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**Under the Scales**

Under the Scales is a podcast by Tom Marshall, longtime songwriter for the band Phish. The podcast captures and brings to light the rich and complex culture surrounding Phish and its diverse, devoted fanbase. Phish’s quirky sense of humor pervades and steers the podcast. Tom will interview the band, fans, insiders, outsiders…and dare to go UNDER THE SCALES to uncover the beating heart of Phish! Presented by Osiris Media.

Latest Episodes:

Trey Guitars Pt. 2 (re-release) Mar 25, 2026

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Trey Anastasio explains the magic of Paul Languedoc's guitars to me and Dan Kanter.

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Trey Guitars Pt. 1 (re-release) Mar 23, 2026

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Trey Anastasio shares years of guitar insights with me and Dan Kanter. Originally released in 2017.

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Tapers (re-release) Mar 19, 2026

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Co-hosts RJ and Jonathan and I take a DEEP DIVE into Tapers. Tapers are a huge part of Phish's history...but what are they? Who are they? Let's find out. Take a deep breath and jump in with us. Originally released in 2016.

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The Songwriting Weekend (re-release) Mar 17, 2026

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In 1997, Trey and I escaped for long weekends to write a lot of songs which eventually appeared on Phish albums and became part of Phish's live repertoire. This is the story of one of those weekends, and how it got off to a *horrifying* start. Trey listened to this and said "it's like the secret backstory for the song Twist" -- and it really is. Originally released in 2016.

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HF Pod Mt. Rushmore: Carini Jun 11, 2025

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Sharing an episode from our other podcast, the Helping Friendly Podcast, where the hosts discuss and choose their top 4 versions of Carini. Enjoy!

Thanks for joining us for our Carini Mt. Rushmore episode! Join us next week for our Summer 2025 Venue Draft.

RJ (official)

2/17/97

12/30/12

8/3/18

7/26/23

Brian

2/17/97

10/31/13

9/3/21

10/16/21

Megan

2/17/97

10/18/13

9/1/17

10/16/21

Please give us a call at (484) 416-0488 and leave us your thoughts and questions! And give us a review wherever you listen to podcasts.

The Helping Friendly Podcast is hosted and produced by Brian Brinkman, Megan Glionna, and RJ Bee. Original music by Amar Sastry. Brought to you by ⁠⁠⁠⁠Osiris Media⁠⁠⁠⁠.

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HF Pod Mt. Rushmore: Down With Disease Jun 09, 2025

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Here's an episode from our other podcast, the Helping Friendly Podcast, where the hosts choose their top 4 versions of Down With Disease. Enjoy!

Thanks for joining us to talk about our top versions of Down With Disease. Our picks are below. Enjoy!

Brian (official)

8/17/97

12/31/99

10/29/13

7/16/22

Megan

6/26/95

6/15/00

10/29/13

4/21/24

12/12/95

6/15/00

6/3/11

10/29/13

And vote on the 2001 Mt. Rushmore, which we'll be discussing in two weeks: ⁠⁠osirispod.com/rushmore⁠⁠

Please give us a call at (484) 416-0488 and leave us your thoughts and questions! And give us a review wherever you listen to podcasts.

The Helping Friendly Podcast is hosted and produced by Brian Brinkman, Megan Glionna, and RJ Bee. Original music by Amar Sastry. Brought to you by ⁠⁠Osiris Media⁠⁠.

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HF Pod: Do You Have to Be There to Get It? Jun 06, 2025

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Here's a fun one from our friends at HF Pod.

Today we have a brief conversation about live music fandom, and whether you need to be at the show to really "get it."

And vote on the Down With Disease Mt. Rushmore, which we'll be discussing next week: ⁠⁠osirispod.com/rushmore⁠⁠

Please give us a call at (484) 416-0488 and leave us your thoughts and questions! And give us a review wherever you listen to podcasts.

The Helping Friendly Podcast is hosted and produced by Brian Brinkman, Megan Glionna, and RJ Bee. Original music by Amar Sastry. Brought to you by ⁠⁠Osiris Media⁠⁠.

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HF Pod Mt. Rushmore: Harry Hood Jun 03, 2025

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Here's an episode from our friends at HF Pod, where they each choose the top 4 versions of Harry Hood. Enjoy!

We're ready to put the top 4 versions of Harry Hood on Mt. Rushmore! Thanks for joining us.

Next episode, we're doing Light. To vote for your top four versions, go here: ⁠OsirisPod.com/Rushmore⁠

Please give us a call at (484) 416-0488 and leave us your thoughts and questions! And give us a review wherever you listen to podcasts.

The Helping Friendly Podcast is hosted and produced by Brian Brinkman, Megan Glionna, and RJ Bee. Original music by Amar Sastry. Brought to you by ⁠Osiris Media⁠.

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HF Pod Mt. Rushmore: Bathtub Gin Mar 10, 2025

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Sharing an episode of our longest-running Phish podcast, HF Pod. Here's the first episode of a fun new series, Mt. Rushmore.

Welcome to the first episode of our new series, Mt. Rushmore! Today we're talking about the four versions of Bathtub Gin that belong on that mountain. Thanks for listening!

Next week we're tackling Harry Hood. To vote for your top four versions, go here: OsirisPod.com/Rushmore

Please give us a call at (484) 416-0488 and leave us your thoughts and questions! And give us a review wherever you listen to podcasts.

The Helping Friendly Podcast is hosted and produced by Brian Brinkman, Megan Glionna, and RJ Bee. Original music by Amar Sastry. Brought to you by Osiris Media.

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HF Pod Tweezer Draft Mar 06, 2025

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We wanted to bring you a couple episodes from our longest-running Phish podcast, the Helping Friendly Podcast. We thought you'd enjoy some of these draft episodes. Thank you.

That's right folks, we brought the draft back and we brought it back real serious like. We're drafting Tweezers.

Please give us a call at (484) 416-0488 and leave us your thoughts and questions! And give us a review wherever you listen to podcasts.

The Helping Friendly Podcast is hosted and produced by Brian Brinkman, Megan Glionna, Jonathan Hart, and RJ Bee. Brought to you by Osiris Media.

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