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    A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast

    We created A Tale of Two Hygienists in 2015 because we are passionate about helping our fellow clinicians be the best version of themselves, both professionally and personally. We Interview experts in their fields to provide better care for our patients while promoting the joys of being a dental hygienist.

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    Latest Episodes:
    206 Oral Bacteria and Alzheimers with Anne O. Rice Dec 18, 2019
    Show notes

    While you might not see the connection at first, there is a connection between poor oral health, poor sleep, and neurodegenerative diseases such as Alzheimer's. To interview this week's guest about the subject, Michelle is joined by the similarly named Machell Hudson, who co-hosts the Reflection Health Podcast on channel 1 of A Tale of Two Hygienists' own Dental Podcast Network!

    Anne O. Rice is a registered dental hygienist and the Sleep Care Coordinator for Sleep Group Solutions, which specializes in dental treatment of snoring and sleep apnea. Anne wants to change the trajectories of Alzheimer's and dementia, and she believes dental professionals can help achieve that by educating patients and taking greater precautions when it comes to bacteria, yeast and other infections.

    In this episode, Anne discusses the relationship between bacterial infection and Alzheimer's/dementia, explains when you need to say "no" to a patient, and reveals why you need to become very good friends with berry hibiscus tea.

    EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:

    Interview starts: 3:17

    - Michelle and Machell reflect on when they first met and how they realized they were kindred spirits.

    - How bacteria, yeast and the herpes virus are "flamethrowers" that kickstart Alzheimer's and associated conditions.

    - Why dental professionals need to impress the long-term effects of bacterial infection to patients, rather than just the aesthetic effects.

    - What should hygienists be looking for when examining patients for bacterial infection?

    - Anne's argument for why dental professionals need to be extremely supportive of patients living with Alzheimer's and similar diseases.

    - Breaking down a study that revealed a significant link between blood pressure and brain health.

    - The relationship between sleep apnea, poor sleep, and neurodegenerative diseases.

    - The science behind why exercise is so crucial for brain health.

    - Taking the proper precautions when working with patients dealing with bacterial infection.

    - How can we make the most of long wait times in a way that benefits patient education?

    QUOTES:

    "When I looked at these modifiable risk factors to prevent the disease, it was stuff that I was doing in my practice."

    "I'm not asking anyone to do anything more than what they're doing, just tweak a little bit and be a little more educated."

    "Vessel health is so crucial to brain health."

    "Mid-life high blood pressure astronomically increases your risk for Alzheimer's disease."

    "Sleep is one of the biggest things. We just really need to take it seriously."

    "Let me be crystal clear: if somebody has a cold sore, please, don't treat them. For their own sake!"

    "Let's protect ourselves a little bit more."

    "You have to get past your fear, and you have to make a difference in some way."

    LINKS:

    Oral Systemic Seminars - https://www.anneorice.com/

    Anne's email: anneorice@gmail.com

    Sleep Group Solutions - https://join.sleepgroupsolutions.com/

    Montreal Cognitive Assessment Test - https://www.mocatest.org/

    Thank you to Paradise Dental Technologies aka PDT for providing sponsorship for this episode!

    Go here to take the test and get your CE credit!

    Be sure to thank the sponsor for this episode by heading over to www.PDTDental.com and picking up a new instrument or telling them thank you in person at one of the conferences!

    THIS EPISODE COUNTS FOR CE! - but read the disclaimer below as it might not count for your state.

    A Tale of Two Hygienists homepage - https://ataleoftwohygienists.com/

    AToTH on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/aTaleOfTwoHygienists/

    AToTH on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ataleoftwohygienists

    AToTH on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/atoth/?originalSubdomain=ca


    TIPisode with Noel Kelsch Dec 13, 2019
    Show notes

    This week's TIPisode is with Noel Brandon-Kelsch.

    The ultrasonic bath is more important in the sterilization process than you may have given it credit for. Noel breaks down how it works, how we monitor, and why hand scrubbing instruments is not advised.

    Send in your infection control questions! Noel would love to answer them for you.

    Medicom sponsors this episode. Head over to their website and learn more about their products to keep you and your patient protected

    https://www.medicom.com/en

    Noel Brandon-Kelsch is an international speaker, writer, Registered Dental Hygienist in Alternative Practice and Director of Cabrillo College Dental Hygiene Program. She is passionate about oral health and has the uncanny ability to motivate and enlighten audiences through her unique humor and cutting edge information. She takes the tough subject matter and presents it in such an exciting way that it becomes thought-provoking even to those not involved in her industry.

    Noel is an infection control guru and is going to bring us tips that can make use more informed clinicians!

    Check out her webpage noelkelsch.com


    205 Vitamins, Gut Health, and Sleep with Dr. Stasha Gominak Dec 11, 2019
    Show notes

    Michelle is joined by co-host Eva Masters Ramsey for the latest A Tale of Two Hygienists interview to discuss anything and everything pertaining to the unexpected relationship between sleep, vitamin intake and oral health.

    Stasha Gominak is a neurologist-turned-sleep coach who learned of the link between chronically poor sleep and chronic illness. As part of RightSleep, she investigates how a little bit of vitamin deficiency can go a long way to causing long-term impacts on the body, including airway paralysis during REM sleep—which leads to a whole host of oral issues!

    In this episode, Stasha discusses how sleep studies led her to focus on the relationship between vitamin intake and bacteria, reveals some of the most important discoveries she's made in the course of her research, and explains how lifestyle changes in the last 200 years have massively impacted health across multiple cultures.

    EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:

    Interview starts: 19:21

    - How did a neurologist like Stasha end up focusing on vitamins and working in the dental field?

    - The unusual and inexplicable commonality Stasha found among a shocking number of sleep study participants.

    - Why Stasha believes there's a link between REM sleep and many physical ailments.

    - How Stasha stumbled across the overlooked relationship between Vitamin D and paralysis during sleep.

    - Stasha's advice for effectively supplementing your vitamin intake.

    - Why it's vital to figure out the correct dosage of Vitamin D for you and your family members.

    - Stasha relates some of her adventures (and misadventures) in administering the right dosage.

    - The reason so necessary to keep your "bugs"—i.e. gut bacteria—healthy.

    - Stasha breaks down the upcoming workbook she's preparing for expectant mothers.

    QUOTES:

    "I think as long as we cure people, we can feel confident that we know what we're doing."

    "Every single one of these people is getting paralyzed too much or not getting paralyzed enough!"

    "Nobody makes money off of Vitamin D—in fact, it's free! If you walk outside without sunscreen you make it yourself!"

    "For every single hormone, too much and too little both screw us up."

    "I recommend that anyone who's listening to this does not play around with Vitamin D unless you're serious about it."

    "The same thing that makes you awake and alert in the day makes you sleep at night."

    "The ultimate outcome is: I don't ever have to have a cavity filled again."

    "We should really come into the discussion with a viewpoint of collaboration and compassion."

    LINKS:

    Stasha's homepage - https://drgominak.com/

    Ulta Lab Tests - https://www.ultalabtests.com/

    Thank you to Paradise Dental Technologies aka PDT for providing sponsorship for this episode!

    Be sure to thank the sponsor for this episode by heading over to www.PDTDental.com and picking up a new instrument or telling them thank you in person at one of the conferences!

    THIS EPISODE COUNTS FOR CE! - but read the disclaimer below as it might not count for your state.

    Go here to take the test and get your CE credit!

    A Tale of Two Hygienists homepage - https://ataleoftwohygienists.com/

    AToTH on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/aTaleOfTwoHygienists/

    AToTH on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ataleoftwohygienists

    AToTH on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/atoth/?originalSubdomain=ca


    TIPisode with Tom Viola Dec 06, 2019
    Show notes

    Dr. Tom Viola does an excellent job of explaining osteoporosis and osteonecrosis. We have so many patients, friends, family members, and maybe even one of us that will have issues with bone density and the medications we need. Tom breaks down some concerns with medications and what to look for with certain meds.

    With over 30 years' experience as a pharmacist, educator, speaker and author, Tom Viola, R.Ph., C.C.P. has earned his reputation as the go-to specialist for delivering quality continuing education content through his informative engaging presentations. Tom's sellout programs provide an overview of the most prevalent oral and systemic diseases and the most frequently prescribed drugs used in their treatment. Special emphasis is given to dental considerations and strategies for effective patient care planning.

    Tom's homepage - http://www.tomviola.com/

    Pharmacology Declassified - http://www.tomviola.com/welcome-to-the-pharmacology-declassified-blog/


    204 Student Focused Presents: Oral Systemic Health Dec 03, 2019
    Show notes

    A Tale of Two Hygienists is once again hosting a roundtable of guests for the benefit of you soon-to-be graduates. This discussion, recorded at Collaboration Cures in Nashville earlier this October, tackles the subject of collaborative care, wherein dental and other health practitioners work together for the benefit of the patients they share.

    Doug Thompson is a dentist and the owner of Integrative Oral Medicine in Bloomfield Hills, Michigan, as well as the founder of Wellness Dentistry Network, which focuses on the vital relationship between oral health and overall physical health. He is joined by Erin Howlett, a registered dental hygienist who also acts as operations manager for WDN, and Ford Brewer, a medical doctor who works to prevent heart attacks, strokes, cancer and dementia.

    In this episode, our trio of guests discuss why professionals across different medical fields should work together for their mutual patients, explain why hygienists play an essential role in learning patient information, and prepare you for the conflict that may arise when you try to build these bridges.

    EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:

    Interview starts: 2:57

    - How to define "interprofessional collaboration" for students and patients alike.

    - Erin explains how chairside conversations with patients have changed in the last several years.

    - On finding the courage to speak up in your office when you have concerns and ask for help.

    - Ford explains the crucial role hygienists play in patient interaction.

    - A few small steps new grads can take to implement interprofessional collaboration for their patients.

    - Impressing the importance of getting your patient the right kind of care even if it means creating a little bit of conflict.

    QUOTES:

    "Most of the things that bring people to the ER are things that should've never happened at all or should've been prevented for a couple decades."

    "I love to be able to have the tools chairside, with simple graphic tools to show patients."

    "We need more of this education and we need more young care providers."

    "The person that has the access to the patient more than anybody else is in this audience: it's the hygienist."

    "It's not just looks and teeth, it's people's lives that we're dealing with."

    "You have a major opportunity to make a big impact on someone's life and change the trajectory of their health."

    LINKS:

    Wellness Dentistry Network - https://wellnessdentistrynetwork.com/

    Wellness Dentistry Network email: contact@wellnessdentistrynetwork.com

    American Academy for Oral Systemic Health - https://aaosh.org/

    Ford Brewer on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmoEsq6a6ePXxgZeA4CVrUw

    Thank you to Paradise Dental Technologies aka PDT for providing sponsorship for this episode!

    Be sure to thank the sponsor for this episode by heading over to www.PDTDental.com and picking up a new instrument or telling them thank you in person at one of the conferences!

    A Tale of Two Hygienists homepage - https://ataleoftwohygienists.com/

    AToTH on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/aTaleOfTwoHygienists/

    AToTH on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ataleoftwohygienists

    AToTH on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/atoth/?originalSubdomain=ca


    TIPisode with Teresa Duncan Nov 29, 2019
    Show notes

    Generation EZ... Teresa explains to us why we all fall under that generation umbrella. Are you making visits to your office easy? Teresa gives us great suggestions for ways we can accommodate our patients in this technology-driven world.

    Teresa Duncan, MS is such a wealth of knowledge. Please visit her website and enjoy her awesome resources! For more info from Teresa, see below!

    Teresa Duncan: Speaker on insurance and management, Podcaster, Author of a book and contributes to several magazines and the ADA's publications!

    Book : http://odysseymgmt.corecommerce.com/Book/

    use code TALE for $3 courtesy (offsets shipping)

    Site:OdysseyMgmt.com

    Podcast: http://nobodytoldmethat.libsyn.com


    203 Budgets, Business, and Benchmarks Nov 27, 2019
    Show notes

    Continuing its deep dive into the business side of dentistry, this week A Tale of Two Hygienists is examining the nitty gritty of office budgets and what makes for a healthy working relationship between a dentist and their hygienists.

    Dianne Glasscoe Watterson, RDH, has been working in the dental industry since 1972. She actually started her career not as a hygienist but as a dental office manager. Now, she takes a three-pronged business: writing, speaking and consulting. Her latest book is Real World Dental Hygiene: Where the Rubber Cup Meets the Road

    In this episode, Dianne discusses why she made the shift from office management to hygiene, examines which expenses take the biggest chunk out of a dental office's budget, and explores some of the legal issues surrounding downtime.

    EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:

    Interview starts:

    - How a very unexpected absence started Dianne on the path from working the front desk of her office to becoming a hygienist.

    - The visit from a practice management consultant that inspired Dianne to go back to school and continue her education.

    - What Dianne hopes readers will get out of her latest book.

    - Why a dental office's primary dentist has an impact on how much hygienists do or do not gravitate toward the business side of their field.

    - The reason dental supplies eat so much into an office's overhead.

    - Taking a close look at which benchmarks a successful dental practice should meet.

    - Why everyone suffers if dentists keep their hygiene fees low.

    - Dianne's strategy for minimizing downtime, and why she'd like to see a punch-clock case go to court.

    - Discussing hygienists owning percentages of their dental office—plus the one office that's actually wholly owned by hygienists.

    - Dianne's parting advice to listeners emphasizing the sheer amount of support a well-trained hygienist can bring to an office.

    QUOTES:

    "That day I was baptized by fire into chairside assisting."

    "The numbers tell a story."

    "If a practice is financially healthy, then the doctor can better afford to take care of the people who work there."

    "75% of all restorative needs are discovered in hygiene visits."

    "Doctor should not minimize the importance of hygiene procedures and keep those fees low when they're raising up everything else. It's just not fair and it's not right."

    "The more money that comes in, the better the doctor can take care of the people who work there."

    "Many, many hygienists do not know what their salary-to-production ratio is."

    "Make yourself so valuable to this doctor that he can't imagine his world without you in it."

    LINKS:

    Watterson Speaking and Consulting, LLC - https://www.wattersonspeaks.com/

    Real World Dental Hygiene - https://www.wattersonspeaks.com/real-world-dental-hygiene.html

    Thank you to Paradise Dental Technologies aka PDT for providing sponsorship for this episode!

    Be sure to thank the sponsor for this episode by heading over to www.PDTDental.com and picking up a new instrument or telling them thank you in person at one of the conferences!

    THIS EPISODE COUNTS FOR CE! - but read the disclaimer below as it might not count for your state.

    Go here to take the test and get your CE credit!

    A Tale of Two Hygienists homepage - https://ataleoftwohygienists.com/

    AToTH on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/aTaleOfTwoHygienists/

    AToTH on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ataleoftwohygienists

    AToTH on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/atoth/?originalSubdomain=ca


    TIPisode with Uche Odiatu Nov 22, 2019
    Show notes

    Dr. Uche Odiatu is back and has 21 strategies to help us all survive the holidays. Office parties, family feasts, and holiday baking create a minefield for the most well-intentioned dental professional. It's that time of year to eat, drink and be merry but with New Year's is right around the corner.... Our frequent contributor wanted to help with some pre-emptive damage control

    Dr. Odiatu is a practicing dentist, certified trainer, author, speaker, and repeat AToTH guest. He always brings us content that we can use to make us and our patients happy and healthy. Be sure to check out the many episodes with Dr. Uche and head over to our YouTube channel and watch the videos Dr. Uche and Michelle did to help you stretch and take care of your body!

    Contact him!

    http://www.druche.com/

    www.facebook.com/https://www.facebook.com/UcheOdiatuodiatu

    odiatudmd@gmail.com

    Instagram: @fitspeakers

    Book: The Miracle of Health


    202 Getting to Know your Why - With Corey Jameson-Kuehl Nov 20, 2019
    Show notes

    To continue its series on the business side of dentistry, A Tale of Two Hygienists is taking a look at how you can ensure your office team works together like a well-oiled machine. For this discussion, Michelle is joined by co-host Eden Evie of MouthWatch and a guest who specializes in personality assessment.

    Corinne "Corey" Jameson-Kuehl is the owner and business development leader for Custom Dental Solutions, a team of consultants that assists dental offices in developing a corporate culture that suits their vision and needs. Corey uses a combination of DISC (Dominance, Influence, Steadiness, and Compliance) and Driving Forces assessments to help her clients determine which roles jive well with their personality styles.

    In this episode, Corey discusses which key traits her assessment measures, looks at which traits Michelle and Eden scored the highest on, and helps you figure out what kind of office work you're best suited for.

    EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:

    Interview starts: 20:45

    - Corey discusses the "Finding Your Why" course she recently held at the Indigo Conference.

    - What Corey's assessment can tell you about the skills and traits you bring to the dental office.

    - Breaking down how the DISC assessment works and what each score means.

    - The neat reason so many dental hygienists have the same score on Corey's assessment.

    - How exactly did Michelle and Eden score on Corey's assessment? We take a DEEP dive.

    - What Corey did to improve one hygienist's working conditions with just a single move.

    - What your assessment score can tell you about the kind of work you're best suited to in a dental office.

    - How you can tell it's time for you to start looking outside of the box and exploring new territory in your career.

    QUOTES:

    "Students are amazing, because if they can understand this concept now, this will save them so much grief in their life."

    "I don't have to explain to anybody my 'why'—you can see my why."

    "Stress, to me, is something you never want to continue to adapt to."

    "Even if no one else in your practice does it, learning about yourself... is the game-changer."

    "If you know your Why, you'll never ask your What."

    "Take what you learn and then put it into practice every day."

    LINKS:

    Custom Dental Solutions: https://www.customdentalsolutions.com/

    Custom Dental Solutions phone number: 1-262-853-1414

    Corey's email: corey@customdentalsolutions.com

    If you want to take Corey's assessment, let her know in the email subject line!

    Thank you to Paradise Dental Technologies aka PDT for providing sponsorship for this episode!

    Be sure to thank the sponsor for this episode by heading over to www.PDTDental.com and picking up a new instrument or telling them thank you in person at one of the conferences!

    THIS EPISODE COUNTS FOR CE! - but read the disclaimer below as it might not count for your state.

    Go here to take the test and get your CE credit!

    A Tale of Two Hygienists homepage - https://ataleoftwohygienists.com/

    AToTH on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/aTaleOfTwoHygienists/

    AToTH on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ataleoftwohygienists

    AToTH on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/atoth/?originalSubdomain=ca


    TIPisode with Claire Jeong Nov 15, 2019
    Show notes

    Claire Jeong is the founder of StudentRDH.com, dentaltoaster.com, smarterDA.com and now https://wakeupmemory.com/

    This week, Claire helps us to remember the difference in brand vs. generic. We can waste time when reviewing the medical history by looking up medication names. If we had a fun and fast way to remember the brand and generic names, we could fly through those med histories! Thanks, Claire, for helping us keep medications straight!

    Check out her website, dentaltoaster.com, for more info and other great CE courses, including one by Michelle!


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