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    Software How-To

    AI DevOps Podcast

    The AI DevOps Podcast is a show for those shipping software using AI, .NET, Azure, and DevOps. Each show brings you hard-hitting interviews with industry experts, innovating better methods, and sharing success stories. Sponsoring the podcast is Clear Measure, a software architecture and engineering firm that implements AI to empower software teams to establish quality, achieve stability, and increase speed. Hosted by CTO & Chairman, Jeffrey Palermo.

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    Ted Neward: Managing A Software Engineering Department - Episode 299 May 27, 2024
    Show notes

    Ted Neward is sometimes referred to as "The Dude of Software," owing to both his remarkable (some say frightening) resemblance to the Jeff Bridges character from "The Big Lebowski," and his ordination as a Dudeist Minister of the Church of the Latter-Day Dude, but he's also been called the "Dr. Gregory House of Software," owing to his tendency to pull no punches when talking about software and how to deliver it successfully. He's comfortable answering to either title, as well as a few others. He's familiar with more programming languages than most people knew existed and hasn't found one yet that he couldn't turn into a "mission-critical" application when asked.

    Topics of Discussion:

    [4:36] Ted talks about building a tribe and developing a community.

    [6:48] Leveraging the "who you know" network.

    [7:21] Tips for keeping track of your network.

    [9:44] Effective software team management.

    [13:10] The importance of shifting perspective from individual success to team success.

    [16:16] The component of compassion in management.

    [17:53] Managers should actually want to be managers.

    [18:43] Retaining employees and realizing that management skills need to be recognized and developed.

    [27:02] The tipping point of needing to hire a full-fledged IT department.

    [32:34] Advice for managers on the people side.

    [34:08] Team success metrics, weekly one-on-ones, and building psychological safety.

    [38:32] Importance of team happiness and direct communication with executives for successful software development.

    [43:52] Developing the skills of leadership.

    [44:39] Remembering that not all management is evil.

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    Clear Measure Way

    Architect Forum

    Software Engineer Forum

    Programming with Palermo — New Video Podcast! Email us at programming@palermo.net.

    Clear Measure, Inc. (Sponsor)

    .NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon!

    Jeffrey Palermo's Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events!

    C# In a Nutshell

    ted.neward@gmail.com

    Ted Neward LinkedIn

    Neward Associates

    Want to Learn More?

    Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.


    Dan Garfield: GitOps with Kubernetes - Episode 298 May 20, 2024
    Show notes

    Dan Garfield is the Co-founder of Codefresh, a CI/CD platform powered by GitOps and Argo now acquired by Octopus Deploy. As the VP Open Source and Argo Maintainer, he works primarily on Argo CD and Argo Rollouts. He helped create the GitOps Working Group and Open GitOps Principles. He helped create the most popular GitOps certification with Argo CD and writes consistently about best practices for GitOps involving Security, Development processes, and scaling.

    Topics of Discussion:

    [2:37] Dan Garfield's career journey and his interest in technology from a young age.

    [4:17] The inspiration behind creating Codefresh.

    [7:57] Going all in on Kubernetes.

    [9:55] Meeting Paul, the CEO of Octopus.

    [10:37] We're still in the early days of Kubernetes.

    [12:27] What's the default choice for deploying to Kubernetes?

    [15:08] The importance of unified software delivery.

    [16:50] Linux native crowd adopted containers first, while .NET developers were slow to adopt due to compatibility issues.

    [22:53] What does Argo CD do?

    [25:04] GitOps Principles.

    [29:28] Managing microservices in a dynamic infrastructure.

    [32:29] Environment management, promotion workflows, and traceability.

    [34:30] Where exactly the balance between Argo and CodeFresh fits in.

    [35:09] GitOps Certification.

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    Clear Measure Way

    Architect Forum

    Software Engineer Forum

    Programming with Palermo — New Video Podcast! Email us at programming@palermo.net.

    Clear Measure, Inc. (Sponsor)

    .NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon!

    Jeffrey Palermo's Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events!

    Dan Garfield LinkedIn

    What is GitOps?

    Learning Codefresh

    GitOps Certification

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    Richard Campbell: The Future of Software - Episode 297 May 13, 2024
    Show notes

    Richard Campbell wrote his first line of code in 1977. His career has spanned the computing industry on both the hardware and software sides, development, and operations. He was a co-founder of Strangeloop Networks, acquired by Radware in 2013, and was on the board of directors of Telerik, which was acquired by Progress Software in 2014. Today, he is a consultant and advisor to a number of successful technology firms and is the founder and chairman of Humanitarian Toolbox (www.htbox.org), a public charity that builds open-source software for disaster relief. Richard also hosts three podcasts: .NET Rocks! (www.dotnetrocks.com) for .NET developers, RunAs Radio (www.runasradio.com) for IT Professionals, and Windows Weekly (https://twit.tv/shows/windows-weekly).

    Topics of Discussion:

    [2:24] Richard's podcasting career over 20 years and his advice for new podcasters.

    [6:30] The common topics that Richard talks about.

    [11:32] Adaptive cruise control and limitations of current AI.

    [13:34] Potential for autonomous trucks and freight trains.

    [16:12] Improving software user experience with machine learning.

    [17:32] How AI may change (and not change) 10 years from now.

    [19:32] How the voice interface has gotten better.

    [22:21] The impact of automation on software development jobs.

    [28:19] The appropriate uses of low-code platforms.

    [33:29] Habits vs. wisdom.

    [37:25] The future of augmented reality.

    [39:15] Importance of experimenting with different tools.

    [42:43] How augmented reality may disrupt smartphones.

    [43:49] Jamming out on your tools, much like a musician experimenting.

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    Clear Measure Way

    Architect Forum

    Software Engineer Forum

    Programming with Palermo — New Video Podcast! Email us at programming@palermo.net.

    Clear Measure, Inc. (Sponsor)

    .NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon!

    Jeffrey Palermo's Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events!

    "Richard Campbell on the History of .NET - Episode 133"

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    Philip Japikse: Migrating from .NET Framework to .NET 8 - Episode 296 May 06, 2024
    Show notes

    An international speaker, Microsoft MVP, ASPInsider, MCSD, PSM II, PSD, and PST, and a passionate member of the developer community, Phil has been working with .NET since the first betas, developing software for over 35 years, and heavily involved in the agile community since 2005 as well as a Professional Scrum Trainer. Phil has taken over the best-selling Pro C# books (Apress Publishing), including Pro C# 10, is the President of the Cincinnati .NET User's Group (Cinnug.org), and the Cincinnati Software Architect Group, co-hosted the Hallway Conversations podcast (Hallwayconversations.com), founded and runs the CincyDeliver conference (Cincydeliver.org), and volunteers for the National Ski Patrol. During the day, Phil works as the CTO for Pintas & Mullins. Phil always enjoys learning new tech and is always striving to improve his craft.

    Topics of Discussion:

    [3:47] Philip's career journey and why he's still hands-on coding.

    [5:37] Sometimes it's not a technical problem, but a process or human interaction problem.

    [6:37] Philip's love of mentoring.

    [8:18] The importance of collaboration.

    [9:53] Challenges in migrating applications from .NET Framework to .NET Core.

    [12:55] The importance of staying current.

    [14:48] Modernizing legacy web applications using .NET Core.

    [19:22] Rebuilding an old app using new technology, with challenges and lessons learned.

    [24:22] Gradually introducing a new screen using feature flags is better than a "big bang" rewrite.

    [26:01] Continuous deployment helps to roll out new features gradually to limited users.

    [27:53] Differences between the .NET framework and .NET Core apps, including configuration settings to environmental awareness.

    [34:59] Philip's favorite resources to dig into, including his book.

    [41:20] The power of collaborative learning.

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    Clear Measure Way

    Architect Forum

    Software Engineer Forum

    Programming with Palermo — New Video Podcast! Email us at programming@palermo.net.

    Clear Measure, Inc. (Sponsor)

    .NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon!

    Jeffrey Palermo's Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events!

    "Philip Japikse: Professional C# in .NET - Episode 230"

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    Brady Gaster: .NET Cloud Native - Episode 295 Apr 29, 2024
    Show notes

    Brady Gaster is a Principal Program Manager on the .NET and Visual Studio team at Microsoft where he works on Orleans, SignalR, microservices, APIs, and integration with Azure service teams in hopes of making it exciting for developers who work on .NET apps to party in the cloud!

    Topics of Discussion:

    [2:49] Brady's career highlights and how throwing parties prepared him for Microsoft.

    [4:07] History of Microsoft's publishing tools and their evolution towards cloud-native development.

    [7:37] Using Azure Container Apps for containerization and publishing to Kubernetes.

    [13:42] Using Aspire for containerized applications in Azure, including toolchain and orchestration.

    [17:36] Simplifying software development with automation.

    [23:27] Azure subscriptions and provisioning for developers.

    [25:38] AZD infra synth.

    [26:15] Using Azure DevOps and Azure Development Environments for named environments in .NET development.

    [30:39] The system of record for the names of the environments.

    [37:13] What we can look forward to with the next release.

    [38:37] What should we know about Microsoft Learn so far?

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    Clear Measure Way

    Architect Forum

    Software Engineer Forum

    Programming with Palermo — New Video Podcast! Email us at programming@palermo.net.

    Clear Measure, Inc. (Sponsor)

    .NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon!

    Jeffrey Palermo's Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events!

    "Brady Gaster: Orleans — Episode 221"

    NET Aspire Preview 4

    .NET Aspire Documentation

    Brady Gaster

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    Raziel Tabib: GitOps - Episode 294 Apr 22, 2024
    Show notes

    Raziel is the Senior Vice President of Codefresh at Octopus Deploy. He is an entrepreneur, technology enthusiast, and software developer at heart. He is the Founder of Codefresh and is passionate about accelerating the way software is disrupting our day-to-day life by simplifying the way we deploy applications.

    Topics of Discussion:

    [2:23] When Raziel first got interested in making a difference in the industry.

    [3:05] The role of the software developer has evolved over time.

    [7:11] What is GitOps?

    [14:46] Overlap with the concept of infrastructure as code.

    [14:57] Simplifying software deployment using GitOps.

    [20:44] Why it's an exciting time to be in software development.

    [22:55] What can we do with Codefresh?

    [25:24] Does Codefresh work with other infrastructure types?

    [26:29] Storing and managing application configuration and infrastructure code in separate Git repositories.

    [29:10] What are the most common reasons this infrastructure repository would have a commit pushed to it?

    [35:27] Codefresh joining Octopus Deploy.

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    Clear Measure Way

    Architect Forum

    Software Engineer Forum

    Programming with Palermo — New Video Podcast! Email us at programming@palermo.net.

    Clear Measure, Inc. (Sponsor)

    .NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon!

    Jeffrey Palermo's Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events!

    Codefresh

    OpenGitOps

    Want to Learn More?

    Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.


    Glenn Condron: .NET Web Development - Episode 293 Apr 15, 2024
    Show notes

    Glenn is a Principal Product Manager for the App Platform team within the Developer Division at Microsoft, focusing on .NET. Before joining Microsoft, Glenn was a developer in Australia where he worked on software for various government departments.

    Topics of Discussion:

    [2:47] Glenn's career path.

    [6:33] The old .NET vs the new .NET.

    [8:09] .NET was initially Windows-only but is now being rebuilt as open-source, cross-platform software.

    [9:40] The evolution of .NET.

    [9:53] .NET core.

    [14:04] New features and ideas presented at .NET Conf.

    [16:26] Aspire.

    [18:58] Every piece of an Aspire solution uses open Telemetry as a standard.

    [19:26] Redis.

    [27:15] Aspire knows all the "what' and "how" to deploy to the cloud, without explicit cloud knowledge.

    [32:36] The intent of AZD.

    [36:57] Handling the components of Aspire.

    [40:21] How to add custom resources to Aspire.

    [41:00] Opinionated vs non-opinionated development in the .NET ecosystem.

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    Clear Measure Way

    Architect Forum

    Software Engineer Forum

    Programming with Palermo — New Video Podcast! Email us at programming@palermo.net.

    Clear Measure, Inc. (Sponsor)

    .NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon!

    Jeffrey Palermo's Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events!

    Glenn Condron on New Capabilities on .NET - Ep 58

    Glenn C GitHub

    DevBlogs Glenn C

    Building Cloud Native Apps with .NET 8

    Introducing .NET Aspire

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    Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.


    Richard Hundhausen: Product Ownership - Episode 292 Apr 08, 2024
    Show notes

    Richard Hundhausen helps software organizations and teams deliver better products by understanding and leveraging Azure DevOps and Scrum. He is a Professional Scrum Trainer, Professional Scrum Developer, author of Professional Scrum with Azure DevOps (MS Press), and co-creator of the Nexus Scaled Scrum framework. As a software developer and consultant with over 30 years of experience, he understands that software is built and delivered by people and not by processes or tools.

    Topics of Discussion:

    [3:03] Is it really that easy to teach developers?

    [3:34] Scrum implementation and best practices for developers and managers.

    [5:11] What is a Scrum trainer and developer?

    [6:40] Reminding teams to talk to each other and deliver value earlier.

    [6:47] Remembering not just the nouns, but the verbs: improve, collaborate, share, love the values, commit, have courage, be open, have focus, and be respectful.

    [8:39] The importance of having the right teams.

    [12:04] Improving software development efficiency through cross-functional teams.

    [13:47] The importance of being a self-managing team.

    [15:04] When we outsource everything to HR to find a good culture, that can perpetuate the "it's someone else's job" mentality.

    [15:24] Bigger companies vs. smaller companies.

    [17:44] Giving creatives the space to create.

    [21:09] HDD (Hypothesis-driven development) can help us learn early and adapt.

    [29:27] The importance of focusing on outcomes and impacts, rather than just measuring resources, activities, and outputs.

    [31:08] Outcomes and impacts are where we should be focused.

    [32:40] One percent of product owners using Scrum as intended?

    [33:27] Even if you don't have a product owner, have someone who orders the work.

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    Clear Measure Way

    Architect Forum

    Software Engineer Forum

    Programming with Palermo — New Video Podcast! Email us at programming@palermo.net.

    Clear Measure, Inc. (Sponsor)

    .NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon!

    Jeffrey Palermo's Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events!

    Accentient

    Upgrade Your Team

    Daniel Pink

    Practicing Hypothesis-Driven Development in Azure DevOps

    "Richard Hundhausen on Professional Scrum — Ep 100"

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    Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.


    Mads Torgersen: The Latest in C# - Episode 291 Apr 01, 2024
    Show notes

    Mads is the Lead Designer of the C# language and has been at Microsoft for 18 years. Prior to this, Mads was a professor and contributed to a language starting with J. He was previously on episode 164 of the podcast where he spoke about the latest on C# at the time.

    Topics of Discussion:

    [3:40] The serendipitous career path Mads took that led him to C# and Microsoft.

    [6:17] Where are the high points of where the C# language has gone over the past six months?

    [7:40] Adding a unified syntax.

    [10:00] Primary constructors.

    [15:43] Some new features in C# are still too early to see their full impact, but we can still have hypotheses about how they will affect programming.

    [16:14] Non-nullable conversion.

    [21:45] Learning C# and its evolution.

    [23:24] The concept of everyday C#.

    [26:15] C# goals.

    [33:02] Does C# have a clear category?

    [39:41] Generative AI.

    [41:16] AI's impact on coding and the impact generative AI is having on development.

    [47:17] Will AI replace the career opportunities for developers?

    [51:21] Acknowledging the disruptive nature of AI with also the belief that it will lead to societal changes, including job displacement, and hopes for environmentally sustainable productivity gains.

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    Clear Measure Way

    Architect Forum

    Software Engineer Forum

    Programming with Palermo — New Video Podcast! Email us at programming@palermo.net.

    Clear Measure, Inc. (Sponsor)

    .NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon!

    Jeffrey Palermo's Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events!

    Github.com/CSharplang

    Ep #164: Mads Torgersen on C#10 and .NET6

    Microsoft C# documentation

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    Mark Miller: Voice User Interface - Episode 290 Mar 25, 2024
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    Mark Miller, is an eight-year C# MVP with strong expertise in decoupled design, plug-in architectures, and great user interfaces. He is the Chief Architect of the IDE Tools division at Developer Express, as well as the visionary force behind productivity tools like CodeRush. Mark is a top-ranked speaker at conferences around the world and has been creating tools for software for almost four decades. On top of all that, Mark also streams live C# and typescript coding and design on Twitch.TV/CodeRushed!

    Topics of Discussion:

    [4:12] Mark's passion for creating developer tools.

    [7:08] Why Mark loves developer tooling.

    [7:52] UI design and developer tools with a focus on efficiency.

    [10:35] Mark recounts his early days in UI.

    [12:41] AP testing is starting to grow in popularity.

    [13:38] User experience design evolution and paradigm shifts.

    [15:25] Using voice commands for coding and software development.

    [20:25] Using Azure Cognitive Services for fast file opening and accessibility in Visual Studio.

    [26:31] Voice-to-code technology and its potential impact on software development.

    [31:20] Coding and language use in software development.

    [33:04] Mark shares some code examples.

    [36:25] Using AI for voice commands and file management.

    [45:27] This release promises using simple expressions, but the technology is built to grow.

    [48:06] Customizing voice commands for Visual Studio, including mapping keys and volume thresholds.

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    Clear Measure Way

    Architect Forum

    Software Engineer Forum

    Programming with Palermo — New Video Podcast! Email us at programming@palermo.net.

    Clear Measure, Inc. (Sponsor)

    .NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon!

    Jeffrey Palermo's Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events!

    CodeRush

    Mark Miller — The Science of Great UI in Software Ep #212

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