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    Unstoppable Body and Mind

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    Episode #70- Mindfulness and Pain Jul 05, 2021
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    In this episode, I talk about how more mindful people are less likely to pain catastrophize. Which means, they will create less pain from their brain. (Last Episode #69 I talked all about how fear causes the brain to PRODUCE more pain that you feel in the body- The Pain-Fear-Pain Cycle).

    This week we dive into understanding mindfulness more by how they measure mindfulness in research.

    Here are some statements reflecting low mindfulness:

    *I could be experiencing some emotion and not be conscious of it until some time later.

    *I break or spill things because of carelessness, not paying attention, or thinking of something else.

    *I find it difficult to stay focused on what’s happening in the present.

    *I tend to walk quickly to get where I’m going without paying attention to what I experience along the way.

    *I tend not to notice feelings of physical tension or discomfort until they really grab my attention.

    *I forget a person’s name almost as soon as I’ve been told it for the first time.

    Here are some statements reflecting more mindfulness:

    *I think before reacting under stressful situations.

    *I can calm down soon after experiencing distressing thoughts and impulses.

    *I can describe my feelings well.

    *I can perceive emotions without reacting to them.

    *I am aware of the bodily sensations when I take a bath.

    *I can easily talk about my thoughts and opinions.

    *I can watch my feelings without getting attached to them.

    Listen to find out more about how your thoughts affect your pain!

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    Episode #70- Mindfulness and Pain

    This is Betsy Jensen, and you are listening to Unstoppable Body and Mind, Episode 70, Mindfulness and Pain. In this podcast, we learn to upgrade our brain and understand the power of our thoughts, to heal and to create the results we want in our life. Become the person in control of your healing and make peace with your life.

    Become Unstoppable Body and Mind. Hello, my loves. Today, we are going to talk about the relationship between mindfulness and pain.

    But first, I would like to ask if any of you have been enjoying this podcast and haven't yet gone over to iTunes to give it a rating and review. Please look in the show notes. You can follow the link there, and you can just write a few sentences or what you like about the podcast.

    Give it a five-star rating, and that will help the podcast be found by more people and get the message out. I have about 300 or 400 downloads per week. So I know you guys are listening.

    There's only about 57 reviews. So those of you that haven't done it yet, it would be really awesome. I'd appreciate it.

    And with that being said, let's go ahead and move on to this topic. I've been super excited to learn more about. As I started to do research, I've been learning about what I talked about last week, the pain-fear pain cycle, and how having the reaction of fear to the pain signal will actually amplify the not only perception, but the production of more pain by the brain.

    So what they've also found is that people who have more mindfulness, if they're more mindful, they have less pain catastrophizing. So pain catastrophizing I talked about last week. It's one way of looking at how fearful a person is about their pain, how they're perceiving it, how they're thinking about it.

    So when people have more pain catastrophizing, that correlates with higher pain, more chances that they'll have a new acute pain, more chances that their acute pain will turn chronic, and even high catastrophizing before surgery predicts longer outcomes and a more difficult recovery. So it's important to look at these kinds of statements that people may think are just true and may say and realize that pain actually is influence by the way we're thinking and talking about our pain. So I want to talk a little bit more about mindfulness and its relation to pain.

    People who score as more mindful have less pain intensity, less negative affect, less pain catastrophizing, less pain-related fear, less pain hypervigilance, and less functional disability. So in general, people who are more mindful have less pain. Now, in understanding mindfulness, I found a couple of scales that they use to measure mindfulness, and I'm going to read some of the statements so that you can see if you strongly resonate with some of them or if they're things that you don't think very often.

    Just see if they seem familiar to you. They did a lot to me. So here are some statements from the mindfulness scale.

    See if you agree with them a lot or just a little. I could be experiencing some emotion and not be conscious of it until sometime later. I break or spill things because of carelessness, not paying attention or thinking of something else.

    I find it difficult to stay focused on what's happening in the present. I tend to walk quickly to get where I'm going without paying attention to what I experience along the way. I tend not to notice feelings of physical tension or discomfort unless they really grab my attention.

    I forget a person's name almost as soon as I've been told it for the first time. Oh my gosh, that one. All of them so far, but especially that one.

    It seems I'm running on automatic without much awareness of what I'm doing. I rush through activities without being really attentive to them. I get so focused on the goal I want to achieve that I lose touch with what I'm doing right now to get there.

    I do jobs or tasks automatically without being aware of what I'm doing. I find myself listening to someone with one ear doing something else at the same time. I drive places on automatic pilot and then wonder why I went there.

    I find myself preoccupied with the future or the past. I find myself doing things without paying attention. I snack without being aware that I'm eating.

    Okay, so do any of those sound like things that describe you sometimes or a lot? That could show that you're not being mindful. I'm talking especially to all those people with chronic pain and disease that, like me, are probably perfectionistic, have a harsh inner critic, people pleasers, want to be good all the time.

    So if you find yourself resonating with some of these things, first of all, know that I did with most of them, except for where I drive. Usually I know why I went there. But anyway, this is for your information, and especially just realizing this correlation between mindfulness and pain might not have been something that you've ever been told before or ever known before.

    I know that definitely I didn't know about it until I started doing some research. So the other way that they measure mindfulness in a lot of the studies is with the FFMQ, which is the five facet mindfulness questionnaire. And I think this helps understanding what mindfulness is to look at how they measure it.

    The five facets that they measure of mindfulness in this questionnaire are observation, which is the way we use our sensory awareness. So what we see or feel or perceive internally and externally, kind of what we focus on. Description, the way we label our experiences of the world, how we express them in words.

    Aware actions, which is how we handle a stressful situation. Do we act out of quick judgment or we get out of autopilot quickly? The fourth facet is non-judgmental inner experience.

    So that's the inner critic, not letting the inner critic take a toll on our happiness. This happens with self-acceptance and self-compassion. The last facet is non-reactivity.

    So detachment from negative thoughts and emotions so we can accept their existence and choose not to react to them. Non-reactivity makes way for emotional resilience and restores mental balance. So these are the five facets of mindfulness that they measure.

    And I want to read the statements from this questionnaire and again, see how you relate to some of these statements. See if any of them stand out to you and see if you're surprised by any of them. I know that I was.

    So first, I'm going to read the statements that suggest less mindfulness. So something that if you're not as mindful, you might find yourself saying, I criticize myself for having irrational emotions and thoughts. How many of you do that?

    I know that's very common with me and the people that I coach. We have irrational emotions and thoughts. We criticize ourselves, a lot of us.

    But someone who's more mindful and compassionate towards themselves would not do that. I judge my thoughts as good or bad. I find it difficult to sustain focus.

    I don't pay attention to my work as I'm busy daydreaming most of the time. I find it hard to express what I feel and easily distracted. I'm aware that some of my thoughts are not normal, and I know that I shouldn't feel that way.

    This is low mindfulness. I find it difficult to describe my body sensations in words. I sometimes feel that I'm not in complete awareness of myself.

    So did you find yourself agreeing with some of those statements? Which ones did you agree with strongly or less strongly? So as far as the statements that suggest more mindfulness, I'll read you those now.

    While walking, I'm aware of the sensations in my body. I can describe my feelings well. I can perceive emotions without reacting to them.

    I'm aware of the bodily sensations when I take a bath. I can easily talk about my thoughts and opinions. I can watch my feelings without getting attached to them.

    I can feel how eating and drinking affect my body and mind. I can feel pure sensations like the wind or the sunlight touching my skin. I step back when I catch myself thinking something negative or distressing.

    I can pay attention to the clock ticking, birds chirping, and cars passing. I think before reacting under stressful situations. I can calm down soon after experiencing distressing thoughts and impulses.

    So here you can see what more of mindfulness might look like, being aware of how the body feels. And I would just say, you know, this isn't geared towards people in chronic pain necessarily, but the pendulum can swing a little far the other way when you're in chronic pain. So be aware if you're very, very hyper aware, hyper vigilant of your body sensations and reacting with fear.

    That's not exactly what it's talking about. Maybe are you sensitive to any pleasant sensations in your body? That could be something to work towards.

    If you're focusing more on negative sensations, because that's what you have a lot of. Do you notice how when there were emotions, there was not judgment about them? When there were stressful situations, the person is more able to think about what's going on, detach themselves from the reaction.

    There's more emotional resilience. I think of mindfulness as being in the present moment. If you are focusing on something in your body, especially in a pleasant or neutral way, you are in the present moment.

    That's why the breathing can be such a tool. If you are focusing on the breath, then you can't be thinking about the past or worrying about something in the future. I hope I gave you some things to think about this week with your relationship between mindfulness, being present, experiencing your sensations, and what you're experiencing with your sensation of pain.

    Next week, I'm going to be talking about strategies to increase your mindfulness, which will help with decreasing pain. Be sure and get on my email list if you're not already. I'll be sending out Fun Fact Friday weekly research articles relating to healing and the power of thoughts.

    And as well, I'll be telling you where I'll be going live and any events coming up. So go ahead and check out my website, bodyandmindlifecoach.com, if you want information or to get on my mailing list. All right, you guys, have a great week.

    Bye. Thank you so much for listening. I hope you learned a little bit about your brain today that helps you in your life like it helped me.

    Please be sure and subscribe and leave a review. And of course, be sure and share this podcast with someone you know that wants an Unstoppable Body and Mind.


    Episode #69- The Pain-Fear-Pain Cycle Jun 28, 2021
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    This episode is all about how fear of pain causes the brain to CREATE more pain- the Pain-Fear-Pain Cycle.

    The way you recover from pain depends on how you respond to pain signals in your body.

    Many people with chronic pain tend to "catastrophize", or attach greater meaning or significance to pain. There are also physiologic changes in the brain, making chronic pain sufferers more hypersensitive to perceived threats.

    These things actually cause the brain to create more pain signals. Real pain that is felt in the body.

    How you react to pain makes a difference, so listen today and see how you can learn to rewire your brain!

    For fresh content on healing chronic pain or disease, follow Betsy

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    Unstoppable Body and Mind Podcast Transcripts- Episode #69- The Pain-Fear-Pain Cycle:

    “This is Betsy Jensen, and you are listening to Unstoppable Body and Mind, episode number 69, The Pain, Fear, Pain Cycle. In this podcast, we learned to upgrade our brain and understand the power of our thoughts, to heal and to create the results we want in our life. Become the person in control of your healing and make peace with your life.

    Become Unstoppable Body and Mind. Hello, my loves. Today, we are going to talk about how when you react to pain with fear, it actually ends up producing more pain.

    Now, if you've just tried listening to this podcast and want to watch it, I am going to be including some pictures and a diagram. So you can watch this podcast with video on Instagram, Facebook, or YouTube. Look for me, Body and Mind Life Coach.

    Okay, so we're going to talk about how fear produces pain. And I like to start with this story about a construction worker who stepped on a nail that went completely through his boot. This is where I'll be showing you a picture.

    The nail completely impaled through his boot, and he was in severe pain. He was rushed to the hospital, they gave him morphine, and then they cut off the boot and saw that the nail had completely missed his tissue. It had gone through that space in the toes and had actually not gone through his foot at all.

    But the pain that his brain created was real pain. His brain, just like all of ours, did his best to interpret the signals from the environment, and his brain perceived that as dangerous. So pain is in essence an alarm signal, a danger signal.

    Any kind of alarm or danger signal perceived in this area of the brain can cause the brain to create pain, real pain, that is felt in the body. Now, in his case, the danger signal was that there was potential injury, that there was a nail through his boot and supposedly his foot. So to stop what he's doing, to remedy the situation, to take care of it, to rest.

    But we do know that these alarm signals, these danger signals, can be created from a number of different reasons, including emotions and what we're talking about today, fear. So fear can actually be a danger signal that causes the brain to produce more pain. So just thinking of how your body reacts when you're in fear, you might think of like tightening, you know, kind of hunching over with drawing.

    That made sense to me as a physical therapist that the chronic tightness of your muscles is actually going to lead to more pain. I would see this with people who had been in a car accident, for example, and their neck was moved quickly and forcefully, and the muscles around tried to protect by tightening up. Unfortunately, the tightening would cause pain, and then the patient that I would see would be in more pain, which would cause the muscles to tighten up, kind of this vicious cycle.

    There is research showing that people that have more fear about pain also report higher perceptions of pain. So your brain becomes hypersensitized when you have chronic pain. It's almost like the brain is always on the lookout for pain- what might happen, and more and more of your brain becomes focused on pain.

    The prevention of pain, the avoidance of pain, the fear of pain, and pain starts to consume people's lives. So the brain activity of people who have chronic pain is more active when there is some kind of stimulus. And that could even be a sound that you don't like, like nails on a chalkboard.

    People with chronic pain, their brain is more active when they hear something that's unpleasant. It's like their brain is always on guard and hypervigilant for anything that could be perceived as a danger. The perception of pain can be higher with fear.

    There was a study where people were given a mild electric shock, and when fearful words or words that were pain-related were said before the shock was given, people did respond with higher perception of pain than they did if the words were just neutral words or even negative words that were not pain-related. And then there has also been a lot of research done showing that the brain actually produces more pain in response to the emotion of fear. One measure of fear that they talk a lot about in pain research is called catastrophizing.

    So catastrophizing is something that happens quite normally with people when they've been enduring pain for some time. They tend to magnify or exaggerate the perceived threat or seriousness of pain. There's a lot of pain-related warrior fear and difficulty diverting your attention from the pain.

    In research, they'll sometimes group people who are high catastrophizing or they tend to have more of these catastrophizing qualities versus low catastrophizing people. And what they've found is that people who rank higher with catastrophizing also have increased risk of future back pain. People who catastrophized more before surgery were more likely to have post-operative pain and a longer recovery time.

    People who catastrophize have a higher risk of their acute pain turning into chronic pain. After whiplash in one study, catastrophizing and fear of movement were significant predictors of both disability and depression. And catastrophizing has been shown to increase people's risks of new acute pain.

    Now I'm going to read to you what some of these statements might sound like so you can identify how much you might be catastrophizing. This is from a measurement tool called the Pain Catastrophizing Scale.

    And you would rate your response from zero being not at all to four being all of the time.

    So think about these statements as I read them. Are these things that run through your head? I worry all the time about whether the pain will end.

    I feel like I can't go on. It's terrible, and I think it's never going to get any better. It's awful, and I feel that it overwhelms me.

    I feel I can't stand it anymore. I'm afraid the pain will get worse. I keep thinking of other painful events.

    I anxiously want the pain to go away. I can't seem to keep it out of my mind. I keep thinking about how much it hurts.

    I keep thinking about how badly I want the pain to stop. There's nothing I can do to reduce the intensity of the pain. I wonder whether something serious may happen.

    So you can see there are elements of worry about the future, fear, hopelessness, and all of these sentiments and thoughts are predictors that you will have more and more pain. People are more likely to catastrophize their pain if they've seen a parent or a loved one that suffered with chronic pain or illness or health conditions. And we're going to talk a lot next episode about how mindfulness actually helps decrease pain catastrophizing.

    Remember the number one way to rewire your brain to produce less pain is when you have the pain signal to react with neutrality, with calm, and actually with a feeling of safety in your body, a visceral somatic feeling that you are safe.

    And this sends the message back to your brain that it does not need to worry about this and continue to produce pain.

    Now, if you've heard me talk about the thought model we use in coaching, we know that the feelings of fear that we have are coming from our thoughts and beliefs. The fear is not coming from the pain signal in the body itself. We know this because people react very differently to pain signals that they receive. When you have a pain signal, that would be like the circumstance.

    A circumstance is just something that happens in reality. So there's a pain signal. And then what's causing the fear is not the pain signal itself, it's the way of thinking about the pain signal, the way you're interpreting it.

    So maybe you have a belief that there is some damage, and maybe you've been told that there is damage, and you have a diagnosis. And so when you feel that pain signal, you might even imagine the degeneration or the nerve or the area that they've told you was torn, and you might be thinking of that and creating more meaning behind that pain signal. And we know from neuroscience, the way we react to pain determines if the pain signal will be amplified or minimized.

    There's one chart I want to share with you. If you're listening on the podcast, I'll try to include it in the show notes, at least on my website. I'll email it out if you're on my email list, and I did post it in my social media today.

    I'm going to describe it as best I can if you're just listening, but look for that figure if it doesn't make sense. Basically, when you have a stimulus of pain, there's a pain experience. And then the chart splits.

    It could go one of two ways. If you go to the side where there's a fear of pain, it could lead to avoidance of activity. That leads to disuse, disability, depression, and loops back around to the pain experience again in this cycle where the pain and fear of pain increase the pain experience itself.

    On the other hand, when you have the pain experience and you do not react with fear, then there is confrontation and recovery. Confrontation is the period of time where your brain is learning that this pain is not dangerous, maybe the movements that you're thinking are dangerous are not as bad as you think. It's basically showing your brain that it's okay, which teaches it not to continue, to look for the pain, and not to continue to create the pain.

    When the pain is experienced and goes down the route of no fear, then that is what leads to recovery. Now, I want to bring this up to you because it is very important to understand how much your fear is relating to the pain that you are feeling. Now, if you are in a lot of current pain, this may seem difficult to just not have fear.

    And there are some specific strategies I talk a lot about on my podcast. And if you're struggling with your belief that this is a structural issue that's causing pain, then you should get on a free 60-minute call with me, and we can go through your specific case and really evaluate in your situation if this is work that will help you. All right, my loves, have a great week.

    Bye. Thank you so much for listening. I hope you learned a little bit about your brain today that helps you in your life like it helped me.

    Please be sure and subscribe and leave a review. And of course, be sure and share this podcast with someone you know that wants an unstoppable body and mind."


    Episode #68- Therapy vs. Coaching Jun 14, 2021
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    Do you know how therapy and coaching are different?

    In this episode I tell you what therapy and coaching have in common, what their focuses are, and how to determine if therapy or coaching is for you!

    For fresh content on healing chronic pain or disease, follow Betsy

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    Website https://bodyandmindlifecoach.com

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    Episode #67- Words Matter Jun 07, 2021
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    In this episode I talk all about the importance of the words you use!

    Inspired today by this quote by Bruce Lee,

    “Don’t speak negatively about yourself, even as a joke. Your body is energy and casts spells, that is why it is called spelling. Change the way you speak about yourself, and you can change your life. What you’re not changing, you are also choosing.”

    We can see how words matter with the placebo effect and how pain is interpreted. There is also power in the words we use to describe ourselves, and limiting beliefs we might have.

    Words matter when we talk about our mind, our age, and with pain.

    Listen to find out more!

    For fresh content on healing chronic pain or disease, follow Betsy

    on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/bodyandmindlifecoach/

    Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvXZSYYGL2cfJl-oEOzqspA

    Website https://bodyandmindlifecoach.com

    *Free Nervous System Modules- 4 free videos explaining the nervous system, how it affects your health, and how to regulate it https://view.flodesk.com/pages/620ffa96e0eda1a0d870b5a6

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    Episode #66-You Are Safe Meditation May 31, 2021
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    This week I give you a short meditation that you can use to increase the feeling of safety in your body.

    When you are feeling stressed, anxiety or chronic pain, you are essentially in fight or flight. In this meditation, I help you find the PARASYMPATHETIC state of rest and repair (where your body can heal).

    Feeling safe in your body is the number one way to rewire the brain and nervous system to generate less pain. This meditation will help you find a safe place mentally, and create the feeling of safety in the body.

    Try and re-create this feeing of safety in your body and mind throughout the day, maybe hundreds of times. You can do this "micro-relaxation" 200-300 times a day to retrain your brain.

    For fresh content on healing chronic pain or disease, follow Betsy

    on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/bodyandmindlifecoach/

    Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvXZSYYGL2cfJl-oEOzqspA

    Website https://bodyandmindlifecoach.com

    *Free Nervous System Modules- 4 free videos explaining the nervous system, how it affects your health, and how to regulate it https://view.flodesk.com/pages/620ffa96e0eda1a0d870b5a6

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    Episode # 65- Interview with Dr. Howard Schubiner May 24, 2021
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    Today’s episode is not to be missed! I interview Dr. Howard Schubiner- a Pioneer, Researcher and Leader in Mind-Body Medicine. Howard is such a kind and sweet person, and explains pain and neural circuits in a compassionate, scientific, and easy to understand way. He has developed a protocol for diagnosing neural circuit pain (also called neuroplastic pain, neurogenic pain, TMS, Mind-body Syndrome). And he trains medical professionals to unlearn what they have been taught, and become aware of the role the brain plays in generating pain. Today’s episode covers understanding the brain’s role in pain, and how to tell if your pain is a neural circuit disorder. If you have not yet given my podcast a rating or review, PLEASE do that here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-unstoppable-body-and-minds-podcast/id1493360543 Join the Body and Mind Life Coach Facebook Group here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/231187234912768 You can find the video of this interview with subtitles there! And this is where I'll be live each week to coach and answer questions! If you haven't yet seen Dr Schubiner's YouTube videos explaining pain, check out #1 here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSgnFIJKY08&t=242s Transcript- Automatically generated: This is Betsy Jensen, and you are listening to Unstoppable Body and Mind, Episode 65, Interview with Dr. Howard Schubiner. In this podcast, we learned to upgrade our brain and understand the power of our thoughts, to heal and to create the results we want in our life. Become the person in control of your healing and make peace with your life.Become Unstoppable Body and Mind. Hello, my loves. I have Dr. Howard Schubiner on the program today, which is very awesome.Hey, Howard.Hello.Welcome. And Dr. Schubiner, Howard, he lets us call him, is a pioneer in the mind-body world. You got started working with John Sarno, right?Back in the day, a bit.So he's been in the mind-body field for a long time and done a lot of research, currently a professor at Michigan State and has written Unlearn Your Pain, a 28-day process to reprogram your brain and then also unlearn your anxiety and depression. I attended the virtual retreat that you did a couple months ago, and it was for medical professionals to help us understand neural circuit pain, which is either you could call it neurogenic or neuroplastic or TMS or mind-body. And it really, the way that you presented, first of all, how you describe pain, I think is awesome.And then the criterion you have for determining if something is neural circuit or not, I found so helpful. So maybe we could start by you describing pain, how you would to a patient that comes with you with back pain or something.Yeah, that's a good place to start. And that's what I do with all my patients. And what I say is that you can't understand pain unless you understand how the brain works.And then I say, well, the brain works by something called predictive coding. Our brains are designed to keep us safe. And so our brains have these mechanisms for balancing our salt and water intake and keeping us upright and balanced and everything.But our brain also has this really important danger signal. And if it feels we're in danger, it's going to alert us and alarm us to keep us safe. And that's been going on for hundreds of thousands of years.It's really good at it. So our brain, and that's one thing. And the second thing is our brain actually generates what we experience.So we don't see with our eyes, which seems odd. We see with our brain. We see the visual cortex.Light comes in our eyes, but we don't see anything unless our brain interprets that light and creates the image. And sometimes the images that our brain creates are not what our eyes are actually seeing.And we even have that spot where the optic nerve connects, that we don't actually have vision, but our brain just fills it in, the blind spot.That's a great, great point. And with hearing, our ear, our brain creates what we actually hear. And sometimes we hear stuff that's not there.How many people have heard their name called when someone wasn't calling their name? And what we feel, how many times have people felt their cell phone vibrating in their pocket when it actually wasn't? And so our brain creates what we experience.And if our brain feels we're in danger, it's going to create something to alarm us and alert us. And our brain has this very interesting quirk that a physical injury can activate pain, but an emotional injury can activate the exact same pain. And the pain is the same because all pain is generated by the brain.And you can have an injury and not have pain because pain is a decision that the brain makes. So once people understand that, then we can begin to understand, we can begin to explore with them and investigate their situation. And if their brain is creating pain or if their body is generating pain signals or dangerous signals in the body, or if it's a combination of the two.Yeah, so understanding the brain is so important with pain. All pain is real pain, I've heard you say, and all pain is created in the brain. Even if you have a cut finger, the pain is created in the brain.Correct. Like you say, all pain is real.And all pain is real.So people who have who have pain are not crazy. It's not their fault. It's not because they want the pain.It's not because they're weak. It's because their brain is generating pain. And why would the brain generate pain?Well, the brain generates pain because it's afraid of something. There's some fear that's going on, something that started the pain in the first place. Maybe it started with an injury.So the brain was afraid. And the message was rest and get a cast on your arm or whatever. But sometimes if there's an emotional injury at the same time as the physical injury, the danger signal in the brain doesn't turn off when the injury heals.So the pain continues and people get the impression, sometimes doctors also get the impression, that the injury didn't heal when in fact the injury did heal because all injuries heal. But the neural circuits causing the pain become persistent. And then people begin to not only, their brain might be afraid of some emotional issue in their life, but maybe the emotional issue in their life passes, and that's not an ongoing problem.Now the person with pain begins to be afraid of the pain itself. Worried about the pain, frustrated about the pain, focusing on the pain and all of that gives feedback to the brain, that yeah, there's something wrong here, which makes the brain feel more in danger, which makes the pain continue or get worse over time or spread over time.Yeah, and most people go to their doctor and try to find out what is going on at that site, right? Like if it's their back, they would probably have an x-ray or MRI, and if they find some structural damage, then they have even more evidence, you know, evidence that that's what's causing their pain. But maybe we should talk a little bit about the structural damage and whether that actually causes pain or not, as you said, with injuries that have healed.Right. Well, structural damage can certainly trigger pain, but a lot of people have abnormalities on an x-ray or MRI and not have structural damage. And this is a little bit hard for people to understand.It's hard for doctors to understand. There was a recent study where they read people's MRIs of their back in two ways. Half the people got the normal reading, which emphasized all the things that were wrong, and the other half of the people got the enlightened reading, which said, look, a lot of people have these, what Dr. Sarno used to call normal abnormalities.They have these variations that are due to normal aging. And so bulging disc, facet issues, degenerative disc, all those things are common in people starting in their 30s, 20s and 30s even, and they rise with age, and 80, 90% of people in their 50s and 60s have these, who have no pain. And so these findings are not the cause of pain.An MRI can show something wrong, like an abscess, a tumor, a fracture. It can show an inflammatory condition, like ankylosing spondylitis. It can show a severely huge bulging disc, herniated disc, that is actually pressing on the nerve.That can happen. But the vast majority of people with back pain don't have any of those things.Yeah, they have the normal aging process related abnormalities. Just like you might have wrinkles on your face or gray hairs.Wait a minute.People might.What are you talking about here?I mean, I don't ever have to cover my gray hair, but...I always say gray hair doesn't hurt. It's normal.Unless it's emotionally.When you look in the mirror, it can hurt.And that's just a great example of our society and how the way that we interpret the changes in our body makes a difference in how we feel.I always say that aging, I always say that getting older is inevitable. But aging is a state of mind. So we try to.Yeah, I believe that. I feel a lot younger than people, some in their 30s that are saying, Oh, getting older, my back's always hurting, you know. Like you're 30.What?Yeah, so definitely, I think understanding that structural changes are just normal, and that's not the cause of pain, is so huge, and it's this predictive coding. But what if it's something that just happens, like someone threw their back out? How often is that something structural versus this predictive coding showing up someplace new?Well, people do get injured, and you can injure yourself by a sudden twist or turn. You can injure yourself by overdoing it. But those injuries are quite mild.These are soft tissue injuries, and all injuries heal. So a fracture bone heals in six weeks, usually, maybe eight weeks. But a soft tissue injury, like an ankle sprain or a pulled back, is going to heal in a matter of days, a matter of a few weeks at most.And so what we need to realize is that if the pain persists after the normal healing timeframe, then we have to think, well, it's not just the injury that we're dealing with here.Yeah, and I think I've heard you say, I think in the conference, you did say something like most acute pain can be a neural circuit pain.Well, sure. I mean, a lot of times we get a headache. If we have a stressful day, that's a neural circuit pain.You get a stomach ache if you're worried about something. You can get a neck ache again if you know something's going on at work or something's going on in your family. These are acute pains, but they're neural circuit pains because you didn't injure, you didn't actually injure yourself.It's easy to figure that out, but it's only easy to figure it out if you're aware of the possibility. Most people are not really aware of the possibility that a neck ache would be caused by stress, as opposed to eye strain or how I'm holding my head or how I slept or things like that.Yeah, I do. I've seen that a lot with physical therapy, too. People have the expectation that it was because of something they did, how they moved, doing too much.I hear that a lot. Some of the things you said that were interesting to me, as far as things that are not typically causing pain would even include certain foods. So if people are having certain reactions to foods, that's a predictive pattern from the brain and neural circuit.Yeah, it's really common that people end up getting afraid of foods or alcohol or whatever, because they may have a reaction. Let's say you're having a stressful day and you're eating broccoli. Well, your brain has just connected broccoli with a stress, or broccoli with the stomach pain that you have from the stress, but you happen to be eating broccoli.So now your brain is making that association, and then broccoli can easily become a conditioned response. So when you eat broccoli, your brain is turning on pain as a trigger. There's nothing to do with the broccoli itself, but then you think it does, so you avoid broccoli.And the more you avoid broccoli, the more afraid of broccoli you are. And then even smelling broccoli can start to cause some pain. And then that can spread.You say, oh, I'm allergic to broccoli. And then, you know, you get stomach pain, and then you blame it on wheat, or you blame it on dairy, or you blame it on, you know, meat. And then it just then that can just spiral.And I've seen a lot of people who are, have constricted their diet so much, they can only eat a couple foods. And it's really, it's just horrible. They're, you know, they're on what I call the fear food diet.Yeah, that's got to cause a lot of stress too, which just plays into that cycle.Yeah.What are the common, like, GI-related, gastrointestinal-related neural circuit issues? I know you've talked about IBS. Yeah, irritable bowel.That's the most common one. There's something like 20 million people who have this condition in the US anyway. I do.I mean, so many people have it. It's part of being human that our gut responds to our emotions. So you can get constipated, you can get diarrhea, you can get bloating, you can get stomach pain.Another condition they call is functional dyspepsia, which just means stomach pain for no reason. A lot of people suffer with GER, gastrointestinal gastroesophageal reflux. And a lot of people have the symptoms of reflux without actually having reflux when they're studied.But they call it that, and then they take medication, and sometimes the medication may work, but maybe the medication is working as a placebo, and the reflux isn't actually the problem. Reflux does exist. Some people certainly haven't.And so there's a variety of symptoms that occur in the abdomen. Of course, all the pelvic pain syndromes. Some people have pain in the pelvic area that have, again, go by a whole variety of names, such as pelvic floor dysfunction, ventral corralgia, interstitial cystitis, vulvodynia, coccidinia, all these names that basically mean you have pain, and we don't know why.Yeah.I had a graphic in your presentation that said the percentage of these conditions that are brain-induced, and most of them were 90% to 99% brain-induced, and that was irritable bowel, fibromyalgia, headaches, including migraines.Anxiety and depression.Anxiety and depression. That's interesting.Because anxiety and depression, you can have a medical condition causing anxiety like hyperthyroidism.Okay.But the vast majority of people with anxiety don't have medical conditions causing them. They have anxiety, again, produced by the brain, by neural circuits in the brain. Same with depression.Men with very low testosterone levels can be depressed as a medical condition. Not that common.Like 1% if it's...Yeah, exactly. Yeah, wow. And so, same with pelvic pain syndromes.With back pain, you know, it's funny because people would, when you think about it, you say, okay, neurologists know that almost all headaches are not medical conditions, in the sense that they're not due to some underlying structural problem, like some kind of need in the brain, tumor in the brain, vasculitis, ear disease, sinus disease, tooth disease, et cetera. But with back pain, it's the opposite that everyone thinks. Neurologists will say, yeah, almost all back pain is due to a structural problem.Well, that doesn't make any sense. It's how can 90, 95, let's say, percent of headaches be due to non-structural problems, and 95% of back pain be due to structural problems, chronic pain?Right.It really just doesn't make sense. And we've been studying that. And i…

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    Episode #64- Internal Pressure May 17, 2021
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    Chances are, if you have chronic pain or disease, you are also the type of person that puts a lot of pressure on yourself.

    We tend to put more pressure on ourselves than anyone else puts on us, and often we have a higher expectation of ourselves compared to others.

    Constantly feeling like we should be different, creates a state of internal pressure.

    I talk about the pressure we put on ourselves in 3 main categories: how we behave, how we feel, and pressure with time.

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    Episode #63- You Are Safe May 10, 2021
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    The number one way to rewire your brain when you have chronic pain or stress is to FEEL SAFE. Like in your body, at a somatic level. Especially if you can react to sensations neutrally, calmly, this signals your brain and nervous system to calm down so you can heal.

    In this episode I explain about the nervous system and why we might feel unsafe. Even if you aren't aware of conscious thoughts you have, you can use your body cues to realize times you are subconsciously not feeling safe.

    I also share several strategies to feel more safe, so you can start calming yourself when you notice pain, stress or symptoms.

    If you are in chronic fight or flight, listen up- this episode is for you!

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    Episode #62- This Is Just Like Before May 04, 2021
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    Our brains are always trying to make meaning. And when we have a new pain or flare up, I have noticed many of us tend to look at our past to make sense of it.

    The way we react to pain will make a difference in whether our pain is amplified or decreased. So if we react with fear and stress, this actually causes our brain to PRODUCE more pain.

    When we compare current symptoms to the pain, anxiety or depression we felt before, we can cause a fearful state. We basically freak ourselves out! Which causes more pain.

    Most of the time, pain is caused by past stressors (childhood or early adulthood), present stressors, perfectionism, or people pleasing (wanting to be seen as good). NOT by structural injuries as we have always been taught.

    Our past does not have to predict our future.

    You can look at these signs from your body as a warning signal or call to attention. What could you change in your thoughts or environment? Do you need to create some boundaries, give yourself rest, or change old thought patterns that are causing you mental stress? Pain is a danger signal, but it is our job to interpret what it is really saying.

    The main key when in pain, is to calm yourself. Decrease the nervous system from fight or flight to rest and repair so your body can heal. So be on to yourself if you catch yourself thinking- this is just like before!

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    Episode #61- Embodiment Apr 26, 2021
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    Embodiment is to become connected with ourselves, mentally, emotionally and physically.

    There are many reasons we become dissociated from our bodies- programming to ignore our body cues, to hate and even to fear our bodies.

    Usually we only pay attention to our bodies when there is pain or discomfort.

    When there is pain, being in the body is not comfortable. So the thought of focusing in on the body and the pain could seem counterintuitive.

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