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    What Really Happened at The Lord’s Ranch?

    Two former residents of The Lord’s Ranch go back over 40 years and interview various generations of former residents, staff members, local towns people, and a local award-winning investigative journalist about a religious-based adolescent treatment facility in Warm Springs, Arkansas. The Lord’s Ranch was founded by a financial felon from California; named Bud Suhl. After his time incarcerated, Suhl proclaimed he had turned his life around when he found Jesus. He left California and moved to Randolph County, Arkansas with his new wife Shirley. Bud Suhl opened up inpatient and outpatient treatment facilities for troubled youth. The newly found inpatient facility was in a small town of fewer than 300 residents and has since been the subject of numerous investigations that go as high up as the FBI. The Lord’s Ranch even briefly lost their license three years into business due to numerous complaints of abuse. These investigations ultimately made Bud’s son, Ted a felon as well. In 2016, around 50 years after Bud’s conviction, Ted was convicted of bribery and fraud. Ted got out of prison about 4 1/2 years early when Suhl’s family friend, Mike Huckabee convinced President Donald Trump to commute his seven-year sentence. As it stands right now, nobody has been able to find any documentation indicating how long Bud spent in prison. At any rate, since Ted had his sentence commuted rather than being fully pardoned, he remains a felon for financial crimes committed when his business hit a low point– just like his father. With allegations of mental, physical, and sexual abuse at The Lord’s Ranch, Sammi and Ryan decided to do a deep dive into the matter. Whether it was good, bad, or ugly, they searched for the full truth. The statements in this podcast may sound one-sided but nearly everybody who felt compelled to defend the ranch was unwilling to be interviewed on the podcast. We even offered to let defensive staff members speak while we asked zero questions and agreed to offer no rebuttals to anything the guest said. It would essentially have been a speech in defense of The Lord’s Ranch. But unfortunately, most preferred to type words, rather than speaking on the phone. Some have also tried their best to prevent people from coming onto our podcast to share their story. For somebody claiming innocence, that seems rather suspect. At any rate, we continued asking anybody with any kind of experiece with The Lord’s Ranch what it was like. These are their stories.WARNNG: Some of the details spoken in this podcast are disturbing. Listen at your own risk.

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    Season 1 Episode 32: Child Molestation and Production of Child Pornography (Part 2) Jul 23, 2023
    Show notes

    *WARNING* Listener discretion is advised. This episode may be difficult for some people to listen to as it contains sexually explicit descriptions involving one or more minors and one or more adults.
    This is Part Two of two episodes. Should you choose to hear this interview, listen to this episode AFTER listening to Part One of the interview.

    Picking up where we left off in Part One, this episode further delves into alleged abhorrent behavior by former staff members at The Lord's Ranch. There will be moments of silence during this episode due to necessary pauses in the conversation.

    If this testimony doesn't warrant an investigation, I don't know what does.

    Season 1 Episode 31: Child Molestation and Production of Child Pornography (Part 1) Jul 23, 2023
    Show notes

    *WARNING* Listener discretion is advised. This episode may be difficult for some people to listen to as it contains sexually explicit descriptions involving one or more minors and one or more adults.
    This is Part One of two episodes. Should you choose to hear this interview, listen to this episode BEFORE listening to Part Two.
    A former resident of The Lord's Ranch goes into graphic detail of what I believe to be the most disturbing interview ever shared on this podcast. Due to the length of our exchange, this podcast has been broken up into two episodes. There will be moments of silence due to necessary pauses in the conversation.

    Season 1 Episode 30: Nathan Harmon Talks Gary Jackson and More Jul 10, 2023
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    Nathan Harmon went to The Lord's Ranch for two years in the 90's. In this emotionally charged episode, we discuss his experience-- including stories about former staff who are still affiliated with industries involving children. This included Emmett Presley, Gary Jackson, and several others.
    The music composed for this podcast came from Blaq2ba. You can contact him at:
    https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=199500549
    You can contact us at our Facebook:
    https://www.facebook.com/RyanHobbsandtheLordsRanch/

    Season 1 Episode 29: Michael Robinson Tells What He Knows About Sexual Abuse at TLR. Jul 04, 2023
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    Michael Robinson went to The Lord's Ranch in the late 90's/early 2000's. If you've been listening to previous episodes, you've heard his name mentioned more than once.
    Michael Robinson is now the first person to go on record about an elderly male counselor who allegedly routinely pursued sexual intercourse with young black residents. Mike goes into detail about where and what his counselor allegedly attempted to do. He also goes into detail about his counselor apologizing profusely when Mike wouldn't allow him to touch him inappropriately.
    He also tells of how he immediately reported the incident to two staff members named Gary Jackson and Steve Marlow. Despite the alleged attempted solicitation of a minor, the staff member remained employed by The Lord's Ranch for years to come. Mike was simply given a different counselor to solve the problem.
    I've heard numerous stories about this counselor--nearly identical-- from multiple people, but nobody wanted to go on record about it.....until now. Mike hopes that sharing his experience will encourage others to come forward about his former counselor, Emmett Alden Presley--AKA Mr. P.
    The music composed for this podcast came from Blaq2ba. You can contact him at:
    https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=199500549
    You can contact us at our Facebook:
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    Season 1 Episode 28: Alex Smith (Part 3) Jun 25, 2023
    Show notes

    In our third and final installment of our interview with Alex Smith, we expound on what was previously spoken about in the previous episodes and Alex shares new memories of what he saw and experienced at The Lord's Ranch.
    The music composed for this podcast came from Blaq2ba. You can contact him at:
    https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=199500549
    You can contact us at our Facebook:
    https://www.facebook.com/RyanHobbsandtheLordsRanch/

    Season 1 Episode 28: Alex Smith (Part 2) May 12, 2023
    Show notes

    In Part 2 of this interview, Alex delves into physical abuse for refusing to say he was a Christian. He also discusses multiple instances of sexual misconduct, and he shares a very personal story that will quite possibly bring you to tears.
    This was a very heartbreaking episode and while interviewing, I personally had trouble maintaining my emotional composure.
    The music composed for this podcast came from Blaq2ba. You can contact him at:
    https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=199500549
    You can contact us at our Facebook:
    https://www.facebook.com/RyanHobbsandtheLordsRanch/

    Season 1 Episode 27: Alex Smith (Part 1) May 10, 2023
    Show notes

    This is the first of a series of interview segments in what turned out to be the longest podcast we've done to date. It's a roller coaster of emotions, violence, sexual abuse, and more. There will be more episodes to come until this entire interview is concluded.
    The music composed for this podcast came from Blaq2ba. You can contact him at:
    https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=199500549
    You can contact us at our Facebook:
    https://www.facebook.com/RyanHobbsandtheLordsRanch/

    Season 1 Episode 26: Former Clinician Who Worked at Ted Suhl's Outpatient Therapy Offices Apr 07, 2023
    Show notes

    Kelly Green worked at one of Ted Suhl's numerous Arkansas outpatient facilities as a clinician. She volunteered to share her time with us and told us about multiple ethically questionable business tactics utilized by Ted Suhl. They had marketers planted at schools and courthouses who were incentivized to bring kids into The Lord's Ranch and/or Arkansas Counseling Associates. (This was the name of their outpatient treatment offices spread throughout the state.)
    This conversation provided us with some fascinating insider information. In reading large portions of the court transcripts from Ted's fraud/bribery case, I find none of the information to be particularly surprising. The only part that truly shocks me is that they were allowed to use these business tactics at all. (But then again, I've seen them get away with worse.)
    This office was unlike any place she had worked at in the past. She worked there until the FBI's case against Ted Suhl essentially pancaked Suhl's entire psychiatric treatment operation like an M-1A1 Abrams flattening cars during the WACO standoff.
    At any rate, I also added a homework assignment for our listeners at the end of this episode. I'm hoping that this conversation will help provide insight to our listeners. And I also hope I can count on our listeners to help us answer the two questions I ask in this episode
    I hope you enjoy the conversation as much as I did. Kelly is a wealth of knowledge and I'm extremely grateful for her participation! :)
    The music composed for this podcast came from Blaq2ba. You can contact him at:
    https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=199500549
    You can contact us at our Facebook:
    https://www.facebook.com/RyanHobbsandtheLordsRanch/

    Season 1 Episode 25: The Brother of the Boy Who Died Trying to Escape The Lord’s Ranch. Feb 12, 2023
    Show notes

    On February 13, 1995, Robert Westerhoff and Christopher Chandler escaped The Lord’s Ranch in a staff vehicle after a staff member left their keys out. Robert was known for being an escape artist from facilities and he took advantage of the keys being left behind. After driving 100 miles, he fell asleep at the wheel and drove off into a large ravine. Robert died in that accident and Chris was airlifted to a hospital with a ruptured spleen. Terry Westerhoff was Roberts's younger brother. Terry wants to get the message out to everyone that The Lord's Ranch was an inadequate facility. The staff member's inexperience made them ill-prepared to properly run a residential treatment facility. But cheap labor and staff ignorance was purposely chosen over expensive tenured employees, and obeying the law.
    The music composed for this podcast came from Blaq2ba. You can contact him at:
    https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=199500549
    You can contact us at our Facebook:
    https://www.facebook.com/RyanHobbsandtheLordsRanch/

    Season 1 Episode 24: Sammi & Ryan Late Night Chat🌙 Jan 14, 2023
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    Sammi & Ryan had a late-night chat about some of their podcast controversies and various topics that dip in and out of the history of The Lord's Ranch.
    The music composed for this podcast came from Blaq2ba. You can contact him at:
    https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=199500549
    You can contact us at our Facebook:
    https://www.facebook.com/RyanHobbsandtheLordsRanch/

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