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    What It’s Like To Be… with Dan Heath

    Curious what it would be like to walk in someone else’s (work) shoes? Join New York Times bestselling author Dan Heath as he explores the world of work, one profession at a time, and interviews people who love what they do.

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    A Stadium Beer Vendor (With an Update) Nov 08, 2026
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    This episode originally aired on October 15, 2023. We've got an update at the end!

    Meeting Muhammad Ali, handling fans who are alcoholics, pouring with no foam, and dreaming about one last game with Howard Hart, who spent three decades as a stadium beer vendor.
    If you want to see Howard in action, The Washington Post put together a great video feature on him in 2014.

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    A Choreographer Nov 01, 2026
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    Sketching choreography in airport bathroom stalls, coaching Usher on exactly how to hold a strawberry, and fighting for fair pay for dancers and choreographers with Galen Hooks, a commercial dance choreographer in Los Angeles. Can you copyright a dance routine? And what does "body conscious" mean at an audition?

    LINKS & REFERENCES

    • Galen's website, Instagram, and YouTube channel
    • Watch "River" here
    • Usher's "Ruin" video, choreographed by Galen
    • Galen was nominated for a VMA for choreography for Camila Cabello's "Havana" video.

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    A Piano Tuner Oct 25, 2026
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    Listening for harmonics inside a note, dealing with awkward situations in people's homes, and chasing down nearly imperceptible flaws for world-class pianists with Peter Stumpf, a piano tuner in Pittsburgh. Why does he bite his tuning fork like a cigar? And what does it mean to "stretch an octave"?

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    A Contortionist Oct 18, 2026
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    Contorting inside a floating pool bubble, overriding her body’s false alarms while bending backward, and stretching and strengthening six days a week for a four-minute act with Lisbeth Mikoleit, a contortionist in Las Vegas. Why does she train with a mouth guard? And what’s a “triple fold”?

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    A Big Announcement Oct 13, 2026
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    A Forensic Architect Oct 06, 2026
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    Poking a finger through rotted structural columns, hunting down the water leaks behind construction defects, and keeping cool under hostile cross-examination with Jorge McCormack, a forensic architect in Florida. Why do forensic architects avoid saying the word "mold"? And what's a "Daubert motion"?

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    A Special Ed Teacher Sep 22, 2026
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    Sprawling on the floor like a starfish beside an overwhelmed teen, staging Friday prank calls to fellow teachers, and orchestrating the chaos of a self-contained classroom with Sierra Patrick, a special ed teacher in South Carolina. What does she wish people understood about nonverbal students? And what's the most valuable piece of technology in her classroom?

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    An Auctioneer Sep 08, 2026
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    Chanting bids to whip up a bidding war, shipping $750,000 of Magic: The Gathering cards by armored car, and knowing exactly when to bring the gavel down with Joe Bodnar, an auctioneer in New Jersey. How does he separate junk from treasure? And what does it mean to "break up the pool"?

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    An Infectious Disease Doctor Aug 25, 2026
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    Sleuthing through patient histories for the clue everyone else missed, asking patients about caves, scorpions, and shaman retreats, and sounding the alarm on a potential Ebola case with Dr. Boghuma Titanji, an infectious disease doctor. What annoys ID doctors about the TV show House? And which infections can she diagnose by smell?

    LINKS & REFERENCES

    • Psittacosis is a rare bacterial infection spread from birds, explained on the CDC's psittacosis page
    • A 2026 hantavirus outbreak on a cruise ship killed three passengers, per this CDC health advisory.
    • APOPO trains rats to sniff out tuberculosis in sputum samples. See how it works.
    • Listen to Death, Sex, and Money

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    A Mail Carrier Aug 11, 2026
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    Loading the mail truck before the day begins, dealing with aggressive dogs and bad weather, and keeping a neighborhood connected by showing up every day with John Ayala, a retired mail carrier in Los Angeles. How did a golf club help him deliver packages? And what does a mail carrier learn about us from our mail?

    Thanks to Mike, one of our listeners, who reached out to suggest we talk with John after reading a profile of him in the LA Times.

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