With the Bark Off: Conversations on the American Presidency

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"Dewey Defeats Truman" A conversation about the election of 1948 with A.J. Baime Mar 07, 2024

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New York Times bestselling author A.J. Baime joined us to discuss the famous outcome of the election of 1948. Baime is the author of The Accidental President: Harry S. Truman and the Four Months that Changed the World (2017), The Arsenal of Democracy: FDR, Detroit, and an Epic Quest to Arm an America at War (2014), Go Like Hell: Ford, Ferrari, and Their Battle for Speed and Glory at Le Mans (2009), and Dewey Defeats Truman: The 1948 Election and the Battle for America's Soul (2019).

Baime is a longtime regular contributor to the Wall Street Journal, and his articles have also appeared in the New York Times, the Washington Post, and numerous other publications.

Previewing the 2024 Presidential Election with Richard Hasen & Joshua Sellers Jan 18, 2024

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Last month, Mark Updegrove moderated a discussion at the Baker Institute for Public Policy, at Rice University, entitled "A presidential election with legal issues like no other." There, he interviewed two legal experts about the legal challenges faced by the GOP's leading presidential candidate, former President Donald Trump, one of the many unprecedented aspects of our presidential election later this year. Richard L. Hasen is Professor of Law and Political Science at UCLA and the Director of the Safeguarding Democracy Project. And Joshua Sellers is Professor of Law at the University of Texas at Austin.

A Conversation With Secretary Robert Gates Nov 30, 2023

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Robert Gates served in public life for over 50 years. He began his career as an entry-level CIA analyst and would rise the ranks to become director of the agency from 1991-93. In 2006, he was named Secretary of Defense by President George W. Bush as our nation waged war in Afghanistan and Iraq. He would retain the position for President Barack Obama until 2011, making him the only Secretary of Defense asked by a newly elected President to remain in the office.

Secretary Gates is the author of a number of bestselling books, including A Passion for Leadership and his memoir, Duty, and has served as President of Texas A&M and currently holds the position of Chancellor of the College of William & Mary. Mark Updegrove talked to him recently before a full house at the LBJ Library, where he offered his reflections on an increasingly chaotic world, including the Israel-Hamas War, the War in Ukraine, the security threats posed by an increasingly aggressive China, and the struggles we face here at home

A Conversation with Heather Cox Richardson Oct 26, 2023

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Heather Cox Richardson is professor of history at Boston College, and author of six major books about US history in the 19th Century. Among her best-known works are To Make Men Free: A History of the Republican Party, and How the South Won the Civil War: Oligarchy, Democracy and the Continuing Fight for the Soul of America.

In the past few years, Richardson has also become one of the most influential voices in American public life. Almost 2 million subscribers receive Letters From An American, a daily newsletter than delves into the historical context of the latest national and international news.

Her new book, Democracy Awakening, similarly sets current political controversies within the long sweep of American history. She joined us at the LBJ Library for a discussion on the book, and how she views our current political moment.

A Conversation with Jake Tapper Oct 13, 2023

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Jake Tapper is the chief Washington anchor for CNN, whose shows “The Lead with Jake Tapper” and “State of the Union” are fixtures of broadcast news.

Tapper has been covering politics in Washington for over 25 years--from the Clinton Administration through the Biden Administration. He’s also a best-selling author of five books, three of which are works of fiction, including his latest, All the Demons Are Here. During a recent visit to the LBJ Library to promote the book, Jake talked to Mark Updegrove about his reflections on the state of our democracy, the media landscape, President Joe Biden, and Biden’s presumptive Republican challenger in next year’s presidential election: former President Donald Trump.

"He becomes a genuine believer" A conversation about Abraham Lincoln with Josh Zeitz Sep 28, 2023

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President Lincoln is perhaps the most analyzed and studied of all America's 46 presidents, the subject of numerous outstanding biographies. Yet some aspects of his life remain difficult to fathom, not least his religious views.

In his new book, Lincoln's God, Josh Zeitz teases out Lincoln's complicated religious outlook, and makes clear just how important religion was to the course, and the outcome, of the Civil War.

Josh Zeitz writes for Politico, and has also been published in The Atlantic, The Washington Post, The New York Times, and The New Republic. He is also the author of several books, including Building a Great Society: Inside Lyndon Johnson's White House; Lincoln's Boys: John Hay, John Nicolay, and the War for Lincon's Image; and now, Lincoln's God: How Faith Transformed a President and a Nation.

"A key moment of our civil rights narrative that's never gotten its due" A conversation about Hubert Humphrey with Samuel Freedman Sep 14, 2023

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Samuel Freedman is a Professor at Columbia University and the award-winning author of ten books. In Into the Bright Sunshine he looks at the life of Hubert Humphrey, who would become Senator from Minnesota, Vice President to Lyndon Johnson, and the Democratic presidential nominee in 1968, who lost his bid for the presidency to Richard Nixon by less than one percentage point.

But it’s Humphrey’s early years that Samuel Freedman covers in his book, chronicling Humphrey’s humble beginnings in smalltown South Dakota and his move to Minneapolis, Minnesota, where Humphrey launched an activist political career that helped to change the trajectory of civil rights in America.

"A pathologically reasonable person in power" A Conversation about President Garfield with C.W. Goodyear Aug 31, 2023

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C.W. Goodyear is a writer and historian based in Washington, D.C. Earlier this year, he published his first book, President Garfield: From Radical to Unifier, which has earned effusive praise for meticulous research and eloquent writing about a president who has often flow under the radar.

Goodyear shines a light on James Garfield’s presidency but also dwells on his earlier career as a teacher, Ohio politician, Union general during the Civil War, and ultimately powerful member of the U.S. House of Representatives, where Garfield participated in many of the most contentious debates of the period after the Civil War.

Best of With the Bark Off 2023 (Part 1) Aug 17, 2023

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Late last year we did a “best of” year-end podcast that focused on top moments from With the Bark Off. It was no easy task to choose those moments given the sheer volume of great material we had to draw from, but it was fun and proved to be very popular among our listeners. We decided to make this a biannual thing to reflect on those moments that stood out to us in the last six months.

In this episode you will find vignettes on Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan, Edith Wilson, Jackie Kennedy, J. Edgar Hoover, and Joe Biden.

"Like all great leaders, he's learning and changing" A Conversation about MLK Jr. With Jonathan Eig (Pt 2) Aug 03, 2023

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Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. is a giant of American history, a figure celebrated in classrooms and public discourse for his towering contributions to the struggle for civil rights. And yet Jonathan Eig's biography, King: A Life, rooted in abundant newly available sources, is the first full-fledged study of King to be published in decades.

Eig joins us for an enlightening conversation about King’s life and legacy. This is the second of a two-part conversation; the first conversation was released on July 20, 2023.

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