways” at New York Road Runners events — talks about how he got into the running industry and ended up at the helm of NYRR
Peter reflects on the pressure that comes with being in charge of the world’s biggest marathon, plus whether he checks the weather obsessively before the race and whether he sleeps the week of the marathon (6:30)
Peter’s advice to anyone who has ever worried about “coming in last” at a race (10:15)
Peter shares his favorite memory from his 18-year NYRR career — and his most memorable race-day blooper (12:20)
Jenny Simpson and Emma Coburn talk about what it’s like being both friends and competitors (23:15)
Jenny shares whether pressure comes with defending her 5th Avenue Mile title (26:00)
Jenny and Emma talk about confidence, and how social media comes into play (28:20)
How Jenny defines failure, and what has the ability to rattle both women on the start line (32:15)
What Emma’s competitive about off the race course (37:00)
Jenny and Emma sprint to the finish (40:40)

What we mention on this episode:

Dash to the Finish Line 5K

Jack LaLanne

Popular Brooklyn Half

Emma Coburn on Episode 60 of the Ali on the Run Show

Mary Wittenberg

New Balance Fifth Avenue Mile

Boys in the Boat

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95. Keri Blunt, Goodr's VP of Everything Sep 05, 2018

“I learned to get paid to do what I loved and enjoyed doing.” —Keri Blunt

Keri Blunt is the VP of Everything at Goodr, the sunglasses company that has taken over the running world. But Keri’s goal wasn’t always (or ever) to work in the running industry. Her original plan — after graduating high school valedictorian at 16 years old — was to become a doctor. She went to college, where she double majored in molecular, cellular, and developmental biology and English literature — and realized her actual passions along the way. Today, Keri splits her time between overseeing content at Goodr and being a dancer, actor, and comedic rapper.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Why Keri wanted to be a nudist growing up, and how she went on to become a 16-year-old high school valedictorian and college student double majoring in molecular, cellular, and developmental biology and English literature (2:30)
How Keri figured out what she actually wanted to do with her life (8:00)
What exactly Keri does now, and how she got involved with Goodr (12:00)
What it means to be the VP of Everything (22:10)
How Goodr grew to success over the past 3.5 years (24:15)
Where the name Goodr came from (32:15)
Whether Keri considers herself an entrepreneur, and how Goodr defines success (37:50)
What Keri’s relationship with running is like (42:00)
Meet Wendy, Keri’s [NSFW] rapping alter ego (49:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Goodr

Goodr in Runner’s World

The Running Event

LA Marathon

Kara Goucher’s Stop and Smell the Rosé glasses

Goodr Flamboyance

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94. Ellen Latham, Creator of Orangetheory Fitness Aug 29, 2018

“I finally thought, ‘Why not me? Why not give it a shot?’” —Ellen Latham

Ellen Latham is the creator and co-founder of Orangetheory Fitness. Orangetheory is the fastest-growing fitness franchise in the world: It's currently in 18 countries, it brought in more than $700 million in sales last year, and Ellen and her team recently celebrated the opening of the brand's 1000th studio. Of course, the road to super success hasn't been simple for Ellen. Before she was the founder of Orangetheory, she was a single mom who had just gotten fired from her job and had to figure out what to do next. On this episode, Ellen, who lives in Fort Lauderdale, FL, reflects on those challenges, how she decided to become an entrepreneur, and what makes OTF special. She also talks about her greatest successes and scariest failures and growing pains.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Ellen made her way into the fitness industry (1:50)
How being a single mom who got fired from her job led Ellen to create Orangetheory, and how she bounced back from extreme discomfort (2:40)
Whether Ellen always knew she would be a huge success, and how she learned to be an entrepreneur (8:45)
What Ellen says are the most important decisions she’s made to grow Orangetheory to become the fastest-growing fitness franchise in the world (16:00)
Why Orangetheory’s motto is “More Life,” and what that means to Ellen (22:30)
What a day in the life of Ellen Latham is like (26:00)
Ellen shares her future goals for Orangetheory (28:00)
Ellen’s advice for first-time Orangetheory-goers and for women who want to pursue careers in the fitness industry (30:45)
What keeps Ellen up at night (33:45)

What we mention on this episode:

Miley Cyrus performing Melancholy Hill

Ellen’s Ultimate Workout

Massage Envy

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93. Jeni Novak, Founder of Novak Entertainment Aug 23, 2018

“You only have a fallback plan if you plan to fall back.” —Jeni Novak

When I was 12 years old, my cool older cousin was dating the coolest girl I'd ever met. She wore high heels, she was a dancer, and she would always do my hair and makeup when I saw her. That girl — woman — is Jeni Novak. We called her "Little Jen," because she was teeny tiny, but today, Little Jen has gotten up to some big things: She went on to become a professional dancer, eventually dancing for Miley Cyrus and becoming not just her go-to dancer, but also one of her closest friends. (Jealous.) Jeni met her now-husband while dancing for Miley (my cousin went on to marry the other coolest girl I've ever met), so if you're a Miley Cyrus fan (I am!), there are lots of fun Miley stories in this episode. Today, Jeni is a hair and makeup artist in Hollywood. She and her husband started their own creative agency and production company, Novak Entertainment, and their clients include Lululemon, Tone It Up, Reebok, and more. Jen has so many inspiring stories to share, so if you're looking for someone to help whip you into shape and up your hustle game, you'll get it in this episode.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Jeni recalls her early days as an aspiring professional dancer, and how she made her dance dreams come true — including the fateful way she ended up moving to Los Angeles for good (4:10)
How Jeni has built her confidence, and whether she’s ever felt insecure in this industry (22:30)
How Jeni ended up dancing for — and becoming close friends with — Miley Cyrus (25:15)
How and why Jeni decided to start a production company (36:30)
The big job Jeni was preparing for when we recorded this episode (48:40)
How Jeni made her way into the health and wellness space (1:00:10)

What we mention on this episode:

The Juilliard School

Legends in Concert

Broadway Dance Center

L.A. DanceMagic

Matte Black

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92. Laura Anderson, 2018 Buffalo Marathon Winner Aug 15, 2018

“I haven’t always failed gracefully, but I’ve always come back.” —Laura Anderson

Laura Anderson is a full-time working mom and McKirdy Trained running coach based in Rochester, NY. Laura had her daughter, Hannah, a little over a year ago, and in May she ran — and won — her first big postpartum race. On this episode, Laura reflects on her 2018 Buffalo Marathon win (she finished in 2:57, which was also a marathon PR) and the training that helped her break the tape. She also honestly and candidly talks about her experience with postpartum OCD, body image, and goal setting.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Laura reflects on her recent Buffalo Marathon win and what race day was like (2:50)
How Laura’s Buffalo Marathon training went — her first postpartum training cycle — and what she does for cross-training (11:40)
Why Laura chose not to run during her pregnancy (17:15)
Laura talks about whether not running throughout pregnancy made her postpartum comeback easier or more challenging (22:00)
How Laura got into running (28:30)
What Laura’s training for now, plus how and when she sets her running goals (32:00)
Laura’s advice for aspiring Boston Marathon qualifiers (36:30)
How and why Laura decided to become a running coach, and what she’s like as a coach (38:30)
Laura talks about the most common mistakes she sees most runners making (41:30)
Laura opens up about her postpartum OCD (44:15)
How Laura takes care of herself in spite of an extremely busy schedule (52:30)

What we mention on this episode:

Buffalo Marathon

McKirdy Trained

Lake Effect Half Marathon

*Learn more about Postpartum OCD*

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91. What's New With You Week with Sarah Sellers Aug 07, 2018

“I’m still not sure which was crazier: me finishing second, or the response to me finishing second.” — Sarah Sellers

After the 2018 Boston Marathon, everyone wanted to meet second place finisher Sarah Sellers. She joined the Ali on the Run Show just two days after her triumphant finish in Boston — and that episode went on to become the most-downloaded episode of the show ever. Today, Sarah is still a nurse anesthetist living in Arizona, but her life looks a little different post-Boston. She's no longer and unknown, unsponsored runner — she signed with Altra soon after Boston — and she's $75,000 richer thanks to the Boston Marathon. On this episode, she looks back at that day in Boston and how her life has changed since, and shares her big racing plans for the fall.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

What the days and weeks after the Boston Marathon were like for Sarah (2:05)
What it was like returning to work after Boston (4:45)
What Sarah’s post-Boston recovery was like (6:00)
How Sarah spent her $75,000 Boston Marathon prize money (7:30)
How Sarah became sponsored post-Boston, what that process was like, and why she chose to partner with Altra (10:10)
Whether her second-place finish in Boston added stress and pressure to Sarah’s running (16:00)
How Sarah is fitting her new, busier running and racing commitments into her already intense work schedule (19:40)
What’s next for Sarah Sellers? (23:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Sarah Sellers on Episode 69 of the Ali on the Run Show

Gwen Jorgensen on Episode 54 of the Ali on the Run Show

Altra

Deseret News 10K

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90. What's New With You Week with Gwen Jorgensen Aug 06, 2018

“It’s hard. I go and put the work in and see a glimmer of hope and then get my butt handed to me a week later. It’s difficult. But I know what I want to do and what I believe I’m capable of doing, and I know I just need to continue to work.” —Gwen Jorgensen

When Gwen Jorgensen was on the Ali on the Run Show earlier this year, she had recently moved to Portland, OR, and had just announced her next big goal: to transition from an Olympic gold medal-winning triathlete to an Olympic gold medal-winning marathoner. Gwen has been training with the Bowerman Track Club, under the leadership of Coach Jerry Schumacher, and she's back on the show to give us all an update on how her 2020 pursuit is going. Plus, she talks about how becoming a mom to one-year-old Stanley has changed the game for her, and what she's learned from her fellow Bowerman Babes.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Why Gwen wanted to train with the Bowerman Track Club, and how she made it happen (2:10)
What it’s like being a Bowerman Babe, and what Gwen has learned from her teammates (4:20)
What is it about Jerry Schumacher? (8:00)
How Gwen’s training is going, physically and mentally (11:00)
How becoming a mom has changed Gwen’s training (15:50)
What Gwen’s fall marathon goals look like and how she’s working toward them (19:45)
What’s new with Stanley? (22:00)
Gwen reflects on her postpartum return to running and training (24:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Bowerman Track Club

Shelby Houlihan

Janae Baron on Episode 50 of the Ali on the Run Show

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89. What's New With You Week with Janae Baron Aug 06, 2018

“Running is important, but it’s not everything.” —Janae Baron

When Janae Baron was on the Ali on the Run Show last December, she was 37 weeks pregnant, so needless to say, she’s seen some big changes now that she has an eight-month-old daughter, Skye, added to her six-member family! On this episode, Janae talks about how that transition has gone, and what the biggest challenges and surprises have been so far. She opens up about the easy parts, the hard parts, and, of course, the running-related parts. Plus, a very special guest at the beginning of the episode!

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How life has been for Janae since becoming a family of six (4:40)
What Janae says has been the biggest surprise about adding a baby to the family (7:50)
How having a baby with Andrew has impacted their marriage (9:45)
What Janae’s recovery and return to running after having Skye was like (12:00)
Janae opens up about her experience with feeling depressed and sad during pregnancy (18:00)
Janae shares her current race goals, plans, and dreams — and talks about whether that sub-3:00 marathon goal is still on her mind (23:45)
What Janae says she’s most excited about right now (39:20)

What we mention on this episode:

Mary Johnson

St. George Marathon

Lift.Run.Perform

Mountains 2 Beach Marathon

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88. What's New With You Week with Allie Kieffer Aug 05, 2018

"Expectations obviously are higher now. But I put them on myself." —Allie Kieffer

When Allie Kieffer was on Episode 46 of the Ali on the Run Show last November, she was fresh off a fifth-place finish at the 2017 TCS New York City Marathon. Her 2:29 finish was triumphant: She was this unknown, unsponsored runner from Buffalo, NY, who happened to be the first American woman to finish behind winner Shalane Flanagan. Now, Allie is no longer unknown or unsponsored. She signed with Oiselle soon after NYC, trained in Kenya for seven weeks, and recently moved to Boulder, CO, where she's gearing up to return to the New York City Marathon.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Allie reflects on the 2017 TCS New York City Marathon and how it impacted her career (2:15)
Allie’s best advice for moving past a bad race or workout (6:05)
How Allie became a sponsored runner, thanks to Oiselle, what the signing process entailed, and what her sponsorship agreement looks like (7:20)
Whether becoming a well-known, in-the-public-eye runner after the 2017 NYC Marathon was stressful or motivating for Allie (13:40)
What training in Kenya was like — and how Allie ended up there in the first place (15:30)
How Allie coped emotionally after going from being in the best shape of her life to having a stress fracture and being totally sidelined (22:10)
Why Allie traded Buffalo for Boulder (28:00)
Allie opens up about how she became an advocate for body positivity, and her relationship with her body and race times (31:15)
What’s next for Allie Kieffer (37:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Allie Kieffer on Episode 46 of the Ali on the Run Show

AJC Peachtree Road Race

Portland Track Festival

Emma Coburn

Nike Moonshot Project

Brad Hudson

Sarah Lesko

Michele Gonzalez on Episode 19 of the Ali on the Run Show

Desiree Linden

Boilermaker 15K

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87. What's New With You Week with Michele Gonzalez Aug 03, 2018

"I felt relieved. I knew mentally and physically, I was not ready to be on that starting line." —Michele Gonzalez

The last time Michele Gonzalez (AKA "NYC Running Mama") was on the show, she was gearing up to run the 2017 Boston Marathon. During that episode, Michele and I joked about someday being pregnant at the same time — and now here we are, both expecting babies this fall! Michele is a full-time working mom of two, and her third child is due in November. On this episode, she talks about her pregnancy, what her running looked like over the past year, and whether she has any postpartum running goals. She also shares her secrets for snapping those gorgeous sunrise running photos!

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Michele shares all the exciting news about her pregnancy (1:45)
How Michele’s recent running goals factored into her decision to have a baby right now (8:30)
How Michele dealt with and got through a tough running year in 2017 (11:45)
Whether Michele has any big postpartum running goals, and the pressure she felt in the past to return to running and racing soon after having a baby (16:00)
Michele opens up about whether she’s worried to take time off from work post-baby (21:00)
Michele’s best advice for getting back into the workforce after taking time off to raise a family (28:45)
Michele shares her secret to getting those gorgeous sunrise running shots (31:30)

What we mention on this episode:

Mary Johnson, Michele's coach

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86. What's New With You Week with Kara Goucher Aug 03, 2018

"I don’t think I’ll ever retire. If something motivates me, I want to go for it." —Kara Goucher

Kara Goucher is back on the Ali on the Run Show, talking about her new book, Strong, how keeping a confidence journal changed her life, and where her running career is at right now. She also talks about the current state of women's running, and reflects on how choosing to have a child at the height of her professional running career affected her job. Plus, she answers the two questions everyone keeps asking: Is she retired, and does she want more kids?

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Kara dishes about her new book, Strong, and how keeping a confidence journal has changed her life (2:00)
Kara recounts her performance at this year’s Grandma’s Marathon, and reflects on the highs and lows of the day (7:30)
Kara opens up about what it’s like when your competitor has an amazing day and you have a less-than-stellar one (13:10)
Where Kara’s at with her running career right now (17:40)
What it’s like watching American women dominate on the roads and track right now (20:15)
Kara talks about running during and after pregnancy, and why she returned to running so soon after giving birth to her son, Colt (26:30)
How choosing to have a child actually affected Kara’s professional running career (32:35)
Whether Kara still wants to dabble in ultra running (38:00)
Is Kara retired? (40:00)
Does Kara want more kids? (42:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Kara Goucher on Episode 43 of the Ali on the Run Show

Dr. Stephen Walker, sports psychologist

Grandma’s Marathon

Kara’s Podium Retreat

Emma Coburn

BolderBOULDER 10K

Emily Halnon on Episode 1 of the Ali on the Run Show

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85. What's New With You Week with Emily Halnon Aug 02, 2018

“I now live in a barn with an elderly schnauzer, surrounded by goats.” —Emily Halnon

Emily Halnon was the very first guest on the Ali on the Run Show, and now she’s back to kick off What’s New With You Week. Emily is an ultra runner who lives in Eugene, OR, by way of Washington, DC, and Vermont. When we last talked on the show, Emily was dating a man with a cute dog and training for 100-mile races. Where’s she at now? Well, she still has the dog. Listen in for the rest.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

An update on Emily’s “If my boyfriend and I ever break up, I’m keeping the dog” joke, and her current living situation (3:00)
Why Emily is currently in a cast (10:30)
Where Emily’s at with running, and what she’s training for right now (13:00)
What Emily’s excited about right now, and what stresses her out (25:00)
What’s next for Emily Halnon — plus details about her current relationship status (29:50)

What we mention on this episode:

University of Oregon

Cascade Crest Endurance Run

Katie Burke on Episode 70 of the Ali on the Run Show

Hardrock 100

Waldo 100K Ultramarathon

Dogs Being Basic

Emily’s mom, @andyjha

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84. Career Q&A with Katie Burke Jul 25, 2018

“It’s never too late to do what you wanted to do growing up. But it’s not going to come easy, and no one’s going to hand it to you.” —Katie Burke

Katie Burke is the Chief People Officer at HubSpot, a marketing software company in Boston that employs more than 2,300 people worldwide. Of those 2,300, Katie was the company’s first female to land a spot in the c-suite. (Today, 45 percent of the company’s vice presidents are women.) And on this episode, Katie is answering all of your career-related questions! From negotiating raises and promotions to navigating tricky bosses, office politics, and big career changes, Katie has brilliant advice for all of it. You’re going to want to take notes for this one!

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Katie talks about her upcoming sabbatical and how she plans to spend it (1:30)
Katie’s best advice for building and strengthening confidence (3:10)
Katie’s take on “being nice” (5:00)
What to know about making a career change (9:00)
What are the top three things that make a resume stand out? (13:00)
Do you really need to know someone to get a job at a company? (14:00)
What should an awesome cover letter look like? (15:00)
Applying for more than one job or role at a company: Yay or nay? (16:00)
How to explain a gap in employment to be a stay-at-home parent (16:30)
How do I know what I’m worth? (18:20)
How to negotiate your salary (21:25)
Everything to know about raises (25:15)
Maternity leave: When to tell your boss and how to negotiate the terms (28:00)
How not to get talked over or disrespected during meetings (34:20)
How to handle an unresponsive, disengaged boss (36:25)
What to do when you and your friend are both up for the same job or promotion (38:00)
What to do when you love your job and field, but everyone around you is miserable (39:30)
How to apply for a different role within your current company, and when to tell your manager (42:10)
How to be a standout employee during your first 30–90 days at a new job (44:15)
How to deal with insecurity at a new job (46:30)
How do I figure out what I actually want to do with my life? (48:00)

What we mention on this episode:

HubSpot

Oprah’s Super Soul Conversations with Marianne Williamson

Kim Scott’s Radical Candor

Werk

Glassdoor

Jeni’s Ice Cream

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83. Ryan Linden, Ironman, Entrepreneur, & Husband to Des Linden Jul 19, 2018

“I had no idea there was a camera on me. But yes, I have seen all the memes.” — Ryan Linden

If Ryan Linden’s last name sounds familiar, that’s because yes, he is married to 2018 Boston Marathon champion Desiree Linden. Ryan was the undeniably proud face the cameras kept cutting to as Des neared the historic Boston finish line, and on this episode, he breaks down every detail from that life-changing Marathon Monday — from his perspective! He also shares what Des is really like on race morning, how they met and got engaged, and how they balance their intense work and training schedules. In addition to being a super husband and stellar spectator, Ryan is also a tremendous athlete himself: He’s a 2:26 marathoner turned Ironman, and is hoping to return to Kona to compete this year. He’s also a new business owner and entrepreneur: Ryan, along with Des and fellow runner-husband-and-wife team Ben and Sarah True, founded Linden & True Coffee earlier this year to much fanfare.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Ryan explains what he does for a living, where his Ironman pursuits fit into that lifestyle, and how he became a competitive athlete (4:05)
What motivates Ryan, and what the “Linden on the run” partnership is like (9:15)
What a day in the life of Ryan is like, and whether he still dreams of a 2:22 marathon and Olympic Trials qualifier (12:30)
How Ryan and Des met, started dating, and got engaged — plus what went down at the 2010 Chicago Marathon (17:00)
What Ryan and Desiree’s relationship dynamic is like, and whether they ever get competitive with each other (23:20)
Ryan shares what Des is like on race morning, then breaks down the 2018 Boston Marathon from his perspective (30:30)
What it was like seeing Des make that final turn about to win the Boston Marathon (41:45)
What post-Boston life has been like for the Lindens, including walking the red carpet at the Billboard Music Awards, and what Ryan wants to see Des do next (44:00)
How and why Des, Ryan, and Ben and Sarah True decided to start Linden & True Coffee, and what that process has been like (46:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Desiree Linden on Episode 64 of the Ali on the Run Show

Desiree Linden on Episode 77 of the Ali on the Run Show

Linden & True Coffee

Mallory Safety & Supply

Tracksmith

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82. Tim & Jessica Murphy, Co-Founders of BibRave Jul 11, 2018

“You have to be OK with hearing no, but also not letting that be the last thing that you hear.’” — Tim Murphy

Tim and Jessica Murphy are the husband-and-wife team behind BibRave — the Yelp for running races. They’re the ultimate industry insiders, and on this episode, they share their journey to becoming entrepreneurs (before going all-in on BibRave, Jessica worked at LinkedIn, Nike, and Runner’s World, and Tim worked just about everywhere, doing a little of everything), and the challenges they’ve faced along the way. They open up about the moments — and emails! — that made them question what they were doing, and ultimately share what has made BibRave so successful. Plus, Tim (an ultra runner) and Jessica (a 20-time marathoner) talk about what they’ve learned from the BibRave community, and what people really love and really hate about races. This is a must-listen for aspiring entrepreneurs or anyone who has thought about going into business with a significant other.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Tim and Jessica share how they came up with the idea for BibRave, and when they realized it could be a viable business (5:00)
What Tim and Jessica were doing before they became entrepreneurs, and how their careers prepared them to make them jump (11:45)
Who’s the boss at BibRave? (18:20)
How Tim and Jessica actually grew BibRave into a business, and the moments that made them question what they were doing (19:45)
How Tim and Jessica let rejection and tough phone calls roll off their backs (24:30)
What Tim and Jessica fight about, and whether they get sick of each other (26:00)
What Tim and Jessica spend most of their time worrying about, and what’s next for their business (41:15)
What Tim and Jessica say people love — and loathe — most about races (51:20)
Tim and Jessica share their best advice for couples who choose to become business partners (57:40)

What we mention on this episode:

BibRave

Ali on the Run Show Live

North Face Endurance Challenge Series

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81. Rob Krar, Ultra Runner & Mental Health Advocate Jul 05, 2018

“I said, ‘No way am I running Western States! That’s 100 miles!’” — Rob Krar, Western States Endurance Run winner 2014

Rob Krar is one of the kings of ultra running. He was a middle-distance runner through college, but then threw his running shoes in the trash, insisting he was done with running forever. Famous last words: Though Rob did take a break from running (during which time he worked grueling 12-hour graveyard shifts as a pharmacist), he eventually returned to the sport in a big way — as an ultramarathoner. He has won the most prestigious and competitive ultras, including Western States, Leadville, Run Rabbit Run, and a handful of North Face Endurance Challenge races, to name just a few. Rob is also a vocal advocate for mental health, and on this episode he opens up about his struggles with depression. Rob lives in Flagstaff, AZ, with his wife and fellow ultra runner, Christina.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How and why Rob transitioned from the track to ultra running (4:15)
How Rob met his wife, Christina, and the role running plays in their relationship (12:10)
How Rob says he found his purpose through running after a difficult time in his life, and why he became drawn to ultras (18:45)
What Rob’s relationship with pain is like (26:45)
How Rob, who is self-coached, plans his training schedule and goal races (33:50)
Rob’s advice for dealing with injuries, both physically and emotionally (41:10)
What Rob tells people who are interested in getting into ultra running (43:50)
Rob opens up about his mental health struggles and experience with depression (45:45)

What we mention on this episode:

Butler University

Emily Halnon on Episode 1 of the Ali on the Run Show

Dave Mackey

Leadman Series

Depressions short film

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80. Amelia Boone, Ultra Runner & World's Toughest Mudder Jun 28, 2018

"I was so petrified of failure for so long that I never ventured outside of things I knew I was good at." —Amelia Boone

Amelia Boone is a badass. By day, she’s a lawyer at Apple, and by very early morning, she’s a four-time world champion obstacle racer and self-proclaimed “budding ultra runner.” Amelia lives in San Jose, CA, and is a glutton for punishment — hence her race distance of choice being “long.” On this episode, Amelia — who you may recognize as last month’s Runner’s World cover star — talks about why she’s intrigued by failure, why she loves grueling races, and how she gained her mental strength. She reflects on her go at the 2018 Barkley Marathons, and opens up about the pressure to win.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Why the brutality of obstacle races and ultramarathons appeals to Amelia, and why she’s intrigued by fear (2:15)
How Amelia got into obstacle course racing (5:00)
Amelia reflects on her attempt at completing the 2018 Barkley Marathons (11:15)
What it’s like to become the World’s Toughest Mudder (21:15)
What Amelia’s family thinks of her crazy endurance adventures, and how she became a well-known figure in the sports world (27:00)
What a day in the life looks like for Amelia (30:30)
Amelia shares her take on rest days (35:00)
What the pressure to keep winning is like (38:40)
How Amelia found ultra running (41:00)
Amelia shares her best advice for first-time obstacle racers and ultra runners (48:50)

What we mention on this episode:

The Barkley Marathons: The Race That Eats Its Young

Tough Mudder

Spartan Race

“Amelia Boone Is Stronger Than Ever” via Runner’s World

Rest Day Brags

University of Wisconsin Oshkosh

Kilian Jornet

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79. Kayla Itsines Jun 21, 2018

“I’ve been doing this for three years now and I’m still not used to it. I still get nervous. I worry, am I saying the right thing? Do they like me? Am I funny enough?” —Kayla Itsines

With nearly 10 million followers on Instagram, and 22 million on Facebook, Kayla Itsines is arguably the world’s most famous fitness personality and trainer right now. She’s the co-creator of the Bikini Body Guides (BBG) workouts (those 28-minute, deceptively tough workouts everyone’s posting about on Instagram) and the brains behind the Sweat app, and she is a bona-fide global sensation. But Kayla, who is from Adelaide, Australia, doesn’t think of herself as famous — and that was definitely never the plan. She just wanted to be a personal trainer and to help women, and along the way she built a multi-million dollar business, a massive reputation, a super supportive community, and a team of 100 employees.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Whether being today’s most popular and influential trainer and fitness personality was the future young Kayla Itsines saw for herself, and how she turned her lifestyle into a business (2:25)
Whether Kayla enjoys being an entrepreneur (5:15)
The a-ha moment that made Kayla realize she had found her place (7:15)
Why Kayla gets nervous before her boot camps (8:15)
What Kayla’s family thinks of their Insta-famous relative (10:20)
Why Kayla decided to call her workouts Bikini Body Guides, and what that means to her (11:00)
How Kayla and her fiancé, Tobi, met (11:45)
How Kayla hires, manages, and oversees a 100-person team, and what a day in the life looks like for her (15:25)
Why Kayla doesn’t want someone taking over her Instagram (17:30)
How Kayla created the BBG workouts (18:00)
Whether there’s pressure that comes with having a massive following, and whether Kayla likes being famous (20:45)
Kayla opens up about what her relationship with her body is like (27:25)
Kayla shares what her diet is like (29:50)
Kayla’s tips for building body confidence (31:10)
Whether Kayla is bothered by negative comments (32:50)
Kayla’s best Instagram advice (35:20)

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78. Wesley Little, Couples Therapist Jun 14, 2018

“You can make a career shift at any time. Because why not pursue something that you think would make you happy?” —Wesley Little

Wesley Little is a licensed professional counselor specializing in couples therapy, and she’s here to answer all of my — and your — burning questions. On this episode, Wesley talks about her indirect route to becoming a therapist (including a detour through law school), and the schooling and education required to pursue a similar career. She debunks common misconceptions about therapy, explains why most couples seek therapy together, and shares what she thinks holds most people back from seeing a therapist. Now more than ever, this conversation is so important, and I hope you enjoy it. (Plus, Wesley and her husband are both two-time marathoners. As for whether they have a “perfect marriage” and never fight? I asked. And she answered.)

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What you’ll get on this episode:

How Wesley decided to become a therapist, and what her journey to her dream career entailed (3:10)
The kind of therapy Wesley practices, and why she decided she wanted to work with couples (9:45)
Wesley debunks some common misconceptions about couples therapy (13:40)
Wesley’s advice for finding a therapist, and what she says holds most people back from going to therapy (15:10)
Wesley breaks down the most common reasons couples seek therapy (20:20)
When is the right time to start seeing a therapist? And how do you get your partner to agree if he or she is hesitant? (29:25)
Wesley opens up about her own relationship, and how running plays a role in it (38:00)
Wesley shares whether or not she thinks you should go to bed angry (43:00)
Wesley answers listener questions! (45:15)

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77. Ali on the Run Show LIVE! Featuring Meb Keflezighi, Andrea Barber, Chris Heuisler, and Des Linden Jun 07, 2018

“In order to find out what you can do, you have to show up. Give yourself a chance and see what happens.” —Desiree Linden

When I launched the Ali on the Run Show in February 2017, I knew right away I wanted to eventually host live events. I love sharing conversations on this show every week, but human, in-real-life connection is so powerful. I wanted to have those conversations with a live audience. It was a dream in 2017, and on June 2 at the Westin San Diego Gaslamp Quarter — alongside Meb Keflezighi, Andrea Barber, Chris Heuisler, and Des Linden — it became a reality. Here's the full episode. (And here's a recap from San Diego.)

What you’ll get on this episode:

Why Meb Keflezighi is, according to Chris Heuisler, like Mr. Miyagi (5:20)
How everyone on the panel knows each other (6:00)
What brought everyone to running — and what keeps them running (8:40)
Andrea isn’t a fan of red carpets, but she was happy to do this live show — here’s why (11:00)
The sacrifices Meb, Andrea, and Chris all had to make throughout their careers and lives, in running and beyond (12:10)
What Meb’s retirement looks like (15:00)
“When it comes to running, how do you get your family to get it?” (21:30)
Meb, Andrea, and Chris open up about their insecurities, how they developed their confidence, and mental health (25:45)
How Meb’s identity has changed since retirement, and what it’s like to show up to a race when you’re not there to win (32:20)
“Do you have any haters?” (36:00)
Listener Q&A: Meb’s tips for mastering mental toughness, and everyone shares their favorite spot for a long run (40:30)
Sprint to the Finish — with a surprise guest! (44:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Andrea Barber on Episode 45 of the Ali on the Run Show

Chris Heuisler on Episode 6 of the Ali on the Run Show

Chris Heuisler on Episode 44 of the Ali on the Run Show

Des Linden on Episode 64 of the Ali on the Run Show

Westin Hotels and Resorts

Westin San Diego Gaslamp Quarter

Rock N Roll San Diego

linden & true Coffee

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76. BONUS EPISODE: Brian Cristiano Sprints to the Finish Jun 01, 2018

On this bonus episode, Brian Cristiano, founder and CEO of BOLD Worldwide (and my husband!), tests out a new round of Sprint to the Finish questions. Click here to listen to Brian on Episode 75 of the Ali on the Run Show.

75. Brian Cristiano, CEO of BOLD Worldwide May 31, 2018

“I can’t be that guy that’s lying to myself. I said I was going to go do something, now I have to go do it.” —Brian Cristiano

Brian Cristiano is the founder and CEO of BOLD Worldwide, a media marketing company in New York City. Last year, Brian shared with the world his goal to build BOLD to a $100 million agency, and he’s been working nonstop to make it happen. Brian may be super successful now — and on the road to becoming a $100 millionaire! — but that wasn’t always the case. On this episode, Brian shares how he found himself $250,000 in debt, depressed, and sleeping on his own couch while he rented his one-bedroom apartment to a stranger. He talks about the moves that led to rock bottom, and how he built himself back up from it — and went on to live a debt-free life, without any loans, handouts, or investments. (And yes, Brian is also my husband. But you knew that already.)

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Brian reflects on growing up attending Catholic school, and how that began his “spiral downward!” (2:30)
Brian talks about his relationship with his dad, who passed away when Brian was 17 years old, and shares what high school was like (5:30)
Why Brian decided to drop out of college (11:10)
How Brian became an entrepreneur (14:45)
“Was it easy?” “What a joke. Nope.” Brian opens up about the early challenges of starting a business. (28:45)
How Brian dug himself out of $250,000 in debt and came back after hitting rock bottom (32:00)
How a weekend with Tony Robbins changed Brian’s life (40:40)
Why Brian decided to go public with his big dreams and goals and launch the Growing BOLD docu-series (43:45)
How Brian’s decision to launch Growing BOLD affected our relationship (50:00)
The call that made everything feel worth it (53:30)
Brian’s best advice for making the tough calls and doing that thing you’ve been avoiding (57:30)
What makes Brian feel insecure, and the advice he would give his teenage self (1:00:15)
Brian’s advice for getting out of your comfort zone (1:05:30)
Two empowering steps Brian says to take today to start changing your life (1:13:30)
Brian answers listener questions about building confidence, being in a relationship with someone who is depressed, and his greatest fear (1:16:30)

What we mention on this episode:

Brian on Episode 2 of the Ali on the Run Show

Brian on Episode 17 of the Ali on the Run Show

Brian on Episode 47 of the Ali on the Run Show

Brian on Episode 52 of the Ali on the Run Show

Brian on Episode 57 of the Ali on the Run Show

Brian on Episode 68 of the Ali on the Run Show

Tony Robbins Unleash the Power Within

Grant Cardone

Hank Norman

Growing BOLD Episode 8

Be Obsessed or Be Average by Grant Cardone

Business Unusual with Barbara Corcoran podcast

Ali Wong's "Hard Knock Wife" Netflix special

The Obstacle is the Way by Ryan Holiday

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74. Sarah Clancy, Founder of Sarah Marie Design Studio May 24, 2018

“Yeah, there are times that I have no idea what I’m doing. But that’s part of the fun of it.” —Sarah Fitzpatrick Clancy

Sarah Clancy is the founder and creator of Sarah Marie Design Studio. The runner-specific apparel and accessories company was born two years ago, and almost instantly gained a devoted following including the likes of Kara Goucher, Molly Huddle, and Andrea Barber. Sarah is a work-from-home mom of two and full-time business owner, and on this episode, she shares her successes, failures, struggles, and victories. As for whether entrepreneurship was always the plan? Sarah says she always knew she’d be a business owner, but wasn’t sure what that would look like. It wasn’t until she honed in on her true passions — running the show and running — that she found her niche. Here’s how she made it happen.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Was becoming an entrepreneur and business owner young Sarah’s plan? (3:00)
When, how, and why Sarah launched Sarah Marie Design Studio (6:30)
The biggest challenges and learned curves Sarah faced when she launched her business (12:15)
How Sarah manages being a work-from-home mom of two and business owner (14:45)
The benefits and challenges of being married to a fellow business owner (16:55)
How Sarah Marie Design Studio grew and gained fans like Kara Goucher and Molly Huddle (21:20)
Exactly how much Sarah does (25:45)
Sarah’s career a-ha moment (28:55)
Where Sarah gets her inspiration (34:10)
Sarah’s hopes, dreams, and plans for the future of SMDS (36:40)
Sarah shares her definition of what it means to “work hard,” and admits to the less-sunshine-y aspects of her day-to-day business life (38:00)
Sarah’s advice for work-from-home moms (41:50)

What we mention on this episode:

Sarah Marie Design Studio “Freaking Pregnant” racerback tank

Sarah Marie Design Studio “My Mom is Fast AF” infant bodysuit

Syracuse University

Sarah Marie Design Studio “Congrats On Not Pooping” card

Sarah Marie Design Studio “Elite Marathoner” performance tank

Molly Huddle on Episode 51 of the Ali on the Run Show

Molly Huddle on Episode 66 of the Ali on the Run Show

Sarah Marie Design Studio nail wraps

Sarah Marie Design Studio on the Today show

Sarah Marie Design Studio “Live Easy Run Hard” sweatshirt

Sarah Marie Design Studio “This Wine Tastes Like” wine glass

Sarah Marie Design Studio “Run All the Miles” muscle tank

Sarah Marie Design Studio “Life’s Short, Run Fast” sweatshirt

Sarah Marie Design Studio “Kinda Wanna Run” sweatshirt

Sarah Marie Design Studio “Track Queen” tank

Sarah Marie Design Studio “The Mountains Are Calling” tank

New York Road Runners training

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73. Erin Strout, Runner's World Contributing Editor May 17, 2018

“If you want to give yourself a fair shot, you have to be willing to take a leap and take a risk.” —Erin Strout

Erin Strout was at the Boston Marathon finish line when Meb Keflezighi won the race in 2014. She was there when Shalane Flanagan won the New York City Marathon in 2017, and she was one of the first people to chat with Desiree Linden after her historic 2018 Boston Marathon victory. As a freelance writer and contributor to Runner’s World and Outside Magazine, Erin has made a career out of covering elite athletes at major marathons, small-town races, and the Rio Olympic Games. On this episode, she talks about how she got her start in journalism (she used to be on the front lines at crime scenes!), what it’s really like being a member of the media at high-profile sporting events, and whether she reads the comments on her stories.

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What you’ll get on this episode:

An inside look at the making of Erin’s “Behind the Scenes of Desiree Linden’s Incredible Boston Marathon Win” story for Runner’s World (2:00)
Erin’s take on the 2018 Boston Marathon, and what it’s like being a member of the media during major race weekends (6:35)
What it was like being at the finish when Meb Keflezighi won the 2014 Boston Marathon — and what it was like the year before, covering the Boston Marathon bombings (15:45)
How Erin got her start in journalism in rural Pennsylvania, and how she ended up as a freelancer in Flagstaff, AZ (24:00)
Why Erin loves covering the running industry (34:00)
What Erin says is the biggest challenge in her career right now (41:30)
Whether Erin reads the comments on her stories for Runner’s World (44:20)
Erin’s best advice for aspiring writers, reporters, editors, and freelancers (53:10)

What we mention on this episode:

“Behind the Scenes of Desiree Linden’s Incredible Boston Marathon Win” via Runner’s World

Desiree Linden on Episode 64 of the Ali on the Run Show

Boston Athletic Association

Sarah Lorge Butler

Runner’s World

Josh Cox

Molly Huddle on Episode 66 of the Ali on the Run Show

Sarah Sellers on Episode 69 of the Ali on the Run Show

Fairmont Copley Plaza

Scott Douglas

Galen Rupp

Penn State University

Sales & Marketing Management

Chronicle of Higher Education

Charles Butler

Running Times

“This is a Huge Moment for American Women Marathoners” via Outside Magazine

"Running Home: Inside Shalane Flanagan's Journey to Win Boston" via Runner's World

Race Everything

Bart Yasso

Bowerman Track Club

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72. Liz Plosser, Women's Health Editor in Chief May 10, 2018

“This notion of balance is this unrealistic thing we’re all striving toward. If you allow yourself to know that and believe that, it takes some of the pressure off.” —Liz Plosser

When you picture an editor in chief of a major women’s magazine, your mind probably goes right to Miranda Priestly of The Devil Wears Prada fame. Now picture the opposite — someone brilliant, kind, caring, and passionate in the most upbeat, positive way — and you have Women’s Health editor in chief Liz Plosser. Liz was named EIC of Women’s Health at the beginning of 2018, and her rise to the role wasn’t fueled by fate. Liz, who grew up in Kansas City, MO, worked her marathoning booty off to get to where she is today. After starting out as an investment banking analyst, Liz followed her dreams (literally) and moved into publishing. She started out at Self, and rose through the ranks at Time Out Chicago, Cosmopolitan, Well+Good, Canyon Ranch, SoulCycle, and more. On this episode, Liz discusses the challenges and perks of her job, talks about being a busy mom of three, and shares why she’s proud to be a “nice girl.” Enjoy, and wish Liz luck before she lines up at the start of the Popular Brooklyn Half next weekend!

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What you’ll get on this episode:

Liz answers: Was being the editor in chief of a women’s magazine always the goal? (2:45)
Why Liz traded investment banking for publishing, and what that transition was like (8:25)
The career moves Liz made that led her to her current role as editor in chief of Women’s Health — including the decision to leave New York City for a while (11:30)
Liz’s take on whether the publishing industry is a catty, cutthroat one or a place where mentors and nice girls are easy to come by (20:55)
What it was like getting the call (22:25)
What Liz says makes Women’s Health so special, and whether she was nervous about stepping into the EIC role (24:45)
The words, phrases, stories, and topics Liz and her team are avoiding, and the changes Liz has started implementing at WH (26:30)
What Liz is doing to make Women’s Health different (29:20)
The types of stories that get Liz most excited (33:40)
The types of people Liz wants to hire, plus more career advice (43:20)
Liz talks about meeting her husband, having three kids, and becoming a runner, plus where her relationship with running is at right now (44:45)

What we mention on this episode:

Women’s Health

University of Chicago

How Not to Get Pregnant via Cosmopolitan

SLT

Popular Brooklyn Half

Desi Linden on Episode 64 of the Ali on the Run Show

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71. Lori & David Feller AKA Mom & Dad on the Run May 03, 2018

Lots of people say I’m just like my mom. Others swear I’m a clone of my dad. On this episode, you’ll get to decide! I am thrilled to welcome Lori and David Feller — my parents! — to the Ali on the Run Show. On this episode, we chat about how they met and fell in love (and their stories don’t exactly match up, so I’m siding with my mom on this one), how they survived long-distance dating in college when social media and texting didn’t exist (there was hitchhiking involved), and what it was like having and raising Ryan (my 19-months-older brother) and me. They share their favorite young Ali memories, as well as a few not-so-favorite ones (that speeding ticket wasn't my fault!). We had a blast recording this episode, and I hope you enjoy joining us on our trip down Feller family memory lane.

What you’ll get on this episode:

My mom’s story of how my parents met and when they fell in love (2:40)
My dad’s story of how they met and fell in love (4:10)
What it was like long-distance dating in the 1970s, and how they made it work (6:00)
How my dad proposed to my mom (9:43)
Their thoughts on whether it was a big deal for a Jewish guy to be marrying a Catholic girl, and whether their parents cared (12:50)
What life was like for each of them once they had kids, and what got them to move from Pennsylvania to Contoocook, NH (18:30)
My exciting birth story! (21:45)
My parents talk all about what I was like growing up (25:00)
What it was like raising two kids with Crohn’s disease (36:30)
What made my parents most proud — and most disappointed or frustrated (40:00)
What my parents would have done differently when it came to raising children (45:30)
How my parents feel about running (47:30)
My parents open up about my past relationships, and the moment they met Brian Cristiano (51:30)
How to stay happily married for 36 years (54:40)
How my parents reacted to the news that Brian and I are having a baby (57:30)

What we mention on this episode:

Rider University

University of Delaware

Millersville University

My Crohn’s disease story on Episode 30 of the Ali on the Run Show

Quinnipiac University

16 Handles

Aldo’s Coffee Company Greenport

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70. Katie Burke, Chief People Officer at HubSpot Apr 26, 2018

“The best possible way to start my career was not getting what I wanted. Failure teaches you a lot, and it helped me figure out a path to success that worked for me.” —Katie Burke

Katie Burke is the Chief People Officer at HubSpot, a marketing software company in Boston that employs more than 2,300 people worldwide. And of those 2,300, Katie was the company’s first female to land a spot in the c-suite. (Today, 45 percent of the company’s vice presidents are women.) In this super inspiring conversation, Katie shares why she’s so passionate about empowering women in the workplace, and candidly opens up about her own massive career failures — including how bombing the LSATs turned out to be the best thing that could’ve happened to her. She offers up interviewing advice, explains why prospective employees should add “we” to their vocabularies, and shares the one word she’s trying to add to her own life.

Katie is the oldest of six kids, and she has a fascinating family story. Her dad, Brian Burke, is extremely well-known in the hockey world, and her brother, Brendan, was a hockey player at Miami Ohio when he famously came out as gay to his teammates — and the world. Brendan was later killed in a tragic car accident, and Katie gladly shared stories of his incredible legacy with me.

Of course, Katie is also a runner. She’s a four-time marathoner and 20+-time half-marathoner, and she's currently training for the Popular Brooklyn Half Marathon in May.

Apologies for the slightly off audio on this one! Despite recording in a professional podcast studio, I had the audio settings wrong on my computer. Don’t let a little echo deter you from this fantastic conversation!

What you’ll get on this episode:

What it means to be a Chief People Officer, and how Katie landed this job (1:53)
Katie’s advice for getting over a fear of failure (7:00)
How Hubspot has grown and evolved since Katie became the first woman in the company’s c-suite (8:00)
The best — and worst — things Katie says prospective employees can say in an interview (9:45)
Why Katie is so passionate about empowering women (12:55)
What Katie tells people who say she got her job “because she’s a girl” (14:15)
Where Katie’s confidence comes from (18:30)
Katie’s “strong opinion” on mentors, and why she believes in having a “personal board of advisors” (19:35)
Katie’s biggest piece of advice for women in the workplace (21:10)
The greatest challenge Katie faces at her job (25:30)
Katie’s take on work perks and whether they actually matter (28:00)
What it’s like coming from a big — and very high-achieving — family, and the challenges of having a father who’s in the public eye (29:30)
Katie’s running story, and how she prioritizes workouts with a demanding schedule (39:30)
The advice Katie would give to her younger self (45:45)

What we mention on this episode:

Bates College

HubSpot

“Because I’m a Girl” via Huffington Post

Always #LikeAGirl commercial

Shine Theory

“This 1 Word Will Help You Do Less and Achieve More in 2018” via Inc.

Brian Burke

Calgary Flames

You Can Play Project

Miami University Ohio

“We love you, this won’t change a thing” via ESPN

Portland Half Marathon

JP Morgan Corporate Challenge

Popular Brookyn Half

SoulCycle

Kristin Armstrong

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69. Sarah Sellers, 2nd Female at the 2018 Boston Marathon Apr 19, 2018

“I think that’s what unites us as runners — we’re all trying to overcome excuses and doubts to get out there.” —Sarah Sellers

“Who is Sarah Sellers?” That’s the question everyone was asking after the Tucson, AZ runner finished second at the 2018 Boston Marathon. Sarah isn’t a professional runner. She doesn’t have a sponsor. And she paid her own Boston Marathon entry fee. But on a brutally rainy and windy day in Boston, the 26-year-old nurse anesthetist ran a 2:44.04 — good enough to land her in the spot behind winner Desi Linden. Sarah had no idea she finished second (and, in doing so, nabbed a cool $75,000 prize), and when we recorded this episode just 48 hours after the race, she was still processing the results. Enjoy as she breaks down every detail from before, during, and after the race — including the surreal moment when she passed Shalane Flanagan! (And fun fact: Boston was only Sarah’s second marathon ever!)

What you’ll get on this episode:

Sarah shares how she’s feeling 48 hours after placing second at the Boston Marathon (1:30)
What Sarah’s Boston buildup was like, and how she balances high-mileage training with a demanding full-time job (4:20)
The very cute story of how Sarah met her husband, Blake (8:00)
How working long days helped prepare Sarah for Marathon Monday (8:45)
Whether Sarah ever considered dropping out on race day (9:45)
Sarah’s unexpected pre-race detour (10:00)
Sarah shares her pre-race goals and the weather factors she dreads the most (11:35)
What it was like starting with the elite field (13:00)
Sarah breaks down the race from the soaking start to that triumphant finish (16:10)
What it was like passing Shalane Flanagan (19:00)
How Sarah found out she finished in second place (20:45)
How Sarah plans to spend her $75,000 winnings (26:00)
The moment that stands out as the ultimate high point from Sarah’s Boston Marathon experience (27:00)
What’s next? (30:30)

What we mention on this episode:

Boston Athletic Association

Deena Kastor

Acadia National Park

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68. We're Having a Baby! Apr 12, 2018

“We’re gonna go through tough times. And we’re gonna be fine.”

Brian and I are so excited to tell the world that we are having a baby! I am 12 weeks pregnant (at the time we recorded this), and am due October 23. On this episode, we answer all the questions we keep getting from friends, family, and total strangers (namely, “Was this planned?! Were you trying?!”), and share how we’re both feeling, why we’re frustrated with the medical system (as usual!), and whether we think Ellie knows she’s about to be a big sister (she totally does). Thanks for following along on this crazy ride — we can’t wait to share it all with you.

What you’ll get on this episode:

“Were you trying?! Was this planned?!” (1:30)
How I found out, and how I felt when I got that positive pregnancy test (3:30)
How I told Brian the big news (10:00)
How I’ve been feeling (17:45)
Our experience with doctors so far — the good and the bad (19:20)
How we told our families the news (34:00)
How Brian’s feeling right now (38:35)
My response to people who ask, “Do you want a boy or a girl?” (42:50)
What has surprised us both so far (46:30)
Does Ellie know what’s up? (54:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Brian on Episode 2 of the Ali on the Run Show

Brian on Episode 17 of the Ali on the Run Show

Brian on Episode 47 of the Ali on the Run Show

Brian on Episode 52 of the Ali on the Run Show

Brian on Episode 57 of the Ali on the Run Show

Lilia

The Modern

Orangetheory

Dr. Meggie on Episode 61 of the Ali on the Run Show

Bermuda Triangle Challenge recap

Hackensack UMC

New Jersey Half Marathon

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67. Tina Muir, Host of the Running For Real Podcast Apr 05, 2018

“I’m trying not to call it a comeback because I’m a completely different person now.” —Tina Muir

Tina Muir is an elite runner from England (she’s a 2:36 marathoner!), a new mom, and the host of the Running For Real podcast. Tina went viral last year when she announced her surprising decision to stop running. Her reason: She hadn’t had her period in nine years. Tina opened up about her struggle with amenorrhea and her desire to start a family, and on this episode she explains why she decided to share her story, what it was like going viral and having People magazine write about her period, and what she was afraid people would think about her. Tina also discusses body dysmorphia, how she handled intentionally gaining weight, her eventual pregnancy, and how giving birth compares to running a marathon. And check out Running For Real in a few weeks, when I’ll be Tina’s guest!

This episode is brought to you by Strava, the leading social network for athletes. Click here to join today, and then enter for your chance to win a 2018 TCS New York City Marathon entry and a $500 travel stipend!

What you’ll get on this episode:

What it means to be a professional runner, and how Tina made it work after college (3:30)
Why Tina decided to stop running (6:50)
Tina’s journey with amenorrhea (11:40)
The steps Tina took to try and beat her amenorrhea (17:50)
Why Tina shared her story when she did (20:00)
What it was actually like setting out to gain weight, and how Tina dealt with it emotionally (22:30)
Tina’s timeline: How long it took from when she stopped running to when she got pregnant (28:45)
Why Tina decided to start running again at six weeks pregnant, and how running went throughout her pregnancy (33:50)
How Tina approached childbirth with the same mentality as running a marathon (37:00)
Tina’s triumphant return to running after having a baby — and whether she’s worried about amenorrhea striking again (39:00)
How Tina got into podcasting (42:55)

What we mention on this episode:

Tina in Runner’s World

Tina in People magazine

No Period. Now What?

Hypnobabies

Tina’s take on Hypnobabies

Running For Real

Run to the Top

Kara Goucher on Running For Real

Michael McIntyre

Kelly Roberts

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66. Boston Marathon Talk with Molly Huddle Mar 29, 2018

“I’m bringing the track speed to the marathon.” —Molly Huddle

On April 16, professional runner Molly Huddle will be among a strong field of indomitable American women racing the Boston Marathon. This will only be Molly’s second marathon: She made her 26.2-mile debut at the 2016 TCS New York City Marathon. On this episode, Molly, who is from Rhode Island and chatted with me from Arizona, shares all things Boston: how her training has been going, what she’s excited about, what she’s nervous about, and what she learned from her first marathon that she’ll take with her into her second. Plus, she answers the question I’ve always wanted to ask: How in the world do pro runners grab their water bottles off those tables mid-race without slowing down, missing a bottle, grabbing someone else’s bottle, or dropping a bottle?

What you’ll get in this episode:

How Molly’s feeling a month out from Boston, and how this training cycle has been different from her NYC Marathon training (1:50)
How fast Molly runs her track workouts and how slow she runs her recovery runs (3:30)
Molly reflects on setting a new American half-marathon world record in Houston in January (5:00)
Molly shares the high and low points of Boston Marathon training so far (6:45)
What Molly’s weekly mileage will peak at leading up to Boston (8:50)
Molly’s taper strategy, and her thoughts on tapering (9:15)
Molly’s Boston fueling strategy (11:35)
The greatest lesson Molly says she learned from her first marathon (14:45)
What Molly has that the rest of the American women don’t (15:45)
What race week will look like for Molly (18:50)
Molly shares her Boston Marathon goals (23:30)

What we mention on this episode:

Molly Huddle on Episode 51 of the Ali on the Run Show

Desi Linden on Episode 64 of the Ali on the Run Show

Gatorade Endurance Formula

Saucony

Houston Half Marathon

Deena Kastor

Ugly Delicious

Gatorade Energy Chews

Gatorade Endurance Energy Gels

Jordan Hasay

Sarah Marie Design Studio

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65. Bianna Golodryga, CBS News Correspondent & CNN Contributor Mar 22, 2018

“The stories you tell can change the world.” —Bianna Golodryga

Bianna Golodryga is a CBS News correspondent and a contributor at CNN. She’s the former weekend anchor of Good Morning America, and worked at Yahoo News alongside Katie Couric. Bianna was born in the former Soviet Union and moved to the United States with her parents — and only $150 in their pockets — when she was 18 months old. On this episode, Bianna talks about growing up Russian in Texas (her classmates called her a “Commie Spy,” and she was the only Jewish kid in her entire school), and talks about the decisions that motivated her to move to New York City to pursue a career in finance and, eventually, on television. Bianna has interviewed the world’s top personalities, politicians, and celebrities, from Katy Perry and Reese Witherspoon to Bill Clinton and Borat. (Right before she sat down to record this episode with me, Bianna was interviewing Oprah alongside Gayle King.) Bianna was also the first journalist to interview and talk to the father of the Boston Marathon bombers, and was actually the one to tell him that his sons were the ones behind the bombings. It’s one of many crazy stories Bianna — who is also a mom, a step-mom, and, of course, a runner — shares on this episode, which is a must-listen for anyone who wants to be involved in any aspect of the news or television industry.

This episode is brought to you by Strava, the leading social network for athletes. Click here to join today, and then enter for your chance to win a 2018 TCS New York City Marathon entry and a $500 travel stipend! https://blog.strava.com/nyc-marathon-contest/

What you’ll get in this episode:

What it was like growing up as a Russian Jewish immigrant in Texas (1:30)
How Bianna worked her way from Wall Street to network TV (4:30)
The skills Bianna says you need to get a job in television today (10:35)
What it was like interviewing Oprah (12:30)
How Bianna became an anchor on Good Morning America (17:30)
Why Bianna decided to leave GMA for Yahoo News (20:15)
What Bianna says is the greatest lesson she learned from working with Katie Couric (26:50)
Bianna’s take on being a woman in media right now, and what it’s like covering stories like the Women’s March, the #metoo movement, and Harvey Weinstein-style scandals (30:00)
Bianna reflects on the most life-changing — and most challenging — interviews of her career so far (34:00)
What Bianna wishes everyone understood about consuming news (44:45)
What it’s like being a Russian journalist in today’s crazy news world (48:15)
The very cute and high-profile place Bianna met her husband (50:30)
How Bianna got into running (52:00)
How Bianna manages two demanding jobs, two young kids, and taking care of herself (57:00)

What we mention on this episode:

High School for the Performing and Visual Arts

Maria Bartiromo

60 Minutes

Good Morning America

Bianna Golodryga interviews Warren Buffet

Brooks Running

Shattered: Inside Hillary Clinton’s Doomed Campaign

New York Times The Daily podcast

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64. Desiree Linden Mar 15, 2018

“We fail all the time, and we learn from it and we get better. I think that’s amazing. You fail your way to success. That’s how it happens, and I’m super comfortable with that. I have no problem pointing out a bunch of failures in my career. But I don’t define myself or my career as a failure.” —Des Linden

Desiree Linden is a professional distance runner who has represented the United States at the London and Rio Olympics. She runs for the Hansons-Brooks Distance Project in Michigan, and is a strong, consistent 2:22 marathoner. In one month, Des will race the Boston Marathon, and on this episode she talks about how her training has been going, and why she’s in it to win it. She also talks about why she thinks women are often hesitant to admit their big, scary, awesome goals, and opens up her recent running burnout — and how she busted out of it. Plus, Des talks about failure — and why she’s not afraid of it — and shares her big post-Boston goal. (Hint: She wants to make big moves in 2020.)

This episode is brought to you by Strava, the leading social network for athletes. Click here to join today, and then enter for your chance to win a 2018 TCS New York City Marathon entry and a $500 travel stipend! https://blog.strava.com/nyc-marathon-contest/

What you’ll get in this episode:

How Des is feeling a month out from the Boston Marathon and what her training strategy and approach have been this time around (2:10)
Whether Des has had any of those magical runs yet in her Boston training (4:50)
The marathon taper: Love it or hate it? (6:40)
What would make Desi’s husband say, “She’s batshit crazy” (7:45)
Whether Des is superstitious or what her pre-race rituals entail (9:45)
How Des thinks she’s evolved as a competitive athlete (11:40)
How Des evaluates her race performances (13:00)
What Des is thinking when she’s standing on the start line (13:35)
How Desi became such a consistent runner — and ran perfectly even splits at last year’s Boston Marathon (16:00)
Who Des says is her biggest competition at this year’s Boston Marathon (17:00)
Des shares her best advice for Boston first-timers (18:10)
Whether Des notices spectators when she races — and what YOU need to yell to her when you see her run by! (18:45)
Why Des never looks rattled or emotional when she runs (21:40)
How Des is feeling about the United NYC Half
The women Des loves racing against (24:30)
How Des kicked her running slump (25:05)
How Des feels about the word failure (26:00)
How Des met her husband, Ryan, and the hilarious story about their first encounter (31:05)
How Des would describe herself as a runner (37:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Hansons-Brooks Distance Project

Arizona State University

John Hancock

Joan Benoit Samuelson

Amy Cragg

Maximum Mobility

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64. Desiree Linden Mar 15, 2018

“We fail all the time, and we learn from it and we get better. I think that’s amazing. You fail your way to success. That’s how it happens, and I’m super comfortable with that. I have no problem pointing out a bunch of failures in my career. But I don’t define myself or my career as a failure.” —Des Linden

Desiree Linden is a professional distance runner who has represented the United States at the London and Rio Olympics. She runs for the Hansons-Brooks Distance Project in Michigan, and is a strong, consistent 2:22 marathoner. In one month, Des will race the Boston Marathon, and on this episode she talks about how her training has been going, and why she’s in it to win it. She also talks about why she thinks women are often hesitant to admit their big, scary, awesome goals, and opens up her recent running burnout — and how she busted out of it. Plus, Des talks about failure — and why she’s not afraid of it — and shares her big post-Boston goal. (Hint: She wants to make big moves in 2020.)

This episode is brought to you by Strava, the leading social network for athletes. Click here to join today, and then enter for your chance to win a 2018 TCS New York City Marathon entry and a $500 travel stipend! https://blog.strava.com/nyc-marathon-contest/

What you’ll get in this episode:

How Des is feeling a month out from the Boston Marathon and what her training strategy and approach have been this time around (2:10)
Whether Des has had any of those magical runs yet in her Boston training (4:50)
The marathon taper: Love it or hate it? (6:40)
What would make Desi’s husband say, “She’s batshit crazy” (7:45)
Whether Des is superstitious or what her pre-race rituals entail (9:45)
How Des thinks she’s evolved as a competitive athlete (11:40)
How Des evaluates her race performances (13:00)
What Des is thinking when she’s standing on the start line (13:35)
How Desi became such a consistent runner — and ran perfectly even splits at last year’s Boston Marathon (16:00)
Who Des says is her biggest competition at this year’s Boston Marathon (17:00)
Des shares her best advice for Boston first-timers (18:10)
Whether Des notices spectators when she races — and what YOU need to yell to her when you see her run by! (18:45)
Why Des never looks rattled or emotional when she runs (21:40)
How Des is feeling about the United NYC Half
The women Des loves racing against (24:30)
How Des kicked her running slump (25:05)
How Des feels about the word failure (26:00)
How Des met her husband, Ryan, and the hilarious story about their first encounter (31:05)
How Des would describe herself as a runner (37:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Hansons-Brooks Distance Project

Arizona State University

John Hancock

Meggie Smith on Episode 61 of the Ali on the Run Show

Joan Benoit Samuelson

Amy Cragg

Maximum Mobility

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63. Dr. Meggie Q&A Part II: Fertility, Infertility, Labor, Delivery, & Advice Mar 08, 2018

“Be open-minded and bring snacks.”

Dr. Meggie is back! Meggie Smith made her Ali on the Run Show debut last year, when she was wrapping up her OB/GYN residency at the NYU Langone Medical Center in New York City. After graduating, Meggie moved to California, where she’s currently pursuing her fellowship in reproductive endocrinology and infertility at the University of Southern California. On Part II of this two-part episode, Meggie answers listener questions about fertility, infertility, and giving birth, plus all kinds of personal stuff, like what med school is really like, what it takes to gross her out, how to date when you’re constantly on call, and whether delivering babies every day makes her want one more or less. And listen to the very end, because the last question of this episode might be my favorite.

What you’ll get in this episode:

How long do healthy couples try for a baby? (1:30)
What can I do now to become pregnant in a couple years? (4:00)
Is it ever too early to start taking pre-natal vitamins? (5:50)
Is mid- to late-thirties too late to have kids? (6:20)
How long should you wait to conceive after traveling to a country with the Zika virus? (9:20)
Birth stuff: Meggie’s thoughts on epidural vs. drug-free births (10:20)
What do OB/GYNs really think about birth plans? (11:40)
Meggie’s best advice for someone going into labor & the biggest myth about labor (14:00)
Postpartum stuff — including why you’re peeing a little when you run (15:15)
Are some vaginas weird? (19:20)
Meggie’s best advice for studying for the MCATs (21:00)
Meggie’s experience with burnout (26:00)
Dating & doctoring (28:00)
Whether delivering babies every day makes Meggie want one more or less (32:25)

What we mention on this episode:

Meggie Smith on Episode 27 of the Ali on the Run Show

NYU Langone Medical Center

University of Southern California

Meggie's Every Mother Counts / NYC Half fundraiser

Every Mother Counts

Jamie & Jeff’s Birth Plan via McSweeney’s

Abby Bales on Episode 49 of the Ali on the Run Show

Queer Eye for the Straight Guy

Think Coffee

One More Shot on Netflix

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62. Gabe Grunewald, Professional Runner & 4-Time Cancer Survivor Mar 01, 2018

“It’s OK to struggle, but it’s not OK to give up.” —Gabe Grunewald

Gabriele “Gabe” Grunewald is a professional middle-distance runner and four-time rare cancer survivor from Minneapolis, MN. Gabe was first diagnosed with Adenoid Cycstic Carcinoma when she was in college and undoubtedly in the best shape of her life. Instead of finishing her college running career on a high note — or, better yet, a podium — Gabe was faced with a difficult and scary diagnosis. She’s undergone several surgeries, including having more than half of her liver removed after the third time the cancer came back. But Gabe keeps fighting, smiling, and running. On this episode, she talks about the difference between fighting and giving up, and explains what it means to be “brave like Gabe.” She also talks about her current project: training Fixer Upper star Chip Gaines for his first marathon!

This episode is brought to you by Strava, the leading social network for athletes. Click here to join today, then enter for your chance to win a 2018 TCS New York City Marathon entry and a $500 travel stipend!

What you’ll get in this episode:

How Gabe became a professional runner — and why that was never the plan (3:00)
Gabe’s first cancer diagnosis (4:45)
Gabe’s third — and scariest — cancer diagnosis, and the hug that saved her life (11:00)
How Gabe handled each diagnosis emotionally (16:25)
The aftermath of Gabe’s liver surgery, followed by her fourth diagnosis (18:25)
Gabe explains her current immunotherapy treatment plan (20:50)
How cancer has changed Gabe’s relationship with running (23:05)
How Gabe maintains her optimistic outlook even after four cancer diagnoses (25:55)
How the running community has supported Gabe throughout her health struggles (27:45)
The difference between fighting and giving up (28:35)
How Gabe’s diagnoses and treatment will affect her fertility and hopes for a family (32:30)
What it means to be #bravelikegabe (37:15)
What it’s like training Fixer Upper star Chip Gaines for his first marathon! (40:55)
Chip’s time goal for his debut marathon (47:50)
Introducing the Brave Like Gabe Foundation (48:40)

What we mention on this episode:

Brooks Running

Arizona State University

University of Minnesota

Fixer Upper

Chip Gaines

Silo District Marathon

Brave Like Gabe Foundation: bravelikegabe.org — coming soon!

Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center

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61. Dr. Meggie Q&A Part I: Egg Freezing, Periods, Hormones, & Birth Control Feb 22, 2018

“KonMari your life, KonMari your uterus.” —Meggie Smith

Dr. Meggie is back! Meggie Smith made her Ali on the Run Show debut last year, when she was wrapping up her OB/GYN residency at the NYU Langone Medical Center in New York City. After graduating, Meggie moved to California, where she’s currently pursuing her fellowship in reproductive endocrinology and infertility at the University of Southern California. On Part I of this two-part episode, Meggie talks about life in L.A., her recent decision to freeze her eggs and what the retrieval process was like, and the mental and emotional struggles she’s been experiencing. Then, we kick off the Q&A! This week, Dr. Meggie answers listener questions about periods, sex, hormones, and birth control.

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What you’ll get in this episode:

An update on Meggie’s life since the last time she was on the Ali on the Run Show, including whether she actually likes life in Los Angeles (2:30)
Meggie opens up about her recent mental health struggles (7:55)
Ice, Ice, Baby! Meggie’s egg freezing experience (15:25)
Why Meggie says the day of her egg retrieval was the best day of her life, plus how she felt after the procedure (23:45)
What Meggie says is the ideal age for egg freezing — and when it’s too late (30:00)
Why Meggie’s running the UA NYC Half, and how you can support her training (34:00)
Disclaimer time! (35:20)
The listener Q&A portion begins! First category: periods (36:55)
The organic vs. regular tampon debate (40:50)
Meggie answers your sex questions! (45:10)
Hormones and birth control Q&A (50:40)

What we mention on this episode:

Meggie Smith on Episode 27 of the Ali on the Run Show

NYU Langone Medical Center

University of Southern California

USC Center for Work and Family Life

Egg Freezing Calculator

Win an entry to the 2018 TCS New York City Marathon, courtesy of Strava