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    Health & Fitness

    ZOE Science & Nutrition

    The world’s top scientists explain the latest health, nutrition, and gut health research and translate it into practical advice to improve your health & weight. Join ZOE Science & Nutrition, on a journey of scientific discovery. Hosted by Jonathan Wolf.

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    Most replayed moment: Why sleep may be the key to heart health | Dr Nour Makarem Aug 11, 2026
    Show notes

    Today we’re talking about sleep.

    The more scientists study sleep, the clearer it becomes that it’s not just about resting our bodies - it’s much more than that. In fact, sleep is the foundation upon which a healthy diet, exercise, and overall wellbeing are all built upon.

    So what happens when that foundation is shaky?

    Recent research suggests that poor sleep quality may significantly increase your risk of heart disease and even heart attacks.

    Dr. Nour Makarem joins me to explore the powerful connection between sleep and heart health - and why both too little and too much sleep is a cause for concern.


    🌱 Try our science-backed and tasty wholefood supplement Daily30

    Get our brand-new app and Gut Health Test designed by world-leading gut health and nutrition scientists to build healthy eating habits 👉 Join ZOE

    Follow ZOE on Instagram.


    📚Books by our ZOE Scientists

    The Food For Life Cookbook

    Every Body Should Know This by Dr Federica Amati

    Food For Life by Prof. Tim Spector

    Ferment by Prof. Tim Spector

    Good Mood Food (preorder) by Prof. Tim Spector


    Free resources from ZOE

    The Hormone Harmony Guide: Tuning Your Body’s Internal Orchestra

    Eating for Better Brain Health: Your brain-gut blueprint

    How to eat in 2026 - Discover ZOE’s 8 nutrition principles for long-term health

    Live Healthier: Top 10 Tips From ZOE Science & Nutrition

    Gut Guide - For a Healthier Microbiome in Weeks

    Better Breakfast Guide


    Have feedback or a topic you'd like us to cover? Let us know here.

    Episode transcripts are available here.


    The evolutionary science behind why you can’t lose weight and how to avoid 5 modern food mistakes | Prof Daniel Lieberman Aug 06, 2026
    Show notes

    Why can’t you lose weight, and why do modern diets fail?

    Today, Harvard professor Daniel Lieberman explains how evolution shapes hunger, body fat, food cravings, and modern food mistakes. You will learn why eating well can feel so hard in today’s food world.

    Using themes from Daniel’s new book, Fed Up: What Evolution Reveals about Food, Diet and Eating Well, we explore how our modern food environment explains weight gain, failed diets, and confusion about what to eat. We discuss calorie counting, ultra-processed food, hunger, and why there may be no single “best” diet for everyone.

    By the end of the episode, you’ll have some simple ways to make better food choices and will know how to make healthy choices easier.

    If your body evolved for a world where food was scarce, what does that mean for how you eat today?

    🌱 Try our science-backed and tasty wholefood supplement Daily30

    🌿Let your gut microbes snack on the ZOE Gut Health Bar

    Build healthy habits. Download the ZOE app today and start your trial for just £2.30 for your first week. 👉 Join ZOE

    Follow ZOE on Instagram.


    Timecodes

    00:00 Intro

    03:34 The 3 reasons evolution changes what you eat

    07:28 Why supermarkets make healthy eating harder

    10:51 Why sugar and fat are so hard to resist

    12:12 Are humans really fatter than hippos?

    13:20 Why your brain burns so much energy

    14:25 Why humans evolved to hold onto fat

    16:06 The 3 hidden costs behind body fat

    18:23 How cooking changed the human body

    19:15 Why raw food may not be natural for humans

    22:08 Did farming make humans less healthy?

    24:49 How processed food transformed what we eat

    28:22 Why modern food triggers ancient cravings

    29:48 What the paleo diet gets wrong

    31:08 Why there is no real paleo diet

    31:55 Why calorie counting can mislead you

    33:05 Why hunger beats willpower

    34:20 Why weight loss often comes back

    35:56 What you need to know before buying food

    36:53 Why no diet is truly optimal

    38:24 What the healthiest diets have in common

    40:08 Are your genes really making you gain weight?

    41:40 The simple shopping trick Daniel uses

    43:46 Why the 8-hour sleep rule is wrong

    45:25 Why stress makes you crave comfort food

    51:30 Why simple diet rules fail


    📚Books by our ZOE Scientists

    The Food For Life Cookbook

    Every Body Should Know This by Dr Federica Amati

    The Appetite Reset by Dr Federica Amati

    Food For Life by Prof. Tim Spector

    Ferment by Prof. Tim Spector

    Good Mood Food (preorder) by Prof. Tim Spector

    Free resources from ZOE

    The Smart Snacking Guide: How to feed your gut, fuel your day, and snack without guilt

    The Hormone Harmony Guide: Tuning Your Body’s Internal Orchestra

    Eating for Better Brain Health: Your brain-gut blueprint

    How to eat in 2026 - Discover ZOE’s 8 nutrition principles for long-term health

    Live Healthier: Top 10 Tips From ZOE Science & Nutrition

    Gut Guide - For a Healthier Microbiome in Weeks

    Better Breakfast Guide


    Mentioned in today's episode

    Fed Up: What Evolution Reveals about Food, Diet and Eating Well by Daniel Lieberman

    Comparing dietary variation between tropical hunter-gatherer groups to the Paleo Diet, The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition (2023)

    The carbohydrate-insulin model: a physiological perspective on the obesity pandemic, The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition (2021)

    Have feedback or a topic you'd like us to cover? Let us know here.

    Episode transcripts are available here.



    Most replayed moment: Do you really need vitamin supplements? | David Seres Aug 04, 2026
    Show notes

    Today we’re talking about vitamins.

    Walk into any pharmacy or supermarket and you’ll find a shelf stacked with brightly coloured jars promising better immunity, stronger bones and sharper minds. Of course, I’m talking about vitamin supplements.

    But despite looking like medical products, supplements aren’t held to the same rigorous testing standards as medicines. So how much of what they promise is actually backed by science?

    I’m joined by Dr. David Seres to help cut through the confusion and uncover what the science really says about vitamin C, vitamin D, and even the mysterious multivitamins.

    🌱 Try our science-backed and tasty wholefood supplement Daily30

    Get our brand-new app and Gut Health Test designed by world-leading gut health and nutrition scientists to build healthy eating habits 👉 Join ZOE

    Follow ZOE on Instagram.


    📚Books by our ZOE Scientists

    The Food For Life Cookbook

    Every Body Should Know This by Dr Federica Amati

    Food For Life by Prof. Tim Spector

    Ferment by Prof. Tim Spector

    Good Mood Food (preorder) by Prof. Tim Spector


    Free resources from ZOE

    The Hormone Harmony Guide: Tuning Your Body’s Internal Orchestra

    Eating for Better Brain Health: Your brain-gut blueprint

    How to eat in 2026 - Discover ZOE’s 8 nutrition principles for long-term health

    Live Healthier: Top 10 Tips From ZOE Science & Nutrition

    Gut Guide - For a Healthier Microbiome in Weeks

    Better Breakfast Guide


    Have feedback or a topic you'd like us to cover? Let us know here.

    Episode transcripts are available here.



    How to reduce your heart disease, dementia and cancer risk with 12 everyday high-fibre foods | Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall & Prof Sarah Berry Jul 30, 2026
    Show notes

    Could 12 everyday high-fibre foods really help lower your risk of heart disease, dementia and some cancers?

    The world is obsessed with protein, but fewer than 1 in 10 people eat enough fibre. But this year, fiber is making an unexpected comeback.

    In this episode, legendary chef Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall and ZOE’s Chief Scientist Professor Sarah Berry ask whether fibre is another food trend or a powerful part of our diet that we have overlooked.

    Taking inspiration from Hugh’s new book High Fibre Heroes, they explore how fibre feeds your gut microbes, helps you feel full and slows the release of sugar into your blood. And, by the end of the episode, you’ll know how to eat more fibre without costly ingredients or difficult recipes, and how to turn familiar foods into simple meals packed with flavour.

    Are you buying more protein while overlooking the foods your body may need most? The answer could already be in your cupboard, freezer or fridge.

    🌱 Try our science-backed and tasty wholefood supplement Daily30

    🌿Let your gut microbes snack on the ZOE Gut Health Bar

    Build healthy habits. Download the ZOE app today and start your trial for just £2.30 for your first week. 👉 Join ZOE

    Follow ZOE on Instagram.


    Timecodes

    00:00 Intro

    00:57 Why the protein craze may be distracting us

    04:51 How fibre may lower your disease risk

    10:11 How much fibre do you actually need?

    12:03 Why low-fibre food can leave you hungry

    14:19 What 30g of fibre actually looks like

    16:20 Why fibre diversity matters

    18:51 Is fibre maxxing actually healthy?

    21:08 The fibre mistake that can cause constipation

    21:33 Has the world gone too far on protein?

    23:25 Are most of us already eating enough protein?

    25:42 How meat can push vegetables off your plate

    28:20 Why healthy eating has to taste better

    31:01 The 12 everyday foods that boost fibre

    33:18 Why frozen peas are a healthy shortcut

    35:00 Can frozen peas be healthier than fresh?

    36:24 How to make frozen peas taste better

    38:28 The mistake that ruins carrots

    39:58 Why roasting makes vegetables taste better

    42:24 What makes carrots so healthy?

    44:31 Can cooked carrots be healthier than raw?

    48:06 Kale vs cabbage — which is healthier?

    52:18 How to make cabbage actually taste good

    53:48 The easiest way to use more beans

    54:24 How to start eating more fibre today


    📚Books by our ZOE Scientists

    The Food For Life Cookbook

    Every Body Should Know This by Dr Federica Amati

    The Appetite Reset by Dr Federica Amati

    Food For Life by Prof. Tim Spector

    Ferment by Prof. Tim Spector

    Good Mood Food (preorder) by Prof. Tim Spector

    Free resources from ZOE

    The Smart Snacking Guide: How to feed your gut, fuel your day, and snack without guilt

    The Hormone Harmony Guide: Tuning Your Body’s Internal Orchestra

    Eating for Better Brain Health: Your brain-gut blueprint

    How to eat in 2026 - Discover ZOE’s 8 nutrition principles for long-term health

    Live Healthier: Top 10 Tips From ZOE Science & Nutrition

    Gut Guide - For a Healthier Microbiome in Weeks

    Better Breakfast Guide


    Mentioned in today's episode

    High Fibre Heroes: How to turn 12 everyday vegetables into 100 joyful, health-boosting recipes by Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall

    ZOE’s PREDICT studies: What we’ve learned


    Have feedback or a topic you'd like us to cover? Let us know here.

    Episode transcripts are available here.



    Most replayed moment: The surprising science of weight loss | Alan Aragon & Professor Sarah Berry Jul 28, 2026
    Show notes

    Today we’re talking about fat loss.

    For decades, we’ve been chasing the perfect weight loss diet. From Atkins to carnivore, countless trends have promised remarkable results, yet fail the test of time.

    So how do we cut through the noise and find a formula that actually works?

    In this episode, I’m joined by nutrition researcher Alan Aragon and Professor Sarah Berry to unpack the science behind sustainable fat loss, and explain why, in some cases, the first step toward losing weight might actually involve gaining a little first.


    🌱 Try our science-backed and tasty wholefood supplement Daily30

    Get our brand-new app and Gut Health Test designed by world-leading gut health and nutrition scientists to build healthy eating habits 👉 Join ZOE

    Follow ZOE on Instagram.


    📚Books by our ZOE Scientists

    The Food For Life Cookbook

    Every Body Should Know This by Dr Federica Amati

    Food For Life by Prof. Tim Spector

    Ferment by Prof. Tim Spector

    Good Mood Food (preorder) by Prof. Tim Spector


    Free resources from ZOE

    The Hormone Harmony Guide: Tuning Your Body’s Internal Orchestra

    Eating for Better Brain Health: Your brain-gut blueprint

    How to eat in 2026 - Discover ZOE’s 8 nutrition principles for long-term health

    Live Healthier: Top 10 Tips From ZOE Science & Nutrition

    Gut Guide - For a Healthier Microbiome in Weeks

    Better Breakfast Guide


    Have feedback or a topic you'd like us to cover? Let us know here.

    Episode transcripts are available here.


    How to eat sugar without gaining weight (crush your cravings and end energy crashes) | Prof Tim Spector & Prof Sarah Berry Jul 23, 2026
    Show notes

    How can you enjoy sugar without gaining weight, fuelling cravings or crashing later in the day? The answer, surprisingly, is not to cut it out.

    In today’s episode, Professor Tim Spector and Professor Sarah Berry discuss which forms of sugar affect your blood sugar levels most, and what small changes you can make today to reduce the impact. They also explore how sharp blood sugar spikes and dips may affect hunger, energy, inflammation and long-term health.

    By the end of the episode, you’ll know how to spot hidden sugars, how to avoid the afternoon slump and energy crashes, and, most importantly, how to enjoy cake with less impact on your blood sugar.

    Sugar is not the enemy. But could a few small changes help you enjoy sweet foods without the cycle of cravings, hunger and energy crashes?

    🌱 Try our science-backed and tasty wholefood supplement Daily30

    🌿Let your gut microbes snack on the ZOE Gut Health Bar

    Build healthy habits. Download the ZOE app today and start your trial for just £2.30 for your first week. 👉 Join ZOE

    Follow ZOE on Instagram.


    Timecodes

    00:00 Intro

    03:28 If fruit is full of sugar, why is it good for us?

    08:30 What really happens after you drink a sugary drink?

    12:46 Why sugar leaves you hungry a few hours later

    16:15 The blood sugar dip that makes you eat 320 extra calories

    19:19 The surprising link between sugar and inflammation

    22:00 Can blood sugar affect your brain health?

    25:25 What the science really says about sugar and cancer

    29:25 We've been blaming sugar for the wrong things

    31:45 The 2 types of sugar most people confuse

    32:35 The hidden sugars lurking in everyday foods

    35:32 Why energy drinks may be worse than you think

    38:51 Why orange juice may not be as healthy as you think

    40:10 Why fruit and fruit juice are not the same thing

    43:53 Why some smoothies behave like sugary drinks

    45:03 Should you quit sugar completely?

    46:46 Are sweeteners helping or keeping you hooked?

    49:55 Is honey actually healthier than sugar?

    51:40 3 everyday foods with surprisingly high sugar

    52:27 How to enjoy cake without the blood sugar crash

    55:01 The 10-minute habit that lowers your glucose response

    57:15 Why energy drinks may be making your slump worse

    58:32 The biggest sugar traps to watch out for


    📚Books by our ZOE Scientists

    The Food For Life Cookbook

    Every Body Should Know This by Dr Federica Amati

    The Appetite Reset by Dr Federica Amati

    Food For Life by Prof. Tim Spector

    Ferment by Prof. Tim Spector

    Good Mood Food (preorder) by Prof. Tim Spector

    Free resources from ZOE

    The Smart Snacking Guide: How to feed your gut, fuel your day, and snack without guilt

    The Hormone Harmony Guide: Tuning Your Body’s Internal Orchestra

    Eating for Better Brain Health: Your brain-gut blueprint

    How to eat in 2026 - Discover ZOE’s 8 nutrition principles for long-term health

    Live Healthier: Top 10 Tips From ZOE Science & Nutrition

    Gut Guide - For a Healthier Microbiome in Weeks

    Better Breakfast Guide


    Mentioned in today's episode

    Dietary Sugar Intake Associated with a Higher Risk of Dementia, Journal of Alzheimer's Disease (2024)

    Sugar-Sweetened and Artificially Sweetened Beverages and Risk of Mortality, AHA (2019)

    A Twin Study of Acne in Women, Journal of Investigative Dermatology (2002)

    Bananas and weight loss: What does the science say?

    Food Order and Impact on Glucose and Insulin Levels, Diabetes Care (2015)

    Here are 4 ways to help manage your blood sugar

    Whole Fruits Versus 100% Fruit Juice, BNF (2025)

    Have feedback or a topic you'd like us to cover? Let us know here.

    Episode transcripts are available here.



    Most replayed moment: Why muscle gain matters more than weight loss | Vonda Wright Jul 21, 2026
    Show notes

    Today we’re talking about muscle mass.

    For many people, losing weight is the ultimate health goal. However, focusing solely on lowering the number on the scale often means overlooking something crucial: muscle mass.

    We know that increasing muscle makes us stronger, but it also plays a surprising role in metabolism and helps keep unwanted fat at bay.

    Dr. Vonda Wright joins me to explain why improving your body composition may be the smarter goal for lifelong health.


    🌱 Try our science-backed and tasty wholefood supplement Daily30

    Get our brand-new app and Gut Health Test designed by world-leading gut health and nutrition scientists to build healthy eating habits 👉 Join ZOE

    Follow ZOE on Instagram.


    📚Books by our ZOE Scientists

    The Food For Life Cookbook

    Every Body Should Know This by Dr Federica Amati

    Food For Life by Prof. Tim Spector

    Ferment by Prof. Tim Spector

    Good Mood Food (preorder) by Prof. Tim Spector


    Free resources from ZOE

    The Hormone Harmony Guide: Tuning Your Body’s Internal Orchestra

    Eating for Better Brain Health: Your brain-gut blueprint

    How to eat in 2026 - Discover ZOE’s 8 nutrition principles for long-term health

    Live Healthier: Top 10 Tips From ZOE Science & Nutrition

    Gut Guide - For a Healthier Microbiome in Weeks

    Better Breakfast Guide


    Have feedback or a topic you'd like us to cover? Let us know here.

    Episode transcripts are available here.



    The 6 rules you need for a long, healthy life and how to cut your risk of dementia, heart disease and cancer | Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel Jul 16, 2026
    Show notes

    What really helps you live a long, healthy life? Can healthy ageing be as simple as a few everyday habits?

    In this episode, Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, world-leading oncologist, bioethicist and World Health Organization adviser, shares six rules from his book Eat Your Ice Cream that may help lower your risk of dementia, heart disease, cancer and early death.

    Ezekiel explores the science of healthy ageing, longevity and disease prevention, and explains why many wellness trends distract us from what matters most.

    By the end of the episode, you’ll have six practical habits that have the biggest impact on living well for longer. From building stronger relationships and staying mentally active to improving your diet, exercise and sleep, Ezekiel offers a simple framework designed to support health over decades, not weeks.

    If you want to live a longer, healthier life, are you focusing on the habits that matter most?

    🌱 Try our science-backed and tasty wholefood supplement Daily30

    🌿Let your gut microbes snack on the ZOE Gut Health Bar

    Build healthy habits. Download the ZOE app today and start your trial for just £2.30 for your first week. 👉 Join ZOE

    Follow ZOE on Instagram.


    Timecodes

    00:00 Why more exercise may not help you live longer
    03:49 The book that made a leading doctor furious
    08:11 Why wellness culture thrives when life feels out of control
    10:52 What the wellness industry gets wrong about longevity
    13:05 Are peptides and supplements dangerous?
    16:28 How much alcohol is safe to drink?
    18:52 How ultra-processed food affects your brain and body
    23:49 Is vaping safer than smoking?
    25:35 Which vitamins and supplements are actually worth taking?
    28:09 Rule one: The risks that are never worth taking
    30:12 Is climbing Everest more dangerous than you think?
    31:27 The number one rule for a longer, healthier life
    33:35 How loneliness increases your risk of early death
    35:51 What loneliness does to your immune system and heart
    37:03 How many close friends do you need for better health?
    39:20 Is working from home harming your mental health?
    40:08 How to rebuild your social life when you feel isolated
    40:52 Four vaccines linked to a lower risk of dementia
    44:21 Is retirement bad for your brain?
    45:32 Four simple food rules for better gut health
    47:56 The three types of exercise you need as you age
    50:17 How many hours of sleep do you really need?
    52:24 Is sleep less important than social connection?
    54:02 Why sleeping pills may not improve your sleep
    56:13 The one habit that combines all six longevity rules


    📚Books by our ZOE Scientists

    The Food For Life Cookbook

    Every Body Should Know This by Dr Federica Amati

    The Appetite Reset by Dr Federica Amati

    Food For Life by Prof. Tim Spector

    Ferment by Prof. Tim Spector

    Good Mood Food (preorder) by Prof. Tim Spector


    Free resources from ZOE

    The Smart Snacking Guide: How to feed your gut, fuel your day, and snack without guilt

    The Hormone Harmony Guide: Tuning Your Body’s Internal Orchestra

    Eating for Better Brain Health: Your brain-gut blueprint

    How to eat in 2026 - Discover ZOE’s 8 nutrition principles for long-term health

    Live Healthier: Top 10 Tips From ZOE Science & Nutrition

    Gut Guide - For a Healthier Microbiome in Weeks

    Better Breakfast Guide


    Mentioned in today's episode

    Eat Your Ice Cream: Six Simple Rules for a Long and Healthy Life by Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel

    Multivitamins and cognitive health, Annals of Medicine and Surgery (2026)

    The (un-)Social Brain, Physiological Research (2025)

    Association between social activity frequency and overall survival, BMJ (2023)

    The Health and Retirement Study

    Harvard Study of Adult Development

    Mistakenly seeking solitude, Journal of Experimental Psychology (2014)

    Home alone: Remote work, isolation, and mental health, Science (2026)


    Have feedback or a topic you'd like us to cover? Let us know here.

    Episode transcripts are available here.



    Most replayed moment: Omega-3: heart health hero or overhyped? | Dr. Bill Harris and Professor Sarah Berry Jul 14, 2026
    Show notes

    Today, we’re talking about Omega-3.

    Omega-3 fats have been celebrated, scrutinised, and debated for decades. While some research points to remarkable heart health benefits, other studies suggest they can actually raise the risk of cardiovascular disease.

    So where does the science stand today? Should we supplement, rely on food, or rethink our approach to omega-3 completely?

    Dr. Bill Harris and Professor Sarah Berry join me to cut through the confusion, explain omega-3’s role in the body, and share an evidence based approach to this fascinating fatty acid.


    🌱 Try our science-backed and tasty wholefood supplement Daily30

    Get our brand-new app and Gut Health Test designed by world-leading gut health and nutrition scientists to build healthy eating habits 👉 Join ZOE

    Follow ZOE on Instagram.


    📚Books by our ZOE Scientists

    The Food For Life Cookbook

    Every Body Should Know This by Dr Federica Amati

    Food For Life by Prof. Tim Spector

    Ferment by Prof. Tim Spector

    Good Mood Food (preorder) by Prof. Tim Spector


    Free resources from ZOE

    The Hormone Harmony Guide: Tuning Your Body’s Internal Orchestra

    Eating for Better Brain Health: Your brain-gut blueprint

    How to eat in 2026 - Discover ZOE’s 8 nutrition principles for long-term health

    Live Healthier: Top 10 Tips From ZOE Science & Nutrition

    Gut Guide - For a Healthier Microbiome in Weeks

    Better Breakfast Guide

    Have feedback or a topic you'd like us to cover? Let us know here.

    Episode transcripts are available here.



    Is eating like our ancestors the key to better health? What the Paleo diet gets right, and the 5 ancient diet claims that are dangerously wrong for your heart and gut health | Dr James Cole & Dr Federica Amati Jul 09, 2026
    Show notes

    We all want to eat healthier. The Paleo diet promises exactly that: eat like our ancestors, avoid modern foods, and improve your health. But does it really support your gut, heart and long-term health, or is the story more complicated?

    In this episode, Dr James Cole, a world-leading expert on prehistoric diets, joins Dr Federica Amati to explore what Paleo gets right and why some of the claims may be dangerously wrong.

    James explains what ancient evidence tells us about human diets, why the modern-day Paleo diet may go too far in its restrictions, and what that might mean for your heart disease risk and gut health.

    By the end of the episode, you’ll have ideas on what principles to keep from the Paleo diet, and what rules to avoid.

    Could trying to eat as our ancestors did force you to cut foods your body actually needs? Before you give up grains, beans or dairy, it may be worth asking what ancient humans really ate.

    🌱 Try our science-backed and tasty wholefood supplement Daily30

    🌿Let your gut microbes snack on the ZOE Gut Health Bar

    Get our brand-new app and Gut Health Test designed by world-leading gut health and nutrition scientists to build healthy eating habits 👉 Join ZOE

    Follow ZOE on Instagram.


    Timecodes

    00:00 Intro

    04:39 What does Paleolithic actually mean?

    09:14 How scientists know what ancient humans ate

    10:01 What ancient teeth reveal about diet

    11:25 Why there was no single Paleo diet

    13:16 The myth that ancient humans just ate meat

    15:38 Why humans evolved to eat many foods

    17:14 Why the human gut got smaller

    22:13 How fire changed the human diet

    24:02 Were ancient humans cooking plants?

    25:51 What modern eating has lost

    27:45 Did Paleolithic humans practise cannibalism?

    30:37 Should we copy everything our ancestors ate?

    32:56 What is the modern Paleo diet?

    34:32 What the Paleo diet gets right

    37:00 Did our ancestors eat meat every day?

    38:18 Why Paleo cuts grains, dairy and beans

    39:30 Are lectins in beans really dangerous?

    41:27 Why modern Paleo may be based on shaky science

    42:20 Is the Paleo diet healthy long term?

    44:45 What a healthier Paleo diet would look like

    46:17 The processed meat and cancer risk trap

    48:37 Is grass-fed beef really better?

    50:10 Should you fast like your ancestors?

    52:10 How to cut ultra-processed foods without Paleo

    56:20 What to eat instead of strict Paleo


    📚Books by our ZOE Scientists

    The Food For Life Cookbook

    Every Body Should Know This by Dr Federica Amati

    The Appetite Reset by Dr Federica Amati

    Food For Life by Prof. Tim Spector

    Ferment by Prof. Tim Spector

    Good Mood Food (preorder) by Prof. Tim Spector


    Free resources from ZOE

    The Smart Snacking Guide: How to feed your gut, fuel your day, and snack without guilt

    The Hormone Harmony Guide: Tuning Your Body’s Internal Orchestra

    Eating for Better Brain Health: Your brain-gut blueprint

    How to eat in 2026 - Discover ZOE’s 8 nutrition principles for long-term health

    Live Healthier: Top 10 Tips From ZOE Science & Nutrition

    Gut Guide - For a Healthier Microbiome in Weeks

    Better Breakfast Guide


    Mentioned in today's episode

    The Paleolithic diet and chronic disease risk, Critical Reviews in Food Science and Nutrition (2026)

    Long-term Paleolithic diet is associated with increased serum TMAO concentrations, European Journal of Clinical Nutrition

    Evidence for mitigation of dental caries by Neanderthals, PLOS One (2026)

    Evidence for the diets of Neanderthals and early modern humans, PNAS (2009)

    Long-term effects of a Palaeolithic-type diet, European Journal of Clinical Nutrition (2014)

    The Big IF Study: What did we find?

    The Expensive-Tissue Hypothesis, International Journal of Molecular Sciences (2018)


    Have feedback or a topic you'd like us to cover? Let us know here.

    Episode transcripts are available here.




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