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    A Podcast with Charlie Swenson – To Hell and Back – Charlie Swenson, MD

    This podcast series, “To Hell and Back,” is focused on the nature of hellish experiences in life, how people get into them, and to present and discuss tools for coping with hell and getting out. The various podcasts will move back and forth between different varieties of hell in life, and different tools for coping. The tools will be drawn from dialectical behavior therapy (DBT), from other treatments, and from other life experiences.

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    Adapting DBT Skills When Working with Autistic Individuals – Episode 115 Apr 26, 2023
    In this episode, the fourth in a series on autism and DBT, Charlie is again joined by Amara Brooke and Rachel Kraus, two DBT therapists who are autistic and who have subspecialties in working with autistic clients. Our focus here is entirely on the application and adaptation of DBT skills in the work with autistic individuals. Which skills work well as they are? Which skills require adaptation in order to work well with this population? Which skills can actually make things worse if you aren’t mindful of autistic features? Please rate, review, and write to me with comments and questions. View video version of this podcast
    Challenging, Changing Course, Reframing. Irreverence in Therapy and Life – Episode 114 Apr 06, 2023
    In this episode, Charlie explains, and gives lots of examples of, being irreverent in therapy. What is the essence? What is the point? Why is it important to do? Why is it hard to do? What are the forms irreverence can take? What are some tips for becoming irreverent? View video version of this podcast
    Top Ten Tips for Adapting DBT to Autistic Clients – Episode 113 Mar 30, 2023
    Charlie moderates a discussion between Amara Brook and Rachel Kraus, both of whom are DBT-informed therapists with subspecialties treating autistic and ADHD individuals, as they come of with ten things to consider when adapting DBT to autism.

    In the next episode after this one, the same guests will specifically address how to modify DBT skills in working with autistic clients.

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    Do we use DBT to target autism? No – Episode 112 Mar 24, 2023
    Charlie talks further with Amara Brook about autism, neurodiversity, and DBT: how can DBT be adapted, not to target autism itself, but to help autistic folks succeed at their own life-worth-living goals; how can we apply DBT’s bio-social theory in understanding and treating autistic individuals; and what are the barriers for autistic individuals in becoming DBT therapists? View video version of this podcast
    Autism, Neurodiversity and DBT – Episode 111 Mar 16, 2023
    It seems that the world is paying more and more attention to autism in particular and neurodiversity in general.

    Beginning with this episode, Charlie talks with Amara Brooke, Ph.D., about autism, neurodiversity, and ways of adapting DBT to help an autistic individual reach their life-worth living goals. Tune in for this three-episode special conversation, which will eventually lead to ten tips for adapting DBT therapy with autistic people, and then on to what is meant by the Universal Design for Learning.

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    Wise Mind – Episode 110 Mar 09, 2023
    Charlie provides an in-depth discussion of WISE MIND as used in DBT. What is it, why is it so valuable, what are perspectives on it, what are its features, how do you access it and use it? He then discusses a painful example from his own life when he needed wise mind but failed to access it. View video version of this podcast
    “As Bad A Year As It Was, It Was As Good As It Could Have Been” – Episode 109 Feb 23, 2023
    In a manner that is absolutely true to these words from her DBT and life mentor, Seth Axelrod, Andrea Gold has completed her one year of prescribed treatment for breast cancer, with the best results one can hope for. Tune in to this episode to hear Andrea celebrate the completion of the year and reflect upon how she managed the suffering (a lot) and created fun and connection through it all (a lot). She brings an infectious and intelligent enthusiasm, an emotional and affiliative personality, and a bad-ass exposure and DBT lifestyle, to rather grim cancer-related events: diagnosis, staging, mastectomy, radiation, chemotherapy, and survivorship. Listen, connect, reflect…learn from her. View video version of this podcast View Gallery
    Guaranteed Success, By Design – Episode 108 Nov 24, 2022
    > In part 2 of the conversation with world class trainer Cem Eren, join Charlie and Nicole and enter the Lion’s Den, a practice environment thoughtfully constructed to support our training journey from the moment we step through the door until the moment we step out of it. As we tour the space, we hear how unconditional acceptance underlies Cem’s strategy for facilitating positive change, and how his intuitive application of dialectics translates to clients that consistently hit huge goals and make extraordinary transformations. View video version of this podcast
    Skillful Mind Training, Embodied – Episode 107 Nov 17, 2022
    “In this episode, Nicole and Charlie tap into the wisdom that Cem Eren has gained from two decades of training elite NBA athletes, boxers, bodybuilders, beauty contestants, and ordinary humans of all ages. In examples that extend to therapy and coaching, Cem shares how he meets his clients every single day with freshness, compassion, dignity, and nonjudgmental presence, helping them connect with their strengths while building toward their goals. View video version of this podcast
    Identity Grammar – Episode 106 Nov 10, 2022
    What shapes the syntax of Self? How does context inform our inner lexicons? Are we more than the sum of all our actions?
    In this episode Charlie and Nic explore the ways we find meaning through expressing identity, how we hold space for inner contradictions, and why self definition is a paradox, ripe for dialectical intervention. View video version of this podcast
    Skillful Grieving, Making Meaning from Suffering, and a Dinosaur – Episode 105 Nov 03, 2022
    Who IS that Woman?! – Episode 104 Oct 27, 2022
    In Her Own Words – Natalia Garcia on Coping with Loss and Trauma with Opposite Action and an Approach Lifestyle – Episode 103 Oct 21, 2022
    Long Grieving, Complicated Joy, and Flowers That Grow Around a Hole in the Heart – Episode 102 Oct 13, 2022
    5 Years, 100 Episodes, 7 Lessons for Surviving Hell – Episode 101 Oct 06, 2022
    The Long Reach of Loss – Suicide Outside the Immediate Family – Episode 100 Sep 29, 2022
    A Brother and a Best Friend Lost to Suicide (Part 3) – Episode 99 Sep 22, 2022
    Skillful Coping with Cancer (Part 3): Friendship is Good Medicine – Episode 98 Sep 15, 2022
    Death by Suicide of a Charismatic Young Man in a Loving Family (part 2) – Episode 97 Sep 01, 2022
    Death by Suicide of a Charismatic Young Man in a Loving Family – Episode 96 Aug 31, 2022
    Principles in Practice – The Narcissist in DBT Therapy- Episode 95 Aug 20, 2022
    Narcissistic Behavior Patterns Through a DBT Lens – Episode 94 Aug 11, 2022
    Skillful Coping with Cancer-Interview 2 with Andrea Gold – Episode 93 Aug 04, 2022
    No Narcissist is an Island – Episode 92 Jul 29, 2022
    Narcissism: It’s More Nuanced Then You Think – Episode 91 Jul 21, 2022
    Narcissism and Narcissistic Personality – Episode 90 Jul 14, 2022
    I Dont Want to Keep the Baby, Can My Partner Understand – Episode 89 Jul 07, 2022
    Guns, Abortion and Dialectics (from DBT) – Episode 88 Jun 30, 2022
    Skillful Coping with Cancer – An Interview with Andrea – Episode 87 Jun 27, 2022
    Dialectical Perspectives on the Gun Violence Debate – Episode 86 Jun 19, 2022
    Just Be There – Episode 85 Jun 19, 2022
    What is DBT and Where Did It Come From? – Episode 84 Jun 16, 2022
    To Hell and Back with Charlie Swenson is Back Jun 15, 2022
    Acting Opposite to Action Urges to Change Emotions – Episode 83 Mar 26, 2021
    Applying DBT’S model of emotions to your life – Episode 82 Mar 14, 2021
    Why is it so damned hard to regulate emotions? – Episode 81 Mar 05, 2021
    Applying DBT’s Third Shape (Dialectics) to Alleviate Pandemic Suffering – Episode 80 Feb 19, 2021
    More DBT Solutions to Pandemic Suffering – Episode-79 Feb 12, 2021
    DBT Solutions to Pandemic Suffering – Episode 78 Jan 29, 2021
    The Pandemic – Science Suffering And DBT Solutions – Episode 77 Dec 19, 2020
    Mindfulness Amidst Mindlessness (Part 2) – Episode 76 Jul 03, 2020
    Mindfulness Amidst Mindlessness – Episode 75 Jun 19, 2020
    Lessons from Pandemic Living – Episode 74 May 23, 2020
    Changing Repetitive Painful Emotions – Episode 73 May 09, 2020
    Italy, the US, the pandemic and DBT (part 2 of 2) – Episode 72 Apr 03, 2020
    Italy, the US, the pandemic and DBT – Episode 71 Mar 28, 2020
    DBT in the Era of Trump (3 of 4) – episode 70 Mar 08, 2020
    DBT in the Era of Trump (2 of 4) – episode 69 Mar 02, 2020
    DBT in the Era of Trump (1 of 4) – episode 68 Feb 24, 2020
    Living with Cancer (4 of 4) – Episode 67 Feb 09, 2020
    Living with Cancer (3 of 3) – Episode 66 Feb 02, 2020
    Living with Cancer (2 of 3) – Episode 65 Jan 26, 2020
    Living with Cancer (1 of 4) – Episode 64 Jan 18, 2020
    What’s the point? (Part 3) – Episode 63 Jan 11, 2020
    What’s the point? (Part 2) – Episode 62 Dec 24, 2019
    Top 10 DBT skills-based antidotes for the holiday season – Episode 61 Dec 15, 2019
    What’s the point? – Episode 60 Dec 11, 2019
    Life After Death: Lessons from the Life of Perry Hoffman – Episode 59 Nov 09, 2019
    Dealing with the read end experience of having a spouse or partner with a serious mental illness – Episode 58 Nov 03, 2019
    No Dead Ends – The Step by Step Path Out of a Dead End -Episode 57 Oct 20, 2019
    How To Accept Reality and Tolerate Distress – Episode 56 Jul 27, 2019
    Judging, Judgment, Judgmental, and Non-Judgmental – Episode 55 Jul 13, 2019
    More mindfulness skills in DBT for coping with hell – Episode 54 Jun 09, 2019
    Mindfulness Skills: the power of simply observing reality – Episode 53 May 23, 2019
    Mindfulness as taught within DBT – Episode 52 May 14, 2019
    Mindfulness in the service of reducing suffering – Episode 51 May 03, 2019
    To Hell and Back – The Zoom Version (April 18, 2019) – Episode 50 Apr 23, 2019
    Getting Old Sucks – Acceptance Helps – Episode 49 Apr 15, 2019
    10 Reasons the DBT Skills Training Fails, and Solutions – Episode 48 Mar 28, 2019
    Ingredients in the recipe for recovery from Hell – Episode 47 Mar 21, 2019
    A conversation with Andrea Rosenhaft (Part 3 of 3) – Episode 46 Mar 18, 2019
    A conversation with Andrea Rosenhaft (Part 2 of 3) – Episode 45 Mar 06, 2019
    A conversation with Andrea Rosenhaft (Part 1 of 3) – Episode 44 Feb 27, 2019
    How to Use Dialectics to Deal with Relationships – Episode 43 Feb 22, 2019
    Relationship Skills in DBT (part 3 of 3) – Episode 42 Feb 08, 2019
    Relationship Skills in DBT (part 2 of 3) – Episode 41 Feb 01, 2019
    Relationship Skills in DBT (part 1 of 3) – Episode 40 Jan 24, 2019
    The Nature of Emotions and Emotion Regulation (Part 5 of 5) – Episode 39 Jan 07, 2019
    Coping with Holiday Hell: Ten DBT- based Antidotes – Episode 38 Dec 22, 2018
    The Nature of Emotions and Emotion Regulation (Part 4 of 5) – Episode 37 Dec 15, 2018
    The Nature of Emotions and Emotion Regulation (Part 3 of 5) – Episode 36 Dec 04, 2018
    The Nature of Emotions and Emotion Regulation (Part 2 of 5) – Episode 35 Nov 24, 2018
    The Nature of Emotions and Emotion Regulation (Part 1 of 5) – Episode 34 Nov 02, 2018
    Dealing with the Hell of Addictions (Part 2 of 2) – Episode 33 Oct 17, 2018
    Dealing with the Hell of Addictions (Part 1 of 2) – Episode 32 Oct 11, 2018
    Entitlement, Victimization, and Emotion Regulation – Episode 31 Oct 01, 2018
    DBT Skills for All (6 of 6) – Episode 30 Sep 22, 2018
    DBT Skills for All (5 of 6) – Episode 29 Sep 19, 2018
    DBT Skills for All (4 of 6) – Episode 28 Sep 06, 2018
    DBT Skills for All (3 of 6) – Episode 27 Aug 31, 2018
    DBT Skills for All (2 of 6) – Episode 26 Aug 03, 2018
    DBT Skills for All (1 of 6) – Episode 25 Jul 27, 2018
    Radical Acceptance – Episode 24 Jul 24, 2018
    Radical Acceptance (1 of 2) – Episode 23 Jun 30, 2018
    No Dead Ends – Charlie Says Goodbye to Cindy – Episode 22 Jun 23, 2018
    Surviving the Death of a Child (3 of 3) – Episode 21 Jun 16, 2018
    Surviving the Death of a Child (2 of 3) – Episode 20 Jun 10, 2018
    Surviving the Death of a Child ( 1 of 3) – Episode 19 Jun 01, 2018
    The DBT Prolonged Exposure (DBT PE) protocol – A conversation with Melanie Harned PhD (part 3 of 3) – Episode 18 May 18, 2018
    The DBT Prolonged Exposure (DBT PE) protocol – A conversation with Melanie Harned PhD (part 2 of 3) – Episode 17 May 14, 2018
    The DBT Prolonged Exposure (DBT PE) protocol – A conversation with Melanie Harned PhD (part 1 of 3) – Episode 16 May 03, 2018
    The Dialectical Perspective – Episode 15 Apr 24, 2018
    Interbeing and Being Dialectical in the Presence of Adversity – Episode 14 Mar 30, 2018
    Using Acceptance To Get Through Hell (2 of 2) – Episode 13 Mar 23, 2018
    Using Acceptance To Get Through Hell (1 of 2) – Episode 12 Mar 18, 2018
    Relationship Hell – Episode 11 Mar 08, 2018
    Coming to Terms with a Suicide in the Family – A Conversation with Cedar Koons (3 of 3) – Episode 10 Mar 01, 2018
    Tools for Getting back from Hell – Episode 9 Feb 15, 2018

    In this podcast, Charlie returns to complete his discussion over several podcasts about using DBT’s core mindfulness skills for surviving hell and returning from it.

    Coming to Terms with a Suicide in the Family – A Conversation with Cedar Koons (2 of 3) – Episode 8 Feb 01, 2018
    Coming to Terms with a Suicide in the Family – A Conversation with Cedar Koons (1 of 3) – Episode 7 Jan 21, 2018

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