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Ep 56: Rewriting and Replacing Adaptations [Rebranding Trauma Therapy Series] Aug 01, 2023

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Adaptations are all things we created in response to something we learned in life, often during a traumatic experience. Whether that experience happened in childhood or as adults, we learned how to cope and feel safe. And those adaptations perform a positive function, whether they’re healthy or not.

The important thing to remember is that adaptations can and should change over time, especially if they’ve become problematic, like disordered eating, alcohol abuse, compulsive shopping, gambling addictions, and self-harm, among other things.

You have the power to make these changes and to become the master of your own destiny.

In this week’s video, I’m showing you how to approach them with compassion, understanding, and an eagerness to grow beyond them. By embracing productive, safe conversations and powerful modalities like EMDR, Brainspotting, or Accelerated Resolution Therapy (ART), you'll unlock the keys to transformation.

Adaptations from our childhood were written by kids whose brains weren’t fully developed yet. So it makes sense that we can approach this with a sense of understanding and compassion rather than judgment.

Let’s notice the consequences of our adaptations and get creative about how we can replace them with something that serves you today.

The first step is EMDR, Brainspotting, or Accelerated Resolution Therapy (ART) and a place where you can have productive, safe conversations about what’s happening inside the choices we’ve made.

Listen in and be sure to watch the whole series on rebranding trauma therapy.

When something traumatic happens to us, it can be healing to have a therapist listen to and/or validate our horrible experience, especially if no one else has before. However, rehashing details of traumatic events can be retraumatizing. Brain-based therapies like EMDR teach us that we don't have to talk about the trauma or the details if we don't want because the real healing doesn't focus on the traumatic event itself.

The Zero Disturbance podcast is for educational purposes and is not a replacement for a therapeutic relationship or individualized mental health or medical care.

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Therapists, access our favorite free resources in The Zero Disturbance Welcome Bundle, full of free videos and downloads to help you develop your clinical reasoning skills, as well as ways to feel like an intentional designer of high-value offerings like intensives and passive income. Use these free resources to make the seemingly impossible feel absolutely accessible!

With a Masters in Education from Vanderbilt, Kambria has been creating trainings and teaching adult learners for over 20 years. As the Director of Education and Quality Improvement at Stanford Medical School, she created ease in complex systems, thereby giving medical trainees successful learning experiences. Now, as a dedicated mom, therapist, and EMDR Consultant, Kambria knows what it means to do things efficiently, effectively, and in a learner-centered way. When she isn't podcasting or creating online courses, you can find Kambria playing with her twins on a beach in California.

Ep 55: We’re Always Ready for Trauma Therapy [Rebranding Trauma Therapy Series] Jul 29, 2023

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While every therapist has their own methods and systems for working with clients, one of the most harmful things they can say to a client is, “You’re not ready for trauma therapy.” Especially when there’s no explanation or plan for getting the client “ready.”

Every client is ready for trauma therapy because, if you’re following along with this series, we’re rebranding the practice itself.

The role of therapists is to support clients in identifying their adaptations to trauma and learning or relearning skills to allow them to move forward. To do this, clients need the right team, the right tools, and the right skills.

In this week’s video, I’m sharing what clients need for success and a framework for therapists as they support their clients in EMDR and brain-based modality therapy. It’s vital that every client has access to the therapy they need and that no one is ever turned away from services.

This is part three in a series about rebranding trauma therapy. You can watch or listen to the whole series here.

The Zero Disturbance podcast is for educational purposes and is not a replacement for a therapeutic relationship or individualized mental health or medical care.

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Ep 54: Refocusing Trauma Therapy [Rebranding Trauma Therapy Series] Jul 26, 2023

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Talking about details of trauma doesn’t feel good for the therapy client, which is why it’s so important that we create a reframe not only around therapy in general, but especially in brain-based modalities like Brainspotting and EMDR in particular.

Not convinced that we should stop talking about “trauma therapy”? This week, I’m sharing three truths around why in an effort to convince you of another perspective.

Therapists are taught to think and work in black and white, that therapy is done in a very specific way with the same benchmarks for clients along the way. But life and interacting with humans doesn’t work that way. There are often extenuating circumstances, like COVID in 2020, that impact us all and don’t give people the opportunity to feel safe in any environment.

This is why therapists need to focus on the adaptations possible during the therapeutic process.

In this week’s video, I’m sharing why we need to look for a Plan B, what scary movies can teach us about trauma responses, and how planning a vacation illustrates the expansive possibilities around safety and adaptations.

This is part two in a series about rebranding trauma therapy. You can watch or listen to the whole series here.

When something traumatic happens to us, it can be healing to have a therapist listen to and/or validate our horrible experience, especially if no one else has before. However, rehashing the details of that traumatic event can be retraumatizing. Brain-based therapies like EMDR teach us that we don't have to talk about the trauma or the details if we don't want because the real healing doesn't focus on the traumatic event itself.

The Zero Disturbance podcast is for educational purposes and is not a replacement for a therapeutic relationship or individualized mental health or medical care.

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Ep 53: Trauma Therapy’s Branding Crisis [Rebranding Trauma Therapy Series] Jul 25, 2023

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After a hiatus from the podcast, I’m back. I’m listening to my heart and what I truly believe others need so that therapy can positively impact as many people as possible. So I’m here, talking to those who are curious about how to make their therapeutic experience smarter and more customized for them. Everyone should get out of therapy exactly what they need.

And that means I’m still talking to therapists too, because I believe there’s a different language we need to use when talking about any kind of therapy. Language that opens doors instead of limits clients in what they’re working on. I’ll still talk a lot about EMDR because that’s what I specialize in, but I’ll also address other types of therapy and how to make it more accessible to clients.

To start, let's talk about the way we talk about trauma therapy. It matters, especially for the person seeking therapy. If we focus solely on trauma, therapists limit their potential to support their clients because “trauma therapy” doesn’t sound very inviting to most people. Instead, we should focus therapy on exploring the decisions and adaptations people have made as a result of their difficult experiences, their trauma. This broader approach invites empowerment and a more fulfilling therapeutic journey.

It’s so important that we change the way we think and talk about therapy because methods like EMDR can impact so much more than trauma responses themselves. We're talking about changing the way we learn. By diving into the adaptations we've developed to cope with the past, we can reshape our responses and create positive changes. EMDR isn't just about acquiring knowledge; it transforms how our brain and body learn and respond.

So, let's rethink trauma therapy together. By embracing the empowering potential of EMDR, therapists empower clients to actively participate in their healing. It's about going beyond trauma, focusing on personal growth, adaptive responses, and creating a life that truly reflects our values and aspirations.

Keep listening because I have so much more to share on this topic.

When something traumatic happens to us, it can be healing to have a therapist listen to and/or validate our horrible experience, especially if no one else has before. However, rehashing the details of that traumatic event can be retraumatizing. Brain-based therapies like EMDR teach us that we don't have to talk about the trauma or the details if we don't want because the real healing doesn't focus on the traumatic event itself.

The Zero Disturbance podcast is for educational purposes and is not a replacement for a therapeutic relationship or individualized mental health or medical care.

Come learn with us at Zero Disturbance:

Ready to keep learning with the Zero Disturbance community?

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About Kambria Evans

With a Masters in Education from Vanderbilt, Kambria has been creating trainings and teaching adult learners for 20 years. As Director of Education and Quality Improvement at Stanford Medical School, her job was to decomplicate and consolidate complex systems and topics, thereby giving medical trainees successful learning experiences. Now, as a busy mom of fraternal twins, dedicated business owner of Zero Disturbance, and EMDRIA Approved Consultant, Kambria knows what it means to do things efficiently, effectively, and in a learner-centered way.

Ep 52: Understanding Attachment with Dr. Mara Tesler-Stein Jul 28, 2022

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In our field, we hear and use the word attachment so often. And, in the community of trauma-informed clinicians, I'd always felt like we had a deep understanding of what this word means.

But when I sat down with Dr. Mara Tesler-Stein for the second time on The Zero Disturbance Podcast, we got to unpack the lack of understanding that lies within this concept for our clients... and possibly even for the folks in our clinical communities.

A lot of research in the perinatal field suggests that we jump to a "disturbed attachment" diagnosis with our NICU babies. However, Mara helps redirect us to what she sees as the real key to fostering secure attachment for parents and children.

And the answer is not so reliant on the NICU experience that the research suggests. In fact, it's actually quite simple.

If parents of NICU babies are able to respond with attunement, responsiveness, and sensitivity, then secure attachment will find its way. And yes, that means that parents need to put in their own work, spending time reflecting on their own attachment behaviors and styles, but when that work is navigated, they're able to give their babies the secure attachment they so lovingly want to offer.

And that's the magic in the trauma-informed therapy we offer our adult clients.

This interview was a powerful reminder of how the narratives we create about parents or kids are sometimes an interpretation (or misinterpretation) of behaviors and urges. As we explored attachment and parenting throughout the lifespan, even touching on complex diagnoses such as neurodivergence, the vulnerable child, and RAD, Mara brought me "back to home base" in the NICU.

Join us as we learn how to trust and listen to parents, help them create healthy narratives, and teach them what secure attachment actually looks like!

You won't want to miss the clinical gold nuggets sprinkled throughout a beautiful conversation about the capacity to bond, attach, attune, and heal.

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Mara Tesler Stein, Psy.D., PMH-C is a clinical psychologist practicing in Chicago and Jerusalem. She is the founder and director of The Touchstone Institute for Psychotherapy and Training where she offers both EMDR Foundational trainings for perinatal specialists & advanced EMDR workshops which take a deeper dive into the intersections and applications of EMDR and perinatal mental health.

Dr. Stein is a staunch advocate for trauma-focused care and is trained and certified in a range of integrative trauma therapies. A certified EMDR therapist, EMDRIA Approved Consultant and Trainer for the Institute for Creative Mindfulness, Dr. Stein is also certified in Emotion-Focused Family and Couple Therapy, is a Gottman Certified Therapist, and continues to pursue training in Clinical Hypnosis, Yoga-Informed treatment, Advanced applications of EMDR, Brainspotting, and Ego-State therapies.

She is the co-author (with Deborah Davis, Ph.D.) of Parenting Your Premature Baby and Child: The Emotional Journey (Fulcrum, 2004) and Intensive Parenting: Surviving the Journey Through the NICU (Fulcrum, 2013).

Her trauma work is grounded in her personal perinatal journey, which began 25 years ago taking her through infertility, twin pregnancy, prolonged hospital bedrest, the NICU, and years of raising NICU graduates.

Learn more about Mara's training here.

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Zero Disturbance offers comprehensive resources for therapists on EMDR-informed clinical reasoning, intensive design, passive income systems, & teaching excellence.

Ready to get started in the Zero Disturbance community? Access our favorite free resources in The Zero Disturbance Welcome Bundle, full of free videos and downloads to help you develop your clinical reasoning skills, as well as ways to feel like an intentional designer of high-value offerings like intensives and passive income. Use these free resources to make the seemingly impossible feel absolutely accessible!
Ready to set up intensive therapy options in your practice? It's time to get you out of back-to-back, 50 minute sessions and experience real financial freedom. We supported hundreds of therapists make this successful transition, and are excited to help you, too! Design an intensive model that works best for you with The Intensive Design Kit!
Ready to go all in and work with Kambria? You should be surrounded by life-long learners who are encouraging, learner-centered, and transparent about the success of their business as you build yours. All therapists are welcome, and EMDRIA hours available for those with EMDR focused practices. Whether you're seeking Certification, AC, or already a Consultant, we encourage you to get clinical and business strategies in The Consultation Program because there's nothing like it.

Ep 51: Transformed with Wendy Jones Jul 25, 2022

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Supporting families, even under the best circumstances, can be challenging. So what happens when we need to support families when the world is not set up for their kids to succeed... or even survive?

I had the opportunity to sit down with author Wendy Jones to discuss what it means to show up not only as a therapist for our young, trans clients but also what it means to show up for their parents.

Not unlike any other new or different experience, folks benefit from getting support from those who have a similar thing happening in their life. And that's exactly what Wendy has set out to do with her new book, Transformed.

In our conversation, we dive into our shared experience as moms to trans kids. We share stories about what our kids said and did that helped guide us in understanding their truth. For us, it looked similar; for other parents to gender non-conforming kids, it can look different. But one thing remains true; the value in following our kids' lead, in each singular moment, as they show up in front of us.

And, for a therapist, or any other adult in a trans kid's life, it's the same strategy.

Did you know that 41% of gender non-conforming individuals will attempt to take their own lives? That's 10 times higher than their cis-counterparts. And, trust me, I know that's a harrowing statistic, but there is good news.

Wendy helps us understand the power we hold as therapists and how gender affirming adults are a key piece in the preservation of young, trans lives. Studies show that with at least one supportive adult, suicide rates decrease.

How powerful is that?

With research like this growing rapidly, it's clear that it's time for clinicians to get trained in how to offer gender-affirming care for trans and gender non-conforming clients.

Y'all, Wendy and I get vulnerable in our conversation. We talk about how we tried, and sometimes failed, at finding resources, how we grieved the loss of the futures we had visualized for our kids, and how we navigated losing friends and family members who just couldn't get on board.

I'm feeling empowered to share this with you and my hope is that you'll listen, learn and grow with us.

Gender non-conforming kids are a gift to the world and if as therapists, parents, and adults we can begin to educate ourselves on how to affirm their identities, we're one step closer to understanding the beauty that lies within their lived experience.

Listen to our podcast episode today because, if you haven't already seen a trans client, it's going to happen sooner than you realize. And being prepared is going to be the difference in saving someone's life.

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As a gender therapist and mom to a transgender child, Wendy felt there was a strong need in the world to support parents of trans kids.

She knew that her own journey was challenging at first, and finding support wasn't always an easy thing. As she had been working with transgender people and their parents over the past five years, Wendy came to find that the parents were oftentimes scared and felt alone in the process of accepting their child's gender identity.

Due to the time constraints of therapy, she wanted to find a way to reach more parents with her own hard-earned strength and wisdom. Writing seemed to be just the right medium to accomplish this goal. Books were one of the main ways that her family got the necessary knowledge to start their gender journey eight years ago. However, there weren't many books out there that offered both lived/personal and clinical experiences.

Wendy hopes that her book can reach parents around the world that are in need of education, support, and encouragement. Her overreaching goal is to help trans kids by helping their parents and to be a strong positive force in today's gender revolution.

Get Wendy's book here.

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Learn more about Zero Disturbance:

Zero Disturbance offers comprehensive resources for therapists on EMDR-informed clinical reasoning, intensive design, passive income systems, & teaching excellence.

Ready to get started in the Zero Disturbance community? Access our favorite free resources in The Zero Disturbance Welcome Bundle, full of free videos and downloads to help you develop your clinical reasoning skills, as well as ways to feel like an intentional designer of high-value offerings like intensives and passive income. Use these free resources to make the seemingly impossible feel absolutely accessible!
Ready to set up intensive therapy options in your practice? It's time to get you out of back-to-back, 50 minute sessions and experience real financial freedom. We supported hundreds of therapists make this successful transition, and are excited to help you, too! Design an intensive model that works best for you with The Intensive Design Kit!
Ready to go all in and work with Kambria? You should be surrounded by life-long learners who are encouraging, learner-centered, and transparent about the success of their business as you build yours. All therapists are welcome, and EMDRIA hours available for those with EMDR focused practices. Whether you're seeking Certification, AC, or already a Consultant, we encourage you to get clinical and business strategies in The Consultation Program because there's nothing like it.

Ep 50: Shared Decision Making in Trauma-informed Therapy Jul 19, 2022

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Anyone else feeling irritated by how clinicians love to tell each other what is right or wrong? Ever notice how scripts often don’t thoroughly address client preferences or the process of client engagement? Where is the role of autonomy for the client?

To remedy our irritation, today we zoom out and get curious about how we make clinical choices, and how we engage with our clients about making those clinical choices.

For EMDR clinicians, this can be tricky. Questions may already be coming up for you like: How do we make a shared decision with our clients when we have a protocol, step-by-step process, and/or script that we are to follow to do it right and be effective?

Herein lies the balancing act between positive health outcomes and patient autonomy. How and when do we make clinical choices with our clients? How do we follow the script or protocol, and stay client-centered? What’s important to the client? How do we triage what is clinically relevant? The questions are important, and the answers feel challenging.

Good news: physicians have been researching this for decades. And it’s time for us to catch up with the rest of the healthcare literature. Today, as we talk about shared decision making, we realize that we cannot say we are trauma-informed if we are not client-centered. I said what I said.

You deserve to have richer conversations with your clients, in consultation, and even in Facebook groups. As we dive into models of shared decision making, get clarity on which shared decision making model you’re using when you make clinical choices. By identifying your orientation along the shared decision making spectrum, you'll get to have more productive conversations with your colleagues and clients.

And you can finally understand how to make EMDR a client-centered therapy. Perhaps you were also clinically trained in a paternalistic model of shared decision making. I was, and boy did it mess me up. The paternalistic model tells us the rules about EMDR, like talking during Phase 4, what target to start from, and what form of BLS to use.

Let’s get curious about how to translate the gold of EMDR into the deliberative model of shared decision making so we can serve more clients effectively. What does EMDR in the deliberative model look like? Listen in to find out!

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Zero Disturbance offers comprehensive resources for therapists on EMDR-informed clinical reasoning, intensive design, passive income systems, & teaching excellence.

Ready to get started in the Zero Disturbance community? Access our favorite free resources in The Zero Disturbance Welcome Bundle, full of free videos and downloads to help you develop your clinical reasoning skills, as well as ways to feel like an intentional designer of high-value offerings like intensives and passive income. Use these free resources to make the seemingly impossible feel absolutely accessible!
Ready to set up intensive therapy options in your practice? It's time to get you out of back-to-back, 50 minute sessions and experience real financial freedom. We supported hundreds of therapists make this successful transition, and are excited to help you, too! Design an intensive model that works best for you with The Intensive Design Kit!
Ready to go all in and work with Kambria? You should be surrounded by life-long learners who are encouraging, learner-centered, and transparent about the success of their business as you build yours. All therapists are welcome, and EMDRIA hours available for those with EMDR focused practices. Whether you're seeking Certification, AC, or already a Consultant, we encourage you to get clinical and business strategies in The Consultation Program because there's nothing like it.

Ep 49: Innovation With Trauma-Informed Therapy and Practice Building Jul 16, 2022

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I had the opportunity to sit down with not one but two folks in the trauma-informed therapy and coaching communities. And not only was our conversation aligned around our similar value systems, it was yet another example of how innovative thinking offers clinicians the chance to go beyond the traditional images of what we see as therapy.

George Tabb and Noshima Darden-Tabb are a dynamic, married duo who run their own EMDR and Brainspotting private practice and coaching business. They help us understand what it means to work in your zone of genius when it comes to partnership in business, how to identify and use different clinical modalities, and what it takes to be a transformational clinician and trainer.

I was amazed to learn about what these folks have offered their communities and how their business is thriving because of it.

Take some time to listen to George and Noshima as they share anecdotes about their partnership in life, in their business, and their role in their community.

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George Tabb is a dynamic trainer and inspirational speaker. As an Approved Consultant & Trainer for EMDR he provides basic EMDR trainings and Critical Incident Trainings. If you are specifically seeking an EMDR training, you will have the unique opportunity to be trained and coached by a husband-wife team, George and Noshima. Noshima is also a Certified EMDR therapist and Coach. This makes for helpful nuances as they share experiences from their private practice and consultation briefings. Other trainings are designed upon request and based on the audience being trained. As a previous corporate trainer and speaker in the business community, George is also a highly requested inspirational speaker. Incorporating almost thirty years of business experience with clinical expertise, makes George a unique trainer for your practice or business.

Learn more about their training opportunities here.

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Zero Disturbance offers comprehensive resources for therapists on EMDR-informed clinical reasoning, intensive design, passive income systems, & teaching excellence.

Ready to get started in the Zero Disturbance community? Access our favorite free resources in The Zero Disturbance Welcome Bundle, full of free videos and downloads to help you develop your clinical reasoning skills, as well as ways to feel like an intentional designer of high-value offerings like intensives and passive income. Use these free resources to make the seemingly impossible feel absolutely accessible!
Ready to set up intensive therapy options in your practice? It's time to get you out of back-to-back, 50 minute sessions and experience real financial freedom. We supported hundreds of therapists make this successful transition, and are excited to help you, too! Design an intensive model that works best for you with The Intensive Design Kit!
Ready to go all in and work with Kambria? You should be surrounded by life-long learners who are encouraging, learner-centered, and transparent about the success of their business as you build yours. All therapists are welcome, and EMDRIA hours available for those with EMDR focused practices. Whether you're seeking Certification, AC, or already a Consultant, we encourage you to get clinical and business strategies in The Consultation Program because there's nothing like it.

Ep 48: EMDRIA's Innovation Journey Jul 12, 2022

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Whether we like it or not, the past two years have challenged us to design more innovative ways to run our practices and deliver mental health services. Perhaps you've been curious how EMDRIA has had to roll with the punches, too.

I got to sit down with former EMDRIA President, current EMDRIA Board Member, and EMDR Trainer, Carol Miles, to get the inside scoop.

Listen as Carol shares insight about EMDRIA's standardization process for virtual trainings since the start of the pandemic, details about how The Council of Scholars impacts the curriculum used for EMDRIA basic trainings, and EMDRIA's articulation of community values in response to cultural and social climates.

Following in the likeness of Francine Shapiro, EMDRIA strives to be a place where innovation is welcomed, not only in the name of research, but also in the name of serving the populations that need psychotherapy the most.

If we want to keep serving our clients, our community, and ourselves, we need to be building practices that function based on what's happening now, not what was happening then.

You won't want to miss our latest podcast episode to get the inside scoop on EMDRIA's journey with innovation.

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Carol Miles MSW, LCSW, a clinical social worker specializing in individual psychotherapy, maintains a private practice with adolescent and adult clients. She also provides EMDR training and consultation under her Three Rivers Training Center. She currently specializes in offering intensive EMDR therapy to address trauma and healing.

A graduate of LSU School of Social Work, Carol specializes in Clinical Social Work, with over 30 years of experience as a social worker in clinical, administration, and marketing with the public and private sectors. Among her areas of expertise are working with clients who have eating disorders and trauma. Carol has often presented at statewide conferences and to general audiences on topics ranging from Eating Disorders, Assertiveness, EMDR Therapy, DBT, and developing a private practice. She taught as an adjunct professor at the Tulane School of Social Work from 1998-2018.

Carol is an EMDRIA Certified Therapist, and an EMDRIA Approved Consultant and Trainer. She's been a member of EMDRIA since 2008, shortly after being trained in EMDR Therapy in New Orleans. As a volunteer for EMDRIA, she served as a member and co-chair of the Conference Committee and chair of the University Special Interest Group. She founded and is the Regional Co-Coordinator of the South Louisiana EMDR Network, stepping down in 2022. In 2017, she was elected to serve on the EMDRIA Board of Directors, 2017-2021. She served a 2-year term as the President of EMDRIA, 2019-2020. She currently serves as the Past-President of EMDRIA, 2021. She was appointed to fulfill a one-year term 2022.

Learn more about Carol at www.carolmiles.com.

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Zero Disturbance offers comprehensive resources for therapists on EMDR-informed clinical reasoning, intensive design, passive income systems, & teaching excellence.

Ready to get started in the Zero Disturbance community? Access our favorite free resources in The Zero Disturbance Welcome Bundle, full of free videos and downloads to help you develop your clinical reasoning skills, as well as ways to feel like an intentional designer of high-value offerings like intensives and passive income. Use these free resources to make the seemingly impossible feel absolutely accessible!
Ready to set up intensive therapy options in your practice? It's time to get you out of back-to-back, 50 minute sessions and experience real financial freedom. We supported hundreds of therapists make this successful transition, and are excited to help you, too! Design an intensive model that works best for you with The Intensive Design Kit!
Ready to go all in and work with Kambria? You should be surrounded by life-long learners who are encouraging, learner-centered, and transparent about the success of their business as you build yours. All therapists are welcome, and EMDRIA hours available for those with EMDR focused practices. Whether you're seeking Certification, AC, or already a Consultant, we encourage you to get clinical and business strategies in The Consultation Program because there's nothing like it.

Ep 47: Dissociation is a Superpower: Reducing Stigma with Dr. Jamie Marich Jul 05, 2022

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I sat down with the one and only Dr. Jamie Marich and had the opportunity to hear from a clinician whose transparency about their own identity is the very thing that makes them a great trainer, therapist, and overall human being.

In our conversation, we talk about how the messaging and training many therapists receive about dissociation creates an unfounded fear and misunderstanding about clients with dissociative minds.

Jamie's ability to take a critical look at the therapy community's fears while sharing her own lived experience as a person with a dissociative mind, is the key in helping us understand that our community is better off with a modified approach to dissociation.

We examine the value of disclosure and advocacy as an effort to decrease the stigma around this identity so that therapists may actually serve their dissociative clients.

It's time that the trauma-informed community understand the identities of the folks who seek out our help in a way that goes beyond protocol. And our hope is that instead of seeing the dissociative mind as something to be feared, we'll all begin to see it as a super power instead.

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Dr. Jamie Marich (she/they) describes herself as a facilitator of transformative experiences. A clinical trauma specialist, expressive artist, writer, yogini, performer, short filmmaker, Reiki master, TEDx speaker, and recovery advocate, she unites all of these elements in her mission to inspire healing in others. She began her career as a humanitarian aid worker in Bosnia-Hercegovina from 2000-2003, primarily teaching English and music while freelancing with other projects.

Jamie travels internationally teaching on topics related to trauma, EMDR therapy, expressive arts, mindfulness, and yoga, while maintaining a private practice and online education operations in her home base of Warren, OH. Jamie is the author of numerous books on trauma recovery and healing, with many more projects in the works. Marich is the founder of The Institute for Creative Mindfulness.

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Zero Disturbance offers comprehensive resources for therapists on EMDR-informed clinical reasoning, intensive design, passive income systems, & teaching excellence.

Ready to get started in the Zero Disturbance community? Access our favorite free resources in The Zero Disturbance Welcome Bundle, full of free videos and downloads to help you develop your clinical reasoning skills, as well as ways to feel like an intentional designer of high-value offerings like intensives and passive income. Use these free resources to make the seemingly impossible feel absolutely accessible!
Ready to set up intensive therapy options in your practice? It's time to get you out of back-to-back, 50 minute sessions and experience real financial freedom. We supported hundreds of therapists make this successful transition, and are excited to help you, too! Design an intensive model that works best for you with The Intensive Design Kit!
Ready to go all in and work with Kambria? You should be surrounded by life-long learners who are encouraging, learner-centered, and transparent about the success of their business as you build yours. All therapists are welcome, and EMDRIA hours available for those with EMDR focused practices. Whether you're seeking Certification, AC, or already a Consultant, we encourage you to get clinical and business strategies in The Consultation Program because there's nothing like it.

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