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    Religion & Spirituality

    With and For hosted by Dr. Pam King

    With & For bridges psychology and spiritual wisdom to help you thrive. Hosted by developmental psychologist and ordained minister Dr. Pam King.

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    Freedom from Fear: Mental Health, Justice, and Hope for an Unencumbered Life in the Black Church with Rev. Dr. Dwight Radcliff Feb 19, 2024
    Show notes

    Seeing justice, equity, and social transformation through the lens of hip-hop culture and Christian faith, Rev. Dr. Dwight Radcliff offers a vision of freedom and unencumbered life for the future of the Black community to which we can all bear witness.

    Raising challenging questions about the meaning of thriving in a culture dominated by fear, he speaks in a prophetic voice, interweaving the powerful, compounding effects of the language of the Gospel and the language of hip-hop.

    As a cultural theologian, community leader, and pastor, one of Dwight’s many gifts is presence—presence to emotion, to the realty of injustice, and to the complexities of thriving in the context of race and gender.

    He speaks about the power of purpose and calling in his life, pointing out the unique insight hip-hop, rap, and R&B music can offer the human experience. He calls us to be attuned to the whole reality of pain, suffering, trauma, and struggle when discussing psychological and spiritual health and thriving. And he bears witness to fear, anger, and grief—re-sensitizing us to our pain and vulnerability—speaking truth for the sake of beauty and justice.

    In this conversation, we discuss:

    • Thriving as the ability to dream and live unencumbered, and the ways the Black church embodies that thriving
    • The grievous reality of Black double-consciousness that results from systemic racism
    • And his personal experience as a Black man today
    • Mental health in the Black community
    • The power of sanctified purpose
    • How hip-hop culture and music help us understand thriving at embodied, emotional, and familial levels, beyond the horizon of rational understanding
    • And how the prophetic vision of hip hop operates in the same tradition of justice spelled out by the Gospel that Jesus taught and lived.

    About Dwight Radcliff

    Theologian and pastor Rev. Dr. Dwight A. Radcliff Jr. is Academic Dean and director of the William E. Pannell Center for Black Church Studies and is Assistant Professor of Mission, Theology, and Culture at Fuller Theological Seminary. Prior to coming to Fuller, Dr. Radcliff taught at Vanguard University, Azusa Pacific University, and the Southern California School of Ministry.

    He has published in The Journal of Hip Hop Studies, and is a recipient of the Parish Pulpit Fellowship graduation prize and the Hooper/Keefe Preaching Award. He completed post-master’s studies at the Pontifical University of St. Thomas Aquinas and the University of Oxford.

    He currently serves as senior pastor of The Message Center in Gardena, California, where he leads with his wife, DeShun Jones-Radcliff, who serves as the church’s director of administration. He and his wife have two daughters.


    About the Thrive Center

    • Learn more at thethrivecenter.org.
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    About Dr. Pam King

    Dr. Pam King is Executive Director the Thrive Center and is Peter L. Benson Professor of Applied Developmental Science at Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy. Follow her @drpamking.

    About With & For

    • Host: Pam King
    • Senior Director and Producer: Jill Westbrook
    • Operations Manager: Lauren Kim
    • Social Media Graphic Designer: Wren Juergensen

    Special thanks to the team at Fuller Studio and the Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy.


    Life Worth Living: Faith, Flourishing, and What Matters Most with Dr. Miroslav Volf Feb 12, 2024
    Show notes

    We’re in a crisis of meaning. It’s like our existential compasses are off kilter. Uprooted from faith, social, and civic communities—the very institutions that once supplied narratives, a sense of identity, and belonging.

    But meaning and purpose are central to our spiritual health and therefore thriving. And theology comes into play because psychologists are more concerned with how meaning is made descriptively—looking at the cognitive and affective processes of our brains and behavior. Whereas theologians are concerned with prescriptive meaning, commenting normatively about how we should live.

    This episode features renowned theologian Miroslav Volf (Henry B. Wright Professor of Systematic Theology at Yale Divinity School / Founder and Director of the Yale Center for Faith and Culture) and author of the bestselling book, Life Worth Living: A Guide to What Matters Most.

    We need stories of love and hope to define our lives. And much of Miroslav's life's work has been devoted to understanding what constitutes a life worth living.

    In our conversation, he shares about a God who is with us, who is loving, and who created us for love, calling us to an active role in the flourishing of this world.

    In this conversation, we discuss:

    • How to discern what really matters and how to be intentional about a life worth living
    • The need to challenge the hyper individualistic assumptions of our day, focusing on thriving life as a life of connections and convictions
    • Spiritual health as dependent on our relationships with one another, with God, and creation
    • Spiritual practices that quiet, create space, and slow us down—allowing us to attune a broad and secure space for human becoming and unfolding
    • Miroslav speaks openly and vulnerably about his own experiences of faith, suffering, hope, and flourishing

    About Miroslav Volf

    Miroslav Volf is the Henry B. Wright Professor of Theology at Yale Divinity School and is the Founder and Director of the Yale Center for Faith and Culture.

    He was educated in his native Croatia, the United States, and Germany, earning doctoral and post-doctoral degrees (with highest honors) from the University of Tübingen, Germany. He has written or edited more than 20 books, over 100 scholarly articles, and his work has been featured in the Washington Post, Christianity Today, Christian Century, Sojourners, and several other outlets, including NPR, On Being with Krista Tippett, and Public Television’s Religion and Ethics Newsweekly.

    His books include Life Worth Living: A Guide to What Matters Most, Exclusion and Embrace: A Theological Exploration of Identity, Otherness, and Reconciliation, Free of Charge: Giving and Forgiving in a Culture Stripped of Grace, Allah: A Christian Response, After Our Likeness: The Church as the Image of the Trinity, A Public Faith: How Followers of Christ Should Serve the Common Good, The End of Memory: Remembering Rightly in a Violent World, Flourishing: Why We Need Religion in a Globalized World, For the Life of the World: Theology that Makes a Difference (with Matthew Croasmun), and The Home of God: A Brief Story of Everything (with Ryan McAnnally-Linz).


    About the Thrive Center

    • Learn more at thethrivecenter.org.
    • Follow us on Instagram @thrivecenter
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    About Dr. Pam King

    Dr. Pam King is Executive Director the Thrive Center and is Peter L. Benson Professor of Applied Developmental Science at Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy. Follow her @drpamking.

    About With & For

    • Host: Pam King
    • Senior Director and Producer: Jill Westbrook
    • Operations Manager: Lauren Kim
    • Social Media Graphic Designer: Wren Juergensen

    Special thanks to the team at Fuller Studio and the Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy.


    The Science of Relationships: Healing, Emotion, & Connection with Drs. Sue Johnson & Jim Furrow Feb 05, 2024
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    We need each other. We are relational beings, and our thriving—or languishing—often hinges on relationships. In this episode, psychologists Sue Johnson and Jim Furrow not only explain why relationships are so important, they offer practical advice on how to pursue healing, emotional regulation, and lasting thriving in all kinds of relationships.

    Sue Johnson is the creator of Emotionally Focused Therapy, the gold standard in tested, proven interventions of couples and author of many books including Hold Me Tight: Seven Conversations for a Lifetime of Love. Jim Furrow is a marriage and family therapist and an internationally renowned trainer of Emotionally Focused Therapy.

    This conversation goes from profound to practical, covering the biological and psychological science to explain why belonging gives way to becoming. We discuss the rampant emptiness and loneliness, fear, and depression people today experience and the connection between relationships and a sense of meaning in life. Sue and Jim also provide a framework for how to understand your attachment style and the way it impacts your relational health. And they discuss the practical ways we can grow and change so that we can engage in and sustain fulfilling and life giving relationships.

    In this conversation with Sue Johnson & Jim Furrow, we discuss:

    • What it means to be fully alive, in all the existential fullness that being human means
    • How to bring together the spectrum of emotional realities with our lived experience
    • The crisis of loneliness we face today, and what we can do about it
    • The role of empathy and caring in the healing process
    • An introduction to attachment science, the role of attachment figures in thriving relationships
    • And the therapeutic and relational practices that lead to security, a sense of worth, empowerment, and competence in life.

    About Sue Johnson & Jim Furrow

    Sue Johnson is the creator of Emotionally Focused Therapy and author of many books including Hold Me Tight: Seven Conversations for a Lifetime of Love. Jim Furrow is a marriage and family therapist and an internationally renowned trainer of Emotionally Focused Therapy.


    About the Thrive Center

    • Learn more at thethrivecenter.org.
    • Follow us on Instagram @thrivecenter
    • Follow us on X @thrivecenter
    • Follow us on LinkedIn @thethrivecenter

    About Dr. Pam King

    Dr. Pam King is Executive Director the Thrive Center and is Peter L. Benson Professor of Applied Developmental Science at Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy. Follow her @drpamking.

    About With & For

    • Host: Pam King
    • Senior Director and Producer: Jill Westbrook
    • Operations Manager: Lauren Kim
    • Social Media Graphic Designer: Wren Juergensen

    Special thanks to the team at Fuller Studio and the Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy.


    How to Navigate Life: Psychological Tools to Find Your Purpose with Dr. Belle Liang Jan 29, 2024
    Show notes

    Do you know your purpose? How do you understand your own life story?

    The science of purpose demonstrates powerful benefits across mental health, physical health, longevity, career fulfillment, and relationships. However, this vital sense of meaning can often feel elusive.

    Purpose is defined as an actionable and enduring goal that is meaningful to oneself and contributes to the world beyond oneself. This kind of purpose is crucial to spiritual health because it integrates our beliefs, values, and sense of ultimacy into action.

    In this episode, Dr. Belle Liang (Boston College, author of How to Navigate Life: The New Science of Finding Your Way in School, Career, and Beyond) provides research-backed, practical guidance on how to identify and pursue purpose.

    Dr. Liang identifies four essential elements of purpose that must be aligned:

    1. Character Strengths: Your inherent positive qualities.

    2. Skills and Expertise: The abilities you have cultivated.

    3. Deeply Held Values: The principles that guide your life.

    4. A Sense of Contribution to the World: How your efforts benefit others.

    Dr. Liang guides listeners through a real-time, practical exercise to help align these elements, ensuring that purpose becomes less an "ephemeral object" and more a concrete tool for navigating the journey of life and cultivating thriving.

    In this conversation with Belle Liang, we discuss:

    • How family history shapes us as individuals
    • The importance of differentiation and emerging from early family dependency into a healthy sense of oneself as an individual
    • The role of faith, spirituality, and community in our understanding of purpose
    • A psychological definition of purpose as using strengths and skills and values to make a positive impact on the world
    • And the practical elements of finding and living your purpose as an individual, with Belle guiding us through a practice of reflecting on our past and finding our purpose

    About Belle Liang
    Dr. Belle Liang is a professor of Counseling, Developmental, & Educational Psychology at the Lynch School of Education and Human Development at Boston College. As the founder and Principal Investigator of Purpose Lab, she is committed to advancing understanding of positive youth development, including mentoring and relational health, through her research. Her expertise in purpose interventions, including those that are technologically mediated, is reflected in her current work leading the development of True North, a curriculum and web-based application aimed at helping individuals and organizations cultivate purpose with data analytics.

    With over 100 publications, Dr. Liang is recognized as a knowledgeable speaker and collaborator in the field of positive youth development. She is grateful for the opportunities she has had to contribute to the field and to translate research into practical application, as demonstrated by her recent co-authorship of the bestselling How to Navigate Life: The New Science of Finding Your Way in School, Career, & Beyond, published by St. Martin’s Press.

    About the Thrive Center

    • Learn more at thethrivecenter.org.
    • Follow us on Instagram @thrivecenter
    • Follow us on X @thrivecenter
    • Follow us on LinkedIn @thethrivecenter

    About Dr. Pam King

    Dr. Pam King is Executive Director the Thrive Center and is Peter L. Benson Professor of Applied Developmental Science at Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy. Follow her @drpamking.

    About With & For

    • Host: Pam King
    • Senior Director and Producer: Jill Westbrook
    • Operations Manager: Lauren Kim
    • Social Media Graphic Designer: Wren Juergensen

    Special thanks to the team at Fuller Studio and the Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy.


    Cultivating a Healthy Mind: The Neuroscience of Awareness, Connection, Insight, & Purpose with Dr. Richie Davidson Jan 22, 2024
    Show notes

    Dr. Richie Davidson’s research has revolutionized the way we understand the brain and how plastic and malleable or changeable the brain is. Just like we train our physical bodies and go to the gym, he and his team at the Center for Healthy Minds have shown that we need to train our brains and work them out as well.

    As a result, he is changing the way we understand well being—to think of it as a skill—something we do and practice as active agents of our own well being.

    His research can give us a whole new appreciation of Christian contemplative practices or disciplines. Although we can't control all that happens around us or to us, we do have some control on how we respond, merging helpful insight with concrete practices that make a difference for our minds, so that we can become more regulated, peaceful, receptive, open, and even more trusting.

    In this bountiful conversation with Richie Davidson, we discuss:

    • Two kinds of learning—declarative and procedural—that need to be integrated in order to cultivate mental and spiritual health
    • The four pillars of a healthy mind: awareness, connection, insight, and purpose
    • How to cultivate a mindset for healthy relational connection
    • How to understand the stories we tell ourselves about ourselves and how this impacts our well-being and spiritual health
    • The over-emphasis (even approaching hype) on mindfulness that seems to be present in our culture
    • What a healthy approach to meditation might be in our spiritual lives
    • The science and spirituality of love and compassion

    About Richie Davidson

    Dr. Richie Davidson is a pioneer in contemplative neuroscience, and does cutting edge research on the neuro-correlates of emotion and meditation. He's also the founder of the Center for Healthy Minds at the University of Wisconsin Madison, where he's the William James Professor of Psychology and Psychiatry.


    About the Thrive Center

    • Learn more at thethrivecenter.org.
    • Follow us on Instagram @thrivecenter
    • Follow us on X @thrivecenter
    • Follow us on LinkedIn @thethrivecenter

    About Dr. Pam King

    Dr. Pam King is Executive Director the Thrive Center and is Peter L. Benson Professor of Applied Developmental Science at Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy. Follow her @drpamking.

    About With & For

    • Host: Pam King
    • Senior Director and Producer: Jill Westbrook
    • Operations Manager: Lauren Kim
    • Social Media Graphic Designer: Wren Juergensen

    Special thanks to the team at Fuller Studio and the Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy.


    Rhythms of Work and Rest: Leadership and Self-Care After Trauma and Burnout with Dr. Alexis Abernethy Jan 15, 2024
    Show notes

    Coming from decades of research, clinical work, and practice in the field, Dr. Alexis Abernethy cuts through theory and ideals, addressing the complex realities of life: loss, trauma, systemic racism, the grinding and wearing away from the stresses of everyday life, and the pressure to lead in the face of unsolvable suffering and need.

    Alexis keeps spiritual health real and accessible, addressing research-backed principles on sleep, concentration, irritation, relationships, and burnout.

    Absolutely essential to spiritual health and thriving in our chaotic and frenetic days, Alexis describes rhythms that we can internalize before we get to those soft symptoms or signs of stress.


    In this conversation, we discuss:

    • Her research and therapeutic work with traumatized pastors after Hurricane Katrina, emphasizing the necessity of self-care for the caregivers.
    • How to identify the symptoms of burnout and how to respond.
    • The Christian practice of Sabbath rest, worship, and singing, which Alexis personally experiences as a source of healing and restoration.

    Pam’s Key Takeaways

    • Catastrophes don't hit us all the same. We all weather life storms in different ways. It's when we find healing and restoration in community that we can integrate personal, relational, and political thriving.
    • Limitations can be our friends. Irritation, lack of concentration, fatigue are all signposts to the need for self care.
    • Burnout is complex, often involves a shift in our context, making our environment or job not a good fit for who we are.
    • To quote Bessel van der Kolk, our bodies keep the score. Burnout and psychological stress are often manifested with psychosomatic symptoms.
    • We need to be aware of our relationship to time and how our trust and faith come into play when it comes to rest.
    • I need more microdoses of rest and perhaps macrodoses of sleep.
    • We thrive when our vocation lines up with our work. but we need to address our culture's workaholism by talking more about strategies for rest that contribute to spiritual health.

    About Alexis Abernethy

    Alexis Abernathy is a clinical psychologist and professor of psychology in the Fuller School of Psychology, where for over 25 years she has served as Chaplain to the Faculty, Chief of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, and her current role as Chief Academic Officer at Fuller Theological Seminary. She graduated from Howard University with a BS in psychology. She received her MA and PhD from the University of California, Berkeley. Her primary research interest is the intersection between spirituality and health and her Spirituality and Health Lab includes three research teams: Experience of Spirituality and Health-Related Outcomes; Spirituality, Cancer, and Health Disparities; and Spirituality, Culture, and Eating Disturbance. She is author of many journal articles in psychology of religion, as well as Worship That Changes Lives: Multidisciplinary and Congregational Perspectives on Spiritual Transformation (2008). For more information, visit her faculty profile.


    About the Thrive Center

    • Learn more at thethrivecenter.org.
    • Follow us on Instagram @thrivecenter
    • Follow us on X @thrivecenter
    • Follow us on LinkedIn @thethrivecenter

    About Dr. Pam King

    Dr. Pam King is Executive Director the Thrive Center and is Peter L. Benson Professor of Applied Developmental Science at Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy. Follow her @drpamking.

    About With & For

    • Host: Pam King
    • Senior Director and Producer: Jill Westbrook
    • Operations Manager: Lauren Kim
    • Social Media Graphic Designer: Wren Juergensen

    Special thanks to the team at Fuller Studio and the Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy.


    Loved, Held, Guided, and Never Alone: The Science of Spirituality with Dr. Lisa Miller Jan 05, 2024
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    What does science have to say about spirituality?

    Dr. Lisa Miller, clinical psychologist and researcher, has made the case through years of research collaborations that spirituality is a birthright to the human species. In her best selling book, The Awakened Brain, she notes the glorious complexity of the human spiritual brain, revealing an innate capacity for transcendence. But she's not content to stop at these psychological capacities. She wants to help people with practical, tangible, evidence backed interventions that lead to their thriving and spiritual health. Lisa not only gives words, but explains scientifically why spirituality is so transformative.

    In this conversation with Lisa Miller, we discuss:

    • The neuroscience of spirituality
    • Guided meditative practices to fortify spiritual health and a sense of love, purpose, and possibility
    • How paying attention to our inner mental and spiritual life builds awareness and resilience
    • Research findings from the science of spirituality that we're wired for transcendence
    • How transcendent love fortifies our brain in ways that buffer against depression and anxiety
    • How human connection and spiritual guides are vital for a healthy life and even a thriving democracy
    • And we explore all of these experientially, working through the ideas with practical exercises to increase our awareness

    About Lisa Miller

    Dr. Lisa Miller is bestselling author of The Spiritual Child and The Awakened Brain, and researcher and professor in clinical psychology at the Teachers College of Columbia University. Learn more on her website.

    About Dr. Pam King

    Dr. Pam King is Executive Director the Thrive Center and is Peter L. Benson Professor of Applied Developmental Science at Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy. Follow her @drpamking.

    About the Thrive Center

    • Learn more at thethrivecenter.org.
    • Follow us on Instagram @thrivecenter
    • Follow us on X @thrivecenter
    • Follow us on LinkedIn @thethrivecenter

    About Dr. Pam King

    Dr. Pam King is Executive Director the Thrive Center and is Peter L. Benson Professor of Applied Developmental Science at Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy. Follow her @drpamking.

    About With & For

    • Host: Pam King
    • Senior Director and Producer: Jill Westbrook
    • Operations Manager: Lauren Kim
    • Social Media Graphic Designer: Wren Juergensen

    Special thanks to the team at Fuller Studio and the Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy.


    A New Podcast on Spiritual Health, Wholeness, and a Life of Thriving Dec 15, 2023
    Show notes

    With & For is a new podcast exploring psychology, spirituality, and culture, with the aim of helping you grow wholly alive, with and for others, and a higher purpose. In this introductory episode, podcast host Dr. Pam King shares elements of her personal story and background, along with the goals of the podcast, and let's this season's guests share their personal take on what it means to thrive.

    With & For is hosted by Dr. Pam King—the Executive Director the Thrive Center and Peter L. Benson Professor of Applied Developmental Science at Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy.

    Show Notes

    • Dr. Pam King introduces the show. Drawing on twenty years as a psychologist, pastor, and parent, her mission is to help people thrive.
    • Our approach to spiritual health is informed by years of psychological research that provides empirical insight into how aspects of spirituality can be helpful for thriving.
    • What is thriving?
    • "Thriving is growing wholly alive with and for others and a higher purpose."
    • "By pursuing spiritual health, we become equipped with the skills that we need for resilience in hard times, and also for pursuing purpose and meaning and connection throughout it all, given that we all thrive differently."
    • Season 1 guests share their responses to one of Pam's favorite questions, "What is thriving to you?"


    About the Thrive Center

    • Learn more at thethrivecenter.org.
    • Follow us on Instagram @thrivecenter
    • Follow us on X @thrivecenter
    • Follow us on LinkedIn @thethrivecenter

    About Dr. Pam King

    Dr. Pam King is Executive Director the Thrive Center and is Peter L. Benson Professor of Applied Developmental Science at Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy. Follow her @drpamking.

    About With & For

    • Host: Pam King
    • Senior Director and Producer: Jill Westbrook
    • Operations Manager: Lauren Kim
    • Social Media Graphic Designer: Wren Juergensen

    Special thanks to the team at Fuller Studio and the Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy.


    Our Spiritual Brains: The Science of Our Innate Spirituality - Lisa Miller Nov 20, 2023
    Show notes

    "Every single one of us is born with natural spirituality."

    This preview clip features With & For guest Dr. Lisa Miller—bestselling author of The Spiritual Child and The Awakened Brain, and researcher and professor in clinical psychology at the Teachers College of Columbia University.

    Lisa shares about her findings in the science of spirituality; our innate capacities to perceive, to feel, and to know a transcendent relationship; and the amazing role of the human brain in seeking out this transcendence beyond ourselves.

    Show Notes

    • Don't forget to subscribe to With & For, which is launching in January 2024.
    • Happy Thanksgiving from Dr. Pam King and The Thrive Center!
    • How gratitude and positive emotion enlarge our capacity for joyful transcendence and activate our innate spirituality
    • Pam King introduces Dr. Lisa Miller—bestselling author of The Spiritual Child and The Awakened Brain, and researcher and professor in clinical psychology at the Teachers College of Columbia University.
    • "Every single one of us is born with natural spirituality."
    • "This capacity to perceive and feel and know a transcendent relationship is one third innate. We are all born with the wiring, but two thirds environmentally formed gives way to a tremendous impact of our environment."
    • "Although this is our birthright, it must be cultivated, and it is an opportunity of our lifetimes to do that."
    • "We invited 18 through 25 year olds to come in and tell us about a time where you felt a deep personal connection to God. ... The same neural correlates ran in every single person."
    • Credits

    About Lisa Miller

    Dr. Lisa Miller is bestselling author of The Spiritual Child and The Awakened Brain, and researcher and professor in clinical psychology at the Teachers College of Columbia University. Learn more on her website.

    About Dr. Pam King

    Dr. Pam King is Executive Director the Thrive Center and is Peter L. Benson Professor of Applied Developmental Science at Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy. Follow her @drpamking.

    About With & For

    Host: Pam King
    Senior Director and Producer: Jill Westbrook
    Operations Manager: Lauren Kim
    Social Media Graphic Designer: Wren Juergensen
    Consulting Producer: Evan Rosa

    Special thanks to the team at Fuller Studio and the Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy.


    About the Thrive Center

    • Learn more at thethrivecenter.org.
    • Follow us on Instagram @thrivecenter
    • Follow us on X @thrivecenter
    • Follow us on LinkedIn @thethrivecenter

    About Dr. Pam King

    Dr. Pam King is Executive Director the Thrive Center and is Peter L. Benson Professor of Applied Developmental Science at Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy. Follow her @drpamking.

    About With & For

    • Host: Pam King
    • Senior Director and Producer: Jill Westbrook
    • Operations Manager: Lauren Kim
    • Social Media Graphic Designer: Wren Juergensen

    Special thanks to the team at Fuller Studio and the Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy.


    What Makes a Healthy Mind? Awareness, Connection, Insight, and Purpose - Richie Davidson Nov 06, 2023
    Show notes

    With & For is launching in January 2024! Subscribe now in your favorite podcast app. In this preview clip, With & For guest Dr. Richie Davidson—a pioneer in contemplative neuroscience—shares how his research on the neuroscience of emotion and meditation has led him to identify four pillars of well-being and human flourishing.

    Show Notes

    • Don't forget to subscribe to With & For, which is launching in January 2024.
    • Pam King introduces Dr. Richie Davidson, the William James Professor of Psychology and Psychiatry and founder of the Center for Healthy Minds at the University of Wisconsin Madison.
    • Pillar 1: Awareness
    • Pillar 2: Connection
    • Pillar 3: Insight
    • Pillar 4: Purpose

    About Richie Davidson

    Dr. Richie Davidson is a pioneer in contemplative neuroscience, and does cutting edge research on the neuro-correlates of emotion and meditation. He's also the founder of the Center for Healthy Minds at the University of Wisconsin Madison, where he's the William James Professor of Psychology and Psychiatry.

    About Dr. Pam King

    Dr. Pam King is Executive Director the Thrive Center and is Peter L. Benson Professor of Applied Developmental Science at Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy. Follow her @drpamking.

    About With & For

    Host: Pam King
    Senior Director and Producer: Jill Westbrook
    Operations Manager: Lauren Kim
    Social Media Graphic Designer: Wren Juergensen
    Consulting Producer: Evan Rosa

    Special thanks to the team at Fuller Studio and the Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy.


    About the Thrive Center

    • Learn more at thethrivecenter.org.
    • Follow us on Instagram @thrivecenter
    • Follow us on X @thrivecenter
    • Follow us on LinkedIn @thethrivecenter

    About Dr. Pam King

    Dr. Pam King is Executive Director the Thrive Center and is Peter L. Benson Professor of Applied Developmental Science at Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy. Follow her @drpamking.

    About With & For

    • Host: Pam King
    • Senior Director and Producer: Jill Westbrook
    • Operations Manager: Lauren Kim
    • Social Media Graphic Designer: Wren Juergensen

    Special thanks to the team at Fuller Studio and the Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy.


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