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**疲惫娇娃 CyberPink**

疲惫娇娃是一档从荧幕聊到宇宙深处的泛文化播客，用女性的声波延展对世界的参与和想象。

在一个内陷的时代，疲惫娇娃站在中国和美国的交汇点上，用女性的元视角去观察、抵抗、塑造政治和社会对流行文化的影响。我们讨论流动的时代精神、艺术、自由、未来、友谊以及一切使我们获得力量的事物。

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Copy of Mayday_25th_US+lnfo-01.jpg — **060｜「影后」是台娱照见自己的一面镜子 Born for the spotlight** Mar 16, 2025
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**【聊了什么 The What】**

「影后」是一部深入探讨女性友谊、职场关系和娱乐圈现实的台湾剧集。通过几位不同年龄阶段女演员的视角，该剧以META的方式反映了台湾娱乐业的变迁与挑战。

这不只是一部简单的"宫斗剧"，而是一部贴近现实的职场剧。剧中几位中年甚至老年女性角色的感情和人际关系发展，展现了人生不同阶段的成长可能性。薛亚之与周凡的关系打破了观众对角色与演员的刻板印象，也把女性之间嫉妒和爱并存的关系刻画的十分细腻。我们聊到了从琼瑶剧到偶像剧再到现代台剧，这些不同时期的台湾影视作品如何塑造了我们对爱情和生活的理解。「影后」作为新一代台剧，不只讲述了演艺圈的故事，也折射出社会对女性期望的变化，成为台湾文化界照见自己的一面镜子。

“Born for the Spotlight” is a Taiwanese drama series that deeply explores female friendships, workplace relationships, and the realities of the entertainment industry. Through the perspectives of actresses at different age stages, the series reflects the changes and challenges of Taiwan's entertainment industry in a meta way.

This isn't just a simple "palace drama," but a workplace drama that closely mirrors reality. The emotional and interpersonal relationship development of several middle-aged and even elderly female characters in the show demonstrates the possibilities for growth at different stages of life. The relationship between Xue Yazhi and Zhou Fan breaks viewers' stereotypes about characters and actresses, and also portrays the coexistence of jealousy and love between women with great subtlety.

We discussed how Taiwanese media from different periods—from Chiung Yao dramas to idol dramas to modern Taiwanese series—have shaped our understanding of love and life. "The Actress," as a new generation of Taiwanese drama, not only tells the story of the entertainment industry but also reflects changing societal expectations of women, becoming a mirror for Taiwan's cultural industry to see itself.

**【本期嘉宾 Guest】**

东尼，行星酒馆主播（一个在动荡时代里，分享离散故事的华语播客。）

**【五月天购票链接】**

今年3月29日，五月天成团25周年“回到那一天”演唱会将登陆拉斯维加斯忠实体育场（Allegiant Stadium）。这是五月天北美巡演的唯一一场，请记住，是唯一一场，也是华语歌手在北美开唱的最大规模和最高规格。演出将斥资千万美金打造，从巨型五球华丽舞美，到环场巴士，带你体验原汁原味的五月天魅力。 3月29日这个日子也很特别，是五月天正式成军的纪念日。从七号公园初次登场的那个三月，到拉斯维加斯五万人共享的星空，我们一起坐上时光机，穿越回忆任意门，体验一趟精彩万分的旅程，回到属于你和五月天的那一天。

无论你来自哪个国家，无论你是听着五月天歌长大的老粉，还是刚刚喜欢上他们音乐的新粉，这场演唱会，都不容错过。

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VIP套餐还包含专属观赏区、快速通道和限量纪念礼包，值得收藏。加入五月天，永远不会太迟。

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**【时间轴 The When】**

00:03:54《影后》如何处理群像，一个松散的女演员”圈子“

00:11:20 胖姐为什么戳中了我们的泪点

00:13:48 柯丽芬和TB迟来的道歉和原谅

00:22:28 周凡和薛亚之之间不被行业和社会支持的非性缘共生关系

00:34:10 欧美和东亚女演员的“角斗场”

00:35:06 史爱玛的性格刻画的好吗？她的问题是太年轻太想要吗？

00:45:26 《影后》又新又旧的感情和婚姻观念

00:51:33 台湾娱乐的文化产品怎么养大了我们，构筑了我们的感情观

00:58:50 大S去世与我们摄入信息时代的变迁

01:05:35 新的时代让我们获得了什么、失去了什么

01:07:58 大小S以及台娱“又新又旧”的黄金时代

00:03:54 How "Born into the spotlight" handles its ensemble cast, a loose "circle" of female actresses

00:11:20 Why the "pangjie" character touched our heartstrings

00:13:48 Ke Lifen and TB's belated apology and forgiveness

00:22:28 The non-sexual symbiotic relationship between Zhou Fan and Xue Yazhi that isn't supported by the industry or society

00:34:10 The "arena" for Western and East Asian actresses

00:35:06 Is Shi Aima's character well-portrayed? Is her problem that she's too young and too ambitious?

00:45:26 "Born into the spotlight" and its modern and traditional views on relationships and marriage

00:51:33 How Taiwan's entertainment cultural products raised us and built our views on relationships

00:58:50 Barbie Tsu's passing and the changes in how we consume information

01:05:35 What the new era has given us and what we've lost

01:07:58 Barbie and Dee Hsu, and the "both new and old" golden era of Taiwanese entertainment

**【疲惫红书 CyberRed】**

除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。

Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun, and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu!

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058 | 黑箱日记：伊藤诗织的抗争日志 Shiori Ito’s Black Box Diaries Jan 10, 2025

Show notes

【聊了什么 The What】

2024年初，日本记者伊藤诗织发布的纪录片《黑箱日记》以其私密的镜头语言和坦诚的叙事方式，记录了她从2015年遭遇性侵，到2017年实名举报，再到近年来推动日本性暴力相关法律变革的漫长历程。这部纪录片不仅是一份个人的创伤记录，更是对日本社会性别议题的深度剖析：警方的敷衍了事，媒体的冷漠反应，路人对受害者的污名化，和伊藤诗织站出来为自己和更多沉默者发声的巨大勇气。

这期节目中，小蓝与嘉宾探讨了这部纪录片所呈现的复杂现实：一个女性记者如何在追求新闻专业主义的同时，不得不把自己的创伤经历变成公共讨论的一部分；为什么在日本这样的民主社会，年轻女性却如此缺席性别议题的公共讨论；以及在整个东亚地区，女权运动如何在各自的政治文化背景下寻找突破。从警察机构到司法体系，从传统媒体到新媒体平台，从个人抗争到集体行动——，我们如何在时代的重重局限下突出重围，追求系统性变革的可能？

In early 2024, Japanese journalist Shiori Ito released her documentary "Black Box Diaries," which uses intimate cinematography and candid storytelling to chronicle her long journey: from experiencing sexual assault in 2015, to publicly reporting it in 2017, and her subsequent efforts to reform Japan's sexual violence laws in the following years. The documentary is not just a personal record, but also a deep analysis of gender issues in Japanese society - showing the police's perfunctory handling of her case, the media's indifferent response, public stigmatization of victims, and Ito's immense courage in speaking up for herself and other silent survivors.

The episode features discussions between Xiaolan and guests about the complex realities presented in the documentary: how a female journalist must balance professional journalism while being forced to turn her traumatic experience into part of public discourse; why young women are so notably absent from public discussions of gender issues in a democratic society like Japan; and how feminist movements across East Asia navigate breakthroughs within their respective political and cultural contexts. From law enforcement to the judicial system, from traditional media to new media platforms, from individual resistance to collective action - how can we break through the limitations of our time to pursue systemic change?

【参与人员 The Who】

小蓝：疲惫娇娃主播、媒体工作者
弦子：女性主义者、发声者、写作者
兆音：调查记者、BBC纪录片“追查「痴汉」——谁在售卖日本性侵偷拍影片”制作人
林珊：珊越拾穗的主播、科尔比学院访问助理教授
Xiaolan: Host of CyberPink, media professional
Xianzi: Feminist activist, writer
Zhaoyin: Investigative journalist, producer of the BBC documentary "Catching a Pervert: Sexual Assault for Sale"
Lin Shan: Host of "Shan Yue Shi Sui," visiting Assistant Professor at Colby College

【时间轴 The When】

00:00:58 《黑箱日记》的故事背景
13:47 伊藤的记者与性侵幸存者双重身份
20:57 纪录片中最私密的时刻：用镜头记录自己的创伤
41:05 日本社会的性别困境：为什么支持伊藤的多是年长女性？**更正：日本学运发生在60年代末 *
52:12 记者作为性暴力受害者
01:11:38 日本的政治冷感与女权运动
01:21:39 从个案到制度：日本性暴力相关法律的变迁与局限
01:30:44 东亚女性的共同命运：如何在父权制度下寻找发声与改变的可能
00:00:58 The story behind "Black Box Diaries"
13:47 Meeting Ito: the journalist and the survivor
20:57 The intimacy of documenting your own trauma
41:05 Japan’s gender problem: Why are Ito's supporters mostly older women?* *Correction: the Japanese university student protests happened in the late 1960s *
52:12 Journalists as survivors
01:11:38 Political apathy and the unique path of feminist movements in Japan
01:21:39 Driving systemic change: The evolution of Japan's sexual violence laws
01:30:44 Finding our voice under east asian patriarchy

【拓展链接 The Links】

寫在日本《刑法》性犯罪修正案與《同志法案》通過之後 https://changyuchieh.com/2023/06/16/gay-law/
BBC紀錄片：追查「癡漢」——誰在售賣中國日本性侵偷拍影片－ BBC News 中文
抓住那个“痴汉”文章
BBC纪录片《猎食者：日本流行音乐的秘密丑闻》
法庭外的12小時，弦子訴朱軍案開庭首日文章
神圣无花果之种电影
Girls Will Be Girls 电影

【疲惫红书 CyberRed】

除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。

Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun, and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu!

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056 | 黑白厨师：一场关于阶级与美食的韩式寓言 Culinary Class Wars as a Parable of Food and Status Dec 12, 2024

Show notes

【聊了什么The What】

Netflix的这韩国综艺《黑白大厨：料理阶级大战》以其独特的"阶级对决"设定，将韩国美食界的精英与草根厨师置于同一个舞台，从产业内不同厨师的故事讲起，给了我们一张韩国餐饮业在2024年当下的切片。在这期播客中，疲惫娇娃的主播和嘉宾周成荫老师展开了一场关于美食、文化和身份认同的深度对谈。如何能把一档美食综艺拍成惊心动魄的《鱿鱼游戏》（虽然没有看到鱿鱼料理）？为什么韩国人眼里的正宗中餐是我们觉得有点过时的老牌江浙菜？米其林体系下的美食标准真的有普适性吗？

“Culinary Class Wars,” Netflix’s latest hit cooking show, masterfully stages a compelling clash between 80 “black spoons” chefs against 20 industry-acknowledged “white spoons”, and offers a fascinating snapshot of Korea’s latest culinary landscape. In this episode, our hosts and our guest Prof. Eileen Chow dived into a conversation about competitive reality TV, food, culture, and identity. How does a cooking show manage to channel a level of intensity that rivals “Squid Games” but sadly without a single squid dish in sight? Why does the Korean perception of authentic Chinese cuisine what we consider old-school glazy Jiangzhe classics? Can the Michelin standards, rooted deeply in the European culinary tradition, truly serve as a universal measure of culinary excellence? Tune in to find out.

【时间轴 The When】

03:39 "黑汤匙"与"白汤匙"之争：看似阶级对立，实则并非泾渭分明
29:56 厨房里的性别困境：为什么女性大厨总是被特殊对待
38:14 韩综如何平衡真实性与戏剧效果
52:53 Edward Lee的身份认同困惑与突破
01:02:53 为什么节目里的中餐都是江浙菜系主导
01:08:44 全球化背景下的本土美食认同
03:39 Gamifying the class tension in the culinary world
29:56 The female chef’s dilemma
38:14 Making cooking feel like high drama
52:53 Edward Lee: A Korean-American chef searching for identity
01:02:53 Why Jiangzhe food shaped the perception of Chinese food in korea
01:08:44 Local flavors as anchor of identity

【疲惫红书 CyberRed】

Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu!

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055｜秋季氛围检查之“11月约等于星期六晚上” Fall vibe check: November is a Saturday night Nov 06, 2024

Show notes

【聊了什么The What】

今年是不是加了速？

在时间的加速阴谋下，四个女的照例录制了一期秋季氛围检查。然而，等到节目剪出来要写文案的时候，已经是十一月初（？怒录一期冬季氛围检查然后回家过年）。

每年的十月份、十一月份、和挤满节日的十二月，都像是一个星期中消耗速度最快的周末。我们期待它们，但是它们也在宣告着时间在以不可思议的速度流逝的事实。下一年的音乐会排期已经出来了，时尚圈也开始宣告2025春季和夏季的trends——这些穿插在社交媒体和我们邮箱中的图片、讯息、数字、速朽的标题和色彩，都让人产生一种时间错位感。

每期的氛围检查我们都基本上100%脱稿，想哪说哪，想聊什么就聊什么。这期也是一样的闲聊风格。我们聊了身处在美国社会对于大选的“逃避”，最近读了什么书，我们对于年龄和身体感知的感悟。还有一些乱七八糟想哪说哪的话题。

各位娃们11月快乐！

Has time been accelerating this year???

Under the conspiracy of time's rapid passage, four of us gathered as usual to record our fall vibes check. By the time we finished editing and about to drop this episode, well, it was already early November…

October, November, and holiday-packed December always feel like the fastest-passing weekend of a week. We look forward to them, yet they also declare the undeniable fact that time flows at an unforgiving speed. Next year's concert schedules are already out, the fashion world has begun announcing trends for spring and summer—these images, messages, numbers, ephemeral headlines, and colors interweaved throughout our social media and emails create a sense of temporal displacement: when is this?

As with all our vibe checks, we kept this episode 100% unscripted, speaking freely of our stream of consciousness. We have been "avoidant" of this election (as we all live in the US), we discussed some books we've read, and as usual, this episode is packed with various random stuff uttered from our mouths.

Happy November, everyone!

【时间轴 The When】

03:05 十月约等于星期五，十一月约等于星期六

08:00 四个女的在关注大选吗？对于这场选举的心态发生了哪些变化？

15:10 四个女的最近在看什么剧

39:55 （一个关于年龄的感慨）“身体表达”逐渐变成了不一样的概念，和身体的关系在逐渐变化

52:35 （又一个关于年龄的感慨）我到底应不应该更成熟？我应该如何对待所谓的晚辈？

59:50 （还是一个关于年龄的感慨）“成功”是个模糊且主观的概念

01:03:50 从美剧聊到投行，以及我们如何看书、听书

03:05 October feels like a Friday, November feels like a Saturday

08:00 Are four of us following this election? (NO) How have our attitudes towards this election evolved?

15:10 What shows are we watching lately?

39:55 (Reflections on age) "Physical expression" takes on new meaning as our relationship with our bodies evolves

52:35 (More thoughts on aging) Should I be more mature? How should I interact with younger generations?

59:50 (Yet another age-related musing) "Success" is an ambiguous and subjective concept

01:03:50 From TV shows to investment banking; how we read books and listen to books

【拓展链接 The Links】

Outliers: The Story of Success)

Nexus: A Brief History of Information Networks from the Stone Age to AI

Industry)

Father Ted

Trust)

【疲惫红书 CyberRed】

Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu!

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054｜黑神话悟空: 那些女性打过的游戏和挨过的骂 Our Take on “Black Myth: Wukong” Oct 14, 2024

Show notes

【聊了什么The What】

最近的几个月里，一个穿越了中国和美国的超级文化现象是《黑神话：悟空》这款游戏。

我们几个女的其实除了一芳之外都不怎么玩游戏，但是为了去理解《黑神话：悟空》之后的文化现象，小蓝决定一头闯进这个游戏的宇宙。女性游戏玩家在参与游戏的时心路历程是怎样的？魂系游戏如何在我们沉浸在游戏剧情的时候，让我们感知到自己的主体？魂系游戏的魅力在哪里？什么才是所谓的硬核玩家？女的玩游戏这一路上到底挨了多少骂？当很多人把《黑神话：悟空》的出海热潮视为国产文化的输出巅峰，却出现了关于团队厌女言论的争议，我们如何去理解类似的游戏行业持续的厌女现象？我们请来了两个在游戏界工作的女的一起和我们聊聊《黑神话：悟空》，梳理了Gamergate 1.0 和2.0的始末，分享了对于游戏的态度。

本期嘉宾：

游戏设计师、策展人和写作者杨静
在北美游戏业界工作也是游戏爱好者Jing

“Black Myth: Wukong” is China's first so-called "AAA" blockbuster video game, and CyberPink gals are here to talk about it. We haven't discussed gaming before, as none of our hosts (other than Yifang) are avid gamers, but we couldn't pass up the opportunity to join the discourse around this cross-cultural phenomenon that's the game of the summer (or dare we say, year).

To fully understand the hype around "Black Myth: Wukong," all participants in this episode played the game. Especially Xiaolan who decided to jump right into the Wukong universe, as a new gamer. Along with our two guests who are both gaming industry professionals and passionate gamers, we discuss the psychological journey of female gamers as they engage with the game. Is "Black Myth: Wukong" considered a Soulslike game, and if so, how do Soulslike games allow us to perceive our agency while we're engrossed in the game's narrative?

While many view the commercially successful "Black Myth: Wukong" as a pinnacle of Chinese cultural export in recent years, news about misogynistic comments from the development team surfaced. What does this mean for the persistent misogyny in the gaming industry as a whole? We talk about Gamergate 1.0 and 2.0, what it means to be a woman and a gamer, and the gaming community at large. Tune in for a riveting discussion on "Black Myth: Wukong" and more!

Our Guests：

Game designer, exhibition curator and writer Yang Jing
Gaming industry professional and gaming enthusiast Jing

【时间轴 The When】

02:00 几个女的们玩过的那些复古游戏（你还记得什么是软盘吗？）
33:53 黑神话悟空这个游戏给我们带来的感受
50:45 游戏界的遗憾和诟病：有哪些有毒的鄙视链和偏见
1:02:13 这款游戏是“文化出海”的高度？是“crazy rich asians”现象？
1:19:00 团队的厌女言论和争议
02:00 Retro games we've played (Do you remember what a floppy disk is?)
33:53 Our first impressions of "Black Myth: Wukong"
50:45 Regrettable aspects of the gaming world: Toxic hierarchies and prejudices
1:02:13 Is this game considered the epitome of Chinese "cultural export"? Is it another "Crazy Rich Asians" phenomenon?
1:19:00 The team's misogynistic comments and the ensuing controversy

【拓展链接 The Links】

《黑神话：悟空》，能力越大责任越大风险越大 by 杨静，链接
关于Gamergate 1.0，讲者：Zoey Quinn，链接
IGN关于黑悟空厌女争议的文章

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053｜「弟弟」: 男孩在东亚家庭学会爱 Dìdi: Coming of age in the summer of 2008 Oct 01, 2024

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【聊了什么The What】

疲惫娇娃的这期节目聊了在美国上映的电影“Didi (弟弟)”。这部电影探讨了成长的阵痛和13岁的男主角在加州的移民身份的问题。它是台裔导演王湘圣Sean Wang的长篇初作，也是一部自传性质的作品。故事围绕一个13岁的台裔美国男孩Chris展开。在2008年短短两个月的暑假里，他经历了初恋、与家人的矛盾、对自我身份的迷惘，以及发现了对视频制作和滑板的热爱。

我们从”Dìdi 弟弟”这个电影名开始，聊了聊了我们对于这部怀旧青春电影的回应。故事中隐藏的重男轻女的情节和男孩在网络上的成长，都在我们自己作为90后的成长轨迹中有迹可循。

In this episode, we discuss the recently released film "Dìdi" (meaning "little brother" in Chinese). This coming-of-age story explores the growing pains of its 13-year-old protagonist the summer before starting high school in Fremont, California. The film marks the directorial debut of Taiwanese-American filmmaker Sean Wang and draws heavily from his own experience. The narrative centers on Chris, a 13-year-old Taiwanese-American boy, during a transformative two-month summer vacation in 2008. Throughout this brief period, Chris navigates his first love, family conflicts, identity confusion, and discovers his passion for videography and skateboarding. Starting with the film's title "Didi," we share our thoughts on this nostalgic youth drama. The subtle themes of gender and the boy's growth in the early digital age resonate with our own experiences as old millennials. The story's portrayal of gender bias within East Asian families and the protagonist's online coming-of-age journey mirror aspects of our own upbringings.

【时间轴 The When】

05:38 《弟弟》:一部关于2008年的怀旧电影
16:28 光标和键盘，PC和社交媒体，这个故事关于被互联网养大的我们
23:25 "Bro, that's so weird!":电影通过bro来传达健康的男性气质？
30:36 陈冲的母亲角色:无条件的爱与包容
40:39 东亚式养育剧本:缺席的父亲、受困的母亲、离开的姐姐，和疼爱孙子的祖母
01:08:38 两代台湾导演的自传式电影对比，”来自女性的照料“如何被男性创作者们看到
05:38 didi is a nostalgic film set in 2008
16:28 the story explores how our generation was raised by the internet, featuring cursors, keyboards, PCs, and early social media
23:25 the film may be attempting to convey healthy masculinity through the use of "bro" culture
30:36 Joan Chen portrays a mother figure characterized by unconditional love and acceptance
40:39 the movie presents a typical East Asian family dynamic with an absent father, a trapped mother, a departed sister, and a doting grandmother
01:08:38 a comparison with autobiographical works by different generations of Taiwanese directors, particularly in how male creators depict care from women

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052｜Drake和Kendrick怎么闹成这样 Kendrick and Drake’s Rap Beef explained Sep 03, 2024

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【聊了什么The What】

纠结了一个夏天，我们还是决定聊一聊Drake和Kendrick的Rap Beef（说唱对决）。对于在国内长大的小杨和一芳来说，来到美国之后面对着从“从未考虑过种族“到迷迷糊糊开始思考自己身份的漫长成长过程。而这个成长过程中很重要的文本就是说唱音乐——更具体地说，是Kendrick Lamar的音乐。这场Rap Beef不仅仅是两个天才创作者之间争夺影响力的创作对决，还掀起了遍布各个角落的涉及嘻哈文化、性别、种族、艺术创作与商业成功之间的大讨论。在这场rap battle中，多首音乐被制作出来，随着battle的火力程度升级，家暴、恋童等指控成为歌词里面乱飞的字母武器。这些男性rappers们在个人恩怨中提出的未经证实的指控，是在保护真实的女性，还是名人男性之间相互利用对方对于失去名利的恐惧？这些看似正义的歌词其实与受伤的女性无关？嘻哈音乐是否有内生的厌女倾向，还是它只是反映了手握资源的人们对女性困境的不为所动？

As a pop culture podcast, we can’t not talk about one of the biggest cultural moments in hip hop (and beyond): the infamous rap battle between Drake and Kendrick Lamar. But for us here at Cyberpink, dissecting this rap beef goes further than just chronologically listing out who dropped what song when, or the cultural significance of “Not Like Us.” When we first experienced racialization as young immigrants, Kendrick’s profound lyrics were part of the canonical texts we read to understand race and identity in the U.S. Kendrick vs. Drake goes beyond two rappers showing off their creative chops -- it started a whole conversation around how we should consume and evaluate hip hop culture. As insults were traded and the battle escalated, accusations of domestic violence and pedophilia became lyrical weapons casually thrown around; no women or child was spared as partners, sons, daughters, and parents got dragged into the mix. Are these unverified accusations meant to protect real women, or are the two rap stars using each other’s fragile ego and fear of losing fame or wealth for their own gain. What are they gaining -- clout or their name in history as the winner? And at what cost -- women who get caught in the crossfire and further extending hip-hop’s inherent misogynistic tendencies? Is this whole showdown an indication that those with resources are indifferent to women's plight? It’s our job as culture consumers to ask these tough questions. Tune in for our discussion.

【时间轴 The When】

00:00:39 Drake与Kendrick Lamar的说唱对决的前因后果
00:04:57 Drake: 来自加拿大的混血童星和“说唱界变色龙”
00:12:44 Kendrick Lamar: 来自康普顿底层的声音，rap即诗歌，也是黑人文化的守护者
00:18:05 这场battle开始来真的: 音乐创作中开始出现大量个人攻击，战情升级
00:25:56 "Family Matters"与"Meet the Grahams": 当家庭成为歌词中的战场
00:31:57 "Not Like Us"和说唱音乐的性别困境
00:41:06 女艺术家们如何battle: Charli XCX和Lorde的和解
01:00:10 怎么办，我最爱的音乐人是一个艺术怪物
00:00:39 Drake vs. Kendrick: how the rap battle started
00:04:57 Drake: A biracial child star from Canada and too much of a chameleon?
00:12:44 Kendrick Lamar: A voice from Compton, rap as poetry, and guardian of Black culture
00:18:05 The battle gets real: Music creations start to include numerous personal attacks, escalating tensions
00:25:56 "Family Matters" and "Meet the Grahams": When family becomes a battlefield in lyrics
00:31:57 "Not Like Us" and hiphop culture’s gender problem
00:41:06 Female artists beef differently: The reconciliation between Charli XCX and Lorde
01:00:10 What if your favorite artist is an art monster

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051 | 亚裔美国人的边缘身份和细微心境 Minor Feelings: the evolving Asian American Identity Aug 01, 2024

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【聊了什么The What】

“Minor Feelings”是由韩裔美国作家诗人Cathy Park Hong的一本书，通过回忆录、文化批评和历史回顾的方式探讨了亚裔美国人流动的身份、情感和经历。作者自己作为一个“东亚女儿”和“少数族裔作家”的多重身份让她能敏锐地感受一系列仿佛已经成为日常的羞耻、愤怒和自我怀疑。在美国这样一个高度种族化的社会，亚裔往往被塑造成“模范少数族裔”，他们的勤奋和成功成了主流社会维护现状的工具。然而，当他们感受到种族歧视时，这套话术往往又会阻止亚裔美国人的表达。这些因为边缘身份产生的”微妙情感“（minor feelings）与美国关于种族的主流叙事相冲突，和亚裔美国人这个群体一样在黑白分明的种族讨论中被忽视或误解。

这本书最近被翻译成了中文在中国发表，名为《少数派的感受》。我们也借此契机请到我们的好朋友，杜克大学教授周成荫来谈谈种族意识、模范少数族裔神话以及历史事件对个人和集体身份的影响。

我们也分享了自己的移民经历，以及这些微妙情绪是如何在我们的日常情境和系统结构中产生的。

"Minor Feelings" is a book by Korean-American poet and writer Cathy Park Hong that explores the fluid identity, emotions, and experiences of Asian Americans through memoir, cultural criticism, and historical review. As an "East Asian daughter" and a "minority writer," Hong keenly perceives a range of everyday feelings of shame, anger, and self-doubt. In the highly racialized society of America, Asians are often cast as the "model minority," with their diligence and success used as tools to uphold the status quo of mainstream society. However, when they experience racial discrimination, this narrative often stifles Asian Americans' expressions. These "minor feelings" that arise from marginalization conflict with the mainstream American narratives about race and, like the Asian American community, are often overlooked or misunderstood in the black-and-white racial discourse.

Recently translated into Chinese and published in China, we took this opportunity to invite our good friend, Duke University professor Eileen Chow, to discuss racial consciousness, the model minority myth, and the impact of historical events on personal and collective identity.

We also shared our own immigration experiences and how these subtle feelings arise in our everyday situations.

【时间轴 The When】

00:29 《少数派的感受》:一本探讨亚裔美国人身份和经历的重要著作

02:50 解析“微妙情绪“:少数族裔在美国的日常挣扎

08:06 一代移民与二代移民的经历对比

13:40 亚裔美国人身份认同的复杂性

20:20 大学里的亚裔学生组织:寻找归属感

31:03 Eileen和小蓝在职场中的微妙种族歧视经历

45:14 亚裔内部的代际矛盾:政治立场的分歧

52:23 共同体意识的形成与挑战

01:17:22 多元文化经历作为一种“超能力”

01:24:39 如何利用自己的特权推动社会进步