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The VS podcast is a bi-weekly series where poets confront the ideas that move them. Hosted by poets Ajanaé Dawkins and Brittany Rogers, produced by Cin Pim/Ombie Productions, and presented by the Poetry Foundation.

Latest Episodes:

Brittany and Ajanaé vs. The Next Adventure Jan 27, 2026

Show notes

Today on VS, Brittany and Ajanaé commemorate their final VS episode by answering audience questions! Join them as they discuss their favorite VS moments, how their friendship has deepened over the course of the show, their role as curators and archivists, and looking toward the next adventure.

Writing Prompt:

Write a poem setting intentions for the next season of your life. What will you pursue even with fear? How will you love yourself and your neighbor more deeply? What dreams will you court? Who will you study? What will you revere? What, from this season, will you carry with you?

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aja monet vs. Alignment Jan 13, 2026

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Today on VS, Brittany and Ajanae record their penultimate episode with aja monet! Join them as they discuss the role of anger and passion as poets and people, identity as a type of performance, the significance of feeling the poem in the body, poetry as a spiritual practice, and navigating the language, ethics, and the care that we give to people vs. causes.

Until Next Time:

Here is some media to accompany your experience of the episode and a writing prompt to tide you over until we meet again!

Ntozake Shange - Ntozake Shange preserves Black history and culture through literature (1989 interview)
Robin D. G. Kelley - “Freedom Dreams”: Historian Robin D. G. Kelley on 20th Anniversary of His Book & Movements Mattering
Bessie Smith - How Bessie Smith Influenced A Century Of Popular Music : NPR

Writing Prompt

Consider a poem from a poet who came before you that made you feel less alone. Write an ode to the persistence of the shared emotion you both explore in your writing.

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Shaina Phenix vs. Firstborn Daughters Dec 09, 2025

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Today on VS, Brittany and Ajanae are in conversation with Shaina Phenix. Listen in as they discuss the literary universes of Black femme characters, the process of unlearning for eldest daughters, waywardness, audacity, and the ways that we learn to name and rename ourselves.

Until Next Time:

Here is some media to accompany your experience of the episode and a writing prompt to tide you over until we meet again!

Lucille Clifton - Remembering Her Memories: Lucille Clifton’s Generations in Our Time - JSTOR Daily
Lil Kim - Lil' Kim's Iconic Interview on Her Illustrious Career, The Notorious B.I.G., Women in Hip-Hop
Wanda Coleman - Wanda Coleman - Poetry.LA Interview Series

Writing Prompt

Choose a character from your favorite literary universe and write a poem where you put yourself in conversation with that character.

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Khadijah Queen vs. Intuition Nov 11, 2025

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Today on VS, Brittany and Ajanae interview Khadijah Queen. Listen in as they discuss their love for their hometowns, approaching non-linear form across genres, navigating projects with long life spans, the importance of leaning into intuition and curiosity, and revisiting past projects and eras in our writing.

Until Next Time:

Here is some media to accompany your experience of the episode and a writing prompt to tide you over until we meet again!

Fernando Pessoa - Fernando Pessoa & His Heteronyms
Lucille Clifton - Lucille Clifton talks of her books of poems, including “Good Times”
Toni Morrison - Toni Morrison: The Life of a Literary Giant | The Dig at Howard University

Writing Prompt

Revisit some of your oldest poems. Write an ode to that era of your life—that version of yourself.

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Rachel Eliza Griffiths vs. Privacy Oct 28, 2025

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On today’s episode of VS, Brittany and Ajanae interview Rachel Eliza Griffiths; join them as they discuss forthcoming projects, their evolving concepts of home and privacy, approaching photography as a poet, writing for the ones that come after us, and the importance of curiosity.

Until Next Time:

John Coltrane - A Deep Dive into John Coltrane’s ‘A Love Supreme’ by His Biographer, Lewis Porter (Pt. 1) | WBGO Jazz
Toni Morrison - Toni Morrison’s Recipe for Love, Life, and the Perfect Boiled Egg
Joan Mitchell - Four Decades of the Abstract Impressionist Joan Mitchell | Expert Voices | Sotheby’s
James Baldwin - James Baldwin at 100

Writing Prompt

Write a manifesto of commitments for the politics of loving and protecting yourself.

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VS Live! at Poetry Foundation: Cornelius Eady and Major Jackson vs. Legacy Oct 14, 2025

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On today’s episode of VS, Brittany and Ajanae have the opportunity to talk with Cornelius Eady and Major Jackson live in Chicago! Join in as they discuss the capacity to feel, the legacy of themselves and others, the importance of community, the way that boundaries and ethics shift after writing for a long time, and what things still scare them about the page.

Until Next Time:

Here is some media to accompany your experience of the episode and a writing prompt to tide you over until we meet again!

Cornelius Eady

Shreela Ray- A Manner of Attachment by Shreela Ray
Nicanor Parra- Nicanor Parra | Nicanor Parra's 107th Birthday
Frank O’hara- Frank O'Hara reading and discussing his work

Major Jackson

Phillip Levine- What Work Is
Sonia Sanchez- What does it mean to be human? | Sonia Sanchez | TEDxPhiladelphia
Derek Walcott- Derek Walcott discusses his painting and poetry

Writing Prompt:

No poems today. Create a map of the versions of yourselves that have existed during your tenure as a writer. How do their fears differ? Their joys? What excites or surprises them? What craft choices they lean toward?

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Jada Renée Allen vs. Drill Sep 30, 2025

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On today’s episode of VS, Brittany and Ajanae interviewed Jada Renée Allen. Listen in as they discuss their rabbit holes of research, “Drill” the manuscript and the music, the relationship between Black women and water, and the influences on our poetics.

Until Next Time:

Here is some media to accompany your experience of the episode and a writing prompt to tide you over until we meet again!

Alexus Rhone - Playwright Alexus Rhone on Taking God's Call and Taking Your Meds
Patricia Smith - Dear Poet 2024: Patricia Smith Reads “When the Burning Begins”
Rita Dove - Rita Dove for Fulbright World Poetry Day 2021

Writing Prompt:

Write an ode in gratitude for an artist or character who shifted the way you see yourself.

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Saúl Hernández vs. Monsters Sep 03, 2025

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Today Brittany and Ajanae have the pleasure of talking with Saúl Hernández. Listen in as they discuss writing about tense familial relationships with tenderness, the act of being made invisible, grief as transformation, childhood as a lens, and how to identify a monster (spoiler alert: it could be anyone!).

Until Next Time:

Walter Mercado - Mucho Mucho Amor: The Legend of Walter Mercado | Official Trailer | Netflix
Ethel Cain - The Intricate Storytelling of Ethel Cain’s “Preacher’s Daughter” – The Junction Journal
Toni Morrison - Toni Morrison | National Endowment for the Arts

Writing Prompt:

Write a poem that functions as a dream.

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Barbara Fant vs. Joy Aug 19, 2025

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On today’s episode of VS, Ajanae and Brittany interview Barbara Fant. Join them as they discuss the relationship between family and authenticity, the importance of intergenerational connections among poets, writing as a tool for wellness, and joy as a part of chaos.

Until Next Time:

Here is some media to accompany your experience of the episode and a writing prompt to tide you over until we meet again!

Sunni Patterson - Sunni Patterson - Letter from the Porch
Mahalia Jackson - Mahalia Jackson: Gospel Takes Flight | National Museum of African American History and Culture
Bone Thugs-n-Harmony - What Happened To '90s Hip Hop Group Bone Thugs-N-Harmony?

Writing Prompt:

Consider the last moment of chaos you found yourself in. Write an ode to a person or object that brought you joy in that moment. Consider the chaos to be the negative space around the joy, giving it shape.

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W.J. Lofton vs. Grief Aug 05, 2025

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On today’s episode of VS, Ajanae and Brittany interview W.J. Lofton. Join them as they discuss how they handle failure within their process, grief as a form of generosity, queer intimacy, spiritual expansion, and the process of unlearning harmful beliefs.