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55: Galentines and the Celebration of Friendship in a Romance World Feb 04, 2021

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February the month of love! Why is it though that both the broader culture and church culture tries to funnel us toward romantic love as the only expression of love there is? We want to celebrate Galentines today (and may we suggest, Guy-entines?!), and celebrate the reasons why our friendships are worth the investment. We explore why it might be tricky in our highly online, disconnected world, and we examine how to maintain friendships while dating or after marriage.

We also open up the mailbag and have another segment with Dr. Celeste Holbrook answering a sex question at the end.

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54: Where Did Jason Go From Here? Jan 27, 2021

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Every month we are going to bring you stories of every day people who listen to the show and are working out what to do with what they learn here. Today, we meet Jason. He's from California but lives in Melbourne with his wife and family, and he's a chaplain at a Christian school.

He tells us about:

his youth group years
life at a conservative Bible college
the transition into adulthood in Australia
and how he's learning to listen and develop empathy for people who aren't like him

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Partner with us for $3/month and hear our newest episode of The Jess & Devi Show as we watch movies from our teens. First up, we watch and discuss 10 Things I Hate About You. Does it still hold up? What did it get right? What did it get wrong? This is exclusive for Partners of the show.

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53: What Makes Sex Good with Dr. Celeste Holbrook Jan 20, 2021

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Consider this your private appointment with a sex educator to find out all the details you missed out on about s-e-x. Dr. Celeste Holbrook joins us to talk about spontaneous and responsive arousal, sexual pivoting, and some basics around communication when it comes to sex. This is a conversation for grown ups only, and for people who are ready to have better sex now.

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Dr. Celeste Holbrook is a sexologist and speaker who helps her clients evolve into the women they were created to be, in and outside of the bedroom. She speaks on a variety of topics from sex drive and sexual shame to painful intercourse, purity culture and more. Her mission is to provide safe spaces for people to talk about sex Dr. Celeste has been featured in Women's Health Magazine, Mothers of Preschoolers, Reader's Digest and more. Connect with Dr. Celeste on Instagram

52: Parenting and Re-parenting Without Sexual Shame with Dr. Tina Schermer Sellers Jan 13, 2021

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It's not ONE sex talk, it's one hundred one-minute conversations about sexuality, intimacy, and body curiosity. Ever wondered how to parent your kids in a way that celebrates their sexuality instead of fearing it? THIS is the one you've been waiting for as we welcome Dr. Tina to our show. She brings a wealth of wisdom and practical advice drawing from over 30 years of experience in sexual health, therapy, and education. Not a parent? Maybe you've been wondering how to reparent yourself from the years you spent in Purity Culture - this conversation is for you too. Learn how to have compassion for your younger self and walk forward embracing the gift of your body, your curiosity, and your sexuality.

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Tina Schermer Sellers, PhD, LMFT, CSTS is a licensed sex and gender feminist psychotherapist, writer, researcher, supervisor, and public figure whose expertise spans sex therapy, spiritual intimacy, medicine, parenting, and social justice. Dr. Sellers' book Sex, God, & the Conservative Church – Erasing Shame from Sexual Intimacy has had a global impact exposing the damage of sexual shame. Now she speaks throughout the world on how to heal, and how to raise shame-free relationally confident children. Connect with her on Instagram @drtinashameless

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51: Ravi Zacharias Update, Love Actually and More! Jan 06, 2021

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We start 2021 off with a letter from our mailbag, personal news, and a look at the recent report from Miller & Martin regarding the firm's investigation into allegations of sexual misconduct against Ravi Zacharias. The news is bad. Do Christians like Tim Tebow, Louie Giglio, and Christine Caine who publicly said #thankyouRavi owe his victims an apology? We also look back at the heartwarming Christmas movie Love, Actually to see if it holds up, actually.

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50: Say goodbye to those "heroes" Dec 21, 2020

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Ravi Zacharias. John Crist. Carl Lentz. It hasn't been a good year for famous Christians, specifically as it relates to sex. Today we revisit one of our most-downloaded conversations from 2020, but we add in a conversation about Carl Lentz, the celebrity pastor of Hillsong Church NYC fired for having an affair. Do we need Christian celebrities? We say no.

An important note: After we recorded this episode, RZIM released a statement revealing the truthfulness of the allegations of sexual misconduct (their words) against Ravi Zacharias. We don't cover the latest news in this episode, but we encourage you to read the latest statement.

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49: Sex and Agency Dec 21, 2020

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Waiting for permission? You're not the only one... Listen in to this remix of Devi's conversation with sex therapist and author, Sheila Gregoire - our guest on the episode Sex is for Wives too. We update our debrief on Sheila's profound insights and take the conversation further discussing individual agency around major life decisions such as sexual ethics.

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48: When You're Alone For The Holidays Dec 16, 2020

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Christmas is a time for romance, or so the Hallmark movies go. What do we do when we're alone during the holidays? And what about 2020 the year when there may be no gatherings because of Covid-19? We gathered three single women together who are all in different stages of their lives, homeowners, living with parents, living on their own, to talk about what single life is like during the holidays.

For those of you who are single, we hope this helps you know that you're not alone. For those of you who are partnered, let this grow empathy in you for what you're single friends are experiencing.

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47: Finding Common Ground on Sex, family, & Faith Dec 09, 2020

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In January we start reading Beyond Shame by Matthias Roberts, so we remixed our last conversation with him for you today. With the wisdom and compassion of a therapist, Matthias talks to us about the building blocks of healthy sexuality. Jess & Devi round out the conversation by talking about how we can find common ground with people with whom we might disagree. Why does this common ground matter? Why do we need to address our own intellectual insecurities? Listen in to find out.

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Matthias Roberts is author of Beyond Shame: Creating a Healthy Sex Life on Your Own Terms (Fortress, 2020) and host of Queerology: A Podcast on Belief and Being which was named as one of the "12 Best LGBTQ+ Podcasts of 2020" by O: The Oprah Magazine and the #1 Podcast to Listen to on National Coming Out Day by Radio.com. He holds two master's degrees, one in theology and culture and one in counseling psychology from The Seattle School of Theology and Psychology. In his psychotherapy practice, Matthias specializes in helping LGBTQ+ teens and adults live confident and fulfilling lives. He writes and speaks often about the intersections between gender, sexuality, mental health, and theology.

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46: There's more to Sex Than 'Purity' & 'Virginity' Nov 30, 2020

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All December 2020 we are revisiting our earlier episodes from season 1. Should we use the word "sexual purity" or is there a better way to talk about our sexuality as Christians? Jess and Devi chat today about how beliefs have evolved (or not) in the past year. Would we say the same thing now as we did last year?

Are words like "virginity" and "sexual purity" the best ways to talk about the human body and the human sexual experience? Listen in to hear our conclusions.

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