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    Where Do We Go From Here?

    A weekly podcast deconstructing purity culture, sex and other real life stuff for thoughtful Christians and exvangelicals alike.

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    Latest Episodes:
    What Does Safe Sex and Ghosting Have in Common? Apr 08, 2025
    Show notes

    Welcome to Where Do We Go From Here's new monthly episode series: No Hard Feelings - where we take on the questions that don't have easy answers. But the answers don't need to be hard and fast. Here we'll explore different perspectives, share our own thoughts and invite you to form your own - because here, there's no hard feelings.

    Host: Jessica

    Co-hosts: Emily & Kristen

    In the inaugeral episode of 'No Hard Feelings', Jessica, Emily, and Kristen delve into the complexities of ghosting and its implications in dating and relationships. They explore whether ghosting is ever acceptable, the nuances of communication in various relationship stages, and the importance of safety and vulnerability. The conversation encourages thoughtful dialogue and diverse perspectives on these often contentious topics. In this episode, the hosts discuss the emotional impact of ghosting in relationships, emphasizing the lack of communication and emotional intelligence often exhibited by men. They transition into the topic of contraception, debating whose responsibility it is and the importance of open conversations about sexual health. The discussion highlights the need for mutual respect and understanding in relationships, particularly regarding contraceptive choices. The episode concludes with a reflection on the challenges of adulting and the necessity of ongoing dialogue in navigating complex issues.

    Takeaways:

    • Ghosting is defined as ending a relationship without explanation.
    • The hosts discuss the disrespectful nature of ghosting in established relationships.
    • Safety concerns can justify ghosting in certain situations.
    • Communication is essential, but not always safe or easy.
    • Different perspectives on ghosting can lead to more understanding.
    • Caspering, or friendly ghosting, is a more respectful approach.
    • The impact of ghosting on emotional resilience is significant.
    • Generational differences in ghosting behaviors are evident.
    • The hosts emphasize the importance of vulnerability in dating.
    • Navigating dating requires balancing honesty and personal safety. Ghosting leaves individuals with an ambiguous loss.
    • Most men lack emotional intelligence regarding ghosting.
    • Women often articulate their feelings better than men.
    • Contraception is a shared responsibility between partners.
    • Open conversations about sex are crucial for safety.
    • Condoms should be prioritized to protect both partners.
    • Purity culture impacts decisions around contraception.
    • Conversations can prevent misunderstandings in relationships.
    • Adulting involves navigating difficult conversations.
    • It's important to keep asking questions about relationships.

    Where Do We Go From Here? is a podcast hosted and produced by Jessica Vanderwyngaard.

    Support the work of the podcast at patreon.com/wheredowegopod


    Where Did Devi Go From Here? Saying Goodbye (for now) Mar 25, 2025
    Show notes

    After nearly five years of co-creating Where Do We Go From Here?, Devi Abraham is stepping away from the podcast and Patreon community — and today, Jess sits down with her for one final conversation.

    In this emotional and reflective episode, Devi shares what led to her decision, how her life has shifted since 2019, and what she's dreaming about in this next chapter. From parenting and mental health to rest, community, and the surprising role of cake in connecting with teenagers, this episode is full of the warmth, honesty, and depth Devi has brought to the mic every single time.

    Whether you've been here since the beginning or are just tuning in, this is a moment to mark. Thank you, Devi. 💛

    👉 Stick around to hear what's next for Where Do We Go From Here?, including our new monthly serial No Hard Feelings and Thoughts & Prayers.

    🔗 Show Notes:
    • 📬 Subscribe to Devi's writing: deviabraham.substack.com

    • 📸 Follow Devi on Instagram: @devi_writes

    • 💛 Learn more about Prison Network

    • 🧵 Join our community on Patreon: patreon.com/wheredowegopod

    • 🎧 Listen to the episode with Matthias: ["What Are the Rules When There Are No Rules?"]


    Devi's got something to share... Mar 06, 2025
    Show notes

    Where Do We Go From Here is a podcast hosted, edited and produced by Jessica Vanderwyngaard and Devi Abraham.

    Sign up for a 2-month long book club discussing Sarah C. Williams new book: "When Courage Calls: Josephine Butler and the Radical Pursuit of Justice for Women."

    Sign up at patreon.com/wheredowegopod for $10 a month, or as a $7 upgrade from our $3 membership level. (Prices in USD.)

    Book Club Benefits:

    • Private Facebook group for online discussions throughout the month
    • Zoom discussion on the book (month 1)
    • Zoom conversation with the author (month 2)

    You can find out more by going to wheredowegopod.com

    You can join the conversation on Instagram @wheredowegopod


    149: Radical Activism, Women's Rights, and the Legacy of Josephine Butler Feb 07, 2025
    Show notes

    In the 19th century, Josephine Butler defied every expectation of what a woman should be. A privileged, refined Victorian lady, she became a fearless advocate for women on the margins—challenging sexual double standards, fighting the legal system that punished women while protecting men, and leading a movement that changed British law and history. Today, historian Sarah C. Williams, author of When Courage Calls: Josephine Butler and the Radical Pursuit of Justice for Women, joins us to unpack Butler's extraordinary life and the paradoxes that made her so compelling. What does her story have to teach us about faith, justice, activism, and the courage to challenge oppressive systems? And how does her legacy speak to us today, in a world where women's bodies are once again being politicized and controlled? Whether you're deconstructing purity culture, rethinking your faith, or just looking for a story of radical love in action—this episode is for you. Links & Resources: When Courage Calls by Sarah C. Williams (Australia, USA) Subscribe & share this episode with someone who needs to hear it! Book Club


    148: Purity Culture's Black & White Thinking Hurt us. Here's What Can Help Nov 14, 2024
    Show notes

    For anyone who thought kissing someone you didn't marry would ruin your life and wreck your faith, Dr. Camden Morgante is here to help.

    Show Notes:

    Partner with us to hear more about how to develop your sexual values Recovering from Purity Culture by Dr. Camden Morgante Instagram (talk to us!) Twitter

    Dr. Camden Morgante is a licensed psychologist with nearly 15 years of experience as a therapist and college professor. She owns a private therapy practice focusing on women's issues, relationships, sexuality, trauma, and spirituality, and is a frequent speaker. Dr. Camden's mission is to help Christians heal their faith from toxic beliefs. She is the author of Recovering from Purity Culture. Dr. Camden lives in Knoxville, Tennessee, with her husband and their daughter and son.


    Losing Her Religion: Gen Z's Gender Divide in Faith Nov 03, 2024
    Show notes

    Jess and Devi are back with a lot of thoughts about why Gen Z men are now more religious than Gen Z women. The episode also features the thoughts of our fabulous partners.

    Like this style of episode? Join us in Patreon for a unique News & Views episode every single month.

    Show Notes In a First Among Christians, Young Men Are More Religious Than Women (NY Times)


    What Comes Next? Apr 27, 2024
    Show notes

    In this episode Devi shares what's next for the show.

    Sign up as a partner to hear weekly episodes of The Jess & Devi Show

    Stay connected on Instagram and Twitter

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    'Pure White': The origin story of purity culture Mar 22, 2024
    Show notes

    Trigger warning: This episode contains stories of racial violence and sexualized racial violence.

    In this episode we deep dive Purity Culture's origin story, and its connection with America's racial history.

    Full show notes here. Talk to us on Instagram and Twitter

    Want to talk about this episode? Join our partners in The Big Debrief on Tuesday March 26 at 9pm EST and Wednesday March 27 at noon in Melbourne.

    Sara Moslener is a lecturer in the Department of Philosophy, Anthropology, and Religion at Central Michigan University where she teaches courses on the history of religious and racial discrimination in the United States. She has been studying evangelical purity culture for over 15 years and has numerous publications including the book Virgin Nation: Sexual Purity and American Adolescence (Oxford University Press: 2015). She hosts the new series Pure White: Sexual Purity and White Supremacy with Axis Mundi Media. Connect with her on Twitter and Substack.


    An "Easy Love" After Divorce: Haverlee's Story Mar 09, 2024
    Show notes

    In this episode we talk about love after divorce as Haverlee shares her story of a marriage breakdown, living alone, dating, and finding new love. It's part of our three part series. You can find the first two episodes here:

    142: What If Marriage Doesn't Make You Happy Or Holy? 143: 7 Signs That Your Marriage Can be Saved

    Partner with us for $3/month to hear an uncut conversation before anyone else does. Professor Sara Moslener takes us back to school to uncover the connection between purity culture and white supremacy in the US. She also talks about the recent Alabama Supreme Court ruling on embryos and how that connects to purity culture rhetoric of the past.

    Follow us for more on Instagram and Twitter

    Full show notes and transcript here


    7 Signs That Your Marriage Can Be Saved Feb 27, 2024
    Show notes

    There are characteristics and qualities of relationships that lead to better outcomes, and Dr. Camden Morgante joins us to talk about seven of them. If you're concerned about your marriage or have qestions about the person you're dating or engaged to, this episode is for you. Listen to our previous episode to hear more about divorce in the United States.

    Full show notes here (including a full transcript of Dr. Camden and Devi's interview). Follow us on Instagram and Twitter to get a recap of the 7 signs.

    Partners get to talk about this episode and more on February 27 (9pm EST)/ 28 (1pm AEDT). Join us for $3/month to get last week's romcom recap of Crazy, Stupid, Love.

    Dr. Camden Morgante is a licensed clinical psychologist with over 13 years of experience as a therapist, college professor, and supervisor. She owns a private therapy practice focusing on women's issues, relationships, sexuality, trauma, and spirituality. Connect with her on Instagram


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