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    Volts

    Volts is a podcast about leaving fossil fuels behind. I’ve been reporting on and explaining clean-energy topics for almost 20 years, and I love talking to politicians, analysts, innovators, and activists about the latest progress in the world’s most important fight. (Volts is entirely subscriber-supported. Sign up!)

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    Latest Episodes:
    Building our piece of the electric stack Oct 23, 2026
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    Collectively, the electric stack (batteries, motors, chips, power electronics) has gotten about 99% cheaper since 1990. It is quietly remaking every machine that turns electricity into motion, heat, or work. Problem is, China makes most of it. Sam D’Amico, co-author of “The Electric Slide” and founder of Impulse Labs, is betting the US can still claim a piece of that stack. He’s starting with a battery-powered induction cooktop. We talk about why domestic manufacturing matters, what America would actually have to build to compete, and how Silicon Valley’s founder world really thinks about climate change, geoengineering included.

    Chapters:

    00:00 – Introduction

    02:52 – From VR headsets to kitchen appliances

    07:07 – How a pizza oven inspired a battery stove

    10:07 – Peak demand, at home and on the grid

    13:25 – Which appliances could use a built-in battery

    16:46 – Electric stack 1: the four technologies

    20:28 – Electric stack 2: power electronics and motors

    25:21 – China bets on hardware, the US bets on AI

    30:08 – Why not just buy it all from China?

    33:51 – Why engineers need to be near the factory

    38:39 – How much does the US need to make at home?

    45:19 – US EV policy and letting Chinese cars in

    47:49 – Batteries in appliances vs. one home battery

    52:04 – Impulse’s plan: its tech in other brands’ stoves

    55:17 – What’s next after the stove

    57:14 – Has Silicon Valley stopped caring about climate?


    Can distributed energy work around American utilities? Oct 21, 2026
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    American homes are filling up with batteries, EVs, and smart thermostats that could be coordinated to make the grid cheaper and more reliable — but almost none of them are. To understand why, it helps to watch what happens when the company best in the world at this tries to do it here. In Britain, Octopus Energy has built a giant virtual power plant out of its customers' devices. In the US, it has spent six years running into walls. Now it’s bought Uplight, which runs customer programs for 85 utilities. I talked with Nick Chaset, who runs both, about what's in the way and whether distributed energy can ever scale with US utilities … the way they are.

    Chapters:

    00:00 – Introduction

    02:02 – Octopus’s past year and the Uplight investment

    05:18 – What makes the UK market work for Octopus

    11:12 – Texas: fast growth, flattened volatility

    14:57 – Will flexibility put itself out of business?

    19:16 – Why Octopus stays out of Pennsylvania and New York

    22:17 – Does residential retail competition have a future?

    24:41 – Why utility programs trail Octopus on participation

    32:17 – The demand stack and what planners can count on

    39:11 – Kraken, Uplight and the overlap

    46:04 – Consumer protection and the aggregator model

    51:17 – Data centers and the social license to operate

    55:11 – Do we need dynamic pricing?

    58:30 – Five years out


    What’s up with Denmark? Oct 16, 2026
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    Denmark gets a large share of its power from wind and other renewables and has cut its emissions roughly in half since 1990, but independent analysts doubt it will hit its 70 percent target for 2030. Kristian Jensen, CEO of Green Power Denmark and a former Danish minister of taxation, foreign affairs, and finance, argues the next stage is electrifying how Denmark uses energy: heat, transport, and industry. I talk with him about district heating and heat pumps, EVs and vehicle-to-grid, municipally owned grid companies and hourly power prices, biomass, carbon capture, power-to-X, solar’s “fields of iron” backlash, a grid oversubscribed with data center requests (an October 1 agreement has since put most data centers at the back of the queue), and whether the country’s political consensus will hold.

    Chapters

    00:00 – Introduction: Denmark and industrial symbiosis

    02:44 – Is the 70% target for 2030 out of reach?

    06:24 – Carbon capture and storage, and the peatlands lag

    09:57 – Why electrification has lagged: biomass and wood pellets

    14:45 – Few batteries, many interconnectors

    16:48 – Data centers and the grid-connection prioritization bill

    21:34 – Municipally owned grid companies

    24:32 – Smart meters, hourly prices, and thermal batteries

    28:40 – The solar backlash and local ownership

    35:04 – Agrivoltaics and biodiversity

    37:24 – District heating: heat pumps, geothermal, and finance

    43:24 – The EV transition and vehicle-to-grid

    47:45 – Road pricing and fiscal room

    50:07 – Power-to-X and eSAF

    54:21 – Can Denmark build enough clean power?

    57:12 – Will the political consensus hold?


    Checking back in with Greenlight America Oct 14, 2026
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    On this episode, recorded live at Climate Week NYC, I talk with Matt Traldi. He’s the founder and CEO of Greenlight America, which finds the local meetings where clean energy’s fate is being decided and recruits supporters to attend. Traldi argues that siting and permitting approvals turn on who shows up, and that local partners, conservative groups included, outperform outside advocates. We discuss how to measure impact, recent wins and losses, blue-state resistance, data center backlash, and Greenlight’s growth.

    Chapters:

    00:00 – Introduction

    02:09 – What Greenlight does and why Matt started it

    04:41 – How Greenlight finds the decisions that matter

    07:27 – Growth, and the tax credit deadline sprint

    13:38 – Who shows up to local hearings

    19:39 – Winning in conservative communities

    22:35 – Bodies in the room, measuring impact, and win rates

    27:46 – Losses, wins, and “there is no bag”

    32:44 – Blue-state obstacles and organized opposition

    36:31 – When data center backlash spills over onto clean energy

    42:31 – Which projects Greenlight won’t back

    45:38 – Lessons from housing and growing an organization

    50:17 – Audience Q&A: disinformation and state permitting reform

    54:39 – Audience Q&A: developers and elections

    59:30 – Audience Q&A: funding local groups and designing community input


    What’s up with the new federal permitting reform bill? Oct 09, 2026
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    The proposed bipartisan federal permitting bill is 417 pages filled with extremely consequential provisions that have left the climate community some mix of excited, infuriated, and confused. In an attempt to bring some clarity, I asked Daniel Palken of Arnold Ventures, a veteran of Senate permitting fights, to walk through what’s in it. We cover the blockbuster transmission reforms, the rule making data centers pay more than their share of grid costs, the wins for geothermal, and the fossil carve-outs. Then we get into NEPA reforms that render the act toothless, limits on state water permits, and the permit-certainty sections that have lawyers worried about “forever permits.” And finally: whether it restrains Trump, why Democrats shouldn’t wait for a better deal, what the modeling says about emissions impacts, and Daniel’s odds of passage. This is a long one, folks. Buckle up.

    Chapters:

    00:00 – Intro: the bipartisan permitting bill

    04:15 – Why permitting reform matters

    12:23 – Agency staffing and capacity

    16:59 – Past permitting attempts

    20:26 – Transmission 1: planning and federal backstop

    28:28 – Transmission 2: who pays and grid upgrades

    38:17 – Data centers 1: paying more for grid access

    43:20 – Distributed energy and geothermal

    49:06 – Oil, gas, and mining provisions

    57:06 – Data centers 2: will they go off-grid?

    1:00:19 – NEPA 1: courts can’t halt projects

    1:08:57 – NEPA 2: the main objections

    1:17:10 – State water permits

    1:23:35 – Endangered species

    1:27:37 – Permit certainty 1: limits on revoking permits

    1:36:43 – Permit certainty 2: lawsuits and damages

    1:48:12 – Politics 1: Trump’s wind blockades

    1:52:57 – Politics 2: why not wait for a better deal?

    1:58:33 – Politics 3: elections, courts, and modeling

    2:10:57 – Politics 4: next steps and odds of passage


    The grueling fight to pass the Inflation Reduction Act Oct 07, 2026
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    On September 14, I sat down with Leah Stokes in front of a live audience at Seattle’s Town Hall to talk about her new book, The Carbon Wave. It’s an insider account of how the Inflation Reduction Act got made, braided with the story of the high-risk twin pregnancy she went through while helping to make it. We get into why electrification is the heart of decarbonization, the enduring mystery of what’s going on in Joe Manchin’s head, what it means to trade your carbon footprint for a carbon wave, and how much of the IRA survives. It was followed by questions from the audience.

    Chapters:

    00:00 – Welcome and housekeeping

    03:05 – The twins, the NICU, and writing the book

    08:51 – Carbon footprint vs. carbon wave

    13:39 – Sam Ricketts and 100% clean electricity

    18:13 – Why electricity is the core of the solution

    23:28 – Utilities and the politics of change

    26:18 – Tech companies and data centers

    29:11 – Inside the Manchin negotiations

    33:57 – Why Manchin got to yes

    38:46 – Trump, setbacks, and where things stand

    42:55 – Clean energy politics and the global shift

    46:25 – Audience Q&A: the transmission gridlock

    48:59 – Institutions, speed, and structural reform

    53:27 – If Democrats win the House, what next

    55:43 – Permitting reform

    59:06 – State utilities, coal, and getting involved


    Best of September 2026 Oct 02, 2026
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    Volts published seven conversations in September, which is a lot for anyone to listen to. We’ve rounded up the highlights into less than an hour. Enjoy!


    What’s up with heat-pump water heaters? Sep 30, 2026
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    Heat pump water heaters use a fraction of the energy of conventional electric resistance heaters — which use more electricity in a year than an EV — but they're only 2 percent of the market, mainly because they tend to cost more, be slow and loud, and require a plumber and an electrician. Reservoir is a Boston company trying to fix all that, with a smarter, quieter machine and its own plumbers. I talk with CEO Luke Winston-Almanzar about how it works, what it costs, and its potential role in demand response programs.

    Chapters:

    00:00 – Introduction

    03:06 – Why water heaters

    06:34 – How gas, resistance, and heat pump water heaters work

    09:33 – Size and slow recovery: predictive heating and party mode

    15:31 – Installation and vertical integration

    22:19 – Cutting electric resistance backup

    20:31 – What Reservoir builds and what it sources

    23:41 – Tankless gas, virtual capacity, and the booster heater

    27:11 – Recirculation, freeze protection, leak detection, and Legionella

    32:03 – What it costs and what it saves

    36:01 – Placement: small rooms, basements, and cold climates

    42:37 – Noise and durability

    48:19 – Demand response and virtual power plants

    53:22 – A. O. Smith’s CO2 split system and Reservoir’s moat

    55:54 – Policy headwinds after the IRA

    59:29 – What’s next for Reservoir


    Do small residential batteries make sense? Sep 23, 2026
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    Home batteries like the Tesla Powerwall are nice, but what about people who can’t afford them, or renters who aren’t allowed to install them, or people who just don’t want the hassle of dealing with a permit and an electrician? A company called Pila is selling small (1.6 kWh) batteries that simply plug into a normal electrical socket. They can serve as backup for a refrigerator or other appliance in the event of a blackout, but they can also “mesh” with one another to form a network, pair with rooftop solar, or participate in VPP programs. CEO Cole Ashman explains the value proposition.

    Chapters:

    00:00 Introduction

    02:26 Lessons from Powerwall and Span

    05:33 What Pila is and how it works

    07:14 How long a fridge runs on one battery

    09:28 Fire risk, LFP chemistry, and New York City

    16:02 Why the price went up, and cost per kilowatt hour

    19:55 Who is actually buying Pila

    23:00 Financing models and free batteries

    27:04 Do the bill savings add up?

    32:05 Why utilities want small batteries in VPPs

    36:58 Pilots with Holy Cross Energy and Brooklyn SolarWorks

    41:09 Solar pairing and the Pila mesh network

    47:14 Camping batteries and built-in storage

    54:19 Utilities and visibility at the grid edge

    55:58 Bidirectional outlets and the next five years

    1:00:10 Clean energy as invisible infrastructure


    How energy politics work inside DC Sep 18, 2026
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    Back in 2011, I wrote that fossil fuel interests had a much better media game than clean energy. My example was Frank Maisano, a media relations guy for coal utilities and the natural gas industry. Thirty years on, he’s still at it — still writing his newsletter, still connecting reporters to sources, still better at it than anyone on the clean side (sigh). So I’m finally talking to him about it: clean energy trade groups nobody in Washington fears, Trump’s daft efforts to kill renewables, the PAC picking off dirty-energy Republicans, permitting and data center fights, and the climate denial shop he worked for in the ‘90s. Spoiler: he regrets nothing.

    Chapters:

    00:00 – Introduction

    03:46 – What a DC media strategist actually does

    09:50 – Republicans, Trump, and a narrow House majority

    15:29 – Why tax cuts beat energy in the OBBBA fight

    18:54 – Competing with China on AI without the electric stack

    21:15 – Paying $4 billion to hand back offshore wind leases

    28:07 – Red-state wind and the orders keeping coal plants open

    32:52 – Clean energy trade groups and the building trades

    38:41 – Gas as a bridge, and what longer term means

    44:55 – Whether a half-gas trade group can serve clean energy

    48:43 – A coherent clean vision against an incoherent coalition

    51:14 – Do the green groups still scare anyone

    55:18 – Permitting reform and the Whitehouse-Capito path

    59:46 – Data centers, animal spirits, and the midterms

    1:06:48 – The revenge PAC, and whether it is working

    1:12:31 – Congress, the courts, and what Democrats could do

    1:18:53 – COP, climate change, and the client he would turn down


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