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    10,000 NOs: How to Overcome Rejection on the Way to Your YES

    Actor Matthew Del Negro (The Sopranos, The West Wing, Scandal) describes his career as being told “No” for a living. Here, he gets up close and personal with top-shelf folks from all walks of life about the 10,000 “No” s they’ve had to endure and struggles they’ve had to overcome on their journey to where they are today. Inspiring, raw, honest and funny, this podcast will help you see that the people you think have “got it made” put their pants on one leg at a time, just like you.

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    Amanda Clayton, The Long, Long Road to City on a Hill Jan 10, 2020
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    Amanda Clayton has hit her stride, with her latest portrayal of Cathy Ryan, the tough-as-nails wife of an armed car robber, on Showtime's City on a Hill. But long before she was dazzling millions in their living rooms, she was grinding, first as an athlete and then as a waiter and theater actor. She eventually nabbed a series regular role on Tyler Perry's television series, If Loving You is Wrong, where she did nearly 100 episodes, but it wasn't easy getting there. We take a deep dive into the long grind of becoming a working actor. Amanda admits to the sometimes infuriating, embarrassing and painful aspects of her journey, making this episode funny, heartbreaking and, ultimately redemptive. If you're not in the entertainment business, this episode will entertain you. If you're an aspiring actor, wondering whether you'll ever get your break, this episode is a must listen.

    SHOW NOTES:

    "I told my mom when I was 3 years old that I wanted to live inside the television," (4:13). Constantly being involved in sports and cheerleading with her 2 sisters, (8:22). Discovering theater will consume most of her time while in college, (10:41). "There was that thing about affecting people that was the truest, purest form of it. That 3 year old mentality *gasp* 'This is awesome. I want to do this to somebody.' I want everybody to feel this way. That feeling of want to cry so badly.", (15:17). "I was so shy. As far as putting myself out there in front of anybody, I was an athlete and a cheerleader. I had a ton of friends and it was a wonderful experience in high school, but I was so reserved and embarrassed to put myself out there in front of anybody," (16:54). Taking her mother's advice on going into college as undecided with her studies, (22:32). "It was my first time taking this stand on my own. This is my time and this is what I want to do. I'm going to go with the theatre group and sign up for theatre classes," (23:42). Seeking out acting opportunities in New York with family, (27:02). Leaving college and moved to NYC at 19 after convincing her parents that acting is her passion, (30:30). Watching the 9/11 attacks unfold from Brooklyn, (31:03). "I think that was oddly enough a big catalyst too, to be like, 'Nothing is going to stop us from doing what we want to do,'" (32:37). "I bring it up too because without those things, I don't think I would've believed enough in myself," (35:14). "As actors in general, I think we always need that, 'Hey, you're doing great,' because we are so wrapped up," (37:58). Encountering pressure from parents to have a fallback plan, (42:57). "I had no idea whatsoever how to run my own business of being an actor. I had no idea of how to promote myself," (46:30). Living in LA for 7 years and met an agent at the restaurant she was waitressing in, (49:34). "It was just waiting for the thing to come and then, I got into this really awful habit of waiting for something to happen," (54:42). Losing her best friend to suicide in NY, (57:52). "Every opportunity I decided finally to just go, 'Ok great, ok perfect. I'm doing this. I finally got that job,' I started making money right away," (1:02:25). Being approached by an agent, but they didn't know what they were doing, (1:07:22). "And I started getting myself really ready to get into that door. Now I can do what I've always been able to do, but now I have to do it for the right people," (1:19:29). Receiving a first audition for a sitcom to be a season regular, (1:20:37). "This is where I'm supposed to be, and I know it is the right time, so I sat down and no one acknowledged me. No one even looked up from a desk. Nothing at all," (1:22:23). "I want to go in there and I don't want to let them win. That is not fair. I almost gave up because of them," (1:30:52). Making full use of her acting techniques, (1:38:27). Feeling an immediate connection to her City on a Hill character prior to her audition, (1:45:37). "I loved getting really to dive into a character in that way," (1:50:09). "This sucks because I'm never going to do this again. I have to assume right here and now that this is never going to happen ever again in my career. That this is the most incredible role I'm going to get and it is never going to get better than this.", (1:54:33). "The word 'No,' actually means 'You're welcome.' (1:57:59).

    GUEST LINKS:

    IMDB: More on Amanda

    Instagram: @TheAmandaClayton

    Twitter: @MandaClayton

    Interview: City on a Hill

    Behind the Scenes: City on a Hill Setup

    SHOW LINKS:

    Purchase 10,000 "No"s Apparel Here to Support the Show

    Matt's Amazon Influencer Page (shop thru this site for items mentioned in interviews to support 10KNos at no extra cost to you.)

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    RELATED PAST EPISODES OF 10,000 "No"s:

    Ep 90: Melissa Ponzio, Teen Wolf's Mama McCall: Honesty and Authenticity on the Journey to Being a Professional Actor

    Browse Our Episode Archives at 10000nos.com

    If you like what you hear, please Subscribe, leave an iTunes review and spread the word. You can also listen to all episodes at www.10000nos.com


    Transform Your Body & Life with Jay Ferruggia REPOST Jan 03, 2020
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    As we continue our holiday hiatus, we give you another one of last year's transformational New Year's interviews, this time with top strength coach and transformation specialist, Jay Ferruggia. If you are in the midst of beginning your New Year's resolutions, you don't want to miss this one. Enjoy...

    Jay Ferruggia is bald, jacked and tattoed. So it's easy to be intimidated by him or judge him from afar, as I once did. But scratch the surface and under the muscular build is a sensitive, inquisitive soul who has made it his life's work to strengthen others physically, psychologically and spiritually, as he did for me for a recent role. Our conversation covers topics as specific as the benefits of sea salt and top training techniques, to Jay's systematic strategies to overcome his "introvert" label and become a super-connector. Jay's transformation from a "skinny-fat" kid from Jersey to influencing tens of thousands of followers through his books, his podcast, his articles and his weekend retreat events is the stuff of movies. You will come away knowing more about how to transform your body and, more importantly, your mind in order live up to your full potential.

    SHOW NOTES:

    How I judged Jay based on his appearance before ever speaking to him, (4:57). Growing up watching Stallone and Schwarzenegger, (6:41). Contracting tuberculosis during Sophomore year of college, (7:39). Creating one of the original underground gyms, (8:59). Writing for numerous health and fitness magazines, (10:53). The science behind fitness training, (12:44). Considering your stress levels, gut health and sleep before stepping into the gym, (14:12). Mastering technique in the gym, (15:11). Seeking out the information that is right for you, (16:47). Confusion around different types of diets, (17:51). "Science shows you need to train a body part or muscle group at least twice a week.", (20:29). Training to become better, not sore, (22:14). Misconceptions around salt, (24:33). Moving out to Santa Monica 8 years ago to begin a transformation, (26:50). Urging others to reinvent themselves, (28:07). "You can't preach and teach people, you just need to lead by example.", (32:19). Being a Super-Connector, (37:01). Pushing yourself to do uncomfortable things, (39:07). Taking the reins with meeting new people, (42:32). Limiting the number of tasks in a day, (46:33). "Sometimes asking 'Why?' five, six, seven times is important.", (49:31). Intertwining of masculinity and sensitivity, (54:47). "Now, I tell people when I have weakness and need help." , (56:56). The Ben Franklin Effect, (57:16). Rewriting the narrative of needing alone time, (59:05).

    LINKS:

    Website: More on Jason

    Instagram: @JayFerruggia

    Podcast: Jason's Renegade Radio Podcast

    Book: Jason's Renegade Diet Book

    Pre-order Matt's Upcoming Indie Film, Limerence, on iTunes here!!! (available for streaming on all platforms Jan 7, 2020)

    Purchase 10,000 "No"s Apparel Here to Support the Show

    Matt's Amazon Influencer Page (shop thru this site for items mentioned in interviews to support 10KNos at no extra cost to you.)

    RELATED PAST EPISODES OF 10,000 "No"s:

    Ep 11: Panic Attacks to Perfect Life, Craig Ballantyne

    Ep 13: Dumpster Diver to "Overnight" Millionaire, Bedros Keuilian

    If you like what you hear, please Subscribe, leave an iTunes review and spread the word. You can also listen to all episodes at www.10000nos.com


    Transform Your New Year With Charlie "Rocket" REPOST Dec 27, 2019
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    As we continue our holiday hiatus, we give you last year's New Year's day interview again because it is so inspirational in terms of Transformation. It applies as much as we kick off 2020 as it did at the start of 2019. Enjoy...

    Charlie Rocket ran a multi-million dollar business where he managed hip-hop artists like 2 Chainz into Grammy Awards. But he weighed over 300 lbs and was diagnosed with a brain tumor so he decided to do what he has done his entire life: dream the biggest dream and then set about working toward attaining it, regardless of whether his family and friends thought he was crazy. One of those dreams was to be a Nike Athlete, which came true when his fan-created commercial of his transformation from obesity to Ironman went viral and he was flown to Nike's headquarters in Oregon. That trip led to Charlie being featured alongside Lebron James and Serena Williams in a commercial with Colin Kaepernick... something that Charlie had been writing in his journal for months prior.

    His worldview has such simplicity that it is unique: to remove the brain and allow himself to dream like a child. But his follow-through and workmanship, fueled by these dreams, is what has so many people talking about him. 10,000 "No"s intended to be on a two month break for the holidays, but this inspiring conversation felt too pertinent to release on any other day of the year besides New Year's Day. Launch into your 2019 with the wise words of Charlie Rocket!

    SHOW NOTES:

    Coming from a long line of vacuum salespeople, (8:11). Getting fired by Soldier Boy at age 18 and deciding to rep musicians as a talent manager, (11:17). "If you want to be successful, you have to be of servitude, (12:50). Posting hundreds of MySpace comments for hours every single day to build an audience one person at a time, (14:00). Driving the entire coast to 'Salute the DJ' and build an army of DJs who would ultimately help him and his artists win a Grammy, (14:45). Serving DJs by making it easier for them to access their music better by building the biggest DJ website in the world for Urban DJs, DJservicepack.com, (16:41). How Charlie executed these big dream ideas, (18:07). "The key thing is, I shut down my brain...", (19:47). Walking away from a very successful music career at 305lbs, with a brain tumor, to become an athlete, (21:41). Why Nike was so special to Charlie from a young age, (25:17). How Charlie turned his recurring journal entry of a year into a reality, (29:01). Charlie's dichotomy of being a dreamer and a pragmatic practitioner, (30:46). Being honest and asking for help from followers, (35:44). Mobilizing a fan base to help launch a book, (37:13). Shrinking the brain tumor through a diet of living foods, (39:45). The word "no" really means "not yet", (40:46). The "Buy, Cry or Die" theory, (41:01). What Charlie learned about marketing from PDiddy, (42:39). Bad relationship to spending money, "We spend it and get it back, we that invented that.", (45:29). The negatives knock you down, but they're also the tools to your positives... so you can change anything, (47:49). Charlie's lone regret about not spending enough time with his grandfather because he was chasing the flash of the music industry(48:31).

    LINKS:

    Website: More on Charlie

    Twitter: @CharlieJabaley

    Podcast: Charlie Rocket Show

    YouTube: Fan Made Nike Commercial

    YouTube: Nike's 30th Anniversary Ad

    Pre-order Matt's Upcoming Indie Film, Limerence, on iTunes here!!! (available for streaming on all platforms Jan 7, 2020)

    Purchase 10,000 "No"s Apparel Here to Support the Show

    Matt's Amazon Influencer Page (shop thru this site for items mentioned in interviews to support 10KNos at no extra cost to you.)

    RELATED PAST EPISODES OF 10,000 "No"s:

    Ep 39: Unplug Meditation CEO/Founder, Suze Yalof Schwartz

    Ep 43: Mark Duplass, Just Shoot It

    Ep 72: Jimmy Jam, Legendary Music Producer

    If you like what you hear, please Subscribe, leave an iTunes review and spread the word. You can also listen to all episodes at www.10000nos.com


    REPOST Recent Interview with Matt on Intentional Performers Dec 20, 2019
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    Matt was a guest on Brian Levenson's podcast, Intentional Performers on October 9, 2019. Due to the holiday hiatus, and with the generosity of Brian, we are reposting it here on 10,000 "No"s. Here is the description from Brian's feed...

    Matthew Del Negro joins us on this week's episode of the podcast. Matthew is an actor that has played a wide range of roles in features both on TV and in theater. He has worked on TV shows such as Scandal, Sopranos, West Wing, Showtime's United States of Tara, MTV's Teen Wolf, and now he's on a show called Goliath on Amazon Prime. He is a philosopher at heart, a deep thinker, and he will talk about how he's been reflective throughout his life and how that's led him to this journey of acting. He's also a podcast host, and his podcast 10,000 No's has all kinds of incredible guests. Matthew is on a journey and he's trying to find out how he can be a great actor and great at other parts of his life. He is obsessed with adversity and hearing no, and how others have developed a relationship with adversity and how to turn failures or no's into opportunities.

    SHOW NOTES:

    In this episode, they discuss what he was doing in San Diego (8:19), what life was like growing up (11:41), the lessons he learned from sports (12:30), where turning no's into yes's came from for him (17:40), when lacrosse came into his life (19:58), what it was like playing lacrosse at BC (21:35), how he got into acting (26:00), the moment he decided he wanted to be an actor (29:10), how his parents reacted to him saying he'd be an actor (30:50), what his vision was like in his 20's (29:00), how he's changed as an actor (30:40), his religious framework (36:40), the similarities and differences between lacrosse and being an actor (41:40), the systems or processes he's put in place to handle rejection (44:00), the priming he does before he performs (46:35), questioning of his identity (50:50), how he defines success (54:40), what makes a great story (58:30), how to cultivate connection (59:20), his mindfulness techniques (1:02:00), and what has most helped shape him (1:04:20)

    Thank you to Matthew for coming on the podcast. We encourage you to check out his podcast, "10,000 No's" at https://www.10000nos.com/. You can find him on Instagram @mattydel, Twitter @MatthewDelNegro, Facebook @delnegrofansite, and you can email him at info@10000nos.com.

    Lastly, if you liked this episode and/or any others, please support us at Patreon or follow me on Twitter: @brianlevenson or Instagram: @Intentional_Performers.

    LINKS:

    Intentional Performers with Brian Levenson Podcast on Podbean

    Pre-order Matt's Upcoming Indie Film, Limerence, on iTunes here!!! (available for streaming on all platforms Jan 7, 2020)

    Purchase 10,000 "No"s Apparel Here to Support the Show

    Matt's Amazon Influencer Page (shop thru this site for items mentioned in interviews to support 10KNos at no extra cost to you.)

    RELATED PAST EPISODES OF 10,000 "No"s:

    Ep 92: What You Do When No One is Watching is What You Get Rewarded for Later

    Ep 98: How to Stop Analyzing & Act

    If you like what you hear, please Subscribe, leave an iTunes review and spread the word. You can also listen to all episodes at www.10000nos.com


    Holiday Hiatus & Plans for 2020 Dec 13, 2019
    Show notes

    As 2019 draws to a close and Matt writes furiously on his book to make a deadline, we preview some of our upcoming guests, including Henry Winkler, former Navy SEAL Chris Burns turned trauma surgeon Chris Burns and Sam Apuzzo who was the best player in NCAA Women's Lacrosse two years ago and now assistant coaching at Boston College. We also discuss the importance of improvising during the holidays in this short solo episode.

    SHOW NOTES:

    Currently writing a book about 10,000 'NO's with the end of the year deadline, (1:10). Planning to rerelease past episodes, (2:04). Laying out what is in store for future episodes, (3:40).

    If you like what you hear, please pass on the word. You can also Subscribe through the iTunes Podcast App or on Spotify to have new episodes automatically downloaded to your devices as they are released.


    From Foster Child to Olympic Hopeful, Steven Benedict Dec 06, 2019
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    As a professional track and field athlete and Olympic Trials Qualifier, Steven Benedict has run in some of the world's most prestigious events. In addition to the Adidas Classic Diamond League and US Nationals, he spent two years running for Nike and was a Penn Relays Champion. Featured in 50 national and international magazines, such as Train, ESPN Magazine, Men's Fitness, Men's Health, and Fitness RX, Steven has expertise and contributions that extend far beyond the track. But his story is that of a boy overcoming incredible odds to, not only compete on such a high level, but to just be alive.

    Over the course of his first 8 years, Steven was moved between homes and motels with little certainty of what the next day would bring. At age 8, he and his brother were adopted by an incredible couple, who possessed traits of joy, humility, sacrifice and unconditional love. The time with these parents would be short lived, however, as both his mom and dad suffered untimely deaths within a few years of each other. The pain of these losses nearly ended Steven's professional career but, once again, Steven defied the odds and continues to overcome his 10,000 "No"s.

    SHOW NOTES:

    Going back and forth between foster care and his biological mother's arms at 4 months old, (4:35). "He saw fit to lay his hands on us and beat us when we were young. I was hospitalized.", (6:15). Being forced out of childhood and into a father-figure role to take care of his brother, (6:35). "I felt that there was more stability for us going into foster care even though stability for us at that point was just to have a roof over our head, a warm bed to sleep in and a hot meal to eat.", (7:51). Learning how observant of a person he was in foster home, (10:42). "My brother thought that was our permanent home and he was angry at my adopted parents for taking them away, thinking he was taken away from his family now.", (11:55). Getting involved into sports, music and art with his adopted mother, (14:10). Joining track and field at summer camp when he was 9 and continued into high school, (15:20). "There's always going to be somebody better and there's always going to be somebody that has a little more natural talent, but I think where I make up for that is my work ethic.", (18:45). Wondering a bunch of questions about his past, (21:21). "I had bottled up, unresolved problems from my past and that kind of overflowed in high school. I had to go see somebody to talk to about getting into fights and being hot-tempered.", (22:15). Finding out his biological father was incarcerated and hung himself in jail, (24:15). "I took a whole year to take toll of who I was, who I was becoming and really clear up a bunch of stuff on the inside I was working through.", (28:48). "We get angry over the smallest things, and then we let them build and accumulate into these mountains and we forget why were originally angry.", (30:20). "I think we all evolve. If not, we're just being stagnant, and that is one of the main things about humans is that if you're not evolving, you're just existing.", (33:03). Tearing his hamstring while heading to Olympic trials in 2008 at the same time losing his parents, (35:27). "I feel like I've tackled all of these things so early that it has become the story. It's not the story of just all the things I've come through. I'm not looking for it to be a crutch. It is more of a catalyst to me.", (42:45). Engaging in track and field at the age of 35, (47:10). "I feel like for the first time, an actual coach is listening to the athlete and listening to me.", (48:20). Believing in the importance of sleep, (52:21). "You have to do the legwork. You have to make a name for yourself. You have to be a brand on your own and you have to treat yourself as a business.", (57:45). Aspiring to build a home for foster kids impacted by sports, (1:00:45). "You have to be able to accept the 'No', but you also have to be able to give a 'No.'", (1:04:15).

    LINKS:

    Website: More on Steve

    Instagram: @steviey_b

    Twitter: @benedict_steven

    Interview: Training at Dragball by World of Wonder

    RELATED PAST EPISODES OF 10,000 "No"s:

    Ep 74: Nike Athlete, Grammy Award Winner Charlie "Rocket" Jabaley

    Ep 75: Strength Coach, Transformation Specialist & Super-Connector, Jay Ferruggia

    Ep 83: Real Life Shawshank Redemption, Crossfit CEO Rob Grupe

    If you like what you hear, please Subscribe, leave an iTunes review and spread the word. You can also listen to all episodes at www.10000nos.com


    Why Gratitude and Thanksgiving Require Forgiveness Nov 29, 2019
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    For this episode, released on Black Friday, the day after Thanksgiving, Matt riffs on thoughts from a recent work trip to Hawaii where he saw some movies he loved, some that disappointed and experienced a Catholic Mass that surprised him. It includes several clips of Quentin Tarantino from a podcast he did with the folks who help him run the New Beverly Theater and the overall theme is that nothing is perfect so we must forgive the imperfections, find something to be grateful for in everything, and push on. As is uttered at some point, "Everyone is trying their best, and everyone is falling short in some way," but that doesn't mean we need to throw in the towel.

    SHOW NOTES:

    How a Catholic mass in Hawaii surprised me, (3:50). "Everyone is trying their best, and everyone is falling short in some way", (7:54). A deep dive into Quentin Tarantino, (8:36). "There's a whole history of cinema, and a history of the world, that is full of examples of things that are not perfect", (9:20). "Don't give me a wish-list, give me a bridge with steel", (11:41). Great performances by Actors you don't know, (12:05). Don't overcomplicate it, (14:30). If Quentin Tarantino can find the time to schedule the calendar at the New Beverly Theater..., (15:53). A word of advice for artists who have a difficult time monetizing their passion projects, (17:58). Great monologue about overcoming fear from Evel Knievel film in 1971, (20:17).

    LINKS:

    Purchase 10,000 "No"s Apparel Here to Support the Show

    Wikipedia: Origin of the Term "Black Friday"

    St. Augustine Church by the Sea Parish, Honolulu, HI

    Pure Cinema Podcast: July 2019 with Quentin Tarantino

    IMDB: Quentin Tarantino

    IMDB: John Milius

    IMDB: George Hamilton

    IMDB: Evel Knievel, 1971

    Matt's Amazon Influencer Page (shop thru this site for items mentioned in interviews to support 10KNos at no extra cost to you.)

    RELATED PAST EPISODES OF 10,000 "No"s:

    Ep 61: Elite Hollywood Producer, Jennifer Todd

    Ep 92: What You Do When No One is Watching is What You Get Rewarded for Later

    Ep 98: How to Stop Analyzing & Act

    If you like what you hear, please Subscribe, leave an iTunes review and spread the word. You can also listen to all episodes at www.10000nos.com


    Actress Sarah Shahi, That Which Does Not Kill You Will Make You Stronger Nov 22, 2019
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    Sarah Shahi is beautiful. But despite having graced the covers of countless magazines, it would be wrong to call that her defining quality. To sit down with her is to discover that she has humor, strength and grit that exceeds the average person. Perhaps her steel was forged in the fires of growing up one of the few Iranian immigrants in Texas, or maybe it was from surviving an abusive father who, addicted to drugs, held a gun to her head at the tender age of 6. Either way, this former Pageant Champion turned Dallas Cowboy Cheerleader had enough life force, and the help of an incredibly fierce mother and multiple women's shelters, to find a way out of Texas and onto our television and film screens since 2001. From regular roles on Showtime's The L Word, NBC's Life, USA'S Fairly Legal and CBS' Person of Interest, to her brief but memorable performance opposite James Gandolfini in an Award-Winning episode of The Sopranos, she continues to turn heads. Her portrayal of Rachel Benham on last summer's gritty Boston crime drama, City on a Hill, further solidifies her reputation as an actor with chops. Here, she talks to me about everything from growing up as an outsider and using her pain for her art to how she manages to parent and stay connected to her kids despite an incredibly busy schedule that sometimes has her across the country from her loved ones for long stretches of time.

    SHOW NOTES:

    Sarah's two burning desires as a kid: being on stage or being a doctor, (3:20). Growing up Persian in Texas, (5:13). How doing pageants starting at age 10 proved to be a great training ground for an adult life as an actor, (6:37). Playing a lot of sports as a kid and being a Tom Boy despite the fact that she was doing pageants, (8:43). How sports and doing pageants prepared Sarah for her eventual career, (10:07). Sarah's parents' volatile relationship and how they fled from Iran in the middle of the night, (11:24). Sarah's father's darkness and perpetual addiction, (12:17). When Sarah's father held a gun to her head, wanting to kill her, himself and Sarah's Mom, (12:56). Sarah's Mom as a Superwoman and Sarah's biggest inspiration, (14:36). After Sarah's Dad left for a year, how her relationship with him morphed over the years, including a big break and him re-appearing in her 20's to demand money, (15:21). Hating her father but then feeling like her dark side that she uses in her work is owed to him, (17:25). "My mother and I, we spent about a year, on and off in the women's shelters until the time that I was about 5 or 6", (19:07). Mom's thick accent caused people to try to take advantage of her, but if they did the claws came out, (21:45). The trials and tribulations of growing up in Texas with the name Aahoo Jahansouz Shahi and how she landed on Sarah Shahi as her new name, (22:53). Studying opera for 6 years, (24:14). "My Mom always told me that if I wanted more I had to give to myself, she couldn't do it for me", (25:07). Being the captain of her HS volleyball team despite being "fun size", (25:42). Hated cheerleaders because they were popular and she wasn't but somehow, only 2 years after graduating HS, she graced the cover of the 99/2000 Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders Swimsuit Calendar, (26:49). A crazy scheme to get to Hollywood that involved trying out for the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders first, (29:20). How Robert Altman changed the trajectory of Sarah's career and life, (30:29). "I quit everything: I quit the cheerleaders. I quit school. I had a cherry red pickup truck and, yeah, I packed up my car and my Mom and I drove to California. And then I never looked back", (32:29). No Plan B, (33:23). Hysterial first audition story, (34:11). Kevin Hart, (36:58). When asked if Old School moved the needle for her career, explains that she always feels like she's at the beginning and the hustle never ends, (38:06). One episode of The Sopranos that had a greater effect on Sarah's career than years of other TV, (40:24). The nature of being an actor and knowing that most of our work will go unnoticed by the majority, (42:05). Looking at an audition as an opportunity to exercise her unique take on the material and do it differently than anyone else, (44:25). Acting is like Jazz: it takes place between the lines, (45:13). Doing City on a Hill was a big departure for Sarah, away from Network TV, (47:00). Taking risks in our work still does not guarantee us rewards in our hoped-for timeframe, (49:31). A longtime marriage in the entertainment world, (50:30). Go with your heart, (51:22). Parenting - trying to be an actor and a soccer Mom, (52:09). Shonda Rhimes' book, The Year of Yes, (56:04). Being there for your kids even when you're not in the same city, due to work, (56:56). Coming from a mother who worked, (58:01). Advice to younger self: what age? What advice?, (59:20). "We've only got this lifetime", (59:43).

    LINKS:

    Purchase 10,000 "No"s Apparel Here to Support the Show

    IMDB: Sarah Shahi

    Instagram: @sarahshahi

    Twitter: @sarahshahi

    Facebook: Sarah Shahi

    IMDB: Robert Altman

    Matt's Amazon Influencer Page (shop thru this site for items mentioned in interviews to support 10KNos at no extra cost to you.)

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    Emmy Award-Winning TV Journalist, Jane Hanson (New York Live): How to Listen & Remain Calm While the Bombs Drop Around You Nov 15, 2019
    Show notes

    Jane Hanson has interviewed VIPs from Bishop Desmond Tutu to Presidents to Rock Stars, Pop Stars who turned out not speak English (you'll hear that funny story)... you name 'em, she's probably interviewed them. And she's collected nine Emmy Awards over the years for her efforts. She is credited as being the first person to announce on-air that the Twin Towers were struck by a plane on 9/11 - she recounts her version of that harrowing day and the professional battle it took to remain steady amidst so much emotion and horror. While she is a big city gal now, her story began in a tiny rural town in Minnesota. And, like every other guest on this show, it is wrought with twists, turns and No's that she has fought turn into Yes's.

    SHOW NOTES:

    How growing up in a tiny town in Minnesota sparked Jane's curiosity to learn about the rest of the world, (2:50). The effect of Jane's father reading her the newspaper at age 4 and talking about what was happening in the world, (3:22). A fortuitous outcry for women in television when Jane got to college leading to a very quick, but dramatic, trajectory to New York City, (3:41). The importance of the support and belief of a father in his daughter, (7:26). The power and motivation of having a huge family as an amazing support system, (8:19). The price you pay with your family when you branch out and do something very different, (11:13). After being plucked to the big leagues, navigating the fine line of staying true to one's self and doing what is required for a higher level in a highly competitive industry, (12:24). The importance of modeling successful behavior from those who are ahead of you in your industry, (12:40). When interviewing a President or rock star that had been interviewed by many famous journalists, the power of preparation to make sure her interview was special, (15:38). The fun experience of New York Live, (16:40). Controlling an interview's subject matter with the questions you ask, "You can take people places differently by asking them questions differently", (18:20). The interview Jane will never forget: while sitting on a park bench interviewing Desmond Tutu he is interrupted to find out he won the Nobel Peace Prize, (19:18). The significance, and simultaneous lack of significance of being recognized with 9 Emmy Awards and how the awards really belong to her entire support team, (21:48). Why some of the kindest people are actually the best interviewers, (24:39). Why a journalist's obligation is always to their audience, not the guest, (25:46). A very funny story about a interview with a wildly famous pop star that no one realized did not speak English, (26:50). A story about interviewing a TV personality who got mad when Jane asked difficult questions, (28:09). Jane's experience as the first journalist to announce the first plane going into the Twin Towers on 9/11, (31:14). The horrific site Jane saw on 9/11 that forced her to tell her camera guys to pull out, (35:07). The sadness associated with 9/11, (37:53). The price that was paid for such success as a broadcaster, (39:32). How concern for Jane's daughter led her to leave the early morning news and actually pushed her to start her own venture with Jane's New York, which was a "spectacular adventure" that would celebrate New York to revitalize it after 9/11, (40:24). A particularly cool trip to Mongolia as a part of Jane's New York, (42:28). The illusions of television and the movies, (44:28). How 9/11 made Jane far more purposeful, (45:58). How newsrooms, and other high stakes work environments, can get callous, (48:17). Why people in intense jobs tend to bond with one another, (49:42). Story about Jane getting shot at early in her career on an Indian Reservation, (50:27). Story of Jane getting a bottle held to her neck during a live broadcast, (51:11). Jane's present-day media coaching, (53:03). Jane's go-to mantras when everything falls apart, "It's only TV" and "You're good at what you do. Believe in yourself. Keep it honest. Keep it real. Be authentic," (55:49). Jane's advice to her younger self (age 40), give more thought to what's next, really reflect on where you are, (57:00).

    LINKS:

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    Jane Hanson Official Website

    Instagram: @janehanson

    Twitter: @janehanson

    Facebook: JaneHansonTV

    LinkedIn: JaneHansonTV

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    Showtime's City on a Hill Creator, Chuck MacLean: How to Make it in Hollywood Even if You're a "Sh*tbum from Quincy" Nov 08, 2019
    Show notes

    At 33 years old, Chuck MacLean has worked with some of the biggest talents in Hollywood like Brad Pitt and Antoine Fuqua. Currently, he collaborates with major players Ben Affleck, Matt Damon, Tom Fontana, Jennifer Todd and Kevin Bacon with his critically-acclaimed Boston Cop Drama, City on a Hill. What I enjoyed most in sitting down with him is his ability to say it like it is without worrying what others will think of him. Sure, it might warrant an "explicit" rating (F-bombs abound), but you'll feel like you're back on the streets of Boston with this self-described "shitbum from Quincy" who pulled off "the biggest con of all" by hitting it big in Hollywood as a screenwriter. If he can go from being bloody and chased by cops to creating a major hit in under 15 years, maybe you can too. His "no" stories may just be funnier, and more dangerous, than yours!

    SHOW NOTES:

    Wanting to write male-driven dramas but learning early on that no one wanted them unless they were placed within a genre film, (4:55). The culture shock moving from Boston to LA, (6:18). "It was thing where I realized, 'oh, to really make a successful story, you just need to care about the characters and the story can be kind of secondary. Even if you're using a basic genre element, a basic genre structure... if the character's good, no one's really paying attention to that," (7:57). The whole City on a Hill story, starts with that movie 'Black Mass', (9:29). The joys of working with Ben Affleck as a producer, (11:05). Being hired by for his particular voice by Ben Affleck, (13:50). The best moment of Chuck's career, at Ben Affleck's house, (15:43). The surreal quality of success in Hollywood coupled with the blunt truth of how hard the work is, (17:21). The best advice I got early on was that it doesn't cost anybody anything to call you a genius", (18:17). The effortless beauty of Kevin Dunn's acting, (19:22). The influence of Chuck's grandfather on his desire to be a writer, (21:59). Story about doing grandfather's eulogy, (23:28). The responsibility of writing because he knew his parents were broke, (27:00). Being terrible at everything else and falling back on writing, (27:24). Chuck's college experience, (30:04). "The only thing that made me happy was getting myself out of trouble", (35:15). Using people's doubt as fuel, (37:24). Realizing that normal people don't get drunk on Friday nights and get into fights and how that freed up much more time to pursue a dream, (39:44). Chuck's daily writing routine, (44:13). How Chuck approaches fictional stories, (46:55). "So, like, if I'm gonna go write a cop show about Boston, right? What does the audience expect that to look like? ... 'okay, well how do I come in from the left then? And hit them sideways?'" (50:23). The pragmatic, almost mathematical problem-solving aspects of screenwriting, (52:21). "I usually do it based on whatever I'm going through, 'cause that's what I'm gonna be interested in writing about", (54:52). Chucks massive body of work, including short stories, (55:34). "10% of my job is actually writing... 90% of it is just dealing with bullshit", (1:00:28). "Big time agent read it, guy's been around forever... he flipped out. He sent it to an editor and that guy flipped out... they were so excited about the whole thing, and then... nothing ever happened. It got shot down everywhere," (1:02:23). Chuck's "Sicilian" take on how the brain works, (1:08:09). "That's what I would say to that kid, "believe it or not, it's gonna work out kinda the way you think it is,"(1:20:14). Bonus Hollywood horror stories, (1:21:14).

    LINKS:

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    Matt's Amazon Influencer Page (shop thru this site for items mentioned in interviews to support 10KNos at no extra cost to you.)

    IMDB: Chuck MacLean Film / TV Credits

    Instagram: @chiefj137

    The Godwulf Manuscript (Wikipedia)IMDB: David Lowery (IV) Film / TV Credits

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