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    Unchained

    Crypto assets and blockchain technology are about to transform every trust-based interaction of our lives, from financial services to identity to the Internet of Things. In this podcast, host Laura Shin, an independent journalist covering all things crypto, talks with industry pioneers about how crypto assets and blockchains will change the way we earn, spend and invest our money. Tune in to find out how Web 3.0, the decentralized web, will revolutionize our world.

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    How Much Prison Time Is FTX's Sam Bankman-Fried Facing? - Ep. 432 Dec 16, 2022
    Show notes

    Ari Redbord, head of legal and government affairs at TRM Labs, discusses all the charges that Sam Bankman-Fried is facing and their potential outcomes.


    Show highlights:

    • the charges against SBF and why the criminal indictment is the most important
    • whether SBF testifying in Congress would have complicated the DOJ's criminal case against him
    • why it is complicated to state how much prison time Sam is facing
    • the ways in which Bankman-Fried can reduce his sentence by cooperating with authorities
    • why it's so unprecedented that the indictment came only one month after the collapse of FTX
    • whether other senior FTX executives are providing prosecutors with information to reduce their charges
    • the reasons why SBF is being held in The Bahamas and the likelihood of him being extradited
    • how much the case will be delayed if SBF's lawyers fight the extradition
    • Ari's thoughts on whether this case will go to trial


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    Guest

    Ari:

    • Twitter
    • Previous appearances on Unchained:
    • Is TRM Labs Blocking Addresses From DeFi Protocols? Ari Redbord Says No



    Episode Links


    • Unchained:
    • CFTC and SEC File Damning Complaints Against Sam Bankman-Fried and FTX
    • SBF Denied Bail in The Bahamas, Will Remain in Fox Hill Prison
    • Former FTX CEO Sam Bankman-Fried Arrested Amid US Indictment
    • Bahamas Asked SBF to Mint Hundreds of Millions of Dollars’ Worth of New Tokens After Collapse, Say FTX Liquidators
    • SBF Directed $8B Alameda Liabilities to an FTX Account He Called ‘Weird Korean,’ Says CFTC
    • Bloomberg:
    • FTX Bankruptcy Standoff Heats Up as Bahamas Challenges US Case
    • Sam Bankman-Fried’s Harsh Bahamas Jail Could Shift His Stance on Extradition
    • Fortune: Sam Bankman-Fried indicted on multiple conspiracy and fraud charges by U.S. officials
    • The Enron Trial: A Chronology


    • Previous coverage of Unchained on Sam Bankman-Fried and FTX:
    • Why the Legal Process for FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried Could Take Years
    • The Chopping Block: SBF Wants to Win in the Court of Public Opinion. Will He?
    • Jesse Powell and Kevin Zhou on How FTX and Alameda Lost $10 Billion
    • Is the Collapse of Crypto Lending Over, or Is It Just Starting?
    • Did the Bahamian Government Direct SBF and Gary Wang to Hack FTX?
    • The Chopping Block: Why Lenders Didn’t Liquidate Alameda When It Was Underwater
    • Erik Voorhees and Cobie on Why FTX Loaned Out Customers’ Assets
    • The Chopping Block: FTX: The Biggest Collapse in the History of Crypto?
    • Sam Bankman-Fried on How to Prevent the Next Terra and 3AC

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    How Will the FTX Collapse Affect Silvergate? A Bear and a Bull Debate - Ep. 431 Dec 13, 2022
    Show notes

    Ram Ahluwalia, CEO and cofounder of crypto-native investment advisor Lumida, and Marc Cohodes, individual investor and former hedge fund manager, have a heated debate about Silvergate, a crypto-friendly bank that plays a key role in integrating crypto with traditional finance and is currently under scrutiny due to its ties with FTX and Alameda. Both Marc and Ram have a vested interest in Silvergate. Marc is shorting the stock, while Ram is longing it.

    Show highlights:

    • why Silvergate plays such a vital role in the movement of money within the crypto industry
    • whether Silvergate runs proper KYC and AML practices
    • whether Silvergate has a $1 billion hole in its balance sheet
    • whether regulators will go after Silvergate as they are doing with FTX
    • why Marc thinks the FTX collapse wouldn't have happened without Silvergate
    • whether Silvergate was complicit with FTX’s activities or simply negligent
    • why Ram believes this case is different from JPMorgan's involvement with Madoff
    • what regulatory actions might come in the near future for Silvergate
    • why Ram thinks regulators will go to "great lengths" to avoid a bank failure
    • what would it take for Ram and Marc to change their minds

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    Guests:

    Ram:

    • Twitter
    • Ram’s thread on Silvergate
    • Ram’s previous appearances on Unchained:
    • Genesis May Be Facing Bankruptcy. Could It Take DCG Down With It?
    • Why Genesis Could Very Well Be Insolvent, Not Just Illiquid

    Marc:

    • Twitter

    Episode links:

    • Class action lawsuit against Silvergate
    • The Block:Silvergate CEO seeks to reassure investors over crypto contagion
    • Letter from Senators Elizabeth Warren, John Kennedy, and Roger Marshall
    • The Guardian:JP Morgan Chase to pay more than $2bn in penalties for Madoff ties
    • The Financial Times:Silvergate: from tiny local lender to bank behind the crypto boom
    • WSJ:Crypto Is Taking a Few Small Banks on a Wild Ride
    • Bloomberg:
    • These Banks Were Left Holding the Bag in Crypto Implosion
    • An Obscure Bank Found Its Key to Success. Then FTX Collapsed
    • CoinDesk: Crypto Bank Silvergate Says Its BlockFi Digital-Asset Deposit Exposure Totals Less Than $20M
    • New York Post: Crypto ‘smart’ money? Big traders fell for Sam Bankman-Fried
    • NBC: Sen. Warren demands answers from Silvergate Bank about its business dealings with FTX
    • Dylan LeClair’s Twitter thread

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    Why the Legal Process for FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried Could Take Years - Ep. 430 Dec 09, 2022
    Show notes

    TuongVy Le, partner and head of regulatory & policy at Bain Capital Crypto, discusses how the legal process for Sam Bankman-Fried in the wake of the FTX scandal could play out.


    Show highlights:

    • the allegations that Bankman-Fried manipulated the market during the Terra crash
    • the motivations for Bankman-Fried's media appearances
    • what the selection of Mark Cohen as a lawyer says about the potential charges and the case
    • why SBF hasn't been arrested yet
    • how the US investigating the potential involvement of Bahamian government officials could complicate cooperation of an arrest of SBF in the Bahamas
    • why this case is very different from Bernie Madoff's
    • what evidence would be needed to say, legally, that SBF committed fraud
    • the potential outcomes of the legal case for SBF and how many years of prison time he could face



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    TuongVy :

    • Twitter



    Episode Links


    FTX:

    • Unchained:
    • Regulators Investigate Sam Bankman-Fried for Terra-Related Market Manipulation
    • Sam Bankman-Fried Hires Ghislaine Maxwell’s Defense Lawyer: Report


    Investigations:

    • Reuters: U.S. authorities probe FTX collapse, executives' involvement -sources
    • CoinDesk: California Financial Regulator Announces FTX Investigation


    Others:

    • CNBC: Former OpenSea employee charged in first-ever NFT insider trading case
    • NYT:
    • Ex-Coinbase Employee and 2 Others Charged With Insider Trading of Crypto Assets
    • Two former Deutsche Bank traders win their appeal in a Libor manipulation case



    • Previous coverage of Unchained on FTX:
    • The Chopping Block: SBF Wants to Win in the Court of Public Opinion. Will He?
    • Jesse Powell and Kevin Zhou on How FTX and Alameda Lost $10 Billion
    • Is the Collapse of Crypto Lending Over, or Is It Just Starting?
    • Did the Bahamian Government Direct SBF and Gary Wang to Hack FTX?
    • The Chopping Block: Why Lenders Didn’t Liquidate Alameda When It Was Underwater
    • Erik Voorhees and Cobie on Why FTX Loaned Out Customers’ Assets
    • The Chopping Block: FTX: The Biggest Collapse in the History of Crypto?
    • Sam Bankman-Fried on How to Prevent the Next Terra and 3AC

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    ​​Genesis May Be Facing Bankruptcy. Could It Take DCG Down With It? - Ep. 429 Dec 06, 2022
    Show notes

    Ram Ahluwalia, CEO and co-founder of crypto-native investment advisor Lumida, and Samuel Andrew, crypto author and analyst, talk about the financial situation at Genesis and parent company Digital Currency Group (DCG). The collapse of FTX has dealt crypto lender Genesis another major blow, with the firm halting withdrawals and DCG stepping in to help. Now the two face a range of suboptimal outcomes in the face of massive debts. Ahluwalia and Andrew discuss what could come next, and what should be learned from the recent debacles.

    Show highlights:

    • why Genesis and DCG are so important for the crypto sector
    • Ram's explanation of the "Grayscale trade" and why it is relevant to understand the current crisis
    • the ghost of Three Arrows Capital and the origins of Genesis' problems
    • why Sam thinks Genesis was "reckless" in its loan underwriting
    • what a spot Bitcoin ETF would mean for Grayscale's revenue
    • what options Genesis and DCG have to weather the storm
    • whether it makes sense for Genesis to file for bankruptcy
    • why Ram thinks Genesis lending product needs to be be shut down
    • why Gemini and its Earn program loom large in the Genesis situation
    • the risks of enforcement action from regulators
    • what the most likely outcome is for Genesis and DCG and whether creditors will be made whole
    • whether there will be broader contagion stemming from Genesis and what other crypto companies could be in trouble
    • the problems of leverage and why crypto's "shadow banks" need regulation

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    Ram:

    • Twitter
    • Ram’s thread on GBTC
    • Previous Unchained episodes:
    • Why Genesis Could Very Well Be Insolvent, Not Just Illiquid

    Sam:

    • Twitter
    • Substack

    Episode Links

    Genesis:

    • Unchained:
    • Genesis Warns of Bankruptcy If Funding Plans Fail: Report
    • On-chain Analysts ID 432 GBTC Addresses After Grayscale Says No to Proof-of-Reserves
    • WSJ: Crypto Lender Genesis Asks Binance and Apollo for Cash
    • Decrypt: Digital Currency Group Says No Imminent Threat Despite Owing Genesis $575M
    • The Block: DCG CEO Barry Silbert updates shareholders, says company will emerge 'stronger'
    • Previous coverage of Unchained on Genesis:
    • ‘The Last Big Whale’: Why the Crypto Contagion of 2022 Eventually Hit Genesis
    • Adam Cochran on Why Crypto Prices Will Be Down Bad for the Next Six Months
    • Is the Collapse of Crypto Lending Over, or Is It Just Starting?
    • The Chopping Block: SBF Wants to Win in the Court of Public Opinion. Will He?

    FT: Crypto broker Genesis owes Winklevoss exchange’s customers $900mn

    WSJ: Rising Tether Loans Add Risk to Stablecoin, Crypto World

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    The Chopping Block: SBF Wants to Win in the Court of Public Opinion. Will He? - Ep. 428 Dec 03, 2022
    Show notes

    Welcome to The Chopping Block! Crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Robert Leshner, Tom Schmidt, and Tarun Chitra chop it up about the latest news.


    Show topics:


    • highlights of Sam Bankman-Fried's interview with the New York Times
    • whether SBF knew what was going on in his companies, and how that impacts potential prosecution
    • why Genesis and DCG are in financial trouble
    • whether Genesis will file for bankruptcy or go through a restructuring process
    • revelations from BlockFi's bankruptcy filing
    • new info on why FTX bailed out BlockFi last summer
    • what is going on with Binance’s recovery fund
    • how Avi Eisenberg tried to pull off an attack on Aave
    • how the banking industry works and whether Changpeng Zhao is the closest thing to a central bank in crypto
    • how DeFi responds in a crisis, and how it contrasts with CeFi’s recent implosions



    Hosts

    • Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Capital
    • Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures
    • Robert Leshner, founder of Compound
    • Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly Capital


    Episode Links


    FTX:

    • Unchained: FTX Bankruptcy Overseer Says Company’s Collapse Is Worst He’s Ever Seen
    • NYT: Sam Bankman-Fried’s interview
    • Bill Ackman’s tweet
    • Interview with Tiffany Fong
    • Previous coverage of Unchained on FTX:
    • Jesse Powell and Kevin Zhou on How FTX and Alameda Lost $10 Billion
    • Is the Collapse of Crypto Lending Over, or Is It Just Starting?
    • Did the Bahamian Government Direct SBF and Gary Wang to Hack FTX?
    • The Chopping Block: Why Lenders Didn’t Liquidate Alameda When It Was Underwater
    • Erik Voorhees and Cobie on Why FTX Loaned Out Customers’ Assets
    • The Chopping Block: FTX: The Biggest Collapse in the History of Crypto?
    • Sam Bankman-Fried on How to Prevent the Next Terra and 3AC



    BlockFi:

    • Unchained: Crypto Lender BlockFi Files for Bankruptcy as FTX’s Contagion Effects Continue
    • Decrypt: FTX, Alameda Owe BlockFi More Than $1 Billion: Court Hearing



    Genesis:

    • Ryan Selkis’ tweet on Genesis
    • Unchained:
    • Genesis Warns of Bankruptcy If Funding Plans Fail: Report
    • On-chain Analysts ID 432 GBTC Addresses After Grayscale Says No to Proof-of-Reserves
    • WSJ: Crypto Lender Genesis Asks Binance and Apollo for Cash
    • Decrypt: Digital Currency Group Says No Imminent Threat Despite Owing Genesis $575M
    • Previous coverage of Unchained on Genesis:
    • Why Genesis Could Very Well Be Insolvent, Not Just Illiquid
    • ‘The Last Big Whale’: Why the Crypto Contagion of 2022 Eventually Hit Genesis


    DeFi

    • Pancakeswap flipped Uniswap in TVL
    • Unchained:
    • Mango Markets Exploiter Gets Liquidated But Leaves Aave With ‘Excess Debt’
    • Aave Freezes 17 Low-Liquidity V2 Pools and Votes to Migrate 26 Assets to Ethereum V3
    • Compound Finance Slashes Borrow Caps for 10 Markets


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    Adam Cochran on Why Crypto Prices Will Be Down Bad for the Next Six Months - Ep. 427 Dec 02, 2022
    Show notes

    Adam Cochran, partner at Cinneamhain Ventures, talks about the collapses suffered during this year, their impacts on big traditional finance players, and what’s coming in the crypto markets in the near future.


    Show highlights:

    • whether Sam Bankman-Fried lied during his interview at the Deal Book Summit
    • why SBF kept the number of FTX's engineers at such a low number
    • why Adam is optimistic about Genesis and DCG
    • what options Genesis have to raise liquidity
    • the significance of a potential meltdown of DCG in the crypto industry
    • why Adam is worried about Grayscale Bitcoin Trust (GBTC)
    • what lessons can be learned from this crypto winter
    • Adam's prognosis for crypto lending and for the crypto markets in general
    • the impact of the bankruptcy of BlockFi and all the other centralized lenders


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    Adam:

    • Twitter
    • Thread on community buyout
    • Previous Unchained episodes:
    • Why 3AC’s Collapse Could Spell the Start of a Crypto Credit Crunch



    Episode Links



    BlockFi:

    • Unchained: Crypto Lender BlockFi Files for Bankruptcy as FTX’s Contagion Effects Continue
    • Decrypt: FTX, Alameda Owe BlockFi More Than $1 Billion: Court Hearing



    Genesis:

    • Bloomberg: Genesis Creditors Seek Options to Keep Crypto Brokerage Out of Bankruptcy
    • Semafor: Online news site CoinDesk attracts suitors amid crypto crash
    • Unchained:
    • Genesis Warns of Bankruptcy If Funding Plans Fail: Report
    • On-chain Analysts ID 432 GBTC Addresses After Grayscale Says No to Proof-of-Reserves
    • WSJ: Crypto Lender Genesis Asks Binance and Apollo for Cash
    • Decrypt: Digital Currency Group Says No Imminent Threat Despite Owing Genesis $575M
    • The Block: DCG CEO Barry Silbert updates shareholders, says company will emerge 'stronger'
    • Previous coverage of Unchained on Genesis:
    • Why Genesis Could Very Well Be Insolvent, Not Just Illiquid
    • ‘The Last Big Whale’: Why the Crypto Contagion of 2022 Eventually Hit Genesis


    FTX:

    • Unchained: FTX Bankruptcy Overseer Says Company’s Collapse Is Worst He’s Ever Seen


    • Previous coverage of Unchained on FTX:
    • Jesse Powell and Kevin Zhou on How FTX and Alameda Lost $10 Billion
    • Is the Collapse of Crypto Lending Over, or Is It Just Starting?
    • Did the Bahamian Government Direct SBF and Gary Wang to Hack FTX?
    • The Chopping Block: Why Lenders Didn’t Liquidate Alameda When It Was Underwater
    • Erik Voorhees and Cobie on Why FTX Loaned Out Customers’ Assets
    • The Chopping Block: FTX: The Biggest Collapse in the History of Crypto?
    • Sam Bankman-Fried on How to Prevent the Next Terra and 3AC


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    'The Last Big Whale': Why the Crypto Contagion of 2022 Eventually Hit Genesis - Ep. 426 Nov 29, 2022
    Show notes

    Michael Jordan, founder at DBA and former co-head of investments at Galaxy Digital, and Alex Pack, managing partner at Hack VC, talk about the potential insolvency of Genesis and DCG, the cycle of credit expansion, and the importance of DeFi to prevent these situations.

    Show highlights:

    • what will happen with Genesis and its parent company DCG
    • where the insolvency of Genesis might have come from
    • how the expansion of crypto lending in 2021 is impacting the markets and the role the Fed played in this expansion
    • how the Terra collapse kickstarted a ton of contagion effects in crypto companies
    • Alex's story of why he did not invest in Alameda in 2018
    • whether it is possible to prevent the "FTXs of the future"
    • the importance of assessing the quality of collateral assets
    • the story of when SBF called DeFi a "Ponzi black box"
    • the mystery of where FTX Ventures got the $2 billion it planned to invest

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    Michael:

    • Twitter
    • Previous Unchained episodes:
    • Is the Collapse of Crypto Lending Over, or Is It Just Starting?

    Alex:

    • Twitter

    Episode Links

    Previous coverage of Unchained on Genesis and FTX:

    • Why Genesis Could Very Well Be Insolvent, Not Just Illiquid
    • Jesse Powell and Kevin Zhou on How FTX and Alameda Lost $10 Billion
    • Is the Collapse of Crypto Lending Over, or Is It Just Starting?
    • Did the Bahamian Government Direct SBF and Gary Wang to Hack FTX?
    • The Chopping Block: Why Lenders Didn’t Liquidate Alameda When It Was Underwater
    • Erik Voorhees and Cobie on Why FTX Loaned Out Customers’ Assets
    • The Chopping Block: FTX: The Biggest Collapse in the History of Crypto?
    • Sam Bankman-Fried on How to Prevent the Next Terra and 3AC

    Genesis:

    • Unchained:
    • Genesis Warns of Bankruptcy If Funding Plans Fail: Report
    • On-chain Analysts ID 432 GBTC Addresses After Grayscale Says No to Proof-of-Reserves
    • WSJ: Crypto Lender Genesis Asks Binance and Apollo for Cash
    • Decrypt: Digital Currency Group Says No Imminent Threat Despite Owing Genesis $575M
    • The Block: DCG CEO Barry Silbert updates shareholders, says company will emerge 'stronger'

    FTX Collapse:

    • First declaration document
    • Unchained: FTX Bankruptcy Overseer Says Company’s Collapse Is Worst He’s Ever Seen
    • SBF tweet: FTX files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection
    • Bloomberg: Transcript: Sam Bankman-Fried and Matt Levine on How to Make Money in Crypto

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    Gabriel Haines on How He Came to Make His Hilarious, Yelling Crypto Videos - Ep. 425 Nov 25, 2022
    Show notes

    Gabriel Haines, a crypto content creator, comes on this 2022 Thanksgiving edition of Unchained to talk about his videos and leave a positive message for these holidays.


    Show highlights:

    • how Gabriel started doing his very unique type of videos
    • Gabriel's hummus eating competition
    • how Gabriel's videos are "quite not professional"
    • how Gabriel is monetizing some of his videos with NFTs
    • whether NFTs are a solution for content creators
    • how Lee, Gabriel's wife, has also started creating some funny videos
    • how Web3 is going to change the traditional version of media in the Internet

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    Gabriel:

    • Twitter
    • Gabriel’s video with a machete

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    The Chopping Block on FTX/Alameda: Is Sam Bankman-Fried 'Crypto Kanye'? - Ep. 424 Nov 22, 2022
    Show notes

    Welcome to The Chopping Block! Crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Robert Leshner, Tom Schmidt, and Tarun Chitra chop it up about the latest news concerning the collapse of FTX.


    Show topics:


    • the statements of newly appointed CEO John Ray in the first day declaration
    • why Tarun, Robert and Haseeb think SBF is possibly delusional or at least in denial
    • whether the assets of FTX and Alameda were commingled from the beginning or whether they had been separate and at a certain point, FTX loaned money to Alameda
    • whether the Bahamian government was the 'FTX' hacker
    • the theories of why Alameda started falling
    • how regulators and legislators are assessing the failure of FTX
    • whether SBF will get a pardon like Mark Rich and the chances of him being charged criminally
    • whether Genesis will go insolvent and its potential contagion effects


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    Hosts

    • Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Capital
    • Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures
    • Robert Leshner, founder of Compound
    • Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly Capital


    Episode Links


    Previous coverage of Unchained on FTX:


    • Jesse Powell and Kevin Zhou on How FTX and Alameda Lost $10 Billion
    • Is the Collapse of Crypto Lending Over, or Is It Just Starting?
    • Did the Bahamian Government Direct SBF and Gary Wang to Hack FTX?
    • The Chopping Block: Why Lenders Didn’t Liquidate Alameda When It Was Underwater
    • Erik Voorhees and Cobie on Why FTX Loaned Out Customers’ Assets
    • The Chopping Block: FTX: The Biggest Collapse in the History of Crypto?
    • Sam Bankman-Fried on How to Prevent the Next Terra and 3AC


    FTX Collapse:

    • First declaration document
    • Unchained: FTX Bankruptcy Overseer Says Company’s Collapse Is Worst He’s Ever Seen
    • Unchained: Bahamas Regulator Directed SBF to Transfer FTX Assets to Government Wallet
    • SBF tweet: FTX files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection
    • WSJ: FTX’s Sam Bankman-Fried Cashed Out $300 Million During Funding Spree
    • Vox interview with SBF: Sam Bankman-Fried tries to explain himself
    • NYT: How Sam Bankman-Fried’s Crypto Empire Collapsed
    • Arthur Hayes’s article on SBF: ‘White Boy’


    NYT: Elizabeth Holmes Is Sentenced to More Than 11 Years for Fraud

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    Jesse Powell and Kevin Zhou on How FTX and Alameda Lost $10 Billion - Ep. 423 Nov 21, 2022
    Show notes

    Kevin Zhou, cofounder of Galois Capital, and Jesse Powell, cofounder of Kraken, talk about why FTX collapsed, the warning signs, and whether it’s a catalyst for self-custodial adoption.


    Show highlights:

    • the root causes of the FTX collapse, according to Jesse and Kevin
    • whether there were warning signs of all the risks that were to come
    • the importance of learning from mistakes, even for new people in the space
    • Kevin's response to the stuck funds in FTX
    • the debate about utilitarianism and SBF's effective altruism
    • whether the philosophy behind founders matters
    • Kevin's and Jesse's theories of how FTX and Alameda lost billions of dollars
    • how Alameda and FTX's books were commingled
    • whether people will start using self-custodial wallets
    • whether the fall of FTX vindicates BTC maximalism
    • whether regulation has been beneficial or harmful for American customers
    • the role of venture capital firms and their "mixed incentives"



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    Kevin:

    • Twitter
    • Previous Unchained episodes:
    • How Traders Are Thinking About the Merge — and a Potential ETHPoW Chain
    • Why Kevin Zhou Believes Ethereum Will Have 3 Forks After the Merge.
    • The Chopping Block: Kevin Zhou on Why He Knew Terra Would Crash


    Jesse:

    • Twitter
    • Previous Unchained episodes:
    • Jesse Powell, CEO of Kraken, on Drawing a Line With Regulators


    Episode Links

    Previous coverage on Unchained of FTX:

    • Did the Bahamian Government Direct SBF and Gary Wang to Hack FTX? – Ep. 422
    • The Chopping Block: Why Lenders Didn’t Liquidate Alameda When It Was Underwater
    • Erik Voorhees and Cobie on Why FTX Loaned Out Customers’ Assets
    • The Chopping Block: FTX: The Biggest Collapse in the History of Crypto?
    • Sam Bankman-Fried on How to Prevent the Next Terra and 3AC


    FTX Collapse:

    • First declaration document
    • Unchained: FTX Bankruptcy Overseer Says Company’s Collapse Is Worst He’s Ever Seen
    • Unchained: Bahamas Regulator Directed SBF to Transfer FTX Assets to Government Wallet
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