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    We Need To Talk with Paul C. Brunson

    The most powerful conversations are the ones we usually avoid. Hosted by Paul C. Brunson, We Need To Talk is a show that empowers people to have the conversations they avoid by creating a safe, supportive, and insightful space that encourages vulnerability, self-discovery, and real-world connection.

    From breakups to breakthroughs, conflict to connection, we go beyond the headlines to uncover the human experiences and relationships that define us.

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    Pop Star Caity Baser Breaks Silence on Assault: “I Was Just A Child" Aug 05, 2025
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    In this episode of We Need To Talk, viral pop star Caity Baser shares the unfiltered story behind her rise - from being booed off stage to performing in front of thousands, from childhood trauma to finding her voice through music.

    Caity opens up about growing up on a council estate in Southampton to a £50 bet that changed her life. For the first time, she speaks publicly about being assaulted at the age of 8 - how it shaped her confidence, her sense of safety, and how it impacted her relationships.

    She also shares a later experience of assault by someone she thought she could trust, and how it took years to fully understand what had happened.

    Now, through music, community, and the safety of real love, Caity is finding new ways to speak out - not just for herself, but for anyone still learning how to process what they’ve been through.

    Caity shares:

    ◽️ Why she blocked her mum - and doesn’t regret it

    ◽️ The story behind her most personal song, Weight Of You

    ◽️ How she fell in love on a music video set

    ◽️ Her journey with ADHD

    ◽️ The meaning behind the songs on her new EP


    Caity Baser, We Need To Talk.


    This episode includes discussions of sexual assault and child sexual assault. Please watch with care and find support charities here:


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    (00:00) Intro

    (02:16) Caity's Upbringing in Southampton

    (05:32) Talking About Emotions When Caity Was Growing Up

    (10:23) Caity's Brothers and Their Support of Her Music Career

    (12:55) Caity's 'Grandfather'

    (15:15) Caity's Mum and Their Relationship Dynamic

    (21:40) Caity's ADHD

    (23:33) How Caity Began Her Music Career

    (33:58) Caity's Performance at Reading and Leeds Festival

    (36:26) Why Caity's Music Is So Popular

    (39:17) Caity's Thoughts on the Music Industry Today

    (42:20) Caity on Her Current Relationship and Falling in Love

    (49:37) Shopify Ad

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    (51:53) Caity's Performance at the Capital Summertime Ball

    (54:00) Does Caity Feel Pressure Being Dubbed 'The Voice of Gen Z'?

    (56:49) The Meaning Behind the Songs on Caity's New EP

    (1:01:00) The Meaning Behind 'The Weight of You'

    (1:11:17) The Meaning Behind 'Drank You Dry'

    (1:20:17) Paul's Parting Gift for Caity

    (1:23:09) Most Memorable Conversation

    (1:26:10) Paul's Takeaways


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    I Went On Love Island For REVENGE! | We’re Talking LOVE ISLAND Jul 31, 2025
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    We’re Talking LOVE ISLAND: Three of the most unforgettable stars - Maura Higgins, Faye Winter and Megan Barton-Hanson reveal what REALLY happened on and off screen ◽️ Maura tells us why she went on the show and what happened when the cameras stopped rolling

    ◽️ Faye opens up about the moment that triggered over 25,000 complaints and how it broke her

    ◽️ Megan shares the bold decision she made before entering the villa - and how it changed everything

    This episode includes discussion about suicidal ideation. Please keep this in mind when deciding if, how, and when you’ll listen.


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    (00:00) Intro

    (01:11) Maura Higgins On Aftermath of Love Island

    (12:36) Faye Winter on Love Island's Biggest Argument

    (18:57) Megan Barton-Hanson's REAL Reason For Going On Love Island

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    Myleene Klass EXCLUSIVE: I Caught My Ex Husband Cheating At My Birthday Party! He Said I Emasculated Him Jul 29, 2025
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    In this episode of We Need To Talk, broadcaster, musician, and campaigner Myleene Klass shares the deeply personal story behind the headlines. From discovering her ex partner’s infidelity on her birthday to surviving four miscarriages, Myleene opens up about the private pain she carried for years - and the strength it took to keep moving forward.

    She reflects on the overnight fame with Hear’Say, the pressure of life in the spotlight, and the exploitation she faced behind the scenes. But through loss and hardship, Myleene transformed her grief into a powerful voice for women’s health rights, fought for legal changes, and earned an MBE for her campaigning.

    Myleene reveals:

    ◽️ The moment she caught her ex cheating with someone famous

    ◽️ Why her wedding day was filled with tears

    ◽️ How the divorce nearly broke her ◽️ The highs and lows of Hear’Say◽️ Whether there will be a Hear’Say reunion

    ◽️ Her encounter with Harvey Weinstein

    ◽️ Her painful journey through multiple miscarriages

    ◽️ How she turned grief into campaigning and earned an MBE

    ◽️ Why she finally believes in love again

    If you've ever loved, lost or felt betrayed - this conversation will stay with you.

    Myleene Klass, We Need To Talk.

    Content warning: This episode contains discussion of miscarriage and baby loss. We’ve included links to support charities below:

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    (00:00) Intro

    (02:14) Myleene's Parents and How They Met

    (05:09) Growing Up and Facing Racism in Great Yarmouth

    (09:35) Where Does Myleene's Love of Music Come From?

    (12:24) Myleene's Journey to Popstars

    (17:11) Hearsay's Catapult into Fame After Popstars Finished

    (20:45) Myleene's Experience of the 'Wild West' Music Industry

    (35:48) Myleene's Encounter with Harvey Weinstein

    (38:50) Returning to Classical Music Post-Hear'Say

    (40:53) Myleene's Experience of 'I'm a Celeb'

    (43:46) Myleene's First Brand Deal with M&S

    (48:27) Treatwell Ad

    (49:40) Tinder Ad

    (50:53) Myleene's Complicated Relationship History

    (53:31) How Myleene Met Her Ex-Husband

    (55:38) Myleene's Wedding to Her Ex-Husband

    (1:10:40) Myleene's Current Relationship

    (1:21:41) Myleene's History of Miscarriages and Her Campaigning

    (1:27:40) Myleene Getting an MBE for Her Campaigning

    (1:36:52) Most Memorable Conversation

    (1:42:23) Paul's Takeaways


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    We're Talking CHEATING: Is Once A Cheat ALWAYS A Cheat? "I Had Death Threats After Cheating" Jul 24, 2025
    Show notes

    Paul responds to the viral Coldplay concert kiss cam moment and dives into one of the most controversial topics in relationships. In this week's episode, We’re Talking: Cheating.

    We hear the unforgettable moments from guests who’ve faced infidelity in different ways:

    ◽️ Katie Price opens up about an ex’s shocking betrayal with her nanny, housekeeper and best friend - and answers the age old question: “once a cheater, always a cheater?”

    ◽️ Pete Wicks opens up about the intense aftermath of his own infidelity, from facing death threats to enduring public shaming: “I felt like a national hate figure”

    ◽️ Maura Higgins reveals how she confronted a cheating ex right before Love Island

    ◽️ Sadia Khan breaks down why people cheat and the red flags we miss


    (00:00) Intro

    (01:23) Katie Price

    (05:01) Pete Wicks

    (10:35) Maura Higgins

    (16:39) Sadia Khan


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    EXCLUSIVE Ashley Roberts On The Pussycat Dolls "The Schedule Was Insane" Jul 22, 2025
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    Ashley Roberts shares the real story behind The Pussycat Dolls, revealing the emotional and physical toll of being in one of the world’s biggest girl groups.

    She opens up about the intense pressure of the music industry, her ongoing battle with anxiety, and the personal breaking point that made her walk away from dance.

    For the first time, Ashley reflects on the gruelling schedules, behind-the-scenes struggles, and the moment she knew she had to put her wellbeing first.

    She reveals:

    ◽️ The real reason The Pussycat Dolls broke up

    ◽️ How anxiety and addiction crept in behind the scenes

    ◽️ The moment she knew she couldn’t keep performing

    ◽️ Why Strictly Come Dancing was a tribute to her dad

    ◽️ How moving to the UK helped her rebuild her identity

    ◽️ Why breathwork became a daily lifeline

    ◽️ How she navigated the stigma around her age-gap & why she’s never been happier


    Ashley Roberts, We Need To Talk.


    This episode touches on suicide so please watch with care. We’ve included links to support charities below:

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    (00:00) Intro

    (02:04) Ashley's Love of Dancing

    (03:25) Ashley's Experience of Moving to LA at 19

    (07:07) How Ashley Joined the Pussycat Dolls

    (09:58) How the Pussycat Dolls Became a Global Phenomenon

    (16:21) Paul's Favourite Pussycat Dolls Song

    (17:57) The 'Structure' of the Pussycat Dolls

    (19:28) Why the Pussycat Dolls Reunion Never Materialised

    (20:46) How Much Money the Pussycat Dolls Made According to Paul

    (22:52) The Day-to-Day of Touring with the Pussycat Dolls and Its Effect on Ashley

    (26:15) Paul Has a Pussycat Dolls-Related Surprise for Ashley

    (28:39) The Aftermath of Leaving the Pussycat Dolls

    (31:10) Falling Out of Love with Dancing Post-Pussycat Dolls

    (33:53) Ashley's Experience of 'I'm a Celeb'

    (36:51) Going on Strictly and Ashley's Changing Relationship with Dance

    (42:28) Tinder Ad

    (43:33) Ashley's Dad and His Mental Health Struggles

    (50:53) Ashley's Advice for Anyone Who's Experienced a Loss from Suicide

    (53:44) Ashley's History of Anxiety and Insomnia

    (57:53) How Did Ashley Discover Breathwork?

    (1:06:58) Ashley's New Book About Breathwork

    (1:08:06) A Message from Ashley's Mum

    (1:09:54) Ashley's Relationship History

    (1:17:03) Ashley's Current Relationship and Her Feelings Around Age-Gap Romances

    (1:23:18) Most Memorable Conversation

    (1:31:03) Paul's Takeaways


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    EXCLUSIVE Nadiya Hussain Breaks Silence on BBC Exit! The Truth About My Decade On TV Jul 15, 2025
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    Nadiya Hussain breaks her silence after being axed by the BBC, and how being the “relatable Muslim” on TV came at the cost of her voice, her identity, and her mental health. In this exclusive conversation, the Great British Bake Off winner shares the truth about her decade in TV, what really happened behind the scenes and why she could no longer stay silent.


    Known for her warmth and resilience, Nadiya reflects on what it really means to be a Muslim woman in British media - and why she now believes she was chosen to tick a box, not to be heard.

    Nadiya reveals:

    ◽️ Why she believes her BBC shows were cancelled

    ◽️ The moment she knew the TV industry had no space for her full self

    ◽️ How childhood bullying, racism, and abuse shaped her view of womanhood

    ◽️ The devastating truth behind her anxiety and panic attacks

    ◽️ Her 19-year arranged marriage and how their love grew into deep partnership

    ◽️ The “monster” she carries every day: living with lifelong anxiety

    ◽️ How faith became her anchor when nothing else made sense

    If you’ve ever felt boxed in, overlooked, or silenced - this episode is for you.

    Nadiya Hussain, We Need To Talk.


    This episode contains discussions of suicide and sexual assault. We’ve included links to support charities below:


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    (00:00) Intro

    (01:59) Nadiya's Family and Their Journey to the UK in the 1950s

    (06:51) Nadiya's Relationship to Her Parents

    (09:01) Nadiya's Favourite Memory of Her Childhood Home

    (12:43) Nadiya's Experience of Sexual Abuse as a Child

    (16:24) Nadiya's Experience of Intense Bullying at School and Suicidal Ideation

    (23:23) Nadiya's Perspective on Being a Muslim Woman

    (28:57) Mental Health Issues in the UK Muslim Community

    (34:11) Nadiya's Thoughts on Being an Ally for the Muslim Community

    (35:41) Nadiya's Arranged Marriage

    (50:28) How Nadiya Made Her Marriage Work After Limited Time Together Pre-Wedding

    (54:22) Nadiya's Journey Living with Anxiety

    (1:01:58) Tinder Ad

    (1:03:06) How Nadiya Got on to Bake Off

    (1:05:38) Nadiya's Experience of Winning Bake Off and the Aftermath

    (1:07:13) How Does It Feel to Be 'Alien'?

    (1:10:18) The Impact of Death Threats

    (1:11:55) The Positive Impact of Fame

    (1:13:30) The Speech That Nadiya Gave After Winning Bake Off

    (1:15:48) What Happened in the Aftermath of Nadiya's Win

    (1:18:44) The Negative Aspects of Working in the TV Industry

    (1:23:16) Nadiya's Experience of Making Complaints in the TV Industry

    (1:33:23) Why Did the BBC Choose to Stop Nadiya's Shows?

    (1:36:26) What the Future Holds for Nadiya

    (1:40:04) Most Memorable Conversation

    (1:45:09) Paul's Takeaways


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    Mel Robbins "The Let Them Theory Changed My Marriage!" Watch This Before Breaking Up! Jul 08, 2025
    Show notes

    This is an interview like no other. Mel Robbins opens up about overcoming crippling anxiety, undiagnosed ADHD, and childhood trauma with the life-changing 5 Second Rule. At 41, she was $800,000 in debt, unemployed, and waking up with a feeling of full-body dread every single day.


    Mel shares the one rule that became her turning point - helping her get out of bed and rebuild her life from the ground up. She opens up about how the "Let Them" theory saved her 29-year marriage, and how she faced identity struggles and mental health challenges that were holding her back.


    Now one of the most influential voices in personal growth and self-improvement, Mel reflects on the pivotal moments that shaped her journey. With over a billion video views and multiple bestselling books, Mel shares how she transformed her life and how you can do the same.


    Whether you're navigating a long-term relationship, struggling with anxiety, or simply looking to reclaim your power, this episode offers real, actionable insights for anyone ready to change their life.


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    (00:00) Intro

    (00:52) Mel's Upbringing in 1960s USA

    (09:14) Mel's Attachment Style and Childhood Trauma

    (18:49) Mel's Experience of University

    (27:08) Mel's First Legal Job and the Lessons It Taught Her

    (42:12) Shopify Ad

    (43:15) Tinder Ad

    (44:25) How Mel Met Her Husband Chris

    (52:35) How Mel's ADHD Affected Her Marriage

    (1:03:32) How the 'Let Them' Theory Helped Mel's Marriage

    (1:06:24) Indeed Ad

    (1:07:36) How Mel and Chris Navigated a Dip in Their Marriage from 2008–14

    (1:12:58) How Mel Changed Careers

    (1:16:38) The Success of Mel's 2011 TED Talk

    (1:22:19) Roles Within Mel's Marriage with Chris

    (1:28:04) A Message from Mel's Daughter

    (1:31:54) Mel's Thoughts on Motherhood

    (1:36:09) Some Parting Thoughts on the 'Let Them' Theory from Mel

    (1:43:07) Most Memorable Conversation

    (1:47:03) Paul's Takeaways


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    I Said You'll Go To Prison For This! Georgia Harrison On Ex Stephen Bear, Justice & Receiving MBE Jul 01, 2025
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    Georgia Harrison MBE joins Paul for a conversation about survival, justice, and rising above public betrayal. From her early days on TOWIE and Love Island to becoming a victim of revenge p*rn and receiving an MBE for her activism, Georgia reflects on the moments that have shaped her.

    For the first time, Georgia describes a toxic relationship she escaped, sharing what she learned and offering advice for others in similar situations.

    Georgia also tells the full story about her relationship with Stephen Bear - beyond the headlines. She reveals how she discovered he had secretly filmed and shared intimate footage of her without consent, the emotional toll of the court battle and the moment justice was finally served.

    Now in a new relationship and expecting her first child, Georgia reflects on healing, growth, and what it truly means to reclaim your power.

    Please note this conversation includes sensitive topics that may be distressing. We’ve included support charities below:

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    Survivor's Trust: https://g2ul0.app.link/yh0NrvNsvTb

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    (00:00) Intro

    (03:36) Georgia's Relationship with Essex and Essex Culture

    (06:31) How Georgia Was Cast on TOWIE

    (09:48) Georgia's Experience of Love Island

    (15:27) Paul Shows Georgia a Message From...

    (16:46) The Dark Side of Love Island and the Loss of Muggy Mike

    (20:57) Georgia's Early Toxic Relationship

    (25:46) Paul and Georgia's Thoughts on How to Prevent Domestic Violence

    (30:27) Tinder Ad

    (31:33) Love Journal Ad

    (32:14) Georgia's Experience of 'The Challenge' and Meeting Stephen Bear

    (44:22) Georgia's Account of Her Fateful Reunion with Stephen Bear

    (55:21) How Georgia Found Out About the Leaked Video

    (1:01:06) The Rulings Around Revenge P*rn

    (1:05:34) Georgia's Experience of Her Court Case Against Stephen Bear

    (1:19:05) How Georgia Helped Change the Laws Around Revenge P*rn in the UK

    (1:22:12) The Prevalence of Deepfakes on Social Media

    (1:28:26) Georgia's MBE

    (1:30:20) Georgia's Current Relationship

    (1:34:38) A Message From Georgia's Partner Jack

    (1:38:40) Georgia's Pregnancy and Thoughts on Motherhood

    (1:40:37) Paul Has a Present for Georgia...

    (1:42:14) One Final Message From Georgia's Mum

    (1:44:14) Most Memorable Conversation

    (1:46:59) Paul's Takeaways


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    He Hit Me Then Took My Car! Safiyya Vorajee Opens Up About Toxic Ex, Losing Azaylia & Truth About Relationship With Ashley Cain Jun 24, 2025
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    In this deeply moving conversation, we hear the unimaginable grief of losing a child and how it reshapes every part of your life. In this episode of We Need To Talk, Safiyya Vorajee sits down with Paul for a powerful conversation about love, loss, and survival.

    She shares the moment everything changed - when she and Ashley Cain were told their daughter Azaylia had leukemia. From the hospital diagnosis to the months that followed in survival mode, Safiyya speaks with raw honesty about watching her child fight for her life, the strength it took to carry on, and the identity loss that followed.

    Safiyya also opens up about a past toxic relationship. From love bombing to being physically assaulted, she reveals the manipulation she endured, the moment she walked away, and how she found her power again.

    This is a story of heartbreak, healing, and the fierce resilience of a mother.

    Please note this conversation includes sensitive topics that may be distressing. We’ve included support charities below:

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    (00:00) Intro

    (02:15) Safiyya's Family Growing Up

    (05:04) Safiyya's Early Problematic Relationship

    (17:31) Safiyya's Transition from Owning a Salon to Aesthetics

    (19:19) How Safiyya and Ashley Cain Got Together

    (27:08) Safiyya on Parenting and Having Azaylia with Ashley

    (37:17) Tinder Ad

    (38:19) Love Journal Ad

    (39:04) Azaylia's Illness

    (1:06:24) How Safiyya Dealt with the Grief of Azaylia's Death

    (1:10:51) How Safiyya and Ashley's Relationship Ended

    (1:22:48) Safiyya's Current Love Life

    (1:31:50) Would Safiyya Go on MAFS?

    (1:33:03) Safiyya's Current Projects

    (1:34:22) Most Memorable Conversation

    (1:41:15) Paul's Takeaways


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    The No.1 Communication Expert: Never Argue With a Narcissist! The One Word All Liars Use. This Mistake Leads to Divorce! Jun 17, 2025
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    Jefferson Fisher sits down with Paul to unpack the communication habits that can quietly make or break relationships, from texts we should never send to arguments we should never try to win.

    As a trial lawyer turned viral speaking coach, Jefferson has built a following of millions by teaching one thing: how to have hard conversations without losing yourself. He reveals the one word all liars use, how to spot a narcissist in an argument, and the subtle cues that signal whether a relationship will survive or silently collapse.

    He also explains how to master confrontation without creating conflict, and the powerful eye contact trick that can change the way we connect. This is a conversation about how to show up with confidence and strength, even when the stakes are high.


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    (00:00) Intro

    (01:46) Self Esteem and Communication

    (07:07) Preparing to Spot the Lie

    (08:47) Let Your Breath Be the First Word You Say

    (12:28) How Important Is Context to Communication?

    (14:06) How Do We Best Connect Through Conversation?

    (18:42) Never Win an Argument

    (22:34) Active Listening

    (26:47) Don't Step on Their Cry

    (29:06) The Importance of Smiling

    (33:41) Body Language and Pacing

    (38:24) How Do We Spot a Liar?

    (45:11) Indeed Ad

    (46:22) Tinder Ad

    (47:25) Temperature Checks

    (49:53) Emotional Availability in Men

    (58:52) Toxicity in Relationships

    (1:18:15) Dealing with Narcissists

    (1:24:16) Dealing with Gaslighting

    (1:29:47) How to Have Difficult Conversations

    (1:40:09) Jefferson's Conversation Demonstration

    (1:43:58) Jefferson's Parting Advice

    (1:45:26) Jefferson's Most Profound Conversation

    (1:48:50) Paul's Takeaways

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