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Are you with me? Dr. Joni Johnston Weighs in Between the Lines: Crime, Confession, and Literature Aug 09, 2023

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In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum and forensic psychologist Dr. Joni Johnston dive deep into the perplexing case of Kouri Richins, a woman accused of poisoning her husband. The twist? Corey penned a children's book post the alleged crime. Through meticulous analysis of the book's content, the duo uncovers potential hidden confessions and the psychological implications behind them. Dr. Johnston provides insights into the mind of a potential criminal, while Sheryl's investigative expertise shines through.

Show Notes:

[0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. Sheryl recounts a childhood memory, introducing the concept that authors might inadvertently reveal their secrets through writing
[2:15] Timeline of Kouri Richins case
[6:01] Children’s Book: Are You With Me?
[6:05] Sheryl introduces guest Dr. Joni Johnston, a forensic psychologist, to the listeners
[6:28] Serial Killers 101 Questions True Crime Fans Ask
[12:16] Sheryl points out an unsettling line from the book, suggesting it might be a veiled confession
[15:58] Dr. Johnston posits that the book seems more autobiographical than intended for children
[16:25] Differences between adult and child symptoms of nervousness, panic attacks
[20:15] A particular phrase in the book is criticized for its ominous undertones
[25:29] The duo discuss the psychological intricacies of violent behavior and potential underlying mental disorders
[29:02] Question: Do you think there is a common thread sometimes with people that are accused or convicted of something and then go and write a book?
[30:39] Traits common among murderers are explored, painting a clearer picture of Corey's potential mindset.
[33:30] The absence of Kouri from her own book is analyzed, suggesting a possible attempt to distance herself from her actions
[35:00] Sheryl dissects the title of the book and it’s possible meaning
[38:06] ”You never speak to anybody and get the truth. Parts of it, pieces of it, but it's always just a little out of focus.” - J.K
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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.

You can connect and learn more about Sheryl’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org

Social Links:

Email: coldcase2004@gmail.com
Twitter: @ColdCaseTips
Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

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NYPD’s Finest: Inside Cold Cases with Detective Giacalone Aug 02, 2023

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In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, talks with Detective Joseph Giacalone, a 20-year NYPD veteran. Together, they discuss the nuances of investigations, highlighting the transformation of crime scene practices and the importance of evidence preservation. Detective Joseph sheds light on his experiences, emphasizing the role of communication and the emotional toll of unsolved cases, especially those involving children. Together, they champion the potential of modern tools like drones and videotaping, while navigating the challenging terrains of the Bronx and Brooklyn.

Show Notes:

[0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. Sheryl reminisces about her encounter with retired FBI agent James O. Ponder and his high-profile cases
[1:44] Sheryl introduces Detective Joseph Giacalone to the listeners
[3:12] Det. Joseph underscores the significance of communication skills in investigations, reflecting on his tenure
[4:06] Question: Can you tell us about Charles Taylor and Stephen Mason?
[4:11] Det. Joseph revisits the haunting Charles Taylor and Stephen Mason case, drawing parallels with past cases
[7:54] The hurdles of revisiting decades-old cases are discussed, emphasizing the possible loss of critical evidence
[12:16] Question: Going back to Charles and Steven. They had a two-year-old younger brother and lived with their mama on Valentine Avenue. Was there anything that stuck out to you from the beginning about the address?
[15:01] Question: Do you think that there's any chance there could be DNA on their clothing?
[19:01] Det. Joseph shares his commitment to transparency and education shines through as he discusses sharing expertise
[20:38] Question: I know you worked Queens and I know you worked The Bronx. When you work a case, no matter what it is, homicide or missing person, did you work differently in those different neighborhoods?
[20:55] The thin spread of NYPD's Bronx Cold Case Squad is discussed, highlighting the necessity of autonomous detectives
[23:00] The challenges of working in various neighborhoods are explored, focusing on police-community dynamics
[25:51] Question: Going back to these two little boys, Charlie and Steven, what is it about their case that still pulls you, still draws you?
[28:52] “Hope is not a plan, but sometimes when you're dealing with cold cases, it's all you have. And you just have to just keep on hammering away, and like everything else, the harder you work, the luckier you get. Hope is not a plan, but sometimes it's all you get.” -Detective Joseph Giacalone
[29:18] Sheryl recalls her childhood dream of marrying an Italian detective
[32:38] “It's important for these unspeakable things to be spoken up because they actually happened in this world.” -J.W
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You can connect and learn more about Sheryl’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org

Social Links:

Email: coldcase2004@gmail.com
Twitter: @ColdCaseTips
Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

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LISK (Long Island Serial Killer): Part 2 with Kerri Rawson Jul 27, 2023

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The primary suspect in the LISK (Long Island Serial Killer) was arrested on July 13, 2023, and charged with three counts of murder in connection with the 13-year-old Gilgo Beach slayings. He is suspected in a fourth case.

On this episode of Zone 7, Sheryl McCollum, a Crime Scene Investigator, is joined by Kerri Rawson, the daughter of the infamous BTK killer as they provide updates regarding the Long Island serial killer case.

Show Notes:

[0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. Sheryl brings back guest, Kerri Rawson to provide updates about the LISK case
[1:29] Question: Kerri can you tell me, not the last few days. But even the last 45 minutes, what has all gone through your mind with the information that's coming out now about the excavation on Long Island?
[4:41] Kerri provides details around the underground vault located under the suspects home
[9:06] Who was H.H Holmes?
[10:55] Question: I think we're gonna see maps and drawings and journals and codes with Rex. Do you agree?
[11:00] Kerri speculates what might come out in the media regarding the vault found
[15:00] Question: Have you heard the lady that has come out and said that the suspect just creeped her out and she wouldn't get in the car?
[17:27] Kerri expresses a need for the community to be patient with law enforcement throughout the investigation to ensure accuracy in statements made
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You can connect and learn more about Sheryl’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org

Social Links:

Email: coldcase2004@gmail.com
Twitter: @ColdCaseTips
Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

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LISK (Long Island Serial Killer) Panel: A Zone 7 Discussion Jul 25, 2023

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In this engrossing episode of the "Zone 7" podcast, host Sheryl McCollum delves deep into the Long Island serial killer case.

With a diverse panel that includes former NYPD Sergeant Joseph Giacalone, forensic psychologist Dr. Joni Johnston, and polygraph expert Lisa Ribacoff, Mike Morford host of the Criminology Podcast, listeners get a comprehensive understanding of the investigation, its psychological intricacies, the real-life impacts of crime, and the role podcast and other media play in solving these cases.

Special guest Kerri Rawson, the daughter of the infamous BTK killer, offers a unique perspective on the human aftermath of crime. The discussion transcends the specifics of the case, touching on the roles of podcasters in true crime and urging respect and patience when discussing ongoing investigations.

Show Notes:

[0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. Sheryl shares a story from a school teacher following the introduction of the team of experts in this episode
[1:37] Sheryl gives an overview of the Long Island serial killer case, revealing the chilling details and the killer's suspected patterns
[5:12] Question: Can you talk a little bit about what law enforcement is doing after they have a person in custody?
[6:16] Question: What do you think right now is the most intriguing piece of evidence to you?
[7:15] The role of Medical Legal Investigators (MLIs) in cold case digs is highlighted, with Giacalone noting how serial killers often keep "trophies"
[8:51] Question: How do you function as a professional, raise children, and maintain a marriage? And at the same time, be this predatory killer?
[8:55] Joni E. Johnston introduces the idea that some individuals can effectively compartmentalize their lives, making their criminal activities harder to detect
[12:33] Question: If he was willing to talk, what questions would you have for him, and in what order?
[13:10] The intriguing world of polygraph tests is unveiled as Lisa Ribacoff shares her approach to interviewing suspects
[16:47] Kerri Rawson’s profound insights on the complexities of being related to a notorious criminal. Her experience brings a deeply personal touch to the narrative
[18:08] Mike Morford highlights the influential role of podcasters in shining a light on cold cases and aiding investigations
[22:15] Question: When you're working a task force like this how difficult is it to get everybody to stay on the same page and move as one?
[23:06] Giacalone paints a picture of the investigation's intricacies, from triumphs to stumbling blocks
[24:54] Delving into the psychological, Sheryl and Joni discuss the delicate task of profiling a criminal while empathizing with the perpetrator's family
[26:36] Question: Lisa? You’re there on Long Island. What is the pulse like of that community?
[29:49] Question: Tell me, how do you balance it so that you are respectful to law enforcement, the pending case, both sides, both families?
[32:00] Rawson candidly discusses her advocacy work and the emotional journey of supporting other families impacted by crime
[38:12] Question: Lisa, with your expertise in statement analysis and in polygraph, how do you weed out the true reports and the false reports?
[45:40] An exploration of a chilling concept: the idea of 'metaphysical trophies' and the psychological warfare some criminals deploy
[49:38] Rawson offers a rare glimpse into her life, highlighting the many faces of a serial killer, including that of a father
[52:47] Final thoughts from the panel of experts
[58:39] “Crime must be evaluated in its totality. There is no substitute for experience. And if you want to understand the criminal mind, you must go directly to the source and learn to decipher what he tells you. And above all, why plus how equals who” -J.D, Mindhunter
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You can connect and learn more about Sheryl’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org

Social Links:

Email: coldcase2004@gmail.com
Twitter: @ColdCaseTips
Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

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True Crime Broads: The Unsolved Case of Missy Bevers Jul 19, 2023

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On April 18, 2016, the body of fitness instructor Missy Beavers is found at Creekside Church of Christ in Midlothian, Texas.

Bevers' murder gained significant media attention after Midlothian police released surveillance footage from inside the church. Captured around the time period shortly before Bevers' murder, the surveillance footage shows an unknown person, dressed in what appears to be police tactical gear, walking around the church's hallways. Police believe the person in the video is Bevers' murderer.

In this episode of "Zone 7," Crime Scene Investigator Sheryl McCollum talks with guests Crystal and Renae from True Crime Broads. They explore the peculiarities of Missy Beavers's unsolved crime, the influence of social media on investigations, and the power of civilian involvement in solving cases.

With backgrounds as diverse as motherhood and a passion for true crime, Crystal and Renae bring unique perspectives to the discussion.

Show Notes:

[0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. Sheryl shares an inspiring story of her friend Betsy, who sets up a house for domestic violence victims in her county, underlining the significance of individual actions
[2:13] Sheryl introduced the unsolved murder case of Missy Beavers in a small-town church called Creekside Church of Christ on April 18, 2016
[3:42] Sheryl discusses the chilling surveillance footage from the church, heightening the mystery of the case
[5:33] Crystal and Renae from True Crime Broads, are introduced to the listeners
[7:22] The trio delve deeper into the peculiarities of the Missy Beavers case, broadening the scope of the conversation
[10:05] A description of the eerie behavior of the perpetrator as seen on the church's surveillance footage, intensifies the intrigue
[12:05] Question: What do you think about the church? Why do you think it was chosen as the location of the murder?
[13:04] “I guess if some crazy person wanted to get her alone, [the church] would be a place to do it.”
[15:05] Question: Did you both have any internal feelings about the church surveillance video?
[18:38] Crystal and Renae reveal their initiative to keep the case alive through a billboard, demonstrating the power of public engagement
[20:07] Question: Before the podcast was created, were either of you in law enforcement or did you have any previous training in investigations?
[20:30] Crystal and Renae open up about their backgrounds, debunking the myth that one needs formal training to contribute to crime solving
[24:00] Sheryl emphasizes the pivotal role of media in reaching a vast audience, aiding in solving crimes
[26:14] The common reasons for murder and how they may relate to the Beavers case
[28:17] The conversation hones in on the unusual sequence of events on the day of the murder, involving the killer's swift actions post the crime
[31:57] To follow the Missy Beavers Case on True Crime Broads click HERE, or check out their IG page @truecrimebroads, and Facebook @truecrimebroads
[32:16] If anyone who's local might have any information, please call Midlothian Police or call Crime Stoppers. The Midlothian number is 972 775 3333. There is an independent reward of 150, 000. If you call Crime Stoppers and remain anonymous, the reward is up to 1,000. That number is 972 937 7297.
[34:47] “There is no branch of detective science, which is so important and so neglected as the art of tracing footsteps.” -A.D
Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner.

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About the ‘Zone 7’ Host

Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award-winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnline, a forensic and crime scene expert for “Crime Stories with Nancy Grace,” and a CSI for a metro-area Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook, “Cold Case: Pathways to Justice.”

McCollum is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students, and the criminal justice community. They come together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.

You can connect and learn more about McCollum’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org

Social Links:
- Email: coldcase2004@gmail.com
- Twitter: @ColdCaseTips
- Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

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WebSleuths Unleashed: The New Era of Crime Investigation with Tricia Griffith Jul 12, 2023

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In this episode of Zone 7, Sheryl McCollum dives deep into the instrumental role civilians play in solving crimes.

She opens by examining the famous case of the Zodiac Cipher and segues into the tragic cold case of Ernestine Andridge. Sheryl introduces the powerful community of WebSleuths, headed by Tricia Griffith, which has changed the face of online crime investigation.

Griffith shares how WebSleuths has evolved from a small chaotic forum to a well-structured community of over 200,000 members, aiding in investigations of high-profile cases like those of Abraham Shakespeare and Casey Anthony.

The duo then delve into the pros and cons of social media in crime-solving and how online communities are reshaping the landscape of crime investigation.

Show Notes:

[00:00:00] Sheryl McCollum introduces the role of civilians in crime-solving, using the example of the Zodiac Cipher.
[00:01:22] Sheryl shares her realization of civilians' importance in crime-solving.
[00:03:11] Sheryl reveals the cold case of Ernestine Andridge, noting the challenges faced in its resolution.
[00:05:17] The role of civilian involvement in solving cold cases is emphasized, introducing Web Sleuths.
[00:07:50] Tricia Griffith, founder of Web Sleuths, is introduced to the episode.
[00:08:14] Tricia recounts the growth and transformation of Web Sleuths.
[00:09:21] Griffith highlights the importance of each Web Sleuths community member in case-solving.
[00:10:05] Sheryl likens the Web Sleuths community to a prayer group.
[00:11:06] Griffith explains the indirect, but crucial, role of Web Sleuths in solving cases.
[00:12:02] Griffith discusses Web Sleuths' contribution to the murder case of lottery winner Abraham Shakespeare.
[00:14:25] The significant role of Web Sleuths in the Casey Anthony case is discussed.
[00:16:00] Tricia shares a heart-touching conversation about online defamation.
[00:17:30] An instance where a Web Sleuths member uncovers crucial missed information is explored.
[00:18:30] Tricia discusses Web Sleuths' relationship with law enforcement.
[00:20:00] Griffith recounts the Boston Bomber incident and the importance of not spreading unverified information.
[00:21:00] Sheryl encourages listeners to consider joining Web Sleuths.
[00:23:00] Tricia expresses hope in using DNA evidence from Authrin Labs for a challenging case.
[00:24:10] Tricia invites listeners to join the army of online armchair detectives on WebSleuths.
[00:26:00] Sheryl discusses the power and potential pitfalls of social media in crime-solving.
[00:28:30] Griffith shares how WebSleuths helped solve a 23-year-old case.
[00:30:00] Sheryl acknowledges the efforts of Tricia and her army of WebSleuths.
[00:31:30] Sheryl praises Tricia Griffith's dedication to solving cold cases, both high-profile and low-profile.

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Moore's Ford Bridge Murders: Part Four Final | Johnny Lee Clary Jul 05, 2023

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The Moore's Ford lynchings, or the 1946 Georgia lynching, refer to the brutal murders of four young African Americans by a mob of white men on July 25, 1946.

The incident occurred near Moore's Ford Bridge in Walton and Oconee counties, Georgia. The victims were two married couples: George W. and Mae Murray Dorsey, and Roger and Dorothy Malcolm. The case attracted national attention, prompting large protests in Washington, D.C., and New York City. President Harry Truman created the President's Committee on Civil Rights and introduced anti-lynching legislation in Congress, but it was blocked by the Southern Democratic bloc.

The FBI investigated the case in 1946 but could not find sufficient evidence to charge anyone. The cold case was reopened in the 1990s, but the state of Georgia and the FBI closed their cases in December 2017 without any prosecution.

In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum narrates the story of the meeting with ex-KKK imperial wizard, Johnny Lee Clary. Through a surprising connection with Reverend Watts, a local NAACP leader, Clary experiences a profound transformation, revealing the strength of compassion and resilience in the face of prejudice.

Also shared is the story of a student, Pho, grappling with the reality of law enforcement. Highlighting real-life instances of personal change and the power of love

Show Notes:

[0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum.
[0:16] Recap of the investigation into the Morse Ford Bridge cold case involving a civil rights crime
[1:10] In a bold move, Sheryl arranges a meeting with ex-KKK imperial wizard, Johnny Lee Clary, to gather information about the cold case
[2:00] Sheryl introduces Pho, her student who will be joining in a meeting with Johnny Lee Clary
[4:10] Unpacking the realities of law enforcement work, where allegiance is to justice rather than personal preferences
[7:21] At age 14, Johnny Lee Clary joined the clan
[7:55] Introduction to Reverend Wade Watts via Johnny's story
[8:24] Sheryl narrates the surprising story of Johnny Lee’s interaction with Reverend Watts, a tale of confrontation met with unexpected kindness
[11:24] The memorable first meeting of Johnny Lee and Reverend Watts in 1979 which played a vital role in Johnny’s transformation is recollected
[12:40] A change of heart for Johnny
[16:51] Drawing from personal experiences, Sheryl underscores the power of love and goodness in overcoming preconceived notions
[18:00] An uplifting update about Pho’s journey from student to successful bail enforcement officer in Georgia
[18:55] “You can't do enough to me to make me hate you. I'm gonna love you, and I will pray for you, whether you like it or not.” -Reverend Wade Watts
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You can connect and learn more about Sheryl’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org

Social Links:

Email: coldcase2004@gmail.com
Twitter: @ColdCaseTips
Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

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Chasing the Truth: The Molly and Colt Case | Paula Fielder Jun 28, 2023

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On July 7, 2013, 17-year-old Molly Miller and 22-year-old Colt Haynes disappear in Love County after a car chase with police.

The car was driven by a friend, James Con Nipp. Police lost the vehicle somewhere in the area of Long Hollow Rd. and Oswalt Rd in Love County, Oklahoma. Miller and Haynes disappear after the pursuit. Nipp was prosecuted for the car chase in 2014, but no one has been charged in the disappearances of Colt and Molly.

In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, talks with Paula Fielder, Molly’s cousin. Together, they explore the role of law enforcement and the Chickasaw Nation, emphasizing the need for increased attention to the case

. A chilling find in a ravine and a call to check DNA evidence build suspense, leading to an anticipation-filled conclusion with Paula's announcement of a 10-year remembrance event at Love County Courthouse.

If you have any information about this case call 800-522-8017 or submit a tip online at tips@osbi.ok.gov

There will be a candlelight vigil for Molly and Colt held at the Love County courthouse on July 8, 2023, from 6-9 pm. Anyone who is interested in celebrating the memory of Molly and Colt is welcome.

Show Notes:

[0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. Sheryl begins the episode with an emotional story about her sister Sharon's disappearance during a family trip to Jekyll Island
[3:18] Sherly recaps the missing case of Molly and Colt. If you haven’t listened to the previous episodes surrounding this case, check them out here - Zone 7 Legends : Lisa Ribacoff - Molly Miller and Colt Hayes, Chasing the Truth: The Molly and Colt Case | Maureen O’Connell, Chasing the Truth: The Molly and Colt Case | Rob and Cindy Dorfman
[4:26] Guest Paula Miller Fielder, Molly's cousin, is introduced, recounting her decade-long search for Molly and Colt
[5:09] Paula voices her gratitude for the ongoing interest and coverage of Molly's case
[9:20] Paula details a moment of false hope from 2013, when a rock mistaken for a skull was discovered
[12:18] Question: When you first were told Molly was missing, how were you told? And what was your first reaction to it?
[13:17] Remenencing the distressing phone call she received from Molly's mother, pleading for her help
[16:43] Question: When did you first start to realize, or did you know, that law enforcement would be a hurdle?
[18:56] Sheryl expresses skepticism about the official story of the car being stolen and wrecked
[20:29] Question: Was there ever a phone call where somebody spoke with Molly?
[20:34] Molly's desperate calls for help, claiming they were lost
[21:40] Question: How did they know where to tell people to come and get them?
[27:12] Sheryl asserts the necessity for more official resources to be allocated to Molly and Colt's case
[28:12] Bureau of Indian Affairs is now involved in the case, given Molly's Chickasaw heritage
[30:29] Paula narrates the chilling discovery of a freezer and bones in a ravine
[32:46] Question: Do you still have the bones that you found?
[32:55] Sheryl suggests conducting DNA testing on the discovered bones
[34:53] “Sometimes, when one person is missing, the whole world seems depopulated.” -A.D.L
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Zone 7 Legends : Lisa Ribacoff - Molly Miller and Colt Hayes Jun 21, 2023

Show notes

On July 7, 2013, 17-year-old Molly Miller and 22-year-old Colt Haynes disappear in Love County after a car chase with police.

In this timely episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, talks with Lisa Ribacoff, a seasoned polygraph expert. Together, they explore the evolution of polygraph technology, its applications, and Ribacoff's unique experiences solving high-profile cases.

If you have any information about this case call 800-522-8017 or submit a tip online at tips@osbi.ok.gov

Show Notes:

[0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum.
[1:54] Sheryl gives listeners a recap of the case of Molly Miller and Colt Haynes, who vanished after a high-speed police chase. If you missed the previous episode regarding this case visit this link Chasing the Truth: The Molly and Colt Case | Rob and Cindy, and Chasing the Truth: The Molly and Colt Case | Maureen O’Connell
[3:09] Introduction to Lisa Ribacoff, a polygraph whiz, tracing her journey from a family business to multiple offices on the East Coast
[7:30] Question: Regarding the audio and video that you received regarding Colt and Molly, can you tell us your first impressions, or takeaways from it?
[8:20] Lisa elaborates on the first piece of evidence she examined - an intriguing audio recording
[11:00] The duo stress the importance of emotional engagement and continuous training in their field
[12:20] Question: Can you explain the strategy behind polygraph questioning?
[16:00] Sheryl recounts her recent encounter with a polygraph test
[17:37] The progression of polygraph technology, from analog to digital
[20:00] “A 99 on a polygraph means that you didn't tell me a hundred percent of the truth”
[21:31] Lisa shares her ability to detect deception, beyond the polygraph machine
[23:30] How linguistic shifts can indicate deception
[24:12] Question: How many polygraphs have you done?
[29:55] Sheryl emphasizes the crucial role of expertise in preventing injustice
[31:05] “We are both in our careers for the idea of closure”
[31:52] Question: Will you address a little bit the polygraph as an investigative tool?
[31:30] Lisa explains the primary objectives of polygraph tests
[35:50] Question: With Colt and Molly, what do you think could be done now using your techniques?
[38:51] “Listen, I don't know anything about polygraphs. And I don't know how accurate they are, but I know they'll scare the hell outta people.” -R.M.N
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Chasing the Truth: The Molly and Colt Case | Maureen O’Connell Jun 14, 2023

Show notes

On July 7th, 2013 17-year-old Molly Miller and 22-year-old Colt Haynes disappear in Love County after a car chase with police. The car was driven by a friend, James Con Nipp. Police lost the vehicle somewhere in the area of Long Hollow Rd. and Oswalt Rd in Love County, Oklahoma. Miller and Haynes disappear after the pursuit. Nipp was prosecuted for the car chase in 2014, but no one has been charged in the disappearances of Colt and Molly.

In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, talks with retired FBI special agent Maureen O’Connell about the disappearance of Molly Miller and Colt Haynes. Together, they recount their journey investigating this case, sharing insights into their process of collecting potential evidence, unique challenges presented when investigating potential water-based crime scenes, and interpreting crime scene clues, and much more.

If you have any information about this case call 800-522-8017 or submit a tip online at tips@osbi.ok.gov

Show Notes:

[0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. Sheryl recalls her early experiences with her older siblings that piqued her interest in law enforcement
[1:44] Sheryl gives listeners a recap of the case of Molly Miller and Colt Haynes, who vanished after a high-speed police chase. If you missed the previous episode regarding this case visit this link Chasing the Truth: The Molly and Colt Case | Rob and Cindy
[2:45] Sheryl introduces retired FBI special agent Maureen O'Connell to the listeners
[6:30] The duo shares their investigative journey in Oklahoma, traversing dense woods and waterways in search of clues
[9:30] Maureen elaborates on the thought process and challenges of visualizing different crime scenarios to deduce the most probable outcome
[10:20] Sheryl highlights Maureen's instinct-driven approach during investigations, constantly brainstorming new ideas
[11:52] The investigators commend their team's dedication, especially Toby, who played a crucial role in their work
[12:29] Question: Can you tell the listeners your approach when working on a crime scene?
[15:30] The meticulous process of sifting through potential evidence
[16:33] Maureen underlines the importance of documenting evidence locations, aiding in focusing their search
[20:23] The investigators speculate that the victims could be nearby, suggesting a quick, simple body disposal
[21:07] “The hallmark of any good investigator, as you well know, is to go exactly where the evidence leads you.”
[25:45] Question: If you could go back in time, what would you do day one and minute one?
[28:40] A visit to the scene allows Maureen and Sheryl to connect the dots in their investigation, with the fishing hole and pier providing key insights
[29:50] A conversation with Toby, reveals crucial information about the suspects' illegal activities on his land
[30:47] “Trust your gut.” -A.W
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