When Songs Mean Business

Latest Episodes:

Understanding Money in Music - The Four Industries in Music Dec 21, 2022

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Today's episode is an edit from the first class in my new course, Understanding Money in Music. In this episode, you'll hear my story, the data that got me interested in studying the business of music, and you'll hear me dissecting a bunch of problems that I encounter when I'm working closely with musicians on their businesses and taxes. In this episode I begin to explain the four different industries in the music business and why a musician's tax return is more complicated than a lot of other businesses. You'll hear from a few of my students, and stay tuned at the end for a guided meditation on leadership.

Check out the new daily planner here: stephbelcher.com/dailyplanner

Copyrighting your Album: A Live Consulting Session with Clare Maloney Dec 10, 2022

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On today's episode of When Songs Mean Business, Steph and her guest Clare Maloney sit down to copyright Clare's new album, Daybreaker. What happened during this episode was challenging, confusing, and by the end of it, very empowering. Like Clare says here, there's something really special about stamping your name on a piece of intellectual property.

Listen to Daybreaker: https://lnk.to/ClareMaloney

The Art of Recording and Engineering with Andy Reed Nov 30, 2022

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Welcome to Season 2 of When Songs Mean Business!

On today's episode I am chatting with Andy Reed, a recording engineer, producer, singer, songwriter, and musician from Bay City, MI. He owns and operates his own recording studio called Reed Recording Company. Throughout his 24 year career, Andy has worked with hundreds of artists as a touring musician and in the recording studio, including a couple of my favorites, Brendan Benson and The Verve Pipe. Andy explains the different ways to mic, track, and record things, what a producer can bring to an incomplete song, how artists can evolve to sound different on every album, and how to relax into your creativity. We discuss his entrepreneurial journey over the past 16 years, what it's like to have a studio at home, and of course, what he's been listening to lately. I loved this conversation and I hope you do too.

Please give us a follow on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube for video versions and clips of these episodes, and as always feel free to email me with questions, links are in the show notes.

How to Reach Andy: reedrecordingcompany.com

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How to Protect your Music with attorney Cynthia Katz Jul 05, 2022

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Today's episode is a masterclass in copyright law and protecting your music assets. I'm chatting with attorney Cynthia Katz, and she is a wealth of knowledge on how the system works, and what you need to do to protect yourself. If you're writing original music, getting hired for sessions, writing songs, or playing covers, you need to hear this episode.

How to Reach Cynthia:

https://www.foxrothschild.com/cynthia-l-katz

https://www.linkedin.com/in/cynthia-katz-goldfrach-544bb810/

How to Reach Us:

Support the podcast by joining our Patreon community. Check it out at patreon.com/whensongsmeanbusiness

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Learn more about Steph at stephbelcher.com

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Staying on an Even Keel in Music - with Justin Powell Jun 09, 2022

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Today I'm talking to professional musician turned financial planner. Justin Powell. Justin is a classically trained musician who discovered rock music and went on to perform with some of the best musicians in the improvisational jam band rock scene. He was a core member of The Mantras for many years, helping them run their festival. and he's also very active in the Asheville music scene, setting up cool events like the Soul Jazz jam and playing with Blue Bop, a Bela Fleck and the Flecktones tribute band. Justin and I talk about entrepreneurship, planning festivals, being alcohol-free, tips on how to control anxiety, financial management, songwriting, and even more.

** This episode is dedicated to the memory of Kofi Burbridge. As you'll hear in the episode, Kofi gave Justin a piece of advice that changed the course of his life, and without him, this podcast episode wouldn't be here. Kofi was an absolutely brilliant musician who played with more soul than the stage could handle. I have so many fond memories of dancing barefoot in the field of a festival while Kofi poured it all out on stage. To honor his legacy, Derek Trucks and Susan Tedeschi created the Kofi Burbridge Music Matters Fund in partnership with Mr. Holland’s Opus Foundation to increase access to instruments and music programs for thousands of youth across the country.

To support this cause, please click here:

The Kofi Burbridge Music Matters Fund

Key Moments:

06:27 - Finding balance in work and music

15:44 - Festival planning - plan for the unexpected

22:22 - Building a musician's musician community

27:03 - "Don't be afraid to engage with people who are further along in their career"

34:26 - If you don't think you own business, you won't grow like you own a business.

40:00 - An ode to cover songs.

44:28 - You're in the business of throwing a party

54:23 - How to plan ahead in such an unstable industry

How to Reach Justin:

Valor Private Wealth, LLC

www.valorwealthadvisors.com

How to Reach Us:

Support the podcast by joining our Patreon community. Check it out at patreon.com/whensongsmeanbusiness

Follow WSMB on Instagram: instagram.com/whensongsmeanbusiness

Join our Facebook Group: facebook.com/groups/whensongsmeanbusiness

Learn more about Steph at stephbelcher.com

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Creating Space for Different Perspectives in Music with Rasha Shaker May 31, 2022

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Today I am chatting with Rasha Shaker, a music marketing professional living in Nashville. Rasha has worked with brands, bands, music festivals, venues and more to design strategic marketing plans, and she's currently pursuing an MBA in Music Business at MTSU. She has helped a touring artist generate over a million dollars in sales, and she lead a marketing campaign with a 14x return on ad spend. But as impressive as these things are, she's so much more than that.

As is usually the case with my podcast, we ended up talking about the human stuff - fitting in to a complicated world when you're neuro-divergent, VR and music in the metaverse, race and gender diversity in country music, and much more. Rasha is an incredibly bright mind with a huge heart for empathy and I strongly encourage everyone to hear what she has to say about neurodiversity in music and making room for people with disabilities at your table.

As always, feel free to reach out via email if you want to chat about any topics in this episode.

Key Moments:

02:48 - Neuro-diversity, what does that mean?

09:34 - Calling out microaggressions and flight vs fight vs freeze

17:13 - Passion for music meets passion for diversity inclusion

24:07 - People can exist in these spaces and it doesn't need to threaten your identity.

36:19 - VR as a technology that helps people with disabilities enjoy music

42:50 - What Rasha's been listening to lately (with an interlude - Ode to Lady Gaga)

57:14 - Why companies should hire neuro-diverse individuals to solve their problems

1:01:32 - Turn yourself up to 11 and be unapologetic

Follow Rasha:

Website - rashaker.com

Instagram - @ra_sha_ker

Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/rashashaker/

Books mentioned:

How to Win Friends and Influence People - Dale Carnegie

Dare to Lead - Brene Brown

How to Reach Us:

Support the podcast by joining our Patreon community. Check it out at patreon.com/whensongsmeanbusiness

Follow WSMB on Instagram: instagram.com/whensongsmeanbusiness

Join our Facebook Group: facebook.com/groups/whensongsmeanbusiness

Learn more about Steph at stephbelcher.com

If you want to help us out without a financial commitment, please share this episode and rate us on Apple or Spotify.

A deep dive into recording and production with Jake Rye May 24, 2022

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Today's episode is so full of incredible production and recording and songwriting information from my friend Jake Rye. Jake owns a recording studio in Michigan called Social Recording Company and was a member of the Grammy nominated band Sanctus Real for several years. We talk about his path into music and all the things he learned along the way, from being in a publishing deal to self-employment, parenthood, and much more. Buckle in - this is a long one and there's a lot of good stuff in the back half of the episode, so try to stick around till the end.

Key Moments:

2:30 - The grow-up story

14:30 - 150 shows a year

19:41 - Losing a pub deal: "it was like we never existed"

25:27 - I never thought I'd have a basement studio but I love it

27:49 - Jake's songwriting process

39:00 - Inspiration comes whenever it wants to

51:00 - What tracks to include in a demo

58:15 - Audio recording is a process of stacking bricks

1:04:30 - Thom Yorke didn't use auto-tune

1:14:21 - Listening to a final mix

1:26:08 - Sync licensing - the money is in advertising

1:29:55 - You don't have to change who you are to be successful

How to Reach Jake:

Personal website: https://www.jakeryemix.com/

Studio website: https://socialrecordingcompany.com/

How to Reach Us:

Support the podcast by joining our Patreon community. Check it out at patreon.com/whensongsmeanbusiness

Follow WSMB on Instagram: instagram.com/whensongsmeanbusiness

Join our Facebook Group: facebook.com/groups/whensongsmeanbusiness

Learn more about Steph at stephbelcher.com

If you want to help us out without a financial commitment, please share this episode and rate us on Apple or Spotify.

Futuristic Music Technology with Senaida Ng May 17, 2022

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Today i'm talking to Senaida Ng, a Toronto native who is studying music at NYU. Senaida is a sound architect, creative entrepreneur and futurist. Through her work as a conscious artist and thinker, she explores the intersection between art and emerging technologies. Classically-trained in piano, she has performed at prestigious concert halls and music festivals across North America including Carnegie Hall and has won multiple national and international music competitions. She currently attends the Clive Davis Institute of Recorded Music at NYU where she founded the Gender Equality in Music Club and is a DJ on WNYU 89.1 FM. She is the founder and CEO of MiSynth, a music-tech startup revolutionizing music creation with the brain. SENAIDA has released two EPs and is currently working on her first full-length NFT album, The Nothing In Between.

Senaida's Website: https://senaida.ca/

Music Streaming: https://audius.co/senaida

MiSynth: https://misynth.io

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/senaidaxoxo/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/senaidaxoxo/

Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/senaidaxoxo/

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@senaida_xoxo

How to Reach Us:

Support the podcast by joining our Patreon community. Check it out at patreon.com/whensongsmeanbusiness

Follow WSMB on Instagram: instagram.com/whensongsmeanbusiness

Join our Facebook Group: facebook.com/groups/whensongsmeanbusiness

Learn more about Steph at stephbelcher.com

If you want to help us out without a financial commitment, please share this episode and rate us on Apple or Spotify.

Marketing in Music is about Storytelling May 10, 2022

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Today's episode is about marketing and how you can use your authentic story to create a really tight knit community of fans who buy everything you put out. Connecting with your fans on a deeper level means being vulnerable about the things you've learned, the mistakes you've made, and how you've changed throughout your life. For the first time, I share parts of my story that lead me to where I am today. Music marketing starts with vulnerability, so click play on this episode if you want to learn how to be more open with your fans or clients while building your business.

Key moments:

04:58 - The magic in the human element

07:25 - Examples of authentic storytelling

12:34 - The bad things that happen to you do not define you

20:42 - Storytelling on stage and in songwriting

25:14 - Using your story to build your fanbase - the 1000 True Fans Theory

29:23 - How to use a digital marketing funnel in music

35:44 - Creating customer avatars for your 1000 true fans

Resources from this episode:

Brene Brown Ted Talk on The Power of Vulnerability: https://youtu.be/iCvmsMzlF7o

Cyper PR - How to Identify Your Ideal Fan: https://www.cyberprmusic.com/ultimate-fan/

The Marketing Funnel: https://stephbelcher.com/marketing-funnel

How to Reach Us:

Support the podcast by joining our Patreon community. Check it out at patreon.com/whensongsmeanbusiness

Follow WSMB on Instagram: instagram.com/whensongsmeanbusiness

Join our Facebook Group: facebook.com/groups/whensongsmeanbusiness

Learn more about Steph at stephbelcher.com

If you want to help us out without a financial commitment, please share this episode and rate us on Apple or Spotify.

The Myth of the Starving Artist with Judeanne Armenti Apr 06, 2022

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Today i'm talking to Judeanne Armenti. Judeanne is a 20-year veteran of the music business who has worked in ticketing, finance, and administration at multiple live music promoters on the east coast. During the pandemic, Judeanne started a company called JA Creatives Consulting, where she educates creatives about basic accounting and finance, as well as counseling them on music business practices. Her goal is to dispel the myth that creative people aren't good with math, money, or business. I love this mission so much and it's something I try to teach as well. Judeanne and I both believe that ALL creatives have the skills to navigate the intersection of art and commerce. Judeanne says that with just a bit of knowledge, careers and lifestyles can be improved. All that stands in the way is mindset and practice.

Key Moments:

04:37 - The Box Office: hub of the venue

13:29 - Judeanne's favorite show ever

16:28 - The myth of the starving artist

23:21 - Taking care of your finances is like learning an instrument

25:55 - Income vs profit and professional or hobby?

30:46 - Doubling your fanbase again and again

35:59 - The musician's musician

38:05 - Using numbers to negotiate your door deals

42:48 - Pricing and selling merch at gigs

54:14 - Judeanne's first musical loves

1:01:00 - How to work with Judeanne

Follow Judeanne:

Website: www.jacreativesconsulting.com
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/JACCLLC
IG: https://www.instagram.com/jacreativesconsulting/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/ja-creatives-consulting-llc

Over on Patreon, Steph is thoughtfully curating a community of financially sound and successful musicians. Check it out at patreon.com/whensongsmeanbusiness

Follow WSMB on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/whensongsmeanbusiness

Join our Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/whensongsmeanbusiness

Learn more about Steph at stephbelcher.com

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