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    With and For hosted by Dr. Pam King

    With & For bridges psychology and spiritual wisdom to help you thrive. Hosted by developmental psychologist and ordained minister Dr. Pam King.

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    A Practice: Dr. Richard Davidson on Gaining Insight May 27, 2024
    Show notes
    • Find posture, check in with your body, and take several deep, calming breaths.
    • Be intentional about your motivation and find a place in us to understand that practices to cultivate our own wellbeing can also help others.
    • This is a radical act of generosity
    • Bring into your mind a situation that has been challenging in some way in the recent past - whether work, family, etc.. not too difficult, but something challenging. Identify what it is.
    • Reflect on your own beliefs and expectations about that situation. What beliefs and expectations are we bringing to that situation?
    • Envision how things might be different if we came to the situation with a different set of beliefs and expectations.
    • Would it be different with the different beliefs and expectations?
    • End practice by dedicating whatever insight we may have gleaned to the benefit of others.

    Listen to the Full Episode - S1: E3 Cultivating a Healthy Mind: The Neuroscience of Awareness, Connection, Insight, & Purpose with Dr. Richie Davidson. Here Dr. Davidson guides you in a practice to gain insight into your life.


    About the Thrive Center

    • Learn more at thethrivecenter.org.
    • Follow us on Instagram @thrivecenter
    • Follow us on X @thrivecenter
    • Follow us on LinkedIn @thethrivecenter

    About Dr. Pam King

    Dr. Pam King is Executive Director the Thrive Center and is Peter L. Benson Professor of Applied Developmental Science at Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy. Follow her @drpamking.

    About With & For

    • Host: Pam King
    • Senior Director and Producer: Jill Westbrook
    • Operations Manager: Lauren Kim
    • Social Media Graphic Designer: Wren Juergensen

    Special thanks to the team at Fuller Studio and the Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy.


    A Practice: Dr. Lisa Miller and Your Table of Spiritual Companions May 20, 2024
    Show notes
    • Close your eyes and take 5 deep breaths.
    • In your minds eye - set a table before you.
    • You may invite anyone living or deceased who truly has your best interest in mind.
    • Ask them if they love you.
    • Invite your higher self - true eternal higher self - ask you if you love you.
    • Ask you higher power if they love you.
    • With all at your table sitting there - what do they need to tell you now?
    • This is your counsel - they are always there for you.

    Listen to the full episode - S1:E1 Loved, Held, Guided, and Never Alone: The Science of Spirituality with Dr. Lisa Miller. Here Dr. Miller guides you in a practice where you use your imagination to call up the people in your life who have loved you.


    About the Thrive Center

    • Learn more at thethrivecenter.org.
    • Follow us on Instagram @thrivecenter
    • Follow us on X @thrivecenter
    • Follow us on LinkedIn @thethrivecenter

    About Dr. Pam King

    Dr. Pam King is Executive Director the Thrive Center and is Peter L. Benson Professor of Applied Developmental Science at Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy. Follow her @drpamking.

    About With & For

    • Host: Pam King
    • Senior Director and Producer: Jill Westbrook
    • Operations Manager: Lauren Kim
    • Social Media Graphic Designer: Wren Juergensen

    Special thanks to the team at Fuller Studio and the Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy.


    A Practice: Dr. Cynthia Eriksson on Grounding in the Body May 13, 2024
    Show notes
    • Practice modified from Resmaa Menakem, My Grandmother's Hands: Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and Bodies
    • Begin with breathing into the nose and out through the mouth
    • Notice the space you are in - turning to the left and looking behind you, then turning to the right to see behind you. Feel the stretch.
    • Take in the space. Notice where the wall meets the ceiling. Notice the dark and light and colors in the room. Name them to yourself.
    • Take 3 deep breaths, noticing where the air moves in and out of the body.

    Listen to the full episode - S1:E9 Responding to Trauma: Psychological Tools for Resilience and Recovery with Dr. Cynthia Eriksson. Here Dr. Eriksson guides you through a practice to ground you in your body in order to settle emotions.


    About the Thrive Center

    • Learn more at thethrivecenter.org.
    • Follow us on Instagram @thrivecenter
    • Follow us on X @thrivecenter
    • Follow us on LinkedIn @thethrivecenter

    About Dr. Pam King

    Dr. Pam King is Executive Director the Thrive Center and is Peter L. Benson Professor of Applied Developmental Science at Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy. Follow her @drpamking.

    About With & For

    • Host: Pam King
    • Senior Director and Producer: Jill Westbrook
    • Operations Manager: Lauren Kim
    • Social Media Graphic Designer: Wren Juergensen

    Special thanks to the team at Fuller Studio and the Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy.


    A Practice: Dr. Richard Davidson on Developing Awareness May 06, 2024
    Show notes
    • We reflect on our motivation for doing the practice.
    • We attempt to frame the practice from the idea that practicing is altruistic - helping ourselves and others.
    • Bring into your mind and heart someone you know and love.
    • Consider their difficulties. As we breathe in, we practice removing their difficulties, and as we breathe out, we extend our love and our wishes for that person to be happy and free of suffering.
    • Dedicate the practice - any insight or benefit to the wellbeing and welfare of others.
    • Reflect on how a simple practice like this in our lives can be cultivated for the benefit of others.


    Listen to the full episode. S1: E3 Cultivating a Healthy Mind: The Neuroscience of Awareness, Connection, Insight, & Purpose with Dr. Richie Davidson. Here Dr. Davidson guides you through an awareness practice.


    About the Thrive Center

    • Learn more at thethrivecenter.org.
    • Follow us on Instagram @thrivecenter
    • Follow us on X @thrivecenter
    • Follow us on LinkedIn @thethrivecenter

    About Dr. Pam King

    Dr. Pam King is Executive Director the Thrive Center and is Peter L. Benson Professor of Applied Developmental Science at Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy. Follow her @drpamking.

    About With & For

    • Host: Pam King
    • Senior Director and Producer: Jill Westbrook
    • Operations Manager: Lauren Kim
    • Social Media Graphic Designer: Wren Juergensen

    Special thanks to the team at Fuller Studio and the Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy.


    The Big Picture on Thriving & Spiritual Health — Season One Wrap Up with Dr. Pam King & Dr. Jill Westbrook Apr 01, 2024
    Show notes

    Show Notes

    • Why podcast about thriving and spiritual health?
    • Pam’s deep desire for people to thrive and become who they’re meant to be, with and for others
    • Practical and applicable insights for personal growth and well-being.
    • Bringing in experts from different research methods, spiritual traditions, and cultural backgrounds
    • Richie Davidson on declarative and procedural learning
    • Dan Siegel on integration
    • Growing through the throes of difficulties
    • Cultivating virtues and deepening relationships
    • Pam’s personal experience halfway through the season: caring for a child with a medical emergency
    • What helped Pam through the recent trauma?
    • When under threat, we go to what’s automatic
    • 5 x 7 breathing
    • “Her crisis was exacerbated by the fact that her coping skill was not possible.”
    • “My holding her hand was very calming for her.”
    • Cynthia Eriksson on trauma and activating the parasympathetic nervous system for
    • Alexis Abernethy on self-care, rest, and rhythms
    • “Coming home to my body… listening to my body… aware of the natural rhythms of my body… trusting our bodies more.
    • Feeling Alone
    • Pam King’s deeply relational theology
    • Becoming is linked to our belonging and connection with others?
    • Shared and validated by another
    • Pam King’s co-authored book, The Reciprocating Self
    • Dan Siegel’s approach to “intraconnection” and research about attunement and awareness of others.
    • Alexia Salvatierra: “If you’re community is not well, then you are not well.”
    • Richie Davison on neuroplasticity: we have agency in our life changing and growing
    • Engaging in psychological or spiritual practices to expand our attention, deepen compassion, gain more insight into our values, and identify our purpose.
    • Find the Center for Healthy Minds Innovations App (FREE)
    • Purpose and Life Review with Bill Damon
    • Belle Liang on telling a story and finding your purpose through your own life narrative and “letting your life speak”
    • Sarah Schnitker and t he virtue of patience as a relevant and timely approach to life today
    • Miroslav Volf on joy and sorrow in the context of Christian faith and redemption
    • Hope for God’s presence amidst the sorrow
    • Psychology of belief
    • Theology is not just the study of God, but the knowledge and love of God, and seeking the kingdom
    • Life unencumbered and free
    • The Black experience and longing for living and dreaming unencumbered
    • Thriving involves systems of access and justice
    • “True human thriving contributes to a flourishing world. And our world will not be flourishing until all people live unencumbered.”
    • Dwight Radcliff on hip-hop theology and an embodied response
    • “Art engages us at the sensory level.“
    • Susan David on emotions as signposts
    • Art and beauty
    • Three tips for thriving based on Season 1 of With & For
      1. Lean into love for yourself—finding compassion and grace for yourself
      2. Find love in your relationships, co-creating meaning and purpose
      3. Lean into love in the narrative of your life and your place and purpose in your community and the larger, bigger story of the world
    • “Beyond-the-self” purpose as a central podcast value


    About the Thrive Center

    • Learn more at thethrivecenter.org.
    • Follow us on Instagram @thrivecenter
    • Follow us on X @thrivecenter
    • Follow us on LinkedIn @thethrivecenter

    About Dr. Pam King

    Dr. Pam King is Executive Director the Thrive Center and is Peter L. Benson Professor of Applied Developmental Science at Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy. Follow her @drpamking.

    About With & For

    • Host: Pam King
    • Senior Director and Producer: Jill Westbrook
    • Operations Manager: Lauren Kim
    • Social Media Graphic Designer: Wren Juergensen

    Special thanks to the team at Fuller Studio and the Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy.


    The Power of Patience: How to Wait Well, Persevere Through Suffering, and Navigate a Fast-Paced World with Dr. Sarah Schnitker Mar 25, 2024
    Show notes

    We live in a high-speed, high-efficiency, get-it-done-yesterday society. Why would we talk about patience? But the old adage, “Patience is a virtue” is true. A core ingredient to our spiritual health in our frenetic modern world is the ability to live fully in the moment, exercise control and stability through arduous or challenging (and even traumatic) circumstances—doing so with poise and style.

    Research psychologist Dr. Sarah Schnitker of Baylor University has pioneered the scientific study of patience among the virtues, exploring the physical, emotional, spiritual, and philosophical dimensions of this timeless and timely virtue. She defines patience as the ability to remain calm in the face of adversity and suffering—being able to wait well and not become inordinately overwhelmed by anxiety or sorrow.

    Patience makes us ask not just “What’s worth waiting for?”, but “What’s worth suffering for?” Our English word for suffering comes from the Latin word for “enduring suffering.” And Sarah Schnitker brings theologically rich dimensions to her psychological study of patience.

    In this conversation with Sarah Schnitker, we discuss:

    • The definition of patience as a virtue
    • The essential role patience can play in our pursuit of meaning and purpose
    • The connections between waiting and suffering—and the theological and spiritual context for patience
    • How patience is related to goal-setting and complementary to courage
    • And Sarah offers guidance for how to cultivate patience in our own lives, using a research-backed strategy to identify, imagine, and think.

    About Sarah Schnitker

    Sarah Schnitker is Associate Professor of Psychology and Neuroscience at Baylor University. She holds a PhD and an MA in Personality and Social Psychology from the University of California, Davis, and a BA in Psychology from Grove City College. Schnitker studies virtue and character development in adolescents and emerging adults, with a focus on the role of spirituality and religion in virtue formation. She specializes in the study of patience, self-control, gratitude, generosity, and thrift. Schnitker has procured more than $3.5 million in funding as a principle investigator on multiple research grants, and she has published in a variety of scientific journals and edited volumes. Schnitker is a Member-at-Large for APA Division 36 – Society for the Psychology of Religion and Spirituality, is a Consulting Editor for the organization’s flagship journal, Psychology of Religion and Spirituality, and is the recipient of the Virginia Sexton American Psychological Association’s Division 36 Mentoring Award. Follow her on Twitter @DrSchnitker.


    About the Thrive Center

    • Learn more at thethrivecenter.org.
    • Follow us on Instagram @thrivecenter
    • Follow us on X @thrivecenter
    • Follow us on LinkedIn @thethrivecenter

    About Dr. Pam King

    Dr. Pam King is Executive Director the Thrive Center and is Peter L. Benson Professor of Applied Developmental Science at Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy. Follow her @drpamking.

    About With & For

    • Host: Pam King
    • Senior Director and Producer: Jill Westbrook
    • Operations Manager: Lauren Kim
    • Social Media Graphic Designer: Wren Juergensen

    Special thanks to the team at Fuller Studio and the Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy.


    Redeeming the Past: Owning Your Story, Cultivating Courage, and Finding Peace with Dr. William Damon Mar 18, 2024
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    Developmental Psychologist William Damon, who has spent decades at Stanford University's Center on Adolescence, has focused his career on studying the human lifespan, growth, and thriving. His latest work introduces the concept of the Life Review as a tool for personal discovery and peace.

    Dr. Damon's research systematically studies purpose and its operationalization for human thriving.

    • Purpose Defined: An enduring life goal that is both meaningful to oneself but also makes a difference beyond the self.

    • Key Characteristics of Purpose:

      • Enduring and long-term.

      • Personal, meaningful, and provides Agency and energy.

      • Transcendent (beyond the self).

      • Is a "lifespan developmental capacity" that is "never really complete."

    • A Caution: "Purpose is not a silver bullet." It does not replace a moral code or guarantee happiness.

    • Thriving Defined: "Becoming the person you always dreamed you’d become."

    Damon's latest book, A Round of Golf with My Father, introduces the life review process. This work was motivated by his own experience uncovering a big mystery: "Who is my father?"

    • What is a Life Review? A systematic way of looking into your past and history to uncover mysteries and understand who you’ve been, and what that means for your present and future (drawing on the work of Robert Butler).

    • Forward-Looking Approach: The process acknowledges that "The past is not dead. It’s not even the past" (William Faulkner), and helps reframe and redeem past emotions (regret, guilt, shame) for the present.

    • The Process: It involves "Making a case study of yourself" and addressing difficult emotions by moving "From blaming to claiming to gaming."

    The path to self-understanding and purpose is driven by emotional connections between courage and curiosity.

    • Courage is Essential: Cultivating courage is an essential virtue for a thriving life, particularly when confronting difficult or traumatic aspects of our past. Small steps make a big difference in overcoming challenges and leveraging purpose. (See also: Aristotle on courage).

    • Positive Youth Development (PYD): Damon's work highlights the opportunities of youth by focusing on strengths and assets rather than flaws. As Peter Benson stated, "Everyone young person has a spark."

    • Scope of Purpose: Purpose extends beyond personal motivations to include a wide range of psychological, moral, relational, historical, and spiritual factors. "Purpose is not an elite endeavor."

    About the Thrive Center

    Learn more at ⁠thethrivecenter.org⁠.

    Follow us on ⁠Instagram @thrivecenter⁠

    Follow us on ⁠X @thrivecenter⁠

    Follow us on ⁠LinkedIn @thethrivecenter⁠

    About Dr. Pam King

    Dr. Pam King is Executive Director the Thrive Center and is Peter L. Benson Professor of Applied Developmental Science at Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy. Follow her ⁠@drpamking⁠.

    About With & For

    Host: Pam King

    Senior Director and Producer: Jill Westbrook

    Operations Manager: Lauren Kim

    Social Media Graphic Designer: Wren Juergensen

    Special thanks to the team at Fuller Studio and the Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy.


    Dreaming Together: Dealing with Conflict, Finding Belonging, and Doing Justice with Rev. Dr. Alexia Salvatierra Mar 11, 2024
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    Wellbeing begins with we. “If your community is not well, then you are not well.” Thriving is collective. But our atomic individualism and narrow focus on ourselves is constantly pulling us away from the mutual belonging, reciprocity, and vibrant flourishing that can only be found by seeking the good of the wider human community—the neighbor, the stranger, the migrant, the farm worker, and the poor.

    Rev. Dr. Alexia Salvatierra is a scholar, organizer, activist, and pastor, and is Academic Dean of the Centro Latino as well as the Assistant Professor of Integral Mission and Global Transformation at Fuller Theological Seminary.

    She offers a healing message for those who wrestle with the pain and suffering caused by structural and systemic injustice, calling for listening, empathy, and action. Alexia’s faith is rooted in community and kinship. She affirms the wisdom of the body and cautions against over-intellectualization, offering instead a larger emotional vocabulary, emotional attunement, and the ability to hold and live with complex feelings.

    The power of community is on display in our ability to celebrate and suffer together. And in Alexia’s work as an activist, she shows how fractured communities can reconcile through the power of a shared dream.

    In this conversation with Alexia Salvatierra, we discuss:

    • The unique wisdom that Latin- a/o culture brings to spiritual and theological conversations about thriving and spiritual health
    • The complex, communal, and collective nature of thriving
    • How her theology as a Lutheran pastor was formed by compassion and concern for the poor
    • The challenge of Western Christians to see beyond individualistic rationality and the atomic unit of the self when thinking about wellness and thriving
    • The transformative potential of a common dream to unify and reconcile
    • The power of beautiful stories that are deeply connected to truth and goodness
    • Seeing relationships as not just an end goal of thriving, but a means to thriving.

    About Rev. Dr. Alexia Salvatierra

    Rev. Dr. Alexia Salvatierra is the Academic Dean of the Centro Latino at Fuller Theological Seminary, as well as the Assistant Professor of Integral Mission and Global Transformation. Her work is a beautiful mosaic of immigration reform, faith-rooted organizing, cross-cultural ministry, and building vital holistic Christian community. Throughout her career, she’s played a central role in founding and convening communities for social justice, including the New Sanctuary Movement, the Guardian angels Project. Matteo 25 a bipartisan Christian network to protect and defend families facing deportation, the Evangelical Immigration Table, and the Ecumenical Collaboration for Asylum-Seekers. She is co-author of God's Resistance: Mobilizing Faith to Defend Immigrants and Buried Seeds: Learning from the Vibrant Resiliency of Marginalized Christian Communities.


    About the Thrive Center

    • Learn more at thethrivecenter.org.
    • Follow us on Instagram @thrivecenter
    • Follow us on X @thrivecenter
    • Follow us on LinkedIn @thethrivecenter

    About Dr. Pam King

    Dr. Pam King is Executive Director the Thrive Center and is Peter L. Benson Professor of Applied Developmental Science at Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy. Follow her @drpamking.

    About With & For

    • Host: Pam King
    • Senior Director and Producer: Jill Westbrook
    • Operations Manager: Lauren Kim
    • Social Media Graphic Designer: Wren Juergensen

    Special thanks to the team at Fuller Studio and the Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy.


    Responding to Trauma: Psychological Tools for Resilience and Recovery with Dr. Cynthia Eriksson Mar 04, 2024
    Show notes

    Note: This episode contains content about trauma. Listener discretion is advised.

    The path toward hope and healing is often charted through pain, suffering, loss, and grief.

    Coming from two decades spent studying post-traumatic stress disorder, researcher and clinical psychologist Dr. Cynthia Eriksson Cynthia has worked with individuals and communities in the wake of major tragedy. Her psychological and spiritual perspectives emerge from first hand experience with Cambodian children exposed to the atrocities of war, Ugandan refugees, Haitian victims of earthquake catastrophe and infrastructure collapse, or at home in Pasadena tending to frontline workers who are often left burned out and traumatized from relief work.

    Cynthia Eriksson discusses how to pursue resilience and recovery by reflecting on the role of faith and spirituality; habits and rhythms of life; and relationships and community.

    Both resilience and thriving recognize the complexities of life, and both affirm and require the actualization of human agency.

    In this conversation with Cynthia Eriksson, we discuss:

    • How leaders and helpers and caretakers can identify trauma in themselves, and come to recognize, accept, and respond.
    • The importance of paying attention to our brains, bodies, and environment.
    • The 5 R’s of resilience to trauma and recovery from trauma.
    • Spiritual responses to suffering and pain—which can often result in incredibly profound experiences with God—and this includes expressing anger at God within a struggle.
    • And practically, we talk about how to deal with avoidance, defensiveness, and blaming others or ourselves—basically, the potentially destructive nature of coping mechanisms.
    • And we close with a beautiful grounding practice that connects us all to our bodies and emotions, to engage trauma, and stay on the path to thriving.

    About Cynthia Eriksson

    Cynthia Eriksson is Dean of the Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy, and is a Professor of Psychology in the Clinical Psychology Department.

    Her research is particularly focused on the needs of cross-cultural aid for mission workers, as well as the interaction of trauma and spirituality. This work has included trauma training, research, and consultation in Monrovia, Liberia; Kobe, Japan; Phnom Penh, Cambodia; Amsterdam, the Netherlands; Barcelona, Spain; Guatemala City, Guatemala; Gulu, Uganda; and Amman, Jordan.

    Eriksson also collaborated with colleagues in the US, Europe, and Africa on a longitudinal research project on stress in humanitarian aid workers funded by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta. She also participates in the Headington Program in International Trauma at Fuller.

    She has completed research on risk and resilience, exposure to stress, and spiritual development in urban youth workers funded by the Fuller Youth Institute.

    Eriksson and her students are currently exploring the intersection of cultural humility and culturally-embedded resilience practices through collaborations with ministry agencies and Fuller colleague Alexia Salvatierra.


    About the Thrive Center

    • Learn more at thethrivecenter.org.
    • Follow us on Instagram @thrivecenter
    • Follow us on X @thrivecenter
    • Follow us on LinkedIn @thethrivecenter

    About Dr. Pam King

    Dr. Pam King is Executive Director the Thrive Center and is Peter L. Benson Professor of Applied Developmental Science at Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy. Follow her @drpamking.

    About With & For

    • Host: Pam King
    • Senior Director and Producer: Jill Westbrook
    • Operations Manager: Lauren Kim
    • Social Media Graphic Designer: Wren Juergensen

    Special thanks to the team at Fuller Studio and the Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy.


    From the Inside Out: Relationships, Mental Health, & Interpersonal Neurobiology with Dr. Dan Siegel Feb 26, 2024
    Show notes

    In developmental science, there are lots of debates between nature and nurture. And Dr. Dan Siegel’s groundbreaking work in interpersonal neurobiology demonstrates that we are naturally wired for nurture—and furthermore, we cannot thrive without it.

    Over the past five decades, he has sought to explain through attachment theory and a study of the brain, how relationships shape our feelings, thoughts, memories, stories and personal narratives, and how all these offer an opportunity for us to integrate all of our personal subjective with the world outside us.

    Dr. Dan Siegel is Clinical Professor of Psychiatry at the UCLA School of Medicine and the founding co-director of the Mindful Awareness Research Center at UCLA. He has authored numerous research articles, books, and accessible materials that apply what we know about the brain to our most sacred and significant relationships.

    In this conversation with Dan Siegel, we discuss:

    • The connection between the mind and the brain, and why that matters for our thriving
    • Coming to terms with big, challenging emotions—especially fear
    • How psychological integration creates flow and harmony and helps us deal with chaos and rigidity
    • The scientific connection between focused attention, open awareness, and compassionate intention
    • He walks us through a mindfulness exercise he calls “the wheel of awareness”
    • The neurobiology of interpersonal relationships
    • And we discuss how that impacts not just our spirituality and relationships, but society as a whole.

    About Dan Siegel

    Dr. Siegel is a Clinical Professor of Psychiatry at the UCLA School of Medicine and the founding co-director of the Mindful Awareness Research Center at UCLA. An award-winning educator, he is a Distinguished Fellow of the American Psychiatric Association and recipient of several honorary fellowships. Dr. Siegel is also the Executive Director of the Mindsight Institute, an educational organization, which offers online learning and in-person seminars that focus on how the development of mindsight in individuals, families and communities can be enhanced by examining the interface of human relationships and basic biological processes. His psychotherapy practice includes children, adolescents, adults, couples, and families. He serves as the Medical Director of the LifeSpan Learning Institute and on the Advisory Board of the Blue School in New York City, which has built its curriculum around Dr. Siegel’s Mindsight approach.

    He is author of many books, including, The Developing Mind: How Relationships and the Brain Interact to Shape Who We Are, Mindsight: The New Science of Personal Transformation, The Whole-Brain Child: 12 Revolutionary Strategies to Nurture Your Child's Developing Mind, Survive Everyday Parenting Struggles, and Help Your Family Thrive, Parenting from the Inside Out: How A Deeper Self-Understanding Can Help You Raise Children Who Thrive, and his most recent, IntraConnected: MWe (Me + We) as the Integration of Self, Identity, and Belonging.


    About the Thrive Center

    • Learn more at thethrivecenter.org.
    • Follow us on Instagram @thrivecenter
    • Follow us on X @thrivecenter
    • Follow us on LinkedIn @thethrivecenter

    About Dr. Pam King

    Dr. Pam King is Executive Director the Thrive Center and is Peter L. Benson Professor of Applied Developmental Science at Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy. Follow her @drpamking.

    About With & For

    • Host: Pam King
    • Senior Director and Producer: Jill Westbrook
    • Operations Manager: Lauren Kim
    • Social Media Graphic Designer: Wren Juergensen

    Special thanks to the team at Fuller Studio and the Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy.


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